Whoever says Death Battle never let Dragon Ball win shut up. Goji only has 1 DB win on his channel.

@Alejandro333777

7 ай бұрын

That’s not even true whoever said that haven’t been watching death battle that long

@DeamonDragoon

7 ай бұрын

@@Alejandro333777 they probably only watched Goku vs superman or Vegeta vs thor

@cooler1679

7 ай бұрын

Yea if anything they don't let Sonic win.

@soraeatsredtireyummyyummy9603

7 ай бұрын

Let me list all the Ws and Ls for both series at the top of my head if you're curious. Dragon Ball: Vegeta vs Shadow: W Goku vs Superman 1: L Goku vs Superman 2: L Kirby vs Majin Buu: L Hercule vs Dan: W 18 vs Captain Marvel: W Roshi vs Jiryah: W Beerus vs Galaxia: W Hulk vs Broly: W Goku Black vs Reverse Flash: L Thor vs Vegeta: L X. Trunks vs A. Silver: L Gogeta vs Vegeto: W/L Frieza vs Megatron: W Goku vs Superman 3: pending... Sonic: Mario vs Sonic 1: W Vegeta vs Shadow: L Eggman vs Wily: ? Luigi vs Tails: W Amy vs Remona: W DK vs Knuckles: L Shadow vs Mewtwo: L Metal vs Zero: L Mario vs Sonic 2: L Wally West vs A. Sonic: L Shadow vs Ryuko: W X. Trunks vs A. Silver: W Let me be clear, I don't give af about who wins, I just like characters from different series interact with each other

@Bigsmoke-tn3wf

7 ай бұрын

@@cooler1679l mean Archie Silver won his Death Battle against Xeno trunks

Goku is basically a powerscaler's punching bag. He either gets completely obliterated or destroys whoever he's up against.

@unstronzo3517

7 ай бұрын

He is the wall that separates the fodder from gods

@sirrw294

7 ай бұрын

I kinda like that he got that role of gatekeeper like that given how popular he's been for forever

@Replies.Delete.SometimesIDKy

7 ай бұрын

Except goku is a mid tier in an ocean of mid tiers.

@sridrawings4510

7 ай бұрын

@@Replies.Delete.SometimesIDKy no...he is not

@dsm2417

7 ай бұрын

@@Replies.Delete.SometimesIDKy he clears ur fav verse

I didn’t even know Sonic and Shadow (in the games) were THIS STRONG 😭

@sumnahlennon5449

7 ай бұрын

They are not. But if you compile inconsistencies, power scalers can say any nonsense. Sonic and Silver can be killed by motorbugs or thrown coconuts in new Sonic games. Super Sonic flying into some pbjects cause him to lose rings. Its possible to ignorr all of that to nitpick and say the characters are 5D. But thats false as Super Sonic cannot escape dimensions by himself like in Frontiers. He is not 5D. Hard enough robot attacks can hurt him.

@Clonmare

7 ай бұрын

​​​@@sumnahlennon5449ah yes, yep, the same sonic that can be damage to rocks than be thrower from multiversal creatures, the same sonic than can resist a entire battle ship, yep, man please stop saying that, sonic is 5d and you can't say he isn't by just "oh sonic can die if he hit a coconut", sonic has a lot of resistent feats like resist erazor attacks in base, when erazor has absorbed to 1000 or even infinites universes of the 1001 nights

@ef-jkota3611

7 ай бұрын

@@sumnahlennon5449GOOFY, bro you have to understand, that scaling power of video game characters consists of STORY BASED CONTENT. Not gameplay goofy, in the story rings don’t power super sonic, sonic in base has survived black wholes and falling into earths orbit multiple times, and even escaped the void infinite trapped him in, WITH HIS SPEED IN BASE.

@ef-jkota3611

7 ай бұрын

@@sumnahlennon5449That’s like playing a dragonball game and pinning saiyan saga vegeta against fused zamasu and saying saiyan saga vegeta is stronger than zamasu because he beat him in game.

@rimurutempest9733

7 ай бұрын

@@ef-jkota3611 i 100% agree with you on this

Does this get us one step closer to Silver vs Goku's Balls?

@ghidorahhasrisen7178

7 ай бұрын

yes

@markandrew287

7 ай бұрын

"HOW ABOUT THIS!" *_"GYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-"_*

@Clonmare

7 ай бұрын

You make the real questions

@helixsol7171

7 ай бұрын

Testicular torsion

@XxEggman_Meme_GodxX

7 ай бұрын

@@markandrew287 i know it was meant to be gokus scream but I read that in my head as the sonic unleashed werehog death scream

Sonic has definitely grown in power over the years

@sumnahlennon5449

7 ай бұрын

No, there is just inconsistency. Randomness from Ken Pontac. The weakest display was is Super Sonic dying after crashing into a rock in Unleashed.

@starsonic3607

7 ай бұрын

​@@sumnahlennon5449excuse me dying? Could you explain it better please

@RockyOkamy00

7 ай бұрын

​@@sumnahlennon5449that straigth up never happen dude lmao

@Squeam9750

7 ай бұрын

​@@sumnahlennon5449Good to know you're not a legitimate power scaler my guy.

@Squeam9750

7 ай бұрын

​@@starsonic3607 He's pulling shit out from his ass

Even if Goku and Vegeta team up against Solaris, they would need Broly to actually defeat him. Past, Present and Future, all Solaris...Solarises? Solari! All of them need to be defeated at once.

