What If Austria Won the Austro-Prussian War?

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  • @user-xi1lj3bs5g
    @user-xi1lj3bs5g2 ай бұрын

    Alt-History involving Austria is uncommon so this is really interesting. Great video as always.

  • @shinsenshogun900

    @shinsenshogun900

    2 ай бұрын

    A fair insight, given what is in the surface of the iceberg of alternate worlds

  • @goldensword777

    @goldensword777

    2 ай бұрын

    There's a hoi4 mod called der bruderkrieg. It's about if Austria won the Austro-Prussian war

  • @madpig7120

    @madpig7120

    2 ай бұрын

    Or it's just a "if austria hungary survived"

  • @paulpriglinger4154

    @paulpriglinger4154

    2 ай бұрын

    Not really, the difference is that austria won against prussia, but suffered a defeat in a greater war, altough the defeat was more political and economicly bad then territorialy. Meaning austria lost no land.​@@madpig7120

  • @zombieslayer1468

    @zombieslayer1468

    2 ай бұрын

    that is such a good mod@@goldensword777

  • @justinian-the-great
    @justinian-the-great2 ай бұрын

    Honestly, I think you should do a video on what if Prussian king did accept to become the German emperor in 1848, since that would have huge implications on everything after that. Like would new Germany intervene in Crimean war? Would they allow Italian unification? Would Franco-Prussian war happen earlier? Would this early Germany even intervene in 1848/49 revolutions in Austria? That would be one interesting timeline to explore.

  • @Emperor-ofRome

    @Emperor-ofRome

    2 ай бұрын

    That a great scenario ❤❤

  • @BelugaTheHutt

    @BelugaTheHutt

    2 ай бұрын

    Alt-hists involving an 1848 German unification are fascinating, but they might be tricky to engineer in the most straightforward of fashions. I'm pretty sure that accepting the crown would've triggered war - though granted, only Russia and Denmark were truly in a position to wage war with Prussia at the time, and only Russia could've done so alone. Important to keep in mind that within a year or so, Austria returned to capability to wage offensive war, and France is in a similar state. That really doesn't give Prussia and the rest of the 1848 German Empire much time to prepare. It's not just Frederick William IV's disdain for accepting a crown he did not believe was the Frankfurt Assembly's crown to give. It's also just the raw power politics situation in Europe at the time. Most of the plausibility I could envision would involve his son, the OTL eventual Kaiser William 1st to accept the crown as German emperor and abdicate his role as crown prince of Prussia in order to mollify surrounding nations. They could work closely hand-in-hand in practice, but officially, they'd remain separate states. It could be de facto unification, but not de jure unification. Further down the line, you could see a personal union being cemented by a dynastic marriage. The closest I can imagine a "natural" unification by non-military means for an 1848 German Empire uniting de jure with Prussia would be Frederick III being allowed to inherit both his grandfather's crown in 1861, and his father's crown in 1888. But would Frederick III even be the liberal reformer that modern historians love him for in this timeline? A huge part of his intellectual and philosophical development came from his time spent in the university town of Bonn, and his father softened on the notions of liberalism while spending time in England after having fled Berlin in 1848 - he had to flee Berlin because the citizens wanted him dead, for his role in commanding Prussian troops to fire grapeshot from cannons into the crowds of protestors/rioters/revolutionaries. So much of this particular alt-hist depends on the personalities of 3 specific royals of the Prussian dynasty, and 2 of those personalities were shaped greatly by the 1848 revolution themselves. In response to your question about the Crimean War, it's important to keep in mind that the OTL reasons for Austria and Prussia not intervening still apply. Russia had the capacity to logistically support massive armies in Eastern Europe, whereas their ability to fight in Crimea were limited. The interventionary stage of the Crimean War was effectively a limited war, because each side was operating what functioned as essentially expeditionary forces in a region far from their natural power centers and easy logistical trains. If Prussia and Austria had joined the war OTL or the German Empire (1848) had joined the war in this timeline, then they would've been the parties doing the majority of the fighting and dying. Russia could very well win the war in Eastern Europe, at the same time as simultaneously losing the war in the Black Sea. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense for a German power of Central Europe to join the Crimean War on the side of the British and French, unless Russia was already in a state of financial exhaustion, and they were just being opportunistic in seizing lands close to the border when Russia no longer had the finances to fund a large-scale war in Eastern Europe.

  • @antorseax9492

    @antorseax9492

    2 ай бұрын

    The only way I can think of that happening is if Fredrik III ascended far earlier than OTL, and I'm not sure when he gained his more liberal views.

  • @goldensword777

    @goldensword777

    2 ай бұрын

    I would like a video on this

  • @moonshinei

    @moonshinei

    2 ай бұрын

    There was already a video made on this

  • @Milk_enjoyer_
    @Milk_enjoyer_2 ай бұрын

    Austrians in the past: Austrians today: „we speak Austrian“

  • @barsukascool

    @barsukascool

    2 ай бұрын

    After WW2 Austrians were basically brainwashed to not be German anymore.

