Amazingly, the artifact system is worse than the gacha.

@VoidEnigma

12 күн бұрын

Agreed... I made this video about it here 🤣: kzread.info/dash/bejne/oIJ7qbGJc7CofLw.htmlsi=iUKyqPxDe_0hZp8W

@seagl4ss

12 күн бұрын

honestly more forgivable because you can have off set pieces, and it only takes 3 to fodder into 1 new strongbox artifacts compared to hsr requiring 10 for foddering and needing complete pieces on 2 sets

@yosefsts7977

12 күн бұрын

​@@seagl4ss until u spend 30 fodder into strongbox and get 5 flower 5 feather when u need goblet, or when u got 10 goblet and none of them has correct elemental main stat, and full set looks better visually for me so im REALLY annoyed on getting 5 set on genshin.

@Lofarzel31

12 күн бұрын

@@seagl4ss Don't forget more substats like SPD, Effect RES, etc.

@zzzzzygaming

12 күн бұрын

​Yeah!! HSRs 10:1 is disgusting 😂

100% agree! And yeah it's funny how the two problems are: 1.Make 50/50 carry over 2.ACTUALLY HAVE THE BANNER EXIST

@huyphamle159

12 күн бұрын

3.Don't have enough freemos for these banners 4.Weapon banner is still expensive to pull though

@BadassHatdog

12 күн бұрын

​​@@huyphamle159 the weapon banner is actually 90 pulls less than the og the chronicled wish already gives you a chance to lose to eula's, tighnari's and dehya's limited-time BiS weapon which is already a bonus the only thing that could make chronicled wish work is if it were to be leaked prior to its release so people could save up.. imagine an inazuman chronicled wish, literally nobody is a standard character the og weapon banner requires 90 x 3 = 270 pulls to guarantee while the chronicled wish weapon banner only requires 180 pulls just like the limited-character banners

@randyrandom3358

12 күн бұрын

​@@huyphamle159 It's the better weapon banner though

@huyphamle159

12 күн бұрын

@@randyrandom3358 nah I prefer losing 75/25 and carry my pity over

@randyrandom3358

12 күн бұрын

@@huyphamle159 You just need to save 160 pulls for it to guarantee and get the specific weapon you want, which is better considering the actual weapon banner needs around 240. Do correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the actual weapon banner doesn't also save or carry pity over?

The thing is. I thought the banner was permanent. So when it vanished i was shocked.

@jahircartagena8106

12 күн бұрын

I thought that at least would last the entire version

@dan9563

10 күн бұрын

This is mihoyo without honkai in its title what do you expect

@TheConvexDR

5 күн бұрын

I mean, mihoyo themselves said that it will go away and come back whenever they feel like it lol

@WarsunGames

4 күн бұрын

@@TheConvexDR Naw. I think i`m done. I just uninstalled the game. Spent the whole month an about 80 bucks trying to get Segwine and failed. So Yeah i`m done. I have a whole constalation Noelle and even then it keeps giving me Noelles and i just won a 5 star which means rolling back they gave me my first duluke in 1 year. Yeah i think this is a good spot to stop. Over 80 rolls an still no 5 stars from the banner. Not 1. Yeah i think i`m completely done. They need to fix the game. No one has time for that. I could have just bought the character for 10 to 20 bucks. An saved money.

@TheConvexDR

4 күн бұрын

@@WarsunGames That's fine, I hope you find a good game for your needs.

Let's be real they only added it because they didn't want to rerun Klee, Albedo and Eula, and Baizhu only got two reruns despite coming out less than a year prior so they can put him in the Liyue one. This banner only exists so normal banner slots can be kept for characters that sell well, not for the player's benefit. I'm normally not very critical of Hoyo but this is just such an obvious farce.

@magekazin

12 күн бұрын

I believe they truly meant to continue this as a way to rotate character reruns faster. But what happened it wasn't perfect and the community does what it always does and goes on their genshin sucks rants, they don't listen to us and so on. And the pulls were probably low and with the hate they got, they scraped it.

@ChangeOfHearts39

12 күн бұрын

Wuwa

@realwermos

12 күн бұрын

​@magekazin you should know by now that hyv doesn't care about it's Genshin fan base. They'll rerun it again when the cash flow is tight.

@Twag7

12 күн бұрын

@@magekazin I like to think that about most things in this game, but the chronicled wish is so obviously not intended to help generate income. It's specifically to rerun characters who rake in less money. Granted, not many Mondstadt 5 stars are especially strong and so far we have only had a Mondstadt chronicled wish, but it's glaringly obvious that they simply didn't want Klee, Eula and Albedo to get reran since it steals a spot away from someone more popular who is more likely to earn them money. Likewise, Baizhu was rerun twice despite being out for a year so they don't have to put Yelan or Hu Tao on the Liyue banner, notice how Yelan is getting a banner in 4.8 when she would have fit the criteria for a Liyue chronicled wish perfectly. Likewise, if it was for the player's benefit, why hasn't there been another since? They are waiting for more worse/less popular 5 stars to be out of rotation for a while to put them in instead of ones who people will be pressured into pulling for.

@DarkButterflyChikage

12 күн бұрын

Wuwa nation 🎉

I wish they added a 3rd regular limited time banner instead of just two.

@Twag7

12 күн бұрын

This would make the weapon banner kind of awkward to make. In my opinion, the best thing they could do is occasionally have 3 banner phases per version, like they did in 1.3 where each banner lasted 2 weeks rather than 3.

@Pingu2010

12 күн бұрын

@@Twag7 One way I could see 3 concurrent banners working is if they did away with the way the weapon banner work, and just have disctinct weapon banners with a 50:50 for each signature weaopn (well, ideally there'd be no 50:50 like WuWa, but eh).

