What is Engine Mapping and how does it affect a car's behaviour? | Plus Mini Q&A

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We hear a lot about engine mapping from the drivers and engineers. The driver will change engine maps throughout the race for different reasons, but what do these engine maps do and how do they affect the car?
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  • @RTRSPD
    @RTRSPD5 жыл бұрын

    Couple more of those vids and i am starting an f1 team

  • @drdoomgoat38

    @drdoomgoat38

    4 жыл бұрын

    Only a small loan of $500 million needed

  • @colinf3963

    @colinf3963

    4 жыл бұрын

    F1 2020 do be a pretty exciting game

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    @____-no3gn

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@drdoomgoat38 Not anymore, $150 million is the limit now.

  • @alejandrofrancis5530

    @alejandrofrancis5530

    2 жыл бұрын

    i guess Im asking the wrong place but does anybody know a way to log back into an Instagram account? I was stupid forgot the account password. I would love any tips you can give me!

  • @emorybodhi5753

    @emorybodhi5753

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Alejandro Francis Instablaster =)

  • @프레디khjfreddy
    @프레디khjfreddy5 жыл бұрын

    Already watched on Autosport but always watching it again! Can you make a video about suspensions and suspensions setups? Thank you so much for making these awesome videos!!!!!!!!!

  • @indianfox1

    @indianfox1

    5 жыл бұрын

    Same goes for me.

  • @sproutingpotato6963

    @sproutingpotato6963

    5 жыл бұрын

    I watch the video on Autosport but don't bother watching again. Videos are awesome, but not dense enough to require watching twice. I'm not sure they should be.

  • @anal2001

    @anal2001

    5 жыл бұрын

    Money money money but he deserves it

  • @spencertom2821

    @spencertom2821

    4 жыл бұрын

    Check donut media

  • @프레디khjfreddy

    @프레디khjfreddy

    3 жыл бұрын

    @An0n completely forgot this comment but I guess f***ing finally

  • @greenshell4082
    @greenshell40825 жыл бұрын

    I didn't know that you could tweak the power of the engine aside from fuel mixes. I thought it was just about applying certain pressure on the pedal but there's a lot more to it! Please continue to make complicated stuff easy for us people. :)

  • @juanmesa3829
    @juanmesa38295 жыл бұрын

    I think it's awesome how the illustrations you make help so much to understand everything, yet being so simple and intuitive!! Keep the awesome work coming!!! Would love to see a video about suspensions pleaseeee!!

  • @antburman
    @antburman5 жыл бұрын

    I rarely understand your videos but I find them utterly compelling. Thanks so much for producing them.

  • @kolokolok
    @kolokolok5 жыл бұрын

    I commented a week ago suggesting you slow your narration a bit, and you did. Thank you very much chain bear! :)

  • @anirudhvijendrautpat3127
    @anirudhvijendrautpat31275 жыл бұрын

    I learnt so much from this 8 min video. You are very underrated and deserve a million subscribers.

  • @livehumansinside19
    @livehumansinside195 жыл бұрын

    I love all the neat stuff that comes from this channel.

  • @SATO_FD2R
    @SATO_FD2R5 жыл бұрын

    Could you explain the limit that Renault gave Red Bull for their “Engine mode” on the engine near the end of the race? (Japan GP) It was on radio, when Max was behind Bottas? Is it regulated by the sport, the team, or the engine manufacturer? 🤔

  • @H18136

    @H18136

    5 жыл бұрын

    Renault will effectively tell the teams it supplies "you can put this many minutes on this engine on setting 7 and this many on setting 5. More than that and you run the risk of it failing and your race is over". It's advice from the engine manufacturer, but as a team you don't /need/ to adhere to it - it's not a rule that is enforced by anyone - just some advice from the people who build the power unit.

  • @pkscarr

    @pkscarr

    5 жыл бұрын

    basically ^ this. F1 engines are very precisly engineered for both power and weight saving, and just like your own road cars components will fail faster when driven too hard for long periods of time. This means that the engines reliability across a race weekend can often only be estimated, and the manufacturers give guidelines to the teams using their engines as to how long you can run an aggressively push an engine before it's risk of faliure becomes too high. The current rule limits on how many engines you can use per season as well really push the teams to follow these guidelines and conserve the engines as much as possible.

