Cyberpunk: Cool laser shotgun Steampunk: Cool lightning hand cannon Diselpunk: *75mm Assault Rifle*

@gimmeyourrights8292

2 ай бұрын

Atompunk: I'll take all.

@Bucket_with_a_hat

2 ай бұрын

Atompunk: *Handheld nuclear warheads*

@TheFlyingSailorYT

2 ай бұрын

Solarpunk: Anti-Gravity projector that immobilizes someone for intensive negotiation and eventually psychological treatment, improving their life peacefully. NASAPunk/Cassettepunk: Railgun.

@leggotheeggodemon1323

2 ай бұрын

Punk Punk. Yo dawg I heard you liked punk so I put punk in your punk for when you go punkin 😎

@jhonnoilcringeincarnato8593

2 ай бұрын

Biopunk: quite literally a disembodied c¥ck

>Talks about dieselpunk. >does not talk about Iron Harvest or Generation Zero.

@vb1564

2 ай бұрын

iron harvest is hands down one of th ebest dieselpunk pieces of media out there

@Randomusername56782

2 ай бұрын

Isnt generation zero more like retro futurism?

@komradtheslav7913

2 ай бұрын

i was about to say that, especially in Iron Harvest and the scythe universe since all the mechs there were originally just farming equipment tech.

@titanfallgamerwithnotitanf8187

2 ай бұрын

@@Randomusername56782 kinda a mix between, There also is a tiny bit of cyberpunk. MAJOR SPOILERS BELOW: Since FNIX is like GLADOS in the way that the AI template was a human brain, it's also confirmed that a yet unseen side character was given a cybernetic leg by FNIX because of an injury she sustained due to her helping FNIX against the soviets.

@Randomusername56782

2 ай бұрын

@@titanfallgamerwithnotitanf8187 i see, I always kinda assumed generation zero was retro futurism because its set in the 80s and you mostly see 80s military equipment and appliances in the game. I always associated diesel punk with the WW2 and interwar eras.

“Atom Punk is just Fallout” yeah that’s probably the best way of explaining it.

@jetpilledmyron2056

2 ай бұрын

Thing is Fallout 1, 2, NV, 3 and Tactics Or 4 and 76 ?

@DarthAwesome117

2 ай бұрын

@@jetpilledmyron2056 Both are different faces of Atompunk, but are still Atompunk. Atompunk is less broad than Dieselpunk but as long as it has zany 60's-style tech and a general cold-war era vibe it's atompunk.

@D-Boy22

Ай бұрын

I think you could throw in Atomic Heart in there as a good exemple

@Kain01able

Ай бұрын

Never played, so im not sure if it even uses nuclear technology. Even if it downet, it dose seem to fit the general asthetic.

@ziongamer2919

Ай бұрын

@@Kain01able They do, they use ALOT.

Didn't mention the actual most famous Dieselpunk, like literally the image of Dieselpunk is Iron Harvest

@4epictime

2 ай бұрын

Underated game

@alexletiny5155

2 ай бұрын

​@@4epictimeabsoluteley, sad it got abandoned by devs after the whole "warmap" update

the metro game series is a great example of almost pure diesel punk mixed with the aftermath of atomic punk

@judsongaiden9878

22 күн бұрын

Plus, you fight both Red and Reich factions. Ever notice the RPD machine gun schematics throughout the Metro?

I'm a fan of Stonepunk/Sandalpunk. Stonepunk is essentially just Flintstones; everything powered by water, dinosaurs, wind, etc. A talking bird is your radio, a firebeetle is your lighter, torchbugs light the streets at night, which are traversed by mammoth "trucks", stedosaur schoolbuses, raptor taxis, etc. It's a neat concept.

@najlitarvan921

2 ай бұрын

Now i kinda wanna see a world where this is the case but replacr animals and dions with demons and body horror monsters

@SeanKula

2 ай бұрын

So basically The Flinstones?

@de_order703

2 ай бұрын

​@@najlitarvan921then you should check out HR Geigers stuff and the game Scorn. It's full of those biomechanical body horrors where something like a train railway is made from spines

@takumithao1992XD

2 ай бұрын

what about sandalpunk? is that like tactical turn based vietnamese resistance fighter or something?

