I must say this is the best 15 second video I ever saw.

@TFHDeathUA33

11 ай бұрын

Ok, My wife. That was longer than 15 seconds.

@frankvanaalten7

10 ай бұрын

The ad i got was 20 sec 💀

@matsv201

10 ай бұрын

Well.. its actually the 4.5V system... ohh.. aa best. Not worse

@JackCoyle-cd8gz

Ай бұрын

And most informational

I was in my local used LEGO store recently and saw a 12v power system that had been modified by a previous owner to have an American style plug in. Crazy the lengths folks will go to in order to use that system! 😱 (We didn't plug it in to test it - it honestly looked pretty sketchy, haha)

@BatteryPoweredBricks

11 ай бұрын

Ha! I've modified the 9v train controllers to supply 12v (mostly for pneumatic compressors) but I really want a 12v train motor to test it out 😁. Tell them to send it to me, after working on Pinball machines and arcade monitors no amount of sketch will scare me 😂. Also thanks for allowing the use of your song in this, it's really easy to loop cleanly 😁. Some songs are a real pain!

@RRSlugger

11 ай бұрын

@@BatteryPoweredBricks Of course! This video is great - love the humour and presentation! I'll admit that motor functions in LEGO aren't really the most interesting aspect of the hobby to me, but you present it well; it's really cool seeing the pros and cons of each train system here! I'll be sure to share this one around. 😊

@BatteryPoweredBricks

11 ай бұрын

Thanks! I even snuck in a prequel meme... twice 😅

@RRSlugger

11 ай бұрын

@@BatteryPoweredBricks This is getting out of hand - Now there are two of them!

@BatteryPoweredBricks

11 ай бұрын

We should not have made this bargain!

Trains are a pathway to many abilities that some consider to be unnatural

@BatteryPoweredBricks

11 ай бұрын

Is it possible to learn this power?

@alastair810

10 ай бұрын

​@@BatteryPoweredBricks not from a Jedi.

It’s just a shame that Lego doesn’t sell steam locomotives anymore.

@CookieChook

10 ай бұрын

They’re releasing one later this year, Lego Ideas Orient Express

@levidarling5107

10 ай бұрын

@@CookieChook Sweet, I hope they sell real life based ones like big boy though.

@classicallpvault8251

10 ай бұрын

No it's not, because LEGO's own train models are atrocious. It's companies like BlueBrixx and COBI which show how brick trains are supposed to be built, especially if you zoom in at the 8 wide models only because they're vastly superior in terms of scale and detail level. LEGO produces children's toys while BlueBrixx' enormous offering of trains rivals the catalogs of companies like Märklin. Even LEGO's massive display model of the Hogwarts Express isn;t very good when compared with the absolute work of art that the COBI BR 52 is. Wich actually runs out of the box on larger radius tracks and can be converted to run on R56 curves without sacrificing the aesthetics.

@levidarling5107

10 ай бұрын

@@classicallpvault8251 man, talk about lack of effort and laziness am I right?

@oleurgast730

10 ай бұрын

@@classicallpvault8251 Actually, while you are mostly right about that, do not forget LEGO 10194 Emerald Night. In my opinion thats realy a nice steam train - the best lego ever made. Of course it costs a fortune...

I grew up with 9Volt. A buddy of mine had the older 12Volt system with the middle contact and all these fancy accessories. But it always had contact issues while we played with it as kids. So we played mine very very often, made crashed, handled it pretty rough. But it withstands and I still have it. Only one cable broke, and was available for cheap. Now I have a son, he is 7 years old, and he still can play with it.

The Duplo control system is one of my favourites.

Not to forget, the 9V controller can control ANYTHING you connect to it. I have seen those controlling motors on Great Ball Contraption Models and it worked extremely good because they could control the speed of the motors like they want and even let them run backwards when necessary.

@BatteryPoweredBricks

9 ай бұрын

For sure! I have a playlist of videos on the 9v train speed regulator and mods 😅

This was great! I do appreciate you going into the pros and cons of each system and not actually just saying 9v is the best byeeeee (though that was a hilarious bit). When I was really getting into making train MOCs, I had decide what system to invest in and I chose PU since it was still available and not super costly like 9v. Really have enjoyed your videos recently and this one was a great one with lots of information and humor. Looking forward to more from you!

@BatteryPoweredBricks

11 ай бұрын

Thanks so much! This video was a ton of work, and left me a bit burned out by the end of it 😅. I want to try to make an in-depth scripted video like this every month or so, I think that's the most I could commit to 😁

The only problem I have with powered up is that it drains the batteries very quickly. However, I like how it can be used in a wide variety of different locomotives. I mainly use 8-wide locomotives instead of the 6-wide Lego models because 8-wide allows me to better proportion my locomotives with minifigures.

@BatteryPoweredBricks

11 ай бұрын

I've definitely heard that complaint, I typically need enough battery just to make a video so they work well for me. There are DIY rechargeable solutions and the pricey Key Brick option. For anyone looking for long running sessions powered rails seems to be the way to go. Hopefully Fx Bricks can help with that 🙏

@welbhloud

8 ай бұрын

I recently found a temporary solution. See I work on a ferry and we just had to change all 200 lifevest lights because they expired. However they were never used and While playing with it I found out they contain just two simple varta professional AAA batteries.... So now I am riding through a shoebox with 400 free aaa batteries

@SouRwy4501Productions

7 ай бұрын

If I could, I would rebuild all of my existing Lego trains with Soundtraxx BluNami Bluetooth dcc

I had a 12v system, and I remember that the 9v system was driving way smoother, the 12v drag contacts had its downsides for sure. But I also remember I had a powered switch and various lights I missed in the 9v system. I was soldering bycicle lamps to my 9v trains for cheap interior lights. (When I was 8 years old) Inmy opinion, they should have kept powered rails, and have optional custom wired or wireless controll, but keep the powersource the rail. It blew my mind when I first heared you needed batteries for all new lego trains, enormous downgrade, plus the track looks ugly, no metal look.