@emerald_a_op4400

6 ай бұрын

Doesn’t trunks have a Time Machine?

@_veloxity91

6 ай бұрын

@@emerald_a_op4400 With the Time Machine, you can only go to one time period at a time, along with the limited supply of power. As I said, Solaris needs to be defeated at the same time in the Past, Present AND the Future.

@ashuraomega1000

4 ай бұрын

Goku himself would stomp the piss out of Solaris in base. The only problem would be that he can't defeat him in the past, present and future at the same time but even then he could just use the time machine to get to each version of Solaris.

@herke7237

3 ай бұрын

​@@ashuraomega1000That won't work bro. He needs to defeat Solaris in the Past, Present, and Future Simultaneously. He can't use the time machine

@StevenJones851

Ай бұрын

Goku still losses with Broly's Help

Both Sonic and Shadow has the acability to breath in space meanwhile Goku and Vegeta barely cannot

@dsm2417

7 ай бұрын

So? they can exist in places without time

@zakstorm9191

7 ай бұрын

@@dsm2417this places still have living conditions

@blametheghost

7 ай бұрын

​@@dsm2417so can 2 sonics, 2 tails, 2 eggmen, knuckles, Amy, cream, Rogue, blaze, vector, espio, charmy, silver and shadow and classic metal Sonic (who is weaker than classic sonic)

@DevinGamerz0629

7 ай бұрын

​@@blametheghost Plus Chaos Control, which is Shadow's signature move

@blametheghost

7 ай бұрын

@@DevinGamerz0629 which sonic can also use, even with a fake emerald

Crazy how different in power anime and manga characters should be. Specially considering that manga goku never absorbs god in base.

@Joyscp999

7 ай бұрын

yeah,it should be separated,not united,both versions are different

@elcrakcultraporxchara3260

7 ай бұрын

@@Joyscp999 honestly as a sonic fan, Goku's feat were really ignored here, specially considering that heaven alone its atleast a 4D space without counting the rest of the cosmos+demon realm+mortal realm+kaioshin planet. I think that sonic would win but no way in hell it would be as easy as this guy thinks, Goku and vegeta could also ignore solaris and infinite with hakai. Hell, Ian flynn confirmed that solaris is still the highest tier villain on the franchise. And solaris cannot stack to "infinite times multiversal" or multi+ because it was slowly destroying and not instatly, theres even lefting space voids like the ones in which our protags are in.

@TakeshiInazuma

7 ай бұрын

He does. Goku in the DBS Manga does not absorb the power, but he trained with Whis and increased his power to SSG levels. While not shown in said manga, it is supplemented by the movie, the anime, and even the promotional Resurrection F manga Toyotaro made.

@elcrakcultraporxchara3260

7 ай бұрын

@@TakeshiInazuma the promotional manga was made years before super. Also, "yeah its not shown in the manga or any canon product of it and we never see it too. But trust me it is canon for appearing in other non-canon media!!!"

@Maverick13377

7 ай бұрын

@@elcrakcultraporxchara3260 his feet are weird

This video lowkey inspired me to do some Sonic scaling with anime versus! Nice video Goji, im a new supporter but I already love your stuff!

@Goji-C

7 ай бұрын

New supporter, old supporter, I’m grateful for all of you guys fr. And I’m glad i could inspire you to make your own stuff. I look foward to it fr!

Finally someone who understands The End and Infinite's power! Btw, since Infinite out sped Sonic, wouldn't that mean that,now, they'd both have irrelevant speed?

@supermaximglitchy1

7 ай бұрын

In his first scene i used to think infinite simply placed a projection next to him that everyone could see it wasn’t really infinite but the phantom ruby that did most of the feats if not all of the feats that is what I think

@i_like_videogames9517

7 ай бұрын

@@supermaximglitchy1 Yeah I know, pretend like I was talking about Infinite with the Phantom Ruby

@theautisticbeaver4885

6 ай бұрын

Nobody in sonic has irrelevant speed

@i_like_videogames9517

6 ай бұрын

@@theautisticbeaver4885 Then... Why does what I just said make sense?

@theautisticbeaver4885

6 ай бұрын

@@i_like_videogames9517 it doesn’t

"so does Krillin" took me tf out 🤣

Best of luck to Goku and Vegeta when it comes to Solaris.🤷💁‍♂️

@ultrainstinctgokuhope7442

7 ай бұрын

I kinda little tired that they always use canon goku and vegeta, I kinda want to see game versions of goku and vegeta since they are more interesting

@Roto3

7 ай бұрын

How? They're literally get chaos emeralds now their in the sonic universe.

@cryingmetal9349

7 ай бұрын

​@@Roto3even if they had the chaos emeralds they cant do anything about his omnipresense

@porobotboyxxx

7 ай бұрын

@@Roto3 Oh, good point. But they most likely wouldn’t use them out of pride… unless they really had too.🤔

@porobotboyxxx

7 ай бұрын

@@cryingmetal9349 Technically neither could Sonic and Shadow, since Silver was needed to fight Solaris in the future. So Goku and Vegeta would need Trunks help and the possibly the Chaos Emeralds to defeat Solaris.

For me personally, I feel like you can argue goku and Vegeta being 5D once they surpassed Broly in power. But I don’t think that really changes much since speed is pretty much what they’re lacking.

