Somehow I feel that Q wouldn't take too kindly to Nagilum hijacking his pet project.

@2bituser569

4 жыл бұрын

Or Nagillum is one of the many terrors that would stop your heart as Q puts it.

@cye58

4 жыл бұрын

Yes " Q " would tell him you can't be playing with my toys ! 😣

@knifeyonline

3 жыл бұрын

@@cye58 I agree... but I don't think a sentient pocket universe like NAGILUM would be a terror to the Q, but rather something benign if you avoid it, which the Q would since they wouldn't have the same control inside it.

@velnz5475

3 жыл бұрын

Unless it is a Q or El Aurian... although I doubt Q would actually do anything to Nagilum destroying 1/3rd of the crew of the enterprise. Consider it... part of the trial. In a dark and twisted way we have our morbid curiosity just like Nagilum

@aecides3203

3 жыл бұрын

I actually always wanted an episode where some cosmic being started messing with the crew of the Enterprise and, as any hope of escaping or outsmarting the entity was lost, Q showed up and basically said "I don't think so - these are MY toys and I don't appreciate you breaking them." before being challenged by said entity (probably one that has never encountered or even conceived of something more powerful than itself) and promptly snapping it into oblivion.

Interesting Wesley took his lunch break just in time to avoid being the death test...

@rolandet

4 жыл бұрын

Part of the Enterprise Night Crew?

@Krahazik

4 жыл бұрын

I do not think he was an acting ensign working on the bridge at the time of this episode.

@mb2000

4 жыл бұрын

Ben Swem Yeh he was, Picard didn’t like having him on the bridge unless he had a rank, which they gave him in Season 1.

@jacksonheathen2092

4 жыл бұрын

I wish Welsey was killed in this episode. He was my all time least favorite TNG character. 😁

@johnbockelie3899

4 жыл бұрын

He was probably too scary for TV. so they dropped him her, ( whatever.) I only saw that episode twice.

I have to admit, this episode was quite unsettling.

@Ragitsu

4 жыл бұрын

Likewise. It always makes me recognize the fragility of mortality.

@aetas4500

3 жыл бұрын

Those were the kinds of episodes that made Star Trek so interesting.

@FaySwine

3 жыл бұрын

Is it the CGI.😜

@Ragitsu

3 жыл бұрын

@@FaySwine Seeing the ephemeral nature of our existence being casually "explored" by an incalculably powerful amoral entity was worse than any primitive CGI.

@FaySwine

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ragitsu

I found it interesting that Nagilum called us overly aggressive after killing a crew member then threatening to kill a third of the crew. Apparently we have more common ground than just curiosity… If it was smarter it would’ve realized we value freedom over life.

@schachsommer12

Жыл бұрын

Nagilum does not know what death is. And we don't know if he was really able to understand it afterwards, because we hardly understand death ourselves, except that as individuals we are mostly afraid of it.

@rockhaze

6 ай бұрын

His reasons and our reasons for killing are completely different. For us, it for conquest/greed. For Nagilum, it was curiosity/learning.

@Noahloveless1

5 ай бұрын

​@@rockhazeKilling isn't always greed.

@rockhaze

5 ай бұрын

@@Noahloveless1 How so?

@Noahloveless1

5 ай бұрын

@@rockhaze Well sometimes one must kill evil or threats. There's a blatant and obvious example happening in the world right now.

Actually, this is also the episode that Worf mentioned a Klingon tale of a beast that devoured starships... sound familiar on Voyager?

@Janoha17

4 жыл бұрын

The telepathic pitcher plant?

@redoktober8164

4 жыл бұрын

Sounds like it

@TheLastVoodooMan

4 жыл бұрын

There were tales on earth about monsters eating ships as well. And just as likely it's Klingons exaggerating and killing anyone who doubt their stories

@redoktober8164

4 жыл бұрын

You mean like Charybdis from Greek Mythology, the Kraken, Jonah's whale from the Bible and the terrible dogfish from Pinocchio

@toomanyaccounts

4 жыл бұрын

or the amoeba in TOS.

It would have been interesting to see Q's reaction to it.

@DeathBYDesign666

4 жыл бұрын

It could be a q born outside the Continuum and abandoned by it's parents. It must be relatively young having never encountered other beings before also.

@jacksonheathen2092

4 жыл бұрын

Well, to Q this might just be another lower lifeform.

@michaeldriggers7681

4 жыл бұрын

Q's thoughts: "amateur"

@KristoferOlafsson

4 жыл бұрын

Q would probably say it’s barely any more evolved than a human is to a worm compared to the Q.

@pitodesign

4 жыл бұрын

Nagilum could be Q's pet.

This episode is scary man, no episode has actually scared me much like this. So creepy, I can’t describe it

@juresaiyan

2 жыл бұрын

I know what you mean.

@tren133

Жыл бұрын

The other one would be Night Terrors, where the Enterprise is stuck in the Tyken's rift with the USS Brattain, whose entire crew sans one betazoid killed themselves because some trapped alien ship trying to communicate with them drove the crew mad. Then the enterprise crew start hallucinating with spooky stuff like the corpses sitting up, and Troi is having these scary nightmares.

@InADarkTavern

Жыл бұрын

@@tren133 to be honest I found that episode a little silly. But generally, TNG had many of these spooky moments. I feel like Strange New Worlds could never even hope to capture this feeling, this heartwarming sense of stepping into the unknown, this feeling that made Star Trek so unique.

@ZmansEdits

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree! The part that really unsettled me was when Riker and Worf arrived on the Yamato with no crew on board. That eerie music and with the screech-like sounds before a yell was made sent shivers down my spine. And also the mirror bridge scene where you leave through one door of the bridge to teleport to the other side of the bridge. "One Riker, One Bridge!"

