In my real world experience most people in this country are earning between R5k and R9k per month. I don't know where you are getting this average of R25k per month. People in this country are HORRIBLY under paid, that's if your lucky enough to even have a job!

@khumo5337

Ай бұрын

It is an average, so the high income earners push that number up. For instances those actuaries.

@ditebohoramongalo8993

Ай бұрын

So true

@nthatsh437

Ай бұрын

Where are getting these figures.? R25 000

@danielwells774

Ай бұрын

SA has one of the highest income inequalities so the average is a horrible measurement. Better to look at the median.

@laurensolomons5142

Ай бұрын

Right on the money my guy. I also guessed 5k.

Sipho and Jaco get R10 000 each a month and Leroy get 90 000 a month so the average salary is R33 333 a month

@darrelsampson6182

25 күн бұрын

It is more like jaco, siho, piet , jan, koos, tom, brad and 10000 more names added then LEROY with R90 000 a month. That is how this ridiculous people work out this crazy statistics to get to 25k. Wackhead should ask for a refund on his whole school career to even broadcast this nonsense.

@mr.sparkles4417

4 күн бұрын

It's R13 000 to R15 000 according to "some" survey.That still sounds to high.And is that before or after taxes 🤔 If you earn 13K I think your take home salary after taxes would be somewhere around R10 000.Not sure about my stats so don't hate.There are different tax brackets for "DIFFERENT PEOPLE" depending on who they are and who the know;)🤐

I hate "averaging" because it doesn't give a real representation of our realities. Most people in Mzansi don't even clear R10k.

@LM-he7eb

Ай бұрын

You shouldn't hate "averaging", it does what it is supposed to do. Staticians don't stop at "mean", they add median & variance to the report.

@6lackjesus719

Ай бұрын

@@LM-he7eb If reporting an unrealistic figure of R26k in a country where farm, retail & construction worker's barely earn R5000 pm is doing "what it's supposed to do", then I'd say it's flawed. Maybe report different because not everyone is a "statician"?

@LM-he7eb

Ай бұрын

@@6lackjesus719 NO! The definition of "average" doesn't change (nor become unrealistic) because it doesn't represent what you want it to represent. You take the total earnings in a country & divide it by the total people in the workforce. It simply means "If the earnings were shared equally amongst labourers, how much would each labourer get". It doesn't mean "How much does a typical person earn". It is not a median. You don't need to be a statitian to understand it. There are CFOs, CEOs, CIOs that make millions a month.

@6lackjesus719

Ай бұрын

@@LM-he7eb Lol I know how an average no. Is calculated dude, it may make sense mathematically but that's it. This is the same debate I always have with my fellow economists regarding gini co - efficients & how they don't give a clear indication of inequalities in real life. Anyway clearly we're not on the same page so let's call it a day. ✌

@LM-he7eb

Ай бұрын

@@6lackjesus719 The average does not have the responsibility to clearly indicate inequality in real life. That is not what it is meant for

I work in data analytics, and see thousands of salaries and payslips per year no way is the average 23000...from what I've seen its R10000 - R6000. Also to mention the minimum wage is less than R7000 pm, Most South Africans do not have a tertiary qualification, plus the unemployment, the poverty, and inflation...Long story short this is just middle-class bubble conversation.

@ScissorN

28 күн бұрын

How much do you earn im also in data analytics 😁

@kingalfred3902

28 күн бұрын

That minimum salary you are crying about was detemined by the ANC ...government ......!!!.....NOT Apartheid or the Private business sector ...!!!.

@keenancookson8641

27 күн бұрын

@@kingalfred3902 no one brought up Apartheid, bra. Calm down, you’re way too defensive.

@chloedsmith

25 күн бұрын

average vs median, I would think that would be the first thing you'd point out working in data analytics... South Africa has by far the highest Gini coefficient in the world (measure of wealth inequality) so obviously an average does not paint the full picture, you need to look at the median for such a skewed distribution.

@agnordardar3549

22 күн бұрын

​@@chloedsmithExcellent point

The average is R3500 to R5000 a month in Cape Town....get real guys, some are lucky to even have jobs😢😢😢😢😢

This is no reflection of the South Africa where some of us live. Where basic is less than R5500

@tessapietersen21

Ай бұрын

And we all suffer the same inflation 😢

@tpmash

Ай бұрын

@@tessapietersen21not possible to suffer the same when others pay R2500 vs R25000

@tessapietersen21

Ай бұрын

@@tpmash pay what? I don't understand if you're paying whatever or are those amounts you mentioned earnings. As far as I know, there's no low and high inflation rate depending on your earnings.

