It was a difficult one to put together. Honestly, not happy how it came out - I wanted it shorter. But after 4 re-shoots, here we are! You can see the new belt buckles pilling up in the back to see how much time I've spent working on this one!!! I think next tip video should be poles (but not sure)

@canelami1285

Күн бұрын

Yes poles video... I haven't done an ultra, but after 100K bicycle ride a quick full body 15-30 min massage makes a huge difference!

@emmarunyeard6832

Күн бұрын

I felt it was a really valuable vlog, obvs everyone is different and there will (as you say) be variables but having the phases explained so well was, I think very helpful 🎉

I think the post-race blues is something we often don't talk about but is important to know. Watch out for that!

@thomasostroski7113

3 күн бұрын

Good point!

@ArcaneSpells

2 күн бұрын

Have heard about this for post long distance thru hiking, interesting and important to know it can happen with post-race too. Thx for sharing!

@runningwithsimon

2 күн бұрын

@@ArcaneSpells Did you do a through hike yourself?! That'd be my dream - but def not happening unfortunately. It must be even harder for them because for 4-5 months, normal rules don't apply. You do whatever, whenever - which sounds absolutely liberating! But then coming back to real and mundane life....ouch!

@trentwilliamson4021

2 күн бұрын

Definitely worth discussing. After completing my first 50k I was buzzing then went flat as a tack. It was really noticeable the change. How you bounce back mentally would be a great insight Simon.

@runningwithsimon

2 күн бұрын

@@trentwilliamson4021 I don't think I have great insigths here. I try to always have something up next, although I used to have less. I try to be 'nice' to myself a little bit too - I don't mind not necessarily going hard at it immediately. But eventually, it just comes back. Motivation is hard to create, so I don't know...

This is a brilliant advert for not doing ultras. Will it stop anyone? Of course not. Keep up the awesome videos. 👍

@runningwithsimon

2 күн бұрын

haha you got me ! That's my long term strategy to win races: convincing people that ultra running is a terrible idea. In my other videos, I hammer message like "run slow!" with the pretense that it will help keep pace. But really, it's just for me to get a head start!

"In the acute phase, you'll feel like you're dying, but you're PROOBBBBABLY not.... " Thanks for the boost of confidence! 😂😂 Loved this, very helpful. As a farmer, I've got no choice but to be up moving around, feeding and shoveling, the day after- and sometimes the day of- ultras. It sucks at the time, but I really think it helps!

@runningwithsimon

19 сағат бұрын

That's impressive! I think we talked about it before, but yeah, I'd struggle if my work was physical!!

You probably recovered faster because filming the process made you more cognizant of what your body is feeling and what it needs. Great video!

@runningwithsimon

2 күн бұрын

That's an interesting theory!...If that's the case, I'll always fine myself !!! My theory is that I ran Zion slower because I already knew I'd be racing Fuji 2 weeks later, followed by cocodona 250 1 week after. I was still tired at zion, but I think heat was the main issue, which isn't as destructive long term (vs. simply running fast). Either way, it's true that filming you tend to notice what you do more, which is a great way to have better habits

@Seanonyoutube

2 күн бұрын

@@runningwithsimon perhaps a little of both! Enjoyed the video and amazed by your volume of running…rock on buddy!

Watching this after getting in from a hot 21 mile training run for my first ultra in a month 🙌 The immediate feelings were pretty accurate Cool shower, protein shake & nap were my priorities

@runningwithsimon

2 күн бұрын

1 month :)

We recover very similarly! Great advice keeping in mind that we all recover differently!

@runningwithsimon

11 сағат бұрын

I think a lot of it comes down to listen to your body and having the humility to take it slower sometimes.

I find that moving after the race esp the next day when your body is shouting NO really helps even as u said like a penguin😂

@runningwithsimon

2 күн бұрын

Exactly - it really helps! And after a little bit, your tendons loosen up and it feels much better!

This was so helpful, so many valuable tips! I ran my first ultra back in May, and I was dealing with some injury in the mid phase, the pain was still present until a few weeks ago, and now I'm very slowly rebuilding my training, and being careful if the pain starts to resurface again. Thanks so much for this video again!

@runningwithsimon

Күн бұрын

Glad to hear it finally got better!

As always, your video was very helpful. The mental aspect of the post-race recovery is especially tricky, so it was great to hear your tips and acknowledgement.

@runningwithsimon

Күн бұрын

As always thanks for watching Natalia!

You did an excellent job with this, Simon. I've lived through all these phases and it was great to see even the guy who does it all the time experiences the same. It's a process, for sure!

@runningwithsimon

19 сағат бұрын

We're all only human! ... Even Chuck Norris or Goggins go through these!

Thank you for sharing this. I have not yet (and am not sure if I ever will) ran an ultra, but knowing what happens after is a plus. Loved the penguin comparison :D

@runningwithsimon

2 күн бұрын

My colleagues at work recognize the penguin walk easily now and will automatically ask 'how was your race'.