@schachsommer12

Жыл бұрын

I didn't find it any scarier than Q's barrier in the first TNG episode either.

Too bad this character was never used again. He was quite a menacing villain.

@Qardo

4 жыл бұрын

Well, this being isn't really evil. Though still pretty heartless all the same.

@Blazingfireball977

4 жыл бұрын

@@Qardo I don't think it's neither good nor evil either lol

@JimPlaysGames

4 жыл бұрын

They would have ruined it if they explored it more. This was exactly the right amount of mysteriousness.

@russellharrell2747

4 жыл бұрын

Beyond good, beyond evil, beyond your wildest imagination

@Dyundu

4 жыл бұрын

I like the fact that they never went back to it. Makes the galaxy seem bigger.

One arguement against the 'They never left' thing...Q would eventually have shown up, upset that Nag had stolen his favorite toys. :-)

@kosh9639

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe, alittle piece of Nagilum-- stayed behind to Observe...

@kosh9639

4 жыл бұрын

That would be a Funny episode, tho... Q appears for something (trivial) & says.. "You know you're inside a Nagilum.." 😂😂

@ytechnology

3 жыл бұрын

@@kosh9639 Moriarty: Ergo, I am inside a simulation, inside Nagilum!

"Then perhaps we shall meet again. Only next time it will be out here among the stars." ... Nagilum runs away.

@raven4k998

2 жыл бұрын

NAGILUM is me on crystal meth lol

@brianofphobos8862

2 жыл бұрын

@@raven4k998 Not me. I talk a lot faster on that stuff.

@raven4k998

2 жыл бұрын

@@brianofphobos8862 yeah well drugs bring out my dark playful side so i would drive you to suicide if I was drugged out lol

I've often called for STO to do a Halloween event: Nagilum would make a great "entity studying fear" for the event (although there are some better candidates). I loved that this was a completely random encounter with an extremely alien being. That's what space should be.

@otarthemad9780

3 жыл бұрын

That’s a fantastic idea

@valor1omega

2 жыл бұрын

It was one of the most boring episodes of TNG so it would be a very boring event.

@thesnare100

Жыл бұрын

the closest thing we have to a "halloween episode" of TNG is the episode Night Terrors.

That thing was nightmare-fuel to me back then and it's sight still makes me uncomfortable.

@lawlaw295

3 жыл бұрын

It was a well crafted horror-mystery.

@KanedaSyndrome

3 жыл бұрын

If you stare into the abyss, sometimes the abyss stares back.

@valor1omega

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, you must have been easily scared way back then, I found it boring as sin myself.

@valor1omega

2 жыл бұрын

@@lawlaw295 Your kidding right?

@JoeShmoism

2 жыл бұрын

@@valor1omega I believe yours is the minority opinion. It scared the ever loving crap out of me and every one of 2 dozen or so people I ever discussed it with.

There was a book I remember my mother owning, where Jon Lance wrote of the universe ending, and he (speaking as Q), mentioned that there are other entities that are similar to the Q, but not as powerful and all knowing like the Q. Makes one wonder.

@toomanyaccounts

4 жыл бұрын

Q mentions the Douwd, Organians. most seem isolationist and not interested in affairs of lesser races.

@richmcgee434

4 жыл бұрын

Or they're actually much more powerful and omniscient, and have successfully fooled the Q into thinking otherwise.

@jensdroessler3575

4 жыл бұрын

Joshua Farrell Jon Lance from Reue?

@cye58

3 жыл бұрын

Yes " Q " would tell him you can't be playing with my toys ! 😎

@mementomori7825

3 жыл бұрын

John de Lancie

The pocket dimension might be its body, not realm, and not septate or separable from its awareness.

@jacksonheathen2092

4 жыл бұрын

Yep. That's what I always thought about.

@Blazingfireball977

4 жыл бұрын

Interesting thought, & quite possible

@stuartschiffman2581

4 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly.

@corssecurity

4 жыл бұрын

He said as much in the video

@cye58

4 жыл бұрын

Wow that was "Deep" I like the thought process ! 🙏

I remember watching this and thinking they were setting up a whole bunch more episodes regarding him, but NOPE

@scottmantooth8785

4 жыл бұрын

*where else and in what other direction could they have taken this other than having Q show up or possibly the Borg or to add in the influence of the Nexus?...it's a good stand alone episode..true it would be pretty terrifying for Nagillum to show up and start "experimenting" with the population of an entire planet and watch with detached fascination as wars broke out and nearly all life was eradicated by various means before moving on*

@Bitchslapper316

4 жыл бұрын

@@scottmantooth8785 I don't think he was malevolent. He just didn't understand the concept of life, death or pain. I can't see him devastating a whole planet after even gaining a little bit of understanding.

@salaciousBastard

4 жыл бұрын

I would have loved an episode where Nagilum had run across that Douwd, Kevin, tried to experiment on him, and then had to reach out to Picard to save his ass.

@terminat1

3 жыл бұрын

@@salaciousBastard Nagilum may be more powerful. It can't be known.

I'm glad they never met him again, this made him more mysterious.

@litiviousspartus4611

3 жыл бұрын

Yep

@solomonreal1977

3 жыл бұрын

I googled "What is NAGILUM" and it showed me @@litiviousspartus4611 :''''(

Where Silence Has Lease is one of my all-time favorite episodes. Season 2 in general had a lot of my favorites... Nagilum to me always seemed most similar to a very primitive incarnation of the Q. In terms of his ability to manipulate matter and space at whim. Though, he was only definitively shown to have that ability within the pocket dimension. It's like a person taking a small fish net down to the nearest body of water and just scooping around hoping to snare some specimens for study. Perhaps he originates from a universe governed primarily by will and thought, and was fascinated by the idea of a universe governed, instead, by static physical principles.