@BatteryPoweredBricks

10 ай бұрын

Yeah the metal on the 9v really does look good (as long as they aren't corroded 😅). Plastic rails just don't have that

The 12v system was the best: hands down. I spenf all my childhood playing with those trains. Some of them are now 40 years old and they are still running.

@BatteryPoweredBricks

Ай бұрын

It was certainly an amazing system. Since this video I've been stocking up on 12v parts for a simple layout, but I still need a motor and train 😅. I do have a decent bit of track and a couple power transformers

I really enjoyed this video. Great mix of your expertise + research + passion for a very specific topic. I am subscribed going forward.

@BatteryPoweredBricks

9 ай бұрын

Thanks! Welcome aboard 😁

Great video and great round up of creators to watch as well!

@BatteryPoweredBricks

11 ай бұрын

Thanks! Definitely couldn't have done this alone!

This is so darn cool, I loved learning so much about each system, which was interesting as Power Functions is all I've ever known! Your presentation is wonderful as well, video is so chill and interspersed with little fun moments, so much work must have been put into all the footage and editing

@BatteryPoweredBricks

9 ай бұрын

Thanks! I really wish I could pour this much time and effort into every video but it would have to be a full time thing at that point 😅. Luckily I had about a year and a half of previous videos I could pull clips from as well as the footage from other channels. Still it took about a month to produce / edit after I really got started, all while working on other videos to keep up with my schedule 😅

@LarrysLego

9 ай бұрын

@@BatteryPoweredBricks Gosh yeah it sure looks like it! Completely understandable that this is far too much effort to produce over and over again, but as a feat it is admirable :)

First time to this channel... gutta admit, very informative. And you killed me when you went back for those batteries!!! Awesome!!

@BatteryPoweredBricks

10 ай бұрын

Thanks! This was a fun video to make, but WAY more work than I can put into EVERY video. It's definitely brought a lot of new folks in. It's always fun to add a bit of humor as well 😁

Great video references... A keeper!❤

Good overview of the systems. There are also a few DIY solutions, like rewiring 9V motors to use Power Functions Controls with them, which IMO is the best (unfortunately not off the shelf) solution. I'm seriously looking forward to FXtracks 9V switches in autumn and eventually their motors. All of that said, I really need to look into the Powered UP Pybricks script you mentioned, that allows disabling the watchdog.

@BatteryPoweredBricks

11 ай бұрын

Idk what it is but your comments keep getting held for review 🤷‍♂️. At least it keeps me in the habit of checking. The power pickup bogies from FX Bricks look intriguing as well!

Amazing video - thank you for going to such lengths to bring us an overview! I myself am a 9V fan, but just recently bought my first 12V set and systems - I have a lot to learn!!

@BatteryPoweredBricks

5 ай бұрын

Thanks! I can't wait to take the 12v plunge, one of these days 😁

@DiscoverWithBricks

5 ай бұрын

I'm subscribed so I'll keep en eye out! I'll be documenting my journey just as well - there's just not enough content out there about them!@@BatteryPoweredBricks

This was very exciting! Thanx!

@BatteryPoweredBricks

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Straight slammed the like and watching the whole thing because of that intro! Goated!

@BatteryPoweredBricks

4 ай бұрын

I don't think I will ever be able to top it 😅

This was a really great video, thank you for making it :) learned loads!

@BatteryPoweredBricks

Күн бұрын

Thanks! I doubt I'll ever top this video 😅

Very useful video - thanks!

@BatteryPoweredBricks

11 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

A very good overview, thanks.

LOL, the intro was great! Great video and overview of the control systems. I like 9V, but I find my self going back to Power Function system. But I have realized that ultimately the future will be Powered Up, at least for me. I have not gotten into the 3rd party systems yet, and the only thing that will probably get me there will be a 9V system with a remote i.e. a DCCS style system. Glad the Trash bag was clean. LOL PS I love FX Bricks 9v Track, and Brick Tracks RC track.

@BatteryPoweredBricks

11 ай бұрын

Thanks! The real trick is knowing the best system for a given situation. Hopefully this video can help people make that determination. It took me quite a while to learn all the ins and outs 😅

after I get the flood mess cleaned up, ill get back into the videos and trains , this gave me some insight into get my butt going again. also I like all the version of control so far, they all has +/- as you have said buddy.

@BatteryPoweredBricks

9 ай бұрын

oh man hate to hear that. Just after I moved to a new place I had issues with water but it was never more than an inch or so. Hope you get things sorted soon!

Thank you very much for this video. So much valuable information.

@BatteryPoweredBricks

5 ай бұрын

No worries, this was one of my favorite videos to make

@BaziaStudio

5 ай бұрын

There is passion and there is power!@@BatteryPoweredBricks

I was pleasantly surprised of how well was this video constructed. Also jokes were great. Keep it up!

@BatteryPoweredBricks

9 ай бұрын

Thanks! Hoping to do more scripted videos like this in the future for big topics but man are they a lot of work! 😅

@KanKazable

9 ай бұрын

@@BatteryPoweredBricks Yeah I know a thing or two about that :D However if you put a work in, the growth on YT is usually exponential, so don't loose strenght! :D

I remember drooling over that train station in the catalogs!

@BatteryPoweredBricks

11 ай бұрын

For sure!

I had the green freight train RC set, I loved that thing. I remember the power functions system wasn't particularly well loved when it first came out.

@BatteryPoweredBricks

10 ай бұрын

Probably true of all systems when they first released

Yay! Always wanted to know, why I haven’t seen much of RC systems, as I had one as a kid))) This was really cool! The train could go super-fast, falling off the rails not even on the last speed mode😅

@BatteryPoweredBricks

10 ай бұрын

It was a "play feature" 😅 full speed ahead!

Great vid and very informative! Loved hearing Sluggers music in the background ahahaha.

@BatteryPoweredBricks

11 ай бұрын

Thanks 😁 I've been waiting for a segment that felt right with his music

Amazing video, I love the use of wintergatan as well, love their music

@BatteryPoweredBricks

11 ай бұрын

Thanks! I as very excited when Martin announced they were allowing the use of their music 😀 It's featured in most of my videos

@spikeworks

11 ай бұрын

@@BatteryPoweredBricks Yeah, I like to feature their music in as many ways as I can

This guy just made research fun, give him an award

a few years ago i got one of those old powered rail ones as a gift from my aunt and it is pretty cool it definitely stands out in comparison to the rest of the stuff with that big yellow control wheel.