@mufasa5288

7 ай бұрын

Immeasurable speee db is consistent 🗣

@whimzzalot

7 ай бұрын

@@mufasa5288 no it isnt 😭

@mufasa5288

7 ай бұрын

@@whimzzalot so zamasu didn’t happen huh?

@axiom6000

7 ай бұрын

They lack power aswell, 5D is low for Sonic. He gets much higher.

@mufasa5288

7 ай бұрын

@@axiom6000 well based off the scaling presented in the vid I don’t believe goku and vegeta can beat The end that’s stated to be infinitely above prior villains but besides that villain they should be able to beat the 3 first villains due to 5D scaling

For the actual character scaling I thought you were going to use Archie Sonic for a minute there. I never realized video game Sonic was actually that powerful

2:28 You can’t get from Low Multi to Multiversal with multipliers. Even if you can blow up…let’s say 2 entire space time continuums, if you double your power, you won’t be able to destroy 4 due to each additional universe being an entire infinite gap, and Multiversal would equate to 1000 separate space time continuums. The entire DB Macrocosm is 12 universes of about 3 universal to infinite 3-D sized space time continuums

@youngfish1370

6 ай бұрын

The universe 7 macrocosm is infinite with multiple infinities inside of it that destroying it makes you outer

@jocoolshow

6 ай бұрын

@@youngfish1370 Without context, what you just describe is simply layered High 3-A since you didn’t say they’re separate space times. However with separate space times included, that’s 2-A+ or Multiversal plus scaling to infinite multiverses Not outer

@theautisticbeaver4885

6 ай бұрын

⁠@@jocoolshowit has several separate space times an example being the hyperbolic time chamber. Despite a few narrative flaws dbsh is a sequel to the dbs anime which connects the canon to the “non canon” making it canon. Be honest though don’t act like sonics writing has been above mediocre for the last 20 years. Going off of this the multiverse is stated to be infinite numerous times with infinite numbers of paths and inside of them along with several infinite structures inside of them. I’m getting tired of using the word infinite.

Low-mid diff is crazy It’s literally neg diff speedblitz for the hedgehogs +they have way better abilities

This video pandered to my kid self and teenage self with your analysis of Sonic and Dragon Ball respectively, and I loved it. After checking out your channel and seeing what videos you produce, I gotta say you must keep up this good work

so basically... this video is about infinite. thats real epic

actually sonic and shadow and silver destroyed 3 different solarises and that was them in super form fighting alone.

I wished that people weren't so toxic to each other and had fun when debating

Now I want to see an Equal Stats Fight between these two teams.

Peak as usual!!!

i dare you to power scale biblically accurate angels and compare them to dragonball characters

Saying Goku doesn't even scale to 5D is fucking bonkers. The cosmology and mortal universe scales to beyond 4D. The afterlife is a higher dimension so 4D to 5D depending on if you take time as the 4th dimension. The entire macrocosm + kaioshin realm would all be around 5D all the universal constructs in universe 7 are infinite in size with different levels of infinity but Goku doesn't have infinite power. Meaning his power simply surpasses it in dimensionality. The 6D finite power is superior to 5D infinity. Hence how and why he can handle a power that threatens the destruction of universe 7 as early as the start of super. Thus proving anime Goku scales beyond 6D and probably even higher. When you look at the facts Goku has scaled beyond Sonic ever since the beginning of super and the anime continuity isn't even the Canon version of dragon Ball (which scales much higher than the anime).

@uzer141

Ай бұрын

This video downplayed both DB’s cosmology and even Sonic’s cosmology. For Goku - As u pointed out the afterlife could be argued to be super-dimensional by the guidebook, but even if not, Goku and Vegeta have been super-dimensional since Broly according to Whis’ statement. As for Sonic and Shadow, they would still stomp because their cosmology is ridiculously. I’d go into detail but if u don’t want to read me ramble, Sonic vs the big three explains the absurd power gap of Sonic in Base and even Super Sonic. Basically, Sonic in Base is already 6D after the events of Forces, and with his Super form, he becomes broken by the time of Frontiers.

@arkkon2740

27 күн бұрын

It all upscales from BOG so even if yyou want to say BoG goku is 4d somehow, there's no viable scaling or feats that would get him any higher than that, and I'll bring up the notable mentions Jiren being stronger than Beerus is contentious on its own. Considering Beerus is still way beyond goku and Vegeta in the manga, on top of the fact that the manga is much farther in, you can argue that the manga retroactively changes the context of the statement. Jiren surpassing hit has nothing to do with surpassing time. Taking Vados' statement at face value would also be disregarding context as Hit's abilities still revolve around his original time bubble technique, if Jiren is somehow special by besting Hit, then Goku should have gotten to that stage of power a long time ago Goku coming back to the timeline in itself is an outlier. Trunks opened the pod so that means he's somehow that strong, the time machine logically just shouldn't even be there and I doubt we're gonna argue about a 4D time machine that's no different from the one trunks took. It also disregards any statements harconing back to the saiyans needing oxygen, and its only really contradicted in filler. Not to mention that this would also deminish Jiren being above time as not only did Goku NEED to take the time machine back, that just makes Jiren seem like he just caught up - rather than already being again. Otherworld being a seperate dimension doesn't make it a higher dimension. Many characters can travel back and forth as they please even prior to the saiyan saga, and events in the mortal realm happen in real time compared to either otherworld or the kaioshin realm. They're merely different dimensions, none of them are explicitly higher than the other. Kami has gone back and forth many times canonically, and yet he can't even hold onto the mafuba long enough to seal DKP, do you know how often weaker characters have sealed stronger beings with that move, especially in Super?? You can argue that BoG was also a chain reaction statement rather than pure power. If the destruction of the living universe would kill off the rest of the cosm, then that's no different from the sun's supernova being able to destroy the solar system. Also I have to add, if the traveling waves got stronger as they went out, then that cant be contributed to Goku or Beerus' power at that moment either, which is just MORE chain reactions

