What happens if TikTok goes away?
The prospect of a TikTok ban has loomed for years, but it’s closer to reality than ever now that Biden has signed a bill giving its Chinese parent company, ByteDance, nine months to sell the app or see it banned in the United States. It’s still not a sure thing, as China has signaled it will block a sale, and TikTok has vowed to challenge the law in court.
While the bill’s stated aim is to protect Americans from Chinese spying and influence via the popular social media app, it’s true that there’s another group that stands to benefit: the U.S. tech companies that have been struggling to compete with TikTok. Those include Meta, Google and, to a lesser extent, Snap and Amazon.
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Imagine the poor Shorts KZreadrs who won’t have TikToks to steal and repupload
@GSBarlev
Ай бұрын
It's only affecting the US. So all those lucrative TikTok reuoploading jerbs are going overseas. Thanks, Joe Biden.
@handson4580
Ай бұрын
Good for us, yay! Now the question is if the tiktok refugees come here
@Zeroshiki
Ай бұрын
@@handson4580You know they will. Most of the relevant Viners came over after Vine shut down. Some were gems, like Drew Gooden and Danny Gonzalez, and others .. not.
@MaliciousMega
Ай бұрын
Or the green screen kids, they'll have less to "react" to.
@LuckyOwl_7
Ай бұрын
Don’t worry guys we’ll still get horrible takes from joe rogan
It just hit me that musically and tiktok are one and the same……
@pvp6077
Ай бұрын
💀💀💀 guess you didn't see all the videos hating on the "new social media platform all the kids sre suddenly into" when it first came out. A lot of the earliest users were literally ported over from their original musiclly account. And there were sooooo many youtubers talking smack about it in videos before seeing imaginary dollar signs and making an account, only to eventually abandon their youtube channels and start posting exclusively to tiktok despite the ability to cross post everything instantly, leaving total randos to start stealing their tiktok videos and posting them here 🤡🤡🤡
@bzavacado
Ай бұрын
*HOWWWW!?!?!?!*
@red_totality
Ай бұрын
Took you this long to notice? Man you must be Patrick Star the way you living under a rock
@evilded2
Ай бұрын
No shit
@dhruvpatki2169
Ай бұрын
@@bzavacadonah I had a lot of shit going on in my personal life when tiktok was becoming popular. Didn’t really pay attention, and then one day tiktok was all anyone was talking about.
“It’s lonely in a phone” 😭
I'm glad that the US government is protecting the poor US companies from scary things like competition.
@jaygames3905
Ай бұрын
It's your data num nuts not competition 😜
@potatoes869
Ай бұрын
@jaygames3905 data schmata. It wasn't proven that it does. The boomers in congress just want it gone cause they're afraid of the Chinese government. I'm not saying I like tiktok. Frankly I want it gone. But it's just the U.S. trying to do something that seems meaningful in the eyes of old people.
@halpee7690
Ай бұрын
It’s not like competition is one of the main parts of a *capitalistic* economy
@NehejjeHcchh
Ай бұрын
@@jaygames3905You mean the data which every social media company collects?
@benmikk11x
Ай бұрын
@@jaygames3905ok so when is Congress going after Meta and Google?
And he was worried he wouldn't have a unique presence with this channel. You're doing a great job, glad you're here!
@pleurote6988
Ай бұрын
Second this!
@thecupcakehey1608
Ай бұрын
Unfortunately, Europeans and possibly those with vpns can still take them, and since no one can see the TikToks they might get even more populat
even Spotify, the MUSIC APP, has short form content now content wars are so dumb
@tiredman99
Ай бұрын
Wait what?
Love the slight character break at the end
It really is just about taking out the competition, if they actually cared about our data, they would put up ACTUAL laws protecting our data from apps owned by other countries. Tiktok isnt the only chinese app, its just the biggest. If this craze goes on we should probably expect to see apps like Shein and Temu be banned aswell.
@amigos4erin
Ай бұрын
I’d agree, except that two opposing presidents (Trump and Biden) have wanted to get rid of TikTok. It’s banned from all government devices because it’s widely believed to be spyware. But not FB or Insta or KZread (as far as I’m aware). I don’t like Temu, but it doesn’t have anything close to the potential to harm people that TT does if it is really spyware that is literally stealing info on about half of Americans. If it isn’t, then it can go on being what it is.
@sophiap7298
Ай бұрын
And also US social media companies
@TheGothRedhead
Ай бұрын
To be fair, Temu and Shein aren't great, but banning apps is worrying all the same.
Why would Bytedance sell TikTok? There’s still plenty of users outside the US. Also this whole banningTikTok thing is really silly and kinda feels authoritarian to me.
@Bloddrake
Ай бұрын
It's not a ban, if you have TikTok on your phone after the bill passes you can still use it. If it were a China style ban you would be arrested and thrown in jail for having it on your phone.
Ugh. Monopolies. We need more antitrust lawsuit.