@BatteryPoweredBricks

3 ай бұрын

I spent so much time as a kid drooling over them in the catalogs. I finally got one of the last 9v train sets when I got my first job. It wasn't until the last 2 years or so when I started buying more

@n1co2017

3 ай бұрын

@@BatteryPoweredBricks the one i got was set 4558 it was ancient when i got it so there were some missing parts for the trains themselves but other than that i had everything

I have noted one very useful thing with the 9v RC motors--you can dual-motor a 9v locomotive quite effectively via an extension wire from the track powered motor's top studs, run through the structure to the other motor. The RC motors perform just as well with that track power, and are a LOT cheaper. Potentially could use a couple wires, plus another stacked in to add lighting, but I haven't tested that.

@BatteryPoweredBricks

10 ай бұрын

Pretty sure I have my first 9v RC motor on its way from a Bricklink order. I feel like I've heard varying opinions on them but I'll try it for myself. As long as it performs ok the only downside is having less axles picking up power from the tracks, but as long as they are pretty clean it shouldn't be an issue

@richardakajazzyamx9690

10 ай бұрын

@@BatteryPoweredBricks Yeah, less axles for pickup is a thing, but I also figured one of the advantages is perhaps a bit more traction with the newer wheels (and with axles, you could even add third party wheels with beefier traction tires).

When Search'n'Rescue started playing I had to check the description to make sure my brain wasn't hallucinating, great choice!

@BatteryPoweredBricks

10 ай бұрын

I've been waiting for a good opportunity to use some of Slugger's music for a while now. I think it fit in pretty well in this video 😁

3:27 so good to see someone is maintaining compatible track and engines. I had the metro liner set as a kid, and invested in SO much track - however sadly the engine/motor has seized :(

@bricktrainfan

9 ай бұрын

There are a number of 9 volt motors available on BL, a bit price but well worth keeping that metroliner of yours running. I try to keep 2-3 spare 9 volt motors at hand just in case. So far I have only had to replace one. BTW if you ever wish to get rid of the metriliner let me know 😀

This is the first video of yours I see, did you just start? you should have 100K subs, you are a talented video maker. I am not really interested in LEGO trains, but the quality of this video makes me want to see more. in other words: great job!

@BatteryPoweredBricks

10 ай бұрын

Thanks 😅. I revived the channel about a year and a half ago. This video is by far the most successful video I've made, but I certainly can't make one like it every week, this one took a while. I've also jumped around a bit from Mindstorms, Lego RC and GBC. That tends to hurt the channel overall and it's not uncommon to lose subscribers. I just make the videos I want to make and try to make them as entertaining / informative as possible 😃

Growing up I had the two City RC trains, the passenger and freight. Both of them are currently in pieces tho. As of now I currently have on PF train, the blue freight hauler to be exact.

Great video and thnx👌🏻😎

Finally watched this after being on vacation for a week - excellent video, very comprehensive overview of all of the systems! Thanks for featuring 12v footage from my channel! Hopefully you can get a small loop of 12v track and a motor soon... then the addiction will kick in, heh heh heh... I mean what, 12v isn't an addiction

@BatteryPoweredBricks

11 ай бұрын

"Just one more 12v train... that's all I need... and the box for it... with inner trays..." 😂

@Reker1million

11 ай бұрын

@@BatteryPoweredBricks And tray lid... stickersheet too...

Great video showing the pros and cons of each system, for myself personally 9v was the best system and never got to reach it's full potential, sadly this can be said of many of the LEGO Train systems as they are generally only supported for around 10 years before being dumped for a new system such as Power Functions, that said TLG's mentaltity is they are developing systems for chlidren to use over a typical childhood, not a long lasting system that will be used by adults in the more traditional model railway format. I loved my period of LEGO train building and the things I was able to accomplish personally and as part of a club in the exhibition circuit, but the constant chopping and changing of systems and the overall lack of support by TLG towards longterm users such as myself prompted me to leave LEGO Trains and go back to traditional model railways. Das Steinkopf

@BatteryPoweredBricks

11 ай бұрын

I can certainly understand that. At least nowadays we have third parties stepping in with solutions for Adult fans of Lego trains. Lego releasing a passenger train and a cargo train every 3 years and changing the system every 10 just isn't enough to keep the hobby going

@Blackadder75

10 ай бұрын

@@BatteryPoweredBricks what about the 4,5V system? did you get that in the Americas? We , in Europe had that as a cheaper alternative for kids in the 12V era. Only rich kids got the 12V stuff, it was already very expensive when it was new.

@BatteryPoweredBricks

10 ай бұрын

@@Blackadder75 I'm not sure if the 4.5v system was sold here, I would have been far too young.

What a great video! I personally have a 12 volts layout but Im also used to 9 volts because my friend has some. In my opinion power funktions is the best.

@BatteryPoweredBricks

10 ай бұрын

There are certainly a lot of Lego train fans that prefer Power Functions. It's my least favorite system personally but everyone will have different needs / goals. I'd love to get into 12v trains at some point but the cost is far too high at the moment

I've still got a huge bucket full of 12v centre rail Lego train stuff... I really liked the "piano" style controls for the accessories. Very tidy and simple to use. I had a gated crossing, 2 point motors, and a signal. I think thats all I had anyway. And a working C battery 4.5v battery train system from before that... 80's stuff. Also had a signal and a reverser for that too. Signal raised a little bar between the tracks that pushed in a button under the motor and cut off power, and the reverser flipped the forward/reverse switch built into the battery box. Dang, i feel old now.

@BatteryPoweredBricks

10 ай бұрын

The 12v system is great! I'd have a bunch if it wasn't so hard to come by! I would mind some 4.5v stuff either

@HuugTuub

10 ай бұрын

My grandparents still have multiple sets of the 12v stuff in the attic. As well as more old lego sets. It's all 80's stuff my mom and aunt used to play with.

