But what about USSR? If Cuba never got communist and there are no Missile Crisis, wouldn't it change something in their foreign policies? For example there is a possibility of Khrushchev not getting overtrown - after all his policies towards resolving the Crisis was one of the main reasons why he was forced to step down by his enemies

@MonsieurDean

Жыл бұрын

Good observation. Honesty would have liked some extra time with this scenario since it proved to be more detailed than expected.

@randomdegenerate3841

Жыл бұрын

@@MonsieurDean maybe you could make a part two

@Berserker3624

Жыл бұрын

@@MonsieurDean a part teo sounds good, it would pretty interesting to see the world wide effects of this

@gigisead1621

Жыл бұрын

@@MonsieurDean maybe you could try and give us more longer videos? We would never say no to that, even if at expense of a slower upload rate

@nightprince8641

Жыл бұрын

@@MonsieurDean Yes I agree with the others a part two would be really nice

Yeah, it was odd that there was no Cuban War. Though, it could be that the U.S. didn't want to risk a war that would impact its mainland.

@GabrielLopez-mo2xo

Жыл бұрын

There were revolts and mini revolutions many lead by family members of Castro. I can attest to this my grandfather led one but was pardoned and given a cushy job cuz what is a rebellion amongst family

@corneliuscapitalinus845

Жыл бұрын

Gabriel lopez FeudalismGang

@gustavju4686

Жыл бұрын

@@GabrielLopez-mo2xo Against him (from family)?

@GabrielLopez-mo2xo

Жыл бұрын

@@gustavju4686 yea but we fought for him during the revolution cuz when your cousin is starting a war you have to have his back….of course he didn’t tell anyone he was a commie until he took power

@yourfinalhiringagency3890

Жыл бұрын

Sadly, “it was Bc they were brown” if you ask any 70 & up year olds.

Imagine if Patton didn't die, and was the one in charge of the invasion. It would have probably been his dream come true.

@handlethisshitainttwitternigga

Жыл бұрын

How old was patton when he died? i don't think he would be able to oversee the invasion

@memer3548

Жыл бұрын

@@handlethisshitainttwitternigga would be funny

@SpaceMonkeyBoi

Жыл бұрын

@@handlethisshitainttwitternigga if Patton wasn't killed, he would have probably slapped the old age out of himself

@legoworksstudios1

Жыл бұрын

@@handlethisshitainttwitternigga he was 60 at the time of his death. By 1961, he would've been around 75 turning 76 and probably retired, but may have still held influence within government if not in the Army itself. I'm hesitant to say a successor would be a follower/zealot of his specifically since he was definitely anticommunist but others would've disagreed heavily with each other over how to combat communism, but it's still a possibility.

@mitchjervis8453

Жыл бұрын

@@legoworksstudios1, MacArthur was 72 when he led US troops in Korea, so age isn't necessarily an issue, more likely Patton wouldn't be chosen because he was a tank commander and an invasion of Cuba would be more focused on amphibious landings and guerrila warfare.

The reason why the US never went back to Cuba after the Cuban missile crisis was because part of the agreement with the US moving their nukes out of Turkey and the Russians doing the same in Cuba was that America could not interfere with Cuban affairs in the near future elsewise the Russians were just repeat the same crisis plus once the Cold War ended it seemed better to negotiate then use military force

@Caesar_Americanus

Жыл бұрын

We never removed nukes from Turkey though we store 50 B61 nuclear gravity bombs at Incirlik Air Base in Turkey there was a big deal about it in 2019

@hollister2320

Жыл бұрын

@@Caesar_Americanus winners that don’t end up collapsing can dictate terms, if the USSR has any problems, they can come back to Cuba. Oh wait….

@DTD110865

Жыл бұрын

And yet Cuba kept supporting communist wars throughout the third world, which means we never should've taken a war with Cuba off the table. Actually, we got pretty close to one in Grenada.

North Dakota fact: North Dakota has the 11th lowest unemployment rate

Fun fact, I went to a military school that was founded by a former Cuban colonel who had been imprisoned by Batista and freed by Castro. Castro's communist garbage wasn't what the Colonel was fighting for, however, so he fled Cuba for Puerto Rico and founded a military Academy that's still around today.

@GabrielLopez-mo2xo

Жыл бұрын

Yeah Castro lied to everybody but if he didn’t he would’ve been captured by the cops several times as even blood is only so thick.

