Everyone wants to know “what is woman?” But no one asks how is woman :-(

@christiankalk4668

Жыл бұрын

And the greatest philosophical question of them all, WHY is Woman?

@eatshitlarrypage.3319

Жыл бұрын

Those are all great questions, but you're forgetting the most important of all: *When* is Woman?

@twylenb

Жыл бұрын

And you know Matt Walsh and these conservatives aren't good critical thinkers because they never ask"Where is a woman?" If they did, they'd realize how many women are avoiding them.

@olioliravioli6619

Жыл бұрын

Hold on guys, I don’t even know one basic thing: *Where* is woman?

@shelbypowell9919

Жыл бұрын

@@olioliravioli6619 Woman is everywhere. Woman is even right behind you right now

Nobody asks what a man is because Dracula clearly states "What is a man? A miserable little pile of secrets! But enough talk... Have at you!"

@thekwjiboo

Жыл бұрын

A symphony of the night reference deserves infinite thumbs up.

@azukar8

Жыл бұрын

Dang it, beat me to the punchline! Well done

@VicViper1984

Жыл бұрын

"What is a man? A miserable little pile of BUUULLLLLLL SSSSHHHIIIIIIIIIIITTT...."

@1sdani

Жыл бұрын

A man is a featherless biped.

@aazhie

Жыл бұрын

XDD the moment I transitioned, I gained my miserable secrets. It was beautiful

Ask Matt Walsh what an adult is. You’ll find he’s suddenly a whole lot more nuanced.

@smellycat57

Жыл бұрын

or ask him what consent is. He really likes talking about the nuance of that.

@zachnesmith

Жыл бұрын

@@smellycat57 It's all just so gosh darn confusing....to Matt.

@anthonydelange4128

Жыл бұрын

🤦‍♂️ yeah cause theres 2 types of adult One thats over the a certain age or a metaphorical meaning someone is independent ... mocking him like that is pretty shallow

@smellycat57

Жыл бұрын

@@anthonydelange4128 Matt believes age of consent is flawed. He thinks that dating someone under the age of 18 is ok as someone older.

@bippityboppityboo3848

Жыл бұрын

@@smellycat57 pedophila is ok when conservatives do it.

7:47 On that note, no one is complaining about the sexualization of children when a children's book has a story featuring a boy or a girl who has a crush on someone of the opposite gender, but they complain to the moon and back if the story features someone who has a crush on someone of the same gender. Ridiculous.

@emectric1455

Жыл бұрын

Oh yes, the owl house

@anthonydelange4128

Жыл бұрын

Not Matt though he sees the real problem

@bippityboppityboo3848

Жыл бұрын

If you teach Bible in sunday schools that's what you expect.

@bippityboppityboo3848

Жыл бұрын

@@anthonydelange4128 his problem would be same sex, so chill down mate.

@007kingifrit

Жыл бұрын

homosexualism is a social construct. we don't want to put harmful ideas in kid's heads. but being normal with a boy and a girl is a biological construct and thus shouldn't be avoided

This question of "What is a woman/man?" was one of the first things we tackled in philosophy 101 in college. The professor was the one asking the question, but, unlike the interviewers in these videos, took the time to point out how nuanced and hard to pin down something can be. From there we went on to writing an essay on "Why am I?".

@ramigilneas9274

Жыл бұрын

Nuanced answers are totally fine… but refusing to answer any questions or getting defensive immediately only makes your position look very weak. I would really like to see the full interviews just to see if any selective editing was going on there(like in the dishonest Ray Comfort videos)… but I am afraid that it would make those "experts“ look even worse.

@TSDTalks22

Жыл бұрын

@@ramigilneas9274 I've seen the full scene (at least the interview in the beginning). This clip was after the professor had just provided a several minute long explanation of the nuances which Matt Walsh (the interviewer) completely ignored and mocked. So, the expert is only defensive in response to pretty aggressive "interview" tactics.

@cajunking5987

Жыл бұрын

Nope. Not hard at all. Adult human female.

@cajunking5987

Жыл бұрын

@@TSDTalks22 that’s because it’s a bunch of nonsense that doesn’t answer the question.

@TSDTalks22

Жыл бұрын

@@cajunking5987 I aspire to have the confidence you do in being so boldly anti intellectual

I posted on Twitter once asking if people arguing against transgender rights realized that psychology was a thing that exists, and that you can't know who a person is just by looking at them. The utter freak out reaction I got back showed me that no, no they don't. To a large number of people, everyone is exactly who they assume them to be based on their external appearance. It was very eye opening HOW MANY people thought that way.

@nio804

Жыл бұрын

So... whenever they see a woman they assume all kinds of things that may not be true and will get angry at the person for failing to fit into their box. They want to define people by these imagined "requirements" in order to justify their hissy fits. They want to define truth rather than discover it. That... explains a lot.

@adityapatil4489

Жыл бұрын

Leaving aside the gender debate, do you realize how wrong it is to judge someone based on their appearance and on your preconceived notions about them? Frankly, it’s scary for someone with social anxiety like me 😢

@nio804

Жыл бұрын

@@adityapatil4489 It's unfortunately somewhat hard-wired in humans; you have to actively cultivate awareness of your biases and "gut feelings" to avoid making bad judgements when intuition isn't enough.

@Inspirement

Жыл бұрын

@@nio804 (Edit: I reread your comment and you mentioned it being hardwired, which might also play a part, but either way.) I struggle with this a lot actually. I grew up in a pentecostal family in a small town in Sweden. Needless to say, there was no acceptance of queer people, and I'd barely ever seen a black person so all my exposure to people of other colours have been from mostly American media and all of the misrepresentation that entails. So now I'm in my 30s and living away from the influence of my dad, I'm constantly checking my biases on a nearly daily basis. Externally, I probably look like a "woke communist stereotypical leftist Scandinavian", but that's only after my gut reaction has been filtered through all of my conscious bias checks. I wish being a decent person who was naturally accepting of people different from me came easy but it doesn't. It's a constant work in progress. Maybe one day I'll get there.

@nio804

Жыл бұрын

@@Inspirement Don't be too hard on yourself; I don't think *anyone* is naturally just a "good person", and I don't think people have nearly as much control over their own choices as they'd like. Sometimes you just get dealt a bad hand due to factors outside your control and have more to work on than other people might. And having "bad" thoughts is not a problem by itself if they don't lead to bad actions. (Just as having good intentions doesn't mean you're necessarily doing good) I think recognizing that your biases exist and wanting to change yourself is the first step to doing it; another big one is changing your environment. I've found it effective to not even try to directly change my behaviour too much. Instead, I change things in my environment so that it's easier for me to be the way I want to be, and the behaviour changes naturally.

"What is a man?" Featherless biped

@007kingifrit

Жыл бұрын

proves too much, lots of other featherless bipeds

@ScepticEngineer

4 ай бұрын

An adult human male. Pretty simple really

@marksuper4920

3 ай бұрын

A miserable pile of secrets

@thawnyiminsan6077

3 ай бұрын

"BEHOLD PLATO's MAN" - Diogenes

@thawnyiminsan6077

3 ай бұрын

@@ScepticEngineer Male and man are used often synonymously. Define a Male.

You can ask “what is a metal?” To a chemist, it is an element that exhibits physical properties of hardness, conductivity etc. To an astronomer, it is any element that isn’t hydrogen or helium. To an engineer, it could also be an alloy And to a road worker, “metal” is sometimes used to describe rubble. And again, “what is a fish?” Biologically speaking, fish don’t exist because it’s actually three classes of animal, but culturally and socially, “fish” obviously exist. Does our cultural view on things rely stringently on a scientific definition? Just some thoughts.

@RealQuarlie

7 ай бұрын

I mean, they should atleast reflect reality. When it comes to actual humans, a way too simplified Definition can erease tons of living people who don't fit into the neat category

@zbigniewszatkowski530

4 ай бұрын

and when you ask a musician it gets quite nuanced as well :D

@MerelvandenHurk

4 ай бұрын

@@zbigniewszatkowski530 I was just about to say the same, but then I saw the original question was "what is a metal" and not "what is metal", and metal as a music genre isn't the type of noun that can take an indefinite article :') But yeah, even when we're talking about metal as a genre, definitions vary widely and there's no clear cut-off points _anywhere_. Especially because in music, there's nothing exclusive. There's nothing prescribing any specific song to commit to one genre and one genre alone without any influences from other genres, and most of today's genres are the result of people doing exactly that: mixing influences from different styles and genres to create new sounds. Guitar riffs in a lot of metal lean heavily on classical music in terms of musical theory, for example, and obviously rock was an important influence too. But where does rock end and metal begin? Is rap metal a kind of rap music with metal influences, or a kind of metal music with rap influences? None of it is answerable, none of it is clear-cut. And yet (and that's the most important part to the analogy), the words are still useful enough to have social utility, to be able to be used, despite there being no absolute or clearly delineated definition or set of absolute criteria. The word still functions just fine, and it still has loads of communicative value. There's no reason why "woman" needs to be any different.

@Narko_Marko

4 ай бұрын

Fish have distinct features that most people know about, you point at an animal and ask "what is this?" And 99% of people will agree if it is a fish or not. But with gender if all it depends on is how a person feels then no one will be able to tell which gender they are unless they ask and even then it has no bearing on behavior or physical features which kinda makes the concept of gender useless. This might be a good or a bad thing, I am not the one to say. I'm kinda looking forward to the future where there are no gender norms and we can all act and dress like we are in a video game but then again i think that a society functions more smoothly when there are some gender norms.

@farfetchdthegamer3810

4 ай бұрын

@@Narko_Marko Well, a large proportion (in fact I believe the main proportion) of trans people do choose to present as their gender, so people can generally tell at a glance. And quite a few people who present ambiguously give small signs.