Mice in a maze, we think little of it when running experiments, so likely neither does Nagilum.

They need more stories like this in star trek online. More mystery and exploration based.

@compmanio36

Жыл бұрын

The Foundry had several good ones. Then Cryptic struck and removed them all.

I'm not sure why, but when I watched this as a child that face haunted and scared me. lol

@pitodesign

4 жыл бұрын

Definitely!

@kshadehyaena

4 жыл бұрын

Same. I guess it's cosmic horror lite.

@jacksonheathen2092

4 жыл бұрын

The face & the voice too.

@TheGeorgieboy1978

4 жыл бұрын

Right!

@artrevolver27

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, the face seems to make my “uncanny valley” part of the brain act up!

Maybe Nagilum is a Wormhole entity that has gone wandering.

@jacksonheathen2092

4 жыл бұрын

A lost Bajorian prophet ? 😁

@Janoha17

4 жыл бұрын

@@jacksonheathen2092 More like a Pah Wraith that didn't get sealed away.

@patrickmccurry1563

4 жыл бұрын

@@Janoha17 Or in between, like an angel that only partly fell. Some myths about fey consider them that; too rebellious for heaven, but not evil enough for hell.

@knifeyonline

3 жыл бұрын

he can't be a non linear being at all, because the prophets don't care about death of mortals because they literally always exist regardless of if they die (if something has existed, it always exists to them). Nagilum thought it was strange something could die, and be finished. This is a stark contrast. (Nagilum is most likely a sentient pocket universe that can control all aspects of itself, giving it Q like powers within its own body only.)

@valor1omega

2 жыл бұрын

Wormwhole alien? They are to self-centered weak creatures to do what it did.

12:07 By that logic, the Talosians never actually lifted their illusion in the pilot and Pike's been stuck on Talos IV this entire time.

@jacksonheathen2092

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Picard & Data might never have left the holodeck in the TNG episode "Ship in a Bottle" either.

@viklaauma9151

4 жыл бұрын

With those episodes there’s no definitive evidence of that though. It’s interesting how he says Nagilum can now communicate outside the void, or can he?

@MrDalek2150

3 жыл бұрын

@@indetigersscifireview4360 I'm pretty sure the in-universe explanation given in DS9 was that it was in the mind of some 1950s black writer (also played by the guy who played Sisko).

@locustboy8448

3 жыл бұрын

MrDalek2150 Well, it was left open to interpretation. Was Ben Sisko dreaming? Or was the 50’s Sci Fi writer the one dreaming?

@Me4-gc8qs

3 жыл бұрын

@@locustboy8448 Both?

This is the point of exploring the gaxaly. Strange new lifeforms.

@tanyairwin3695

2 жыл бұрын

Galaxy.

G'Kar from Babylon 5 described a being like this perfectly "Imagine you are an ant .." the rest of the speech is on YT

@animateddepression

4 жыл бұрын

pass

@dariusgreysun

3 жыл бұрын

@@animateddepression lazy ass

@peterkrochmalni673

3 жыл бұрын

“I have just picked him up on the tip of my finger. Now, I set him back down again and he asks another ant “what was that?” How would he answer?”

Just watched this episode again today! It's one of my favorite episodes. Love Picard's line to Nagilum "WE CANNOT ALLOW YOU TO DO THAT! WE WILL FIGHT YOU!" Picard's character really shines in this episode. Wish a Star Trek novel would explore more with Nagilum! Haskel's death is pretty horrifying. Makes me wonder what exactly Nagilum did to him. Probably best not to know.

@ZmansEdits

Жыл бұрын

My theory on what Nagilum did to Haskel was probably he was transmitting the most amount fear into a living being. And that fear took over Haskel's nervous system, and motor functions. So Haskel probably had some type of cardiac arrest and wasn't able to control his body. Something like the type of death that Armus did to Tasha Yar. And as Dr. Crusher described it, "It just sucked the life right out".

My favorite part of this episode is that Wesley was on the bridge in the beginning and when they entered the void, but he was conveniently, what, in the bathroom? Something. Mysteriously not present when Nagilum decided to kill the random ensign. But then Wesley was back again once the newly killed ensign was cleared out. They never addressed whether he was in the bathroom or where he went, but he narrowly missed being killed.

@rayg6497

Жыл бұрын

Are you saying that Wesley is to Nagilum as Bruce Wayne is to Batman?

@crownprincesebastianjohano7069

Жыл бұрын

It was but one instance of Wesley's chronic masturbation habit that saved his life and/or advanced his career.

@One21Jiggawatts

11 ай бұрын

I think he’s saying the Traveller stepped in to make Wes tinkle.

@charlestaylor253

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, that was a damned shame...😏

@rockhaze

7 ай бұрын

It was an inside job.

I'll tell you what it is. The most pants-wettingly terrifying thing I've seen in all of Star Trek. Something with power comparable to a Q, thankfully localized in it's sphere of influence, but which is so alien and uncomprehending of humanoids as to be an existential threat with only the most casual of gestures.

@Nerdsammich

2 жыл бұрын

Right? Trek has way too many gods for my taste.

@LuxAeterna22878

Жыл бұрын

Have you heard the Q-Continuum series by Greg Cox? You should really check it out if you haven't. There's an entity in it that makes Nagilum look tame by comparison.

@shadekerensky3691

Жыл бұрын

Well it's not truly localized as it was able to communicate with Picard outside the Void, meaning that it's far more powerful than it lets on. I mean, Hell, from what we gather it seems like the Void that Nagilum inhabits in the episode is simply a laboratory of sorts that it uses to study things in our universe but it, itself comes from a universe where entropy does not exist which is why it knows nothing of death.