@pablocampos5566

2 ай бұрын

​@@najlitarvan921 Scorn is like that

The Orks from Warhammer 40k definitely have a Mad Max inspired Dieselpunk aesthetic, especially their vehicles and walkers

@kellycrosby6062

2 ай бұрын

Your right but the orks don't use disale they use believing in something to work so yes but actually no

@josefstalin9678

2 ай бұрын

Genestealers have a similar aesthetic in some instances

@jetpilledmyron2056

2 ай бұрын

The AdMech are literal walking, talking, breat... ok, filtering Dieselpunk people cranked up to 11

@schlitzie72

2 ай бұрын

@@kellycrosby6062 that's a popularly misunderstood concept. The WAAAGH energies that masses of orks produce certainly does bend reality in their favor to a degree (such as vehicles painted red going faster), but some things keep even orks grounded to real world physics. An orks knowledge of science, engineering, and medicine is in their DNA which shows up in their weirdboyz (meks, mad doks, and such). They don't go to school or apprenticeships to learn these things, they just simply know it.

@jhonnoilcringeincarnato8593

2 ай бұрын

​@@jetpilledmyron2056the admech is more like a mix-and-match between dieselpunk, steampunk, cyberpunk and atompunk they're cyborgs using wooden stocked guns that shoot radioactive bullets, have gas powered tanks, robot horses, their Society is a feudal empire mixed in with industrialists and corporate vibes etc,etc

*sigh* the "punk" in all of these titles are meant to refer to the societal change and shift caused by the technology they refer to.

@tybkc

Ай бұрын

It's a reference to specific counter cultural movement of punk and the messages of freedom, self expression, artistic integrity, form over function and rebellion but like anything the term has been butchered to the point that people think that the "-punk" part of the name doesn't mean anything other than aesthetic like having your story include robot arms doesn't make it cyberpunk, no one on earth calls star wars a cyberpunk series

@DarthVador33

Ай бұрын

‘Sigh’ lol

@Talon19

Ай бұрын

That doesn’t seem to fit considering most -punk settings are well after tech development has halted.

@BlondieHound1

Ай бұрын

​@@Talon19 Except that they usually in the process of mass distribution in punk settings. How changes society. Or the problems arise from it. It's about how society actually adapts, or doesn't, to said tech. In many cases, it's about the exploitation of the tech by individuals that have society rocking effects.

@Talon19

Ай бұрын

@@BlondieHound1 Give some examples.

Atomic Punk is pretty cool too, even if Fallout is pretty much the only major example of that genre. I am kind of interested in how Diesel punk and Nazi sci fi stuff tends to intermingle. Even though they aren’t codependent. There's also Bio-punk and Nano-punk.....cause you know. My favorite things that are diesel punk though? The Bioshock 1 and 2, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, and Atlantis the Lost Empire.

@Ocelot835

2 ай бұрын

Idk, I think Atomic Heart can be sonidered as the second major one!

@FrostWolfPack

2 ай бұрын

@@Ocelot835 Very much what I have seen of it

@kerbal666

2 ай бұрын

Buck Rogers, Dan Dare and The Jetsons are pretty solid Atompunk

@gimmeyourrights8292

2 ай бұрын

​@@kerbal666 The Jetsons is retro-futurism. The "punk" part is usually something that challenges that.

@kerbal666

2 ай бұрын

@@gimmeyourrights8292 Exactly! But it wasn't when it came out. Make a grim version you get Atompunk. Same how gaslight fantacy became steampunk. Arguably you could say cyberpunk falls into re-fu because it its a vision of the future from the 80s. But yeah you're right about the punk suffix

The titans in Titanfall 1 show quite a lot of dieselpunk attributes. They have big exhaust pipes chugging out fumes and their structure is pretty bulky when comparing to Titanfall 2's titans which I'd argue, slot into the Nasapunk category

@burna.k.a.turtleonalog4327

Ай бұрын

I agree, but some of the titan designs in titanfall 1 looked more like old nasa tech in sort of a mix between moon landers and the big puffy spacesuits

@burna.k.a.turtleonalog4327

Ай бұрын

To me it seems like titans changed their design from titanfall 1 to 2 the same way that cars did from the older more curvy models to the newer models with sharper edges

I remember making an dieselpunk worldbuiling project when i was young, main inspiration of it came from the early 20th century aesthetic, blending militarism and cultural identity as the main theme. Since then i've also created a sequel for it, imagining what happend in that world after 100 years, taking inspiration from cold-war and military fantasy of metal gear solid.

Waiting for punkpunk

@mattrobson3603

Ай бұрын

I'm actually going to suggest FashPunk, where conformity and dedication to the State is the new rebellion.

@spawel1

23 күн бұрын

@@mattrobson3603 bourgepunk when

It was quite coincidental that this appeared in my recommendations right as I was drawing a dieselpunk dropship Zeppelin, lol. EDIT: I posted the WIP under my post spotlight on Deviantart.