  • @MrHaggyy

    @MrHaggyy

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@H18136 and the base of the warranty of the parts. Beside Raikkonen did a good job at managing the distance. Even tho Verstappen got into DRS range he couldn't get into position to attack.

  • @UShouldReadABook
    @UShouldReadABook5 жыл бұрын

    Actually, in order to optimize energy saving against lap time, the ECU can control the torque delivered if maximum torque is requested by the driver (100% throttle). Furthermore, the torque is controlled by deciding on the torque split between MGU-K and ICE. There are several papers on that topic. So engine mapping is only 1 part of the equation with the current powertrain architecture

  • @gerardrodriguez6392
    @gerardrodriguez63925 жыл бұрын

    Awesome vid man, extremely helpful to understand with your explanation and awesome animation as well

  • @MiguelGarciaB23
    @MiguelGarciaB235 жыл бұрын

    I've done my final degree project about this with a real engine. When I get asked about what It consists of, I find it very difficult to explain it without using technical and difficults terms but my god you have done it perfectly.

  • @LordKirtash
    @LordKirtash5 жыл бұрын

    Excellent explanation, as usual. Thanks for sharing.

  • @rgarlinyc
    @rgarlinyc5 жыл бұрын

    Excellently exposited, thank you CB.

  • @ThomasNing
    @ThomasNing5 жыл бұрын

    I always watch on autosport channel where it comes out first, but I always come back to like and listen to the Q&A.

  • @timothyjohns3561
    @timothyjohns35615 жыл бұрын

    Is "party-mode" an engine mapping setting? Presumably, one that pushes the outputs towards the extreme edges of these maps, without killing the engine, or damaging it too much.

  • @joewilliams5057

    @joewilliams5057

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's what I understand of it.

  • @joshgeorge7

    @joshgeorge7

    5 жыл бұрын

    As I understand it it's more related to the interplay of the Hybrid drive unit, fuel mixes and ignition timing - things more managed by the ECU than necessarily related to throttle response.

  • @rjfaber1991

    @rjfaber1991

    5 жыл бұрын

    What such a mode is will depend on what the ECU is programmed like, but generally speaking, such a mode will push way more fuel through the engine than would be sustainable for an entire race given current fuel limitations, and most likely also completely drain the battery without bothering to charge it up again as you normally would. How exactly it directs the MGU-H I wouldn't know, and it is an interesting one, because there will be a sweet spot in using the electric energy, between driving the turbo to eliminate lag and making the combustion engine work as well as possible, and driving the wheels directly.

  • @rjfaber1991

    @rjfaber1991

    5 жыл бұрын

    +ISLAMATRON - I know there's a 100kg/h limit on fuel flow at any moment, but I think you'll find that if you try to push 100kg/h through the engine at all times, you'll get nowhere near the chequered flag in most grands prix, hence why I said fuel flow was higher than would be sustainable for an entire race...

  • @CTCTraining1
    @CTCTraining15 жыл бұрын

    This was another good one ... well worth a second watch.

  • @nawles1
    @nawles13 жыл бұрын

    You're channel is awesome. Great job.

  • @MukeshKumarYadav-dm2yl
    @MukeshKumarYadav-dm2yl Жыл бұрын

    You explained it in really excellent way

  • @ajaypathak8338
    @ajaypathak83382 жыл бұрын

    Excellent presentation... Thanks

  • @KeesRomkes
    @KeesRomkes5 жыл бұрын

    Love your work! Amazing!

  • @andreapontiero9631
    @andreapontiero96313 жыл бұрын

    Very Nice video! Definitely a topic to torque about!

  • @leprotto89
    @leprotto895 жыл бұрын

    Such a brilliant explanation

  • @Ravikumar_Sharma
    @Ravikumar_Sharma5 жыл бұрын

    Riccardo's engine doesn't need an engine map.

  • @danilocalic797

    @danilocalic797

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's treasure is lost forever.

  • @Ragsc

    @Ragsc

    5 жыл бұрын

    More like an engine post-it note.