No one asks "What is a man" because Dracula already answered that question

@tuntemon

Жыл бұрын

Dracula: [flings his wine glass aside] A miserable little pile of secrets! But enough talk! Have at you!

@EmpressLizard81

Жыл бұрын

@@tuntemon There are a lot of people here who have signed up for Dracula Daily, I see.

@LibertyFascism

2 ай бұрын

Can anybody supporting the trans bullshit say what a woman is without using the word or a synonym in the definition?

@IntergalacticDrifter

2 ай бұрын

What is a man?

Hey Forrest, from a struggling trans girl, I appreciate what you do. I know it doesn't mean much, but what you do helps people. Thanks.

@nickrondinelli1402

Жыл бұрын

This is just a fad and you should really consider not mutilating yourself for life. Get off the internet. How is your relationship with your father?

@redmakesartstuff9037

Жыл бұрын

Trans girls together strong !!

@Tcrror

Жыл бұрын

I wish people could just accept others for who they are. Especially the "conservatives" (fascists).

@hankvandenakker4271

Жыл бұрын

I HOPE YOU ARE LOVED BY YOUR FAMILY. I LOVE YOU... MANY DECENT PEOPLE LOVE YOU ALSO.

@ramigilneas9274

Жыл бұрын

@@Tcrror As long as weirdos like you call every conservative a fascist nothing can change.😂

The problem isn't with definitions the problem is that a large swath of our society just doesn't believe in facts or truth. They can't be swayed because it isn't about what's true, it's about what they think or believe is right. :(

@chrisw9534

Жыл бұрын

And what is the truth?

@Vic2point0

Жыл бұрын

What do you see as "the truth" then? And is it based on objective reality or just what someone "identifies as"?

@manorui100

4 ай бұрын

​@@chrisw9534 dressing as the opposite gender doesnt make you the opposite gender. Mutilating yourself doesnt change your gender.

@daverobson3084

4 ай бұрын

Well culture is what we collectively decide that it is . If we, as a cultural group, decide that gender is a construct, then it is. That means that a century ago, a "woman" was definitively the same as a "female", and a " man" was the same as a " male". If we decide otherwise now, then it is otherwise now. Even if the " nuance" makes things less cut and dry.

@gide5489

4 ай бұрын

@@Vic2point0 If you have a prostate problem, you can identify yourself as a woman but you will still get up often at night to urinate. You will have the answer thanks to one of your organ since your brain doesn't seem to work

Matt’s videos feel like those Philomena Cunk interviews but they’re actually serious

@Someone-sq8im

4 ай бұрын

Do not sully the good name of Cunk

@lizzybeary

Ай бұрын

She's the best! 😂

I posed a question to my mother a couple weeks ago along these lines. “What’s a book?” Something you read, she says. “So, a sign is a book?” She clarifies that you need to open it to read it. “Then a newspaper can be a book?” This went on for a bit. With her now understanding the nuance of defining something, I asked, “What is a woman?” She gave me a look. (My mom watches Fox News and the like, so she now knew what I was referencing.) Why should a woman be easier to define than a book? Anyway… I appreciate you pointing out that “adult female human” doesn’t shut down this matter. To confirm the use of a synonym, I will look up a word’s definition and then look up a word used in said definition to get a more complete understanding. The fact that bigoted folks are unwilling to do this makes them seem kinda lazy, no? Can’t be bothered to dig a little deeper. I suppose that explains Ben Shapiro’s belief that “wet-ass p-word” is a concerning medical condition.

@ramigilneas9274

Жыл бұрын

A definition that includes 99% of all books is probably just a few sentences long. If you want to include 100% of all books you will ironically have to write a book that includes all exceptions. But those definitions can also work by exclusion… so you can make a list of the traits that books don’t have or what isn’t a book. So I am not sure how it is supposed to be bigoted to notice that the definition "A woman is an adult human female“ obviously excludes males.

@Damien-oi4vv

Жыл бұрын

@@ramigilneas9274 I mean, yeah? That’s the point? But as you’ve hopefully seen in the video itself you then have to define male and female which is tricky. And sure, you can come up with a definition that fits 99% of books, but if you see something that belongs to the 1%, do you suddenly consider it to be not a book anymore? If the definitions can’t account for exceptions, you don’t have a definition, you have a vague description.

@KangMinseok

Жыл бұрын

Forrest Valkai is completely dishonest. Not only was the additional definition of "female" in relation to gender identity added UNDER PRESSURE from progressives THIS SUMMER, it also doesn't make ANY sense, because it refers to "an internal sense of being male, female, a combination or neither". That makes the definition CIRCULAR! "A female is a person who senses they are female." makes NO SENSE! What are these people sensing, that they can birth children? EVEN IF I were to grant you that answering "What is a w" is complex, the fact of the matter is this: Words convey the meanings we as a society ascribe to them. You know which meaning we have collectively never in the history of the word ascribed to it? The meaning of male sex. That's why words like "Women's Hospital" make sense (why specify it if sex were not an inherent meaning contained in the word). EVEN IF I would grant you that we can't easily summarize all the meaning that is conveyed with the term "Woman", we know what meaning is NOT conveyed by the word.

@KangMinseok

Жыл бұрын

@@Damien-oi4vv Exceptions to a rule do not invalidate the rule. Intersex does not invalidate the existence of the two sexes.

@ramigilneas9274

Жыл бұрын

@@Damien-oi4vv Not really… if a definition doesn’t account for some rare exceptions then it can still be the best definition that we have, so it doesn’t suddenly become totally useless. But to me it sounds like that’s exactly what people imply here… if a definition doesn’t account for some rare exceptions then it’s worthless and somehow means that it also no longer applies to things that it did account for.

I'm already a trans ally, but Forrest does such a good job at making me become a better one. Thanks for putting in so much work, Forrest!

@eatshitlarrypage.3319

Жыл бұрын

Your support is heavily appreciated.

@BigFatWedge

Жыл бұрын

Ya know what they say about trans allies… 😏

@asherikamichaela8425

Жыл бұрын

@@BigFatWedge That they're good people...?

@drmantistoboggan2870

Жыл бұрын

What is a trans ally?

@Xsyven

Жыл бұрын

@@drmantistoboggan2870 Someone who stands up against bigotry towards trans people.

Thanks forest. I actuality learnt a lot, and while you may think the nuance is obvious, it isn't. I really think you should do a few more videos on this. All we see over the internet are people asking what a woman is and learned people stumbling over the answers, I've not actually had anyone explain the why and how's like this. So I appreciate this.

@Draco19970125

Ай бұрын

The question is : why do they stumbke over answers, when a woman is an adult human female, what even a child would know?

They use this question in the same way that a _"Chewbacca argument"_ is used. A Chewbacca argument is when somebody says something nonsensical and pretends that the disorientation it generates proves something about their opponent. Except in their case, they are demanding a (brief) WRONG answer and then claiming victory when somebody tries to give them them the (longer) correct one.

@Nerobyrne

9 ай бұрын

it's so funny to me that Southpark came up with this, but lawyers now use it to refer to an actual type of argument ^^

@sakuraice22

6 ай бұрын

I was on Roblox a while ago in a LGBTQ+ hangout experience and this one kid showed up, asked what a woman was, waited for 10 seconds, then called everyone idiots by not answering, and left. Typing, everyone was typing, but the kid left before they could send their messages.

@reubenmanzo2054

6 ай бұрын

If you watch Matt's film, he's not demanding a brief answer, he's just demanding a non-circular answer. By his own admission: "I never asked for a simple definition, I just asked for *A* definition, any definition, some kind of meaning. You can give me a complicated definition, that's fine, go ahead, try me. I'd be totally fine with that."

@MossMothMyBeloved

5 ай бұрын

@@reubenmanzo2054 That's a meaningless statement if he doesn't even try to listen to the longer arguments.

@reubenmanzo2054

5 ай бұрын

@@MossMothMyBeloved Again, he's after a non-circular answer. If you can provide such an answer, great. Take as much time as you need.

Hey Forrest! I'm a trans girl who was recently outted to my family. This video is gonna be a very important resource for me organizing my thoughts to them when I see them in person. Thank you for the work you're doing for us here

@palfly1864

Жыл бұрын

hope everything goes well for you, stay safe out there

@eatshitlarrypage.3319

Жыл бұрын

It's always rough discussing the topic if you're not ready for it. Good luck! I'd suggest also checking out Forrest Valkai's guest spot on the Atheist Experience on the subject as well, since it also goes into some good detail about it.

@paulinxm8201

Жыл бұрын

That really sucks, I'm sorry for that and hope you'll come to terms with your family, and also hope you have good friends to count on. But I'd like to ask some questions as a guy questioning his gender identity that still doesn't totally feel like a girl: how was the process of discovering yourself? Did it just click for you like for some people or was it something gradual? How did it affect your view on things around you? I would really appreciate your help, and even though my good wishes for you and your family won't do much, your self discovery journey would probably change my life forever.

@johnfitzgerald8879

Жыл бұрын

What do you mean by "girl"?

@benf6822

Жыл бұрын

@@johnfitzgerald8879 not a boy

I said it before and I'll say it again. Forrest Valkai is one of THE most important teachers of the modern era.

@HenrythePaleoGuy

Жыл бұрын

Sure is one of them!

@heribertosarmiento1265

Жыл бұрын

Agree 100%

@doloreslehmann8628

Жыл бұрын

Well, I guess you can't say that often enough. The world would be clearly better off with more teachers like him.