@iliahgranovsky3400

2 ай бұрын

Fellow helghast

@RomanTorchwickRWBY

2 ай бұрын

im sure a lot of people would love to see that

@mickthick6170

2 ай бұрын

can you post it when its done plz

@gabemissouri

2 ай бұрын

@@mickthick6170 I will, I've Been procrastinating about finishing it because I have been spreading Democracy in Helldivers 2. I will post it on my deviantart account when I'm done.

@gimmeyourrights8292

2 ай бұрын

What's your Deviantart account called?

Only critique I’d have is trying to expand it too much, genres have effect bc they’re limited, if u try to put everything in then it no longer counts (I’d say dieselpunk has 2 requirements, aesthetic being one, but the critiques of militarism and fascism being just as important)

@robbagel54

2 ай бұрын

In the same way that pro corporate cyberpunk isn’t really cyberpunk, idk if pro war diesel punk is rly dieselpunk

@Discriminator

5 күн бұрын

​@@robbagel54Pro corp cyberpunk is either cyberprep or post-cyberpunk. The best examples I can think of rn are Toaru Majutsu for the former, and Ergo Proxy for the latter.

if you really want a decent example of diesel punk then you gotta try out HighFleet it is by far the best examples of diesel punk I've come to find

@Buster-McTunder

2 ай бұрын

A game? I’ll have to look it up. Also based pfp

@JMonkey7575

2 ай бұрын

@@Buster-McTunderany updates? What did you think?

@orsiz7687

2 ай бұрын

@@JMonkey7575 bro forgor

The battle block music Goes hard

For anyone interested, I strongly recommend the artworks made by Keith Thompson for the diesel-punk and biopunk novel Leviathan.

Demonpunk definitely needs to be a mainstream thing now. I can’t get enough of doom eternal’s aesthetics

First stumbled upon diesel punk when i watched sky captain and the world of tomorrow as a kid. I very quickly jumped into 40k after that. Cold iron will always beat neon

I love Steampunk due to it's aesthetics. In my stories Steampunks are the leaders in social and cultural advancement. They don't have the problems of cyber and diesel punk. But instead they live in harmony, almost like solar punk. Using the power of nature to supply their power and technology to bring folks together.

@cooltuber13

2 ай бұрын

Steampunk is the defacto "quirky gimmick faction" in any fantasy game, plus its overrated as fuck, dont get me started on cyberpunk.

@santiagoperez3024

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, Steampunk are going to be very great at eco friendliness and making advancements, but it’s things like Dieselpunk that are usually going to be at war with someone (or themselves) that will force them to create new technologies to fight more efficiently (in a sense, still a dramatic waste of resources). It’s like, Steampunk are the scientists during peacetime and Dieselpunk are the U.S. Marines strapping 6 75mm recoilless rifles to a tank and calling it a bunker buster.

@user-sm4mi8ug9q

2 ай бұрын

​@@cooltuber13whats wrong with cyberpunk?

@JosueHernandez-nu5cp

Ай бұрын

@@cooltuber13so you hate it just because it’s popular?

True, dieselpunk is great. I personally think Edwardian era slightly fantastical europe is a a very underrated aesthetic/world. So half way between dieselpunk and steampunk, like right before or during ww1. Iron harvest has ww1 with mechs, and honestly the trailer to that game manages to achieve what i imagine tanks originally did. We are so dissensitized to horrors of history that a bit of fantastical igredients can bring the same feeling that real events did when experienced first hand without knowledge in hindsight. Also engine go whroom is always more badass than any of that electric crap

@AVC21-XC23b

Ай бұрын

I think the game Lies of P might fit this genre.

@KaineMikulas

23 сағат бұрын

Bioshock Infinite was a favorite of mine in this era

I stumbled upon Dieselpunk with the tabletop RPG system called Warbirds. VERY interesting type of game about being WWI/WWII style fighterpilots part of a guild set on another world where the carribean islands have been somehow transported into that world, floating high above a roiling depth made of combustable elements and even pressurized fuel in a gas form that can be harvested, etc.

@Buster-McTunder

2 ай бұрын

Is it similar to DnD/Cyberpunk?