Thanks for calling out how problems don't exist in isolation and the solution to one problem may make another problem worse. Too bad so many people won't pick up that point and apply it to every social or national problem we face.
Let's just take Tiktok and push it to wherever MySpace went
@ILIVEAGOODLIFE
Ай бұрын
Tiktok is global. Only the U.S. access is being restricted. Do you even know what's going on? The Chinese version of tiktok has over 750 million users
A bunch of companies are about to have a battle royal for it lol
@galerus3776
Ай бұрын
Oh god, they are hungry sharks that smell blood in the water.
I just hate how my feed is 40% shorts 20% community posts 30% ad walls 10% single videos it’s stupid at least the pc version is 90% videos
@fadywael7547
Ай бұрын
What
@AyeitsMause
Ай бұрын
@@fadywael7547 KZread desktop has an update that's annoying, if you don't have it now it'll happen soon
@goldfish7326
Ай бұрын
That's because shorts are 90% broken on PC.
@brunobucciarati9308
Ай бұрын
Ever heard of KZread revanced? It has the ability to remove shorts, play music in the background, etc. But rn it's having a small issue where music pauses because of background battery optimization.
@cameronwilsey9334
Ай бұрын
@@brunobucciarati9308 Was gonna mention it. Though you can turn the battery optimization thing off so everything will play on the background
HELL FROZE!!! THE LAND OF THE FREE HAS DONE CENSORSHIP!!!! Never in my life i would expect the "Freedom Loving, First Ammendment" USA to ban website
@phoenixofthestix
Ай бұрын
I would
@daniel-panek
Ай бұрын
Many politicians in the US are hypocrites. Virtually all Republicans and some Democrats. They are extraordinarily unprincipled and their voters don't care, for many instances.
You're incredible, Joseph. Just phenomenal.
lol mark zuckerberg and ethics in the same sentence
Plot twist: the ban of tiktok is intended to make those monopolies stronger, to build the FTC's case against them. /j
It’s lonely in real life too mate - no worries. We’re all in our own phones but one day we will all break free!
Blink twice if you need help.
Vine musicly all that was so good
In case anyone hasn't said it directly, that really was well said, and I deeply appreciate the content you and the rest of the Washington Post social media team have been bringing to us in these delicious bite sized shorts. It might not seem like much, but you're my 3rd favourite news channel after a singing comedy group who sings my news to the tune of the Little Shop of Horrors, and a guy who opens every video with "Hey country, what's going on with you?" and delivers the worldwide news faster than the countries themselves. I never in my life believed that anyone could compete with Omar and Lewberger for accuracy, speed, and amusement in the delivery of my world news.
Waiting for Elon to bring back vine
It felt like you were ready to drop a bar throught the entire short
The fact nobody raises an eyebrow when thr list of identical platforms that could replace it are all US based is pretty damning. The world is done.
@thesilentpearl8575
Ай бұрын
Worst part is tiktok stores their data in oracle, so all the data is still in american hands
Get these oldheads out of office or at least have the president have a tech secretary in his cabinet
VPN slaes about to go crazy😂
Hear me out. If tick tock gets banned, Vine might come back to fill the power vacuum
The punchline 😂
I remember when Musicly changed to TikTok… it was before the Cyber Addiction
Facebook talking about privacy concerns is comical
Apart from the content creators losing a platform overall we as consumers would be better off without extremely short form content like TikTok, KZread shorts and reels.
Well said.
It can't be too lonely if you're laughing that hard.
TikTok success stems from the fact that musically related people to their music, their ambitions. And what they wanted to explore with their message. That database is critical to their Central content creators. None of the other companies have it. And they're not going to be able to sell this space until they do
A tiktok ban would breach the first amendment, so they can't ban tiktok as the constitution is the only thing that gives the government any authority, so breaching the first amendment, basically makes them a threat to freedom itself.
Article 1 Section 8 is going in strong on this one, nothing Byte Dance can really do but throw a tantrum. Likely big players will buy it up, but it will probably be a company that could gain it with little fight from the FTC, so Microsoft for example has no video service could get a hold of it, or the weird suggestions like Oracle obtaining it. Byte Dance may still have the ability to keep a share of Tik Tok, namely under the 25% foreign investment rule.
Snapchat short form has been around for a while it’s just kinda hidden and absolutely sucks
Zuckerberg is in the best positin to make such a statement😂
im pretty sure they wont sell
I mean considering the CCP has a right to any and all of your information passing regulation stating a US company needs to own it is pretty reasonable
@washingtonpostuniverse, We appreciate this excellent news platform. You especially distinguished yourself back in the Watergate era.
Send them to reels
One reason why American social media platforms haven't resorted to outright "manufactured consent" is due to foreign competition. So, the problem isn't what American social media plaforms are doing TODAY, but what they will do once their COMPETITION is gone!
If I’m getting spied on they better be American at least 💀
I hope so.
