What Happens If You DON'T Go Visit Thomas Downes In Red Dead Redemption 2? (RDR2 SECRET Outcome)

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What Happens If You DON'T Go Visit Thomas Downes In Red Dead Redemption 2? (RDR2 SECRET Outcome)
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In today’s Red Dead Redemption 2 video - We are checking out a SECRET cutscene and some interesting encounters that happen if you DON'T visit Thomas Downes and avoid the mission!
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  • @MrBossFTW
    @MrBossFTW5 жыл бұрын

    What Happens If You DON'T Go Visit Thomas Downes In Red Dead Redemption 2? (RDR2 SECRET Outcome)

  • @n5gamer_b348

    @n5gamer_b348

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hi ross

  • @unknownusername9983

    @unknownusername9983

    5 жыл бұрын

    YOU suck

  • @MisterNi

    @MisterNi

    5 жыл бұрын

    You can't. You'll stop progressing the story otherwise. There was going to be a way to have two completely different endings, but that was scraped because the people who took the money lending missions would probably just restart and not take the missions.

  • @jam3s731

    @jam3s731

    5 жыл бұрын

    When Mrs doowns visits she foreshadows Arthurs death if you have good honor

  • @henrybrazil2373

    @henrybrazil2373

    5 жыл бұрын

    Go and visit Thomas Downes before the debt mission

  • @FozzQuaker
    @FozzQuaker5 жыл бұрын

    The Answer is You have to visit Thomas Downes...It cannot be avoided

  • @somedude653

    @somedude653

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes he needs to stop aurther always gets tb there is no way to stop it

  • @andreangeles6814

    @andreangeles6814

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sadly yes

  • @sbrw4316

    @sbrw4316

    4 жыл бұрын

    :[ Don’t progress if you don’t want Tb 😄

  • @DennyBoy7777777

    @DennyBoy7777777

    4 жыл бұрын

    Go Darlington!

  • @cel5207

    @cel5207

    3 жыл бұрын

    @XenoMorphh yeah same for me, just happened actually and I loaded up a save game from when I finished the game went back to my load with Arthur and I still was forced to ride there and beat em

  • @mexicanraccoon4958
    @mexicanraccoon49585 жыл бұрын

    The game forces you to visit him, thank me later.

  • @anthony1901

    @anthony1901

    5 жыл бұрын

    Death Skull388 he's a idiot he just want views . I don't understand how he has this much subscribers which is a bunch of little kids and he's going to keep clickbaiting and make nonsense videos

  • @megabucks8888

    @megabucks8888

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@anthony1901 erm most of his subscribes are inactive and don't even care to unsubscribe or are bots.

  • @Reaper_420l-_-l

    @Reaper_420l-_-l

    5 жыл бұрын

    Death Skull388 it’s bullcrap

  • @blazetieftw

    @blazetieftw

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yep. You can do all the side missions up until that point, but it locks you out of the main storyline just before the mission where you and John steal sheep together.

  • @THEREDS580

    @THEREDS580

    3 жыл бұрын

    Even a raccon ahve a. Higher IQ than Mr.boss ftw No offense

  • @zar1290
    @zar12905 жыл бұрын

    Short answer: The story doesn’t progress, there’s no secret outcome, and mr boss is a clickbaity youtuber. Stop watching him.

  • @TheTwixXGaming

    @TheTwixXGaming

    4 жыл бұрын

    I came here expecting that so I disliked before I saw anything.

  • @permajetlag

    @permajetlag

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks bro you saved me time (:

  • @toasterdemon3716

    @toasterdemon3716

    4 жыл бұрын

    Perma Jetlag same

  • @rfrerr109

    @rfrerr109

    4 жыл бұрын

    I u don’t like him don’t whatch

  • @immrcontagious9096

    @immrcontagious9096

    4 жыл бұрын

    Rfr Err lemme guess. You’re one of his stupid fans

  • @joshfallon123
    @joshfallon1235 жыл бұрын

    Imagine if Micah went to downes instead of Arthur. 1- Arthur would live 2- Hosea, Lenny, Molly And Susan would live (correct me if I'm wrong there) 3- Dutch would not have been manipulated 4- Arthur's "redemption story" could have been him starting a life with Mary or Sadie abroad. (Maybe he fakes his death or just squares things with the gang to leave) There is probably other points to this different situation so feel free to share them here.

  • @amarr3234

    @amarr3234

    5 жыл бұрын

    this would actually be the most rewarding ending

  • @reeds6006

    @reeds6006

    5 жыл бұрын

    Also, not to be condescending but technology and human manipulation have come a llloooonnngggg way from the 80s, people have learned and have been taught from big time people to create these things (games, movies, etc) to make us feel the way we do in the moment of said playthrough. I admit I balled at some points in RDR2 just because it was SO REAL at times. But at the same time. It's fiction and life is a hell of a lot more complicated than that, even in those times (1800s early 1900s.)

