This cast would wash the cannon cast

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

I would agree

I like how all characters found different paths to power

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

Me Too

@DumpyTruck-nn4ew

Ай бұрын

Me three

@Huzaifah957

Ай бұрын

me four

@Arcanine-sm3wo

26 күн бұрын

Me five

At the beginning I thought we would only see SSJ4 due to the change with the tail, but you handled it so well man, developed it way further and did a very interesting and different story, and I loved that even though the saiyans were still in front, the other Z fighters weren't left behind. Amazing job 👏👏

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Yo you have so much potential with these stories keep it up don’t forget that you could rise to salad saiyan popularity keep these vids going

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

thank you man I apprieciate the kind words

@Unique_Lineage2

4 ай бұрын

Facts, to me he's even more entertaining also.

Didn't Goku lose that weakness in the second world tournament ark? I remember Krillin grabbing his tail and Goku still defeated him.

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

Yea I meant more with having the oozaru under control

Are you speaking directly to me lol? I listen to your "what ifs" at work all the time!😅

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

Thank you lol but I get that some people need something to listen to when they work

Haven't watched in a few weeks but have been keeping up in the discord. Been waiting to watch this.

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

Hope it is to your liking

I really like this What if and because it makes since and isn't ai voiced and actually makes sense

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

I will always put effort into my what ifs

You're doing great! I love the inclusion of power levels. It helps when I compare the what-ifs with the original version

@WrathfulSaiyan

3 ай бұрын

Im glad you are enjoying it

yessirr love the content bro😂 most def watchin while im working but it keeps me occupied

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

Appreciate that and glad to hear it

Ayyy this was a great listen! KZread actually blessed me with a good recommendation! That is an easy subscribe!

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed the full series!

Video and audio quality wise, you are definitely one of the better dragon ball what ifers.

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

Thanks man I always try to put high quality effort into my what ifs

@shnubblebitts6193

4 ай бұрын

@@WrathfulSaiyan well thank you. I love listening to them while I work.

Good vid man keep it up ❤

@WrathfulSaiyan

Ай бұрын

Thanks, will do!

Love your what ifs my boy

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

Glad you do my boi

yo this is fire

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

Thank you

Back for a 4th time this week. I put it on as a bedtime story but always fall asleep in the beginning of the sayian saga xD maybe I ought to give it a try daytime

@WrathfulSaiyan

2 ай бұрын

Lolll glad it helps u sleep

I love the thumb nail and you 're channel I can't wait to see you got to level of people like Salad Saiyan and Smugstick good like

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

Thanks man, I hope one day I can be up to their level of content

@ianrodriguez1469

4 ай бұрын

@@WrathfulSaiyanyou’re already very close, I can tell. You’re great at this

Ur what ifs are amazing with ur potential u can become one of the most famous anime what ifs and ur work is just amazing and u didn’t keep your focus on just one character u made all of the characters progress and become stronger love it yet bro❤️❤️❤️❤️🗿🗿🗿🗿

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

Thank you for the very kind words, I will work hard on this channel and make the best content possible

Great video hope you get to 10k subs!

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

I hope so too! And thank you

i think better premise and point of divergence for this story would be Vegeta getting his tail back on condition he teaches Gohan how to master it. (and when Goku comes back from yardrat, Gohan tries to pass it to Goku, but Goku rejects it) or Vegeta gets his tail back in the healing tank of freezas force main base (like seriously, as if it would be first time a saiyan would loose his tail and not get it back through healing). Then teaches Gohan after he beat him after Namek

@WrathfulSaiyan

2 ай бұрын

That could’ve worked well

Great story but what had me confused is why they didn’t revive vegeta and Nappa

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

Well on my part it was for story

@rickyhutchins6897

3 ай бұрын

They probably would not be able to be revive because they where still evil when they died

@dylanriddle782

3 ай бұрын

​@@rickyhutchins6897Not to mention, the planet they were on was long since destroyed. So even if they were revived, they would die again of oxygen deprivation.

@jHaySendDeadyz

3 ай бұрын

@@rickyhutchins6897huhh evil ppl could still be revived frieza got revived twice

@thedefragonian1605

2 ай бұрын

​@DntSpillDaTea Frieza was a special case because he was actually put in heaven by king Yema to torture him due to him being pure evil meaning he would never repent

nicely done & for idea's for gohan & goku's fusions - gokhan, gohaku

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

I know gokhan is the most popular one but since it was the fusion dance rather than the potara I wanted to look for a new name

Good luck with the writings. Amd go for that series.