What's interesting about this is that Nagilum seems to be the first (and only?) evidence within the franchise that something exists outside the universe. Sure other timelines (that are mistakenly called universes) exist, and we meet plenty of beings that are said to inhabit a different dimensional plane within the universe, but Nagilum is clearly intended to represent something entirely separate. On top of that, his defining traits seem to include immortality and curiosity, which means that for him to have not yet discovered the concept of death (despite it being something that virtually every being in our universe seems to face, or at least be aware of) suggests that there are a lot of things outside our universe for him to explore.

You forgot that they (Data I think) actually questioned whether Riker and Worf were ever really on the Yamato.

I wonder if "Q" knows of its existence mmm🤫

@darkpaladinlanceramessesii5719

4 жыл бұрын

Most likely. He did say that the Q seen and know everything about the universe. And that their bored

@lazarusmagellan2367

4 жыл бұрын

DarkPaladinLance Ramesses II yeah they’re bored

@chrisdavis7283

4 жыл бұрын

Ahh...but it wasn't part of this universe exactly.

@ohlawd3699

4 жыл бұрын

@@chrisdavis7283 That "pocket dimension" to trap ships clearly exists inside this universe. And who says Q is limited to this universe?

@AnonEyeMouse

4 жыл бұрын

There are various super powerful races like Q, Nagilum, The Dowd, The Prophets... it'd be awesome to get some explanation of why these numerous beings seemingly all are willing to forgo control of the physical space of the galaxy and which are the most powerful or knowledgeable.

I've always said Nagilum was an exiled "Q" continuum initiate or something. He was already powerful himself and the "Q" as a whole locked him away in that pocket dimension. But finally got out.

@compmanio36

4 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't be the first time Starfleet has accidentally let out a Q that was imprisoned. You'd think God-like beings would make better, less accidentally opened prisons. Supposedly the God figure from Star Trek 5 was a Q, and the barrier was the prison that kept him there. Hence the need for a starship. Would have made for an interesting connection between the two eras if they explored it further.

@obilesk

4 жыл бұрын

@@compmanio36 This should all be Picard season 2.

@JimPlaysGames

4 жыл бұрын

A Q would know about death.

@terminat1

3 жыл бұрын

This is Small Universe Thinking. Nagilum is an unknown alien.

I would classify it as being amoral rather than malevolent.

I completely forgot about Nalgilum. I remember when I was a kid, when it's face showed up it scared the absolute fu** out of me to the point where I still don't like looking at it, haha.

I always thought it was odd that Nagilum contacted Picard one last time after the Enterprise left the void.

I legit just watched this episode a couple hours ago. The fact that you uploaded this on the one day I rewatch this episode in months is kinda weirdly awesome!

The name is Muligan, reversed. The actor Richard Muligan was originally cast in the role, but had to be replaced prior to shooting. He was replaced by Earl Boen, not Earl Hindman.

@RWSCOTT

4 жыл бұрын

:O

@michaeldriggers7681

4 жыл бұрын

Is that true?

@MLBlue30

4 жыл бұрын

@@michaeldriggers7681 Yes .

@wwclay86

4 жыл бұрын

The guy who provided the voice is the guy who played the neighbor on home improvement...

There are a lot of Howling Space Gods out there: Nagilum, Kevin Uxbridge and the Douwd, Q, and that thing from Star Trek 5. Most of them seem incredibly powerful from a human perspective, and most of them are never seen or mentioned again. Just one more near-omnipotent space entity, yup, regular tuesday, we going to 10-forward for drinks later?

@animateddepression

4 жыл бұрын

That thing from Star Trek 5 is called William Shatner.

@astra3310

3 жыл бұрын

Kevin Uxbridge? Was he the guy who got god powers then died in TOS? And what’s the Douwd?

@patrickcole7896

3 жыл бұрын

@@astra3310 the episode from TNG where this old guy accidentally made an entire species extinct because they pissed him off. The douwd are sort of like Q, except less arrogant about it.

I have an idea, and this ties into Worf's story at the beginning of the episode. He said that there was a tail of thing in space that would swallow ships whole never to be seen again. I would surmise that the Romulan ship was indeed real and that Neggie had that ship stored away in another fold or dimension of itself having encountered it before. After scanning the Enterprise and learning that these two were enemies he put them in the same cage so to speak to see what would happen.

@kosh9639

4 жыл бұрын

that's pretty good...

@magnifecent1swagg

2 жыл бұрын

You sound like commander data good job

@labaccident2010

2 жыл бұрын

That was always what i assumed as a kid.

One thing nobody's seemed to have mentioned: Nagilum was altered when the HD version of this show came out. Before, it was VERY obvious that it was like a mask with holes in it with a human's mouth speaking. HD stretched and blurred it, making it less obvious and more alien in appearance.

Maybe he's one of the 'Prophets' (wormhole aliens) from DS9 that has gone off on his own.

@jacksonheathen2092

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe. You're not the first to suggest that. But the galaxy is huge and I think this was an entirely different phenomenon.

@2bituser569

4 жыл бұрын

Jackson Heathen Yea, different altogether. Prophets seen to understand more than what Nagillum originally did.

@areon5312

3 жыл бұрын

Intresting thory now that you meantion it he kinda reminds me of them but less caring

@johnbockelie3899

3 жыл бұрын

Picard was just turning out his bedroom lights for the night when Nagilum's face appeared on the monitor. " Yo, Picard!!, BOO!!". Then he vanished. Jean -Luc turned on his night light and whispered " Q, I need you, and I need you now!!".