Wintergatan🤘❤️ cool vid, keep up the good work

@BatteryPoweredBricks

9 ай бұрын

Thanks! Always Wintergatan 😁 They had just announced they were allowing the use of their music when I revived the channel

So, I’ve been getting into making custom Lego trains lately. Recently, I started setting up a model track. I have the blue cargo train with the Power Function system. I had no idea they stopped making them, as I bought the train an extremely long time ago. I feel old now lol

Nice video very informative, I would love to see a follow-up of the different software options.

@BatteryPoweredBricks

11 ай бұрын

I won't use the s word (soon) but it is something I plan on diving into!

The RC train was my first one. Still own this set! Also have the powerfunctions snd powerd up trains!

I've always been a hardcore simp for Power Functions. No need to worry about shorting out the track or anything, meaning balloon loops are possible, and movable bridges don't require isolation or forcing connections. The third-party accessories for tracks are just so much broader than 9v as well. The one thing that saves PF from being bested by PU's Bluetooth is the cost of PF elements, which is kinda irrelevant because of BuWizz's power bricks having Bluetooth & being compatible with both systems. That, and PF hits me right in the nostalgia, because of my Horizon Express set

@VestedUTuber

11 ай бұрын

LEGO 9v switches are power-routing on the inside rail, that makes doing a balloon loop with them surprisingly easy if you're willing to get creative. You'd just need to electrically isolate the outside rail within the loop from the rest of the layout, connect the outside rail to power via a double-pole double-throw switch (power functions reversing switch works great), connect the turnout lever to the power reversing switch, and then just remember to stop the train in the loop and change the switch every time the train goes through. A lot of the problems the 9V guys seem to have have already been solved by the model railroading community.

@treinenliefde

11 ай бұрын

Power functions is my favourite as well, because it's just so flexible. The ability to use adapters to connect both the PF motors and older 9V motors, use large technic motors hooked up to train controllers and just the very good flexibility of the system makes me like it a lot. Admittedly I haven't tested a lot of Powered Up electronics since I only have the Crocodile, but with some modding it would probably be a good alternative since you don't need a bulky IR receiver.

Gotta love the intro!! Did I create a trend?! I also need to create the cool large train setups like you

@BatteryPoweredBricks

11 ай бұрын

Answer the question in the first 15 seconds 😁. My setups feel small after seeing some being posted in my Discord 😅

@leggomyjameso6082

11 ай бұрын

@@BatteryPoweredBricks your intro was amazing! And yes I feel like no matter how large our setups get there is always a bigger one haha

I really do love that intro! 9V. that's it and deal with it! :D Every system has its advantages and disadvantages: 12V: you'd never guess but the smell that comes of those engines is just awesome, brings me right back to my childhood! The disadvantage is the constant derailings. 9V: runs so much smoother than 12V! That's why I made that my "basis of design". PF: multiple trains on the same track with different speeds: yeah! But batteries and no signal in tunnels or in clear sunlight... PU: no separate receiver and BT has no connection problems. Still batteries though...

@BatteryPoweredBricks

11 ай бұрын

I hope to at least get a small loop for a 12v setup, pretty sure my modified speed regulator would power it fine. I'd love to test it someday. For PF issues in sunlight I almost used a clip of you at the beach with BANANENBUURMAN 😅

@almightyarjen

11 ай бұрын

@@BatteryPoweredBricks Haha, you should have used the clip!

@BatteryPoweredBricks

11 ай бұрын

I think the clip was a bit short or something, a prime example for sure!

@VestedUTuber

11 ай бұрын

"you'd never guess but the smell that comes of those engines is just awesome" If it's what I think it is, that's the motor slowly burning out. Different type of product but same situation, I have a Dapol Britannia in N scale that came from the factory with a shorted motor. We only found that out because it reeked of ozone and kept getting stuck at the exact same point in its rotation. Ended up having to completely replace the motor. It's definitely a nostalgic smell, but it does indicate a bad, cheap or old motor.

@Blackadder75

10 ай бұрын

Arjen, your parents must have been rich, 12V system was very expensive already when it was new. I usually got a fl 50,- item for my birthday, you couldn't even buy one train (track) switch for that money. Only on very special occasions did I get something in the >100,- range

With the Power Functions, Lego also released a Rechargable Battery Box.

@BatteryPoweredBricks

11 ай бұрын

Ah good point. Although after all these years they are very hard / expensive to find 😬. Maybe I shouldn't tempt people with what they can't have 😅

Or if you having a steady model for example of music, sirens there has to be a constant power to the motor in order to play the song and then you have to be the buttons that can charge the dampers

Mine (in the 1980's) had plastic tracks, with a (removable) double metal rail in between. The intersections (straight and split) had fixed metal parts. Amazing to see what is possible nowadays. Thx.

@BatteryPoweredBricks

10 ай бұрын

The 12v system in the 80's was just awesome. I hope to get some one day

@bricktrainfan

9 ай бұрын

The separate metal tracks is one of the things that made 12 volt a bit....pesky.

really cool to hear wintergatan in the back!

@BatteryPoweredBricks

10 ай бұрын

They are in pretty much all my videos 😁 props to them for allowing its use 👍

I had both RC Trains and i was in love with them cuz i way a kid lmaoo. But sometimes i think about building the trains & a nice track again

@BatteryPoweredBricks

10 ай бұрын

Never too old 😁

The RC system trains were my introduction to lego trains, still have my ICE and also the other one but it fell off a shelf years ago and i never restored it

@BatteryPoweredBricks

11 ай бұрын

Oh no, any broken pieces or just needs reassembled? I have an RC train base I got in a lot but never had any of the trains

Best. Video. Yet. 💯

I still have that double crossover collecting dust in the attic somewhere, didn’t know there was money to be made!

@BatteryPoweredBricks

11 ай бұрын

They are listed for high prices, idk if anyone is buying them with all the third party alternatives on the market 🤷‍♂️

3:47 Atlas, the manufacturer of model O, HO, and N scale track, produce electrical components to make 2 Rail reverse loops easy to install. I bet it would be easy to adapt all kinds of model railroading tech to LEGO train systems. Atlas also publishes “How-To” books for beginners that go into detail about 2 rail wiring.

