As much as Sidious is the most powerful of the Sith, Kreia just has a stronger appeal than him as a villain. If you like to support my work: paypal.me/reubzdubz Instagram: instagram.com/reubzdubz Join my discord server: discord.gg/6BbdADkr92

@NicholasIrvin

Жыл бұрын

And she was right Sidious got what he deserved when Anakin took him down

@TheDoctor423

Жыл бұрын

His power is a bit overblown... the only reason Anakin hesitated to take him down is because his cybernetics were deliberately designed to hold him back... and give Sidious a real edge in their fight. Darth Nihilus is the most powerful sith sorceror to ever exist... the only reason the exile could kill him is because they were both affected by the same crucible... both barely survived... both remade from the same wound in the force... everyone else is helpless against him

@highbird4986

Жыл бұрын

@@TheDoctor423 Most people just didn't get to understand KOTOR 2. For understanding it, one should read a book or two, maybe. Don't let me start again! I always thought that Darth Nihilus is somehow The Exile himself. What happened at Malachor has devided The Exile in a way to a spirit and a dead body, deaf to the Force. Did Darth Nihilus had body? When he was killed he then vanished. Only the mask and clothes remained. The Exile asked Visas to take off the mask from the remains. What did you see, he asked? - and Visas replied something like "a face of a man". The dialogue ended. For me that always looked like Visas saw the face of The Exile. But didn't tell him not to hurt before the final confrontation. Maybe somewhere deep in his mind The Exile knew he was Darth Nihilus, that raw Force he once cut of himself.

@whiteraven1992

11 ай бұрын

And the funny thing is, I can respect Kreia far more because of the differences in _how they ultimately died._ We all know how Kreia died, and with dignity. Guess how Palpatine dies in the Legends comic/novels? Shot in the back by Han Solo…

Sidious: "I control an empire, and I've thrown you in this cell!" Kreia: "And this gives you power over me?"

Kreia would respect the Hell out of EU Luke. He’s essentially everything he wanted Meetra’s to be in that one cut ending where she trains Meetra to train a new order of Jedi. Luke is the synthesis between the Jedi and the Sith that Kreia desired to see. Luke was human and he trained others to be the same

@gabethebabe3337

Жыл бұрын

everything she wanted*

@Afroboy151

9 ай бұрын

She would be disgusted by his reliance of the force however

@drakethesnek6429

3 ай бұрын

Wow, you misunderstood Luke and kreia completely. Luke was not a grey jedi(there is no such thing), and kreia was trying to destroy the force(not unify it).

@Echani3007

2 ай бұрын

@@drakethesnek6429 Don’t be so hasty, he’s not wrong in the fact that Kreia would admire Luke’s qualities that are contrary to the Jedi that were hunted during the Clone Wars, as well as those who fell during the Old Republic. Luke is a Jedi who has the open mindedness to question the Jedi teachings and it’s code. It’s him who is open to being more human, open to having a wife and children, it’s that type of open mindedness that would create figures like Revan or The Exile, those who not only are able to question codes of Orders but also who are able to accept life without the force and acknowledge it as even a strength in itself. Now as for reliance on the force - Kreia doesn’t hate those who wield it, but rather are reliant on it. There’s a difference. That’s why she admired Revan who wasn’t a wound in the force like Meetra. I cannot say for sure if Luke is reliant on the force - maybe he is, maybe he isn’t but I do know an EU Luke has enough open mindedness to admit faults and accept the fact that the force is a weakness and even a spite on the lives of common folk. I think a lot of people forget that despite failing in her mission to kill the force via mass murder (that’s not a good thing btw), she was happy to know Meetra was going to train a new generation of Jedi influenced by her teachings…if only TOR acknowledged this in the Jedi we see ingame.

One thing to consider, is that Kreia was the one who gave the prophecy of the chosen one, at the end of KOTOR 2 she spoke the prophecy of the one who would bring balance to the Force. She would know what to expect from Anakin better then almost anyone else in existance.

@vksasdgaming9472

11 ай бұрын

Perhaps "balance to the Force" is not some person but a choice. Many Jedi had turned to Dark Side and all it took was to turn again.

From “most powerful being in the galaxy” to “broken man”, that’s when you knew Palpy was losing the argument.

I honestly thought Kreia would speak about how she tried to kill the Force and ask Sidious what then. "Then tell me Sidious, who would you be if my plan had succeeded in ending the Force? Would you still possess the unlimited power you speak of? No. You would never know the ideal or teachings of the Sith for they would have died rather than surrender their power. And it was not just the Sith, but the Jedi as well. There be no Galactic Republic as any and all who are bound to the Force would choose death or life without it. Trillions would likely die and the galaxy would only know those who were strong enough to live without the Force." Something like that would undoubtably scare Sidious because without the Force he is nothing but a slave to it.

@reubzdubz

Жыл бұрын

Yep that's a good one! I'm actually making a video where Qui Gon Jinn talks to her about destroying the Force.

@Fernando5455Jr

Жыл бұрын

And what will they be without the force? Take the greatest, Jedi knight and strip him of the force, and what you have left nothing but a woman or a man.