@joshscott5213

Жыл бұрын

What's the school called?

@Alex_FRD

Жыл бұрын

@@joshscott5213 American Military Academy.

@jfsr2585

Жыл бұрын

En nuestra isla de Puerto Rico! No sabía de este dato, muchas gracias!

@oattyrant2035

Жыл бұрын

LOL

A possible side effect of this timelime is a larger US space program after Apollo. Financial resources were siphoned away for the growing Vietname War; Skylar and the Space Shuttle were scaled-down versions of what was originally planned. I'm not saying that US space efforts would be as large as in "For All Mankind," but may have been much more robust than what we ended up with.

@lmul1441

Жыл бұрын

that would be cool

@hasturtheunnameable3888

Жыл бұрын

I could see it. The Soviets, in turn, focus more resources on the Space Race as opportunities for political expansion dwindle. So they turn to space exploration as a means of proving their superiority over the West.

@DTD110865

Жыл бұрын

North Vietnam would still have backed the Viet Cong, Pathet Lao, and Khmer Rouge to turn the region into a bloodbath with continued support from the Soviet Union, Warsaw Pact, Red China, and North Korea. They just wouldn't have Cuba to help them out. Therefore we'd still have to respond to their massacres with military force.

Yes! I was right! Let’s go! I predicted that this video would be about if the Bay of Pigs invasion succeeded.

@jeaniusedits6094

Жыл бұрын

Who couldn’t have predicted this???

@Aspenstorpemusic

Жыл бұрын

@@jeaniusedits6094 I didn't predict it.

@DireAvenger001

Жыл бұрын

Good job Mr President

@komlan391

Жыл бұрын

Nice one

@neilz.

Жыл бұрын

Mission Accomplished Mr. President.

Finally, my dream has come true that Mr.Z is making a video about alternate history video that What if Operation bay of pigs had success! Thank you so much! XD :D

@MonsieurDean

Жыл бұрын

Monsieur Z delivers.

I've always wondered about this. Thank you! Getting ready to watch.

This would have been a great opportunity to play Bay of Pigs by Civil War.

What if the Bay of Pigs succeeded? Answer: We’d still have sugar in our Cola Cola

@GreenBlueWalkthrough

Жыл бұрын

And they'll be less Cubans in Florida so the Cuben sand which would no have been made.

@Lando-kx6so

Жыл бұрын

@@GreenBlueWalkthrough there might be even more Cubans b/c they could've stayed a horribly unequal society like most of Latin America

@solesurvivor7989

Жыл бұрын

Justin Trudeau wouldn't have been born

@GabrielLopez-mo2xo

Жыл бұрын

@@Lando-kx6so Cuba was a rapidly industrializing nation it would likely have evened out economically within the following decades to be something like Taiwan

@joshuawaldorf9559

Жыл бұрын

We'd still have Cuban cigars.

lovely smooth transitions and great graphics

Angola..... I remember now! Jonas Savimbi: "Our Journey to Victory has Begun! Death to the MPLA!!!" I like how Z spins Cuba at the end.

José Miguel Battle could have possibly been the anti Castro leader in Cuba. In our history he was captured after the Bay of Pigs invasion and later became a gangster in the US but if he has been propped up by the US he could have possibly succeeded. He was incredibly charismatic and a natural leader which was bolstered by the fact he was seen as a war hero

When will a video about what if the US collapsed in the modern day happen like a modern version of your video on what if the US collapsed?

Another excellent video.

And don’t forget with out all those Cubans who fled to Miami, Florida would have a significantly smaller Latino republican voting block that would significantly effect the direction of that swing state voting habits during presidential elections.

@Julian-4

7 ай бұрын

Less self hating Hispanics who like to masquerade themselves as wh*te or the “acceptable Latino” to the rest of the state. The lack of that voting bloc would’ve definitely helped some rather controversial elections toward the end of the century

What if the Holy Roman Empire (Germany) never formed? What if the Carolingian Empire never fell? What if the Viking Age never happened? What if 9/11 did not happen? What if Germany wasn't split after WW2? What if the Brazilian Empire never fell?

What if The Soviet Union and China fought one another ?

Does anyone else notice that Fidel Castro looks like Trudeau with a beard?