@wandiletembe

Ай бұрын

Idiot.

@o.c2231

Ай бұрын

You guys are on about salaries. I am an honest, hardworking human being, sleep only for 4 hours a day and earn less than R3000 a month. So, do you know how it feels to give everything you got and not earn a decent salary? Truth be told, 70% of the supposed “high earners” are mediocre in this country. They don’t deserve those ridiculous salaries! It’s a sad, Pather country we live in😢

Average vs median is the important thing here

Remove R50 000+ salaries from the equation and work on that average. It's more realistic.

@manofsteel9051

Ай бұрын

Or just look at the median salary instead of the average

You can see more here as well! Thanks for the shout out. 😊

@RastaAfricanGentleman

Ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣 Mphathi wethu

@liferesetwithboni

Ай бұрын

@@RastaAfricanGentleman 😊

@tpmash

Ай бұрын

We love you ❤! Keep those salaries coming! There’s a video you featured that shook me

The average is high because of the few high earners in SA not to say that the average person in SA earns R26k/month. I think the ordinary person (security, cleaners, etc) earns less than R6k/month. That lady (Boni) often show payslips of the extreme high earners in those particular industries which is distorted. Anomalies are not representative of the majority.

Feels like the Matrix trying to paint a happy image of everything being fine and everyone being happy when people are low-key slaves in their own country.

Very interesting, so what does a radio presenter earn?

The minute he said 25K knew everything next was bullshit.

@leratonkhethoa3295

24 күн бұрын

😂

Which south Africa are they talking about

@meln4214

Ай бұрын

Good question.

@danny50117

Ай бұрын

Money

75% of the employed population earn less than R5800 according to BMR. With 55.5% of the total population living below the upper-bound poverty line of R1335 a month and 13.8% live below the food poverty line of R624 a month. According to the Economic Justice and Dignity Group. Averages are misleading. Paint the picture of one of the most unequal societies in the world as is. This economic structure is not sustainable. And it will crumble. People will lose a lot thinking they are protecting riches by excluding others from mainstream economic participation.

@suzygirl1843

28 күн бұрын

Black women, please stop airing out our business. What are these podcast men paying you?

We need to take it by industry, retailers earn about R5000-6000, call center agents maybe R6000-8000, what about bank tellers? Cleaners who don't even earn R4000

The sad thing is , a teacher with 30 years experience is earning around the average salary.

@o.c2231

Ай бұрын

Some people are not earning salaries!!!

@deniscoyne5671

Ай бұрын

@@o.c2231 so does that make it ok to pay people poorly ?

@thokomalangcobo1824

Ай бұрын

​@@o.c2231so?

@simphiwerini9652

Ай бұрын

Theres internet online free learning. Bulk of the work is home work n online self study. More digital disruption coming for teachers, admin and lawyers

@o.c2231

Ай бұрын

@@deniscoyne5671 so is it okay for people to work 12 hour days for the rest of their lives not being able to purchase a home, send their kids to varsity, not being able to save, not being able to get adequate healthcare? The person with 30 years work experience should be grateful for what they have as they are earning a salary that allows them to execute the above mentioned comfortably. Many others work just as hard, if not harder, nobody hears their complaints. Why should emphasis be placed on how much teachers earn? Many people who are currently working as teachers with 30 years experience have retired in their minds. They do the bare minimum. This is coming from over a dozen teachers in this category who I have previously had conversations with. And yes sir, we all entitled to our opinions and I respect yours

My old man is a technician but earning 14000k these numbers are bullshit

the actuary pay is insane. those individuals are living well !!!

Average salary should be around R4500 most people earn too little.

@brucegarethgeorge

28 күн бұрын

That's because how much the few elite earn

South Africa is so broken. this saddens me.

I’d be interested to know the median salary. Average salary is misleading as the top earners skew the results. We have a huge gap between the highest and lowest paid workers in SA

Most people are between 3K and 9k with 1k going for transport. Don't average, we are the most unequal country in the world. The guys winning pulls up the salary average.

@kellywoodrowZA

27 күн бұрын

Agree, they should be taking the median and not the mean value. They're also averaging "salaried employees" which excludes everyone in the 33% unemployment rate from the calculation, excluding people who work odd jobs, tips, etc.

I know so many chefs that have left their employ. For their hours, stress and skills they must be the most underpaid people in SA.

@ScissorN

28 күн бұрын

Chefs deserve the street food industry , theres more money there than working for someone.

