What is a Kirfing Plane or Rabbet saw
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what is a kirfing plane or a rabbet saw?
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There was a great episode of The Woodwright's Shop where Roy visited a Moravian shop in the Carolinas. One of the demonstrations involved cutting sliding dovetails by hand, and they had this awesome little kerfing saw with angled bevels on the sides to match the angle of the dovetail plane. I had to make a Moravian bench first, but that kerf saw is definitely on my build list.
I can see this being used to cut a kerf in furniture to fit like 2 or 3-mm ply etc. for wardrobe backboards or picture frames.
I use 2 diy of them for resawing, 1 is for thin pieces, up to around 8 mm thick pieces, other is for thicker pieces but i used them mostly on expensive wood, like ebony or curly maple (for making guitars or inalys and small pices for furniture, boxes...). . I do own a bandsaw and a european framesaw and even if i'm using a bandsaw properly, i like to make a kerf cut before. I will spent that time to minimize (unfortunately not eliminate 100%) potential error.
I have a tool that looks like an oversized marking gauge. It has a 2 inch stem to accomodate a short saw blade. It can be use as a regular marking gauge with a kerf of 1/2 inch deep.
Stair saw is similar too. Just without the fence. Another specialized saw with few uses. Very cool if you want a specific tool for a task you enjoy and do often.
Love the idea of a kirfing saw for repeat cuts as a use for an old saw blade. Must have a go at this some day.
I don't think I'd buy one. But now I am tempted to make one. Why do James' videos always seem to add new things to my projects list? 😆
Hello, you have a wonderful handicraft, thank you for sharing. I'm wondering how to cut a round piece of wood using hand tools. Can you make a video about this?
@microwave221
2 ай бұрын
Look up a scorper and trammel, basically a compass with a cutting tip. Super easy to make one out of a strip of scrap wood with a chisel and a point jammed through it
Thanks for speaking the plane truth
@williamang9649
2 ай бұрын
Smooth
If I have a rabbet longer than six feet I still use it. Or a lot of identical ones. Was ideal when doing a room of wainscoting.
Nope, no questions. Thanks the intro to Kerf saws
Never heard it called a rabbet saw, very interesting
Can't you just saw a kerf all around with the frame saw? Or clamp a couple of boards on either side of the line? (I'm really good at jumping off the line).
I have a kerfing blade for the quangsheng no 46. It's a really poor blade, even after sharpening. I tried using it a couple of times but found it took ages as James suggests. I'm pretty good at just sawing to a line, so I just do that. I thought it might help on a project where I wanted thin boards and didn't have a lot of room for waste, but even then it didn't work any better than just using my 5" rip saw. Maybe one day I'll make one with a decent blade and see if I can make it work.
A fun tool! Thanks for your respectful and engaging explanation of its uses, advantages and limitations.
Seems like the fixed-fence one, perhaps with a bucksaw blade filed down to a narrower kerf, would be handy for repetitive measurements like shiplap or raised panels. I keep wanting one because I definitely am not yet skilled at resawing, but I haven't invested the time to build it yet.
Thanks James.
Thanks for your amazing Videos! I made a quick and dirty kerfing plane by cutting an old Framesaw blade and bored fitting holes so that it could be clamped into my Record 050 combination plane. Works, but i hope i'm soon confident enough to resaw freehanded.
I like the idea of that tool set up to be adjustable. I have some old saws and some nice scraps. May try to make one!
I’m gonna dremil in a 1/8 slot every 3rd tooth of an old saw blade to see if that helps with the clogging factor, that and a bottom mount adjustable wooden fence should give me a mix of the two planes you showed. What “wood” I do without this channel for inspiration?
I have got Luban no.43 which is a replica of Irwin no.43 and I have got an attaching plate for the kerfing saw. It is going slowly and the kerfing saw is thicker from my frame saw blade so for guiding the frame saw blade I found that my Disston D23 making better job
That's what i was looking for from long time. thanks for the idea
Thanks for the history lesson! Loved the video!
I'm new to all this and thought an old Stanley rabbit plane was this. Got it for a steal but now need skill points. A bench and vice would go miles too😂 such a mess
Thanks for all the info, James! 😃 I definitely want to make one! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Keep up the great content!
Looks like it would be useful (along with a router) for making dados... but could use a depth stop 🤙
Thanks for this review, it confirmed what I've been thinking.
Thanks James
Thanks for sharing that!
Very cool too!! I only wish, as a beginning woodworker, all of these types of tools were more plentiful near where I live. And a bit less expensive wouldn't hurt either ...