What if Monsieur Z was French instead of Italian as his channel name would imply?

@msmith1890

Жыл бұрын

The whole universe would be different.

@halahmilksheikh

Жыл бұрын

This video would have been delayed by a month instead of a week

@callmemelody653

Жыл бұрын

Signore Z

If it succeed I’d likely be even better off given that my grandparents were fairly wealthy industrialists in Cuba. Ahh but alas I shall just have to take it back myself. On a totally separate note I’m taking volunteers to join me on….a fishing trip of sorts.

@terrynewsome6698

Жыл бұрын

Is the boat the former USS JFK?

@GabrielLopez-mo2xo

Жыл бұрын

@@terrynewsome6698 USS missile crisis

@RoCK3rAD

Жыл бұрын

If they truly made their wealth they’d still be wealthy in a new area. Sounds like they were back room dealers I saw a lot of those types in Miami

@GabrielLopez-mo2xo

Жыл бұрын

@@RoCK3rAD no we made a decent living here nice job talking shit about people that are dead and in the ground. Never you mind them fleeing communism right around the age most Americans retire because apparently if you can’t make money again in a new country where you don’t speak the language you must be a crook. I’m sure if I took bill gates stripped him of connections and all his money and fame he would definitely become successful in Mongolia

Then Alex mason would have never met reznov in vorkuta

You should make a video based on if the Soviet Union won in Afghanistan, it would make an interesting topic. As our current timeline result is what made the current quagmire in the Middle East.

@dchenkin02

Жыл бұрын

If the Soviet Union won in Afghanistan, especially if Osama bin Laden is killed by the Soviet forces, Al Qaeda never organizes to attack US interests; the terrorist attacks against New York City in 1993 and 2001 never occur; George W. Bush doesn't win re-election in 2004 as his administration is seen as incompetent and the 2003 invasion of Iraq is widely opposed.

Enjoyed the video, but I think you overlook the loss of face Kruschev would have experienced in such a scenario. With the loss of Cuba, he would have been under tremendous pressure from elements within the Soviet security establishment to restore Soviet credibility, which could possibly lead to Kruschev taking more aggressive measures against West Berlin.

Now I’d like to see the new chapter of Scar Nicholas part III very soon.

@Aspenstorpemusic

Жыл бұрын

Scar Nicholas

@msmith1890

Жыл бұрын

@@Aspenstorpemusic Scar Nicholas and the Priest of Steel will they defeat communism in Europe? Find out in the next episode of Scar Nicholas!

@crusader2112

Жыл бұрын

@@msmith1890 Spoilers: And Renaissance H**ler and The Mad Baron apparently as well.

Good video

This could also mean a unita victory in Angola since the mpla was supported by Cuba in our timeline

Love this video; I’d be interested in a part two as well with how the Cuban Missile Crisis never taking place altered the USSR.

What if USA was non-interventionist, and allowed other countries to succeed or fail on their own terms? 🤔

@macicoinc9363

Жыл бұрын

Did WW2 still occur and did the allies still win? I doubt much of the 3rd world, especially latin America, would be much better off than our timeline. Most would have communist revolutions, backed by the Soviets. This would lead to small upticks in standards of living followed by decades of stagnation at best or, sadly, massive collapses in their system due to insane policies like what mao, kim, and pol pot did. Latin America didn’t have the institutions and national identity required for non-corrupt democracies, let alone all encompassing collectivized states and planned economies. Potentially far more conflicts between neighbors as communist countries, as history has shown, are far more likely to fight one and other, when compared to even the most corrupt democracies. Although, this observation may be different in this timeline as I am not sure how much effect US interventionism and influence plays here, probably a lot, yada yada Brenton Woods agreement and all that bs. It would also depend on how much American business would still occur in the region in this scenario. I’ll admit, I am probably very bias in my assessment as I am American :P. Would love to hear what you think would happen.

@navajoguy8102

Жыл бұрын

After the Sandinistas won in Nicaragua against the US backed Samosa dictatorship, the US then put Nicaragua under a brutal economic embargo like it did with Cuba. At the same time used drugs to sponsor a very violent conservative terrorist movement called the Contras. People talk about those hard times in Nicaragua as though it was all because of the FSLN's economic policies and conveniently leave out that the country was under siege by the US. Meanwhile in Pro-US El Salvador you had American special forces trained rape squads plundering the country side and in Guatemala a full on genocide of Mayan people by the US backed military juntas. Lesson basically is the US never left Central America alone and even the countries that were under the US's thumb didn't exactly prosper.