Just think how many poeple earn huge salaries to get to a 13000 average if half the country are poor

@maseratifittipaldi

Ай бұрын

13 or 26 ?

@hannesmulder6742

Ай бұрын

@@maseratifittipaldi even worse

That money is before Uber takes anything. That person may be an Uber "owner", not driver. Uber takes 30%, fuel, car insurance, maintenance, car loan installment, driver's & passenger assurance. They should be paying tax too.

I get R7650.00....I think you should check again and love the show😊

That's the bugger, inflation..... We are all struggling 😢

Difficult to measure average salaries across the board. Should be done across individual sectors, and then see what each sector averages, vs the rest.

average doesn't represent the country as SA is very top heavy in terms of earnings...the few extremely high earners skew the results. The median income will represent a more realistic value I doubt it's over 10k

The average salary across the board? How about per sector?

How do you work out an average? Sure many do not earn that amount

Absolute bullshit. We handle the payroll of one of the largest corporations. Average is R4500, leaning heavily toward the lower end.

@ScissorN

28 күн бұрын

😰

It should be 25 K for those that are starting ...even so if it wouldn't be near the developed countries were they make an average of about 40 K Dollars not Rands anually .

Bull most people survive on less than r5k a month

Wait!!! What do the members of Parliament earn

Median household income is less than R2500. Almost half of the working population is unemployed. Average is grossly skewed due to outlying high income earners

That's the average middle salary yes, not average of the country.

That is far from reality. That amount is including government officials earning millions, and there's way too many of them. Personally, I earn half of that average then. And only a few people I know, actually earn the average.

What is the minimum wages...

The average salary of a middle class is 18k. So in essence this does not provide a clear indication of an avarage south african salary, it provides for middle class. Kfm you are living under a rock. The numbers should be between 3.5k to 10k thats the avarage in reality

Those salary figures are determined from banking accounts and tax brackets. Most employed people in SA are paid in cash, and earn FAR below this.

How do companies think people can live on R10 000 or less per month? Transport, housing, food, water & elec, clothes, personal care...the list goes on... IMPOSSIBLE TO LIVE LIKE THIS. South African companies taking employees for such a ride. Should boycott all for a week.

@ScissorN

28 күн бұрын

What do you think of DA saying minimum wage must be scrapped ?

@ksc743

28 күн бұрын

@@ScissorN that rumour is political mischief on the part of opposing parties. The DA never said that, but if you dig deeper the DA did propose freezing the salaries of Govt employees (which are Very high) for 3 years so as to reduce SA's huge fiscal debt - as part of trying to get SA back on a stronger financial footing.

@ScissorN

28 күн бұрын

@@ksc743 but theres video of John saying that but i get you

@ksc743

28 күн бұрын

@@ScissorN it appears to be a complex subject which even I don't fully understand. I'm just listening to Steenhuisen's interview with the SABC where he says the minimum wage is a disincentive for companies. He says he'd rather introduce a Youth Employment Scheme whereby jobs are created and companies have to abide by the minimum wage as well as all the advantages that go along with having a job. Its a longish interview. I'd have to write it down to pass it on to you here. Seems too long for a yt comment🙁

@ScissorN

28 күн бұрын

@@ksc743 its ok ill search for it and listen to his views . Thank you

The disparity between rich and poor is skewing the figures alot. The top earners is making the this average alot higher. The real average is closer to 15000 I would say

One should compare the figures of people earning salaries to those who merely get paid salaries ( politicians).

@lindelwahlela1851

Ай бұрын

If you see the government as the 'only' problem and not the private sector that deliberately pays whites 3x more than Africans (according to StatsSA) , then you are part of the problem. If you are only bothered by the government and not the banks that colluded and manipulated the rand for them to earn a trillion a day for years, then you are part of the problem. Let us not be limited to government, I am not for the government. But when your only contribution to critique dialogue is government, then you sound like your problem is the face of the government. You take a risk of sounding like a closeted white supremacist because when you think government, you think African. And when you think private you think white.

Those stats are only including people who have real jobs. Because if we included the unemployed and the people working at shops that numbet would drop. I worked at a cashloan, a cellphone network shop and at stats. So I've seen payslips and bank statement and heard people tell me their ranges.

A stat that would make a clearer picture would be the median income or average throwing out highest income outliers who make a tiny percentage of the population but a large impact on the average

Oh my gosh what do I say with my miserable R4 932.45 every month. Been a pensioner for many many years. First disability pension and now I'm an old age pensioner.