Some might say Nagilum has bad cgi, but it’s just what he looks like 😉

@jacksonheathen2092

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly. He wasn't meant to look fully human. Only to relate to them on the view screen.

@HappyHippieGaymer

4 жыл бұрын

I’d actually say “that’s not bad for pre CGI”

@cyberherbalist

4 жыл бұрын

I once spoke with a guy who was on the team who created Nagilum. He said they worked hard to get exactly the look we see in the episode.

@jim405

4 жыл бұрын

He’s mostly latex and petroleum jelly.

@animateddepression

4 жыл бұрын

Looks like some guy in blackface. Let's ban this episode.

"I've been Rick, and I apologise for my earlier mental crisis"

Nagilum...I certainly am curious as to what it actually is, but I also kind of hope that we never find out either. Remember when the Borg used to be exciting because they were an unknown form of life that were extremely powerful and threatening? Then the Borg became "meh, it's just the Borg again" when we learned so much about them in Voyager. I'd rather leave Nagilum shrouded in mystery as it'll keep that unsettling mystique about that it actually was in place. Having at least some mysteries unsolved makes them a litter more enduring.

Nagilum is just a "Child playing with Ants". Even his "Speaking" with us is him learning "Ant-Speech", nothing else. His Powers are similar to a Q, but yet more confined to his Realms - but improving.

Doesn't make sense that Nagilum would be Q as it was so ignorant and searching for answers (with no morality) whereas the Q appear to be all omniscient as well as omnipotent. Nagilum reminds me of the black tar creature that killed Tasha. They are both cruel and powered by pure mcguffin juice.

@joshuafarrell879

4 жыл бұрын

There was a book I remember my mother owning, where Jon Lance wrote of the universe ending, and he (speaking as Q), mentioned that there are other entities that are similar to the Q, but not as powerful and all knowing like the Q. Makes one wonder.

@Talladarr

4 жыл бұрын

ThePlatGamer the only reason Q couldn’t kill himself was because the other Q would stop him: even if a Q had unlimited(read infinite) power, 2 Qs working together would be twice as strong. There are many infinities, and some infinities can be bigger than others

@donkink3114

3 жыл бұрын

How better to gain the trust of previously encountered species than by interacting with it like you are something different?

I always felt like the void/blackness/realm that nagilum is in was in fact the entity itself. Basically making nagilum into a sentient cloud of energy or something. Just my thoughts.

This episode haunted my nightmares for years after seeing this episode as a child.

Looks like mulligan spelled backwards... You could see the episode as a mulligan

@JimPlaysGames

4 жыл бұрын

Actually the reason it is Mulligan spelled backwards is because the actor Richard Mulligan was originally intended to have played the role. An in joke.

@heatherduncan5101

4 жыл бұрын

So I'm not the only one who noticed this?

@user-nf9xc7ww7m

4 жыл бұрын

@@JimPlaysGames the alien higher in the hierarchy was the yrrebneddor.

@MrUndoe

3 жыл бұрын

Fascinating.🤨

@itRIX49

3 жыл бұрын

Yo, I was thinking that very same thing regarding the name of this being! Maybe this extra/inter/dimensional entity simply had to be "tricked into obeying our realities natural laws!" Ordering plane of existence by getting it speaking its name backwards, like DC's ⁴

You've officially creeped me out. I've watched that episode earlyer because I found myself randomly thinking about it last night. Also, What did you mean "Star Trek isn't real" 😢

I know I'm in the minority, but I really liked the first two seasons and I love this episode. Few episodes have this feeling of dread.

@_Omega_Weapon

Жыл бұрын

This was a good one. A few others too, but I think TNG really came into it's own starting with season 3.

can you do a video on sub-space? very little info that i know of and it would be neat to see exactly how star trek utilizes this section of space

@DrankenDune

4 жыл бұрын

From what I got from the shows sub space isn’t a separate area or dimension like in Star Wars, it’s just an extreme frequency that they somehow use to have ftl communication. That’s a completely sci-fi part of the show so it would be difficult to ground it in a meaningful way.

@DrankenDune

4 жыл бұрын

Virtual Reality Vertigo kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y2yel6ujacK8iag.html He was listening and I was wrong

@ace.l.w

3 жыл бұрын

The way Star Trek utilizes subspace is very consistent with the mathematical version of subspace (linear algebra, I can find a good textbook section if you’re interested) and I largely find it frustrating how the writers generally seem to interpret it versus how commentary channels discuss it.

If I was in Picard's place, I would have "Q" on speed dial for such a scenario. I'd be all, "Hey Q, it's your buddy here, do you know this jerk messing with us? No? Can you smack him around for us?" ..... or something like that. I think going right to self destruct is a bit hasty.

@rjonboy7608

4 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure Q would be any help if he did show up and then how would you ever get him to leave?

@cye58

4 жыл бұрын

I agree that's what I would do ! 😎

@JosephDavies

4 жыл бұрын

What's worse than being terrorized by an all-powerful creature? Two all-powerful creatures. They might fight, or they might team up. Either way you don't want to be near, especially when at least one of them doesn't understand death or empathy.

@PolloLocoTheFun

4 жыл бұрын

This adventure is before Q is exiled as a human, so... NOPE.

@JonThysell

4 жыл бұрын

@@rjonboy7608 Maybe the best way to make Q leave them alone would have been to ask him to explain/take care of everything powerful they encounter, until *he's* so annoyed he avoids them.

This was such a great episode

Nagilum was similar to a Q in alot of ways, I wonder if he was a cousin or outcast from the continuum? The traveller also proved that thought was the basis of reality, which kinda explains where nagilum was from.

I believe malignant would be more apt than malevolent in this instance as Nagilum was amoral.