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

Thank you!

I always enjoyed watching what if dragon ball videos

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

Same here

39:10 - 39:14 As soon as I saw future Gohan I liked the video also I just realized the Androids with kaioken are deadly

@WrathfulSaiyan

3 ай бұрын

Glad you like future gohan as much as i do

Nice work. Original storyline. Appreciate that

@ChrisBoyle-uy1tu

4 ай бұрын

Noooo. You killed Booo.. yeah great story

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

Amazing Movie 🤍🤍💚

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

Glad you like it

@chrisdash5917

4 ай бұрын

@@WrathfulSaiyan 😎😎

Really Great story!! Would love to see another what if with more Goten involved! Or Goten and Trunks more driven showing they have more potential than Gohan. Goku more involved in their

@WrathfulSaiyan

3 ай бұрын

That would be interesting

Pretty cool love piccolo with Kaioken

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

He no doubt would be the best user for Kaioken

Great job. Also, I wish Raditz got Ultra Ego.

@WrathfulSaiyan

2 ай бұрын

Thanks

The saga that replaced the namek saga makes no sense what so ever goku in the original timeline with a power lvl of 10,000 in 6 days in the gravity chamber got up to 90,000 and ur telling me after 5 years with the time chamber plus gravity chamber is 550,00 this makes zero sense

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

It was more for Vegeta and the gang for face frieza which replaced the namek saga. also with the training it was mainly guessing to where his strength would

@DaPharaohDaEmperor116

3 ай бұрын

​@@WrathfulSaiyan We were wondering why u rush the android saga. Finish the Frieza saga first then jump into the android saga. A little too rushed but was good.

Another good series

@SaiyanDekuX

4 ай бұрын

Yep and I hope we get more of this

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

Thank you

Love the Idea of the androids fighting Freeza

@WrathfulSaiyan

2 ай бұрын

Thanks!

This story could be dragonball if Toriyama Sensei could have remembered all of his charakters ^^ so nice one!!! just speak a little bit slower :D feels like a rap battle from time to time

@WrathfulSaiyan

21 сағат бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! and I will make sure to speak slower when doing my story telling

What if goku had frizas pontential

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

Ooo I like the idea

Super cool to have pikkon in the story. He's underrated af

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

He really is

@MonkeeMan

4 ай бұрын

@WrathfulSaiyan I was really hoping they'd do something with him in the Buu saga. Not just the movies. SSKaioken Goku vs Pikkon was awesome. Really showed Pikkons Potential. Dude basically kept up with the equivalent of a Super Saiyan 2 and they Saiyan Saga'd him by making him irrelevant 😂 such a waste

@MonkeeMan

4 ай бұрын

@WrathfulSaiyan You should do a series involving Turles. He's a really good character too. Doesn't even have to be anything like: Turles turns good. I think an anti hero role would suit him. Maybe switch up the time line somehow and have Turles help with the fight against Frieza for some character development.

45:01 - 45:03 I just realized future Gohan's pose/render is the same as Goku's

@WrathfulSaiyan

3 ай бұрын

lol yea

"is Future Gohan, and he is from the future" just sounded so hilariously out of place that it broke my immersion. Not mad about it, just a funny way of phrasing it is all

@WrathfulSaiyan

2 ай бұрын

lol I have been working on my grammar 😭

Just finished what if goku never stopped training? Now am watching it

@WrathfulSaiyan

2 ай бұрын

I hope you enjoy this series as well

@HappyGreyCat-ho7sc

2 ай бұрын

I am plus here a what if idea: What if king kai was a z fighter. IT would be interesting. It would be like in the saiyan saga instead of just training goku to learn kaio ken, he would just help them.