@zfloyd1627

11 ай бұрын

Then Hitler would have won.

It’s this and alternate history hub the same?

Nice video. next can be what if Khmer Republic never fall in to polpot regime.

Random thought, what if after one of the many assassination attempts on Castro was just a little too close to home, the man went full Pol Pot/Khmer Rouge on the people of Cuba. How bad do you think it would have gotten before America decided to try and intervene (if they would) and would the Soviet Union still try to defend that level of crazy?

@owenmb984

Жыл бұрын

Lol America was supportive of Pol Pot and the KR, it was Vietnam that invaded and occupied Cambodia.

This was a cool Scenario.

@MonsieurDean

Жыл бұрын

Well thanks, pally.

@msmith1890

Жыл бұрын

@@MonsieurDean What vidoe/project are you most proud of?

A "what if Japan never joined the axis or the entente" could be a interesting timeline because they are left on their own.

@accent1666

Жыл бұрын

its ENTENTE

@The_Deztro

Жыл бұрын

@@accent1666 thanks (*It's)

@hasturtheunnameable3888

Жыл бұрын

Though it should be observed that their alliance with Germany and Italy didn't really get them much as it is. The only obvious benefit is that after Pearl Harbor, and the US declared war, Hitler declared war on the US in retaliation, even though the terms of the alliance didn't require it. So perhaps the absence of the alliance delays that, but it seems overdetermined, given US aid to the UK and disputes over American shipping.

@LanMandragon1720

Жыл бұрын

@@hasturtheunnameable3888 What it would likely do is force a Japan first war. As opposed to the Europe first war we fought iirc.

@hasturtheunnameable3888

Жыл бұрын

@@LanMandragon1720 If I am following you, that may be right. Once war was declared, the American strategy was to concentrate a bit more on Europe, because it was believed that Germany could win without Japan, but that Japan couldn't win without Germany. So you could get the US doing a Pacific campaign exclusively, perhaps some lend-lease aid to the UK and Soviets. That could get an earlier American victory in the Pacific, but a more dragged out affair in Europe. BUT... This all assumes Germany doesn't declare war on the US, and vice versa. And given that the Axis alliance already didn't require Hitler to do that, it seems like Hitler was just using Pearl Harbor as an excuse. So with no Axis alliance, Hitler probably just looks for another excuse not long after Pearl Harbor, like sending aid to his enemies. Also, victory in Japan required the atomic bomb, and I don't know that we get the bomb faster in this scenario. So you might have Operation Olympic in 1943 or more likely 1944, millions dead, if the US isn't fighting Germany. But more likely, Hitler declares war on some pretense by January 1942, and the war as a whole generally plays out much as it did in our history.

What if Operation Northwoods succeeded?

Easy, Civil War would write the song differently if at all.

I love that thumbnail

Can I make suggestions: What if Napoleon stayed on Elba? What if Kingdom of Auracania and Patagonia survived?

"You say Batista is gone did you know about this?"

*VIDEO SUGGESTION:* What if Fidel Castro never grew a beard?

@MonsieurDean

Жыл бұрын

He would become King of Canada

Invading at the Bay of Pigs was doomed to failure. This was a stronghold of Castro support. A more realistic scenario would be if the USA had not been so hung up on international McCarthyism to determine whether Castro, while being open to having Communists in his government (which he needed for support, as they were a large faction and major reason for his ousting Batista) if he could be worked with. Whenever we see Castro making a decision seen as far-left, it was due to being shut out by the US. He needed oil. We refused. The Soviets offered a discount. The oil needed refinement, but US companies wouldn't allow their Cuban refineries to touch it, so he nationalized them. Castro wasn't stupid. He was US educated. He promoted educating his people. Desperate times call for desperate measures, and if your neighbor refuses to help you seek it from wherever it may come from. Ike's foreign policy in Latin America was largely shaped by the US companies that made billions by doing whatever they wanted, with the backing of the US government, intelligence agencies and military. Che Guevera was a doctor working in Guatemala when United Fruit had the CIA kill a Justice Dept case that would have broke up their monopolization of several Guatemalan industries, and sponsored a coup essentially based on War of the Worlds (it was broadcast on radio as if it were thousands of troops when it was about 100. CIA tried a similar thing in Cuba, but Guevera wasn't stupid either.) United Fruit had previously employed both Dulles brothers, MANY others in the govt and had on its board the husband of Ike's secretary. It makes you wonder when he eventually addressed the military industrial complex in his farewell address, if he had an eye on the corporate influence in his own administration.