  • @PedroCosta-po5nu

    @PedroCosta-po5nu

    2 ай бұрын

    Austrians in the future: we speak autism

  • @chrisbeer5685

    @chrisbeer5685

    2 ай бұрын

    We have a different name for Button mushrooms though😢

  • @joelott

    @joelott

    2 ай бұрын

    @@PedroCosta-po5nu we dont speak hungarian doe

  • @insertnamehere9718

    @insertnamehere9718

    2 ай бұрын

    Austrians in the future: *something incomprehensible in Swiss*

  • @DakuHonoo
    @DakuHonoo2 ай бұрын

    wait wait wait, i was in a military museum in Prague last weekend and there was a plaque near prussian and austrian rifles of the era displayed, claiming austria lost on tactics, because it was technically better armed, the rifles were better in all but one aspect - breach loading - faster reload speeds of the prussian rifles that were innaccurate, unreliable and less powerful - alas Austria engaged in close combat tactics despite having their advantage at range and disadvantage close up.

  • @matthiuskoenig3378

    @matthiuskoenig3378

    2 ай бұрын

    Austria also had superior artillery, but in all aspects. Prussia still had smooth bore mussle loading artillery. Krupp breech loaders came later. While austria had superior rifles breech loaders. In every battle the Austrians had decisive long range firepower advantage and only lost battles when they assaulted prussian infantry in rough terrain.

  • @fireandblood8142

    @fireandblood8142

    2 ай бұрын

    Exactly, this is what I tried to explain in my comment, I am disappointed by PH on this video, he clearly did no research on the conduct of the war to assert that the Austrian army was doomed to failure

  • @michaelthomas5433

    @michaelthomas5433

    2 ай бұрын

    Here is an example of Austrian tactics. As said here Austria had already agreed to give up Venice before the war even started. However rather than try to buy Italian neutrality by simply giving it to them or at least not sending armies to defend the territory and using them against Prussia, Austria decided to keep a large bulk of their army there and fight over it for "honour's sake". I mean.. they DID beat the Italians, of course they still had to give up the land so..

  • @alexzero3736

    @alexzero3736

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes, you're correct. There are big video about this war on Real Time history channel, including comparison of armaments.

  • @evanneal4936

    @evanneal4936

    2 ай бұрын

    The Prussian rifles weren't inferior, only before the war, then after it started they developed into the first modern bolt action rifles almost immediately. The Prussians had breech loaders and could shoot farther, faster and more accurately than the Austrians which is why they won EVERY major battle. The place you saw was biased because it was their country once. But it's fake news. Even if you are right, that means the Prussians were so well trained that even with worse weapons they were able to be more accurate than the Austrians. But they were only less accurate because of smoke, if you could handle the smoke discharged by the breech you could aim the gun better than what the Austrians had. For example let's say the Austrians fired 8 shots out of 10 accurately, the Prussians were still doing 7 or 7.5 out of ten, but also getting 60 rounds a minute to Austrias 10 to 15 rounds a minute. The faster fire rate, better range and damage was well worth the very slight accuracy reduction. Otherwise why did we switch to the Prussian bolt actions later on instead of staying with the Austrian rifle muskets? Because the world saw and agreed that the breech loaded guns, despite being SLIGHTLY less accurate were better in every other way. Accuracy can be improved by training anyway. The Prussians were so much better trained that they could be more accurate than the Austrians even with less accurate guns.

  • @floor737
    @floor7372 ай бұрын

    What if Norway Won the Austro-Prussian War? (Please do a what if everything went perfect for Norway scenario)

  • @anders1026

    @anders1026

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes

  • @a1d4nnn

    @a1d4nnn

    2 ай бұрын

    But everything has already gone perfect for Norway

  • @user-xn7vs4tp9s

    @user-xn7vs4tp9s

    2 ай бұрын

    Through most of their history it at least medieval they were under a personal Union not the best for them.

  • @Caspaniar

    @Caspaniar

    2 ай бұрын

    I honestly feel like a what if everything went perfect for Sweden/ Denmark would be more interesting as Norway was gone for a lot of that time and doing that would be unpredictable

  • @Caspaniar

    @Caspaniar

    2 ай бұрын

    Denmark Norway, Kalmar Union and Sweden norway

  • @moonshinei
    @moonshinei2 ай бұрын

    Back off Prussian The South will rise again

  • @arabfromramla

    @arabfromramla

    2 ай бұрын

    You could’ve worded that better

  • @amongdrip8073

    @amongdrip8073

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@arabfromramla Nah he's good, keep your American sensibilities to yourself.

  • @Dest.

    @Dest.

    2 ай бұрын

    @@arabfromramlahe meant what he said…but what’s this about Prussia?

  • @cryopex9976

    @cryopex9976

    2 ай бұрын

    ⁠@@amongdrip8073the ‘Merican Civil War was one of the most influental wars of the 19th century, its not an “American Sensibility”

  • @amongdrip8073

    @amongdrip8073

    2 ай бұрын

    @@cryopex9976 Don't Care, dogging someone for a statement that vaguely offends you in a completely arbitrary way is childish and pathetic.

  • @benshiotsu8553
    @benshiotsu85532 ай бұрын

    It's overstated how bad austria really was. Most ethnicities were loyal and austrian litteracy rates amoung the minority groups were some of the best in europe. Only when they were litteraly starving did they actually break away.