@HappyGreyCat-ho7sc

2 ай бұрын

Hope you do it

Do a what if goku went beyond great ape.. this is just a way to see something I don't see often, anyways ìt goes pretty much like normal but he has ikari, then he gets ssj, then he gets ssj 2 and then he'll hit a power ceiling and he'll combine ssj + Inari and get ssj4 and then someone will push him beyond that and he'll use ssj 2 with ikari which would just he like limit breaker ssj4 but then he'd have an idea, what if there's an ikari 2, basically a evolution to ikari like ssj2 and he combines that with ssj2 and gets ssj5... idk how the time would work and who'd he have to fight to be pushed so far but I think it might be cool. I just wanna see ssj5

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

I could maybe use ssj5 in the future for a what if possibly

If its Gokhan for potara, I think dance could be Kakhan like you said or Gohaku or Goherot/Gohito (Japanese/Dub lol)

@WrathfulSaiyan

12 күн бұрын

I feel like i couldve found a better name lol

1:04:40 ish or so, I heavily, HEAVILY disagree with calling Beast SSJ God at any point in time. That form is confirmed ungodly in the manga, and it doesn't have a trace of god ki on it. There's no way this adds up. As for the rest of the series, I'm pretty interested, it's really well thought out. Good work

@WrathfulSaiyan

2 ай бұрын

I’m glad you like it! I only called beast god in this what if is cause no one really got the actual god forms and with beast it was obtained with the Kais who would be consider a godly being which is why I’d say they would call that form instead of beast

Imagine being kneed so hard that your tail grew back

@WrathfulSaiyan

3 ай бұрын

Crazy knee to the stomach

In the 22nd world tournament time skip goku trained his tail

@WrathfulSaiyan

3 ай бұрын

I know but this what if is if goku could control his great ape as well

💚Also, thank you for this cool series. I was honestly waiting for the full series so that way I can check this out completely. For that I do have one interesting storyshift that only two people on youtube were Close to have ever done: What-if Goku willingly joined the Red Ribbon Army; Rise of the Red Ribbon Sayian! 🎀 ( the Red Ribbon Army created the Dragon Ball radar 1st, both Colonel Violet & Silver meet Goku while looking for the dragon balls and convince him to join them. Goku is titled Captain Orange: has Crane School & military training , became a poster boy that rose Commander Red 's self-esteem enough to plan for a different wish on the Dragon Ball, grows a friendship with Eightyer ,Silver, Gevo (Human 16), Vomi (Human 21) ,Violet & Launch. And Maybe Kakarot x Ranfan)

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

I do like the idea so I’ll keep it in mind

@tianoc-g4811

4 ай бұрын

@WrathfulSaiyan : Thank You; The Red Ribbon Sayian idea Has only been scratched upon by those very few youtubers and I'd love to see a full story of this with this particular beginning of goku joining willingly. It's the turn his own naivety against him yet the development of Military Disciplines and Political Education he would strive to make it better: having Revolutionary technology of capsule core with Authority and Influence of the world government.

This cast dominates the cannon cast,i think Goku may be able to match Black Frieza or beat him cus he can stack Ultra Instinct with Evolutionary Super Saiyan(Super Saiyan 4 or Primitive Super Saiyan),whihc would be an extremely powerful form which might be able to match Black Frieza or beat him.

@WrathfulSaiyan

2 ай бұрын

This Goku is definetly a much more powerful one than his canon self

very good and creative story, but it ruined it for me a bit that they did not revive vegeta and nappa

@WrathfulSaiyan

28 күн бұрын

I can understand that but even if they wanted to with the rules of dragon ball z, evil people could not be revive as their soul would’ve be sent to hell

@dynamospagetti

26 күн бұрын

@@WrathfulSaiyan right, but you could still make an exception as it is a what if. I mean frieza got also revived.

@Gohan9112

8 күн бұрын

On the contrary, once I'm glad Vegeta wasn't brought back to life. He didn't deserve mercy that he got in canon, so I appreciate fics where he's down for good.

@dynamospagetti

7 күн бұрын

@@Gohan9112 yes, but it´s a what if with all four sayans alive is always good

RIP AKIRA TORIYAMA😢

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

I heard about this and it really hurt me right in the heart

@bantheundead4162

4 ай бұрын

@@WrathfulSaiyan same😢

damn bro did vegeta dirty

@WrathfulSaiyan

3 ай бұрын

I feel bad how I did vegeta 😭

I think Gohaku would be a good name for a Goku Gohan fusion.