@RetroMagnus761

27 күн бұрын

@@arkkon2740 Jiren surpassed his OWN god of destruction. Not the others. I'm not debating with someone who didn't even watch the show lmfao

@arkkon2740

27 күн бұрын

@@RetroMagnus761 Besides the fact that the anime made many implications of Beerus and Uni 11's GoD are similar in power, they've gone back and forth on this constantly and we'll have to see where the anime goes to actually confirm any of this And if you noticed, i brought up the manga multiple times for this

I was about to roast you on the idea Infinite isn’t the strongest, I’m glad you took that out the video😂

@axiom6000

7 ай бұрын

I gotta disagree with Time Eater being low multi, he was going to destroy all of Space and Time. Ian says Time Eater is unbounded by the concepts of Space and Time, would this not make Time Eater way higher than low multiversal?

@dino_mite8403

7 ай бұрын

​@@axiom6000 funny how you take what Ian says to heart once it supports ur argument, but suddenly whatever he says that supports Solaris > the end you disregard all of it

@axiom6000

7 ай бұрын

@@dino_mite8403 Bro, I took what Ian said to heart because it’s supported by the game. Solaris being the strongest villain isn’t supported by the game, and even Ian’s bosses do not agree with him. Ian was just giving his opinion, also Ian has said before that The End is the strongest.

@dino_mite8403

7 ай бұрын

@@axiom6000 Solaris being weaker than the end was never supported by the games, Ian's bosses have not claimed the end was the strongest and Ian has also said that the end is merely a planetary threat which is supported by the games as the end is compared to dark Gaia and was shown destroying the koko's home world

@axiom6000

7 ай бұрын

@@dino_mite8403 Yes it is lmao, The End says it’s superior to all of Sonics previous villains. Kishimoto the creator of Sonic Frontiers says The Titians are as strong as Sonics previous villains. And then Eitaro Toyoda says Infinite is the strongest villain(at the time of Sonic Forces) make it make sense why I would take Ian’s word over his bosses? Ian isn’t a god, he is bound by what SEGA/Sonic Team says, and higher ups in Sonic Team disagree with him. Ian is wrong when he says that too, we know this because The End wants to consume all. We also know that The End ITSELF SAYS THAT ITS THE STRONGEST THING SONIC HAS FACED! Meaning it’d HAVE to be stronger than planetary. Another problem with taken Ian Flynn as god is he contradicts himself, how can we fully trust what Ian says when he contradicts himself?

Goku and Vegeta are powerful but they will be stopped by the Time Eater. The Time Eater was going to destroy all of Sonic’s cosmology which is high into 7D. Dragon Ball’s cosmology isn’t that big (5D) compared to Sonic’s. Sonic and Shadow would beat the verse since they both are comparable to each other and scale to their big feats, fought and defeated Solaris and Time Eater (two powerful deities that were going to destroy the cosmology which included Sonic’s Multiverse, Maginaryworld, and White Space.)

@porobotboyxxx

7 ай бұрын

The Time Eater could threaten Maginaryworld? Solaris I get, but the Time Eater?

@Joyscp999

7 ай бұрын

@@porobotboyxxx In part yes, maginaryworld is part of the space-time of the entire multiverse, being that in itself, it is a reality that is part of the multiverse (even so it contains all the dreams of the multiverse)

@porobotboyxxx

7 ай бұрын

@@Joyscp999 Sonic Team needs to make Cosmology map of Sonic’s Multiverse already. Cause I thought Maginaryworld would be above the Sonic Multiverse, similar to that of DC’s multiverse map. Hence why I questioned if the Time Eater could threaten Maginaryworld.

@sumnahlennon5449

7 ай бұрын

Solaris and Dark Gaia can harm Super Sonic by throwing earth rocks. In Sonic Unleashed, Super Sonic flying and crashing into an earth rock causes him to die or lose rings. Stop making up stuff about Super Sonic's durability that not even Sega believes

@sumnahlennon5449

7 ай бұрын

*The story of Sonic Generations takes place in an alternate time dimension. Thats why they could battle Time Eater*

Personally I do think Goku and Vegeta could get past Solaris due to the use of Hakai, which is supposed to erase you from existence, even across timelines. The only reason this failed to kill Goku Black when present day Zamasu died was because of his time ring protecting him from changes to his personal timeline. So a combined hakai from both Vegeta and Goku could likely do the trick. However they still have a problem when it comes to fighting Infinite. One aspect of Infinite that wasn't mentioned in this video is that out of Shadow's own mouth, the copies of other characters Infinite creates are equal in strength to the originals. Its a bit awkward since Shadow says this line after one shotting his own copy, meaning Shadow is strong enough to one shot himself. Anyways, just Imagine if Infinite made multiple copies of Goku and Vegeta. A whole Army of them.

