What if Konami EXPLAINED why they banned cards?
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Then the comment sections could spawn an entire new series by itself. Dibs.
@shenwishes
Жыл бұрын
Notice me, senpai
@wenzelfelgentreu5988
Жыл бұрын
We follow your order
@LeroLenkins
Жыл бұрын
*spinning fish*
@vxicepickxv
Жыл бұрын
@@LeroLenkins nice Joel
@xnightninja123x2
Жыл бұрын
*Spinning Fish*
"We unbanned Cyber Jar because we needed Ruxin to know at least one card in his banlist video. We love him."
"The Judges have unionized", was the best one by far!
Cyber-Stein in Duel Links: "We are making this card Forbidden because having a skill that lets Cyber-Stein commit Tax Evasion to summon Ojama King in a format with 3 Main Monster Zones was a bad idea."
@amiablereaper
Жыл бұрын
This card should never have been legal in DL. It's in MD and the one deck that uses it wins instantly whenever it resolves
@mafyboy0420
Жыл бұрын
Or that grass looks greener cuz there was a blasting of the ruins burn/self mill deck that got that card banned along with the all of the graveyard effects.
@Elleraiser
Жыл бұрын
.....cyber-stein is in duel links? the card that WILL kill you with one activation in that format if you don't do some shenanigans?
@amiablereaper
Жыл бұрын
@@Elleraiser well, it was...
@TimothyGod
Жыл бұрын
@@Elleraiser yea there was life gain stuff, or the easiest was using tea. One of her skills lets you do LP cost effect for nothing, i think once or twice. Pretty strong
My favourite is Firewall Dragon because it's the one card they never needed to give an explanation for not hitting and then hitting. Everyone knew. Nor did they have to explain why it came back with the changed effect it did. Again, everyone knew.
@bollockjohnson6156
Жыл бұрын
I don't know, tell me.
@Yvijax
Жыл бұрын
@@bollockjohnson6156 Firewall Dragon was the ace monster of the at-the-time most recent anime, Vrains. Since the anime is a big part of their marketing they reeeeeally didn't want to ban such a high profile mascot monster. It'd be if like the original Dark Magician was printed as an effect monster with like, Chaos Emperor Dragon's effect. Funnily enough, I hear something similar did actually already happen in the ancient days of the OCG with Exodia showing up to ruin everything.
@bollockjohnson6156
Жыл бұрын
@@Yvijax Did I ask you though? I asked the fool that posted first. Know you place and never presume to respond to me in such a haughty manner.
@Aye_Pepper237
Жыл бұрын
@@bollockjohnson6156 that time of the month huh?
@NickyCrunch
Жыл бұрын
@@bollockjohnson6156 BDE
Banned: Masterpeace Konami: apparently you are supposed to have fun while playing Yugioh
@Gman121able
Жыл бұрын
People play this game for fun? /s
@StellaEFZ
Жыл бұрын
Skill issue
This is extra funny now that the OCG released a banlist explanation video and they were like "its 2022, skipping your opponent's draw phase is fine now".
on duel links they always write a reason, however vague it may be. so i really wish they’d start doing the same for tcg
@pablorosada9788
Жыл бұрын
my favorite is when they unlimit a card and the only reason they ever give is "we feel the power level of this card is acceptable in the current metagame". I guess it's more elegant than writing "this card has been powercrept to hell and back, you can cope all you want, but unlike the TCG, we actually know our game, this shit is not doing anything ever again". And they are always right.
@timlehmann1436
Жыл бұрын
@@pablorosada9788 to be fair they are pretty honest with most bans, especially in recent history. Like they straight up tell you, yeah were only semi limiting this so you can't throw in The usual staples. Also The reasoning for skill changes are very good imo. Small Fact: they were wrong atleast once from my memory, Vision Hero Vyon was unlimited and then put back to limited cause The Faris package arrived.
@kauanjos3199
Жыл бұрын
Just waiting for the day they take cocitus out of the ban list
@jaernihiltheus7817
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Duel Links is and has had the best way of operating their banlist for awhile now... Not that the bar is particularly high in Yugioh.
@pablorosada9788
Жыл бұрын
@@timlehmann1436 (unlimits vyon) trinity OTK is not winning anything these days it's fine (Faris appears) *Oh shit, vyon is at 3. Well, it was nice while it lasted* (vyon goes to 2 this time)
Konami on the January 2020 ban list: "Banned, banned, banned, you are all banned. None of you are free of sin."