@kinagrill

2 ай бұрын

No, it's quite different. other statpool format, it's like, if the era of WWI-WWII never happened but continued for an extra 100 years or so. With floating islands and warplanes and pirate-groups, each island a nation (like cuba, or the florida keys. etc.@@Buster-McTunder

@Buster-McTunder

2 ай бұрын

@@kinagrill oh I know what you mean as to the world being different I meant like is it the same kinda TTRPG game mechanics

@kinagrill

2 ай бұрын

ahh then no. different type of system. a bit more simple but not bad.@@Buster-McTunder

@Buster-McTunder

2 ай бұрын

@@kinagrill I’ll have to check it out

Finally, something about dieselpunk in general.

i thought i was watching a youtuber with atleast 100k subs crazy how underrated u are

@Buster-McTunder

2 ай бұрын

It means a lot, and i wish but the game is to make stuff I wanna share, numbers ain’t everything

@robertsummers3386

2 ай бұрын

I noticed that too. Only 718 subs!? This video looks way too good to have less than at least 100k subs.

Probably the perfect example for for diesalpunk; run on war, based on oil, fascist overlords, is that of 1984. While I know it's a bit of a cliche at this point, it still perfectly fits the bill.

I don’t think nootzies are indicative of Dieselpunk, as much as it is that WWII is the era in which the dieselpunk takes inspiration from. In the same way that Victorian England is not indicative of steampunk per se, but the most fitting and easy setting in which to introduce steampunk elements. Personally I always prefer my dieselpunk to be a more WWI flavor than it’s sequel. (misspelling to avoid KZread censors)

@xxdankmormonkushmasterxx9953

Ай бұрын

I think soviets are actually a better example of diesel punk aesthetic than the Nazis, they have that heavy torchcut and crude vibe to just about everything they made. Honeslty though anything WW1, interwar or WW2 era is prime diesel punk material but i feel the soviets capture the brutal heft the best

Looks like my searches finally caught up to me, working on a dieselpunk TTRPG.

tell me you're biased without telling me you're biased Buster:

@Buster-McTunder

2 ай бұрын

I mean… yes? 😅

Either way, The bad guys ALWAYS got the best uniforms...No wonder we like them!

@Chillseer

2 ай бұрын

omg, hi again!

My guy do I have a book for you. It's called Leviathan and it is not only probably one of the best books I have read but it scratched the diesel punk itch like there is no tomorrow. There is a grand total of 3 books in the set and I was hooked from the moment I started the fist chapter.

@limbonlegs1662

2 ай бұрын

YOOOO! I remember reading that series! It was totally awesome!

@stingray2223

2 ай бұрын

hell yeah! i didn't remember the name, but it's what immediately came to mind when i saw this video!

I really like dieselpunk, but i also really like the aesthetics of the Half-life combine

Ngl, I wish there were more dieselpunk games/media out there. The only Dieselpunk media that comes to my mind often is that funny comic about a group of red soldiers fighting an endless war against Blue, Yellow, and random mutants & bandits. Basically, the world is apocalyptic with a hint of Eldritch since in one of the comics, they seem to find "things" that are essentially Scps. But they don't care or they get killed, and the comic tends to move to another group of red soldiers constantly. Making us question "What happen to the previous red soldiers group?"

@Discriminator

5 күн бұрын

You unlocked such a memory rn. What was that comic called? I remember reading it like 14 years ago. Kinda reminds me of Girls Last Tour btw.

Man I hope you get 1k subs because you are definitely capable of making great content, well done and have a good one!

@Buster-McTunder

2 ай бұрын

Here’s to hoping, might be a minute before the next video but locking in for something more substantial

dieselpunk is cool but i honestly prefer biopunk, i just love how gross it all is

@Buster-McTunder

2 ай бұрын

This is also cool, I mean they’re all cool. Tyranids are dope

Peak diesel punk is whatever the 40k Orks in happen to be doing at the moment.

Good video, and a great summary on dieselpunk Just one small note to add: Wh40k isnt diesel punk, oil and diesel are only rarely used, if ever, and the aesthetic is quite a bit different from other diesel punk worlds. Also theres generally some sort of technological innovation in all punk genres, which isn't really a thing in 40k. So im not entirely sure if wh40k fits within the diesel punk, or any punk genre in general. Aside from that, great video

@oliverfilipp1017

2 ай бұрын

THANK YOU, I have been searching for this comment for 5 minutes and I totally think you are right, if that means.

@megamente7849

Ай бұрын

Well, the imperium and orks are totally dieselpunk, and those two got innovations too (very slow but there they are)

Iron harvest RTS game is also dieselpunk

@Buster-McTunder

2 ай бұрын

I think I’ve seen it, it looks like Sythe, right?

@jomonkey2758

2 ай бұрын

@@Buster-McTunderit is scythe, but under a different name

@jamespaguip5913

2 ай бұрын

@@Buster-McTunder yes

@jamespaguip5913

2 ай бұрын

@@Buster-McTunder what are your thought on the scrin from command and conquer and the zebesian from metroid series.