  • @AdvancedGamer-

    @AdvancedGamer-

    2 ай бұрын

    lol “literally starving” 💀💀💀

  • @AdvancedGamer-

    @AdvancedGamer-

    2 ай бұрын

    Austria was bad from 1867-1914 because Hungary kept vetoing EVERYTHING “Want to go to war with Prussia during Franco-Prussian war” “vetoed by Hungary” “wanna do some economic reform?” Nah vetoed by Hungary

  • @theemperor-wh40k18

    @theemperor-wh40k18

    2 ай бұрын

    Hungary vetoing everything seems to be a recurring theme...

  • @TheAustrianAnimations87

    @TheAustrianAnimations87

    2 ай бұрын

    @@AdvancedGamer- It's true though. Austria-Hungary from 1867 to 1914 never had any violent revolutions unlike Russia and the Ottoman Empire. It also had far better literacy rates than the other two empires. The main reason why Austria-Hungary collapsed was because of food shortages. Farmers were conscripted, the Galician food production was stopped and the British naval blockade caused this. So Austria-Hungary was unable to import food from other countries and Germany itself was short on food. This caused protests everywhere in Austria-Hungary and also rapidly increased the desertion rates. "Austria was bad from 1867-1914 because Hungary kept vetoing EVERYTHING" Hungary opposing to help France was actually a good thing. Austria was still recovering from its defeat and Prussia made an agreement with Russia to get Galicia if Austria helped France. And about economic reforms, keep in mind that Hungary was the place where electrical industry was important (despite being a huge breadbasket). Austria-Hungary prior WW1 was the 3rd largest oil producer worldwide, had the 2nd largest European railway system (surpassing France and Britain, not counting Russia), had the 4th largest machine-building industry in the world and was the world's 3rd largest manufacturer and exporter of electric home appliances, electric industrial appliances, and power generation apparatus for power plants. A huge problem though was Hungary opposing more military spending for the inevitable Great War. It was one of the mainr easons why Austria-Hungary performed so poorly during WW1.

  • @AdvancedGamer-

    @AdvancedGamer-

    2 ай бұрын

    @@TheAustrianAnimations87 violent revolutions? I was boutta say Russia only had 1905 revolution lol since 1917 revolution was after 1914

  • @user-pt1ml1qy1x
    @user-pt1ml1qy1x2 ай бұрын

    What if Russia had supported the Hungarian uprising of 1848? Could this have led to the complete unification of the Germans by the middle of the 19th century by Prussia and the domination of Russia in the Balkans?

  • @Chuzhoy_Hishnik

    @Chuzhoy_Hishnik

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes yes yes! I want to see that scenario!

  • @JoboGamezzz
    @JoboGamezzz2 ай бұрын

    Maybe napoleon the third and Austria could make a deal where France gets the West Bank of the rhine in return for support in Austrian expansion in the Balkans and a defensive alliance Napoleon had already supported the Habsburgs by putting a Habsburg in control of the 2nd Mexican empire

  • @solis1171

    @solis1171

    2 ай бұрын

    They also expected the Austrians to win the brothers war

  • @Chrysobubulle

    @Chrysobubulle

    2 ай бұрын

    The French would never allow Prussia to be at their doorstep if they had managed to defeat it in a war. Im not sure France would try to absorb these territories, but they could simply make them small and inoffensive principalities again. To make sure they don’t have a frontier with a strong ennemy

  • @Kaiser_Wilhelm_IV.

    @Kaiser_Wilhelm_IV.

    2 ай бұрын

    I don't think one can state that France had "supported" Austria by letting a Habsburg rule over Mexiko as a French puppet. The Austrians were not very fond of the idea to begin with.

  • @plasmakitten4261
    @plasmakitten42612 ай бұрын

    I do think it's important to remember that as long as Prussia holds Silesia, which is the most powerful industrial province in east-central Europe, they will have an advantage in wars like this. A more interesting way to achieve this kind of scenario could be to invert either the War of Austrian Succession or the Seven Years' War, as that would actually change the balance of power in Germany much more.

  • @AdvancedGamer-

    @AdvancedGamer-

    2 ай бұрын

    I mean if France joined the Austrians then well Prussia might have been screwed tbf

  • @colincrew1857

    @colincrew1857

    2 ай бұрын

    Vic3 brainrot

  • @hanneswiggenhorn2023

    @hanneswiggenhorn2023

    Ай бұрын

    I kinda would disagree, because of how fast this war was. It lasted barely over a month, so weapons produced at the start of the war probably never saw the frontline

  • @liladoodle
    @liladoodle2 ай бұрын

    There's a HOI IV mod. called "Der Bruderkrieg" which is a similar setting. Though it starts in 1936 and Prussia is ruled by a Syndicalist leaning Hermann Goreing.

  • @Artporductions
    @Artporductions2 ай бұрын

    Great video I’ve been waiting for this one

  • @Okos-anim
    @Okos-anim2 ай бұрын

    Today we learned about "Austro-Prussian War" in school during history lesson, the same day you released the video. Such an intresting coinsidence

  • @TheRavenLord1
    @TheRavenLord12 ай бұрын

    This is an interesting alternate path for the Austro-Prussian war. Especially with this nation I keep hearing in the video called ‘Belgium’ existing.