@alonsoarana5307
Жыл бұрын
Ironically a precursor to the shit show of a year that yielded, the end of the eternal format heralded the arrival of an eternal pandemic 💀
@stardust9470
Жыл бұрын
and then they didnt release a banlist to ban cards for months,even tho they knew about the DB tournaments
@andrejv.2834
Жыл бұрын
"You're banned bro"
@n3kuzya
Жыл бұрын
At least they had one good reason to do that actually: with MR5, these cards would have been just too much good to still exist in that meta (except Electrumite, he didn't ever deserved to be banned lol)
@undeadinside3571
3 ай бұрын
And now we have "sinful spoils"
Back in 2009. Dark Armed Dragon to one. “We have noticed that this card so powerful that it’s mere existence warps the format around it and if even a single copy hits the field, it wins the game. So, just have that one copy”
MBT has almost given my cat 3 heart attacks because at a random point in every video he decides to just SCREAM HIS LUNGS OUT FOR NO REASON
@vgmaster02
Жыл бұрын
Your fault for leaving the volume on max. That's why you should TURN IT DOWN!!! XD
@halowaffle25
Жыл бұрын
AND WE LOVE HIM FOR IT.
@callmeriggy
Жыл бұрын
Tbh, it was warranted with the bottoms and substitoad joke.
@weckar
Жыл бұрын
I recommend you never watch the channel DougDoug
@CrnaStrela
Жыл бұрын
It's alright, your cat should still have 6 more lives
It's weird how duel links is the one yugioh format that has explanations with its banlists, even though most of them boil down to "deck too consistent and has access to semi limited cards, semi limit 3 cards, and keep koa'ki meiru Maximus at 1".
@jaernihiltheus7817
Жыл бұрын
Maximus was actually released from the banlist, funnily enough. Koa'ki Meirus (and Amazoness) are now completely unlimited.
@AZ-rl7pg
Жыл бұрын
To be fair to keeping Maximus at 1 for so long it's not like he was worth the cost of banishing a Core anymore so not really much point in running multiple bricks that can only be summoned under certain conditions. Back in the day it was understandable but now it's like "oh no not a blue-eyes that can pop one card *AND* attack in the same turn, if only there wasn't like 15 other cards that can do the same thing but more efficiently."
I love Dire's choice of an orchestral arrangement of Gladion's Theme
@brotherentropySA
Жыл бұрын
thank you, i was distracted for half the video trying to pinpoint why i semi-recognized the song but couldn't place it
Not yugioh, but a funny anecdote from a game that *does* explain why cards are banned. MtG's pauper format recently gained a panel of players (similar to the CAG) that basically tells wizards what to ban in the format, because wizards cannot be trusted with any format but especially ones where the most expensive cards are worth maybe two dollars. This was formed right before the release of modern horzions 2, a set that caused the PFP to spend approximately seven banlists consecutively going "so we think *this* hit will finally bring affinity/storm down a touch." To this day they've banned at least five cards from the format because of this one set
@skuamato7886
Жыл бұрын
yeah, from just reading through the MH2 cards noone could have ever expected that affinity and storm might become an issue. Noone.
@webbowser8834
Жыл бұрын
Modern Horizons 2 is just such a weird set. Like, I get why, but holy cow it sure does speak volumes about how strong Wizards seems to think modern is.
@theauberman
Жыл бұрын
MH2 is the worst set they've printed
Pot of Desires should have read, “We have since created new Pot cards that are much more expensive, and we have noticed many players still using Desires. For this reason we are limiting it so you must transition to Extrav/Prosparity. Once these are reprinted into the ground expect Desires back to 2-3.”
@1001011011010
Жыл бұрын
"We see many duelists playing multiple copies and banishing ten cards of their deck to draw into Desires again. This pains us to see and we are preventing our duelists from making this mistake by force."
@Cheet0sConundrums
6 ай бұрын
Bro,... That's exactly what happened
7:40 My man will spit "She be _____ing on my _____ til i ______" jokes off the dome like no problem, but then miss literally the first 3 letters of the card and tell US to touch grass
@iBloodxHunter
Жыл бұрын
You all need to go touch grass
Last turn requires a 19 page document to cover its interactions with the cards available over a decade ago which were fewer and had simpler effects, imagine the hundreds of pages required to cover every modern interaction
MBT: What does Substitoad have to do with bottoming? Sub? TOUCH GRASS Also MBT: She Grinder on my Golem 'til-
i still come back to this one just for that banger clip at the end. "TOUCH GRAAAAAAAA-" *cuts back to patreon list music*
@jacobortiz7087
Жыл бұрын
I thought I was the only one lmao 🤣
"While some of our players would highly encourage other players "touch grass" due to their erratic behaviour towards certain cards, that would stop our income flow, so we are in fact banning Grass."