@Buster-McTunder

2 ай бұрын

@@jamespaguip5913 I’ll be honest I’m not familiar with either of those

Dieselpunk is my favorite genre of punk, Steam and cyber kinda fight for 2nd depending on my mood but Diesel will always catch my heart

Love the font in the thumbnail, can you share which one you used?

@Buster-McTunder

Ай бұрын

I believe it’s called “Jared” on the Pixlr suite

I disagree with a lot of the settings you tried to put into Dieselpunk. The reasoning just seemed too narrow in scope.

@Buster-McTunder

2 ай бұрын

The point was the demonstrate it can be as arbitrary or vague as anything; like you could call Cyborg a Cyberpunk character because…. Cyber even though the Teen Titans are certainly not Cyberpunk. Definitions (especially in this context) are totally arbitrary and subjective and up to the collective to come to a consensus on.

All the punks besides solar I can vibe with

@user-sm4mi8ug9q

2 ай бұрын

Solars pretty cool and hopeful

Other Diesel Punk ideas/titles that could have been mentioned are "Sky Crawlers" series, "Valkyria Chronicles" series, "Last Exile" (though less diesel in these last 2, but they still follow the fossil fuel idea with a use of 1920's-1940's tech), High Fleet, Factorio, and the last one I got is Foxhole.

As a 40k fan hearing your take on the technological stagnation of the Imperium, it... I want to correct you... Ah, fuck it. Not only did technology not advance much between the 31st Millennium and the 41st Millennium, it actually degraded. The people of the 31st Millennium were canonically more advanced than those of the 41st. This wasn't an accident on the writers' part, but rather, was a deliberate follow-up on the introduction into the setting, "Forget the power of science and technology, for so much has been forgotten, never to be relearned." Now, you present the hypothesis that it's due to constant warfare preventing technological progress, but no. That's canonically, and even logically not the issue. In fact, under normal circumstances, it would likely see the development of even more advanced technologies. And besides, the vast landscapes of blasted wastelands and battlefields that we tend to imagine are actually... Not that common in the Imperium. Yes, warfare exists throughout, but rarely to the scale and devastation that conflict between the majour factions of the galaxy may cause on a given planet (in fact, such planets that deal with such conditions have their own unique classification under the Adeptus Administratum as War Worlds). Rather, it's a deliberate stagnation caused by one of the factions within the Imperium. And while you made a close guess, it's not the Adeptus Ministorum/Ecclesiarchy (the primary religious institution within the Imperium) nor the Adeptus Astartes (the Space Marines). In fact, both factions are very keen on the idea of having better technology than they presently have. No, the real faction that causes the stagnation and prevents advancement is ironically the exact same one that makes the Imperium more advanced, maintains their technology, and introduces more advanced technologies on occasion; the Adeptus Mechanicus. They straight-up view invention and innovation as the most abhorrent sins imaginable, and they're the ones in charge of the Imperium's technology because no one else knows how to work, maintain, and repair it. They've banned such technological progress as heresies, and thus, the Imperium's only hope for technological advancement is through the discovery of STCs from the Golden Age of Technology, which admittedly, are actually really damn advanced.

I saw the title for a split second and thought it was a vid about dieselpatches

Known about dieselpunk for a while, a book series called leviathan introduced it to me. Don't know if it holds up

Despite its flaws i think that CoD Vanguard nailed the Dieselpunk aesthetics with its Gunsmithing, a shame the campaign couldn't keep up.

Dieselpunk in my opinion is basically a remix of retro-futurism. Retro-futurism is like that sweet wholesome Christmas song you hear every now and then, and Dieselpunk is heavy metal remix of that song. It's industrial, it's grimy, it's lived in and it's badass! Raypunk is the EDM version of the metal remix of said Christmas song. Cyberpunk is just pure dubstep.

I think dieselpunk and atom punk sort of fit together. Like if you look at fallout the vehicles (including power armor) may be powered by nuclear engines, but the tanks and vertiberds are so tough and thick that they could easily fit into a diesel punk setting, same with power armour just if it had been powered by gas. Same with some of the weapons, like the one that just shoots junk, or the artillery that the minutemen use or even the prydwen.

funny, this video came up when I was drawing a dieselpunk armor set

@Buster-McTunder

2 ай бұрын

It knows

@oliverfilipp1017

2 ай бұрын

This comment is underrated

Right of the start, wrong! NASApunk and Cassette Futurism are two different things. NASApunk is sci-fi with the aesthetic of what we had in space in early XXIc till now. A mix of touch screens, analog controls, cables. Basically, how ISS looks today. So, Starfield, and all sci-fi movies, where our tech looks like it hasn't advanced much in the last XX years into the future it takes place. Cassette Futurism, is sci-fi with the tech of 80s and early 90s. 100% analog, CRT screens, almost nothing is wireless, and if it is, it's the size of a suitcase. It's Alien, Blade Runner.