@idminister

12 күн бұрын

@@Twag7 just do like HSR....split the weapon banner; like it always shouldve been

@r.d.6290

12 күн бұрын

@@Twag7 Make 3 weapon banners? Get rid of these stupid crutch solution to the "Staff of Homeless Incident" which the epitomized path is, maybe?

@chickensauna

10 күн бұрын

Wuwa weapon banner though 👍

Slight correction: Pity does carry over but not the guarantee

@voshadxgathic

9 күн бұрын

It's specifically the fate point that doesn't carry over. Which we already have practice with on the weapon banner. It's a small, but important distinction to say fate point instead of guarantee, because saying guarantee implies it's akin to the limited character banners, which it's not.

@sakaom

9 күн бұрын

PITY CARRY OVER??? LETS GOOOOO I HAD 78 PITY ON THAT DAMN MONDSDADT BANNER 😭😭😭

@TechTalk0069

8 күн бұрын

Yes. pity carry over​@@sakaom

@tovarishcheleonora8542

7 күн бұрын

@@voshadxgathic But it's still not a problem. People are just too dramatic. Afterall, you just have to save-up enough pulls to make sure that you get the character even if you happen to lose the 50/50.

@Blue---Kit-n3i

6 күн бұрын

Is this a satire comment? By any chance?

It was pointed out at the time, idk by who, that Hoyo was being intentionally vague about how often the chronicled wish banner would run. - and when Hoyo is intentionally vague about something, its because you wouldnt like the truth. It seems that the truth is probably that they intend to hold back the chronicled wish banner until moments of optimal profit, which they could control and predict for players engaging in multiple Hoyo titles 10/10 for calling out Hoyo for milking Genshin only to fund their other projects. If they reinvested even a fraction of that money back into Genshin, Wuwa would have never had a chance.

@ChangeOfHearts39

12 күн бұрын

Wuwa

@Wuhaboo

12 күн бұрын

Ikr justice for genshin no more genshin could never it's hoyo fault, the game and the players deserve better

@numaruldoi3031

12 күн бұрын

What has wuwa to do with this? And second, you speak as if people dont play more that one game at the time...

@cqwiii

12 күн бұрын

How can I speak as if people only play one game at a time when I specifically mentioned Hoyo's ability to maximize banners for profit when players are playing mutiple Hoyo titles? What Wuwa has to do with this is that it is a Genshin clone that was able to sprout and thrive specifically because Hoyo has been so stagnant and lazy with Genshin. If Hoyo had cared to support Genshin beyond the bare minimum required for maximum profit, nobody would have looked twice as Wuwa- just as World of Warcraft murdered nearly every MMO that came up during its prime because nobody in the MMO market wanted another game.

@Wuhaboo

12 күн бұрын

@@cqwiii true

I hate Chronicled Wish for what it could have been. Like they could have rerun it every patch with different characters. Also imagine they let it share pity with the limited banner. Hoyo does this shit so often, they have a good idea and then fuck it over.

@SwieczkaNiweaniewierzeDarek

12 күн бұрын

Sharing pity with the Limited banner wouldn't be profitable for them at all, but they should've made it a permanent thing, refreshing once every version with 3 older limited 5 stars.

@BladeSerph

12 күн бұрын

Luuuuurking~ Funfacts: -Punishing Gray raven has ALL its A-ranks on a perma selector, same with weapons and Uns and Cubs, so they never need to do rerun banners for those. -Punishing Gray raven also throws ALL units into its standard banner, so you can technically pull for any character with them periodicially doing `selector` re-runs, usually in the latter half of a version which usually has multiple S-ranks you can pick between to be the Rate up choice (though it tends to be a 70% rate up, its still better then Mihoyo`s retarded 50/50 they decided todo for not only Gen-stingie but also Zen-lazy). Gee, its almost like they could easily create a MEANS of archiving older units by simply creating a special `selector` for older units so people can simply choose say a, `enhanced` rate up higher then 50/50 and let people burn pulls (probably specifically standard ones mostly) so they can waste pulls on older units and just leave the special ones like Archons, Fatui harbingers and super popular ones like Kazuha as part of the rerun crowd.~~~ Moral of the story: As the CC put it: Mihoyo is just greedy as fk. Since they just straight up sabotage thar own titles in the sake of wanting to thirst for more profit, without understanding how you actually coax people into spending, by impressing, not terrorizing. Anyway back flip to P:GR Enjoyment.~ Next week we get a FREE S-rank Physical amplifier with a FREE special effects coating, with a NEW weapon harmonization system we can farm for FREE to make many characters alot better WITHOUT, needing to spend much on pulls this patch, unless desperation for the weapon and Pet (CUB) kicks in REALLY hard.~

@sharktos3218

11 күн бұрын

Sorry to phrase it that way, but are you stupid? You do realize what you described is just "Add 3-6 more limited 5* banners", right? Just that you could lose to another 5* instead of C5 Qiqi. You really didn't think this through, mate.

@cybremystica93

10 күн бұрын

@@SwieczkaNiweaniewierzeDarekyes….please. I would love this

@firewolflycan

9 күн бұрын

They also made only Hunter path and beacon be on there

If they added 2 or 3 more Permanent Rotating Banners: Regional Banner (Characters of one same Region appear), Elemental Banner (Characters of one shared element appear), Special Choose your own Banner (Players can pick 5 of their favorite characters to appear on one banner to wish from). They would make insane amounts of money with this move.

@boo_taoediting

12 күн бұрын

That’s such a good idea

@Raggedy_Aniimator

12 күн бұрын

OMG! That is such a good idea!!

@browserjunior4707

12 күн бұрын

The fact that Fire Emblem Heroes does this and no one ever complained is so funny cause like it’s such a simple fix to a long-standing gacha problem of FOMO being more and more strict and time gated. They have weekly banners, banners for events, polls for the top 10 heroes released in the current version as well as the bottom 10 released. And they also jack up the rates for special banners like when they do Legendary or Mythic banners where everyone gets a flat 6% 5* chance. Stuff like that gives whales and F2P more reason to pull cause you can either make your weak characters stronger by borrowing skills from the stronger units or just by having the stronger units be maxed out completely cause of the increased rate drop.