@BatteryPoweredBricks

5 ай бұрын

Cool! I'll have to check them out. I've seen some solutions here and there for Lego but until I can get dedicated power pickup bogies I'll just stick to using reversing loops on my Powered Up trains

The lego train systems from the 80's / 90's is where it's at. I'm thinking the 80's 12v system was the pinnacle. I have a lot (huge amount) of the Power Functions system. As you point out the RC signal can be easily disrupted by sunlight, fluro light and obstacles. But to me it was this era when it felt like Lego didn't take model trains seriously. The tracks available were bare bones if you wanted to make a serious layout. I found the battery compartment were quite picky which batteries you used, especially in the way the 'positive' nipple sat in the battery pack. Anyway I don't look at Lego stuff on KZread any more after I had legal threats from very nasty lawyers. It seems lego are very particular in how they let show off their amazing toys

@BatteryPoweredBricks

17 күн бұрын

I have heard Lego can be a very litigious company. It's really sad to see them attacking their biggest fans / communities. I'm working on building up my 12v supply, I have everything but motors / trains and many of the electronic accessories. It's pretty expensive to acquire here in the US. I do have a fair bit of 9v though and thoroughly enjoy running them 😁

@leokimvideo

17 күн бұрын

@@BatteryPoweredBricks The Lego lawyers who had a good go at me were based in New York, I have a string of legal letters from them. They clearly outlined what they see has harmful to the Lego brand. My conflict was over copyright as they claimed I used parts of the Lego Ninjago animated series even though I always use totally self generated video. I requested from them timestamps of the offending video yet they couldn't supply any. It was the earlier days of the content ID system. I saw their interaction with me as a warning shot fired over my shoulder. Basically back off as your not part of the club. Their actions against my content caused me losses and I never received an apology. Lawyers never say sorry because that would implicate blame. From that time on I have ignored Lego and I ended up becoming a huge toy review channel.

I just subscribed to your channel. Excellent comparison video. My train collection is exclusively 9 volt. I have been collecting 9 volt since introduction and have most sets, multiple motors and speed regulators and 2 MISB 90' crossings. I hate batteries and so should the Lego Group. I also have a fairly large collection of original Lego monorail sets and track. And thanks for the site links. I will be taking a look at FX Bricks products.

@BatteryPoweredBricks

11 ай бұрын

Awesome! My hatred would be stronger for batteries if I had a permanent layout instead of just setting up for a video. Much less trying to run trains all day at a convention 😬. The only complaints I've heard about Fx Bricks is the price and the product development time, which really is to be expected from a company like them. Clearly a lot of time and money goes in to these products. I've yet to hear a complaint about quality, which is the most important factor to many

@starhunter2300

11 ай бұрын

I'm currently building a layout in my basement. It's about 200 square feet of tables with room to expand. I feel lucky to have a house with a basement and glad I started collecting 9 volt when it was released.

@BatteryPoweredBricks

11 ай бұрын

Yeah we don't get many basements in Florida 😅. Do you post online anywhere? If you use Discord there's one linked in the description along with my other social media. I'd love to see the layout!

@jfwfreo

10 ай бұрын

Unfortunately regulations (in the EU specifically I believe) are what forced LEGO to switch from powered rails to batteries. The regulations place restrictions on the minimum age that toys that plug into the wall can be marketed at/sold to.

@BatteryPoweredBricks

10 ай бұрын

@@jfwfreo I kind of figured there was a a reason like that. Just like how they have to have screws on the battery compartment of the newest Powered Up Technic hubs

The RC trains were the first ones I had contact with, once I got a job and was able to start getting into the hobby. The main advantage to them is that they don't require line-of-sight to operate, unlike the Power Functions ones that followed, nor do you need to fiddle with pairing or phones like the Powered Up ones. The secondary advantage is that these were the first to include a horn sound, which was quite loud and which operated from the remote itself regardless of whether a train was operating or not. As you can imagine, it could be used to scare the crap out of others :| However, you pay a pretty big price for it: - The Remotes essentially have only 3 channels, so if you have more than 3 trains, tough tamales (the RC aspect even works against you there, as you need a considerable distance if you want to use a separate remote for 3 other trains, otherwise the signal just gets sent to whatever chassis units are using the same channel); - There is no battery-box, the locomotive chassis is one large, integrated piece that has both the radio receiver and batteries, so if you, let's say, forget a bunch of batteries in it and they corrode and destroy the contacts, you're pretty much screwed as the whole thing is rendered useless; - Because of the integrated chassis, the only other locomotives you can build out of it are other large locomotives with 2 carriage-sets, so you can't use it to make smaller models.

@BatteryPoweredBricks

4 ай бұрын

I do have some of the RC series parts. The train base with battery box and receiver built in and the RC remote. IIRC both have battery corrosion that needs cleaned and I don't have any of the pieces to build the trains from that era. At this point I don't really see the need since other channels have covered them and shown how they work. In upcoming videos I'll be using a TON of PU trains at once and even combining them to pull heavy loads. With PyBricks I think PU is my system of choice for the majority of my trains, with some 9 volt thrown in for good measure

I totally agree!

@BatteryPoweredBricks

5 ай бұрын

Wait... on which part 😅

There something called an "Atlas Selector" that basically works just like the signal on the lego 12v system (7860, If you want to look into it). If you pair it up with 5-6 9v GM transformers (9v transformers don't work, as they don't have screw terminals) can give you a feel for how the 12v system works and could, you know, get you into it.

@Romaniaball_lol

4 ай бұрын

Also, O gauge Rail Joiners are necesary.

@BatteryPoweredBricks

4 ай бұрын

I love to see that kind of stuff, for myself I stick to mostly Lego solutions. I will be dabbling in Lego 12v eventually 😁

@Romaniaball_lol

4 ай бұрын

@@BatteryPoweredBricks In the span of exactly 22 hours, I made it possible to wire it up with 9v transformers by removing the track connectors, then connecting the wires themselves to the Selector and using copper tape to connect the Selector to the track using @BrickRevolution's method right here kzread.info/dash/bejne/dXxn2dmHdtCdlbQ.html.