Dieselpunk is the equivalent of power metal lol Personally I prefer biopunk. The idea of GMO technologies scratches my itch for body horror, transhumanism, parasites, and nature. It seems to me to be a perversion of “being one with nature”. The Tyranids are a prime example of that as well as scorn. You could even consider the Imperium to have elements of biopunk with their extreme reliance on servitors and psykers. I first encountered the idea when I was playing bioshock as a kid and got the ability to launch hornet swarms out of my arm. In the Prophet reboot Sci-fi comic series, there’s a lot of GMO technology that are parasites that can heal people, act as a universal translator (like in Hitchhikers Guide to The Galaxy), living armor and weapons, and a bunch of minor stuff.

@jab9109

Ай бұрын

It's on the tamer side but Resident evil could also be biopunk. Or at least a prelude to one

I actually want to see more Arcanepunk, sure you can say any fantasy world is arcanepunk but arcanepunk is rarely known.

Would something like starship troopers count?

Well, I’m convinced. Thank you!

For me I think that there are in between periods for punk eras not mentioned much. Like how Teslapunk is the period between Steampunk and Dieselpunk as people move away from steam to electricity and the energy sources used to power electricity. Also, Steelpunk being an in between era between Atompunk and Cyberpunk as the war torn period and spycraft of the Atompunk era starts moving more toward the use of increasingly miniature and complicated electronics and equipment that will eventually lead to the hyper electronic based era of Cyberpunk. Good examples of Teslapunk would be games like Close to the Sun, and Bioshock Infinite as both games use elements of Steampunk and Dieselpunk with a hefty use of electricity and similar elements of designs of the post Victorian Era and up to the first world war. Good examples of Steelpunk would be movies like Robocop and the classic Terminator movies. Both have elements of Atompunk as there is some semblance of nuclear power being used still and it takes place in the late and post Cold War era. Also there are elements of Cyberpunk creeping in as both movies involve powerful mega corporations that have a high level of control and / or the ability to ruin the world, and there are increasing levels of things like computers, hacking, and early internet usage.

What are your thoughts on whalepunk?

@aleistergwynne

2 ай бұрын

It's not really a genre though. The only example of it is the Dishonored series of games, which are a blend of several -punk genres, namely steam, diesel, ocean, tesla, and (in the sequels) solar.

This does put a smile on my face

the Civilization Revolution music in the background caught me off guard...

Have you played Iron Harvest?

@Buster-McTunder

Ай бұрын

I have not but the comments have made sure to make me aware of it

I have realised that the punks are just the image that certain eras had of the future. Cyberpunk is the 80' future, neon lights, lasers. vaporwave. Atompunk, the vision of the 50' and the 60'. Diselpunk, the vision of the 30' and the 40'.

Brother. Your words are true. Great material. With one exception. DiselPunk is not better than other genres. It is equal to everything else. Popularity is not an advantage in this case. I love this genre too, more than many others, but it's not any better. It's like a box of crayons. You like the color black and use it the most, but it's still just one of many colors available in this box.

Got into Dieselpunk via Crimson Skies alternate history. Well worth checking out.

I think theyre both amazing Bit the image of a 75mm AT gun or a massive flak gun serving a dual purpose opening fire on Mecha is some of THE COOLEST things in Media

Everyone ALWAYS talks about the Victorian Era influence on Steampunk, but no one EVER talks about the Edwardian Era, which is arguably far more influential on the genera. Automobiles, Voice Communication, Electricity, Rigid Airships (as we know them), are all Edwardian Era

3:17 a 18ft long 20 wheel death machine

Remember that time Myazaki made movie where dieselpunk society tried to reactivate biopunk monstrosity and was stoped by girl from solarpunk comunity with giant bug from spe-evo ecosystem.

I am working on a dieselpunk world mixed with Frost punk environment mixed with renosonts area and the older wheel lock guns are mixed in with the fancy cartridge guns and I love the idea of prototypes

So mad max is probably one of the best exemples of dieselpunk

iirc in wolfernstein the flamethrower is literally called dieselgewerh (diesel rifle) or something

I was today years old when I first heard the term Dieselpunk. And I love it. Not sure I love it as much as I love Steampunk but I'll give it time.