@kaku7398

10 күн бұрын

Really sounds like what Guardian Tales did in the "recent" updates, are you perhaps a guardian as well ? :D Because honestly that's such a banger idea

@SHAdow98V

9 күн бұрын

Good ideas, the choose your own banner thing i doubt would've worked unless you c9uld only choose the shit characters, cuz if you could make your banner from all characters then everyone would just choose the meta ones like archons and Neuvilette or Arlecchino and such.

As someone who couldnt pull Shenhe in 3.5 due to other priorities but vowed to do so in her next rerun, its been extremely frustrating having everything prefarmed (artifacts included) only for it to gather dust. The whole 5* and 4* reruns fiasco has been atrocious scummy.

@ruy7164

12 күн бұрын

She is probably going to rerun on 5.0

@dinispedroso8151

12 күн бұрын

@@ruy7164 shes been "probably reruning next patch" for the past 7 patches. Do not just brushed it off like its a none issue.

@ChangeOfHearts39

12 күн бұрын

Wuwa.

@Wuhaboo

12 күн бұрын

Nop evey 0.0 is archons then their subordinates so...​@@ruy7164

@SwieczkaNiweaniewierzeDarek

12 күн бұрын

​@@ruy7164 Nah, Wriothesley is probably going to rerun instead

Shenhe wanter: It been 84 years....

@valentinjesus6213

12 күн бұрын

Primordial jade cutter wanter: I'm the grand grand son of my grand grand dad and it's been 274 years...

@sagittaronapricot5839

11 күн бұрын

I got Shenhe on her recent rerun after waiting for what felt like 100 years, and Albedo on the Chronicled Wish after 1000 years (he even brought the enigmatic Eula, who's known for having a rerun once every Amber Era with him). Don't stop waiting guys, patience will compensate you! We have always had enough time - Abyss Sibling.

@valentinjesus6213

11 күн бұрын

@@sagittaronapricot5839 waiting until we all die cuz it looks PJC is not gonna get a rerun in our lifetime.

@enviousdragon9109

11 күн бұрын

I've been waiting for her rerun and I'm losing hope. Let my queen out of the basement!

@valentinjesus6213

11 күн бұрын

@@enviousdragon9109 tell her to blink twice if she's being kept a hostage

the chronically would have been PERFECT if the 50/50 guarantee CARRIED OVER. the weapon banner too, just make encounter points carry over. sure players who’ve used the system will be sad they already wished, but even they want it to change. even without compensation everyone just wants it to change.

The simps who say that they have no choice, they have to make money forget that games do not have a right to exist. If you put out a crap product, and then screw over your players you don’t deserve anything.

@DiamentowaSzklanka

12 күн бұрын

Bruh they don't realise how much money hoyo actually makes from genshin alone 💀💀 you could assume the servers cost a lot to run but certainly not like a million dollars a month?

@AratakiBullPowerSiddo1

11 күн бұрын

Thats such a dumb take. If games have no right to exist then no form of entertainment media like movies, songs, etc. doesn't either Nobody saying that Mihoyo didn't mess up but condemning the entire gaming media in general's too much.

@BulletSponge71436

9 күн бұрын

@@AratakiBullPowerSiddo1 I'm pretty sure you misunderstood OP's comment.

I don’t see why they don’t have the new banner more often, even filler patches. They obviously don’t want to rerun old characters like albedo, Eula, and Klee anymore and this banner gave them an option for, I’m not sure if they don’t do it again because Liyue has some really good characters that fit the criteria like Hu Tao, yelen , ganyu, etc. shenhe ironically doesn’t qualify because she hasn’t had enough reruns. But with the unknown time frame makes me think this is just the Mondstadt banner that they will run once a year just to say the characters got a rerun. It’s really too bad they don’t at least carry over guarentee on that banner since they make you wait who know how’s long for it to come back

The Chronicled banner was a godsent for me. Finally managed to get Wolf's Gravestone and Song of Broken Pines. And if I had more wishes I would've gone for Skyward Blade. A Liyue version would be amazing too but Hoyo works in mysterious ways. 🤷‍♂

@valentinjesus6213

12 күн бұрын

No, they look at the feedback and do the opposite.

@whyistheskyyellow8681

4 күн бұрын

Fr, i finally pulled wolfs gravestone and hunter's path during the chronicled wish, and i was looking forward to the liyue one to get xiao's spear ... 🥲

@nobody-xh6ii

3 сағат бұрын

I actually got eula's signature while pulling for hunters path and still got hunter after. So freminet ended up with a new shiny toy which was a win for me.~

It got eated by the cats

@Otherface

12 күн бұрын

Amazing 😀👍

@Neahmon

12 күн бұрын

Ragna pfp spotted, based.

@recentmap7268

12 күн бұрын

You mean eaten

@angel_0132

7 күн бұрын

​@@recentmap7268 no. eated

Hoyo shoot themselves on the foot by not rerunning characters on a regular basis forcing new players to buy account in order to play their favorite character. It is a joke. Their low sales in recent banners is well deserved. There is no reason they can't put up more banners to match the character pool so that new players don't have to wait for more than 9 months to pull for x.

@EvanM-ko8ym

12 күн бұрын

Whenever someone says they want to play genshin I tell them not to do it, but if they insist, I tell them to buy a genshin account with their favorite character. It is the best way to get the character you want. I got an alternate account with raiden shogun + signature w/ random 5* and 300+ farmed wishes for a measly $20. There's an entire site dedicated to buying accounts and its a godsend.

@sleeppss

12 күн бұрын

Low sales? Still being top 3 best selling is far from low sales tho Genshin would need to drop down to atleast 10M a month for hoyo to even care. Yet we barely step down from 30M

@PCVP4729

10 күн бұрын

@@EvanM-ko8ymmind naming the website? And how long have you had this account to be sure of its legitimacy?