  • @timothyjohns3561

    @timothyjohns3561

    5 жыл бұрын

    It has a map... back to the pits :)

  • @artistindependent4591

    @artistindependent4591

    5 жыл бұрын

    all inputs go to back to pit

  • @spencertom2821

    @spencertom2821

    4 жыл бұрын

    Milos

  • @turbotoblast4
    @turbotoblast45 жыл бұрын

    This explanation is incredible, and it goes beyond F1. Even our very own street cars ECUs work like this.

  • @pvtvega
    @pvtvega5 жыл бұрын

    Best F1 vids hands down

  • @appu95247
    @appu952473 жыл бұрын

    this video is too good ! great job

  • @vibhav_m
    @vibhav_m5 жыл бұрын

    Didn't watch this on autosport so i could watch it here. Worth the wait.

  • @havocspree
    @havocspree4 жыл бұрын

    Superb video!!

  • @chetanunindracusin664
    @chetanunindracusin6643 жыл бұрын

    Great job

  • @Mr77ethan77
    @Mr77ethan773 жыл бұрын

    Very useful video, thank you.

  • @ellisfield159
    @ellisfield1595 жыл бұрын

    Great video boss.

  • @timloos00
    @timloos005 жыл бұрын

    Very nice video

  • @ajay_c21
    @ajay_c215 жыл бұрын

    Pure brilliance!!

  • @EugeneChangEC
    @EugeneChangEC5 жыл бұрын

    Great videos. How about one on practice and qualifying strategies?

  • @sra7194
    @sra71945 жыл бұрын

    great content 👍👍 could you do a video on track design and history(why some are loved while others are boring, how they are designed etc.)?

  • @MrFlorianking

    @MrFlorianking

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sathwik Atluri I think you should watch the video’s about race lines and there he explaines what makes a corner a good corner thus an interesting trac. Maybe not Exactly what you ment but there is a beginning.

  • @sra7194

    @sra7194

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@MrFlorianking thx

  • @zorrothebug
    @zorrothebug5 жыл бұрын

    Hey chain bear 👋 Another very interesting video, thank you for your time and effort. In this video I had a first time of confusion while your explanations. @0:30 your drawing displays a throttle with arrows from the fuel tank to the engine. The combustion engine in f1 has direct injection, hasn't it? Wouldn't it be more precise if the throttle only controls the input air as the fuel is injected directly into the cylinders? Even in the audio you state the throttle controls air _and fuel _...? PS: never mind, you said "way back in time" overheard it, sorry 🙏.

  • @mohamedtouimer1797
    @mohamedtouimer17975 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. It is fully clear.

  • @TheHarDoze
    @TheHarDoze5 жыл бұрын

    i was waiting this episode for more than a year, i really couldnt understand enging maping ans start mapping before

  • @klevisnrecaj8786
    @klevisnrecaj87865 жыл бұрын

    Yaaaaay a new video!

  • @ioanduta9683
    @ioanduta96834 жыл бұрын

    It is 4 am in the morning, I am watching this video and I don't even have a car

  • @Unknown-3455gamer

    @Unknown-3455gamer

    4 ай бұрын

    Same ikr

  • @Tjezee
    @Tjezee5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks bear :)

  • @guillaumepages4429
    @guillaumepages44295 жыл бұрын

    very cool. thanks!

  • @n1ceHD
    @n1ceHD5 жыл бұрын

    Hello Chainbear, great Video. Could you maybe explain some of the setup work done on an f1-weekend and how the team behave with that? Is the setup available to the team-mate for instance?

  • @emilemartin5244
    @emilemartin52445 жыл бұрын

    Great vid again, I'm surprised you're not affiliated with F1 yet!!

  • @MY_DEEP
    @MY_DEEP5 жыл бұрын

    Can you please make a video of how teams get the position of thier pit boxes. Is it better to have your pit box at the beginning of the pit lane or at the end.

  • @Tushawnn
    @Tushawnn3 жыл бұрын

    Finally a KZread video that jumps right in without the 5 min waffling intro

  • @AM_ENGR
    @AM_ENGR3 жыл бұрын

    Hello, nice video. I have a question. On minute 1:37 you mentioned that the inputs for a simple engine torque maps are throttle percentage and rpm. The output will be torque. Is there any mathematical relation I can follow to manually calculate this example with your values (rpm=8500)(.83)(212 Nm)?

  • @FRailFan
    @FRailFan5 жыл бұрын

    I swear, the ending music still reminds me of the Grid Autosport theme.