@Buster-McTunder

21 күн бұрын

I just feel like there’s not a lot Steampunk has going for it outside of aesthetic, but if that’s your jam all the more power to ya!

Twisted Metal was the first game that came to mind for diesel punk

My vision of Dieselpunk is like Mad Max

Bro really cooked with this one

there are so many steampunk fantasy stories. now i want to see a dieselpunk fantasy story

@Buster-McTunder

2 ай бұрын

Off the top of my head I can think of Dishonored, I feel most of the time Dieselpunk is much further ahead technologically to not mesh with Fantasy as much, but it’d be cool

@mangounit9678

2 ай бұрын

@@Buster-McTunder bet. boutta make history with this story im throwing together

So Cyberpunk phrase was coined in the 70s and later defined in the 80s to mean Cyber = Technology, Punk = Rebel or more precisely Counter Culture. I suspect as the genre is finally becoming more mainstream (been a fan since the beginning) and expanding the meaning is broadening. But lets not water it down to much. I tend to stick to the format of X + Counter Culture, if it doesn’t have that then it doesn’t really fit the SomethingPunk. Take Starfield = NasaPunk, this is inconsistent, Starfield is just Scifi or Space Opera, there is no counter culture in Starfield… but then this is all conjecture you call it what you want, it’s all subjective.

Man your making me want a new Crimson Skies so bad right now

what was the steam punk game?

@Buster-McTunder

Ай бұрын

It was just a 3-d environment off KZread. I believe called the Natural Steampunk Museum or something like that

As one working on a diesel akin to *Wolfenstein* and *Warhammer 40k*, I can attest that I feel like we’re living in some twisted parody of a dieselpunk world. Ă.Ă

What exactly is the difference between a punk genre and retro futurism ?

@Buster-McTunder

2 ай бұрын

Punk can mean many things. If purely going on Aesthetic, Nasapunk and Retro Futurism are the same. But often Punk also means a rebellion against it, so say space pirates are antithetical “punk” of the regular NASA-inspired space tech. If that makes sense. -In my experience and or interpretation of Punk and narrative themes.

I suggest covering Biopunk, has even more interesting ideas.

What's the show at 1:28?

@Buster-McTunder

Ай бұрын

The Solar Punk? Is a Chibani Yogurt ad. Or milk or something I forget. The steampunk thing is Disenchanted on Netflix.

@sam_wilds

Ай бұрын

@@Buster-McTunder Wow. That animation goes hard for being part of an ad

Maybe a little biased, but I really like steampunk best. The machinery is elegant in design and function, can be just as much art as it is practical. There's sense of optimism, the feeling you can do literally anything if only you can fashion the right machines to help you. It's when tech still had the aura of man-made magic, before everything got chunky and drab as in dieselpunk, and we felt things could only get better and better. Then things like the Titanic disaster and World War 1 happened, and it all came crashing down to earth. Guess I'm a sucker for shiny brass and copper trim...

@trilby3447

2 ай бұрын

I do think there could be a bit more grime to steampunk, while the Victorian era high societ and fashion are mesmerizing and very nice it is also when the Industrial Revolution was occurring, when factories were becoming a big part of society but safety standards where not fully realized yet, child labor was a thing, and class divide

@Shipwright1918

2 ай бұрын

A lot of that is still with us today in the real world, and a lot nearer to home than most might realize. I like to be a craftsman, to create, and in dieselpunk the creations always seem to be built in the service of war, and in cyberpunk the soulless mega-corps' bottom lines. Solar and nasa punk, everything is either from the Apple Store or from Radio Shack respectively, it has no soul and half the time you've no idea how it even works. In steampunk, you build an intricate automaton to serve tea just because you can. You work with steam, and any steam engine is about as close as we've ever gotten to imbuing a machine with the breath of life itself. Grit's there in steampunk, just ask any stoker or mechanician, but to my mind the harshness and grittyness can get depressing when it's overdone, to the point where it's misery porn ala Warhammer 40k lore (and I happen to like 40k, oddly enough. Just wouldn't wanna live there!).