@swilleh_

16 сағат бұрын

@@PCVP4729 i got my Diluc for 1$ back then on "5mmo". Also bought R6 Points a few times on their site.

@swilleh_

16 сағат бұрын

@@EvanM-ko8ym tbh missing the early game would be awful for some people like me because of missed lore. I bought my Diluc after like AR30~ and i think i would've done the same today.

I want Ganyu, so I felt personally attacked during this example.

@steffy23456

12 күн бұрын

If you like her design, personality and like her playstyle, I suggest you do it. She's flexible with supports and even if you don't want to main the left click, she makes for a decent burst dps. She's also fairly easy to build, since her selection of bows is rather large and she has a crit damage ascension stat. I hope you get her. - a Ganyu main

@ChrisX_212

12 күн бұрын

Ganyu should've been eligible in Blue Wish, like Keqing and Qiqi. Her weapon is just an Amos Bow. It doesn't make sense why Ganyu is limited, but her weapon isn't. That said, yeah, I played this game at 4.0, hoping for Ganyu and she NEVER APPEARED ever since. Not even in Lantern Rite, when others say it's the best time if I wanted Ganyu (LIARS!). So you can imagine how pissed I am. But unlike a lot of people who pulled their support from Hoyo out of frustration... Sorry, but I have way lot more endurance than those guys. It'd take more than that for me to scorn a company.

@Skye_4

12 күн бұрын

I got Ganyu on her last rerun but was never successful to get her bow even on standart banner🥲

@valentinjesus6213

12 күн бұрын

Hoyoverse: Let's make skins for ganyu and shenhe but let the players wait a year if they didn't get the character.

@ChrisX_212

12 күн бұрын

@@valentinjesus6213 Also Hoyoverse: Let's make skin for Nilou and make her available RIGHT AT THAT MOMENT!

it’s so frustrating since i wasn’t able to get shenhe either times, i’ve been waiting for her forever now.

@thesparklegirl3236

12 күн бұрын

Same

@valentinjesus6213

12 күн бұрын

Primordial jade cutter: first time? And no.. PJC is not in standard wish

people keep parroting that gacha is inherently predatory, but it seems the meaning of that is lost on many. you feel manipulated because you ARE being manipulated. they're literally baiting you and, in cases like the chronicled banner, outright trying to scam you out of your money. i'm not saying this with any judgement, to be clear. i've also spent money on this game, and probably will do it again in the future. even if the idea itself is good, hoyo knew what they were doing by introducing this banner. if they'd announced it as once per year/anniversary banner, they might've avoided some shit they got. but they obviously don't care at all about it to begin with. hoyo doesn't deserve your energy like this. take a break, rethink your expenses. go browse some fanart. 9 out of 10 times you'll find your character being treated better than in game, AND you won't waste money on a greedy company.

@valentinjesus6213

12 күн бұрын

Just don't spent any more money on this company hoyoverse until they listen... They never listen to the players...

@SorarikoMotone

12 күн бұрын

@@valentinjesus6213 its not always bad that they dont - especially in this case.

I think stupidest part about Chronicled is that you have to use Intertwined Fates. Unless you’re skipping or a whale, you will not have enough for a character, their weapon, and then Chronicled on top of that.

@TheStrongestBaka

12 күн бұрын

Skipping should be the norm.

@sleeppss

12 күн бұрын

Yeah its pretty scummy how we get more and more banners but the pulls are basically the same every year

@SorarikoMotone

12 күн бұрын

@@sleeppss i mean, thats how it is with all gacha games. it either banner bloat or more banners. you have to learn to choose what to pull if you're unable to whale, thats how they make one into a whale. there's a reason gacha games are games of resource management for f2p's. its a bigger issue in other games, however, because of powercreep. you will NEVER get everything you want, unless you manage your expectations - thats kind of a point.

@lolwarrior2181

11 күн бұрын

@@SorarikoMotone Except not really Other than FGO, Genshin has easily the worst FOMO out there for gacha games. There would be less demand for something like chronicled banner if the amount of FOMO didn't reach this level. In Genshin, 99% of 5* are limited, meaning you cannot get them outside of a specific timeslot. So no more getting spooked or offbanner like other games which lessen the FOMO. If your favorite character is eula or albedo, enjoy waiting for a year or two until you're be able to pull for them. Also this affects 4*, like kaveh Not only that, but the premium resource gain is awfully stingy. You don't even have enough pulls each patch to hit soft pity, let alone the hard 90. Taking account the 50/50 into account, you'll probably need to stockpile 2.5-3 patches just to be able to guaranteed someone that you want as an F2P. And don't even hope getting your hopes up with weapon banner as now you need 3 rotations (albeit with 10 less pity for each rotation totalling to 240 pulls max). That alone is ~4 patches just to guarantee. If you want to guarantee someone + their sig, you pretty much need to save up 3/4 of the entire year of events (6-7 patches or 9-10 months). And there's like what? 8-10 5* chara in a year? Also this doesn't take into account if you want to c6 a non-launch 4* because good luck getting them without pity or buyable in the shop.

@BulletSponge71436

9 күн бұрын

@@TheStrongestBaka Generosity should be the norm.

I was skeptical of the chronicle wish banner when it was announced but thought it might be good for players who really wanted a character or weapon… then it lasted only half a patch. That just screws people over and forces them to spend money because who knows when those characters will be available again

I think I'm also fully switching to F2P after the battle pass runs out. My breaking point's Chlorinde's weapon banner. Weapon banner's fkd me over too many times. 180 wishes on characters at least carry over. Weapon banners I lose 2x so many times in the 1yr I've been playing for just a 20% more damage.

@valentinjesus6213

12 күн бұрын

Don't support hoyoverse they don't listen to the players. I love genshin but ugh i'm fed up...