@pagjimaagjinen9733

Жыл бұрын

Nah

@risky_busine55

Жыл бұрын

This video aside (not because it's not informative, but cuz I've had to learn all of this before as a trans person who constantly has to defend their identity) I've not seen a single video from Forrest where I haven't learned and actually understood something new. Genuinely a fantastic teacher.

As a Trans Woman I appreciated this.

@Mikel-ep8st

2 ай бұрын

Hi, Sir. You are not a woman. Don't tell me, I am not the one who teaches you what you are or are not. You are simply not a woman, but fashioned like a woman. You are a cheater. You are harming the "REAL" women. Enough is enough, pull your hand out of women.

"An adult human with an internal sense of being primarily female." Yup, works for me.

@ThatisnotHair

9 ай бұрын

Internal sensation that doesn't accord with outer empirical reality i.e. delusion

@averyhaferman3474

9 ай бұрын

Doesn't work for me. You can't just say you're a woman. You're little genders are stupid and making then fluid makes them useless

@commscan314

9 ай бұрын

@@ThatisnotHair Eh, psychology is what matters with gender. How come all the therapies you claim to muster that aren't gender-affirming care do nothing to reduce gender dysphoria?

@callistoscali4344

9 ай бұрын

If you feel like your sex is female even though it is not, that does not make you female.

@sk8ermGs

9 ай бұрын

Na not for me

What IS a woman? Well, a human being, first and foremost, so let's respect her privacy and not go snooping in her underwear drawer, Matty Boy

@cajunking5987

Жыл бұрын

So all humans are women

@cajunking5987

Жыл бұрын

This silly bullshit is why it has to be asked, we all KNOW a woman is an adult human female

@joejohnson9499

Жыл бұрын

@@cajunking5987 All squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares.

@nobodynothing6551

Жыл бұрын

@@cajunking5987 not all. Some of them are trolls.

@cajunking5987

Жыл бұрын

@@joejohnson9499 what is a square? It’s a rectangle so shut up and stop asking. Gee thanks, now I know what it is

Can I just say that I really appreciate you, Forrest? You've managed to take biology, already one of the coolest subjects out there, and make it even more interesting. Your enthusiasm is infectious, and it's blatantly obvious that you love what you teach. Thank you for all you do. Love you brother.

@KangMinseok

Жыл бұрын

Forrest Valkai is completely dishonest. Not only was the additional definition of "female" in relation to gender identity added UNDER PRESSURE from progressives THIS SUMMER, it also doesn't make ANY sense, because it refers to "an internal sense of being male, female, a combination or neither". That makes the definition CIRCULAR! "A female is a person who senses they are female." makes NO SENSE! What are these people sensing, that they can birth children?

"It goes against my belief and I'm always right so therefore it's wrong" - this comment section.

This is great. Thanks so much for bringing up and making such exhaustive response.

Jessie Gender made a long-form video breaking down Walsh's foolishness. It unfortunately keeps getting taken down by KZread despite the fact that there's not a thing wrong with it...but if you can, I suggest catching it on Nebula, because it's brilliant!

@airplanes_aren.t_real

Жыл бұрын

I tried watching it on KZread but only got until the 15 minute mark before it got removed which is really sad because she made great arguments that I still use against transphobes

@wilkimist

Жыл бұрын

I was able to watch all 4 hours before it got taken down, she does a great job breaking every down, and understand her frustration with KZread taking her work to combat the hate promoted by Walsh.

@whatabouttheearth

Жыл бұрын

Seriously? That video has been in my feed for a month and I didn't look at it because I thought it was one of those schmucks like him. It's still up

@KittyKatalina

Жыл бұрын

@@whatabouttheearth That's only the primer. The full analysis is 4 hours long and was released last week. An edited version of it is set to (hopefully) release this Friday.

@eatshitlarrypage.3319

Жыл бұрын

I've been encouraging people to download ublock origin to block youtube's ads. If we want youtube to pay attention, we need to hit em where it hurts, and clearly they only thing they have EVER given a flying fuck about is money.

The portrait layout on the thumbnail led me to expect a short. I was very pleasantly surprised. Thank you for making your one response to this type of video so incisive and comprehensive - I can't imagine what more a second video could need to add to this.

I've been watching your chanel for a while now and holy shit, i wish i had people like you in my live. Keep being awesome.

Excellent video, thanks for keeping on keeping on :) keep up the great work!

What is a man? "A Miserable little pile of secrets"- Dr.Acula

@SomeOnlinePerson

Жыл бұрын

I like the way you attributed that. XD

gotta love the "basic biology" argument and then they melt when you bring up advanced biology.

@caecandy

Жыл бұрын

Seriously. Do they demand chromosomal testing before calling someone a 'woman'? These people aren't half as clever as they think they are.

@utes5532

Жыл бұрын

Ultimately they'll just fold into a ball and deny the science. Because that science is "new" science made by supposedly biased scientists or scientists afraid of the woke mob so they made a bunch of lies up to appease the crowd. No, they can never point out the flaws in that science. No, they can never point to other peer reviewed research disputing that science. They choose ignorance because ignorance affirms what they already believed. Ironic coming from the "facts don't care about your feelings" crowd

@blacky_Ninja

Жыл бұрын

Not just advanced biology, also simple surgery. Most „biology“ arguments that weren‘t genetic were about the naughty bits, or the organs for breeding being present and functioning. Many people with the correct genetics are not able to breed due to health issues, or simply because nature hated them/loved them to not give them that. (Depends on the persons own perception of the matter of course which one applies)

@storyspren

Жыл бұрын

Most recently in "transphobes don't know biology" we have their anger over that alien library mascot with they/them pronouns, terfs got all "why is it genderless? It has to reproduce sexually, it's a vertebrate, not a slime mold" Of course forgetting that parthenogenesis occurs in some vertebrates, and that some slime molds reproduce sexually, and that an alien doesn't have to be exactly like an earthling, and that the alien in question is a library mascot intended to inspire kids to read and we don't need to think about how they reproduce, and that reproduction and pronouns are two entirely different things

@blacky_Ninja

Жыл бұрын

@@storyspren No, pronouns are a very important thing in our reproduction cycle. When humans want to breed they simply throw their pronouns at each other and BAM! Pregnant. And that kids is where babys come from.

I don't care whether or not I'll watch a video that'll save my life or the entire planet in the future, this one will always be my favorite, the way you put thoughts into words is very straight forward and easy to understand and I'm thankful that people like you exist

Matt Walsh will pick this up, do a stupid response to it, and you'll get all of his little incels running to your video and blowing up your dms.

@Tablespoonmischief

9 ай бұрын

So if men can identify as women then why can’t I identify as a hamster?

@cloyphishs1049

9 ай бұрын

@@Tablespoonmischief you can identify as what you want, but pretending that the social construction of gender in humans is at all even remotely similar to the fact that different species exist is just disingenuous and an attempt to change the subject.

@Tablespoonmischief

9 ай бұрын

@@cloyphishs1049 Gender is not a social construct. Gender roles are social constructs. And if gender identity is separate from sex then we’re just admitting that gender is now make believe as it has no basis in external reality.

@cloyphishs1049

9 ай бұрын

@@Tablespoonmischief many believe it’s a social construct, I’m iffy about it. There may be some neurological basis to it (therefore, biological). I’m asserting that gender has social constructs associated with it, like you mentioned. Race is a social construct in the same manner. Would you also say that’s make believe? So is nationality, age, intelligence, and beauty. The difference between humans and other animals are our brains and how we use them. Communities are formed with commonalities. Men and women are real in society, and over generations society has constructed features which it associates with men and women (which you agree with). Gender and sex mean different things. If you don’t think they do, then stop using one of the terms and say sex is sex. We know that not even sex is binary, so if you’re reducing women to a set of sex organs, then the problem is you. So yes, being a trans person does not change the person’s assigned gender at birth, but it does shape how you view yourself in society, and how others view you. Let’s pretend for a moment that transfolk are just trying to be the “opposite sex” and that it’s all make believe. What purpose will that fulfil and to whose benefit? Why would you pretend to be something which will get you discriminated against to the point where sometimes you’re bashed, killed and r*ped? At the end of the day, you’ll have to ask yourself, what is the real opposition you have to trans people and how does it negatively affect others. When you can define that, we can progress further. If you, however, think that sex and gender are the same thing and the same concept, then we can’t move any further in this discussion because we fundamentally disagree.

@Tablespoonmischief

9 ай бұрын

@@cloyphishs1049 Race isn’t a social construct, it’s genetics. What are you talking about? Same as sex. Sex is based on biology. So you’re saying that gender is just based on how we feel. So essentially the trans movement wants to define gender as make believe, which means gender is useless in society. Because we can literally all have our own genders. Gender = personality. I say that what defines a woman is biology. You say it’s gender stereotypes. I believe that’s extremely sexist. You can view yourself however you want, it doesn’t change how the rest of society is required to feel about you. I have ZERO opposition to trans people, I have opposition to being bullied into accepting “science” that is BS and being forced to redefine how we use language.

I was listening to this video in the background and zoned out towards the end. My brain decided to focus up just in time to hear the words "boiling women down to their organs" and I was beyond confused. 🤣

@wintergray1221

Жыл бұрын

Not me jotting down a crime thriller plot. Writersareevil. 😈

@reubenmanzo2054

6 ай бұрын

Ironic that these people claim to not want to reduce people to their body parts, yet they have no problem calling women "birthing people" and "chest feeders".

@nuynobi

5 ай бұрын

Soup stock.

I've always been an ally, but I appreciate how Forrest gives me better and more fact-based topics and speaking points to arm myself with. There's a ton of hate out there and I believe it comes from a mountain of ignorance and fear. Having the scientific means to discuss it in a rational discussion is so wonderful and I thank you for giving me that ability better than I could just on my own. Your cheerful disposition while not letting BS trespass through fact is exactly what we all need.