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

That sounds a lot better than what I came up with lol

What if wrathful sayian was in dragon ball? What if goten and trunks were older? (Raditz would come to earth earlier leading to vegeta coming earlier etc) What if vegito stayed fused (could go to gt if you want) What if a movie character was cannon (cooler turtles lord slug etc) What if goku was raised on/sent to planet cereal (I would love to see this) What if goku landed on planet cereal after Namek. What if goku was born and raised on yardrat. What if goku learned fusion early. These are just some ideas you don’t have to do any of them if you don’t want to but if you ever run out of ideas this comment is here

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

I will have these ideas in a google docs so I could always look at them when deciding my next what if

The thing was that during the 2nd martial arts tournament goku got control of it

@WrathfulSaiyan

3 ай бұрын

I meant more the power of the great ape

What the hell is this Goku fix this weakness for his tail by this point

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

He never was able to control the oozaru form

Can you do what if you were in dragon ball

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

I will in the future I would just need a lot of stuff to get together before I make the first part

I think gohaku would be a much better fusion name

@WrathfulSaiyan

3 ай бұрын

Probably that sounds a lot better

Great what if but king cold doesn't have a final form

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

canoncially he doesn't yea

Popo or anyone weakening Goku is an error because Goku mastered his tail before that. Unless Popo’s that strong or in your version it’s not completely mastered and was just effective against Krillin during the 22nd Tenkaichi Boudakai.

@sakuthesasquatch

4 ай бұрын

He’s technically super Saiyan two level

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

I mean master to use the power of the great ape

So this piccolo isn't fused with nail but i guess kaioken makes up for that😅

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

Definitely

....Why did people assume Goku still had that weakness. Since the tournament where Goku first fought Tien, his tail was already trained to not be a weakness. Krillin tried, and paid the price for it

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

I mean towards the part of Goku being able to use the oozaru form

@sora654able1

4 ай бұрын

@@WrathfulSaiyan I was talking about when Tien tried to go for the tail weakness early on during the tournament. Goku lost that YEARS ago, which Tien SHOULD know about. Just something that bugged me.

1:32:04 😂😂😂

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

lol

Wait, goku trained his tail before he met kami.

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

Yea I meant more if he was about to control the great ape form

What if goku and riditz were born elite saiyans What if goku was raised by kami for the sole purpose of becoming the new God of earth What if goku wished for eternal youth and abused the hyperbolic time chamber What if goku got that major zenkai boost and his potential unlocked on namek What if all these What ifs were one

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

Interesting what ifs

@triplexxx2174

4 ай бұрын

@@WrathfulSaiyan atmre you still responsive to late comments because I got another what idea What if the hyperbolic time chamber was equal to the way time worked in seven deadly sins purgatory 1 minute equals a year and therefore 1 day equals 1440 years

What if goku had friezas potential

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

I have the idea written down

30:53

@WrathfulSaiyan

Ай бұрын

Piccolo can make jokes

The sayain saga is a W for everyone vegeta respects goku eirlier raditz and nappa are alive they all get ikari :D

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

Glad you like the saiyan saga :)

What if goten trained under all the deities

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

Goten would be the stronger son

@user-qp2jp7zb6l

4 ай бұрын

@@WrathfulSaiyan make it a series if possible

57:24

@WrathfulSaiyan

12 күн бұрын

?

my only wish is vegeta being alive with raditz or without

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

I'm sorry that vegeta was left out

Bro slow down the music volume. All I could here is disturbing music

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

My apologies I will lower the music volume in the next video

Kami would have send goku and piccolo to king kai

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

One of them had to be dead

I'll let him cook

@WrathfulSaiyan

3 ай бұрын

Thank you

Why didnt you revive buu

@WrathfulSaiyan

26 күн бұрын

I feel like that type of being that buu was wouldn't have a soul

@CosmicGoku529

4 күн бұрын

@@WrathfulSaiyan Buu soul was reborn into Uub.

HOW is GOHAN THE LEGENDARY SUPER SAIYAN that makes no sense at all

@WrathfulSaiyan

2 ай бұрын

I altered in it the way that controlling the ape form could go two ways. Ssj4 or the legendary super saiyan which would be the more uncontrolled state

HOW TE FUCK DID GOHAN GET LSSJ

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

Combination of akari state with ssj

What if Goku and Gohan had the beast form

@SaiyanDekuX

4 ай бұрын

You meant chi chi and gohan got beast

@ashique8282

4 ай бұрын

Already done by salad saiyan

@SaiyanDekuX

4 ай бұрын

@@ashique8282 Ik

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

I could try to attempt

@ashique8282

4 ай бұрын

@@WrathfulSaiyan that will be great. All the best

Should of done GT

@tigerlord9302

4 ай бұрын

That would have to be separate.