@xChaosFlower

6 күн бұрын

Don't bother with the weapon banners. There are plenty of options for weapons than character's signature weapons

One thing to point out is that if i remember correctly the pity DOES carry over but there is no 50/50 but we cant even be sure about that since it never appeared again Btw i wanted dehya weapon so bad that i pulled but got wolfs gravestone and i regret it so much so yea i think its just better to think of it as a better weapon banner 💀

the 2 requirements they proposed for a char to be selectable for the chronicle banner also sorta walked the banner into a corner from the get go. not only it was "need to have been run at least 3 times" but also "must not have been rerun recently", and this second requirement is super vague cuz how do u determine what "recently" count as. (n im guiding myself by the livestream wording, since the faq post has no mention of either of these requirements) at the time when chronicle banner happened, klee n eula were on a 5 patches long gap since their last rerun, while it was even longer for albedo. if we then use this info to assume that "recently" = "five patches or longer", at the time the chronicle banner was released, there was very few characters that fulfill BOTH conditions, even if we assume, that 3 out of 6 slots would be filled by standar chars instead of limited ones. now, i dont remember at the top of my head WHICH chars fulfilled these 2 conditions aside of the 3 that were on chronicle banner 1. im fairly certain kokomi was there n ganyu... im not 100% sure about ganyu. anyone curious can go and check. the point is, there was very few chars that could go to the chronicle banner to begin with. if we add to that, the "has to be from the same region" (which, btw, this was never mentioned as a requirement, at least as far as i remember), then that banner was bound to not be a "once every patch" kind of deal. they have just too few chars that fulfill all the conditions. as a foot note, i do think this is the reason why they hurried so much to have baizhu reruns so close to one another (4 patches from one another), healers r usually one of the least grosing banners and next time a chronicle banner happens, the snake doctor can directly be thrown in there.

@amandaslough125

12 күн бұрын

A Liyue banner would have Keqing and Qiqi for standard units. Then could be filled up with Hutao, Ganyu, Childe easily. And now Baizhu and Yelan eventually.

@ThePenguinsKing

11 күн бұрын

Yelan is in 4.8 as was announced in the livestream. If we go by order of release it means either the chronicle wish banner will release in 5.4 or that yelan wont be in it

@joycewhoelse

2 күн бұрын

@@amandaslough125 i dont think childe would be on it since he's not from liyue nor would hu tao be on it bc hu tao is one of their more better selling banners plus i think childe would get a rerun in early natlan times since he usually appears around that time anyways

Nikke made me drop Genshin. To put into perspective, I've been playing Nikke since May, and while I have put in just two hundred or so into the game, I'm already at 100 Special Recruit tickets and just under 70,000 gems. Only about 1000 or so of those gems are paid, the rest...free. Granted, while the game NEEDS you to have 3 copies of 5 different characters to break the level 160 barrier, it facilitates this by letting you roll A LOT and often. From Social Points alone, which you just get via having friends on your friends list, I'm doing at least a low rate 10 pull every week. It definitely feels a lot more generous, and unless the character is seasonal or a collab, they go right into the standard banner after the initial banner phase. I mean gacha is gacha and it'll always be predatory, but at least Nikke allows a player to have a pulling endorphin rush often and all the time. There's even a Wishlist on the Standard banner where you select 15 different Nikkes...5 from 3 of the Manufacturers, and when you roll an SSR(or 5* for you Genshin players), it'll always be from either the Pilgrim group or one of the 15 from your Wishlist. It boggles my mind to think that Genshin is still so stingy years down the line.

My most hated part is why not run it for the whole patch, then the pity is an issues but I'm so used to that.

I remeber in the last survey there was even a question that asks about your salary. How lame!

I met a newer player, who had 4 standard banner 5-star characters, but only one limited one. I asked how is that even possible. She told me she lost on the limited *AND* chronicled wish banner…. The rest is history…. 😅

Man this hit me like a truck. I joined to pull for Furina and I was considering buying the primogems to get her since her banners ending pretty soon, and I already feel bored of Genshin. My desire to even get her has died which is pretty sad for me. Hoyoverse, why?

@ChangeOfHearts39

12 күн бұрын

Wuwa

@valentinjesus6213

12 күн бұрын

Don't support hoyoverse they don't listen to the players. I love genshin but ugh i'm fed up...

@SorarikoMotone

12 күн бұрын

@@valentinjesus6213 they do listen - just not to the tiny minority of players that think they're the majority.

@Melotaku

11 күн бұрын

@@SorarikoMotoneTHIS 🙏

@BulletSponge71436

9 күн бұрын

@@SorarikoMotone Absolute cringe and not true. The fact that you're against the things that would *only benefit everyone* is crazy to many. Absolutely crazy.

I started on second phase of 4.2. I was very interested in Genshin's lore and characters. When I first saw Shenhe I said "damn this is my favorite character design til now. I wonder how is her character and gameplay" and I'm still waiting for her rerun. I'm so tired of saving for her. I skipped so many good characters for her. I always have to think like "I can't spend all I have, I have to save this amount of pulls for Shenhe". Man screw this. Why Yelan gets 2 reruns in 4.0 and 4.8, why Baizhu gets 2 reruns on 4.2 and 4.6 but I have to wait for Shenhe? Yelan sells so much okay but Baizhu don't. That's not an argument. Even if we say it is, do I have to like and play only the characters who has high sale numbers? What's the point of adding so many characters then? I find this sooo st*pid and I believe some higher people on Hoyo are just ignorant of how gaming works.

DAMN IT I’VE BEEN SAVING FOR SHENHE!!!😭😭😭😭😭

@thesparklegirl3236

12 күн бұрын

Same

the greed of cai haoyu knows no bounds 😒 thank you for making this video to resolidify why I never wanna spend money on this company again. also when she he's banner finally releases after 2 years, people are more likely to spend $$$ for her since they won't know when she comes back 😒

@xeniver1

12 күн бұрын

I don't think Hoyo will ever win back my admiration and respect for how they handle Genshin, VoidEnigma framed it perfectly everytime i play the game i just feel manipulated, i'll never spend any money on Hoyo games again.