Aftwr watching this video like 15-40 times, I still can't remeber what you said was the best. So I will assume that you love 9 Volt, and that I will stick with Powered Up, with maybe some Power Functions adaptions in teh future.

@BatteryPoweredBricks

6 ай бұрын

11:47 I tend to use a mix of all Lego systems. Powered Up and 9v for trains and Power Functions / 9v for controlling switch tracks. The entire point of the video is to say I don't think there is a best system for everyone. Different Lego fans will have different needs and some systems may suit them better. By all means, feel free to watch the video a few more dozen times though, watch time definitely helps the channel 😁

The next big thing would be wireless power or, depending on how efficient the motors are, ambient light power.

I love that ive got the RC- system. But in all honesty that dont matter to me. Had a blast playing with it and i still got it. how ever ive since gone smaller to 1/160

Power Functions is my favourite and it's what most of my custom trains use as I run my trains in the garden. Also I don't think you mentioned the PF rechargeable battery which is a life saver.

@BatteryPoweredBricks

11 ай бұрын

It's been pointed out I didn't mention the rechargeable PF battery, they are in very limited supply and very expensive as well. So I don't feel too bad about leaving it out of the video 😅

Great video. Looks like, I have to make sure 9v monorail survives.

@BatteryPoweredBricks

9 ай бұрын

It survives here too, but I would consider it a separate system from the train systems

I was wondering if youre where gonna mention the rc one i actually got the passenger train loved it still have all the pieces and track the tracks have seen better days tho

@BatteryPoweredBricks

10 ай бұрын

It's brief but I made sure to mention it. I have some of the components but not a complete set of them, luckily I had some friends who allowed use of their footage of the system

i like seeing all the available options for controlling Lego trains but i kind of like the system that gives you a wireless remote with the train so incase i wanted to bring only a train with me i can

I know humour is subjective but I can’t help but wish more KZread videos were a balance of informative and comedic like this. It makes the video go by fast but you walk away with a lot of information at the same time

@BatteryPoweredBricks

11 ай бұрын

Thanks! If I had to pick a primary influence it would have to be Clint of LGR. I've followed his content for over a decade. I always appreciate a bit of humor thrown in 😁

I managed to get an used lego 4559 for cheap . I could said it's very efficient than battery althought I needs an adapter

Great intro 😂

@BatteryPoweredBricks

10 ай бұрын

Thanks 😁

Good overview! I've got a largish layout which uses 9V track (hard to find straights, especially if you care about new dark bley versus old dark grey). So, I can run all 3 styles. I do have the freight RC train, but the engine is so heavy that it can't even pull a couple of cars over a turnout pair (wheels slip). I have full 9V dual-powered Metroliner and Santa Fe, plus one freight engine. I have the blue/yellow PF engine dual powered (I just flipped the center two wires of one motor connector), and it is my most powerful engine - with care I can pull 14 cars around my layout, which has hills. I've got 3 freight PoweredUp trains as well, and they are not bad for pulling. I do wish Lego would make a rechargeable PoweredUp Hub - replacing the batteries is a royal pain. I have 3 of the rechargeable Power Functions battery boxes, and one is in my blue/yellow dual-powered PF engine. I got them fairly early on from Shop @ Home, so they weren't tooooo expensive. The local Lego group does a local train show each year. Depending on who is organizing it, it can be full DCC track. Some of the members build larger, detailed cars, and their trains need a pair of "consist"ed engines to pull them. They also have some small round rare-earth magnets that they insert between the Lego ones for more grip. I don't have any DCC myself, other than one engine with decoder inserted that can be used at the show. As you can see from my not-so-good videos, I do not build anywhere as much as I should. Other things take up my time.

@BatteryPoweredBricks

11 ай бұрын

I've heard good things about the third party KeyBrick rechargeable battery for PU hubs. They are fairly expensive, but still cheaper then buying used PF rechargeable batteries and won't be 10+ years old

@legotrainchris

11 ай бұрын

@@BatteryPoweredBricks Given how rarely I actually run trains, the expense isn't currently worth it. I basically charge up all 3 PU hub NiMHs when someone is coming to look at the layout. Next is a couple of weeks, I think. Oh, and I completely understand the pain of the time needed to make a video. That's why mine are not very good. If I can just glue together clips from my camera/phone, that's not too bad, but captions, etc......

@BatteryPoweredBricks

11 ай бұрын

Same here. I have over 100 rechargeable NiMH AAA's that I use. I just need them to last long enough to make a video 😁 For me making / editing videos is a big part of the hobby, maybe moreso than Lego itself. I just let KZread autogenerate the captions and hope for the best 😅

@legotrainchris

11 ай бұрын

@@BatteryPoweredBricks Hmm. Clearly I'll have to look into what the KZread Creator stuff can do for me!

I had the 9V cargo train when i was a kid.

Actually, in my opinion the 9V-rail system is definitly the best solution for powering the trains. Whats missing is a decent motor system with a smal rechargeable battery and remote function. Using the 9v rail system with permanent 9V, but a smal rechargeble battery would allow smal segments without power in the rails, so you can construct any track design without shorting out.Also you could 3d print any special part you need without worying about having power there, if you combine rechargeble battery and 9V track. Also while permanently powered you might need extra cables to provide enough current, on the other side you could also connect signals, ligning and track switches to the rails. So the number of wires needed are much less than f.e. on the 12V system, if you do the controlls for motors remotely. In my opinion the best option for remote control would be zigbee. This might be suprising, as I know no one actually discussing it at all for train control (it is more common for house automatisation, esp. ligning like Phillips Hue), but it has some realy nice features. It supports a lot of devices (255), builds a mesh (between all permernent powered devices), is low energy, bi-directional communication (so you actually have feedback) and multiple functions per device. Depending of the implementation, after setup it is even independent of a central hub (which is essential for its original purpose, as you do not want to be unable to controll the light at home just because the gateway does a firmware update or lost internet connection). It is also quite cheap. While sadly I lack the skills for myself, I certanly hope someone might develope something in the future. While model trains often use controlls much smaler, the scale of lego trains actually alow a scale for the controlers which would make DIY soldering much more easy (there are ready to program zigbee modules with 2,54 or 2mm pin spacing and of course cheap h-bridges as modules, so you "only" need to program the module and solder some wires). While Zigbee has a bit of latency, it should be fine for lego trains.