I mean the Aether CoD Zombies verse is mainly inspired by WW2 Conspiracy theories and Lovecraft

I wonder if Angel Notes would technically fit into a Punk Genre, Angel Notes is a short story written by Kinoko Nasu and is one of his earliest published works, it pretty much started the Nasuverse In the setting of Angel Notes most Humans are highly genetically modified, the atmosphere is filled with Toxic Space Dust called Grain, and Humanity is at war with literal Sentient Planets called TYPE's, Planets in the Nasuverse all have a Will of their own and are literally Sentient, the strongest lifeform of a Planet is called a TYPE and functionally acts as a physical manifestation of that Planet's Will, the vast majority of their power is given to it directly by the Planet, TYPE's are practically the Planet itself The reason things got to the stage of Humanity fighting a losing war against literal Planets is because Humans basically killed Planet Earth entirely by completely depleting it of Natural Resources

Surprised Cimson Skies, Rocketeer, and Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow were not mentioned

I think it makes sense and is only natural, considering all of the classic dystopian books of the last century sort of created this theme

This is literally just Mad Max innit?

Dieselpunk and Atompunk are my favorites. The technology is so cool looking

Diesel punk sounds like a Mad Max prequel before it's atom punk theme now.

I want something dieselpunk with cold war asthetics.

Doesn't dieselpunk lose its identity, if you are stretching it so far that when a "complex chunky machine", "Nazi's" or a "gas powered chainsaw" is existant, thus it is dieselpunk? You might see it as a plus, though I find that to be a minus as that sounds like it waters down the aesthetic and vibe. Personally, I prefer cyberpunk (genre) for the message, the feeling, the realness it can have.

@Buster-McTunder

2 ай бұрын

This does apply to basically any of the Punks, which is true. But that’s why I tried to make the point that these definitions are as arbitrary as we make them.

You really forgot about dishonored as THE dieselpunk setting? Everything being dark, grimy and covered in wale oil... rats devouring people whole... everyone being in debt to a fascist state full of creepy elites... makes me feel at home.

@Buster-McTunder

2 ай бұрын

I honestly have no idea how I missed this, Dishonored goes hard

@sadservitor5362

2 ай бұрын

@@Buster-McTunder another fun mention would be the Fire Nation from Avatar. Hypermilitarised, warmongers, industrial style war machines, rivets everywhere. Only thing missing is the diesel itself, but those combustion engines work pretty well with magic fire king fu.

I think another good example of Dieselpunk is the Metro game series

Interesting that there's no mention of the Metro series, in which any resource which can be utilized is the means of control. Diesel? Well, that's just a luxury.

I've been working out what besides NASApunk or Cyberpunk we could specifically apply to the recent past, and I ended up with Electropunk. Electronics everywhere, but not necessarily wireless. Most devices and appliances are either plugged in or have batteries. An obsession with better conductors and batteries. Nuclear, solar and wind pick up to bolster failing grids, overburdened by huge populations. Large weapons, even gunpowder ones, will at least have computer targeting, and some Direct Energy Weapons and railguns appear. Landlines are the Internet for the most part, the modem noise is everywhere in internet cafes, the computers all are grayish tan, with accents of tannish gray. Cell phones have texting, but only a T9 keyboard and no touchscreen. Thematically it's a crossroads, whether or not to move forward into cyberpunk or backwards into deiselpunk. Enforcing a more rigid government system that spies on you vs relaxing it so corporations will, just for profit. Typically pre-apaocalyptic, with authority figures obsessed with the status quo.

@Buster-McTunder

2 ай бұрын

Todaypunk

I also think that there are multiple definitions of Dieselpunk here. Buster is stating that Dieselpunk is dystopian while I read from the author of the TTRPG, Tomorrow City, that Dieselpunk blends the optimism of Steampunk and the cynicism of Cyberpunk. So take this video with a grain of salt.

Atom Punk is up my alley. With a hint of Diesel Punk mixed in. Like cars and generators.

I think Factorio is also quite dieselpunk in a very interesting way. The long and short of it is that you crash on a planet, and have to build a rocket to escape. Of course, there's a long chain of automation that precedes even being able to construct the rocket launchpad. The buildings and vehicles are all very fitting, even the electric mining drills, accumulators and nuclear reactors have that gritty, not built for looks vibe. Everything is some level of greasy or worn, but I think that the core gameplay fits both types of dieselpunk perfectly: on one hand, technology, industrialisation and science are your salvation; but if you choose to not play on a peaceful setting, you'll eventually have to defend yourself when the local fauna comes knocking on your factory's door, which turns the player into the opressive nazi-esque force of the more dystopian style of dieselpunk, with tanks, automated turrets of various types, miles-long artillery trains, etc. Just look up "Factorio Big Bertha" and tell me that's some form of dieselpunk.

The genre-punks all ask “what if the pasts ideas of future technologies came true, but never evolved where it was societally”

great vid👍👍👍