  • @timbrigon7804
    @timbrigon78045 жыл бұрын

    Spot on

  • @lancey7879
    @lancey78795 жыл бұрын

    can you make a video on quali trim vs race trim, i have not found 1 video explaining this, thanks

  • @luisenriquemaldonado5680
    @luisenriquemaldonado56805 жыл бұрын

    Nice!

  • @ia3215
    @ia32155 жыл бұрын

    You’re a bloody genius! 😂

  • @ajscars1081
    @ajscars10815 жыл бұрын

    I saw it on autosport but I resisted watching it and finally made it here

  • @Shaun.Stephens

    @Shaun.Stephens

    5 жыл бұрын

    Same here.

  • @prevailinghope4284

    @prevailinghope4284

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lol, same. 😂😂

  • @stephenbritton9297
    @stephenbritton92975 жыл бұрын

    rich/lean at the end... now you get close to piston aircraft engine controls! :)

  • @cadelaide
    @cadelaide5 жыл бұрын

    Cheers CB! Great video. Totally demonstrates another way the driver matters in the end and how Hamilton is totally in the zone with his merc and no one could touch him on the Suzuka track.

  • @procactus9109
    @procactus91095 жыл бұрын

    Would it be beneficial to have dynamic mapping? Where maps change based off the next corner or bend.

  • @xavierandradev
    @xavierandradev5 жыл бұрын

    Does the ECU know about what gear the car is in? Can the maps be tuned for each gear?

  • @joviandesert
    @joviandesert5 жыл бұрын

    Chain bear can u do a video on Ocon and K Mag fuel related DQs

  • @lucasvdh1938
    @lucasvdh19385 жыл бұрын

    Great again. How do you know all this???

  • @MrHaggyy
    @MrHaggyy5 жыл бұрын

    Good video. But I think they don't have a throttle valve anymore as even a fully open one has a drag. I think they control the torque by the MGU-H as a throttle and a very low fuel mixture as they don't have enough fuel to slow down the engine by too much fuel.

  • @steruss9481
    @steruss94815 жыл бұрын

    What are your thoughts on the recently announced W Series?

  • @namga9943
    @namga99433 жыл бұрын

    I dont really good at English. But thanks for the video . It's amazing . Do you have an online class about the engine ? I want to learn more .

  • @aletrip642
    @aletrip642 Жыл бұрын

    Does the system also reduce the air intake along with the fuel?

  • @schievel6047
    @schievel60475 жыл бұрын

    Dont know about F1 Cars, but in a normal car it is air Filter > throttle flap > carburetor. This the line to the fuel tank is connected to the carburetor and fuel doesn’t hit the throttle flap, as ist enters the air later.

  • @umarshabbir4432
    @umarshabbir44325 жыл бұрын

    please do a video on f1 suspensions

  • @saschadavies2350
    @saschadavies23505 жыл бұрын

    Which driver in the lower formulas do you think could win the WDC one day?? And which drivers from other motorsports could win the WDC. Kinda cheating with 2 questions in one but just curious on your thoughts

  • @SonicSP
    @SonicSP5 жыл бұрын

    Do they switch to a different engine map when they are in the pit lane? Or do they use something else?

  • @rjfaber1991

    @rjfaber1991

    5 жыл бұрын

    I should imagine they do, yes. They could get away with just making the pit lane button a speed limiter, but any engine manufacturer worth their salt will try to incorporate some sort of engine mapping there that finds a balance between using as little fuel as possible while in pit lane, while keeping engine temperatures within the window, and the throttle response sharp enough for a quick getaway from the pit box.

  • @christophermichael8010
    @christophermichael80105 жыл бұрын

    CB, do you think tyre wars will happen again within the next 10 years?

  • @Aereto
    @Aereto5 жыл бұрын

    Note to self, a too high of a engine torque results in wheel spin if tire grip cannot handle the force taken.

  • @fruitcake4t
    @fruitcake4t2 жыл бұрын

    can it be remapped to make it more economical?? increase mpg?

  • @No-Limi-GiAnni
    @No-Limi-GiAnni5 жыл бұрын

    I need program for remapping !

  • @mrj3217
    @mrj32174 жыл бұрын

    This would be great for the f1 game .