@danpham333

Жыл бұрын

You need to distinguish between biological sex and gender identity. Biological sex is the sexual traits with no name. They just exist as is. After all, animals don't call themselves men or women. Gender identity is the label itself. It encompasses the name as well as gender roles and norms. For instance, a 2012 journal by Phadke, Cooper, and Zufall outline a species called Tetrahymena thermophila. What I learned from it is that it has 7 sexes and that each sex can mate with any but its own. Sex remains constant but gender is the term. Just like man and woman, we gave this species roman numeral names I, II, III, IV, V, VI, and VII. Now this might be easier to understand because we didn't attach social norms to it yet. But would it have mattered if we switched some of those roman numerals up when assigning them? Would it make a difference if we turned II into V instead or vice versa? No. We could have even given them alphabet letter names too. We can define man and woman. However, it is not as rigid as you think. They're just more open definitions. After all, definitions in general are descriptive and not prescriptive. They're there to help us understand the world not to assign names to things. They may refer to feminine roles or social norms for women or loosely refer to some sexual traits but it is not purely exclusive. After all, some people may still call themselves a woman even if they're intersex or have an XY chromosome but have Y deactivation. There are hundreds of sex traits and they can't neatly fit into two boxes. Much like how we have a discernible definition for fruit or veggie. A fruit can be defined, but is broad enough to encompass apples, oranges, etc. An element can be defined as the four elements air, water, earth, or fire. Or it can encompass the periodic elements. It can literally encompass absolutely everything, but we still have a definition for it.

Why dont you debate matt Walsh?

I love that you commented this, I keep getting ads of this thing and I hate it, even though it makes me curious to see the whole thing but just by tone of that guy I know it is going to be stupid...

I’m glad you’re tackling this. I’ve seen this online before, people saying stuff like “You can’t even define what a woman is, why should we believe you in anything you say”. It’s genuinely kind of annoying, as they clearly haven’t thought about it or researched the subject at all. There are some other videos that I’ve also seen (well, 1 really) about how “you can’t chose your pronouns” or something dumb (funnily enough, from Matt Walsh, like the video shown at the beginning, which is what I presume is the video you talked about ending up in your FYP). These people genuinely anger me and I wish they didn’t have a platform. Or at least, a platform as large as they do

@Chaosmancer7

Жыл бұрын

This "you can't choose your pronouns" thing boggles me. By this same logic you can't choose your name. Your name is Josiah? Sorry, I'm gonna call you José, you don't get to pick your name after all, I get to decide what your name is

@aristotlespupil136

Жыл бұрын

@@Chaosmancer7 but.. most people don't get to choose their name... their parents do

@Avrysatos

Жыл бұрын

The last time someone asked me what a woman is I said "I see why you'd ask me that. They're the people that refuse to have anything to do with you." He got mad, and said i was just insulting him, but why would i even answer a loaded question like that...

@Trombi01

Жыл бұрын

@@aristotlespupil136 You, in fact, can choose your name by changing it.

@Chaosmancer7

Жыл бұрын

@@aristotlespupil136 And yet if you wish to legally change your name, you can. And you introduce yourself, so you choose how people who aren't immediate family address you. And many people do just that, because it is your name, you decide what it is

I am almost 66 years old so I grew up in a different time. But I finally learned that homosexual rights are human rights. The homosexual population does not want special rights, they just want the same rights as everyone else. And since I learned that lesson it was not hard for me to learn that trans rights are human rights too.

@mpagirobin3805

Жыл бұрын

Whatever your daily activities are, keep at them because being 66 and still being able to learn something new is an actual super power.

@blackout8629

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for being in a older generation and wanting to learn and accept new ideas it means a lot to people in minority groups. So thank you and please keep learning.

@reubenmanzo2054

Жыл бұрын

If trans rights are human rights, as is the claim, then why the special tag? Why not just call them human rights?

@subductionzone

Жыл бұрын

@@reubenmanzo2054 Because they have been historically denied to them. In other words, trans people have the same rights that you and I have. It emphasizes the fact that they have been discriminated against.

@reubenmanzo2054

Жыл бұрын

@@subductionzone Historically? Where were they prior to 10 years ago?

As a trans woman, I just wanted to say thank you :)

@electroskates2434

Жыл бұрын

What is a woman

@wyvernscale9634

Жыл бұрын

​@@electroskates2434 woman :)

@reweiv

9 ай бұрын

adult human female@@electroskates2434 female is someone with xx chromosomes, ovaries, uterus, large gametes, increased estrogen and a vagina glad to help :)

@OGrandomunknownperson

9 ай бұрын

what is,@@wyvernscale9634 , a :)

@SuperCopyCat12

9 ай бұрын

​@@electroskates2434what is a chair

Just a thank you, again, from a trans person. I've showed this video to some people who were critical and whilst they never came around fully, they said it gave them something to think about. Which is a major step imo.

@marknieuweboer8099

Жыл бұрын

As a straight cis guy I don't get that people derive their identity from their genitals iso their brains.

@Ben-pp5tt

Жыл бұрын

@@marknieuweboer8099 All identity exists in the mind. However, when an identity is incongruous with what is physically real then the mind in incorrect. This is always true because what physically exists is a better representation of reality than what is going on in the mind.

@marknieuweboer8099

Жыл бұрын

@ Ben: one definition of stupidity is using the same tactic again and expecting a different outcome. You qualify.

@katieheys3007

Жыл бұрын

@@Ben-pp5tt someone doesn't understand the concept here at all. That's okay. There's plenty more material out there for you to watch so you can understand

@Ben-pp5tt

Жыл бұрын

@@katieheys3007 I didn’t expect a different outcome. I expected you to dismiss the point and insult me.

This is such a bada$$ video! Keep em coming Forrest.

You know, as a trans guy I've always struggled with that little voice in the back of my mind going "What if they're right? What if I hurt people by being?" and knowing that people like Forrest disagree with that sentiment is just so freeing. Thank you.

@rykehuss3435

Жыл бұрын

You are mentally ill, just probably not a degenerate, atleast I hope. Gender dysmorphia is a mental disorder, you feel like you were not born in the right body. There's dissonance between your self-image and your physical appearance and your biology. There's also a mental disorder that makes you feel like 2 arms is one too many for you, and you feel like your arm should be amputated for you to be you. Very similar to gender dysmorphia, but only one of these is entertained as perfectly okay and normal and yay hurray parade, while the other one is seen for what it is. A mental illness that needs to be treated.

@heyy1829

Жыл бұрын

Even if their "right" and trans peoole are not 'real men/women" and your just "mentally ill & degenerated" (which all just depends on arbitrary subjective definitions, so its just semantics anyway)... how would you then hurt people by being? Where is the harm in any of it? I think their playing the semantics game and pull up those fringe cases (like womens sports) to deflect from the point, that trans people existing do not harm anything other then their bigoted feelings

@ElloLoJo

Жыл бұрын

It’s fucking sickening that you’ve been made to feel that way “what if I hurt people by being” baby noooo never that’s horrible and so warped, god I’m disgusted by anyone who has created that discourse Please keep doing you, the world needs empathetic, complex beings, let’s create a better discourse for the next generation to believe about themselves

@NeroDefogger

Жыл бұрын

"what if I hurt people by being"??? tf? do you seriously for a second that made sense? like, I guess you can say that indirectly "being" means "doing" as like you can only "be" if you "do" but I still find it dumb to say "be" what hurts is obviously "doing", just existing is not going to cut people's extremities

@NeroDefogger

Жыл бұрын

@@mb207 well that people is dumb, just being can't hurt, is dumb

Thank you for everything Forrest

I had an argument with a coworker about trans people and social roles as a whole and he went on a whole diatribe about how much of a man he is. How he pays his bills and cares for his kids, etc. but you know what he never said? That he had a penis. Crazy how that works.

@EBDavis111

Жыл бұрын

It's also funny, because real men aren't transphobes.

@Vic2point0

Жыл бұрын

Because those of us who reject transgenderism understand that men typically have penises.

@EBDavis111

Жыл бұрын

@@Vic2point0 And yet when you people aren't paying attention, you unintentionally admit that gender is a social construct not involving genitals. As Wallfacer's coworker did.

@imthewallfacer

Жыл бұрын

@@Vic2point0 men typically aren’t little pussies who concern themselves with what parts are in the pants of people they’ll never meet

@Vic2point0

Жыл бұрын

@@EBDavis111 Saying there are different types of men is not the same as saying gender is a social construct 🙄Furthermore, that's simply confusing gender roles and norms with gender itself.

As a trans woman, this means so much to me. Thank you for making this.

@sunnywunny

Жыл бұрын

as a trans woman, I second this

@redrix1787

Жыл бұрын

As a trans woman, I third this

@ChloeIsNobody

Жыл бұрын

as a trans woman, I fourth this

@realtsarbomba

Жыл бұрын

As a gender fluid cd, I fifth this.