@DrankenDune

4 жыл бұрын

They are synonyms, “malignant” has nothing to do with intent.

@spudhead169

4 жыл бұрын

What are you talking about? Mike is merely saying that it's more apt to call Nagilum "evil" by nature than by chosen actions because he has no morality, likely because he has no concept of it at all. Thus is incapable of discerning evil intent to begin with.

@mikevasquez1103

4 жыл бұрын

@@DrankenDune Malevolent DOES indicate intent though. Nagilum is Lenny killing a mouse not Hannibal Lecter killing Benjamin Raspail. Nagilum does not understand the gravity of his actions.

@DrankenDune

4 жыл бұрын

Mike Vasquez I disagree, Lenny killing a mouse was an accident and he was afraid to tell George. Nagilum was introduced to death and had concept of it and was deliberately experimenting with beings it deemed less important. Even if the whole “killing ships” thing was forgiven he still captured and abused sentient life.

My take is that this is the story of a television screenplay writer. A writer who has been tasked to be a "god" in a universe he knows little of. Some aspects of the reality are fascinating to the writer. And some seem a little silly. But, after a bit of experimentation and familiarization, the writer begins his task. Effectively "allowing" the Enterprise to continue. Briefly reflecting on how he will be with the Enterprise crew for a long time.

Do a video on *Armus* from "Skin of Evil" next. That thing was SO F****D UP. They should bring him back at some point: The Wrath of Armus.

@Tylerpierre99

4 жыл бұрын

Could you imagine if Armus managed to escape from that barren planet as a stowaway on a n alien ship that ignored the warning beacons to say...mine the planet. He'd kill the miners and take the ship. Knowing how vengeful and cruel he was, I think he'd probably go looking for the enterprise crew and Picard himself. If he had mimetic properties similar to the Founders, he could pass as anyone and get close to Picard enough to seek revenge. Alternatively he could steal an alien ship, enslave the crew and take over the planet as a maniacal god-like being.

@MichaelRainey

4 жыл бұрын

They should have had an episode where the Federation, maybe even all the major powers, were getting their stuff packed in and Picard decided to go get Armus. "Hey, buddy, remember me? I'm here to make a deal because quite honestly you're the lesser of two evils right now." "What?! Impossible. I'm a sludge of pure concentrated evil, I'm the evil of an entire race, I'll destroy this other evil." "Glad to hear it. Keep your evil reigned in around us, we'll make the introductions, and then you can go hog wild."

@davidhonez8859

4 жыл бұрын

@@MichaelRainey it would never happen it would be impossible to believe an entity like that would ever honor any agreements it made.

@2bituser569

4 жыл бұрын

Michael Rainey Have a Vulcan renegade like Sybok help Armus deal with his pain...!

@MichaelRainey

4 жыл бұрын

@@davidhonez8859 Of course Armus will try to go back on the deal the first chance it gets. That will be the driving conflict of the episode. Who cares about the extragalactic horror about to visit itself upon the Milky Way? Focus on Armus potentially gaining a shred of empathy. And then, AND THEN, big reveal the threat isn't really a threat it's just Armus's creators coming back to check up on their hateful little puddle of goo.

watched this at 9 years old and was terrified! Was mostly due o the fantastic Ron Jones music. Why he got fired was beyond me

The black zone is an intrusion into our universe from whatever plane Nagilum exists in. It is technologically generated on his end, and is essentially a virtual laboratory which can admit objects from our universe (or any other universe Nagilum cares to study) into a kind of holodeck-like setting. It has a sort of Möbius nature, as it's self-contained within Nagilum's computer system, so it has a kind of internal "Pac-man" effect.

Remember the dimensiional tunnel encountered by the 1701? With a madman and a rational scientist ending up fighting in nothing forever? Perhaps this entity is them fused.

@jacksonheathen2092

4 жыл бұрын

A good TOS episode.

This being is the scarest thing in Star Trek. Q is well Q and has no need to toy or not toy with you. Nagilum is horrifying to me.

@Revan2908

3 жыл бұрын

I agree completely. Just the way he treats you like a microbe under a microscope.

Not gonna lie, this guy has always scared the ever living crap out of me. Straight into uncanny valley territory.

@insertnamehere8099

4 жыл бұрын

Emil Hallgren Totally I blame the fact that I watched it as a young child for at least 10% of my mental disturbed-ness

@chissstardestroyer

4 жыл бұрын

He's probably as alien as an alien spiritual intellect we'd classify as an angel would be, he's definitely as curious about mankind as they'd be, especially one uninformed of man's value to his Maker, as far as science goes.

@salaciousBastard

4 жыл бұрын

@@insertnamehere8099 Nightmare fuel.

@thaynealexander

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I always have a shiver down my spine when I see him. I saw this when I was a young teen and he scared me a bit.

@jamesbeach7405

4 жыл бұрын

@@insertnamehere8099 yeah nagilum freaked me out as a kid. Now it's one of my favorite episodes.

Great analysis! Thanks for uploading!

There were times other horrible things happened because of different values or a misunderstanding and Picard brushes it aside or forgives it to fulfill their mission of exploring new life. I feel like they had an opportunity to exchange information, even after they escaped it and build a partnership (even if Naggy here felt they were somewhat beneath it).

Imagine him showing up in picard season 2

@animateddepression

4 жыл бұрын

Please don't give them ideas....