IO: As it turns out, shutting off a third of the cards in the game is really strong when you can build your deck around not really needing that third. Mystic Mine still at 3: This is what you get for rejecting our lord and savior Maxx "C."
2 Rare Dire W in a row? Dear God MBT must have a problem.
@four-en-tee
Жыл бұрын
its the brain worms
So primal seed was just banned to prevent a theoretical infinite where you could infinitely recycle any spell card and i only know this because it is used in the duel academy for the nintendo ds (i think tbh ive never played it) for getting 100%
And then two months later, TCG did a breakdown for their December banlist at the same time the OCG took Tearlas and Kashtari out behind a barn. MBTstradamus strikes again.
Most of the time it would be “because we’re releasing new powerful cards and these would be able to go head to head with them and we want you to buy new product”
3:58 It was too powerful in combination with Sparks. Get BLS on the field, have a macro-like effect active and use 2 copies to loop Sparks.
Patch notes in video games And we DO get the reason for hits in other Yugioh games. Just not irl cardboard reasons
They really just hit cards to shake up the game. It doesn’t even have to be meta relevant when they can sit back and say “ lol watch what happens when i hit this card” while snickering
Wizards: let's play test cards to mitgate brokeness in cards! Konami: let's NOT do that, because broken cards sell more!
Dire finally gets another W you love to see it
it’s pretty funny how much product ruxin opens while being utterly unaware of the current meta or the game as it is rn at all
Barrier Statue of Stormwinds "Playing against Floo is already annoying enough. The deck doesn't also need its own Vanity's Emptiness."
OK guys, with all due respect. How are you not prepared for this yet? What are you still whining about? Just draw one of your unsearchable outs.
@mrbubbles6468
Жыл бұрын
Or just run the searchable outs your deck can run. Seriously guys! Do we have to directly spell it out?
Yu-Gi-Oh! Fact of the Day Vanilla monsters don't taste like vanilla Have a nice day
"You know, printing easily accessible generic synchro monsters with omni negates was probably a bad idea." - Baronne and Borreload Savage this month.
I feel like Number 95: Galaxy Eyes Dark Matter Dragon's explanation is just: "We forgot to hard once per turn this thing and we didn't feel like giving an errata, but counterpoint: Just in case we fuck up and reprint Dragon Rulers"
That outro was a straight 10/10. Perfection my dude 👌
They would never
Whe MBT said "mmmmmm" at the start I felt that
2:11 I can’t believe I feel nostalgic over a structure deck that came out 5 years ago
Gonna need another 10 Minute testing for the new plunder card!!
R.I.P. Last Turn. I quite literally got the OG Wall of Revealing Light + Last Turn + Jowgen F/OTK banned from my local as a teenager; they told me "you gotta play something else, we're not dealing with all these fights." Coincidentally, I went 3-0 that night and pulled a tournament pack Morphing Jar, so alls well that ends well.
“Doug’s check cleared” 😂😂😂
Dragon rulers: sorry Steve was off his meds when he made these
If there were such thing at fiber jar banned...probably they would talk like: "Duelist, i've come to bargain"
Snow is the most balanced card ever printed.
You know that Blizzard litteraly did that in a patch note ? They reverted a nerf for duel and made the card broken in this mode. Humble Blessings Old: [Costs 3] → New: [Costs 4] -------------- Dev Comment: My bad.(patch 23.0.3)
That last bit with Substitoad made me actually lol
Dire not looking up the primal seed loop was a W.
Omg, I remember watching the stream where the OCG put VFD to 1
For reference as the guy who posted the Primal Seed tweet, I was referencing a popular Azneyes video that exactly one person in Twitch chat remembered existed
The autotune for mystic mine got me.
Definitely my favorite of these videos.
5:30 if you would like to use VFD i will be beyond merciless to you. back when it was legal in MD i had so many urges to reach through the screen and grab my opponent's neck as soon as they started synchro summoning 9s
idea for a twitter thread: your favorite of those AI generated cards, or maybe just ones that could be released and they would be balanced and see play.
This is just the mr Krabs meme of him going "money!" 😂
Konami after first banning Chaos Emperor Dragon: “Uh, sorry for creating that abomination lol. Steve from R&D sniffed too much glue in the months leading to Invasion of Chaos and now all he can see is martians”
"Why is electrumite still banned?" "We forgor"
@yserareborn
Жыл бұрын
Nah. It really is because they hate Pendulums and want them to go away.