@BatteryPoweredBricks

10 ай бұрын

In the interview with Michael Gale mentioned in the video he talked of the possibility of a hybrid track / battery powered system. If it is something FxBricks plans to tackle I wouldn't think it would be any time soon. Product development takes a very long time. I've seen many custom solutions involving electronics / micro-controllers over the years. It's always interesting to see

IMO, the actual best system would be to take 9V train motor blocks and convert them to DCC, much like you would a more conventional model train. But at that point it's not really pure LEGO anymore, and it's a real pain in the ass to open those things as well. Or, alternatively, convert to a hobby-grade RC system, which is a lot easier since you can use either the PF motor block as normal or the 9V motor block powered through its accessory port (I'm not sure about the PU one, that might require additional connections. This is why proprietary connectors suck), but you still have to wire up an appropriate connection. The reason I'd say these are objectively better than pure LEGO methods is that both allow for multiple trains to be run on the same track independently, like the PF and PU versions, but without the hassle of working with an infrared remote and with a far higher capacity than just 3 trains. It's not like choosing between the three pure LEGO systems since those have their strengths and weaknesses compared to each other, DCC and hobby-grade RC are just flat upgrades for anyone with the necessary experience to install them.

@BatteryPoweredBricks

11 ай бұрын

DCC is definitely something I want to try out at some point. I tend to keep my videos as close to 100% Lego as possible so they can be helpful to a broad range of people. I haven't really seen many videos on DCC so maybe it is something I could do at some point 🤔

the accessories in 12v were clearly the best, and I say this as a 9v fan. I adore 9v, but... track availability is an issue (although 3rd party track is becoming easier to get). "It's 9v. Thanks for watching" 👍💗

@BatteryPoweredBricks

8 ай бұрын

I'm making more and more progress on making 9v just as good as 12v 😀. Remotely controlling switches was easy and I have several solutions I like, it's things like decoupling that I haven't nailed down yet 😅. There are some good solutions out there but I haven't put a lot of time into experimenting yet

i think there was a cross over avalebale at the rc train system using the same tracks as the power functions system

@BatteryPoweredBricks

10 ай бұрын

There was a double crossover switch, It's mentioned in the video. But there was never a 90 degree crossing after the 9v piece

Hi, I'm not shure,if it is available in the US, but if it is, there is another cool solution from a german company. Blue Brixx. It's based on Bluetooth with remote controls. It uses recharchable batteries and the controlfunction are inside the battery-pack. Please have a look on this system.

@BatteryPoweredBricks

10 ай бұрын

I haven't tried them yet, I do like some of their builds. Unfortunately shipping costs are quite high which has kept me from trying them so far. The amount of control I can get with Brick Automation Project and Powered Up puts a really high bar for any competitor to beat. Everything you see in my videos is paid for out-of-pocket so I wouldn't expect a review any time soon 😅

Question about the yellow and blue passenger train ("Powered Up" series). You use the right remote buttons to switch the front lights on and off, but our train doesn't have working lights. Is this an aftermarket accessory?

@BatteryPoweredBricks

4 ай бұрын

Yes it's Lego Part # 88005, they are currently out of stock online and in my local Lego store, but may have them in others. They are available on Bricklink under part # 22168c01. The newer green passenger train came with them by default

@arnaudsprenger7505

4 ай бұрын

@@BatteryPoweredBricks ahh thanks !!

I’d be interested to know to what degree the cluster of metal bits which is the actual motor in a LEGO motor assembly has evolved since the 1960s. Does a 2023 LEGO motor take advantage of modern materials, manufacturing, tech, advances in miniaturisation etc or it is essentially stuck in a time warp?

@BatteryPoweredBricks

5 ай бұрын

I imagine they aren't *that* different from each other. The only motor I've dissembled is the PF motor, the 9v is supposed to be kind of a pain since it doesn't just have screws like the PF and PU

Programable bluetooth controll with powered rails would be the best. Or at least compact rechargable power packs. Like 2x4 brick sized with conncetors on studs for ability to stack them for higher power but ability to use single cells in tiny locos if needed. powered tracks, outside of cheaper exploatation and less waste, teached kids principles of electricity. Many strange layouts could be made with insulating bits of plasticine, tin foil and wire. Mine set required converter replacement, rewireing of switches and power connectors but it would work today when dig up from bottom of my wardrobe. Voltage loss allowed for tracks between rooms from single supply and single motor was able to pull about 3kg weight on flat track. Sometimes magnetic couplers would give up before motor.

@BatteryPoweredBricks

10 ай бұрын

I do think that teaching kids basic electricity is important. I know it was for me growing up. I am looking forward to FxBricks power pickup bogie for using with other control systems

When lego does another Industrial train with complete track, I'm gonna get my first train, I've always wanted to get one but I don't want to buy an older one because of price

@BatteryPoweredBricks

6 ай бұрын

I imagine it will be a while, the current cargo train (60336) just released last year. They typically release a city cargo and passenger train every three years or so. I wouldn't say the latest cargo train really has much of an "industrial" look though. I'd love to be surprised but Lego has kind of been doing the bare minimum as far as trains go for a while 😐

I don't know if you missed it, but the biggest advantage to Power Functions is the ability to motorize highly-accurate steam locomotive models.