@lysmith2778

Жыл бұрын

As a trans man, I seventh this

Ok the table analogy is REALLY REALLY good. I haven't heard that before and I really love it. Def love Austin's vids. Forrest's as well of course 🙂

@neitsuke

8 ай бұрын

It's actually an awful analogy A table is man made : Ironically, a human construct. The reality of most animals falling under two categories for reproduction is not a human construct but a description we give to natural facts about sexual reproduction The argument does not even work anyway. A table was made by humans with an intended purpose. You can give a list of characteristics but tables do not need to follow a set precise characteristics to be labelled a table, as long it was made with the intent to be one in mind. You can have tables with four legs, or one that hangs from the wall Society, and in fact humanity, always has defined male and female, and man and woman in the context of biological realities : One impregnates, the other bears the offspring. Bringing philosophy and the fact that definitions are subjective and it's by necessity impossible to give a 100% definition to every single concept we observe is irrelevant to the usage of those words

First, I would like to say that I appreciate your videos. I am not a biologist and have learned much from your videos. I am in several debate groups on Facebook (I get bored 🙂) and reference your videos quite often. Most of the nut jobs that I have conversations with are dishonest and not interested in what is actually true, however, so I suspect they fear learning something and don't actually watch the video. I can't count how many times I have been asked by these people, what is a woman - never what is a man as you pointed out. I would reference your video on sex and gender but this is now my favorite video for that question. You are awesome. Keep up the good work!!

@nerojay2105

11 ай бұрын

"most of the nut jobs that I have conversations with are dishonest and not interested in what is actually true" The irony of this statement, ive asked several people in this comment section basic questions based on what you're advocating for and they run for the hills as soon as they dont have a pre prepared script to read from. There is a complete lack of critical thinking from anyone who believes this nonsense.

@jamesgardner6707

11 ай бұрын

This isnt his field of expertise, but go dig yourself a hole. I countered every one of his arguments. And yes i do enjoy his videos on evolution and basically anytime he debunks a creationist. But this isn't his topic, this topic has much more political and social nuance . Than his expertise

Anybody else have the absolute need for Forrest to do more videos on this? I have more questions now, more than ever. My brain is hurting. 🙃

@blacktigerpaw1

10 ай бұрын

A woman is an adult human female. You know what females are in your pets.

@DyHi_

9 ай бұрын

@@blacktigerpaw1that’s one definition, but there is also the fact that a woman can be someone with the gender identity of a woman as well. I should know, as I am trans. Feel free to ask any questions if you have any. I don’t know all of it, as I am fifteen, but I can answer as best I can. :)

@llofdarkwater9152

9 ай бұрын

​@@blacktigerpaw1​ - Well, my pet green frogs, and my pet ambon damsel, and my pet blue-banded goby keep changing. So, I don't always know what females are in my pets.

@blacktigerpaw1

9 ай бұрын

@@llofdarkwater9152 "I just don't know what the females are" What sex was the one who birthed you?

@Mysterychannel12

6 ай бұрын

@@llofdarkwater9152really ,how can you tell they keep changing??do you speak to them?I guess not ,you notice biological changes ,we don’t see those changes on humans ,humans are not frogs ,they cannot change sex,do you feel less stupid now?😂😂

trans ftm here, although i don't have the same experiences as trans women i really appreciate you sticking up for the trans community. you bring together two of my favorite things, safe spaces, and science 💜

@timwcronin

Жыл бұрын

🤗🤗

@sunnywunny

Жыл бұрын

SECRET TUNNEELLLLLL

@bewArcher

Жыл бұрын

Science!? hahahahahahahahahaha....throwing away biology and science out the window because it doesn't suit the agenda/ideology...sigh Go seek PROFESSIONAL help before you do something you'll regret later!

@sunnywunny

Жыл бұрын

@@bewArcher you're watching a video talking about science and claiming science doesn't support trans people go look at literally all of science or even just watch this video

@unlitcandle6922

Жыл бұрын

@@bewArcher bro says im throwin away biology and science when biology and science literally back me up 💀if your agenda/ideology on biology is true, then how come intersex people exist? they literally break the gender binary and essentially disprove any claims of gender being only classified by two categories.

common forrest W common walsh L

Thank you for you hard work!! 💯💪

I think that that misconstrues the argument. (Not that I like Matt Walsh, he's insane) However, take for example, a tomboy. They don't have typical female personalities, or follow female associated traditions or constructs. They're still women. You can't give a true and clear explanation of what a woman or female is. To be clear, I support anyone's right to identify as whatever they like. However, if you leave no distinction between sex and gender, the only shared characteristics between women is the fact that they are human beings. I agree there is a lot of nuance, but it works both ways. Women and trans women are different things, and that needs to be recognized.

@callistoscali4344

9 ай бұрын

The opposition is to gender ideology. If you agree that trans women and women are in different categories, just like tomboy and boy are different, then you reject gender ideology. You will get attacked, harass, opposed and condemned when you publicly reject gender ideology.

As Jessie Gender pointed out, Matt doesn't believe his stated premise. He claims "woman" is defined by chromosomes and plumbing, and yet he repeatedly shows through unspoken visual cues that he views gender not merely as descriptive but also prescriptive. When he speaks to his wife, she is shown in the kitchen doing traditional wife duties and needing a man's help opening a jar. He opens the documentary talking about how he can "see" that his sons and daughters are fundamentally different, and not once in that monologue does he cite chromosomes or plumbing.

@warped_rider

Жыл бұрын

"not once in that monologue" Well Matt Walsh may think about the fertility of underage girls a lot but I guess he draws the line at his own daughter.

@darrennew8211

Жыл бұрын

Needing a man's help to open a jar is chromosomes. Men have on average greater upper body strength. You don't have to look at someone's dick to notice they have a beard. That's why there is such a thing as beards.

@danielcrafter9349

Жыл бұрын

@@darrennew8211 - strong women don't exist? The Bearded Woman didn't exist?

@darrennew8211

Жыл бұрын

@@danielcrafter9349 What part of "average" do you not understand? Are you saying average women grow beards? Let me guess: you gave absolutely no thought to what I was saying, and dove in looking for any excuse to dismiss me, because deep down inside you know you're being unreasonable but it's now such a part of your psyche that you can't let it go.

@gaminggeckos4388

Жыл бұрын

@@darrennew8211 So... What about a trans woman that needs a man's help to open a jar? Is THAT chromosomes?

I mean, all words are made up anyways. You can be a woman and not have xx chromosomes. Just let people be themselves if it’s not hurting themselves, others, or the environment. ❤️ Edit: I do acknowledge and agree that words do have power, but they’re very flexible and the term “woman” applies to a beautiful diverse population, rather than having a singular meaning. ❤️

@chelseasherrell6277

Жыл бұрын

thats how i feel. as long as a person isn't hurting others or themselves or the planet, be what you want. i will admit though, i have unfortunately come across a few people who were just trolling this philosophy/lifestyle to just get attention and/or harass others. so i guess it can work vice versa in that aspect.

@chelseasherrell6277

Жыл бұрын

what i mean guys, is i suppose nothing and no one is ever going to be perfect no matter how they/we view things. bc that is just reality, everything in creation is flawed to some extent and that is also where the beauty in everything lies.

@ilonachan

Жыл бұрын

it is also USEFUL to call trans women women, and even to amend the definition if it doesn't allow for that (hence why dictionaries have done that). The whole transvestigation thing and intentional "oh this person looks like a woman, sounds like a woman, acts like a woman, but has pronouns so she- i mean HE is a MAN!!!1!1!one!!"... that's bullshit even just on a practical level.

@mindlander

Жыл бұрын

Getting called a transphobe for misgendering does hurt others. Trans women in sports also hurts cis women.

@airplanes_aren.t_real

Жыл бұрын

@@ilonachan reminds me of the weather guy in that one clip from "last week tonight" where he asks what a trans woman is and after hearing the answer he just starts screaming "THEN WHY DON'T YOU JUST CALL IT A WOMAN?"

i'm saving this video for whenever people try to argue against this, amazing video, thank you very much

Can we just appreciate that forest used the letter/symbol for micro to convey that this is a micro reaction 🤣

Ah, yes, a KZread short of 12 minutes. Great video, by the way.

Absolutely love this stuff. I could make a joke about 'facts and logic', but I think you get the picture.

Love seeing my pal Austin in a video by the renegade science teacher.

Love it love it keep on going Mr Forrest !!! ❤

Forest, you bring sanity and reason to our screens, and we appreciate it.

One of the things that I love about hearing Forrest talk about this issue, is that he appears genuinely puzzled that people can't see the beauty in the truth of the answer. If people like him are teaching the current generation then this will soon dissolve into an interesting discussion, not looking for a simple myth that doesn't require you to think. It seems to be mainly theists getting their knickers in a knot about what people look like naked before they can interact with them. Get over it people - it's none of your business!!

"its a more nuanced answer than is expected" is the correct answer to the trolls

@shanewilson7994

Жыл бұрын

Yup, the beautiful thing about the world is that its way more complicated than we generally realize and so many things are on a sliding scale rather than just simple black and white

@007kingifrit

Жыл бұрын

actually its a really stupid answer there is no nuance in what a woman is. it is a simple binary

@kermitthorson9719

Жыл бұрын

@@007kingifrit so what's your answer

@007kingifrit

Жыл бұрын

@@kermitthorson9719 a woman has xx chromosomes and is born with a vagina barring mutations

@kermitthorson9719

Жыл бұрын

@@007kingifrit ever heard of buck angel?

Is there a horizontal version of this video? Edit: I accidentally wrote vertical instead of horizontal at first 🤦‍♂

That guy is a joke. Glad you addressed him, Valkai

@chair547

Жыл бұрын

jokes are typically funny

@moe5177

Жыл бұрын

@@chair547 and jokes are often times unfunny

@LeelooMinai

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunatelly, he is a dangerous joke too.

@ramigilneas9274

Жыл бұрын

I don’t like Walsh… but he managed to interview lots of insane people who make him look very smart.😂

@SalisburyKarateClub

Жыл бұрын

@@ramigilneas9274 A one eyed creature in a group with no eyes is king

Another example is how 99% of the known matter in the universe is either hydrogen or helium, yet imagine how silly it would be to try to reduce everything in the universe to that binary.