  • @viego29

    @viego29

    5 жыл бұрын

    If Arthur didn’t get tb and Micah get it instead then he won’t be tryna leave the gang because Micah didn’t manipulated Dutch and loyalty is the only thing that matters to him until he got the tb and realized he dont have much left

  • @toddtaylor8368

    @toddtaylor8368

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well if all that woulda happened, RDR1 wouldn't happened genius

  • @TheBeeMan1994

    @TheBeeMan1994

    4 жыл бұрын

    What if he never got TB, but everything still happened, just he doesn’t die in the end, instead he leaves the gang for Mary and never sees them again, and that is why no one talks about him in RDR1

  • @themrwilfordreal
    @themrwilfordreal5 жыл бұрын

    Riding a horse (secret outcome)

  • @Yoloballmuncher22

    @Yoloballmuncher22

    4 жыл бұрын

    What Happens if you walk in rdr2?(SECRET OUTCOME)

  • @malakhimalo1395

    @malakhimalo1395

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Yoloballmuncher22 you have kids in basement

  • @SozuSozin

    @SozuSozin

    3 жыл бұрын

    Your emoji looks just like mine... trippy

  • @obriendrew58

    @obriendrew58

    3 жыл бұрын

    What happens if you breathe in rdr2 ?? secret outcome

  • @LeooooLastname

    @LeooooLastname

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Yoloballmuncher22 Dutch dies immediately and you get a secret remake of the entire game and read dead 1 remaster that was an Easter egg

  • @antfox8873
    @antfox88733 жыл бұрын

    When the gang was talking about how and where they wanted to be berried Charles actually took notes when Arthur said he wanted to face the sun, pretty cool cut scene if you haven’t heard of it yet

  • @cpsedmonds

    @cpsedmonds

    2 жыл бұрын

    Charles actually wasn't there for that conversation, it was Hosea, Lenny and Tilly. This means that Tilly was always on Arthur's side, as she's the only person who could have told Charles about his wishes.

  • @macman975

    @macman975

    2 жыл бұрын

    Berried😂

  • @blazedupp7089

    @blazedupp7089

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@cpsedmonds exactly idk why he mentioned Charles and he can’t spell buried 🤣

  • @junko2_755

    @junko2_755

    2 жыл бұрын

    And when we play John marston Charles tell him about this

  • @apolloxv8820

    @apolloxv8820

    8 ай бұрын

    @@macman975I’m glad I wasn’t the only one I’m dying hahahaha

  • @Lowtierhero7777
    @Lowtierhero77775 жыл бұрын

    I once shot downes in the head from a distance before dialogue began. He fell down like he was dead then just sprang up like super super fast

  • @malachiconstant7745

    @malachiconstant7745

    5 жыл бұрын

    Noah gamingblitz LoL

  • @foozywolf

    @foozywolf

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think the game just hates Arthur? 🤔

  • @jizzyjake6783

    @jizzyjake6783

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's an actual symptom of tuberculosis.

  • @syrupsnake302

    @syrupsnake302

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@foozywolf - No, the game is scripted so that arthur dies.

  • @foozywolf

    @foozywolf

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@syrupsnake302 Yeah bruh this reaction was so long ago, I finished the game like 20 times already

  • @rafalgul17
    @rafalgul175 жыл бұрын

    I blame strauss all because of him arthur is dead. He should of send micha then arthur would live and micha would die it would be the best game ever and happy instead of sad

  • @JohnSmith-lj4du

    @JohnSmith-lj4du

    5 жыл бұрын

    It’s not Strauss’s fault it’s micha that kills him

  • @imcoldtheproducer7867

    @imcoldtheproducer7867

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@JohnSmith-lj4du only if you have bad honor

  • @oneeyedgon8760

    @oneeyedgon8760

    5 жыл бұрын

    CODEBLUEPLAYZ, Actually not... In the honorable he dies because he’s weak. Arthur would have survived some more days if he didn’t fight Micah. Micah beat him to death because you become weaker when you have tb.

  • @genericdumbass989

    @genericdumbass989

    5 жыл бұрын

    spoiler alert

  • @ETn4606

    @ETn4606

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yay finally a good comment and true

  • @mrgreenfingers7486
    @mrgreenfingers74865 жыл бұрын

    Seriously hes done this vid a thousand times

  • @rylenc103

    @rylenc103

    5 жыл бұрын

    And smart ass u have watch it a thousand times then don't watch it if ur fenna complain

  • @yourface389

    @yourface389

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@rylenc103 bruh shut up he has a right to be annoyed, Mr bosses videos suck now

  • @douglasn44

    @douglasn44

    5 жыл бұрын

    in fact, yesterday after spending a lot of time without doing Thomas's mission, John Marston called me at the camp to do a mission to steal the train. And that mission should only appear after Thomas's mission. But after finishing some missions the game did not advance it. I do not know if it was yesterday's update that added that.

  • @xbrandos1551

    @xbrandos1551

    5 жыл бұрын

    Bro you not lying I'm frrl bout to unsub.. this is the forth vid that he's done multiple times, and it's getting fucking old.. idk if he think we are stupid and don't notice or what🤷

  • @mrgreenfingers7486

    @mrgreenfingers7486

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@rylenc103 🤣🤣🤣

  • @batmqnq
    @batmqnq4 жыл бұрын

    Mr boss thumbnail: I’ll send micah instead, Video: Micah’s not even mentioned in the video

  • @NoName-hg6cc
    @NoName-hg6cc2 жыл бұрын

    Dutch: try to let the camp location stay a secret Miss Downes: casually stroll in the camp

  • @thisizamra

    @thisizamra

    Жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂😂

  • @Ry3n590
    @Ry3n5903 жыл бұрын

    What happens if John Marston doesn't breathe in New Hanover (secret outcome)

  • @sburton015
    @sburton0153 жыл бұрын

    Even if the game doesn't immediately force you to go to Thomas Downs ranch, you eventually get to the point where the only mission available is to visit Thomas Downs that you must complete to advance past chapter 2.

  • @suitmanwithaknife4400

    @suitmanwithaknife4400

    3 жыл бұрын

    I just stay in chapter 2,never talk to strauss,and play the game how I want to

  • @Slumking

    @Slumking

    Жыл бұрын

    @@suitmanwithaknife4400 so trve

  • @sleepyfilipino

    @sleepyfilipino

    Жыл бұрын

    Bro that's where I am right now. I think I got a little past it but I stopped doing the missions to keep him alive. I think when I go back go it, I'm gonna have another long playthrough, but just stopping right up until this mission.