  • @jorgehermosovalle3275
    @jorgehermosovalle32755 жыл бұрын

    Great videos! Can you make a video about racing tracks design? And what considerations should be made to design a "dream track" that is fun and complex. And if there are some regulations like max cornering angles, or max lenght on a straight line, or total circuit lenght, etc.

  • @TheAshleyYoyo
    @TheAshleyYoyo5 жыл бұрын

    Already seen this on autosport. Why bother coming back here to watch it again? 😳

  • @amwartwork
    @amwartwork2 жыл бұрын

    who made you that font? #

  • @ralphivan6093
    @ralphivan60935 жыл бұрын

    Chainbear could make a 30 minute video about rocks and I would throw away everything and listen

  • @chainbear

    @chainbear

    5 жыл бұрын

    How did you know what my next video was??

  • @sja45uk

    @sja45uk

    5 жыл бұрын

    Chain Bear F1 - this video did not cover party modes or expected life of an engine. Given that Red Bull / Honda changed an engine early, can you please cover a manufacturers' best options for the rest of the season! Is it ever worth using an engine for more than 7 races, or is it always better to take an engine penalty?

  • @PhO3NiX96
    @PhO3NiX965 жыл бұрын

    *How do you know all these things mate ??*

  • @mini696
    @mini6965 жыл бұрын

    Why do these appear twice in my feed all the time?

  • @goldenfloof5469
    @goldenfloof54695 жыл бұрын

    Imagine a control map that made driving the cars like a racing game with a keyboard.

  • @SD-ir1vf
    @SD-ir1vf3 жыл бұрын

    My new motorcycle comes with 3 different mapping plugs. I’m just trying to find out what they do.

  • @varunrao1704
    @varunrao17045 жыл бұрын

    How would they incorporate the 'party' mode settings? Is it just exclusive to the top 3 teams xd

  • @rileshacharya5114
    @rileshacharya51145 жыл бұрын

    You should upload here before you post at autosport ... I don’t want to give the views to Autosport But I watch here again ..... love your vedios ..

  • @alexthegreat7518
    @alexthegreat75185 жыл бұрын

    8:15 they'll be nuts if they do that

  • @OGSomeOne
    @OGSomeOne4 жыл бұрын

    While this basics are correct, the idea that the most torque is being produced at the greatest rpm is not right. Most engines don't work that way. This is why you have a torque/power band graph. The power band will usually cross the torque line twice. Once at the beginning of the power band's optimal low rpm output and again as the power band peaks out and output starts to fall. Usually, the tachometer is calibrated to red line shortly after the power band peaks because now you are over-revving the engine and this can cause damage.

  • @GijsBraam
    @GijsBraam4 жыл бұрын

    Is this basically what the formula e 'throttle mapping' penalties are being given for, or is that a different thing?

  • @kasparasstep471
    @kasparasstep4715 жыл бұрын

    #Maldonado2ToroRosso2019

  • @rjfaber1991

    @rjfaber1991

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well, I suppose it would be one solution to make F1 more interesting: Bring back the big crashes! :p

  • @Derpy-qg9hn

    @Derpy-qg9hn

    5 жыл бұрын

    Watch as Toro Rosso uses Maldonado to obstruct the other teams

  • @goldengodz1117
    @goldengodz11173 жыл бұрын

    Recommended to me the day Leclerc had engine mapping problems haha

  • @MrAsetgraffiti
    @MrAsetgraffiti4 жыл бұрын

    Louis Camilleri, the CEO of Ferrari, is also the chairman of Phillip Morris Ltd. So there you go.

  • @mvnorsel6354
    @mvnorsel63544 жыл бұрын

    I know I would be more popular down the pub if I remapped my engine, but no the engineers know more than me.

  • @sankhakarunaratne9697
    @sankhakarunaratne96975 жыл бұрын

    Sankha Karunaratne 18 hours ago Chain bear has seriously enriched my F1 experience to an extent that I don’t think I would have found F1 to be as interesting as I do now if it wasn’t for the knowledge I’ve gained through your Chanel. Thanks Autosport for collaborating with CB for this vid.

  • @ericsatria4873
    @ericsatria48735 жыл бұрын

    Why in my notification it says F1 Bingo instead of this???