@KaiHenningsen

Жыл бұрын

Hydrogen, helium, and metals - at least when talking to astrophysicists. To them, anything except hydrogen and helium counts as metals. (And we're carefully ignoring metallic hydrogen there, which is another thing that exists.)

@speciesspeciate6429

Жыл бұрын

Is that deuterium or am I thinking of heavy hydrogen? Is it the same thing?

@johnscaramis2515

Жыл бұрын

@@speciesspeciate6429 deuterium amd tritium are heavy hydrogen, metallic hydrogen is a state of hydrogen under extreme temperatures and pressure.

@wintergray1221

Жыл бұрын

@@johnscaramis2515 Can all gases be solidified into metal under the right conditions or is hydrogen unique? Seems like a cool sci-fi or dystopian thriller, an ecological disaster creating metal filliments in the very air we breathe, resulting in a bubble society.

@verybigbrain1

Жыл бұрын

@@wintergray1221 Metallic Hydrogen is called that because it becomes conductive under certain pressures and temperatures mostly this is in a solid form but there is a small band where this is also true for liquid hydrogen. This property of hydrogen only exhibits under extreme circumstance and has not been observed in other elements. All elements have gas, liquid and solid phases (these are the three most prevalent but not the three only phases last I checked I think we were up to 16 but the number changes depending on how you define a phase of matter and is an on going area of research) but depending on their properties the other phases might not be as achievable or even possible. Especially high pressure low temperature phases can simply not be achievable under know physics as physical properties become very strange at very low temperature as the quantum nature of everything leaks into the macro structure of things when approaching absolute zero.

Amazing work Forrest...❤️

Another great video !

9:55 I loved that video of your friend Austin showing how hard it is to define something. I spent a few years as a professional lexicographer and it is very hard to come up with a short single sentence to define anything as he shows with “table”. I remember seeing a poster showing various drinking vessels slowly morphing into each other to show at one end they’re mugs and at the other cups but in the middle people disagree which category they belong in. Yet another unclear supposedly binary option

@lifeontheledgerlines8394

Жыл бұрын

As someone who is potentially interested in becoming a lexicographer, what's it like? I've heard that it's very silent for long periods of time and a pretty lonely job despite being in an office environment, and I'm curious as to what your experience was as one.

@molybdomancer195

Жыл бұрын

@@lifeontheledgerlines8394 yes it was a very quiet environment. Even the phones hardly ever rang.

@XSR_RUGGER

Жыл бұрын

I think when you give specifics unnecessary to the definition of something you can create a spectrum as well. If you define a table with a specific building medium then you as the person defining it are narrowing it down to have to fit those parameters but are at the same time requiring other words in that definition to be defined or are excluding other things that could be considered a table because they aren't made of wood. That doesn't mean the definition of a table is a plank of wood and has four legs is wrong, it just makes it a bad definition. I am not a lexicographer though😅. Below is a definition off the cuff from my brain. If there's something to pick apart from it, please do. It could only make the definition better but also I could learn something. Table: A raised platform, usually flat, supported by legs or attached to a vertical support that is used for a variety of things including but not limited to, socially gathering, eating, drinking, arts and crafts, board or card games, etc.

@hengrave5

11 ай бұрын

Yes, I see there are nuances and many things are difficult to define. Would it be fair to say that if you asked people to 'show' you what a woman is, let's say by pointing to them in a busy street, most people would instinctively pick out the same individuals? There may be some small grey grey areas, in which case those individuals would probably not be picked.

@jimmy_xi9342

10 ай бұрын

It may be difficult to come up with a crisp definition of objects like table, chair, pen, water bottle etc but we all have a shared understanding what those things mean. That's why we continue to use those words even though it can be difficult to give a pinpoint accurate definition of those objects when asked.

As an agender person living with two trans women, thank you. That table analogy is super useful too.

@timwcronin

Жыл бұрын

Why is a massage table a bed? Or an operating table? Why can't beds be beds and tables be tables like they were when I was a kid!! 🤔 🤗🤗

@qynoi42

Жыл бұрын

@@timwcronin 😆

@DinosaurianDude

Жыл бұрын

@@risky_busine55 Reminds me of Diogenes of Sinope somewhere around 350 B.C. coming to Plato, who described man as a fatherless biped, with a plucked chicken shouting "Behold: a man!"

@risky_busine55

Жыл бұрын

@@DinosaurianDude lmao very much does

@BigFatWedge

Жыл бұрын

@@timwcronin On top of that, I hear that the Periodic Table isn’t even a piece of furniture!!! THE WOKE MOB IS TAKING OVER!!!1!1!11! 🤯🤯🤯

I've been sending these videos of yours to my dad to educate him on the topic.

You're awesome! And Austin Archer is a great creator too! Thanks for the great content!

@007kingifrit

Жыл бұрын

actually this smug video held up fake science and fake experts. gender is a religion. it can't be observed and relies only on faith to maintain itself. real science is observable

@eatshitlarrypage.3319

Жыл бұрын

@@007kingifrit You wouldn't know real science if it bit you on the ass.

@Gurfbagel

Жыл бұрын

@@007kingifrit at 3:30 he says "scientifically speaking, sex and gender are completely different things. Neither one is binary, and gender specifically is a social construct." So gender is made up by humans and people who argue there are only two genders are just as silly as the people who argue that the god they believe in is the only true god and the thousands of other gods believed in other places are not. Science is observable, you got that right.

@007kingifrit

Жыл бұрын

@@Gurfbagel you admit gender isn't real, but ignore the wider implications of that that there is no such thing as anyone who is trans

@Gurfbagel

Жыл бұрын

@@007kingifrit You're so close. If society didn't have genders then Trans people would just be people. They wouldn't have a gender assigned at birth so they couldn't have the wrong gender assigned at birth. But because society does have genders Trans people get mistaken for the wrong gender simply because of how they might look on the outside. People are people, why do we need to assign gender roles to them? Just let people live their lives and they'll let you do the same.

I’m a trans girl who kida got kicked out cuz my parents refused to let me exist in the sane air as them. And your videos are amazing, if only I could get my parents to watch them 🤣. You can give someone education but u can’t fix the unwillingness to learn

@eatshitlarrypage.3319

Жыл бұрын

And they claim they give a shit about children. So fuckin typical. Sorry you had to go through that, girlfriend.

@paulinxm8201

Жыл бұрын

That's so common, and it makes us ask ourselves why. They wouldn't do this if you were born a girl, so why would they do this when you discovered you were supposed to be a girl? Why are people so weird to the point of doing this to their own kids? It's real sad, and we can just hope your life is better now.

@WolforNuva

Жыл бұрын

Damn, sorry to hear that. Wishing you the best moving forwards. It's astounding how people get so rooted in their bigotry that it overpowers what should be one of the strongest bonds between humans; parent and child.

@timwcronin

Жыл бұрын

🤗🤗

@d3pr0fundis

Жыл бұрын

I hope you’re well Mama. It’s very disturbing to realize how conditional a parent’s “love” can be. Some people are incapable of love and I’m hoping you find and build your own family that is actually worthy of you.

LETS GO IM SO PUMPED EVERY TIME YOU POST!!

I think Miriam Webster defining female (adjective) as opposite of male, and male as opposite of female, is quite problematic (definition 1b). I'm surprised the dictionary got away with it really, they're avoiding the answer in a very nice way. Now I know I removed the word identity from this definition so I'll put it back… female is having a gender identity that is the opposite of male”. But this has the same problem if we equally define male as having a gender identity the opposite of female. ie: it simply becomes "female is having a gender identity of female". Now combine that with the (1a) definition, and female is either a) the sex that typically can bear young or produce eggs, or b) having a gender identity of female. So (b) remains circular. c/d/e/f/g don't help either - they're all circular, defining female as related to females, girls, items typically used by girls etc. Female (adj) Definition 3 simply describes male/female parts, where physical a male thing fits in a female thing, so obviously using sexual anatomy in that one. Female (noun) definition is equally useless. a) a female is a female person. Woman or girl. b) capable of bearing young (like 1a above). The anthropology book then doesn't define a woman, but defines gender. Which is a cultural construction of behaviours appropriate for each sex but can't be predicted by the biological sex of the individual. This is useful and if we use this sex vs gender differentiation it becomes easier to define things. These are different things - and as different things the implication is that if a form says "gender" a trans woman would tick "female" but if it says "sex" she would tick "male". This would be an important distinction if she is going in for kidney surgery or whatever - but I've never seen forms done this way and I think they would just increase confusion. And if in conversation the word "woman" (and pronoun "she") can refer to sex OR gender then it raise a problem of dual meanings. Using a single word for two different things is easy when they align. We generally seem to be following gender (not sex) for he/she, while if you’re seeing a doctor the biology is more relevant (and we have debates about women’s pro-sport and dating). But again, the text you read then goes further and says anthropologists question the assumption that humans come in only two biological *sexes* with gender roles built on those 2 sexes... and that how we experience our bodies is culturally shaped. I don't think he meant we literally have hundreds of different physical sexes (like a muscly man is a different man to petite man, perhaps?), but it immediately removes the clarity of sex vs gender as a biological vs social construct (but the passage then switches back to biology vs culture in the next paragraph). The anthropology book as quoted doesn't describe what a woman is either... just gender. So female identity is still left as identifying with female culturally constructed traits, which still circularly defines female as identifying with female things, where those female thing are probably not related to biological female things. And it's a dangerous area, because if we went out and defined those female things I believe that'd be sexist too, because they're not biologically related. All that said.. once gender is accepted purely as a social construct, it seems to reduce to a multiplicity of personality traits. I personality don't want to be defined as 1 of 2 culturally constructed traits, I don't fit either stereotype, so fine I'm 1 of 100 genders, which I guess relate back to the big 5 personality traits, and my likes, and also societal stereotypes of what male and female should be (which is also different in the 2020s to the 1960s or 1800s). Even if we accept 100 genders it's still ignoring the spectrum and it is labelling ourselves (which I wouldn't do with starsigns or personality traits, but some people like it) and that makes us static. More importantly even with 1000 genders or a spectrum it'll still leave us all with the final "he/she/they" identifier we want used in every conversation about us that just perpetuates our adherence to a oversimplified cultural construct for others to unconsciously make assumptions from. Maybe EVERYONE should just be "she". Would that get rid of the problem? It might be easier. (And still needs the debate about what to say when seeing a doctor, competing in women's sports, and dating etc) [Damn, this is over a year old. I'd really like to sort out my understanding of the above and find some small or gaping holes]