@tyranitararmaldo
Жыл бұрын
The Link Vrains packs were mistakes. And the longer cards from there can stay on the banlist the better.
@MarioLopez-xs3vc
Жыл бұрын
Reminder that Pendulum effects exist that can deal with Mystic Mine. But Anti-Spell Fragrance kills their ability to set the scales needed to do so.
@kauanjos3199
Жыл бұрын
@@MarioLopez-xs3vc man i still think pendulum should get a ruling update to make them possible to use under anti-spell it's just too braindead that 1 cards basically gives you a whole match up either ban that shit(it's 1 less floodgate anyway everyone would be happy) or update pendulum rulings, since they cannot be set on the field they should be able to work just fine under anti-spell fragrance. Just like level based effects don't work on links
@luminous3558
Жыл бұрын
@@kauanjos3199 nah they should just ban anti spell because its IO in modern yugioh.
The funny thing is that both duel links and the OCG gets explanations.
7:51 Narrator: and then he laughed so hard, he coughed up a lung and died
- we have unbanned steam the cloak to sell dark wing blast - we have banned red reboot to strengthen the power of tactical masters - we have left mine unbanned because we genuinely love it
But I actually like Fairy Tail Snow. 😞 Mainly because Yu-Gi-Oh is pain and she adds to the chaos.
That last turn joke was just too good.
Pranks kids jab made me die, “ it’s lore accurate” 😂😂
Linkuriboh: "We have decided to stop pushing VRAINS. He shall bear the cross for Snake-Eyes sins for another format."
What was the song in the Last Turn segment?
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it the OCG that made the banlist pre-September 2013 and the TCG just simply followed suit? I find it weird that the TCG (Tewart?) had to explain what the OCG did based on OCG card pool, especially considering the fact that Tour Guide was a huge TCG-only problem wheres she was still a couple of months away from being released in the OCG.
7:50 absolute lol
4:20 THE RARE DIRE W HAS APPEARED
What was thing going with Primal Seed and Generaider Boss Stage ?
eeeey I made it into my 2nd one in a row! glad my Judgement bit was good enough!
Six Sams had huge momentum coming out of the GATE. Nice one Konami.
Idk how i ended up here but you funny af 😂
I need a full version of Farfalicious
Wait, I finally noticed. Why is Gladion's theme in the background? Odd choice lol
Can you link the last turn analysis document somewhere?
Force of Will TCG provides explanations for each banlist
Three minutes. No.. wait, hold on- pre-soaped?
we banned reboot because going second is too good in yugioh, so we are hitting the only trap that is good going second
@katafadasian
Жыл бұрын
In all fairness reboot should never have been printed
@jamismiscreant7514
Жыл бұрын
Evenly and imperm are also extremely good
@iBloodxHunter
Жыл бұрын
@@jamismiscreant7514 Yeah but Counter Fairies can't use it!
Alternate for Mine: “do you guys not have outs?”
I was expecting the common dire L, got a rare dire W. What surprises the MBT channel has to offer.
They explain bans in duel links. It's seems to be very sanitized after times though. But let's see the memes.
3:55 Dire lmaooo
What's the song at 3:40?
Halfway through the spirit dragon tweet I got a CrossDuel ad...
The ruxin clip made me laugh
So I have a story for last turn: after I did the judge certification the shop I go to had a fun night where you could play anything. Wanna guess what fucking pdf file I had to sit and read to do a ruling on? Fuck that card.
Ya keep doing my boy Ruxin dirty 😭😂
MBT can say what he likes but someone who loves Generaiders this much can't L! Where my other Dire stans at?! Anybody?..
3:39 Join me in honoring our fallen troops O7
Nice video but with all due respect, how are u'll not prepared for mystic mine at this point?
Link to that pdf on Last Turn?
What is that song? That one when u said the judges unionized. Triff uses to use it in all his videos
@kinggrimmjow8980
Жыл бұрын
Do you think I'm invisible! Found it!!
@kinggrimmjow8980
Жыл бұрын
Or just invisible...watever. pend best deck
@shablam0
Жыл бұрын
@@kinggrimmjow8980 I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, but indeed, pend best deck
The judges unionizing is so funny to me
does anyone know the song in the background
If I remember correctly, OCG has made explanations for banlist update right?
Called by the grave limit: buy triple tactics talent.
On Jet Synchron being unbanned, "Look, Jerome's been bugging us ever since he watched this weird 'Masochist Banlist Tournament' online so he wants to play Synchros, and he promised to leave us alone if we did this"
3:37 LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENIN!
Can anyone please link me to that Last Turn rules document? Thanks!