  • @Shzy.

    @Shzy.

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@sleepyfilipino if you don't do any story mission does arthur get sick on its own? Even though if you were just exploring and doing side quests?

  • @sleepyfilipino

    @sleepyfilipino

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Shzy. No he'll stay the same if you do that, it's just as you progress in the story that what he has also progresses.

  • @megabucks8888
    @megabucks88885 жыл бұрын

    LOL he did create the video LMFAO

  • @joaooliveira6366

    @joaooliveira6366

    5 жыл бұрын

    He's a meme

  • @kevinmatlak5533
    @kevinmatlak55335 жыл бұрын

    You cant go forward in Story

  • @gatorvlogs37

    @gatorvlogs37

    5 жыл бұрын

    Exatly

  • @jiamepalacios1159

    @jiamepalacios1159

    5 жыл бұрын

    Maybe

  • @gatorvlogs37

    @gatorvlogs37

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@jiamepalacios1159 yes

  • @drewmadenew3000
    @drewmadenew30003 жыл бұрын

    I’m on my 6th play through, and this is the first time I’ve ever seen Mrs. Downes come to the camp! After all 6 play throughs I am STILL learning new things bout the game and uncovering hidden secrets! Just last night I learned about hidden gold bars that are worth $3500!

  • @Jerry-pz9df

    @Jerry-pz9df

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hidden gold bars ! Where?

  • @twitchycorpse

    @twitchycorpse

    2 жыл бұрын

    where???

  • @lilcrazyaya10

    @lilcrazyaya10

    2 жыл бұрын

    WHAT WHERE TELLME PLEASE

  • @ps4limit996

    @ps4limit996

    2 жыл бұрын

    Where my nigga where!?

  • @Jonin_Kazumi

    @Jonin_Kazumi

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ps4limit996 go to the lost town of limpany

  • @sburton015
    @sburton0153 жыл бұрын

    From what I've seen, if you avoid going to Thomas Downs to attempt to collect his debt, eventually you get to the point where the only mission available to do in order to progress father in the game is to go to Thomas Downs and attempt to collect his debt.

  • @CainySNP
    @CainySNP5 жыл бұрын

    Did anyone realise he said chapter 3 when he still had to rescue micah and shawn, and go to Thomas downes, he got a little confused between chapter 2 and 3

  • @Kvs-vf9nt

    @Kvs-vf9nt

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think the Micah second mission you can do in chapter 3. The stagecoach one.

  • @blackflame2385
    @blackflame2385 Жыл бұрын

    In order to avoid this, the mission must be ignored and never completed. Doing this will lock the Van der Linde gang in Horseshoe Overlook and stall story progression, preventing the player from completing any further story missions and locking out the entire region of New Austin in addition to any side missions that rely on story progression.

  • @tarnanosmek6325
    @tarnanosmek63255 жыл бұрын

    How does Mrs Downes know where the camp was when she returned the debt?

  • @furiousalleycat

    @furiousalleycat

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have no clue, possibly asked around town as to where the gang members travel to and from

  • @oldrabidus2230
    @oldrabidus22302 жыл бұрын

    Now that Rockstar has made a lot of money off this game, a new version where Arthur does not die expansion pack would take in more cash. What a great game! One of my Top 5 video games I’ve played since 1985.

  • @DragonofDojima_

    @DragonofDojima_

    Жыл бұрын

    I would love to play that expansion if they decided to do it

  • @The_Boys____

    @The_Boys____

    Жыл бұрын

    Whoa I wasn't born until the 90's and didn't start playing video games until 1999. What other great games have you played since '85?

  • @oldrabidus2230

    @oldrabidus2230

    Жыл бұрын

    @@The_Boys____ Legends if Zelda for the NES had my block in their home for 1-2 weeks. Castlevania. System Shock II. Duke Nukem 3D playing my neighbor on a 56k modem. Played all through the night against each other. Was crazy to play online against other human opponents without having to share your screen and cheat. Deus Ex, it’s plot line mirrors our lives today. Counter Strike. WWIIOL, Lots if time spent on these games.

  • @demon6937

    @demon6937

    Жыл бұрын

    that would be great, I'll definitely pay for that

  • @mikeylejan8849
    @mikeylejan88499 ай бұрын

    In my case, I didn’t even beat up Downes, they just mentioned he is dead.

  • @MrBubz-pq3ck
    @MrBubz-pq3ck5 жыл бұрын

    Unrelated note: Happy 102nd Birthday to American president, John Fitzgerald Kennedy May 29, 1917-November 22, 1963

  • @brycewelch1651

    @brycewelch1651

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'm not gonna say happy birthday because no one said happy birthday to spongebob on may 5th

  • @brycewelch1651

    @brycewelch1651

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sorry may 1st

  • @Justme-pt1ld

    @Justme-pt1ld

    5 жыл бұрын

    ._.

  • @TheMoviemaster666
    @TheMoviemaster666 Жыл бұрын

    I feel they made the game with the mindset “everyone can’t wait to play John again” and then after everyone plays “why did we kill Arthur?”

  • @unknownusername9983
    @unknownusername99835 жыл бұрын

    You already did this Jesus, you are desperade.

  • @ETn4606

    @ETn4606

    5 жыл бұрын

    Shut up

  • @FabLoveGA

    @FabLoveGA

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@ETn4606 Why? Because you can't accept you loser youtuber is hated by everyone?