I'm all for LGBT+ and their rights but am a little confused about the gender identity stuff. More so how there can be more than just a man or a woman? I've looked up different genders and most of them seem to just be someone who fits somewhere along the spectrum between man or woman. Why can't we just have man or woman but people behave and wear what they want? Why does there need to be a label put on a man wearing a dress and makeup? Going to the analogy that was shown in the video of the table and foot stall. It was the first time I've been given a good example of how man/woman is more complex than just 1s and 0s but then I started thinking more about it. You'd never question that a table is a table regardless of whether it had 4 or 6 legs or whether it was big or small. You know what a table is based on many factors. The same goes for how it's used, if you stand on a table to reach up high, is it now a step stool? But no one ever (that I know of) has called a table a step stool or changed its label just because it was used differently to the social norm. It's always just "I stood on the table". Thinking about it, I think what I'm trying to ask is why is gender different from sex? Yes, there is this social construct that says women should stay at home and look after the children, men shouldn't wear dresses or wear makeup, and women shouldn't be a mechanic etc but why does the social construct have to mean the label needs changing? I've been trying to find out what other genders there are but can only find lists of gender terms (maybe someone can enlighten me to other genders besides man or woman? Ik about intersex though.) but all the terms seem to mean the same thing. For example "Amicagender" where someone changes their gender depending on the friends they have is very similar to "Ambonec" A person who identifies themselves as both man and woman but does not belong to either. Aren't they the same thing? And what is Caelgender? From what I have looked up it's shares quality with outer space or shares the aesthetic of space, stars etc. So now I'm even more confused. Why can't it just be "a man or woman who likes things to do with outer space"? Why is there a label for people who like an aesthetic? And what are the behaviors do the people who identify as Caelgender? Don't get me wrong, I'm totally for trans people etc and honestly, this isn't directed at trans people, that's easy to wrap my naive head around but I don't get the gender thing whatsoever. You're either assigned male or female at birth depending on several factors and therefore you're either a man or a woman (even if you transition to the other sex). And If you are a man who likes to wear dresses or a woman who likes fast cars and works as a mechanic then so be it but why do we have to create labels for some spectrum? Maybe I'm misunderstanding what it means by behaviors of a gender idk. I understand I'm likely dumb but do want to wrap my head around the gender identity I'm just struggling when in my mind a male is a man and a female is a woman and how they want to behave, what they want to wear, who they want to have relationships with is entirely up to them and shouldn't be judged for it but don't understand why we need to change the label?

@mariomiceli9663

Жыл бұрын

All the "identities" outside of man and woman I've seen people describe on TikTok all boil down to personality traits. However, even ones who "identify" as a man or woman often justify it with their personality, whether feminine or masculine. The ideology is an incoherent mess that's detached from reality.

@mike309saa

Жыл бұрын

@@mariomiceli9663 That's how I view it too. It just seems to be personality traits but a label is put on it for some reason that somehow means someone isn't a man or a woman. I completely get people don't want to constrain themselves to the social constructs that we have in society but why create a label for it? Just want to be able to wrap my head around it.

@Ben-pp5tt

Жыл бұрын

@@mike309saa To be honest, you will never be able to wrap your head around it. It’s full of inconsistencies and contradictions. You’re absolutely correct. Every “gndr” outside of man and woman is either a combination of the two, the absence of the two, or something completely irrelevant to gndr, but labeled a gndr anyway.

My favourite answer to "what is a woman?" is "a featherless biped". It's not technically wrong.

@risky_busine55

Жыл бұрын

*holds up a plucked chicken* "behold a woman!"

@wintergray1221

Жыл бұрын

@@risky_busine55 In some states, you'd be right.

@risky_busine55

Жыл бұрын

@@wintergray1221 what does this mean?

@wintergray1221

Жыл бұрын

@@risky_busine55 I was implying that in the US, some people would agree that a chicken is a woman and proceed to...y'know.

@KangMinseok

Жыл бұрын

Forrest Valkai is completely dishonest. Not only does he not mention that the additional definition of "female" in relation to gender identity was added under pressure from progressives in 2020, it also doesn't make any sense, because it refers to "an internal sense of being male, female, a combination or neither". That makes the definition circular. "A female is a person who senses they are female." makes no sense.

Thank you Forest! Your videos are so good, and you seem like a genuinely lovely person!

You sir, have a new subscriber. Since you came up in my feed (recently) I've watched plenty (on different topics) and, enjoyed every one of them immensely. Keep up the good work.

The problem with these type of videos and questions is that they sound like a good question as long as you don’t think too hard about it. So at a glance they seem like a good argument or a good point.

I was reminded of my first philosophy class in high school. First thing the teacher asks is: what is a chair.

@Strange9952

Жыл бұрын

Oh please this is not the same thing as the gender situation. "trans" women get off on the idea of dressing up as a stereotypical woman. What "trans" woman do you know who doesn't? This is not on the same level of a philosophical debate of how we define things based on their use to us, this is a completely different issue. Sure you can say you "identify" as a woman, but what does that mean? Can you identify as a chair? I suppose you could, but it really comes down to how you define it, and at the end of the day it all becomes meaningless because everything is used in conjunction with something else.

@Fernando-ek8jp

Жыл бұрын

@@Strange9952 The point is that even things we consider to be simple and cut and dry still have space for nuance. What does it mean "dressing up as a stereotypical woman"? With regards to which culture? What historical context? At what age? What are the "stereotypical" female behaviors? Do they conform with anthropological findings?

@Fernando-ek8jp

Жыл бұрын

@@Strange9952 The last bit is quite important though: labels are what we make of them. Languages and meanings change all the time.

@nobodynothing6551

Жыл бұрын

@@Strange9952 by putting trans in quotation marks you are implying that they are simply women. Thank you. The idea that women enjoy being women isn't a new idea though. Shania Twain wrote a hit song about it. While it's clear your progressive take on women isn't as reductionist as defining them by what they can be used for, many people like Walsh do just that.

@arctic_line

Жыл бұрын

@@Strange9952 Hey, trans woman here (or well, close to my actual identity) and I, in fact, do not get off to dressing as a woman. I certain _enjoy_ those acts more when I am, but that's from being more comfortable in my body, and not because it's on its own sexually arousing. I know this because I will often dress up in feminine clothing when I go out, and that almost exclusively provides an emotional relief.

Thanks, Forrest! I personally appreciate this video - including the reluctance to engage with these people and the refusal to explore their videos further in your published content!

7:24 Well we know that already. "A miserable little pile of secrets"

"What is table" is perfect.

@007kingifrit

Жыл бұрын

yes, in that it has a clear simple definition and anyone arguing in good faith agrees

@ben5154

Жыл бұрын

@@007kingifrit I used a big flat rock as a table last time I went hiking.

@007kingifrit

Жыл бұрын

@@ben5154 then it was a table in that moment . though we would call it a makeshift table

@ezrakatz6742

Жыл бұрын

@@007kingifrit The point is that things are hard to define. And any definitions could be considered a philosophical question. What would you consider to be the necessary and sufficient conditions needed for something to be considered a table? It is not so easily answered. Requesting a definition is such a disingenuous and politically motivated question because the meanings of many words come naturally to us, but active definitions for most things are really quite difficult to construct.

@007kingifrit

Жыл бұрын

@@ezrakatz6742 things are not hard to define, the fallen institution of academia is full of pseudointellectuals making simple questions hard to inflate their egos

Loved this! Can't wait for the next In the Light of Evolution episode!

Hi forest I love your channel and I'm enjoying all the evolution videos you have been uploading recently I hope u continue with them

The orchestral rocket jump waltz started playing in my head when I saw this caue of how much more this made me respect him

Just curious... Has *anyone* asked 'what is a man' yet? 🤔 Anyway, while I appreciate the evolution of science and language, and the ongoing development in the understanding of what things are and how things work, reading modern definitions of things without a disclaimer identifying them as such seems a little gaslight-y to everyone older than Gen Z, who has no recollection of learning and/or using these (1b, 2c...) terms and definitions as they are spouted off today. I'm not saying that these updated definitions are wrong, but, does that have to mean that our older definitions were? I don't believe that. Perhaps they were incomplete or not as clear, but not incorrect.

@goofyahhh254

4 ай бұрын

Most people not just older, have no knowledge of biology or genetics because they are not scientists.

I love that he’s willing to speak what this actually is because transiphobes are really annoying with those kindof videos

@jameswoodland2719

Жыл бұрын

Republicans and what not don't hate the people, but the idea of transgenderism, which disqualifies them as transiphobes. The idea of giving children the right to switch gender so young, with surgery, is wrong. The idea males can go to woman's restrooms because it says woman and woman is a social construct is dangerous. And the amount of confusion kindergarteners get about sex and gender leads to tragic outcomes for their lives. I've seen it, people hoping genders and then wishing they never did it.