  • @Very_Silly_Individual
    @Very_Silly_Individual2 ай бұрын

    Your videos are really awesome.

  • @Patman0074
    @Patman00742 ай бұрын

    Amazing video

  • @leemcpherson1039
    @leemcpherson10392 ай бұрын

    17:32 This is silly historical determinism. Serbia was pro-Austrian until a decade or so before 1914, and Bulgarian affinity for Russia or Austria were contingent on which way Serbia went.

  • @Kripiiiiiiii
    @Kripiiiiiiii2 ай бұрын

    BEST VIDEO ON YOUR CHANNEL!! 💪💪💪💪

  • @mainorc1666
    @mainorc16662 ай бұрын

    Great video! I love such different timelines What about a "What if the Ottomans westernized/were competent?"? (They essentially rush Tanzimat, quit isolation, actively intervene in the european politics and, most importantly, actually care on getting european allies, like the Prussian or French)

  • @WashyTheChillest

    @WashyTheChillest

    2 ай бұрын

    Yup, that’s a great idea, considering that the ottomans could’ve easily done that (and that Possible History humiliated them way too much in his videos )

  • @AdvancedGamer-

    @AdvancedGamer-

    2 ай бұрын

    ⁠​⁠@@WashyTheChillestwhat? He’s saying the truth the ottomans were too weak by 1800s honestly

  • @AdvancedGamer-

    @AdvancedGamer-

    2 ай бұрын

    @@WashyTheChillestanyways ottomans could have but not “easily” done that also they couldn’t have expanded let’s be real no power in Europe would allow them to touch Vienna Edit: I meant take haha

  • @ryannathaniel9296

    @ryannathaniel9296

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@AdvancedGamer-Considering that they have to let one of their wealthiest regions, Egypt became practically independent with them couldn't really do much about it, says a lot about their power

  • @TheAustrianAnimations87

    @TheAustrianAnimations87

    2 ай бұрын

    @@ryannathaniel9296 The Ottomans got beaten up by their own puppet state Egypt and needed to be bailed out by the European powers TWICE. This showed how weak the Ottoman Empire really was.

  • @beyondborderfilms4352
    @beyondborderfilms43522 ай бұрын

    I love this channel 😻

  • @loldiamond1017
    @loldiamond10172 ай бұрын

    Nice!

  • @NovikNikolovic
    @NovikNikolovic2 ай бұрын

    Now you should do "What if France won the Franco-Prussian War?"

  • @CatarigMaTt

    @CatarigMaTt

    2 ай бұрын

    Videntis did a video about it.

  • @NovikNikolovic

    @NovikNikolovic

    2 ай бұрын

    @@CatarigMaTt I don't like Videntis much, I like Possible History's content more

  • @alexzero3736

    @alexzero3736

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@NovikNikolovicpossible history videos is like "any shit can happen".

  • @shiningstarcaper

    @shiningstarcaper

    2 ай бұрын

    @@alexzero3736 that's the fun part

  • @TokitoZinn

    @TokitoZinn

    2 ай бұрын

    France likely Take Wallonia and rhine and later we have WW1 With North germany,balkans,italy and russiaX France,ottomans and austria

  • @tarzon1776
    @tarzon17762 ай бұрын

    Interesting video but a couple counterpoints: -If Austria really wanted to, they could've easily modernized their military to be on equal footing with Prussia. To my understanding, they just simply didn't care about being a military power in OTL. -An Austrian-led German Empire headquartered in Vienna could still easily form, all Austria has to do is release the Minority Regions as Vassal States under a Hapsburg. (Save for perhaps Slovenia and Czechia, which the Germans, Slovenes, and Czechs would all probably tolerate.)

  • @randomguy-tg7ok

    @randomguy-tg7ok

    2 ай бұрын

    Vicky 2 or Vicky 3?

  • @erto2657

    @erto2657

    2 ай бұрын

    Vic2 reference

  • @AdvancedGamer-

    @AdvancedGamer-

    2 ай бұрын

    Bro is in VIC 2

  • @gangwu4541

    @gangwu4541

    2 ай бұрын

    I did it in vc

  • @hanneswiggenhorn2023

    @hanneswiggenhorn2023

    Ай бұрын

    I'm pretty sure they could have formed a united Germany, but I feel like historically speaking this wouldn't really be the style of the Habsburgs, like I'm pretty sure they rather build up complicated dynasties to diplomatically bind countries to them than actually annex them like Prussia did. If I remember correctly they did always differentiated between different dynasty possessions quite well

  • @gibusgaming5866
    @gibusgaming58662 ай бұрын

    Neat stuff

  • @will-i-am5600
    @will-i-am56002 ай бұрын

    Lovely video

  • @AdvancedGamer-

    @AdvancedGamer-

    2 ай бұрын

    Wait what

  • @TherealMatthias1998
    @TherealMatthias19982 ай бұрын

    What if the Habsburgs integrated the Low Countries and Switzerland What if Bavaria united ALL of Germany (since I want a united Germany where Austrian and Prussian lands are included) Edit: I want the second one for a what if, I don’t care much for it politically