@TheAnnoyedHumanist

Жыл бұрын

Castro was more of an economic nationalist when he first took power and only declared himself a Marxist Leninist when he wanted to garner favor with the Soviets, he wanted to work with America but instead they terrorized Cuba and attempted to overthrow him, so he turned to the only major country willing to help him

It's always interesting to look at the ever expanding ripples of certain actions. A Cuba maybe following the road South Korea and Taiwan take, gradually liberalizing as they grow ever more economically secure sure would have done a lot to improve the lot of tens of millions across the Caribbean, South/Central America. I can remember the awe/wonder of Cubans visiting Panama to see modern cars and the wares offered in even the tiniest tiendas in the early 80s...

I was waiting for this for years and as a cuban I hoped it happ

Another effect to think about this is how would apartheid in South Africa go because this changes a lot of the dynamic in the area. Would there have been earlier pressure to end it by other nations?

@Exercicio-ok2px

Жыл бұрын

@@Winston.S.Churchill the latter is preferable

@oldegrunt5735

Жыл бұрын

It might have changed quicker w/out hostile foreign military presence on it's borders. Those successor states to the old colonial Portuguese administrations would have come to terms w/what was the military/economic power of southern Africa. Internal SA resistance (the peaceful groups, both white & black) wouldn't be able to be cowed so easily w/out those external threats.

@zeinnanla5422

7 ай бұрын

​@@oldegrunt5735but Mozambique, Angola, and Zimbabwe were all anti-apartheid. They weren't fighting South Africa for any reason beyond that, so why would the peaceful anti-apartheid resistance have viewed them as foreign threats?

What if the shining path of Peru won the internal conflict of the 80s and 90s. I think it would soooo interesting to consider making a video on! Imagine a North Korean or even a Khmer Rouge style regime on the American continent...(same cult of personality and cruelty)

No Allende in Chile and no Chavez in Venezuela.

Imagine if Cuba was divided likely Germany or Korea, would have been strange and at the same time interesting 🤔

What if the Roman Empire discovers the gunpowder and uses this to crush and conquer Gauls, Germans, Carthage, Persia, and Britains?

I saw a video that said that ho chi min went to Woodrow wilson befor ww1 for help gaining independence but was turned down because wilson was friendly to france could you do a video if the us supported ho chi min

Professor Z! ❤️❤️

Guatemala

South america would be a better place for sure

“Make many vietnams,” The boomers couldn’t handle Vietnam without imploding. If the US tried to send them into Latin America I could only imagine the disaster on the home front…

Cuba would basically be like Miami is right now, almost all the Cuban exiles that left Cuba to escape communism moved to South Florida to places like Miami, Little Havana, Hialeah, Hialeah Gardens, Tampa, etc.

ive been suggesting this for months now i believe and wont give up yet! What if china expanded in the fashion rome did, conquering indochina, japan, the steppe, etc and blew up like rome did?(perhaps asian versions of britain, germany and france can come out of it and dominate the world) What if Crassus conquered persia and made a 3 way civil war for rome?

6:39 A very minor pronunciation mistake but with Vietnamese words and names, when at the beginning of a word, the "t" and "th" sounds are reversed. Though I have the same last name and even I didn't know exactly how to pronounce it for a long time.

6:19 What? Park Chung-hee and Pinochet were both unelected military dictators, and Pinochet wasn't even particularly popular among the people of Chile...

We are LOSING MONEY!

What if Regan was assassinated

should talk about operation north woods

I agree

LETS GOOOO!!

if castro could throw a curve ball none that that would have happened.

i really always wanted to know what if bay of pigs succeeded

Imagine Cuban cultural exports and how music and other aspects might be affected!

Some wallachian alternate timeline: What if vlad the impaler's boyar showed up when ambushing the ottoman sultan killing the sultan. What if Michael the brave didn't chase after the Austrian army winning the battle.