@sammy_lu552

2 күн бұрын

@@runningwithsimon How do you juggle work and your training schedule? Have you made a video about this before? I would be very interested.

Just finished a 100km yesterday, this is perfect timing!

@runningwithsimon

2 күн бұрын

Let's go! Congratulations :) Hope you recover quickly!

@Kelly_Ben

2 күн бұрын

Congrats!

Appreciate the point about the mental space you might be in. Great video! Penguin walk too funny 🤣

@runningwithsimon

2 күн бұрын

I know quite a few people that fell into a downward spiral. Race is over, training plan is over - why should I go on a long run saturday morning?

Thank you so much for this video Simon! Really helpfull! Although recovery is individual and always different from ultra to ultra, you made a good resumé of the phases which is good to know about. Just ran my first 65km ultra yesterday in an FKT yesterday. So your video just came to the right time! Nice🎉!

@runningwithsimon

Күн бұрын

Congratulations!! Now some well deserved rest :)

This was really, really good. I understand how you feel about the video being a little long, but I do feel the content was necessary, and highly valuable! Your explanation of what starts to happen at day 4 was so accurate it was unbelievable. Feeling "okay" but maybe not quite being "really okay" yet was sooo true for me. This was the same stage when I wanted to start running harder, but stayed patient, and it really paid off - day 4/5 was when I recently tried to speed up a bit too fast and realized my primary road shoes had way too many miles on them and I was experiencing "new" knee pain. The rest of the video was spot on about taking time to really digest everything before making the next decision, although getting something new on the calendar is definitely so important. Great work, as always and the video was just right! I hope anyone newer to this sport (like me) will really pay attention to these lessons!

@runningwithsimon

3 күн бұрын

Thanks! And thanks for sharing :) I think I can be "hard" on myself with these movies sometimes because I want to create the best I can so that it can be the most helpful. And when you have a vision but can't 'execute' on it - it's disappointing.

@Gator35

3 күн бұрын

@@runningwithsimon Understood, for sure. I think "perfecting" these too much could sort of let what makes your content be so authentic and beautiful actually get away from why we love and root for you! You're an amazing, but genuine and real athlete who inspires, but still feels like our trail buddy Simon! Just one person's opinion 🤗

@runningwithsimon

3 күн бұрын

@@Gator35thanks. I really appreciate. And that’s the thing - i appreciate that and the support and understanding. In exchange, i feel it’s only fair to strive to "at least good" because i value your time. No half baked movie. Not saying im overly stressed about it - just that sometimes it feels like "this one isn’t quite there yet". Anyhow totally agree with you and I’ve decided at some point I’d rather be true to myself and my style - knowing some will appreciate it and others won’t. Vs. tayloring and compromising to the mass. So for example, I know that is someone who’s annoyed at the penguin clip. But I find it hilarious, and it reminds me of the first time I met a Japanese partner in person 24 hours after a race. I apologize and said something like "sorry, I’m ok. I don’t usually walk like a grandma, but I raced this weekend". To which he smiled and simply said "or a happy penguin!". Which was the perfect icebreaker and mark a shift from very professional and formal email to a more personal and lasting relationship.

Thank you for sharing, Simon; great video!

@runningwithsimon

Күн бұрын

Thanks!

Great video. Waddle phase 🎉. For me the brain is much slower during days 2,3. It’s hard to work. Bonne course au QMT. J’ai hâte de voir ton video.

@runningwithsimon

10 сағат бұрын

Merci! Ca vient vite!

Great video, thanks for posting 👍 At end of July I have a 200 miler, then a month later a 400 miler... that should be fun! 😱🤪

@runningwithsimon

Күн бұрын

That should be fun! Or minimally, "fun". Good luck - let me know how it goes.

Thankyou for sharing all your insights. This is an excellent video

@runningwithsimon

2 күн бұрын

Thanks Rachael!

The spasms are scary. I never had them and then ran my first marathon in May. I am 45 and it was humbling. My legs spasamed a lot but I got scared because my rib and lower ab area were really spasaming. Freaked me out. Anyways, I'll do it again! One day an ultra!