@wyattE415

7 ай бұрын

The Force is life. No Force, no life. Gotta have those midichlorians.

@LoganSewell83

7 ай бұрын

Many force sensitive folks can be equated with our real life addicts. Going cold turkey can kill an addict. For example, watch what happens to the Jedi Masters, in contrast to the Exile when all lose their connection to the Force.

The best dialogue so far, this was the most Kreia-like.

Sidious: All I see is a blind, frail old woman who is waiting to die. Kreia: Death comes for all things, Sidious. It is those like you who fear death who would use it as a threat. If I am to perish, let it be while I still stand under my own power. It is far more dignified than spending what time remains in a chair, dependent on the power of others and ignorant of how little you actually control.

Kreia sounds really good and natural and you capture her character so well. Can only imagine a meeting of the minds with Dagoth Ur (Morrowind) or even Emet-Selch (Final Fantasy 14)

@mr.vorrnyvorrn2516

Жыл бұрын

But she sound like Arren Kae, assuming she isn't her.

@Forold

6 ай бұрын

​@@mr.vorrnyvorrn2516she is Arren Kae I'm pretty sure. Kreia comes from the combined names of her jedi name Kae and her sith name Traya.

@mr.vorrnyvorrn2516

6 ай бұрын

@@Forold It's a conspiracy theory, and not true. Nice concept, though.

@Forold

6 ай бұрын

@@mr.vorrnyvorrn2516 ah ok. I've heard it a lot and it made sense to me.

The way Kreia Talked about the Exile at 2:55 somehow felt really heartwarming. I know its for her wound in the force thing. But It was really beautyfull

Two master manipulators, very different in their methods but damn good at what they do regardless.

.... Really Impressed :). Kreia and Sidious are very opposite figures. Sidious does his long game scheming from the shadows and fools everybody. Kreia with the ability to mind **** anybody at any time especially if they already confident. Vader is a beast of a fighter, his lightsaber, the power of the force and his ability to take damage and keep coming but Vader is a conflicted person, maybe more so then Revan was, I believe Kreia could befuddle Vader for long enough to get around. Kreia could use Sidious's overconfidence to make him pause, even for a bit.

i would argue kreia still saw herself as a sith one that strived for freedom like others but also freedom from the force you can tell by the way she talks to mikal and visas who are just shadows of ideologies she thinks are lacking when she calls mikail "little jedi" is what im reffrenceing "if i want to win our little war i want it to be because i was right my teachings true" and visas outright calls her sith

Kreia is the exact opposite of Papatine , while he wants to control the force , Keira wants to kill it , every thing that Kreia said about papatine is true . He fears death and also his pride and ego was his downfall and let’s be honest for a sec , Papatine feared Vader because he’s still the chosen one and it’s Vader’s destiny to kill palpatine .

You know whats crazy? Kreia said her teachings were apart of the telos holocron which came into sidious's possession so this conversation likely happened as sidious is everything kreia hates about the sith

"There is nothing you can do to stop me!" "So long as you are so predictable, Lord Sidious, I don't have to stop you. You are your own worst enemy!"

@reubzdubz

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, sidious had his downfall because of this! I don't really get why people say this is not sidious, like he really much is still fallible and can let his guard down.

It's hard for fan made stuff to ever have the same power as the writing for kreia.

@reubzdubz

10 ай бұрын

Yeah I'm no Chris Avellone and suck ass at creativity. But hey I'm tryna improve!

WE NEED A KREIA MOVIE

I can’t wait for them to reveal an official light saber for kreia.

@dragondice9201

Жыл бұрын

Like seriously they’ve done that for Reven and Malak I wish they would do that for Kriea and meetra

@vksasdgaming9472

11 ай бұрын

It should be purple with ragged, pulsing blade. Sign of her place at center and wounds she bears as consequence.

@dragondice9201

11 ай бұрын

@@vksasdgaming9472 now we’re talking I would also like to know what the green one she used looked like hilt wise I mean when she was posing as a Jedi to fool Meetra.

@vksasdgaming9472

11 ай бұрын

@@dragondice9201 Most likely Kreia used whatever she found. It wasn't that big deal on her era.

@I_am_a_cat_

10 ай бұрын

Who cares about lightsaber toys lmao

Kreia was an amazing villain. Still better than Sidious plot wise.

I really love this exchange!

@reubzdubz

Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

This is incredible. I’m so impressed with this!

Palpatine wouldn't treat Kreia like he's talking to an inquisitor. Very fact that he is talking to the ancient Sith would make him much more cautious and curious. How to exploit her and use her for his gain. Probably wouldn't talk openly to her and keep them brief. Palpatine never shows his true card until he thinks he has achieved victory. Otherwise, it's usually all deception. He doesn't care at all about the Empire. The Empire was just a means to end for his final goal. Just made it easier to achieve his goals. Palpatines goal was to live forever and also rule the world between worlds. His goals are probably beyond Kreias' understanding as he's not thinking as a traditional Sith.