Without the communists though we don't get essentially a living museum of 1950's Chevys

Damn Cuba was a true Sigma in the cold war

@MonsieurDean

Жыл бұрын

Sigma South Africa and Cuba

Cuba would most likely divide east west as it did during its many civil wars

My Suggestions: What if US never intervene the Vietnam War? What if Robert F. Kennedy survive/never assassinated? What if the Philippines became Napoleon's French Empire(after France beat Spain)? What if Frederick the Great married an English Princess? What if Philippines became 51st state of the United States of America? What if the US disliked the Treaty of Versailles and made separate peace treaty with Germany & other Central Powers after WW1? What if the Soviet Union invade Poland(for a second time) and started WW2? What if Thomas Edmund Dewey won the 1948 US elections? What if Soviet Union and China started a war after the Sino-Soviet Split? What if Ross Perot won the '92 US elections? What if Al Gore won the 2000 US elections? What if the War on Terror ended early(in Afghanistan...if there is no US War in Iraq)?

I learn more about history and politics on this channel than at school. Excellent content.

If Bay of the pigs succeeded, Tropico game series would feel very awkward

One more thing that would change is Miami. Cuban exiles to South Florida really made Miami the thriving international metropolis it is today. Without the massive Cuban influx, Miami would remain a medium-sized city but overshadowed by the much larger Jacksonville.

What if William McKinley never died? Would he go on to implement weaker versions of Teddy’s reforms, since he too was wary of big business? Also, great video.

@abrahamlincoln937

Жыл бұрын

Great idea. If McKinley hadn’t been assassinated he would have remained president until 1905. His second term would have been a continuation of his first term as the US was growing into a world power and becoming more imperialistic. The Progressive Era would have been delayed, but it would have been defined mainly by Roosevelt rather than himself along with Taft and Wilson. If McKinley had survived, Roosevelt would have been elected president in 1904, and he would begin implementing his progressive reforms domestically while pursuing a conservative nationalist foreign policy. He would have been re-elected in 1908 and his second term would have been a continuation of his first term. If Roosevelt decided to run for a 3rd term as president in 1912 he likely would have won and he would have been president during WWI. Roosevelt would have entered WWI in 1915 on the side of the Allies after Germany sank the Lusitania. WWI would have dominated the remainder of his 3rd term and the war probably would have ended in early 1917 with an Allied victory and he probably would have declined to run for a 4th term as president in 1916 and a Republican would been elected to succeed him possibly Charles Evans Hughes given that he was the Republican nominee for president in 1916. Hughes would have won the election and Roosevelt would leave office in 1917 having a very successful presidency. He would have implemented progressive reforms that were implemented during the Taft and Wilson administrations in our timeline like the Federal Reserve and the National Park Service and the Federal Trade Commission and the Clayton Antitrust Act and the 16th, 17th, 18th and 19th Amendments to the Constitution. This is an alternate timeline that I came up with if McKinley was never assassinated. But Mr. Z should definitely do a video on this topic because the assassinations of both Lincoln and Kennedy are remembered while the Garfield and McKinley assassinations are generally overlooked in my opinion. McKinley’s assassination had a greater impact than most people might think in my opinion.

I've got an alt-hist which is inturesting in my opinion: What if Bulgaria held off the ottomans?

What if the UN 1947 partition plan for the British Mandate of Palestain worked? Can you do a video about that? I'm curious to know if that whole business could worked out

Being from the Cayman Islands just south of Cuba, glad to say we have good relations with both Cuba and the states. Never knew who to fully support in the war of words between the two. Fidel was a horrible human being to might have cared about his people at first but quickly stopped caring when he saw the wealth and power that he could have. Meanwhile I also don’t want to support the imperial aspect of the United States intervening in the Caribbean as it sets a dangerous precedent of all Caribbean nations. Edit: also to me whether Fidel remained in charge or the US installed another leader, the Cuban people would’ve lost regardless. It’s awful and the Cubans are some of the nicest people I’ve met despite having such a troubled history in their homeland.

Idea: What if the America's were left alone and the Natives industrialized?

How would a reversed cold war play out?

What if Stalin lived longer?

@zyanego3170

Жыл бұрын

More dead people.

Can you do a video on if America didn't act like the world police? Like didn't interfere with the elections of other countries, overthrow legitimately elected leaders, economically cripple countries they disliked, etc.

