What If The Berlin Wall Had Not Fallen In 1989?

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  • @Malek-jt7ou
    @Malek-jt7ou2 ай бұрын

    10/10 narrating and video

  • @bigadz0r
    @bigadz0r2 ай бұрын

    Next do, what if Russia won the race to the moon

  • @user-du8kd3sn8n
    @user-du8kd3sn8n2 ай бұрын

    Interesting scenarios but it has two big flaws IMHO: 1. Written from an American perspective, where the sole arbiter of what's good and bad is a sort of freedom / conspicuous capitalism that is defined by them - this has many downsides, look at the US today. Freedom for some, poverty for many 2. It ignores the rise of other superpowers like China and India and what role they would play, the game is not of only two actors

  • @PP266
    @PP2662 ай бұрын

    There wourldn't be any DDR in 1991. cause they were financially toasted in 1989. DDR was finished as an idea and state in November 1989.

  • @jimjones4852
    @jimjones48522 ай бұрын

    I don't agree with this, Hungary opened their borders with the west prior to the wall falling, so the only way the DDR would have been able to stem this would have been building a wall separating it from EVERY country to its east, which would have led to a violent upheaval similar to Romania in 89, if not worse. Even if that had worked it still almost certainly would have fallen in 1991 along with the Soviet Union, which was on its deathbed by 89.

  • @Shivas-cj7vr
    @Shivas-cj7vr2 ай бұрын

    Great editing, great voice, hope you go far.

  • @kidmohair8151
    @kidmohair81512 ай бұрын

    to put it succinctly? tsar vlad the intriguer/invader would not be trying to create New Greater Russia.

  • @anarcho-pingu
    @anarcho-pingu2 ай бұрын

    1:00 I cannot fully express how biased this statement is. Capitalism does not equal prosperity; in fact it is a system designed so that there are a prosperous few within ruling classes that profit from economically downtrodden working classes. Just because certain basic services were of better quality in the west doesn't mean that life was any easier financially for people; they were often provided for a fee while in the East (which was under embargo and economic isolation) these services were provided for free. It's bold of you to claim that the West was democratic when there are dozens of documented times when the USA attempted to affect elections in NATO states. The USA isn't democratic either, two-party states aren't democracies especially when a party can win despite winning fewer votes. Another major point that you have neglected to mention is that the population of the GDR were already fleeing before the fall of the wall. They fled through Czechoslovakia and into Austria to get to the West. The fall was not the turning point for the end of the Soviet Empire, it was one of the results. And finally, the countries in the Eastern bloc were not communist. They were ruled by 'communist' parties but the economic system is not communism. The governments of these countries never even claimed to achieve communism. Honestly, this whole video sounds like it's ripped straight from a history textbook. Please don't take offence, this isn't intended to sound mean.

  • @roterstern1301

    @roterstern1301

    2 ай бұрын

    Well, you have written so many words. But you have not understood what she is saying, or you deliberately want to misunderstand her. All she says is that West Germany was capitalist and people lived in prosperity. Unlike East Germany. By the way, I grew up in East Germany and witnessed the fall of the Wall.

  • @anarcho-pingu

    @anarcho-pingu

    2 ай бұрын

    @@roterstern1301 Don't assume that I am picking sides. I am opposed to both sides equally. I have understood everything that has been said, having watched this video several times over. You haven't really made any points or attempted to disprove mine, so I don't really understand what you're trying to say. The west was not prosperous in reality, people struggled there before and after 1990. Not to mention the homelessness, drug addiction, crime and political extremism. This video is very simplistic and makes out that one side was successful and the other a failure; in reality both sides failed and succeeded at different things because they were attempting to achieve different goals. If you are going to claim that the west was prosperous, you're ignoring the millions of people that lived there in poverty. If you're going to claim that the East was like Hell, you're ignoring the millions of people that lived there and benefitted from the system.

  • @roterstern1301

    @roterstern1301

    2 ай бұрын

    You have no experience and, at best, only acquired knowledge about the GDR and West Germany. Your statements (millions of people who lived there in poverty. If you claim that the East was hell, you are ignoring the millions of people who lived there and benefited from the system) are simply wrong or grossly exaggerated. There was no poverty in West Germany (as there is in the USA, for example), as a social market economy still prevailed there, as it does today. So, everyone who needed help got help (housing, money, food, free health care, etc.). In the GDR, millions did not benefit. There were certainly some, especially those who were and had to be loyal to the system. But they didn't really benefit either, as there was no freedom of expression, no freedom to travel, no free choice of profession, no free elections, etc. And that's what was important and what the citizens wanted. That's why the revolution happened.

  • @roterstern1301
    @roterstern13012 ай бұрын

    If you look at the differences between North and South Korea, you can guess how things would have developed between East and West Germany.

  • @anarcho-pingu

    @anarcho-pingu

    2 ай бұрын

    Not a fair comparison. North Korea and South Korea are much smaller countries, on different continents with completely different histories. Do not forget that South Korea was also a dictatorship until the late 1980s, with several military coups happening between the end of the war to around 1990. The GDR was a satellite state of the USSR, while the DPRK tried to develop a separate ideology called 'self-reliance' and positioned itself between the two rival powers, China and the USSR. In contrast to Germany, Northern Korea has much more natural resources such as coal, while Southern Korea has much more arable land for agriculture. This is the opposite of the situation in Germany. North Korea has deviated significantly from left-wing policies and beliefs. Their government is much more accurately described as a far-right state, based around extreme nationalism, cult of personality based on family lineage (monarchy) and militarism of society.