  • @AdvancedGamer-

    @AdvancedGamer-

    2 ай бұрын

    Not possible for “what if Bavaria” one but the first one was possible probably

  • @TherealMatthias1998

    @TherealMatthias1998

    2 ай бұрын

    @@AdvancedGamer- it is certainly incredibly unlikely. It would require Napoleon’s France to never truly form, Bavaria to likely gain lots of power from then, and then to have them turn on Napoleon and join the coalition at the right time Edit: by incredibly unlikely I mean as unlikely as us discovering gunpowder by someone trynna create a philosopher’s stone

  • @AdvancedGamer-

    @AdvancedGamer-

    2 ай бұрын

    @@TherealMatthias1998 nah I don’t even know if it’s possible 💀💀💀 It’s like saying what if Spain united Germany 💀💀

  • @TroyDaboi2005

    @TroyDaboi2005

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@AdvancedGamer- there was the spanish Netherlands, so they could do it 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @AdvancedGamer-

    @AdvancedGamer-

    2 ай бұрын

    @@TroyDaboi2005 I mean techincally Edit: less possible than Bavaria uniting Germany togigh 💀💀💀

  • @enterchannelname3213
    @enterchannelname32132 ай бұрын

    Marking my footprint here rn while im early.

  • @alphabetaomega265
    @alphabetaomega2652 ай бұрын

    Can you make a poll and video about how we would structure a constitution? Like the peace treaty borders videos, but instead of voting for borders we vote for constitutions. Like Question 1: Are the Head of State and Head of Government the same person? Question 2: Is the Head of Government elected by the Legislature, the People, appointed… Question 3: Is it a federation, confederation or centralised state etc? Etc. You could choose a real country at a specific moment in time and make it specific to that. Such as USA 1776, France 1793, West Germany 1949, France 1958, Afghanistan 2001 etc. Thanks

  • @bones6448
    @bones64482 ай бұрын

    The wiki page for the battle of konigratz says if Austria actually pressed forward they could have won the battle and destroyed the Prussian army. Konigratz came down to the wire. If Italy was not in the war, the addition of south army would have won the war for Austria as the Prussian army was stuck with mountains to their back with no supplies, it wouldn't have been long, it would have ended just a little after it did in OTL, Austria isn't getting beaten around. In 1866 the quality of the 2 armies wasn't very different.

  • @bici_oh
    @bici_oh2 ай бұрын

    This video is beautiful

  • @patrickuotinen
    @patrickuotinen2 ай бұрын

    Perhaps there was a way, if Austria wouldn't have joined Prussia in the Second Schleswig War in 1864, but instead attacked it during that war, Austria could have retained its position as the leading power in Germany. But probably Austria didn't expect that Prussia would turn against it only two years later.

  • @rorythecomrade4461
    @rorythecomrade44612 ай бұрын

    You should make a video on if Denmark won the 2nd Schleswig War. Unlikely scenario I know, but it'd be very interesting and I imagine Prussia losing such a humiliating defeat would actually have far more of an impact than one might think.

  • @nothingistguy
    @nothingistguy2 ай бұрын

    video suggestion What if harold defeated william in hastings?

  • @Fabio-Jose-DragonKing
    @Fabio-Jose-DragonKing2 ай бұрын

    (Daniel here) YES! One of My favorite scenarios! Thanks! ❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @Saint_Eight
    @Saint_Eight2 ай бұрын

    this is just the scenario in that HOI4 mod "Der Bruderkrieg: An Austrian Victory"

  • @AdvancedGamer-

    @AdvancedGamer-

    2 ай бұрын

    Nice

  • @AdvancedGamer-

    @AdvancedGamer-

    2 ай бұрын

    Actually?

  • @Saint_Eight

    @Saint_Eight

    2 ай бұрын

    @@AdvancedGamer- yep

  • @akuljbaba5914
    @akuljbaba59142 ай бұрын

    Dope

  • @murtack4573
    @murtack45732 ай бұрын

    Could you do a Danish video around the time 1801or1807/ napoleon era

  • @prockpj
    @prockpj2 ай бұрын

    If Austria joined the ottomans at 13:05? My God what a terrifying front line would that be

  • @levelairplane768playzroblo8
    @levelairplane768playzroblo82 ай бұрын

    Great scenario:)

  • @OnePinkDuck
    @OnePinkDuck2 ай бұрын

    How do you get so accurate historicsl maps?

  • @arasgee9184
    @arasgee91842 ай бұрын

    When will you do the 'Carthage wins Second Punic War' video?

  • @barsukascool

    @barsukascool

    2 ай бұрын

    Apie ką tu? Neaiškus komentaras.

  • @Theoneston1
    @Theoneston12 ай бұрын

    Cool

  • @akdele5
    @akdele52 ай бұрын

    Great video, have you thought about making a scenario where Peter III doesn't come to power/doesn't fanboy over Prussia and wins the war, taking modern Kaliningrad?

  • @gintautassickus6390
    @gintautassickus63902 ай бұрын

    Interesting...

  • @dqnkdoggo_
    @dqnkdoggo_2 ай бұрын

    How do you make your thumbnails

  • @lehmspielt
    @lehmspielt2 ай бұрын

    I highly doubt Austria would look for colonies in Africa. The emperor had no interest in colonies and most politicians in Austria Hungary believed it would be impossible to defend any colony, since their navy was terrible and they were locked in the Mediterranean.