  • @dnltbrca
    @dnltbrca5 жыл бұрын

    multi 21, Seb

  • @zzyzx0069
    @zzyzx00695 жыл бұрын

    I saw the AutoSport video and I said "Nein!!!" Open the Tubetube today and just like a crack addict needing a fix I kept repeating "where is it!!" Till I found.. SMASHED on the screen so hard my nail left a little mark on my plastic screen protector (don't worry it heals itself. It's like a gel coating so it will go away in an hour or so)

  • @eskilhr
    @eskilhr5 жыл бұрын

    Does the video have to go up on your channel after it does on autosport?

  • @shivprasadhosmani9621
    @shivprasadhosmani96215 жыл бұрын

    Can you tell me about the software’s used for mapping?

  • @vincentmehrlein3521
    @vincentmehrlein35214 жыл бұрын

    MULTI MAP 21

  • @adipramana7
    @adipramana75 жыл бұрын

    How are there day-old comments already

  • @CTCTraining1

    @CTCTraining1

    5 жыл бұрын

    Patrons?

  • @KingC-way425

    @KingC-way425

    5 жыл бұрын

    Because this video was first uploded onto Autosport's channel

  • @timothyjohns3561

    @timothyjohns3561

    5 жыл бұрын

    Patreon is how I got here a few days ago

  • @prayanklalan5138
    @prayanklalan51385 жыл бұрын

    Please excuse my ignorance here (I pursued my engg. in the computer science dept., not the automotive one). I was under the impression that the throttle controls the AMOUNT of fuel mixture (which is pre-rendered as one of the categories - lean, rich etc.) input to the engine, which upon ignition RENDERS the engine RPM manifested as the crankshaft rotations, which in turn are controlled by the gear ratios to output the resultant torque to the wheels. This video however makes me feel as if THROTTLE and ENGINE RPM are 2 INDEPENDENT variables of which the Torque is a function. I'll be obliged if someone could help me bridge the gaps in my understanding. P.S. - I did a basic Google search but was perhaps operating under a confirmation bias so as to make it to no avail. I thus, admittedly rather lazily, posted my query in this forum. I hope it finds a resolution here. :)

  • @grekiki

    @grekiki

    5 жыл бұрын

    Throttle-> fuel mixture->power=torque×rpm the torque/power then get's transmitted through transmission to the wheels.

  • @hightown999

    @hightown999

    5 жыл бұрын

    My guess would be that RPM is a Lagged function of Throttle, with this lag essentially meaning that RPM and throttle can be treated as independent for the mappings CB describes

  • @prayanklalan5138

    @prayanklalan5138

    5 жыл бұрын

    @hightown999 I suspect the same but can't find a credible source to definitely second it. If someone happens to quote a resource that addresses the exact question, then that would also be immensely helpful.

  • @autumnleaf2976

    @autumnleaf2976

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well that's what ECUs are for. Consider ECU as an intermediate tollgate between the throttle pedal and the engine. RPM will not build if the ECU mapping does not allow input signals from throttle, even if throttle pedal is fully depressed. So basically in terms of coding, ECU is a conditional operator like if else statement- if conditions are met build certain amount of torque (amount already marked in the map), else respond differently depending (that to marked on the map). I made it look like rocket science, hopefully it helps

  • @martinvanweperen7257

    @martinvanweperen7257

    5 жыл бұрын

    Rpm is a result of torque. Torque is a result of ignition timing and air fuel mixture (AFR). AFR is a result of throttle position and injector "duration". (Duration as in how long the injectors are opened. The longer they are open the more fuel is injected.)

  • @adabracadabra2402
    @adabracadabra24024 жыл бұрын

    Gentlemen, a short view back to the past. Thirty years ago, Niki Lauda told us ‘take a monkey, place him into the cockpit and he is able to drive the car.’ Thirty years later, Sebastian told us ‘I had to start my car like a computer, it’s very complicated.’ And Nico Rosberg said that during the race - I don’t remember what race - he pressed the wrong button on the wheel. Question for you both: is Formula One driving today too complicated with twenty and more buttons on the wheel, are you too much under effort, under pressure? What are your wishes for the future concerning the technical programme during the race? Less buttons, more? Or less and more communication with your engineers?

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