@Niddy_Gritty

12 күн бұрын

Why the heck is he so greedy and stingy

@SorarikoMotone

12 күн бұрын

please stop spreading misinfo about Cai Haoyu HE IS A TECH GUY he did nothign but work in pre-release of the game. he left the game after release, much like with hi3 (david was in control when that game was stingy, aka since both cn and global releases). this is an open info you can learn if you actually follow interviews with the company. in fact - after genshin's release, he was working on a shooter game within the company.

@SorarikoMotone

12 күн бұрын

@@xeniver1 ....welcome to gacha games? lol

@Niddy_Gritty

12 күн бұрын

@SorarikoMotone "Uh sure" After he left HI3 things got WAY BETTER and everyone who plays HI3 knows that as a fact

i feel the fact that each update gets less content to 100%. i mean, what was that dainsleif archon quest? it felt so rushed and i was done with it within 2 hours without skipping the dialogues. i loved genshin so much but now its just so unsatisfying and im sad that im so unmotivated to play this game. same with hsr sadly. im too unmotivated to even run this game and play the story because im still kinda frustrated about the fact hoyo literally forced me to build imaginary trailblazer in order to kill the grand theatre boss the chronical wish banner was a nice idea for sure i finally got tighnaris bow and albedo but its a shame they dont continue with it. the upcoming characters are pretty boring to me, i was hyped for columbina but since shes gonna be cryo im not even sure if i should waste my primos on her (i whine about it alot but i dont care, i love columbina and i cannot accept her being any other element than anemo) and i would just love to have ganyu, zhongli or hu tao in my collection. but maybe they will do the chronical wish banner every x.5 patch?

@aintailstweentales7964

4 күн бұрын

...... You do know you can use the free pre-build imaginary MC for the theatre boss in the story right? You don't actually need to build your harmony mc you just need to unlock it, are players just blind and didn't see it in the characters list?

@RoseCookiASMR

4 күн бұрын

@@aintailstweentales7964 i mean to farm the mats. i alrerady beat the story long time ago but its a pain to kill since my none of my imaginary characters use break effect, and the only break effect dps i have is boothill but the boss doesnt have a physical weakness, and the second phase is just pain because of that shieldwhich im too dumb to break quickly enough and urgh its just annoying,. the third phase is pretty cool tho and no none of the people i could get a support character from chose the imaginary trailblazer as a support character

Yeah, the banner was pretty disappointing compared to what it could have been. At the very least, we did get access to Dehya's and Tighnari's weapons. Cinnabar Spindle is still completely unachievable for new accounts (including mine) as well as Robin and Silver wolf's LCs.

Instead of only 3 weeks but not long as the whole patch, just make it on the monthly reset timer when the shop refreshes.

man i wasted 40 pulls in that shit

@ThePenguinsKing

11 күн бұрын

Then you have 40 pity when it comes back

@sakaom

9 күн бұрын

wasted 76, lost my 50/50, had like 78 pity and didn't get my damn bow 😭 at least the lost 50/50 was a good weapon

At this point we need a third or even fourth character event wish banner

They can adopt the expa foca system from hi3 where banners only run for 3 days separate from the current event banner but shares pity it allows for much faster rotation and if anyone think 3 days isn't enough that banner is for people who were waiting for a whole year for that character they surely have enough pulls

Hoyoverse realized the BIG boo-boo when they thought what the Inazuma Chronicled Wish would look like - even if Raiden was not on it - the sheer value of getting ANY Inazuma 5* was TOO good for the players - not to mention the weapons too !! (Haran, Mistsplitter and even Redstone - i would happily take any of those !) i predict they will combine BOTH Liyue and Inazuma and then put the least popular ones on it.

@a-non6238

6 күн бұрын

Considering Inazuma has no standards they might actually end up doing that. Would help sabo the weapon pool potentially with the shield required Liyue series too. Or I could also see them merging Inazuma with Fontaine which also has no standards but that seems even more far off.

@binsarm9026

6 күн бұрын

@@a-non6238 they will probably combine Fontaine with Sumeru - although Sumeru is probably as "bad" as Mondstadt and can get it's own Chronicled banner whereas Fontaine is even MORE stacked than Inazuma !! :D

The simplest way to solve this problem is to put the old characters in the standard pool like any other gacha game did before them. This also has a side effect of improving the quality of the limited banner since the 50/50 looses are not so bad anymore since you could get a character that was not in the standard banner before

been playing for years and finally got a lost prayer book.....on my alt!!!!!! just let me get the frigging weapons jerkksss. never even seen a gravestone lol

Having the banner be predictable and pity carry over really is the one fix that matters. Hoyoverse just needs to do that tbh.