  • @CatarigMaTt

    @CatarigMaTt

    2 ай бұрын

    True

  • @Rofflestomper

    @Rofflestomper

    2 ай бұрын

    Please be quiet.

  • @CatarigMaTt

    @CatarigMaTt

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Rofflestomper ?

  • @Rofflestomper

    @Rofflestomper

    2 ай бұрын

    @@CatarigMaTt he’s lying or being stupid and saying the opposite of what the video said. The video made by an actual historian.

  • @Rofflestomper

    @Rofflestomper

    2 ай бұрын

    @@CatarigMaTt I also suggest someone who’s stupid enough to only reply “???” Should also be quiet.

  • @maxtmmboi
    @maxtmmboi2 ай бұрын

    I think you should make a video about what if everything went perfect for egypt

  • @mrhehveee5213
    @mrhehveee52132 ай бұрын

    so, this is basically the What if everything went perfect for the Austrian Empire video.

  • @PHANTOM-zs6rd
    @PHANTOM-zs6rd2 ай бұрын

    best alt history channel

  • @madeinheaven5170
    @madeinheaven51702 ай бұрын

    where do you get your maps?

  • @LH44-LM10
    @LH44-LM102 ай бұрын

    idea for a video: What if the April uprising of the Bulgarians was successful?

  • @donutsteelthisname1088
    @donutsteelthisname10882 ай бұрын

    Suggestion: What if Egypt won the second Egyptian-Ottoman war

  • @00martoneniris86
    @00martoneniris862 ай бұрын

    what if everything went perfectly for Albania What if Portugal joined the central powers?

  • @user-ue1ns3dn7l
    @user-ue1ns3dn7l2 ай бұрын

    Love your scenario! I always considered it a great tragedy that Prussia was the one to unite Germany as their dominant militarism had many unfortunate consequences. I do, however have one slight disagreement with your assessment You described the military situation as hopeless for the Austrians. While it’s certainly true that factors like the Dreyse Needle gun or the greater authority of the Prussian general staff as well as an overall advantage in quality tipped the scales in Prussia’s favour, there were still some opportunities the greatly weaken them. -The fact that the planned linkup between Hanoverian and Bavarian forces never occurred, which would haven given them an advantage of about 5:3 over the western army of Prussia, thus allowing them to threaten supply lines of the main prussian forces in Silesia/Bohemia, was mainly down to Bavarian inaction and the lack of faith the Hanoverian King and leadership had in their position. This of course led to the whole Langensalza debacle. -The material advantage has not entirely on Prussias side. Austrian artillery was far superior, being rifled. Their cavalry has also been described as better, as evidenced by them covering the retreat at königgrätz and their heroic (although deadly) charge at the second battle of custozza. -Königgrätz itself was going well for the austrians roughly until midday. The battle was mostly lost due to insubordination and the useless skirmishs the austrians fought prior. It also showed that in a well prepared defensive, the advantage of the needle guns was somewhat lessened. -The Austrian strategy itself has also often been criticised, as the offensive plan, favoured by Archduke Albrecht, who beat the Italians in the South despite being numerically disadvantaged, would have called for defeating the Prussian armies seperately, before they could unite in Bohemia, as Moltke’s plan called for. This was historically of course dismissed, with the overly cautious Ludwig von Benedek being appointed to command the northern army despite his initial refusal to take the post. How well the Austrians would have fared on the offensive is hard to say, I personally wouldn’t bet on this offensive succeeding. The most pressing issue of the Austrian forces, in my opinion was their use of the utterly outdated “Stoßtaktik”, which saw their infantry charging the enemy in big formations. Ultimately, even the Prussian leadership was not sure of their victory until the afternoon of Königgrätz. Bismarck, as a famous anecdote goes, traveled to the field with a suitcase full of foreign currency, as he’d be ruined should the war be lost. I would be interested if you came across the points during your research. If not, I can hardly blame you, as the Brothers War is not that well known or popular.

  • @fireandblood8142

    @fireandblood8142

    2 ай бұрын

    Exactly, this is what I tried to explain in my comment, I am disappointed by PH on this video, he clearly did no research on the conduct of the war to assert that the Austrian army was doomed to failure

  • @AdvancedGamer-

    @AdvancedGamer-

    2 ай бұрын

    lol the brothers war tbf was very short war and people overlook it for the Franco-Prussian war

  • @AdvancedGamer-

    @AdvancedGamer-

    2 ай бұрын

    @@fireandblood8142I mean tbf they did nearly take Vienna in 5 weeks so…

  • @fireandblood8142

    @fireandblood8142

    2 ай бұрын

    @@AdvancedGamer- No, Bismarck advocated not capturing Vienna because it would have upset the great powers and humiliated Austria too much, which is why the Prussian army continued on its way to Pressburg (Bratislava), chasing the Austrian army into modern day Slovakia. Anyway, the fact is that the Habsburgs were not doomed to failure, it was really misjudgments and poor decisions at the strategic level of operations that decided the fate of the war, this reminds me of the campaign of France in 1940, the French army was not doomed to failure, it was even better than the German army and Manstein knew it ("la premier armee du monde"), but it lost the early stages of the war due to errors of judgment and poor decisions

  • @AdvancedGamer-

    @AdvancedGamer-

    2 ай бұрын

    @@fireandblood8142 yes but if Austria was gonna push back why should Bismarck care about taking Vienna if they’re really pushing back? Think

  • @FusionCyborg
    @FusionCyborg2 ай бұрын

    2:18 Good to know I'm not the only one who views the NGC as Prussia subjecting & transforming the rest of Germany north of the river main into Prussian vassals

  • @insertnamehere9718
    @insertnamehere97182 ай бұрын

    Hey PH (if u see this) I love your accent- where’s it from?