  • @lennysummers1480

    @lennysummers1480

    5 жыл бұрын

    Connor Mcelligott Loser!

  • @Rari98
    @Rari985 жыл бұрын

    what happens if you dont go visit mrbossftw videos, you will avoid obvious outcomes like this

  • @curtisjacksons3027
    @curtisjacksons30274 жыл бұрын

    In my second play through I tried tone the good guy and not really kill or beat up ppl involved in the story. And in this mission you just run out of “threaten “ dialogue and are forced to get TB

  • @quintonhamilton2484

    @quintonhamilton2484

    Жыл бұрын

    Foreal I tried not beating him, and to just threaten him, and then Bam 💥 the cutscene comes in🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @sirdrako9932
    @sirdrako99325 жыл бұрын

    On my play through Arthur was already coughing when I did my first home robbery wisth sean and I never did the Thomas Downes mission I think you get sick after Thomas breaks up your fight. Just my opinion.

  • @SordidTempest

    @SordidTempest

    4 жыл бұрын

    Same thing, I'm on a replay and i havent done it but rather was coughing without doing the collection mission

  • @HeyImSupercoo

    @HeyImSupercoo

    4 жыл бұрын

    Aaron Ammons that’s just regular coughing.

  • @VVhistory
    @VVhistory4 жыл бұрын

    I had that encounter, when in my killing spree i didn't do main mission of characters for a month, trying to enjoy the discovery of the map and Dutch told me that. I also got that cutscene with strauss and there's were i ended up doing the main mission of downes. That's how they push you and in my opinion i think strauss is the villain of the story like wtf

  • @hugh3s3y_44
    @hugh3s3y_445 жыл бұрын

    It’s so interesting how u be forced to interact with an important mission in the game that has an effect in the story but all them other money missions u can avoid really weird

  • @lennysummers1480

    @lennysummers1480

    5 жыл бұрын

    HuGh3s3Y_ EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING WHEN HE SAID THAT. IT’S NOT INTERESTING AT ALL, IT’S A PIVOTAL MISSON THAT LEADS TO THE ENTIRE TURNING POINT IN THE GAME. WHAT A MORON

  • @n4mel3ssw0lf8

    @n4mel3ssw0lf8

    2 жыл бұрын

    The money missions should be required too in my opinion

  • @micravinxenos3047

    @micravinxenos3047

    2 жыл бұрын

    wonder how successful & on point you'd be if you started your own channel

  • @quantum5269
    @quantum5269 Жыл бұрын

    Rockstar woulda been a real Rockstar, if you ignored seeing downes , Micah goes in Arthur’s place

  • @chaosiscandytome
    @chaosiscandytome3 жыл бұрын

    So you actually caught it from Downes after the brawl in the street. But for certain, from Strauss, when he addresses you, after he met Downes.

  • @Al-vg1qj
    @Al-vg1qj3 жыл бұрын

    I actually avoided doing this mission myself, I noticed for some reason he started coughing and showing signs of having the disease. I never done the mission to complete yet tho and nor have I been reminded or forced, but I was able to continue without doing the mission and notice Arthur starts to cough and stuff like usual

  • @whyarewestillherejusttosuff3r

    @whyarewestillherejusttosuff3r

    2 жыл бұрын

    OK, SAME. I never did the mission, but the game continues on like normal. I was starting to think I was crazy, cause I never saw anyone else say that happened to them, too. Thank you

  • @IoannisPetrakis

    @IoannisPetrakis

    2 жыл бұрын

    Arthur doesn’t cough until chapter 3 and this mission is a mandatory chapter 2 mission. Stop lying brother

  • @chrisjordan2784

    @chrisjordan2784

    2 жыл бұрын

    ​@@IoannisPetrakis facts

  • @darkerthanblack4430

    @darkerthanblack4430

    Жыл бұрын

    Same with me. I was able to blaze through to chapter 5 without visiting Downes at all. But Arthur is pale asf. Lol so the game just gives you TB if you dont go visit the guy I guess

  • @god7916

    @god7916

    Жыл бұрын

    @@darkerthanblack4430 thats literally impossible bro whats the point in lying? you cant pass chapter 2 without completing this mission

  • @bigsmoke9572
    @bigsmoke95725 жыл бұрын

    You litterally told us hosea gave it

  • @sbrw4316

    @sbrw4316

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lmao

  • @Kadbros
    @Kadbros3 жыл бұрын

    " I am inevitable " - Thomas Downes

  • @darkfilmsmocing4293
    @darkfilmsmocing42935 жыл бұрын

    So the forced cutscene you had was how I started the mission for me. So I thought that was default

  • @LostSpaceGuy
    @LostSpaceGuy5 жыл бұрын

    What happens if you shoot dutch before the events of red dead redemption 2😂😂😂

  • @harleytheroadman8220

    @harleytheroadman8220

    3 жыл бұрын

    If only that was the case but red dead redemption 2 is a prequel

  • @darrenjulian

    @darrenjulian

    3 жыл бұрын

    That would have ruined the whole rdr franchise

  • @skubb
    @skubb4 жыл бұрын

    I actively avoided herr Strauss on my first playthrough and this all happened to me and I thought it was normal

  • @eduardosamirciprianohanna217
    @eduardosamirciprianohanna217 Жыл бұрын

    The game just forced me to go to downes after the Mary linton letter. When I got there, I tried shooting downes, but he didn’t die. So I kept running away from him and shooting anyone I found on the street, so the authorities would come and the mission fails. Eventually, in the “mission failed” menu, the option to cancel the mission appears and you are no longer forced to visit downes.