@99batran

Жыл бұрын

For that to happen, the Truman doctrine should be either different or never existed. It's either America would send more economic aid in an attempt to 'bribe' countries onto their side and/or it would allow the Soviet Union to act more bold and overthrow governments instead. Either way, the only assured change is that there would be at least a handful more surviving communist countries today that had to rely on the Soviet Union. If you are in the camp that the Soviet Union collapse is inevitable, the communist countries would have to go either the China route, North Korea route, or become unstable with revolutions sprinkled on top. Afterwards, the other change that's needed is if the Gulf War and 9/11 never happened either. Whether the world is better or worse is up to you but it just seems that there will still be roughly the same problems, just in different countries.

@FelipeJaquez

Жыл бұрын

Passive aggressiveness 100. For real though the mantle of world police would be given to the Soviets probably meaning even harsher treatments towards lower countries and America criticized for not doing anything to help it's allies. If any other country was put in the position of world police instead, everyone would hate them the same as America.

You should do if the Cuban Missile Crisis started WW3

@vericbasilio

Жыл бұрын

You do realized Cuba's relationship with the USA is friendlier now then and during the cold war since castro is gone the population is nearly free to speak,

So basically with less communism in the world, the timeline gets better for everyone except the soviets... yeah, seams about right

Would’ve never guessed that a successful Bay of Pigs would result in Rhodesia never dying 😎

@DTD110865

Жыл бұрын

Believe it or not, communist influence in southern Africa predates Castro's rise to power. The MPLA was established in 1956, and was backed by Khrushchev. A lot of other communist parties in the region also predate Castro's takeover. So without Castro, they still would've had Moscow and Beijing to back them up. If more of these African Nationalist groups would've been truly nationalistic like UNITA, they may have received more help from the US, and others in the west.

@Yoghurtmale8

Жыл бұрын

@@DTD110865 I think the main reason the United States didn’t intervene was 1. Because the UK is a close ally and they were obviously mad that Rhodesia left. The United States did not want to start any sort of argument with UK 2. During the 1970s because of Civil Rights the US was trying to be not racist, and most Americans even politicians lumped Rhodesia in with South Africa as Apartheid, while in Reality that’s not how things were in Rhodesia.

What if a Byzantine-like Western Roman Empire happened? What if Hispania became a holdout for the WRE?

Just one thing, right at the start, 0:42, there was not Cuban liberation from Spanish rule, but an illegal war to serve the American wishes of empire

Essentially the world got ever so slightly better

4:11 Beginning lol

What if Japan won the Imjin War ?

The end of Fidel Castro’s Milktopia

Bro why does he look like the Canadian PM at 2:24

@MonsieurDean

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Because he’s his father.

It could also become vietnam war scenario in the highlands as landless peasants fight to keep the land they had seized from plantation elite who had returned

What if Comercial space flights developed sooner?

The best thing communist Cuba has provided the United States is a ton hard-working, honest people who despise communism and love democracy and fair capitalism.

@crusader2112

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Still, a timeline with Communist Cuba and the Cubans can build up their own country, is Based.

@cjclark2002

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Fair capitalism? 😂

@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986

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@@cjclark2002 I don’t think there’s ever a perfectly ‘fair’ system but knowing that communism is much worse from experience makes Cuban immigrants better Americans than most native born ones

@terrorgaming459

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Lol traitors you can have them

@pabloulloa2091

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@@terrorgaming459 better for us, since those traitors make us a lot of money

what if Patrice Lumumba never was assassinated

The United States either outright own or dominate all major economic advantageous geographic area in the continent(assuming the Panama Canal stays neutral). the major agriculture not in the US is utterly dependent on it. The major petroleum production not under US control, sells to the US market at an overwhelming margin. The only significant economically important waterway not totally in US control is the St. Lawrence Seaway, but that is under treaty with Canada for free access. The ONLY shipping lane in the western hemisphere that isn't totally under US domination and could dramatically affect shipping if closed are the straits of Yucatan and Florida which Cuba could shut down if backed by a major power, Hence the 60 year embargo on the country.

The PM the US would have installed looked like a Joey Diaz clone in thick framed glasses....😆

If Castro never gained control of Cuba, Justin Trudeau may never have been born ;)