@BatteryPoweredBricks

10 ай бұрын

It was intentionally left out, I just wanted to cover the base systems using train motors. Steam locomotives can be motorized with Powered Up as well, you just have to use the PU app or PyBricks. It's something I'll get around to covering at some point, but I want more experience first

I want to build a Lego train, nothing fancy in terms of rails, just want to to do a simple loop with the train just moving the same forward direction, what would be a good motor system for something like that? (and if there are better 3rds party ones I'm all for that too)

@BatteryPoweredBricks

3 күн бұрын

The third party stuff is cheap but I can't think of a single one I would recommenced. I would keep an eye out on eBay, Mercari or other online marketplaces and look for deals on a complete set. It's probably the about same price as trying to buy some track, a power system and train wheels / buffers separately. I see some good deals pop up fairly often. If you are a discord user you can join ours and if anyone comes across a good deal they can let you know. They are also really good about answering questions and giving advice

This was a great overview - thank you! One thing that has always bothered me with battery-powered systems is the need to constantly replace batteries. Also, rechargeable batteries run at lower voltage compared to alkaline batteries, which reduces the motor speed. These are simple DC motors, where the back electromotive force is proportional to the motor speed. There is no field weakening concept as in AC machines since the commutator always keeps the rotor and stator magnetic fields orthogonal to each other. Thus, lower motor drive voltage leads to lower motor speed. Do you have any experience with LiON systems that regulate their output voltage (using a simple boost converter, likely) to approximate fully-charged alkaline batteries?

@BatteryPoweredBricks

11 ай бұрын

Not so far. I'm just using rechargeable NIMH batteries, they are fast enough for me doing simple layouts in my living room. I know Keybricks has a battery solution for Powered Up hubs. We have a member in our discord that swears by them, they are expensive but I may try them someday. There are some DIY solutions as well but again not something I've tried yet

@M60A3

11 ай бұрын

I own the mindstorm ev3 and having to disassemble the whole build to change batteries wasn’t a fun part of it

@BatteryPoweredBricks

10 ай бұрын

For sure. Builds like that also increase the odds dramatically that the batteries will be left in there for years. If I see a listing for an old mindstorms set and the model is built I won't even bother. Most of the time battery leakage can be cleaned but sometimes it's too late...

I was very confused when you seemed to be referring to the 4.5V trains as “12V”. But then I realized that since the 12V system was never released in the US, I hadn’t realized it was different from the 4.5V system (which my sibling had when we were kids). So there’s one more system, which ran at basically the same time. (Looks like the last 4.5V trains were 1985 and the last 12V were 1986, and they both started in the late ‘60s.)

@BatteryPoweredBricks

10 ай бұрын

I have some 4.5v parts but not enough to make a complete train and even less 12v 😅 I'll get around to getting them some day

@oleurgast730

10 ай бұрын

Actually the 4.5V and the 12V system were the same for normal tracks. The 12V system was an additional power track in the middle. Of course for switches and crossing the track was special, as you couldn't just add the power track afterwards. As a kid I had the blue 4,5 V tracks. I upgraded to 12V later. One problem of course was never enough crosses and swiches. So I learned about law of physics, esp. inertia: If you drive the train fast enough at a switch, it does not mater if it has power rails, the train still moves over it by inertia (or it derails of course...). Sadly shortly after beginning to upgrade, Lego changed to gray rails... Of course living in Germany where most real world tracks have catenary systems, I always whished for lego to implement that. Saidly they never did...

My issue with 9v was the wiring rotted out on my parts, and tracks are expensive I moved onto the new stuff

@BatteryPoweredBricks

10 ай бұрын

The 9v wires are easily repaired, sadly the track whether first party or third will always be much more expensive than plastic

I converted a red 9 volt switcher engine to the new power up. Works great.

Power Functions System has a Official rechargable battery box of the same size of the AAA battery box, with the ability to build a 4way cross via the 1/4 track pieces. 3rd party "S Brick" gave Power Functions the abilities of Powered Up years beforehand, as well as expanding the ability to control multiple motors.

@BatteryPoweredBricks

10 ай бұрын

Yeah I should have mentioned the rechargeable PF battery, but all I would have had to say is "I don't have one and good luck finding your own at a decent price" 😅. I also wonder how much their capacity has diminished over the 10-15 years since they were manufactured. I do have a couple SBricks I could try with trains but for this video I wanted a broad overview of the official Lego systems. I'm pretty sure FX Bricks has a device that is similar as well.

@kleinkramkiste167

10 ай бұрын

@@BatteryPoweredBricks I use eneloop in the normal battery box and it works fine

this video has made me up set aas i have never seen or heard about the 9v and the 12v --_--

@BatteryPoweredBricks

10 ай бұрын

Lego trains have been on a steady decline since the beginning, each system becoming simpler over time with less features 😒

Are all types of trains using the same standard track size?

@BatteryPoweredBricks

10 ай бұрын

Yep, any track from 9v in the 90's will fit with modern track. The older systems are the same gauge but would need a third party adapter to connect together

Do you know how to put the train on sleep and not have to press the button to turn it on. I have designed a train systems that goes around my room close to the ceiling, I don't want to get on a ladder every time I want to turn it on. 9V system would have been great, but too expensive in my case.

@BatteryPoweredBricks

11 ай бұрын

I can't really think of anything off-hand. If I think of a solution I'll let you know!

The best is Power Functions with the rechargeable battery box, nothing can beat that. Or maybe something can. maybe if you take the 9V train motor take the motor out and used it only to get power from the tracks than hook that up to the power functions receiver and from it to the power functions train motor. That would be amazing

@BatteryPoweredBricks

11 ай бұрын

It sounds like Fx Bricks wants to have this functionality, where power is picked up from the rails and used with other devices such as the PF IR receiver. Time will tell. The PF system is actually the one I use the least for trains, but I have seen many Lego train fans that prefer it for themselves.

@petsox6977

11 ай бұрын

@@BatteryPoweredBricks I am looking forward to that. I hope it will be as good as it sounds :D

liked the vid explicitly for the no bullcrap answer lol

@BatteryPoweredBricks

5 ай бұрын

It's funny I still get lots of comments where people will say matter-of-factly what THE best system is... and none of them agree 😅. There may be a best system for one person but it doesn't make it the best system for everyone

the 9V system was the best in my opinion. Rugged, durable and it just flat out worked. Not to mention that the 9V motors had absolute insane amounts of traction and pulling power compared to the power functions system.

i only clicked at the video to comment 9V, thankfully the video made that clear in the first 12 seconds

@BatteryPoweredBricks

9 ай бұрын

Time is valuable! The full video is worth watching though 😅