Yes, the post race blues... I think it is definitely important to talk this stuff,.. The high... The blank Ness... The low... Yes, part of the process, even after a fairly short distance.. I completed a big city road marathon (why oh why.. Never again.. Just not me) after that my body was fine as not huge distance but I was so low after.. Angry that I had wasted my efforts on something not suited to me so I suspect sometimes it's good to always choose races wisely 🎉

@runningwithsimon

19 сағат бұрын

100%!!! There's some race I'll never do again. And I wouldn't go as far as to say I was 'angry', but there's only so many 100 one can do in a year, and 'wasting' the opportunity is unfortunate! I could have done a much cooler one instead! Thanks for that, it's spot on! ps: also...I was very sore after my first marathon!!! I think my body reacts not so well when I push the pace (going longer is okish, but going faster feels very destructive to me)

@emmarunyeard6832

18 сағат бұрын

@@runningwithsimon totally, I was advised years ago to go ultra rather than marathon for that reason but I got sucked into the 'must do a city marathon 'hype ..for some it's everything but I need to take time to see the sights and find myself x

@runningwithsimon

15 сағат бұрын

@@emmarunyeard6832 I’m all for trying things too. I did 2 Ironman a few years back just to see. I knew it was probably not my vibe - but I’d wanted to see it first hand

Thanks!

@runningwithsimon

3 күн бұрын

You bet!

Thanks for sharing!

@runningwithsimon

3 күн бұрын

Thanks for watching :)

Great video ❤ Anyone else struggling with the appetite after races? I just finished my first 100k 3 weeks ago, and my appetite was gone for the first 4-5 day's afterwards. And I'm usually a foodie who can eat all the time 🤔

@runningwithsimon

Күн бұрын

Curious to hear if common. Have mostly heard (and experienced) the opposite myself. Except like at first when your gut is still all messed up. Is it better now?

@wunderliaufeinhornsuche5901

15 сағат бұрын

​@@runningwithsimonI'm absolutely fine now. But my gut was also messed up for a few days, so this could have been the reason for a lack of appetite. And thank you so much for reacting to every comment 🫶

As always such great advice! Man your run times are my sprint times 😂😂! Good to know all this stuff. Planning my first ultra for next year but since we farm ill make sure my husband wont be at work just in case i cant hobble around as well as a penguin 😂 my critters dont need to suffer for my poor decisions 😂

@runningwithsimon

3 күн бұрын

The penguin walk is the most efficient way to walk around!!!

Great video and very informative ! Thank you very much! I am personally still afraid of thinking what is going to happen during the first hours after my next race. In the best case, it will take 48 hours and more realistically something like 52..54 hours, not far from the official race cut off time of 58 hours. Could you please recommend the 3 most important things to do and what not to do during the first 6 hours after such a long race?

@runningwithsimon

2 күн бұрын

58 hours?!!! What race is that - wow. Well for a race of that length, I'd compare it to Ouray for me. Drink, eat and sleep are the priority, in whichever order. If you can't eat/drink, go sleep but have something handy. If you can't sleep, lay down at least. 6 hours is still early to recommend things like active recovery. There's not much in that phase that you could do 'wrong' - like of course don't go run intervals...but I doubt you'll feel like that. I would advise against cold this early. Massage is fine. Stretches are fine. But mostly - sleep. You've earned it!

@alexshraib

2 күн бұрын

@@runningwithsimon Thanks, it is Swiss Peaks 170km + 12,000 meters of elevation gain

@runningwithsimon

2 күн бұрын

@@alexshraib Oh cool! Is it happening at the same time as Swiss 360? I was going to race it this year (was like 1-2 days from signing up - was just confirming vacation days) when I got pulled from tor des geants waitlist. Might do it in 2025. Let me know how it goes! ps: and profile sounds like Ouray actually. Ouray was ~164km with ~13,000m. So steep, even on downhills I had to walk sometimes! Have fun !

@alexshraib

2 күн бұрын

@@runningwithsimon Swiss Peaks 360 km starts a couple of days earlier and the last 170 km are the same for both races. If I will manage to finish the 170 km race this year, I will do the 360 km race in 2025.

@alexshraib

2 күн бұрын

@@runningwithsimon good luck with TOR! Which distance? 330 km?

Hello Simon, I just started my running/OCR journey, this year. Although, I am not up to your level, I have a question. I have been doing fine with the cramps, eating bananas, mustard etc., my question is, how do you handle achilles cramps/strains after running?

@runningwithsimon

3 күн бұрын

You need to work on calves exercises. When it's inflamed, I try to reduce volume. I'll ice if really bad. During a race if it's bad, then it's often worse on the uphill. Walking kinda side ways help a little. But long term is definitely about strengthen your calves.

@hholguin7578

3 күн бұрын

@@runningwithsimon Thank you very much Simon, I will definitely work on that. Also, based on yours and a couple of other runners suggestion to try the Hoka Speedgoat 5's as achilles pain was less than, I gave them a try (having run in Brooks) they are working out. Great content sir!

I just run a Spartan Ultra, 2 weeks ago. Not the same level at all, I get soooo hungry the next following days, I am non-stop eating after for days, and can gain up to 6lbs

@runningwithsimon

3 күн бұрын

Congrats!! It's crazy, right?! I try to indulge at first - it's needed. But eventually force myself back to normal.

@jonathanbouchard12426

3 күн бұрын

@runningwithsimon great tips, love your videos, and your an inspiration ! Keep up the great work !