  • @Eradikateu

    @Eradikateu

    2 ай бұрын

    I believe he’s dutch

  • @kaunghlamyat
    @kaunghlamyat2 ай бұрын

    Guess we're gonna have german painter instead of austrian one

  • @gregoryturk1275

    @gregoryturk1275

    2 ай бұрын

    Syndicalist confederation of Greater Germany

  • @e4y34zdfg

    @e4y34zdfg

    2 ай бұрын

    Austrians are ethnic Germans.

  • @communistvenom9284
    @communistvenom92842 ай бұрын

    You should make a "what if everything went perfect for macedonia video"

  • @nicolacontarini6535
    @nicolacontarini65352 ай бұрын

    Please do a video "what if everything went perfect for Italy"

  • @Heavenlynightstarz
    @Heavenlynightstarz2 ай бұрын

    PH can you do what if Australia won the great emu wars?

  • @radored7750
    @radored77502 ай бұрын

    13:55 that is picture from year 1946 from deportation of Germans from Czechoslovakia.

  • @burger7499
    @burger74992 ай бұрын

    Can we have the video "What if everything went perfect for Bohemia?"

  • @Silly_dutch_femboy
    @Silly_dutch_femboy2 ай бұрын

    18:56 I'm not too sure if an independent polish state is likely as this might cause trouble in austrian polish majority regions

  • @PetarDjerkovic
    @PetarDjerkovic2 ай бұрын

    I don't like how the stronger nations just take over the smaler countries . For example Montenegro. A nation that beat the Ottomans countles times just gets in Austrias sphere of influence .

  • @matthiuskoenig3378

    @matthiuskoenig3378

    2 ай бұрын

    Sphere of influence is also a result of ecconomy. Montenegro simply doesn't have the ability to hold off ecconomic power.

  • @AdvancedGamer-

    @AdvancedGamer-

    2 ай бұрын

    @@matthiuskoenig3378true

  • @sthgaming6451
    @sthgaming64512 ай бұрын

    Let's go

  • @spielfieber6908
    @spielfieber69082 ай бұрын

    I want part 2

  • @joseyamama
    @joseyamama2 ай бұрын

    🔥

  • @henrikstoraker826
    @henrikstoraker8262 ай бұрын

    Finish your ever empire in history series bro

  • @VeeePlayes
    @VeeePlayes2 ай бұрын

    What Music is at 10:00 ?

  • @maximillianx1395
    @maximillianx13952 ай бұрын

    12:03 someone has to turn this in to a meme!

  • @user-yk5yz9xl6x
    @user-yk5yz9xl6x2 ай бұрын

    What if the ottomans won at vienna? What if the European holy league lost? What if the kingdom of Syria resisted the french and British? What if the papal state united italy?

  • @barsukascool
    @barsukascool2 ай бұрын

    yooo my guy is right on time

  • @neumo5005
    @neumo50052 ай бұрын

    Not my idea but please do an everything perfect for Denmark. How much could they realistically hold on to

  • @juliosalas6455
    @juliosalas64552 ай бұрын

    Could you make video on "What if everything went perfect for Mexico"?

  • @user-gw7po1lz2m
    @user-gw7po1lz2m2 ай бұрын

    The random "Сечас" or whatever on 9:40 is killing me

  • @AlaukikDevkota0
    @AlaukikDevkota02 ай бұрын

    You should make a video where Britian was very lucky

  • @Jesteroo_
    @Jesteroo_2 ай бұрын

    could you do what if everything went right for Austria

  • @Leyrann
    @Leyrann2 ай бұрын

    What if the Congress of Vienna decided to reinstate Louis Napoleon as King of the Netherlands?

  • @zankbot2401
    @zankbot24012 ай бұрын

    can you do a what if Poland and Bohemia united in the middle ages?

  • @theunfunny4133
    @theunfunny41332 ай бұрын

    Do a what if everything went perfect for portugal (1414-1580 or further)

  • @AdvancedGamer-

    @AdvancedGamer-

    2 ай бұрын

    How lol

  • @AdvancedGamer-

    @AdvancedGamer-

    2 ай бұрын

    Jk

  • @AGamerthatregretsalot
    @AGamerthatregretsalot2 ай бұрын

    Its great to be early as 5 minutes to a possible history video

  • @worldfacts5298
    @worldfacts52982 ай бұрын

    You should make a video on if the first Bulgarian empire managed to overthrow the eastern Roman’s

  • @nitch2527
    @nitch25272 ай бұрын

    dam

  • @enterchannelname3213

    @enterchannelname3213

    2 ай бұрын

    Your the first

  • @purpledevilr7463

    @purpledevilr7463

    2 ай бұрын

    Praise be to the first.