  • @musicman1195

    @musicman1195

    Жыл бұрын

    What happens after that?

  • @SPQRKlio
    @SPQRKlio4 жыл бұрын

    I was spoiled on what happens at the Downes ranch, so I put it off as long as I could; but the game eventually gave me the cut scene and “go to Downes” instruction at the bottom with the ping sound, and again, and again, until I gave in to the inevitable (no more backtracking to a save to see if there was some other mission I could divert to for a while longer). During the ride the music was so eerily heartbreaking, so sad, with such a sense of inevitability, that I was pretty much ready to weep the whole slow ride there, then grew resigned, then let fate happen as it has to happen with Arthur being his strongarm self. It was intensely moving and tragic by that point-high storytelling. I don’t think it would have affected me as much if 1) I’d heard the same music score just riding to Downes earlier on, or 2) if I had been forced there via a cut scene instead of “choosing’’ to accept it. I’m late to playing the game, so keep getting spoiled, but have armed myself with a big fur-lined coat of denial on everything else.

  • @kevg1617

    @kevg1617

    9 ай бұрын

    Thumbs up. It's still a wonderful story, regardless of the end, in fact the end is the crowning jewel. Not knowing beforehand, you got that from the TB infection (before even knowing it was TB narratively), which is unfortunate. The entire emotional payoff is in the end of Arthur, the first time you go through it. Even with someone like me, who knew something happened the second some dude coughed blood right into his mouth and on his face, the extent isn't presented until the diagnosis, and even then, hope remained. The emotional impact of the inevitable end, when you are still hoping something is going to come up, is a piece of pure genius. Arthur had to die, that much is undisputable, but the TB helps accentuate the arc of his redemption in a way that is so very impactful. He was a "good man" from the start, but the TB forced him to accept it as his nature, to see how he was corrupted by guiding figures he believes he owes a debt to and that while he is forced to pay off that debt, he will attempt to alleviate the suffering of the common man as he comes across it. Every other playthrough though, while I still loved the character, that attachment didn't cloud my judgment to the fact that he is a career criminal drowning in blood. He has killed so many people, he cannot even keep count. He deserves to die and your only goal, as a player, is to make sure you feel good about how much he has helped improve the lives of the people around him before that happens, to feel a sense of justified redemption on your dime, or just go about having fun however you want, because it doesn't matter and is just for entertainment. That high storytelling you are talking about, it's called foreshadowing, and it's impact is only a factor of having already experienced the impactful moments it foreshadows. While not necessarily lazy, flashback forms of foreshadowing (starting a story with the death of the character, then going back in time to show how it happened and having an impactful moment of "truth", for example) are less propped up by the result, than the action that defines the result. In rdr2, the action defining the result is beating up a dude and having him cough up blood into your mouth and on your face, which, while certainly something of note to an imbiber of entertainment (this is very obvious foreshadowing), it is not climactic. We still do not know if this has any impact (it's a story and even more so, a video game), but we can hold an inkling of dread in our hearts. The result, however, when it finally comes is one of the best moments of video game story telling, possibly the best. Everyone who has played this game to the end, loves Arthur and does not want him to die and anyone who thinks about it a bit, after grieving the loss of a pixelated, fictional character, understands that he had to die, because Arthur, despite the many qualities we may ascribe to him as our in game avatar, with whom we've spent tens to hundreds of hours, is a mass murdering criminal who deserves death and for whom there is no in life redemption. He finally gains redemption through his death, the final act of betterment to alleviate suffering, him no longer able to inflict it on others, whether by volition or forced.

  • @izzybat666
    @izzybat6665 жыл бұрын

    Yeah it did that to me but I antiognise Strauss when I got back and told him to wipe that smile off his face lol

  • @user-qu3jt2ql1v
    @user-qu3jt2ql1v2 жыл бұрын

    Strauss:”Mr. Morgan,can,can I…. Are you okay?” Arthur:(Knowing he’s doomed to die after this mission)”Yes…”

  • @Kladbishche
    @Kladbishche Жыл бұрын

    I was at Clemens point when I was forced to go the Downe's ranch Thomas was already dead and his wife and son were packing to go to Annisburg and Aurther still got Tuberculosis

  • @tidge879
    @tidge8795 жыл бұрын

    Dutch talks to you before you start the Strauss missions, that's when they appear in camp.

  • @Ashfielder
    @Ashfielder5 жыл бұрын

    TLDR you have to go, you should know this by now.

  • @ThatOneNerd2
    @ThatOneNerd24 жыл бұрын

    YOU CANT Edit: Arthur, I’m sorry my brother.

  • @sappyfoot
    @sappyfoot2 жыл бұрын

    the law struggles to find the gang, but mrs downes barely breaks a sweat 😂

  • @turkperry4910
    @turkperry49103 жыл бұрын

    I watched a video that showed a way to confront Mr. Downes and not get infected, but every time I try it, it won't let me do it. I'm going to see if I can find that secret mission where Arthur finds the cure.

  • @xaaronbeleskyx

    @xaaronbeleskyx

    2 жыл бұрын

    I watched the same video.. took me 5 tries

  • @espada6002
    @espada60025 жыл бұрын

    How could possibly Strauss told Micah to go?Micah is a hard headed

  • @AndroidBoiYaBoi
    @AndroidBoiYaBoi5 жыл бұрын

    Next video: what happens if you shoot someone.

  • @mjeb0282

    @mjeb0282

    5 жыл бұрын

    android boi 😂😂😂😂😂next video what happens if Arthur wears a mask when beating up Thomas downs again or somthing

  • @megabucks8888

    @megabucks8888

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@mjeb0282 thats alr done by him

  • @L0U1S11
    @L0U1S114 ай бұрын

    Holy shit I never realised this is how Arthur gets tuberculosis.