@lawrencenannes4260

Ай бұрын

Government pensioner now get R2180 p/m a still have to feed the extended family and grandchildren because f our 45% unemployment rate.😮😮

Indeed the most unequal country, yet some are on R350 pm

Average salary for which segment /LSM.

It is shocking high salaries because here in high in Limpopo province you get maybe 30% of avarege salary

I dont know who made those avarages, but who ever it is should get in touch with reality. The average wage per month across the board for NONE managerial workers is LESS than 10k a month.

Do a Median on salaries instead of an average to get a more realistic number. So then, if you have 10 million workers, list them from lowest to highest salary earned per month, then take the one in the middle - that would be the most realistic picture for earnings in this country.

The lady in the grey was “very” sure that the average salary is R 13K 😂

@muzovukilekhoza3804

Ай бұрын

She was being realistic

@Wandile_Mahlangu

Ай бұрын

@@muzovukilekhoza3804 until reality said she’s not being realistic.

@moimeself1088

29 күн бұрын

She's probably closer to being correct if looking at the median, not the mean. Mean gets distorted by high earners, median is more representative bc it's the mid point, meaning half are above and half are below. Many people don't make (or understand) that distinction.

@Wandile_Mahlangu

29 күн бұрын

@@moimeself1088 “probably”, “if” and “many”. Please share facts or a study instead.

People are earning out there. I feel robbed.

That's a lie some people earn under R5000

@LM-he7eb

Ай бұрын

Somepeople earn above R1m

@tessapietersen21

Ай бұрын

Please take a walk out of your castle grounds...

@sanelemwelase

Ай бұрын

And some earn R70 000 a month. Just because someone earns little, it doesn't mean all people earn those peanuts.

@user-wc4ls9gt6s

Ай бұрын

Why are you guys making seems that almost all the SA earn 25k-100k every month

@fullmetaltheorist

29 күн бұрын

We have some of the biggest I come inequality. The average doesn't factor that into account.

The government salaries are making the average salaries show higher average.

@ksc743

Ай бұрын

Yes govt employees earn a LOT.

Income and salary are different... Salary is part of an income. Salary doesn't count business owners and non taxable income

that is about US Dollar 1300, right?

Nowonder overseas they make that salary in one day..

For Uber that's revenue for operating a business not salary. The salaries they show are often best case not average. Someone who is underpaid will likely not share their payslip.

next time check the median and not the average

average salaries also don't take unemployment figures into consideration, and how many people a breadwinner must support

Ok maybe but were i live forget about it you look at R4500 if you're lucky and then you have to work 7 days a week 😳

@6lackjesus719

Ай бұрын

True ,most South Africans dream about earning just R10k.

The ever hungry interest rates dog eats away your salary every time the MPC meets.

thats all lies all bullshit! specially on car sales and pa

Haha love this 😊

So glad that can earn that much my salary is R6.7000 a month for 48 years of service

@tessapietersen21

Ай бұрын

Do you mean R6.700 or R67.000?

@helentomlinson9147

Ай бұрын

@@tessapietersen21 it's R6.700.00 a month

@missflorencek8569

Ай бұрын

6700.00

@tessapietersen21

Ай бұрын

So very sad. Exploitation at its best😢

@6lackjesus719

Ай бұрын

What do you do for a living? 😮

How much does an architect earn☺

ok, so whats the majority earnings and not the average

Go look how us as security officers get underpaid ‼️make a program , video of this please , you guys who make this videos , gets more than us

I service, modernise and repair elevators and escalators and we take home wayyyyy under the average

Discussing the averages without discussing any other parameters like the spread, skew and distribution does not give the full picture.

Did you include the politicians earning more than R1 million a month in the calculation of this average???

Using an average can be misleading as it is skewed by people earning unusually high incomes. A more accurate depiction would be the median income. Informative video though

My wife works 6 days a week, all month for R7K. If either of us got 25K/m, we'd be okay. If we both got 25k we'd actually be able to survive, but currently just our medical aid costs are more than she makes a month.

@bevturner2258

28 күн бұрын

3 out of 4 workers in SA earn less than R6000 per month.

Where did you get this? Unbelievable! Corruption is up... Salaries are down!

I'm underpaid I get 4500 pm for 26 , 12 hrs shifts , 6 days per week , it's ashamed , we make the bosses rich , we bring in the money , not them , my boss told me that he cant give us a raise , bcos the clients doesnt pay him in full and that he doesnt follow the gov. gazette , he's a nasty Muslim ‼️There I said it

@1961rey

Ай бұрын

I'm so sorry to hear this, this is against Islam, he should be paying a living wage to those who work for him, God's justice will prevail

@ScissorN

28 күн бұрын

I always got paid more working for Afrikaaner than any other race …

@kingalfred3902

28 күн бұрын

Never work for a Muslim if you are NOT a Muslim..!!