@matitheanimator

7 ай бұрын

If characters like beerus can eliminate everything with the hakai, why did they fear zeno and the grand priest? Ma'man you are taking the hakai too literal, goku can only eliminate characters that are less powerful than him

@5h0ckblock

7 ай бұрын

@@matitheanimator I'm not being too literal. Goku Black out of his own mouth mentioned that the time ring protected him. Anyways you're completely misunderstanding why I even mention Hakai. You see Solaris has to be defeated in the past, present and future simultaneously for him to actually be put down for good. This is why it took Sonic, Silver and Shadow combined. But with Goku and Vegeta, there's only two of them. This is why I said they need to do it combined. With both characters scaling to multiversal, a combined Hakai would make up the difference. I'm not labeling Hakai as some instant win button, I'm saying it's literally their only option.

So I do have some issue with the dragon ball speed scaling as inaccessible and immeasurable are inconsistent with other feats, like why do characters still use teleportation if their combat speed is beyond teleportation ya know? Also for the sonic speed scaling the fight was Sonic in the PResent, Shadow in the Past, and Silver in the future. That isn't a speed feat, the best speed feat for inaccessible speed is being able to move in sonic generations hub world as it is a realm without time. And the other immeasureable speed arguments are fine.

@Joyscp999

7 ай бұрын

1.yeah,the dragon ball has alot of problems,even the ''inaccesible''speed one,considering: A.time still exist there,zeno didn't erase it B.literraly the hit thing is precognition or time resistance(the worst time resistance ever) 2.Even so, they manage to dodge attacks from Solaris, and Solaris attacks at all times because it is omnipresent, and immeasurable speed has more to do with going beyond linear time, and not with being temporally omnipresent. 3.It also has no space, since time eater erases space and time, so it would be immeasurable speed anyway

@aidiot778

7 ай бұрын

Rudo I can prob help with that. 1. I assume this is in relation to future zeno erasing a timeline, yes time is still there as evidenced by the time machine (Also hit has timeskip so Goku forced himself into the future if u take it literal, I take it like diavolo's Time erase tbf) 2. Solaris is temporal omnipresent and immeasurable I doubt as if we go by vsbattles "Immeasurable (Movement unbound from the flow of linear time, which cannot be measured. Given that S = D/T, if T is undefined, the speed formula cannot be applied.) Solaris only exists in those three states so omnipresent technically, immeasurable no. 3. Time eater is actually correct and this video should've swapped solaris with it since solaris has no answer to it

@Joyscp999

7 ай бұрын

@@aidiot778 ok

Ngl the cosmology difference is to high the db humans would one shot him and goku and vegeta could destroy the verse by existing

I heavily disagree that the Daizenshuu and guide book statements surrounding DBZ aren't consistent enough. The statements surrounding the Dragon Ball cosmology were made by Toriyama himself and have never been directly contradicted by any other statements made by the writers or anything in the series itself. Even the Daizenshuu alone has many statements that directly say that the Dragon Ball universe is infinite in size with multiple universe sized realms and constructs that make up the macrocosm of universe 7. I don't know about you but that seems consistent enough to me. None of the statements are "inconsistent" at all since they only add upon each other. And even if this wasn't the case, Goku still has many feats in both the anime and manga that put him past 4D at a lowball when you scale him correctly.

This FINALLY proved to my friend that Mario is losing against Sonic, none of that bullshit "oh but he got light speed reaction"! Like bro come on!😂

@mrme.484

7 ай бұрын

Mario then hitting that faster than sonic speed reactions

@otakuboy1570

7 ай бұрын

@@mrme.484 What?

@khalidsaeedali8756

5 ай бұрын

​@@mrme.484🌝

This was a pretty awesome scaling for the 2 duo's, also the fact that at the end of the frontiers DLC fight, the end is not only able to damage super sonic giving scratch's and stuff, but he was also able to knock him unconscious, in unleashed he did get tired from fighting dark gaia, but i think that's a bit understandable since dadk gaia is the embodiment of darkness with negative energy, and super sonic is mostly powered by positive energy, but yeah again awesome scaling for the 2 duo's mainly the hedgehog duo for me personally

The SSG multipler is basically SSJ3 Vegetio compared to Base Goku via Goku doubting the fusion would defeat Beerus. Just thought I'd mention that.

Nice video!

Wow, that’s an interesting concept for power scaling

4:00 literally the power scaling in dragon ball after the battle of gods ☠️:

I really liked this video great job. DBZ and Sonic are really fun to scale and battle against. You did a very good job not down playing either verse (imo)

Great video and scaling bro

@Goji-C

7 ай бұрын

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Awesome video! God Bless.

new video lets goo 🥳

Bro the sonic vs goku was how I become a dragon ball fan bro! Thanks. SO. SONIC VS GOKU WHEN-

@iphone5s659

7 ай бұрын

Lol base sonic solo goku

@XxEggman_Meme_GodxX

7 ай бұрын

@@iphone5s659definitely not base sonic if you mean game sonic, he would win as super sonic, or maybe super sonic 2 if people wanna argue gokus bullshit stuff

@Archie.Phantom

6 ай бұрын

@@XxEggman_Meme_GodxXNope Game Base Sonic>Goku

@XxEggman_Meme_GodxX

6 ай бұрын

@@Archie.Phantom naw mate, I like the guy but no. He might have beaten perfect chaos in base, but like there’s a lot of dragon ball characters millions of times stronger than him, and considering it took sonic like 6 games to reach his adventure super level of power in base, he ain’t millions of times stronger. He gonna need to go super sonic. Just like accept it and bang, goku still HEAVILY dies but sonic isn’t the jesus of powerscaling

@Archie.Phantom

6 ай бұрын

@@XxEggman_Meme_GodxX I know that sonic just scales higher and sonic>Zeno because of space-time erasure resistance

Which is stronger, Current game Sonic or Archie Sonic?