When they introduced the Chronicled Wish banner my only problem with it was that a guaranteed didn't stay until the next banner. Like why would they ever think using the fate point system would a good idea, the mechanic that makes people call the weapon banner a scam. I thought we would get a new chronicled wish every other version, maybe every third version, probably some sort of Liyue version since the first one was Mondstadt. I looked at the Liyue 5 stars to theorize who would be on a Liyue Chronicled wish. Obviously Qiqi and Keqing would be there, and probably also Xiao, and Ganyu, and after that I really didn't know who could be there. I didn't think they would put archons on it, so I ruled out Zhongli. Childe released in 1.1 and was pretty involved in the Liyue story, so maybe he could be there. Hu Tao could be there, but from my understanding she still sells pretty well so I didn't think she would be on it. Same goes for Yelan, maybe even moreso than Hu Tao. Then I thought Shenhe since even though she still only had 1 rerun, she could get one with Wriothesley in 4.6 and then be on Chronicled wish in 4.8, but that didnt happen. Now its looking like they are just putting Baizhu on banners so they can put him on a Liyue Chronicled wish. So I thought that they would just skip Liyue and go straight to Inazuma. Without Raiden that could have been done with Ayaka, Yoimiya, Ayato, Kokomi, Yae, Itto. But with Baizhu getting his 2nd rerun in 4.6 now I think that they are giving us a Liyue Banner again and are just waiting for it to "have been long enough" for Baizhu to be on a Chronicled wish banner. I honestly wish they could bring back the Chronicled wish and just make it something that happens from time to time, just so we can avoid situations like this, where 3 5-stars have been completely unavailable during all of version 4, and 2 of them even got skins in 4.4. I obviously want them to fix the fate point system, and just let the fate points carry over, because the only reason why they don't is to incentivize spending so you don't lose your fate point and therefore your chance at getting the character you want. I have been playing since 1.0 with some breaks here and there, so I already have several limited 5-stars that I rarely use, so at this point I just want constellations for my favorites. Im a Ganyu main, and it has been more than a year since the last time I had the chance.

@Axterix13

9 күн бұрын

The problem with the weapon banner isn't the fate point system, though. It's that it requires two fate points, meaning you'd often have to go to the full 240. Of course, not an ideal system. A better company/team would have solved the issue by having the banner give us a box instead of the featured weapon(s), and we could open it and pick either weapon. This solution would mean no need for fate points, 160 wishes max to get the weapon of your choice, the weapon banner wouldn't be instantly ultra-garbage the moment an overly niche weapon you have no use for is the other featured weapon, and would only be reliant on the normal pity, so would carry over across banners. The reason why they went with the fate point mechanic, though, is simple. It let them re-use existing code that supported having multiple featured things, while having a 50/50 system of sorts in place.

@OsaZen992

9 күн бұрын

@@Axterix13 The reason why I say the fate point system is the reason why the weapon banner is a scam is that it doesn't carry over. It would absolutely be better if it was just down to the 75/25 and if you win you get a box to choose between the weapons like you said. But it would be way better than it is now if fate points didn't get removed with every banner or when you switch your target. Right now if you will have any less than 210 pulls, it is really risky to pull on the weapon banner unless you want both 5 stars. If fate points could carry over, then pulling for weapons would immediately be way less risky because you would at least be able to guarantee getting what you want at some point, even if you dont have 210 pulls saved up for one banner. And I 100% agree that they chose to use fate points because it would require less effort to make.

Wuwa doesn't kill genshin,it was genshin that killed itself

I agree with ya video I've been playing a lil over a year and I'am still waiting on Shenhe and Ganyu ☠

When in the middle of Sumeru ( like 3.4 or 3.5 i dont remember) there were discussions about 3 Character banner. Now, its a must

The Chronicled Wish banner has some issues, but the biggest issue really is that it isn’t even rerunning TwT Why does it take them so long to run a second one?

Most likely, it bombed because of the timing. Two of the three most-wanted characters in the game were rerunning at the same time, the very next banner cycle. Nobody who didn't already have both Kazuha and Neuvillette was spending one thin primo on the CW, and that's without even taking into account the issues pointed out in the video that pissed tons of people off. IMO, a better solution to the "too many event 5-stars, not enough banner slots" problem would be to 1) put a cap on the number of event 5-stars, and whenever a new one is introduced, move the least-demanded at-least-one-year-old one to the standard banner (and thus also to the failed 50/50 list for event banners), and 2) add a 5-star selector to the standard banner like ZZZ and HSR have.

@Axterix13

9 күн бұрын

The thing is, the whole point of the banner is for it to take all the characters who will bomb and bundle them up, without impacting the sales of more in demand characters. It's basically a PR move that placates the few people who would actually choose to get those characters over saving for the META/new-hotness characters that are running before, during, or after, while still paying for itself. That it was going to bomb was a given.

I have problems with the rerun patterns as well. I want to get shenhe, but at this point, I don't have any idea when she'll rerun. worst thing is that, there are other characters that I need to get as well, such as archons. so deciding when to save and pull is hard when it's like this.

I agree with you. I was also wondering what happened to the CWB. Genshin doesn't care about us, their customers. That is why I I'm now F2P and easing my way to quitting. I refuse to play anything else from Mihoyo, I hope a lot follow suit too. Natlan will be a turning point to a lot of us. I even lost interest on what keeps me playing Genshin, the story. My artifact RNG is terrible that its been up to years since I'm able to upgrade anything.

Yeah they're so shady with those banners. I might even fully quit Genshin because of it.

@SorarikoMotone

12 күн бұрын

...welcome to gacha games, they all are, genshin's one of the least tho.

@vincentwolf1456

12 күн бұрын

@@SorarikoMotone One of the most* I play multiple gachas, none of them has such an scummy weapon banner. It's downright criminal.

@ThePenguinsKing

11 күн бұрын

@@vincentwolf1456 this banner is better than the weapon banner. People also ignore the fact you can lose to a limited banner character. It has weapons that aren’t rerunning which are best in slot for some characters.

@Melotaku

11 күн бұрын

Are you only here for the gacha? There’s a huge game there too you know.

@claire98

11 күн бұрын

​@@Melotaku You're right. There's so much more wrong with genshin, it's not just the gacha. Tedious world quests you can't skip, puzzles that are making less and less sense with each update (especially in that added Liyue region), world quests with barely any action and a whole lot of talking that wastes your time... I was willing to overlook that since I still liked exploring. However, the way they're running their banners is the last slap in the face I can take from this company that does not care about its playerbase at all.