  • @CCJJ160Channels
    @CCJJ160Channels2 жыл бұрын

    4:44 - games forces you into the mission “I was miles away, I’m afraid.”

  • @macgyver3434
    @macgyver34345 жыл бұрын

    Same thing as most of your other videos. There ISN'T a secret outcome, you can't progress in the game without seeing him, you get sick no matter what.

  • @KarleyBrandon
    @KarleyBrandon4 жыл бұрын

    This unfortunately was what happened to me the first time I played, I wanted to try and avoid the mission, but I saw the letter after I was told about Linton, very sneaky, sucky, and confusing scenario? *I was confused because I knew you could avoid it, but I was forced into it, again it being the very first time I played RDR2.*

  • @Agent00337
    @Agent003374 ай бұрын

    I love how Arthur gets coughed on once and gets tuberculosis. But Arthur walks (rides) around everywhere, coughing on everything and everyone all the time, and everyone is fine.

  • @wintersoldier164
    @wintersoldier1642 жыл бұрын

    thomas downess spit in arthurs eye: I am inevitable

  • @corriegough5879
    @corriegough58795 жыл бұрын

    Pretty sure I’ve already seen this

  • @mistico2379
    @mistico23795 жыл бұрын

    I wonder what would happen if it played out that Micah went to the Down's Ranch.

  • @flamgoiscool2882

    @flamgoiscool2882

    5 жыл бұрын

    He probably killed everyone

  • @Potato_7
    @Potato_7 Жыл бұрын

    Interestingly enough, on my first playthrough of the game, I got the "secret" cutscene after the letter from mary just because I'd been exploring and hunting for too long, and I also didn't want to go beat up a sick man so I subconciously avoided it for long enough for the game to force me into it

  • @menareawesome4607
    @menareawesome4607 Жыл бұрын

    This tuberculosis thing is such an unnecessary part of the story. What an perfect game this could be without getting Arthur sick and die at the end?!

  • @324051806
    @3240518062 жыл бұрын

    If you purposely avoid the mission Strauss will eventually come up to you in Camp and tell you that Thomas Downs has died and that you have to go visit the Widow to collect the money. I'm in chapter 4 with no problem or sickness. I have collected the money without contracting TB.

  • @justNYsports.

    @justNYsports.

    Жыл бұрын

    Did you end up getting it?

  • @324051806

    @324051806

    Жыл бұрын

    @@justNYsports. yes after coming back from guarma I had it. Dont know how but I got it.

  • @MarkanVaran7

    @MarkanVaran7

    Жыл бұрын

    @@324051806 I always thought when colm o driscoll captured arthur that influenced his health quite a lot. Being beaten like that, kept half naked in cold place... idk

  • @FKH23577

    @FKH23577

    11 ай бұрын

    My question is is how did you advance the game. It's the only mission I have to choose from. I've been debating on just shooting him and don't worry about the payment.

  • @kevg1617

    @kevg1617

    9 ай бұрын

    @@MarkanVaran7 perhaps, but he could not have caught tuberculosis, without contracting it from another human. Tuberculosis doesn't just exist outside of a human host or develop naturally through a process of compromised immune response, it travels from one host to another and infects the new host with the bacteria. In order for Arthur to contract tuberculosis, he has to have been in close contact with another human who had tuberculosis. This is why the tuberculosis vaccine is so important when travelling to a country that has tuberculosis and why countries that don't have tuberculosis are well advised to keep track of any signs of tuberculosis in their populations, in order to cure it through antibiotics before it spreads too widely, or, if we were playing a video game as a civilization planner, why "forcing" (within the framework of forcing pixels for best game results) your population to be inoculated against TB would be so important. Incidentally, the reasons why tracking TB and inoculating against it are so important, do not apply to the most recent issue we had medically, just to go off on a tangent. The difference in results from tracking a curable and entirely inoculable infection, to those of tracking an incurable and ultimately indefensible (the variables involved in complete inoculation are too multi varied to determine) are night and day. The goal of tracking for a benign, rapid mutation infection for which only the more severe symptoms can be somewhat protected against is not medical, at least not within easy memory of the event that classified the disease as a major threat to humanity, the response to which was exaggerated and unwarranted. The medical community does not benefit from the statistical tracking of the illness, only in observing the mutations as they come up, while not reporting on them unless they present a risk factor such as an increased mortality rate, which would make no sense in a rapid mutation, endemic, benign infection in the first place. Tracking becomes political in that case, and anything that relates entirely to politics is to be frowned upon. The world contains enough work for every human to work on the hierarchy of their needs (legally), without looking for work the entire premise of which is to affect people negatively in order to forcefully extricate labor from them to subsidize what is presented as a solution to the negative outcome. This is in strict contrast with the ability to discern a market need and to supply the market with the desired product to satisfy that need. Political motivations mean political results and the results in politics are always an increase in the bureaucratic overhead costs involved in government. There is not a human on Earth who cannot spend a dollar better than someone who is not subject to market forces: the government does not compete for your money or to sell their product (they do not sell it to you, nor do they have anyone else selling it who could take over their enforced role)

  • @SenseiProductionsOfficial
    @SenseiProductionsOfficial5 жыл бұрын

    What happens if you make the same video multiple times???

  • @josepessanha651

    @josepessanha651

    5 жыл бұрын

    You get more views so you get more $$$$

  • @henrylaxative8840

    @henrylaxative8840

    5 жыл бұрын

    José Pessanha all at the cost of your dignity

  • @masterchief5437
    @masterchief5437 Жыл бұрын

    I just through a fire bottle at him then you fail the mission, thought I could just pass it that way lol

  • @sheldonamante9498
    @sheldonamante94982 жыл бұрын

    Forces you to go there but before the mission actually starts...shoot Downes before the cut scene.