  • @earthgaming228

    @earthgaming228

    2 ай бұрын

    and the person who actually got first award goes to...

  • @PizzaChess69
    @PizzaChess692 ай бұрын

    Video idea: What if everything went perfect for Australia?

  • @user-adrsilva123
    @user-adrsilva1232 ай бұрын

    Yo Possible History Please Do What If Joseph Stalin Lived Longer!

  • @mrjaman3752
    @mrjaman37522 ай бұрын

    Minor mistake at 2:21 The Italians took Veneto out of the war yet its shown like if it was still Austrian

  • @epok7272
    @epok72722 ай бұрын

    i have been asking since last yer. what if everything went perfect for romanian principalities/romania or what if micheal the brave's union worked out

  • @dogsittinggay7273
    @dogsittinggay72732 ай бұрын

    Could you do what if everything went perfect for the Ottoman Empire

  • @aksathraja5422
    @aksathraja54222 ай бұрын

    Anything that happend from 1900s onwards was the cause of things that mostly happen in 1801 to 1899

  • @electricVGC
    @electricVGC2 ай бұрын

    Would've been interested in seeing an anti Hungarian compromise with the Slavs as an option as well. More possible with both more Germans and a lot more Slavs. I think France giving up Rome in exchange for also capitulating to Italy seems crazy?

  • @priyansh_12391
    @priyansh_123912 ай бұрын

    Please make Carthage winning punic war video

  • @bartholomeusnebuchadnezzar2463
    @bartholomeusnebuchadnezzar24632 ай бұрын

    can you do a ,,what if the byzantines won at manzikert" video, please?

  • @Brandon-kt1qh
    @Brandon-kt1qh2 ай бұрын

    In the alternate WWI, I think a potential American entry against the British, allying with both France and Germany, is extremely likely as well. An England/Austria vs France, Italy, Germany, Russia, and America is possible in a long term scenario.

  • @valerio5571
    @valerio55712 ай бұрын

    Can you do what id everything went perfectly for italy next?

  • @elpepe9193
    @elpepe91932 ай бұрын

    Do a what if history went perfect for Argentina

  • @enguerrandleblanc2399
    @enguerrandleblanc23992 ай бұрын

    also, when you divide Africa you missed the fact that France give up Egypt to Britain to gain an alliance. So in that timeline it is not possible that a victorious empire would let himself be

  • @AdvancedGamer-

    @AdvancedGamer-

    2 ай бұрын

    They didn’t give up Egypt they gave up Sudan So Uhm yeah

  • @TheKindofTiredSleepCantFix
    @TheKindofTiredSleepCantFix2 ай бұрын

    I think you underestimate the Anti-Russian bias of Great Britan here. Without Prussian unified Germany as a credible threat, Britan will have considerably less incentives to make peace with the Russians and lighten up on the Great Game. Britain, France, and Austria would be natural Allies to contain the threat of Russia.

  • @pavle987
    @pavle9872 ай бұрын

    Can you do "What if everything went perfect for Serbia"

  • @jef_3006
    @jef_30062 ай бұрын

    Maybe it's just because I've studied this particular scenario before myself, but I think you're way more off the mark than normal. First of all, you have made the classic mistake of forgetting that the minor powers also have autonomy. Even if everything in Austria goes as it did historically, the dynamics of the peace deal could still be shifted dramatically through the efforts of the German states. More German nations sided with Austria than Prussia, and all of the Kingdoms were on Austria's side. Historically, the army of the Kingdom of Hanover actually beat the Prussian in a field battle, and was only a few days from meeting up with the armies in Bavaria when it was forced to surrender. It would only take some minor changes to bring about a massive, unified anti-Prussia army in southern Germany. Secondly, you have forgotten who led these nations. If Vienna is under threat, Franz Josef is going to make peace, as he did historically, because he is far too cautious not to. If France gets involved, Wilhlem is going to make peace, because he is also far too cautious not to. This is not the absolute industrial warfare of WWI. And the Habsburgs are not going to be willing to do whatever it takes to win the way ideologically driven nations like the Union in the US Civil War or France in the Franco-Prussian War were. Thirdly, I think you're being too harsh on the Austrian Army. Yes, it was nothing compared to the Prussians, but no one was. The Austrian Army was a capable and competent force, led by okay-to-good officers, with bad doctrine. They handily beat the Italians on the southern front, and managed several draws in the Bohemian campaign against Prussia before the big decisive battle. They would NOT be losing men and material by the thousand in a desperate attempt to push Prussia back. Quite the opposite; their biggest problem was not using men wastefully, but being too cautious. So yes, the Prussian Army is better, and should win more often certainly. But it isn't quite totally one-sided, especially when you factor in the smaller German states.

  • @killetowin
    @killetowin2 ай бұрын

    I think for the world War scenario at the end of this video I feel like britan would either be neutral or only be at war with the French, austria, ottoman compared to Russia, Prussia and italy. Mostly do to African and the Middle East which Britain can gain quite a lot . Also I think a major player in the war would most likely be hungry if they decide to go for independence during the war than Austria would most likely collapse and u would get peace treaty from it.