Definitely drop more sonic vids

I would disagree with the assumption that each Titan from frontiers are all Solaris level characters. Because super sonic shadow and silver had to team up to take Solaris down together all at once. And only super sonic fought each titan.

@Kiezly

15 күн бұрын

Sonic would have never beat Solaris without two other super form users by his side.

I have a huge recommendation if I can? Could I get a measure on Speedrun Mario, from Terminal Montage, versus a speedster of your choice? I don't think anyone has calculated Speed-Run mario at all and would love to see a video on it.

Pure facts.

Okay so game sonic is stronger than Goku now. Ohhh this is going to make some people unhappy with this.

ngl i'd watch a 1 hour video of going through all of their villains

Where is the Omni man vs word girl vid

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@_pxchi.

7 ай бұрын

HAPPY KATE THANKSGIVING GOAT

The super hedgehogs don't scale to Solaris. Before I get into this I want to say I don't think it taking Silver, Sonic, and Shadow meant much. All are implied to be relative in their super forms and if one of them could exist in the past, present, and future just like Solaris you would really only need 1. With that out of the way I'll get into why I personally don't think the super hedgehogs scale to Solaris. Eggman himself thought it was impossible to destroy a super dimensional being. The team said they can't destroy its form, they had to mind rape Solaris. "Even if we can't stop his form, we can stop his consciousness!". To put the nail in the coffin Elise asks Sonic if we destroyed Solaris and he blatantly replies with No. Only way that makes sense is if he didn't beat Solaris or he was referring to him needing help from Silver and Shadow which I think we can both agree is not what was being implied. Still it can be used to give Team Sonic some good telepathy if you assume Solaris also has godlike mind resistance (Which is pretty unlikely given that they couldnt hurt his form and went to hurt his mind; wouldnt make sense if his mind is relative to his form) I do think the Time Eater point is valid to give the *Super Form* immeasurable speed. All though it's pretty clear Sonic wasn't doing that. Tails says they are travelling through time and space which means Sonic wasn't travelling outside time. "When that thing goes through time (referring to time eater)) it tears space apart leaving the areas empty and dead, and sticking them in this weird white limbo! When the sonic's *accelerate through time* they fix space, returning color and life!". Base Sonic in Generations probably doesn't scale to Perfect Chaos, he just found a new way to access it's weak spot (I.E, boost). Theres really nothing to assume Sonic in Adventure couldn't hurt Perfect Chaos, it's just that he couldn't get to it, his Super form allowed him to and now boosting allows him to. Eggman referring to Infinite as an "unstoppable creation" is very clearly hyperbole given... it's from Eggman, he always says his latest creation is his strongest and will be the one to defeat Sonic. As for the titans being stronger or as strong as beings like Solaris, just no. They are saying imagine if the first boss in Frontiers is as strong as the previous from a *gameplay standpoint*. As in, Sonic has to turn Super to defeat them. Without that and with Ian Flynn saying the end is cocky and arrogant it's pretty clear The End's scaling is hit or miss (Especially when you consider the titans can scale to weaker final bosses using that logic). Solaris wasn't susceptible to the Super Hedgehogs attacks as I already established. Solaris is still the strongest villain in Sonic. He probably does beat Goku and Vegeta but Sonic and Shadow probably stop somewhere at around Fat Buu with speed carrying them to this point.

@Joyscp999

7 ай бұрын

1.The reason not to destroy Solaris is because he is immortal, literally Iblis can constantly resurrect no matter how much you kill him, do people forget that Solaris is still part Iblis? and there is nothing that says that his mind is weaker than the rest of his body, because literally apart from the fact that it is the only way to defeat him definitively (ignoring the flame of solaris of course) the thing resists many blows from the super forms Something that not even the armor could resist, and I don't have to explain why the armor should scale to the power of Solaris because it would be very obvious. and no,for scaling you don't need to beat a character,actually beating a character makes you upscale,what makes you scale is the fact that you have affected the character,significantly enough,and like you see in the fight,yeah,they pretty much affect solaris,they break his armor,block his attacks and They return them (silver) and even damage their consciousness, which resists much more than their own armor. 2.It doesn't matter if it is inside or outside of time (besides, in reality there is no time, even Eggman himself mentions it, so what tails actually refers to erased time, not time itself) is immeasurable, immeasurable speed It has to do with moving beyond linear time, and literally traveling through time and space is going beyond linear time. 3.boosting only makes him faster, not stronger, plus the ''weak'' point of chaos is not infinitely weaker,it is just the hit spot of chaos,and remind you,chaos is a being made out of water,so you cannot tecnically hit him and damage him like you will normally do, and even with that, his brain is still able to rebuild itself from chaos by turning into water or being spread into water, so technically it is not the weakest point of chaos, it is rather the point where it is possible to harm him and no, it is not really, considering that eggman is the most intelligent character in his franchise (tails included) but if they make mistakes it is because they are not capable of making mistakes, but making mistakes does not automatically mean that you do not have reasons sometimes. 4.Ian Flynn can sometimes contradict himself with what he says, sometimes he doesn't even remember certain things in the lore. and we must keep in mind that the titans are capable of fighting a super sonic that is far beyond the capabilities of a super sonic in his adventure era (2006 rather) so obviously yes, the super sonic The fight against Solaris is far behind. Besides the fact that Sonic needed a power up to defeat The End, something that no villain ever needed, which clearly puts The End above and a lot more than Solaris, Solaris can be temporarily omnipresent and all that, but in power he falls short.