@mikicerise6250

3 жыл бұрын

"You again!" "Again? You never left me, Jean-Luc." "I...wha...WHAT!?" "Fascinating how you reacted to me killing the Romulans. You guys really don't like death, do you?" "*splutter*" "Well, we're done here. You can go home now." "*splutter*"

It seems somewhat obvious to me that Nagilum was supposed to be representative of what would happen if the universe were a large simulation and a scientist in the 'real' world decided to study various parts of it. Thus the 'thought reading' and manifestations of ships are all because the simulation is represented by code in the 'real' world. You could, I suppose, substitute the word 'real' with 'outside' or 'outer' or some such. To people who created this vast simulation, it would be relatively easy to manifest things within it and since they obviously have a far greater understanding of the rules of the game it's not surprising at all that materials they manifest would be 'beyond' the technology of those within the simulation. It's obvious that the simulation has manifested, or 'emerged', conscious and sentient entities within it. That in and of itself would be worth study. It also explains why Nagilum is relatively unconcerned with the effects of death. To him it's just code. Software. What really bakes the noodle is the idea of nested simulations of the same sort. Suppose Nagilum is just a simulation in another 'outside' world, and so on. Suppose they loop back on themselves so that there is no beginning. Even the way Nagilum appears is as if he were looking through a lens at them. The final obvious clue to this is after they are released from the null zone and have been traveling away from it at high warp for a period of time, Nagilum is able to manifest as a reflection in the screen on Picard's desk. Suggesting he didn't need them in the null zone to affect them. It was a scientific control to eliminate other influences on testing. Like isolating a program within memory. And also it is arguably the, or one of the, best TNG episode(s).

Nagilum is great piece of Trek. Love this episode, where they do appear. Great video.

I stumbled across this and was kind of pleased. Nobody ever talks about this episode but I always liked it -- a lot more than some of the 'weird and trippy" type episodes in later seasons, especially the last season which felt like they were really going through the motions. It's unsettling and weird and vaguely TOS-like (as quite a few of the first two seasons' episodes are)...one of my "pet" TNG episodes.

Idea. What if Nagilum is a species that is closely related to the Q. But unlike the Q who can use their own powers anywhere in the multiverse, Nagilum is limited to their own universe of "Nothing"

I always wondered why, the next time Q showed up offering favours, Picard didn't ask him to pay Nagilum a visit and demonstrate why it's a bad idea to screw with mortal lifeforms who might have powerful friends.

@EstradaDuran-sg6co

11 ай бұрын

that's what a coward would do

@NoJusticeNoPeace

11 ай бұрын

@@EstradaDuran-sg6co Yes, well, not everyone can kill God with a photon torpedo.

@Josh23761

4 ай бұрын

I don't think Picard is a vengeful person, especially not to a being that is indifferent to him and his morals.

The idea that they never left in that they're still there hits pretty hard

The black thing in space containing Nagilum looks just like the dead zone surrounding the giant amoeba in STTOS episode The Immunity Syndrome. When the Enterprise D approached it, Data should have been able to access information on similar phenomena from the ship's database.

I was well potty trained by the time I saw this episode. Once Nagilum appeared on the view screen it was back to square one.

So you suggest that we use "Deep space nine season 8" logic to whole Star Trek continuity. Now this is scary.

Just realized that its name backwards is Muligan. "Muligan" itself isn't a word but in golf, a mulligan is a second chance to perform a stroke--although informally--after the player messed the first chance up through bad luck or error in judgment. Mulligan also refers to a meat stew. Also, it scared the shit out of me.

I always considered the empty space to be merely the equivalent to an open window in a researcher's otherwise hyper controlled lab. "Weird, this bundle of alien flies just got in. Might as well study them while they're here."

the Star trek isn't real bit cracked me up

@nopenope1

4 жыл бұрын

yes me too^^ so I've looked at the comments to see how many have been cracked up as well ^^

You should do a video of all the cosmic entities in the star trek universe

@johnbockelie3899

3 жыл бұрын

" it's me Picard, Nagillum , the Phantom face from outer space!!!".

Oh how spooky, I just watched this episode last night and was wanting to look up info on him today.

One of the creepiest episodes, I'd ever seen....... Neither good, nor evil... The guy really scared me !!!!

Let's just be glad it didn't decide to "study" procreation between humanoids...

@jacksonheathen2092

4 жыл бұрын

Actually. That would have made an amusing storyline.

@MajorT0m

4 жыл бұрын

Captain's log supplemental.... Nagilum has forced Riker to have carnal relations with the female members of the crew. So it's a normal day..

@richmcgee434

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, like you need live subjects for that. "Oh. Oh, you people are nasty. Get the hell out of my pocket dimension."

@TerryProthero

4 жыл бұрын

Actually, he wanted to, but Dr. Pulaski said no. www.chakoteya.net/NextGen/128.htm PULASKI: Yes, well, there are minor differences. I'm what we call a female. NAGILUM [on viewscreen]: I understand. The masculine and the feminine. PICARD: It is the way in which we propagate our species. NAGILUM [on viewscreen]: Please, demonstrate how this is accomplished. PULASKI: Not likely.

@donkink3114

3 жыл бұрын

Am I really bad in that this outcome would be fun mostly 😅😅😏

What is it? Simple: creepy as f××k. :P

one of several interesting characters and storylines that would've been interesting to see more of but were never heard from again

I just watched this episode last night. Quality watch. S2E2

I love this episode of TNG.

Q brought him back from the M continuum to study I read that from one the old paperback novels years ago

@cye58

3 жыл бұрын

Wow that's interesting you need to find the title of that book and share it with us so we all can read it that would be very cool. 🤔

@thesnare100

Жыл бұрын

The Q contiuum trilogy, I read that series too, bot star trek novels aren't canon

Needs a "bwaaa" inception sound at the end for that revelation.

Nagilum was played by actor Earl Bowen who ironically played opposite actress Eleanor Donahue in an episode of "Ellen"around that same time. Donahue appeared in the original Star Trek series as the companion in the episode "Metamorphosis". Funny how these things work out huh?