  • @gwoody4003
    @gwoody40032 жыл бұрын

    Interesting vid. I tried avoiding Downes as long as possible my 3rd playthrough but theres just no way to avoid any yellow story missions.

  • @mrtn_1230

    @mrtn_1230

    2 жыл бұрын

    It turns from white to yellow on the map if you continue to ignore it..

  • @ajbrazov
    @ajbrazov5 ай бұрын

    Had all these encounters on my ever first playthrough without knowing anything about at the time

  • @shrek6
    @shrek65 жыл бұрын

    You go to tahiti

  • @larryadkins1984
    @larryadkins19845 жыл бұрын

    It's awesome that you make videos for both story mode and online. Keep it up 👍

  • @selvinmckay6768

    @selvinmckay6768

    5 жыл бұрын

    No...it's stupid. He's done this before...months ago. He replaying to stay relevant. But I'm tired of seeing his vids pop up on my fucking recommend lol

  • @Justme-pt1ld

    @Justme-pt1ld

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@selvinmckay6768 It's probably because you pressed notifications on his channel. Let people have opinions. You're not the only human on earth.

  • @selvinmckay6768

    @selvinmckay6768

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Justme-pt1ld done this experiment tho lol

  • @micravinxenos3047

    @micravinxenos3047

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Justme-pt1ld exactly some people are just complaintive children

  • @Greenscreen6075-o5h
    @Greenscreen6075-o5h4 ай бұрын

    I'm going to try this whenever I get to restart the whole game from beginning

  • @Hazurt_
    @Hazurt_2 жыл бұрын

    "one of you sent me this on my Facebook page" old man vibes

  • @victorysaber1608
    @victorysaber16085 жыл бұрын

    I've seen a better thing. After the train robbery he is forced to see mrs downes. But you can do that before the train robbery.

  • @elidean9922

    @elidean9922

    4 жыл бұрын

    Victory Saber explain please

  • @blazetieftw
    @blazetieftw3 жыл бұрын

    I’ve completed 48 percent of the game without visiting Downs. Still trying to make it at least halfway to completion without getting TB on that save file.

  • @captainagust5600
    @captainagust56004 ай бұрын

    When strauss ask you to go, you go in the horse in emerald ranch direction, after you cross the train walk, you will losse the mission, then you should choose "restart the mission". After that you should appear out of the thomas ranch, then you kill them and you will loose the kission again, but this time you will have the option to cancel the mission, the you can go with mary. The thomas mission will be still appearing but we can continue with other missions. When you rescue the mary's brother you will hear a very beautifull music ambient while you are walking to valentine. I dont know what comes because i am doing this today.i hope this can change something in the narrative i you visit mary with no any sick.

  • @RETRO--qs9cf

    @RETRO--qs9cf

    4 ай бұрын

    Then what happened?

  • @nickcohen2821
    @nickcohen28215 жыл бұрын

    I was able to put it off until the last mission with sheep

  • @CritiqueAI
    @CritiqueAI4 жыл бұрын

    I never visited the Downes family before the husband/father dies. The first time I visited was after his death. I am fairly certain of this! However, Arthur still gets ill after Chapter 5 - so he must have gotten it elsewhere - maybe when he was being beaten up in Gaurma.

  • @jacobholland418

    @jacobholland418

    4 жыл бұрын

    That makes no sense at all

  • @abdoelemam5410

    @abdoelemam5410

    2 жыл бұрын

    Actually that what I was thinking in my first playthrough

  • @HorrorFANtastic15

    @HorrorFANtastic15

    Жыл бұрын

    Me when I lie

  • @selvinmckay6768
    @selvinmckay67685 жыл бұрын

    If you are gonna play the story you have to visit if you want to progress through the chapters. It's part of the story...you'll be bored out your mind if you avoid completing chapters. Side missions and side people come along as your progress through the game, you'll be stuck in chapter 2 if you don't visit Downes ranch. There's nothing you can do to stop Arthur from dying unless you just don't complete story missions. I even tried killing Downes while he was in valentine. He can't die until he dies...you can't kill anyone that goes along with the story. Or else what would be the point of the story? Arthur dies...nothing you can do about it. Now stop making these videos...move on.

  • @selvinmckay6768

    @selvinmckay6768

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Thomas Breen but you'll be stuck in the chapter lol

  • @kevg1617

    @kevg1617

    9 ай бұрын

    Necro There is a lot of game in Chapter 2, which is when I like to do most of it, while Arthur is healthy. Most of the game outside of the missions can be done in chapter 2, most notably the biggest part, hunting, which, while it can't be finished, can be damn near close. You can also get rich on quite a few gold bars, with at least 3 treasure maps, plus the 6 free roam, no map bars available at the start of chapter 2 before you've done anything else in the chapter. Not to mention the various challenges that can be completed. "You'll be bored..." is a bit of an overstatement. If you enjoy the gameplay and what is involved in adding the pages to the story that complete a 100%, chapter two represents the largest portion of your game, unless you are playing for the first time, come in blind and experience open world games without wanting to explore the world as early as you can, which is a lot of factors to "impose" upon a player who would buy this game to begin with

  • @ThePragmo
    @ThePragmo2 жыл бұрын

    It's probably the coolest video game ever made. There is a time I was free roaming and then decided to camp. When I woke up, it opened with a cut scene of about 3 scary dirty men waking me up in the middle of the dead night and warning me never to camp there again. They declared that they would shoot me the next time they saw me. I have played the game about 5 times more and I have never encountered that cut scene again. 🤔