@jaynothinelse

7 ай бұрын

Mind rape 💀

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Sonic's powerscaling is kinda insane I mean I am a Sonic fan and I still think it's insane Considering that base Sonic should now be stronger then even Solaris My little spiky man solos

@sumnahlennon5449

7 ай бұрын

Base Sonic can die from a motorbug. Super Sonic in recent games dies or loses rings after flying and crashing into a rock

@sumnahlennon5449

7 ай бұрын

I dont like power scalers because *writer's intent* gets ignored. Sonic isn't bullet proof, and he can die from a small robot. If Super Sonic gets hurt after flying into an earth rock, he would be scaled closer to Powerpuff Girls. These are inconsistencies, so think of writer's intent. Sega doesnt INTENT Sonic to be as strong as these nonsense fan theories.

@CrusaderGoat

7 ай бұрын

Bro it’s game mechanics you talking about like seriously this is one of the worst debunking I have seen with sonic think about it would the game be fun if sonic just ran faster than time and destroyed all of egg man’s bots so fast you couldn’t even see it? I think not lmao bro stop being in denial and accept your monkey gets clapped by a blue hedgehog 🙊😂

@Clonmare

7 ай бұрын

@@sumnahlennon5449 Play db xenoverse 2, select yamcha and win against ssj blue, now here we are, yamcha strongest than goku

@A_literal_supernova

7 ай бұрын

@@sumnahlennon5449Dying to robots isn’t canon

Couldn't you argue chaos is universal as he absorbed the power of the chaos emerald as well as caling from shuffle

I can see them maybe beating Infinite. They don't beat Solaris, and even if they could they'd need a 3rd person (The best option they have is either Gohan or Future Trunks) to deal with the future since Solaris needed the hedgehog trio to beat. This isn't mentioned in the video and Sonic and Shadow are given all the credit for Solaris' defeat when Silver also played his part, taking on the future version. I'm not sure if it's already been brought up though

If you did Freddy Krueger vs Pinhead using Power Scaling who would win?

Well, the main takeaway from this video for me is that Infinite is a lot stronger than I thought. And that makes me happy :)

Also, Solaris is still the most powerful Sonic villain as stated by Iyan Flynn. The order is TimeEater, Infinite, The End and Solaris.

now I can agree with this because you did this without statements, other than the stuff that says all the dimensions in the macrocosum are infinite in size, but I have some statements that can get Goku to outer, if you wanna see them I'd like to give you them through discord (if you have it) and we can discuss Goku's level of power on there

@Nexus99866

2 ай бұрын

Sonic in Base can be scaled to Outerversal-Boundless.

Timelines in the Sonic Universe don't follow the new Universe thing as Silver is 100% in the same timeline as Sonic as seen in the comics and Classic Era is in the same timeline aswell via Iyan Flynn's statements. The other timelines are basically completely seperate Multiverses meaning TimeEater and Infinite are Multiversal, The End is likely Multiversal + and Solaris can destroy multiple timelines so that puts them beyond Time itself making it 5D. And that's without considering the dimensionality of the Sonic verse. The same can be taken into account for the Dagon Ball verse.

Tbf, Using character from SDBH would be more fair than the canon one.

@getlllz3438

7 ай бұрын

How?!

@Space_Lizard

7 ай бұрын

@@getlllz3438 cuz they both much stronger, have more hax/ability and they're really popular match-up

Goji chronic u finally respect sonic

I know this vid is 2 months old but the sonic downscale is unreal base sonic has boundless to above Tiering metas

What if Devilman and Cyborg 009 swapped battles?

Do the same thing but with Luffy and Naruto 🍷🗿

@tomhossain2099

7 ай бұрын

Naruto solos

@nicholasaugello2534

7 ай бұрын

Naruto slams maybe not as 1 sided as Naruto vs Konahamaru 🤣

@mrme.484

7 ай бұрын

Luffy doesn’t become the hokage, Naruto becomes the pirate king.

@A_literal_supernova

7 ай бұрын

W🍷🗿

What editing software you use?

@Goji-C

7 ай бұрын

Capcut and I edit on my iPad

@helio5943

7 ай бұрын

​@@Goji-CDAMN

Welp its over for Kakarot and prince Vegeta

sonic will be goku's next teacher

Highly disagree with Infinite being stronger than the Time Eater as the Time Eater wasn’t created by Eggman with it being explicitly stated that he found the creature in space after the events of Sonic Colours. So Infinite wouldn’t upscale from that on terms of being a “stronger” creation since he never made it in the first place. Also the Phantom Ruby that Infinite uses was a copy version thus doesn’t scale directly to any statement made to the original. Soooo Time Eater > Infinite. The rest of it I can take or leave it.