@howtogoogle8031

4 ай бұрын

@@tigerlord9302 ot sincce this is what if alternate timeline ralith scenaior dimension universe gt follows the event so ofsuper only instad od picoclo sacrificing himself he doesnt goku can easily telport the kaic an give them a challenge omessga shanron is form the balck star regular earth draogn balls namkeasin cereealean etc and the usper draogn balsl jsut imagine this shenron fromt he negtive enrgy dont take goku but rather picco[lorather than piccolodyeing he can eb the new guardian for this shenron but not before metging withboth universe 6 and 7 namkeians

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

I will do gt related what if next

Not to be that guy but goku trained his tail in original dragonball for the tournament where he met tien. He fought Krillin, krillin grabbed Fokus tail and goku fell to the ground and waited dor the count to hit 9 before he stood up like nothing happened while Krillen was still squeezing his tail

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

Yea I know I meant more if he could use the great ape power

I didn't even click on this video. What a sleezy tactic to get views.

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

What do you mean lol

@triplexxx2174

4 ай бұрын

@@WrathfulSaiyan seems like he accidentally clicked on this video but is in denial and is now blaming you for it

what if goku potential was double

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

He would be double strong

@aeo2oe

2 ай бұрын

@@WrathfulSaiyan 5

This power level you put in each your video it realy break immersion to the story and ruin the whole stroy telling

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

Im sorry but people do ask for power levels during the what if

@MicheleFerraraGamer

4 ай бұрын

@@WrathfulSaiyan what a shame, it ruin the story and immersin breaking it. Good amount of story interupted with such power level explantion. take an exemple from the one who tall the story of dragonabl maybe you would learn lot of it of the story need to be wrtten. I'm sick and tired about power level scaligng that trull force me to skip such part and can relly enjoy the story. it kind killjoy and kill my mood. Just do side vido to let them know something about and do not put these power level in this what if . becou it break immersion really bad move to do it. I don't like when my immersion got beak by power scaling level. just take toryiama as example he nevel put power scaling in work, expang if it was mean to be the wit scouter as in sayins saga

@nickluea1794

4 ай бұрын

​@@WrathfulSaiyan please don't listen to this guy, I speak for others as well we really appreciate power scaling to help us know how strong the characters have become

Can you do a what if goku and krilen become homosexual lovers and gohan is there adopted son who comes out as transgender.

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

interesting

@MrAdamBrower

4 ай бұрын

​@WrathfulSaiyan, please don't. Your what ifs are better than that.

Im not trying to be negative against your hard work ... but i have to point out a very very in your face fact that does kinda ruin this whole thing. The TAIL IS THE LIMITER ! Notice how once the tail was removed the potential was higher for every single saiyan. Goku Vegeta Gohan Broly Trunks Goten. Even if that fact isn't said all the evidence lines up. Dragon ball GT is a bunch of big budget fan made nonsense so this argument about SS4 being more aligned with the saiyans as a transformation is also nonsense. There is a lot of symbolism with the loss of the tail meaning the beast took a step forward in their evolution to humane all the way to Godhood now. Thats the way the story was always intended to flow. SS4 was step back toward the savage beast again.

@WrathfulSaiyan

4 ай бұрын

I dont think that is true but it could all be based on speculation or the viewers thoughts

@garryjohnson9328

4 ай бұрын

@WrathfulSaiyan I'm not saying it's fact but if you lay out all the evidence..it's fact

@Chillzar.0

4 ай бұрын

But then why are the u6 saiyans so weak?

@tactical2234

4 ай бұрын

It’s true that the tail limits the sayians bc u6 sayians are insanely strong. Cabba compared to vegeta in base to base and vegeta had 2 decades of training and had trained under whis BUT ITS A WHAT IF, what ifs are supposed to be fan fic so they’re allowed to bend the rules and lore if you disagree go watch another video there’s probably 100k+ what ifs out there go watch another one

@BatmanShark

4 ай бұрын

​@@tactical2234Literally