Palpatine would not dare to attack Kreia directly. Her mere presence erodes spirit and Palpatine started with boasting resorting to threats. That is sign of fear.

I love Kreia 's voice!

0:03 DAT LINE😮😮😮😮

Impressive, most impressive.

Kreia was right, Sidious got killed by his own self confidence, he never saw it coming, he who craves power, dies by it.

THIS IS PERFECT ❤❤❤

Kreia essentially played Palpi like a fool here. He's so overconfident from his teachings of the Sith and his hand on powerful governments, that he never thought about the possible bad outcomes.

@reubzdubz

7 ай бұрын

But honestly if it were pre ROTS palpi he would be more cautious

Darth Sidious and Voldemort Harry Potter and Luke/Anakin Skywalker Dumbledore and Kreia (I'm on a Harry Potter kick srry)

Eh, Sideous doesn't talk like this. He doesn't just lay all his cards on the table, he tries to seize the moral high ground by twisting truths. This was just someone stating the things Sideous has.

@I_am_a_cat_

10 ай бұрын

Yeah the writing isn't the greatest lol. It's not deep or nuanced at all

@stanmarsh4566

8 ай бұрын

Kreia is the same too, she is actually far more better than Sidious in manipulation.

That was actually well done

@reubzdubz

Жыл бұрын

Thanks haha, have I seen you somewhere before?

@liamhartmusic

Жыл бұрын

@@reubzdubz I’m not sure, only you would know.. I am Liam Hart

This is actually pretty good! What about a Dub of Kreia and Revan?the two goats.

Damn that was cool! She’s kinda bad ass.

Kreia would have been an amazing rule of 2 sith

@reubzdubz

9 ай бұрын

She would truly have desired to pass on her knowledge, though her choice of apprentice might be quite strict and a legacy quite hard to fill

@StefanWinchester

9 ай бұрын

@reubzdubz and if she went against Palpatine, I think she's one of the few sith who could unravel his plans. She could never beat him in a fight, but mentally, she can keep up with him, although knowing kreia, she would despise him

Kreia and Sidious wouldn't get along. For as many faults as Kreia has there is good in her Not Sidious though He is *PURE* *EVIL* with no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

@thomaswest2583

7 ай бұрын

I think she would try to use him, but she definitely would not respect him

@TotalTech2.

7 ай бұрын

@@thomaswest2583 Other way around. Kreia is wise enough to know not to play with evil. But Sidious would try to manipulate her since she is already in the grey area. But in the end they would be enemies because of a fundamental difference in ideologies.

@thomaswest2583

7 ай бұрын

@SpyTech. Tell that to her literally evil sith apprentices. She would atempt to use making it seem like she was working with him and have plans to eventually double cross. But to be fair Sidious would be trying the same thing. It would come down to situation. In a straight up fight Kriea stands no chance, but she is smart enough to wait to moment to wait till she thinks he is in a weakened state. As much as I love Kriea I gotta give this to Sidious he has to much raw force ability. He have to be weakened a lot for her to kill him

Kreia VS John Kramer ( Jigsaw ) next !

Heelllll yeah

Could you do one of Revan and GM Luke? And Revan and Kenobi??

@reubzdubz

7 ай бұрын

Revan/Luke is already done

neat idea, audio mixing is a bit off

@reubzdubz

Жыл бұрын

Which part?

Oh and one of Meetra and Luke?!

@reubzdubz

7 ай бұрын

already did

@aleksandarvil5718

5 ай бұрын

​@@reubzdubz Do Kreia and Luke Skywalker !!! 😊😊😊

At 0:33 what is Kronika doing there? Would like to see Kreia roast Kronika.

@reubzdubz

Жыл бұрын

😂

Great dialogue, but...why does Palpatine sound like Moebius the Timestreamer? XD

@reubzdubz

12 сағат бұрын

Thanks! Gosh I've been getting a lotta weird comments about Sidious voice lmaoo. All I'd say is that AI voices still have an uncanny valley to them.

I just subscribed with my two other accounts to push you over 1000 subs welcome

@reubzdubz

Жыл бұрын

If what you told me is true, you've gained my trust. :) Thanks a lot !!!

@micaiahflores1592

Жыл бұрын

@@reubzdubz oh it is real my other channel is Weapons Remorse and i have a throw away account

@reubzdubz

Жыл бұрын

@@micaiahflores1592 YT: he's too dangerous to be left alive!

Is there a part two or three or seven?

@reubzdubz

2 ай бұрын

only a semi continuation haha not really

That was not the voice of Sidious

Sidious didn’t feel like sidious

@reubzdubz

9 ай бұрын

Choice of words? Behavior?

why does this sound nothing like sidious?

@reubzdubz

9 ай бұрын

Voice cloning doesnt replicate Sidious well, and you aren't wearing headphones.

i ship them

This speech synthesis is not that great, kreai doesnt even have an english accent. Script is not bad i suppose.

@reubzdubz

3 ай бұрын

Appreciate the feedback, but I'm not responsible for the tech behind this one anyhow, so there's little I can do