@EternityVoid_

7 ай бұрын

Infinite's phantom ruby is a finalize prototype of the original PR. The only difference is that Infinite's PR needs to recharge while the original doesn't.

Damn every DB character gets wiped on Goji Chronic's channel

Idea: can you Scaling comp gumball

Yo goji i can help your scale for goku , bc your scale for goku like 2017 type scalling

Wait don’t we all exist in the past present and future idk it’s a kinda wanly statement for immeasurable speed because I exist in the past the present and the future at the same time idk

We need sonic vs goji

Ok not to be mean but can someone explain how hitting someone who I guess in this case exists in past present and future count as inaccessible speed?I really wanna know

@helio5943

7 ай бұрын

I'm confused about this one too

some people said to me that sonic is weaker than goku because of ki difference like it's too dumb.

Dbs verse get humble by 2 hedgehog 💀 let's be real dragon ball author dnt care abt his own manga with such a trash powerscalling 😂😂😂

The macrocosm from battle of gods contains a super dimensional realm being the dimension of lights... and you argue that with solaris.. so anyone scaling above the macrocosm would scale above solaris AP. And dragon ball has fused zamasu scaling to the timeline and spreading to multiple others and goku believed he could beat him. Thats literally a stronger Solaris, existing all through time, merging with other timelines and timelines being infinitely greater than everything containing, which is atleast multiversal+ because you think the macrocosm is low multiversal. Theres a surprising amount of info you either forgot, didnt see or ignored

Infinite if he was in a tv series would have required super Sonic at least to defeat him but was defeated by base Sonic and User

Incase you doubt how strong Dragon Ball characters are in the manga compared to the anime, keep in mind that Dr. Slump and Dragon Ball apparently share the same Earth, which is 4 billion km in circumference. Now with that in mind I make calculations where I scaled up everything based on that (you’re welcome), these are the results: Destroying the Moon gets you at 1.233425 Foe or Large Star Level Destroying the Earth gets you at 2232.1527 Foe or Solar System Level The most reasonable calculation for destroying Planet Vegeta puts you at 1469772.062 Foe which is much higher into Solar System level And destroying Dragon Ball’s Solar System can land you between 24.147418 TeraFoe to 603.6854 YottaFoe And who knows how much stronger the characters are in the Buu saga, it’s not out of the realm for there to be Universal characters like possibly Vejito

Can you do? Heisei Rodan/fire Rodan versus gyoas please

I've seen people say that goku beats Archie sonic, but this is so funny

@koffibentum7452

7 ай бұрын

Well there's his power in SDBH

@billybob4532

5 ай бұрын

Archie Sonic has 7D scaling bruh

They could only beat solaris because they time travelled to 3 points in time due some 4D stuff

@urm0m69

7 ай бұрын

That's not really it. That's how you beat him, yeah, but to truly defeat Solaris you require Elise to be involved and show you the flame of Solaris so that you can extinguish it and erase Solaris from existence in every point in time since Solaris got that Acausality

@mrstickmantas

7 ай бұрын

@@urm0m69 ok yeah that's fair

Oh brother, This Guy STINKS. 😂

We don't even know how strong A full power end is Sonic was fighting a weakened version of it I can imagine how Strong a full power would be

We talking about games or external media?

sonic will solo the rest dragon ball up until beerus arrives.

Solaris one doesn't make sense tho. Like isn't he supposed to be omnipresent plus he also exist in present, past and the future so you need to attack him from three different timelines to defeat him. I mean yeah strength wise super sonic (frontiers) or super sonic 2 or infinite or even supreme might be stronger than solaris but in order to defeat him they need to attack him for three different timelines at the same time.

@TheOrcKatari

7 ай бұрын

It does make sense, you explained it yourself. Infinite and The End possibly are stronger than Solaris, but his omnipresence is what makes him harder to defeat than the other two

@gabrielmachado1247

7 ай бұрын

Solaris just has more survivability if It makes sense,he is waaay more Difficult to Kill,but he is weaker Than those two, Perfect Example? Zamasu VS Moro,or Gas

@getlllz3438

7 ай бұрын

Sonic present, shadow past, silver future

Anyone gonna talk about how sonic dies to tiny robots that are like goombas? Let’s not take game feats lol

Day 1 of asking for Evangelion units vs shin godzilla.

I’ve always said sonic could beat goku, thanks for letting others know

Okay I wanna say something for the manga scalers Why does everyone say manga goku hasnt absorbed the god power? It wasnt explicitly stated, but if he just lost the power then that also means Beerus weaked himself for the rest of the fight, and that defeats the purpose of even continuing in the first place. Goku's tenacity is what let Beerus keep the earth around, he would immediately wipe out goku if he lost that power in the manga because that surge is gone.

Can you do other sonic characters scaling like silver, blaze and surge. Along with sonic and shadow they are the top 5 strongest main character( sorry knuckles)

Nobody show him the death battle between shadow vs vegeta

Can you do silver and trunks, blaze and Kefla and surge/android 18.

Good thing you didnt use any comic sonic and shadow, the drsgon ball meat riders would be really pissed