Where are they getting these figures from cause people earn R5000 or less

I wouldn’t believe those statistics… no way the average salary is that high…

for the chef/owner person: a restauranteur asked me once - how do you make 1 million by owning a restaurant? answer: invest 5 million

Fin times disagrees, avg wages in ZA is about 14500

So how do people actually pay for things? Are prices low? Credit cards? Do people just not buy a lot? I’m comparing to an American way of life where people shop a lot but also use credit a lot. Thanks.

@j.t2310

Ай бұрын

If you can say prices for things that would help real numbers not what they post on websites. Eg a loaf of bread, a tank full of fuel, and chicken breast per kilogram, a tee shirt, a dress, baby diapers etc thanks to anybody who replies. I mean shopping a regular store like woollies or whatever the most common grocery store there, To make it “average” also cost to rent a 2 bedroom apartment. Since this won’t be as difficult to compare like a house

@LM-he7eb

Ай бұрын

Credit-cards, personal loans & store-cards are king here. We also cheapen our lifestyle: Cook simple meals, avoid going out, avoid prescriptions, use taxis (while your car is parked at home or used as an uber), cancel important things like medical-aid, car insurance & home insurance, bridge electricity so the meter gives incorrect meter readings, avoid trips & holidays, use duplicate clothing items & perfume, wear clothes twice before washing them, do our won domestic errands, handwash your laundry, use concentrated juice, go to cheap hair salons (or do our own hair), live in townships where rent is not paid or extremely cheap etc

@1wun1

Ай бұрын

Prices of many essentials are lower.

@j.t2310

Ай бұрын

Yes because hearing these wages and also seeing American people are moving there and talking about the exchange rate $1 USD = R18 made me wonder about the effect this would have on people who are earning in Rand. Thank you all for your responses. I’m not able to understand the impact of foreign residents living long term in SA and if it’s as many as I imagine or just a small percentage

Wow.. I am an unemployed Full Stack Developer, had to work as a car guard earning average R1.47 per hour @10 hours per day! Had to leave that to earn a whopping R27 per hour working at most 10 hours a week as and when needed as a delivery driver assistant. I pack, load, deliver and unpack entire homes and move them! Wow.. just wow.. i am also 50! I would literally work 18 hours a day for R8,000 per month! 24/7/365!!! And then I come home grateful for maybe R150 for the whole day, and see people who are earning at least R1k per day complaining? I guess gratitude can't be bought, nor can humility.. big love to all.

Average is a very bad stat to rely on. The high earners skew it completely. They should look at the median.

Average "suburban" South African that is...there's no way people from the townships are averaging that. Lies, PERIOD.😂 PROPAGANDA at it's finest.

@thisisntokozo

Ай бұрын

True😅

@memenation5105

29 күн бұрын

An average doesn't take into account of the lowest and highest denominator, it takes into consideration of every number on the given scale, that's why it's called an average. It's not propaganda it's basic maths. Also living in the township will obviously not get you a job that will get you higher earning salary, learn a skill that's in demand and become a valuable employee... This is how supply and demand works.

Ceo earns 1milion. 10 employees else earn 10k. Average salary= 100k.

3 out of 4 workers in South Africa earn less than R6000 per month. No point in talking about average salaries.

Average is useless due to a small percentage of high income earners skewing the data. Median would be more of the truth

Median tells a better story than average. “Statistics is a blatant lie”

Millions of people do not get salaries as you guys states.Millions only get 4500 pm and no pension or medical aid.

Average should be according to people 0ercentage not combined salary basics

I earn a 3000 monthly salary in mossel bay as a manager.

@leratonkhethoa3295

24 күн бұрын

😢

Bull. Most are under 10 000

These numbers are terribly wrong how recorded this crazy stat? When you earn 25K pm you are rich. The most people earn less then 9K.

The average salary. Fuck it! What's the average input of the majority of the workers. Trust me the least input for the highest return is the way our population thinks

This is not correct. Statistics show that only 20% of South Africans earn more than R20000 pm. Of the 80% that earns less than R20000 70% of that earns R8000 or less. That 'average salary' quote is from graduates not all South Africans.

A lot of these salaries are wrong, I know people in those fields lol.

@careerjungle739

Ай бұрын

Wrong? Dude come on😅

That is the reported inflation. Actual inflation might be higher.

Two bread is now R32 at pnp