For a sec I thought his hand turned white
So now all of the sudden the US government gives a shit about our privacy?
If it goes away then onion browser downloads will skyrocket
What if they just make a us company or something and sell it so that so they can still own the app but it won’t be from china?
Google or meta buying it will put them into hot water with antitrust legislation. Microsoft or Amazon ate best positioned for this purchase, potentially X as well, but it's unlikely their ceo is willing to fork out more cash right now
Screw Tik Tok. But I can't see any problems with ancient mummies who've never used the internet making laws regulating the internet!
Europeans seem to be able to handle the issues. We have anti-trust. Could we please stop the monopolies. Dude, we still have problems getting baby formula.
Without regulation, a TikTok clone is inevitable.
I hope it doesn’t get into Elon musks hands Apartheid Clyde will ruin it
Just fyi, great job. 😁
Am I the only one who just found out TikTok was musically
Don't go to any of them remember that each and every single one of them had something to do with this ban if tiktok does get banned then just come here for the time being until we either find a way to get it back or make a new one
@eddyangstman
Ай бұрын
you are literally commenting this on one of them
@DemonicsInc
Ай бұрын
@eddyangstman oh I know like I said until we get a new one made
26:22 Parts: Sulfur: 2 parts. Charcoal (airfloat) 3 parts. KNO3: 25 parts. Have fun
@670ah
Ай бұрын
What’s that
@ianwilson1302
Ай бұрын
@@670ah ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I don't care why TikTok is getting banned i find it stupid no matter what cause why is this our governments biggest priority and for so long too
@PingSharp
Ай бұрын
National security?
@EshDerp1425_Monke
Ай бұрын
@@PingSharpit only got banned because it was part of a NINETY FIVE BILLION dollar bill.
@hackerkiller2131
Ай бұрын
Well that’s the problem “you don’t care why…”. That level of ignorance is why.
@beskarbaron6503
Ай бұрын
@@PingSharp Corporate wallets.
@Deaf_Notes
Ай бұрын
@@PingSharpdomestic companies are already selling our data overseas so that's clearly not it
In India, tik tok is banned 4 years ago.. 😐😏
I will never use Facebook for anything. The guy is a criminal. We should ban facebook not tiktok.
Good
I still don't know why they didn't just say it's because Tiktok is cringe. Feels way more believable than the data theft excuse.
@eddyangstman
Ай бұрын
because freedom of speech includes the freedom to post cringe shit. this whole thing is ultimately the government trying to regulate what social media apps are saying but they cant admit that bc its breaking the first amendment so they have to say its a security risk
If tik tok gets banned, shorts wins forever
@OneBrokenEgg
Ай бұрын
Yeah but then all of the TikTokers will flee to here
@ILIVEAGOODLIFE
Ай бұрын
Shorts doesn't have tiktoks algorithm. It won't be the same
@ILIVEAGOODLIFE
Ай бұрын
@OneBrokenEgg not really. Shorts doesn't have tiktok's algorithm. It will definitely be a different user experience
Still don’t have never logged into the TikTok
LONG LIVE FREEDOM 🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸
Bring back Vine
Snapchat is the worsr
This was zucks plan all along...
Rich juden are tryna get tiktok censored
Wow band TikTok they caused so much disaster
Shorts are built better
@ILIVEAGOODLIFE
Ай бұрын
Shorts literally copied tiktok 😅
Worst fucking invention of modern time
Hopefully it’s a new company who buys TikTok. Microsoft could do.
thumbs up if u r vegan
USE A VPN!
i really dont care if tik tok gets banned tbh, i dont use it, its full of thirst traps and political extremists/people desperatley looking for attention and drama
@eddyangstman
Ай бұрын
that is literally what youtube shorts is too like 99% of shorts are reposted tiktoks including this video.
I liked my own comment
If it goes away, the world will be a better place.
@eddyangstman
Ай бұрын
it really wont. first off this ban would only exist in the us so other countries would still have the app and second the void left by tiktok in the us would just be filled by things like youtube shorts, what youre commenting on right now and what is already mostly reposted tiktoks like this exact video.
Byebye tik tok!!😂😂
I will celebrate with beer cuz social media is the reason why our culture is such trash
@caloo5448
Ай бұрын
This won’t get rid of tick tok just change where the vids are posted too and where people watch them
@cementbox4430
Ай бұрын
Hah social media make too much money, they just don’t want China to get that money then again China can by from third parties legally for the data
@KerboRos
Ай бұрын
dawg what
@alexthewrecker4666
Ай бұрын
You aren't very bright if you think this will change culture in a way you would like 😂
@kymmikmarie
Ай бұрын
"celebrate with beer" Alcoholism. Alcoholism should be your biggest concern sir.
We will celebrate. Thats what.
ELON BRING BACK VINE
People have been pointing out the potential security risk of TikTok gor SEVERAL YEARS. This should have been done a long time ago.
This new guy is like 0% funny compared to all the other regulars
Bring back music.ly