@TwinPhoenix666
2 ай бұрын
It's easy enough to piece together parts from scrap and hardware. And take a piece of a bandsaw blade for instance and just make yourself one of these. I have made a couple of them actually and they're not that hard. It's really enjoyable task making tools, especially as a beginner would worker because you get an understanding for the wood you're working with and you end up with the tool that you can use from there on out
@MK-lh3xd
2 ай бұрын
You can make one easily, I am sure.
@WoodByWrightHowTo
2 ай бұрын
None of mine were purchased. They were all made. I've got videos on each of them.
Thanks for the video.
Great info as always! Are you going to show us a detail and tips and tricks on resawing sometimes?
@WoodByWrightHowTo
2 ай бұрын
I have a few videos on that. here is one of them. kzread.info/dash/bejne/loSbuLuNp7Sbh8Y.html
@adrift_makes
2 ай бұрын
Thank you James! Great content! 👍🏾
Thank you
Maybe you need a kerfing plane if you’re a scruffy kerf-herder.
I just here for the puns. Just kidding, I'm really here to learn things.
Bravo !!
Thanks
I've got to try that 45 trick. Juet need a blade
new project making a tool is fun
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Would like to see the jimmy-rigged no.45 kerf plane/saw, hybrid abomination 😂
I tought I saw a wabbit saw…
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Don’t worry PETA, no rabbits were hurt in the making of this video.
@corwind3888
2 ай бұрын
Uhm, I think one was cut...
Thanks for this video, it's a tool I have always wanted to know more about. I will look into getting the parts to make one. And while I also love your patrons for making your videos possible, we all know that what makes the world go around is fat bottomed girls. (Sorry, it's a music reference and if I didn't make it my head would explode. I'll see myself out now).
cool
Kerf on kerning on
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It might be useful to me.🙂🙂
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Wouldn't a Kirfing plane/saw be handy/faster than scoring a making a knife wall?
@MK-lh3xd
2 ай бұрын
Yes, but the thickness of the blade has to be accounted for.
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Why would you want a sawn rabbit as opposed to using a rabbit plane made rabbit?
@WoodByWrightHowTo
2 ай бұрын
Nick can be much faster. And sometimes you want to keep the peace that you remove.
If you're legally blind it helps a lot
@dylanpetriko4843
2 ай бұрын
Are you actually a blind woodworker? Cause that’s a amazing if so
@emmengel
2 ай бұрын
@@dylanpetriko4843 yes I'm legally blind I have macular degeneration
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*engagement*
If you don't mind using power tools, a narrow kerf blade on the table saw can do the same job prepping for a resaw.
@WoodByWrightHowTo
2 ай бұрын
Even a narrow blade creates a much wider kurf.
@awldune
2 ай бұрын
@@WoodByWrightHowTo No question, but it is handy to do when I need to resaw something wider than my bandsaw will cut.
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"class up in Canada." Cause you know Canada is such a small place, lol.
@WoodByWrightHowTo
2 ай бұрын
Do you want me to list the street address??
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@markbaker9459
2 ай бұрын
Picture this: You wake up ... Not in your bed but in a hospital... First thought: How did this happen? Many other thoughts follow. At least you woke up. That was me back in 2011. Previously, I had run shop for as many as 120 carpenters and other jobs. Recovery was to lead me down this current Rabbit Hole( no, I didn't meet Peter). Getting vertigo that can't stop or be dealt with from doctor prescribed meds lead me to just deal with it in my own way, Unplugged Woodworking. The re-learning of my forefathers skills is a lost art and there are a lot of useful and interesting tools are never needed when using powered tools. Kerfing saws are just another one of those good training tools to get you up and running again. They can also save you wood and time and keep you from wasting a rare chunk of wood that just may be very costly to turn into sawdust rather than the finished piece you started on.
Kerf not kirf
@WoodByWrightHowTo
2 ай бұрын
Not on this channel. Lol
This is nothing more than an embellished stair saw. As as stair saw its biggest advantage is sawing dado to predetermined depth, and if set up correctly do it well. Mine is set up at eight tpi crosscut and installed in the pull position.Best to use a knifed and chisel relieved wall due to visibility issue..they leave a good wall and no tear out with careful use. I personally cannot recommend Blackburn tools due to delivery issues that are widely reported. I personally have a twelve inch saw plate order that has not been fulfilled with no response to inquires as to delivery date or refund forthcoming from Blackburn. Too bad because I liked his products.
No, thank you.
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@corwind3888
2 ай бұрын
What, you mean like THIS?