  • @0201pegasus
    @0201pegasus Жыл бұрын

    If you’re riding the opposite direction when you reed the letter there pop up the mission faild screen. Then you press restart at checkpoint. You’ll respawn directly at the farm just ride again the opposite direction after the mission failed screen pop up you can exit the mission. Thank me later. (Auto save must be turned on)

  • @Bigsztat
    @Bigsztat5 жыл бұрын

    "sEcReT oUtComE"

  • @intellectracoon
    @intellectracoon9 ай бұрын

    Anybody tried this while wearing a mask 😅

  • @RealCatFish69

    @RealCatFish69

    3 ай бұрын

    It didn't really work🐌

  • @zedbags
    @zedbags3 жыл бұрын

    I tried to do the first Mary mission. and after reading the letter Strauss forced me into going to Downes

  • @AlexisLK
    @AlexisLK Жыл бұрын

    I had a visit from Charles if I remember well, while I was away from camp. He just came on horseback and said something like "Hey Arthur when are you going to come back to camp ? We need your help and we need money, I think Strauss asked about you" or something like that.

  • @retrocny5625
    @retrocny56254 жыл бұрын

    My first playthrough, I did the mission pretty much as the game intends you to do it, aka as soon as it's open. My 2nd playthrough, I avoided Strauss all the way up past chapter 2, and well into chapter 3 until randomly, he walks past me and says something along the lines of "Hey, you know that Debtor I told you about? Thomas Downes? Turns out he's dead. I still need you to collect the debt from his wife however." So now, the game will always behave as if you went and beat up Downes, even if you never did. If you skip it long enough, you'll get the prompt to go see Mrs Downes after the bank robbery mission in Valentine in Chapter 3. When you see her, she'll treat you as if you had already been there and beat up her husband like how the canon story arch of the game is supposed to go. I guess they must have changed that in one of the many updates the game has gotten since it came out. I heard that originally, the game forced you to do the normal strauss mission and you'd just keep getting mission fails if you didn't. That doesn't happen anymore looks like.

  • @BlazeInBlack

    @BlazeInBlack

    2 жыл бұрын

    nice story bro, definitely real 👍

  • @keifferkenreyestuazon2625

    @keifferkenreyestuazon2625

    Жыл бұрын

    this is legit. it happened to me just now after the valentine bank robbery.

  • @jeezul
    @jeezul5 жыл бұрын

    This video needs more dislikes

  • @erxyt

    @erxyt

    4 жыл бұрын

    Time to make 20 accounts

  • @clairethebearplays4463

    @clairethebearplays4463

    4 жыл бұрын

    ErykGaming lol

  • @alastortheradiodemon5438

    @alastortheradiodemon5438

    3 жыл бұрын

    true

  • @umion6009

    @umion6009

    3 жыл бұрын

    Why?

  • @mitch3384
    @mitch338414 күн бұрын

    I didn't visit Thomas Downes. Arthur had a great life outlawing all over the countryside, dropping in to see his previous running buddies at Horseshoe Overlook to break balls, then eventually retired to a tenured position at table 3 in Smithfield's Saloon.

  • @majorlagg9321
    @majorlagg93215 ай бұрын

    So, the law can't locate the gang but a rancher's widow can. Lol

  • @Doughy3205
    @Doughy32055 жыл бұрын

    Long story short you can’t proceed the missions

  • @bluelust7936
    @bluelust79365 жыл бұрын

    You've done this, the mission is a main mission you do it or you dont proceed

  • @talal3208
    @talal32082 жыл бұрын

    What goes around, comes around.

  • @goatyachty1762
    @goatyachty17626 ай бұрын

    How crazy this is exactly what happened my first play through i didnt even know what would happen

  • @dragonninja5639
    @dragonninja56395 жыл бұрын

    What happens if you hogtie joe on mount hegan in the epilougue

  • @clairethebearplays4463

    @clairethebearplays4463

    4 жыл бұрын

    DRAGON Ninja omg who’s joe

  • @Sully10x1

    @Sully10x1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@clairethebearplays4463 joe mama

  • @lennysummers1480
    @lennysummers14805 жыл бұрын

    HOW MANY TIMES ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE THE SAME VIDEO? MR BOSS WITH ANOTHER LOSS SHOULD BE YOUR NAME

  • @agoodballet
    @agoodballet Жыл бұрын

    I just started playing this game yesterday and I somehow knew there was something wrong with going to see Thomas Downes.

  • @mr2spyderchronicles287
    @mr2spyderchronicles2873 жыл бұрын

    Also i went there with a hood on my head and arthur removes it and you cant put it back. Not even the bandana

  • @kavybatiste8853
    @kavybatiste88535 жыл бұрын

    lol I got this outcome my first play through

  • @dudesuh6180
    @dudesuh61805 жыл бұрын

    Fam cmon now you shouldn’t need to make THESE videos go stay relevant

  • @vikinglife6316
    @vikinglife63163 жыл бұрын

    It looks too much like Strauss set up Arthur knowing he would die.

  • @dennisn1672
    @dennisn16723 жыл бұрын

    If you read the letter from mary. The game forces you to go immediately to mr downs. If you go anywhere else it will end the mission until you do so. So collect as many items and side missions as possible before then. And leave micha's ass in jail until you have to get him out to progress the game. Which basically sucks after that point.

  • @metricmaximus100
    @metricmaximus1005 жыл бұрын

    please just tell me wtf happened to you dude you used to be interesting

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