I wonder if Q and NAGILUM are aware of each other? For that matter what of their relation to the Prophets or other non corporeal beings?

@marleyjanim5033

4 жыл бұрын

Doubt it.

He's pepe the frog. A hole in space is where all dead memes go. Thank god they got out before the rage faces came along.

@trekaddict

4 жыл бұрын

Pepe is still very much alive on Twitch. Half the global emotes there are variants.

@MLBlue30

4 жыл бұрын

Pepe sucks after 4chan stole him. Bastards.

@HazraPanda

4 жыл бұрын

@@MLBlue30 prpe orriginated on 4chan..?

@kosh9639

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂...

@GallowayJesse

4 жыл бұрын

@@HazraPanda Pepe originated from a comic called "Boys Club"

Yes finally! Who else was waiting for Nagilum!

This episode gave me nightmares as a kid but i also always found it fascinating.

Do you know if Q new nagilum? Could he be the same as the god type in the final frontier?

@bernardcalloway2205

4 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure that Q , knows quite a few ( Power Players ) in and around the Galaxy if not the universe " Kevin who like just said F*ck it and wiped away that Extremely hostile alien race that killed his Human wife ' bet Q knows of the { Wormhole Aliens } inside the wh near DS9 ' Q probably knew that Sisko was half Human and half alien 🤔 , ... anyway Q knows more than he's letting on , believe me !

@michaeldriggers7681

4 жыл бұрын

I'd love to have more information on the Dowd.

@michaeldriggers7681

4 жыл бұрын

Also, we don't talk about Star Trek 5

@2bituser569

4 жыл бұрын

Michael Driggers What does god need with a starship? One of the best lines

@jensdroessler3575

4 жыл бұрын

Michael Driggers Watch „the IT crowd“

I've speculated before that Nagilum may have been a Q who was banished for one reason or another eons ago, maybe due to being unstable or different from the other members of his species in some way. The void almost acts as a prison for him which he can call from but not actually step away from.

@shadekerensky3691

3 жыл бұрын

God, imagine a sociopathic Q, that's basically Nagilum in a nutshell.

The same questions can be asked of the episode where Picard (and the Enterprise) are time looped and falling into a wormhole/vortex thing. Troy said there was an intelligence behind it all but the episode never worked that out and they never revisited the concept. 😒

VERY GOOD EPISODE! Loved it

"STAR TREK ISNT REAL!! I mean, Star Trek isn't *real*, but, STAR TREK ISNT REAL!!" Quote of the channel right there.

How I long for a modern star trek series but with the same principals of the TOS, TNG, and ENT.

@yazanbaddawi9683

4 жыл бұрын

@Tom Griffiths sadly, we get woke pushing agenda like star trek discovery and a humiliated and ignored Picard. For the love of everything holy why?

@Robocopnik

4 жыл бұрын

@@yazanbaddawi9683 Follow your leader.

@gavasiarobinssson5108

4 жыл бұрын

@@kaylagray5834 Voyager wasn't

@compmanio36

4 жыл бұрын

@@kaylagray5834 LOL no they weren't. They'd have an episode or two per season that had an allegorical message related to a political issue of the time, like AIDS or gay rights, but they did it smartly, instead of shoving everything in your face and calling everybody who disagreed a "bigot" or "racist". It's a byproduct of the social media generation. You can't just tell a story about a topic you feel strongly about. You have to tell everybody about a topic you feel strongly about, and the story has to be twisted and changed to suit your agenda. There's a huge difference between the two approaches. The former makes you think, and the latter does everything it can to make you NOT think and react emotionally, and say "Fuck this show" There's a lot of people who have said "Fuck this show" to Discovery and Picard. And before you say "Good we didn't want them anyways", remember this is the audience you're trying to cater to. You WANT them to want to watch. Today's political agitators shoot themselves in the foot and then wonder they they can't stand on both feet, and blame everybody but themselves while they're holding the smoking gun.

@yazanbaddawi9683

4 жыл бұрын

@@Robocopnik who's my leader? I'm criticizing a TV show. I want the show to go back to its roots where peaceful exploration was the main objective, where the story made sense, not fulfilling a massiah complex, and a single person is the saviour of all. And before you go blabbering your mouth saying I'm a rightest or whatever, I'm not. Just watch discovery from the other point of view and you'll understand.

When I was younger, I found this episode truly unsettling, and, as on older person now, I find it perhaps even more so. The Q are intimidating with their power, but at least they are understandable, to a degree, with their motives, etc. and they manifest as totally human when communicating. Nagilum's face was just so...disturbing. So alien. A bit of the "uncanny valley" effect. Humanoid looking, but only just barely. It had a baby-ish look that creeeped me out. It's motives are so cold and alien, and everything about it's existence is a contradiction, even what it makes. The Yamaato is the Yamoto, and yet it isn't. The way it made utterly perfect replicas of Date and Troi to fool PIcard was errie. It's like they were exact replicas. Every single thing about the enitty is contradictory and frightening. I have a morbid fascination wth this episode, and the way it affects me, the way it spooks me, will always stay with me. One could go mad thinking of all the contradictions in the episode. "Is the absence of dimension itself a dimension" etc. It's a bit Lovecrafian in space, but even more alien than that, really.

Nagilum remains one of the most horrifying things in the Star Trek setting. The Q, while certainly more powerful, are more fascinating and less interesting because, for all their power, they are, on the whole, quite indifferent to the universe, given their state of being. However Nagilum occupies that weird space (no pun intended) of being very alien and powerful, but not so much as to be indifferent to what is happening around it. It is much like a god of greek mythology in this regard and more horrifying for it.