@cajunking5987

Жыл бұрын

Damn learn what a woman is than

@joseantoniovargas6548

Жыл бұрын

@@cajunking5987 Learn how to spell "then"....then

@cajunking5987

Жыл бұрын

@@joseantoniovargas6548 I do, only it’s not the word I tried to say. As the word I tried to say is than.

@joseantoniovargas6548

Жыл бұрын

@@cajunking5987 Ah, so learn when to use "then" and "than"? Because "than" is not the right word you should use in the sentence you tried to make

Matt Walsh is also one of those creeps that talk about teenage age beeing the best time to get kids... If you are already married. At 16.

@ramigilneas9274

Жыл бұрын

And he is wrong about that… the best time is at 20.😉

@thekwjiboo

Жыл бұрын

Walsh had a video I saw on Facebook titled "the 5 worst superheroes in the marvel cinematic universe". Before watching it I commented "I bet most, if not all of them are female". Watched it, sure as shit, all 5 were female. I replied to my own comment saying "it shouldn't have been that easy to predict this correctly".

@ramigilneas9274

Жыл бұрын

@@thekwjiboo 1: Captain Marvel is definitely the worst… no one likes invincible Superman characters. 2: Wanda is a close second after Multiverse of madness destroyed her character. 3: All of the Eternals, all of the Illuminati, all of the Inhumans.😂

@thekwjiboo

Жыл бұрын

@@ramigilneas9274 had he actually made reasonable arguments like that, it would have been different. But he's just angry that women can be cast as superheroes.

@ramigilneas9274

Жыл бұрын

@@thekwjiboo I mean She Hulk was just terrible… but Dr Strange and Wong are now also just incompetent idiots. But then again… phase 4 wasn’t that great so far. But who cares what Walsh thinks about super heroes? Maybe I should watch that video to see how bad it really was.😂

thank you for clearing my mind and make me look straight with definite answer on this topic. man, science is so fucking cool

@davidgraham8058

2 ай бұрын

There was zero science in this video.

Amazing video, your my favorite teacher forest.

Thank you so much for all you do. Educating people is so important. As the mother of a trans daughter, I appreciate you! This is such an important topic. It seems simple, but unfortunately misinformation and fear is real and terrible.

@titomister10

11 ай бұрын

You mean your son

@DyHi_

9 ай бұрын

@@titomister10are you 12?

@Tom-rd8dd

9 ай бұрын

​@@DyHi_no they are 5

Easy question, a featherless biped

Forrest, you say that neither sex is not binary, what do you think of Richard Dawkins saying that "sex really is binary" (Trans: When Ideology Meets Reality) ?

@jimmy_xi9342

10 ай бұрын

He knows that too but his ideology won't let him admit that fact.

@blacktigerpaw1

10 ай бұрын

He doesn't give a damn, because A) Forrest is not actually a scientist and B) atheists are stunlocked on the gender question.

You did it again. Can you link the clip where the person responds in the way you described?

you are by far the best educational channel i have seen on youtube, not only in the important topics you discuss, but your way of discussing them is extremely informative yet still allows a sense of personal freedom to make a decision, highlighting the nuance in the topics you speak of. your videos always brighten my day :)

@YSFmemories

Жыл бұрын

you mean like how 1/6th (the first two minutes) of his video is dedicated at attributing malice to the other perspective and claim that we're all doing it out of mal-intent? As if the question is so obviously ridiculous, that no one with half a brain would ask it; instead, if we were to not understand the concept of gender because it simply does not exist in our language (like Chinese), we should just magically be able to understand it and know exactly the right questions to ask in the exact right way, not just trying to figure out "what do you mean by a woman if not a biological female?"

@theterriblemonarch

Жыл бұрын

@@YSFmemories yes, because I believe that in this case where this is asked is to purposefully make the other person appear “stupid”, if the question is being genuinely asked then I, and I assume most people, have literally no problem with it as it is a discussion worth having and everyone’s opinion is worth sharing and hearing out. This is especially the case if someone genuinely wants to learn what a different or new definition to what they previously perceived, I believe this is an educational video designed to do just that. However, this video is a very well structured explanation of an opinion based on factual evidence and real application both of which are presented for easy comprehension, those who do not take into account that this is both an opinion and educational are hypocritical as they are not listening to his opinion while complaining that their own opinions are viewed as “wrong” or “not listened too”. If you’re going to watch the video sharing another point of view, maybe consider looking back at your own opinion through a different pair of eyes and critique your own view rather than jumping to defend yourself when no one attacked you in the first place. Both this video, and my comment are examples of people sharing their opinions, the point of sharing one’s own view is to challenge others and themselves to understand new perspectives, I know that I myself try to see multiple views when it comes to debates like this (though I admit I am not without bias or flaw, as most people aren’t either) and I advise everyone to do the same. I hope this was both helpful and respectful, I mean no hate and wish you a good day. :)

@YSFmemories

Жыл бұрын

@@theterriblemonarch Sure. No, I don't think you're hateful at all; I don't think anyone is actually motivated by hate, and i think this is a very dangerous narrative that western liberals push. It's all just people with different ideas of how to arrive at a similar goal; a society that is better for all. I've watched Matt Walsh's videos directly, and while I hate his takes on China because they are based on complete ignorance, I can assure you that he genuinely cares for people and isn't just trying to trap people to hate on them. My concern is that, all of the points this video makes (it's hard for me to watch because it's so biased and filled with attacks) seem like some sort of appeals to authority; a biased authority. It's like okay, gender is now defined this way, and that's fine, words change meanings all the time. But does it change the nature of things? No. I don't care if a biological male wishes to dress like biological females tend to dress, I don't care if they wear make up, have long hair, have feminine hobbies, I don't care about any of that. But IF this gender identity thing is a mental illness akin to depression, psychosis etc, then we need to help them at the source of their problems, not pretend that there are none and pat ourselves on our backs for being so tolerant. That's not true kindness, that is superficial kindness. And if it is completely a social construct, then I question why we need to pull everyone in the world into this social construct that others may not feel useful at all; because I don't think gender role expectations and separating and boxing people in those terms serve any good purpose whatsoever; it's fine if other people want to participate in this social construct, but I don't. Just like I may not want to wear a hijab or celebrate holidays, I don't think I'm being a rude or intolerant person; others can do that if they want. But people should be allowed to opt out of this social construct of gender, and thus, bathrooms and sporting events should remain sex-separated rather than gender separated. Everything else, trans people should be free to act however they want, and if they have depression or a lack of self-acceptance, we should help them solve those issues. Do you see a problem with my stance?

@theterriblemonarch

Жыл бұрын

@@YSFmemories I do not have a problem with your stance at all and I would honestly like to understand it better, I simply personally have a differing opinion. To opt out of “the social construct of gender” as you put it would be to be neither man nor woman as gender is an entirely man made concept. Similarly to this, sex can be viewed as a spectrum, for example intersex individuals who are born with biological aspects of both female and male bodies cannot be so simply separated into your two categories, so how would you separate them by sex as you say is the right idea? Would you separate them by what they are perceived as to others? Then that is again the social construct of gender. I feel that your wording of “sex-separated” does not take this into account and overlooks the complexities of sex itself even without taking into account gender. Secondly, “this gender identity thing” isn’t a mental illness, since gender itself is a social construct having any gender at all IS an identity, I believe what you are referring to is the “dysphoria” that many transgender individuals feel. While this is sometimes viewed as a mental illness it is widely accepted by medical professionals that the best “treatment” for it is simply gender affirmative care (e.g. hormone replacement therapy, and surgeries). It is not a mental illness that is treated like depression as your example states, transitioning IS the treatment. Not partaking in or understanding the modern view of gender is not disrespectful but not respecting others identities is, the least you can do is use their preferred pronouns and move on, it does not affect you or the vast public as much as you believe it does. I am speaking from both personal experience and years of research, as a trans person myself (female to male) I am more than willing to have a further conversation with you and answer any questions you may have. Thank you for your respectful response and intrigue, have a nice day :).

@jimmy_xi9342

10 ай бұрын

​@@theterriblemonarch Biological sex is not a spectrum. No biologist worth his salt takes that hypothesis seriously.

It is so refreshing to see men that consider women to be equal human beings. I shouldn't need to say that, but the men I have personally met so rarely are like this. I just love that there really are other men out there.

Hi Forrest. Absolutely love your videos. Can you please confirm whether Gender is actually a social construct or neurological (so, still biological). Professor Dave Explains explicitly says gender is biological with reference to the brain in refutation of transphobes like Matt Walsh. He also says that labelling gender as social construct is harmful when arguing against these people. Thoughts?

@rjill7000

Жыл бұрын

It's all of the above. Gender has social, biological, and neurological aspects to it. None of these traits are mutually exclusive.

@cloyphishs1049

Жыл бұрын

@@rjill7000 thanks 😊 I do agree, but then isn’t it incorrect to call gender a social construct? Gender roles, sure, are a social construct, but gender itself? This is then negated by saying that gender is an internal feeling of self (which I agree with), not defined by genitalia, and physical characteristics. So an internal feeling of self is a social construct? I really would love Forrest to be clearer about this from a biological perspective

@Vic2point0

Жыл бұрын

The problem with both of these approaches to defining "gender" is that they're intellectually dishonest. If I had a so-called "female brain" and adhered to all of the socially constructed norms and roles traditionally assigned to women, but identified as a man, the trans community would call me a man. Both the science and the new definitions for "gender" are completely irrelevant.

@k.m.sparks1190

Жыл бұрын

@@cloyphishs1049 I'd say gender is the neurochemical part,while gender roles are the social part.

@jimmy_xi9342

10 ай бұрын

​@@rjill7000 So, how can a biological male be a woman?

Great video! Peace ✌️