I don't think low sales would be a reason to not do the banner. I mean, it makes the few players who want those characters or weapons happy, and, hey, not like you want to re-run those low interest characters on the regular banners. System is already implemented, so it'd likely turn a profit with the major work already done. I think, instead, they just don't know who to put in the banner. They can't put Shenhe on there because of a dumb rule they made for themselves, so who do they add as a third with the #1 obvious choice not allowed? Hu Tao? There are also only 2 Liyue standard banner five stars... and there will be 0 for Inazuma. The city theme sounded cool for Monstadt, but they didn't think ahead. But really, they're Hoyoverse, and more, specifically, the Genshin team. The Genshin leadership crew, especially in PR, is kind of special. For example, they don't announce through the in game notification system when their live streams are. Just how incompetent do you have to be to overlook that? They don't go for easy wins like giving a few 10 pulls of standard banner wishes for the anniversary stuff. That sort of thing. They're pretty dumb in a lot of ways.

The banner is good in theory and could have been hella good in practice. You made good points like how older characters wouldn't become completely unaccessible. The banner system could be future proof, as it runs 6 characters at a time on one banner, allowing 10 characters to run per patch ( and roughly 80 a year if they do every patch ). The one banner also prevents banner inflation and choice paralysis, while still reducing the time between character rotations. Also, if liyue and further regions get banners, it would defs improve in value, as losing a 50 50 would still yield high value characters like going for kokomi and getting kazuha, and even if not, it's way better than another diluc.... but ya if they had just allowed the player to keep their fate point and/or extend the duration to the entire patch it would be perfect! Long term this is our best bet, the 3rd banner would quickly become inefficient (roughly 48 runs a year, much smaller than the current and growing cast) and throwing old characters on standard would literally make them hell to get But ya ramble isnt perfect, just wanted to yap about it

I’ve been waiting since I STARTED THE GAME OVER A YEAR AGO for Shenhe and Ganyu. I’d also shell out so much fucking money to pull on Keqing directly but despite being money hungry some characters they just won’t sell

@WordsOfTheTeacher

12 күн бұрын

Worth noting that not only are they not taking my money for those characters but now that I have hope for chronicled banner with Ganyu and Keqing (and Shenhe MUST get a rerun soon… right?) has me withholding ALL of my money for them and skipping new characters and basically everything, in *all* of their games. Haven’t spent money to pull since… Acheron? Or chiori/Eula? I can’t even remember

Just like on HI3, they should at least slowly add the older limited 5* characters on standard banner, that way we have a chance to get them....but yeah, I can't see them doing that at all 💀

Well, they did say it would appear 'from time to time', so not every patch. I did think it would be in 4.8 though. Pity does carry over, the guarantee does not and it really should.

Imagine someone joining half a year ago, seeing Shenhe banner and being like: I love her, but I won't be able to grind enough for her, no worries i'll get her on next rerun 😊" 💀💀

Even as i was waiting for the Albedo rerun, i feel sad for everyone still waiting for their favorites caracters coming back,

I literally got an ad for ZZZ in the middle of this video ☠️

Actually there's one other benefit to Chronicled which was the main reason I wished on it- it allows you to guarantee Standard 5*s. I've been playing since freaking 2.0 and I've never once pulled Keq or Mona in Standard or 50/50 losses, the RNG keeps giving me Jean, Diluc, and weapons over and over and over and over. Chronicled actually let me pick Mona instead of waiting for the RNG to tell me I can have her. Sadly with the first one only focusing on Mondstadt chars I haven't been able to do the same for Keq and I'm stuck waiting for either Chronicled to return or for the RNG to actually have mercy on me.

You know what Aether Gazer did in their recent China region patch? (China is ahead compared to Global so we'll get this) They made some older limited characters go in the pool for the Standard Banner but now you can choose which 3 characters from that pool you want to be rated up. And pity is 70 pulls. Now the limited banner only gives limited characters if you lose 50/50. No more standard 5 star characters when losing 50/50.

Seems like a good time to have the chronicle wish with the imaginarium theater mode too. I do feel like hoyo don't respect us though.

If you are a older player then you know this isn't their first rodeo keeping their word so not a shocker

What they needed to do was get rid of fate points and just do the normal pity system which carries over if you dont get what you want and second make it last an entire patch, there's no reason why it shouldn't.

The parasyte ost, a man of culture I see🔥

as a f2p i'm getting scared for the future. genshin is my favorite game, and i've been playing since 2.0 nonstop, even though my account was made in 1.1 and i quit after a bit. primos are getting less and less literally before my eyes, i do my comms, i do story quests, i do hangouts, i explore, and even then i only get roughly 40-60 wishes depending on what was released that version.

I did wishes on the chronicle wish banner for Tighnari's weapon. I was lucky enough to get it early. 😍

Lately I feel like Arlecchino is the best thing they've released in a year of updates, haha. Let this guy cook, the video is awesome - shocked at the facts!

Maybe its time to tell some secret. Just wanna say as someone whos f2p but has a bunch of characters with average 30crit value per artifact piece (54+ max) and also have 3x 50 crit value pieces. The technique is just simply grinding at a specific time (😏) everyday for a week in only one domain. Feels like theres some sort of hidden pity per week per domain and time also matters. Just try every time frame of the day ( morning, afternoon, night or dawn and observe what works for you).

"you have to be crazy to prioritize Klee over Neuvilette and Kazuha" Me: guess I'm crazy then LMAOOOO

Literally the sole reason I keep playing since November of 2022 and farming is for Venti and Albedo, I do pull for other characters, bc I'm a collector, but if I already have the character I don't care abt constellations. Also I'm a f2p so I save and farm as much as I can. I couldn't get albedo as I didn't know they were adding this banner, I tried really hard but I was too busy at the moment. Venti I had really bad luck.

You chose a great example, i joined to get ganyu in 1.2 and didnt get her, and only a year later i got her ;-;

@valentinjesus6213

12 күн бұрын

Meanwhile... I joined for primordial jade cutter in fontaine... it never came... then came back for natlan... it never came... 100 years go by and my son tries to get PJC but it never came... another 100 years go by and my grand daughter tried to get the PJC to commemorate me but failed to do it in her life time( the cycle continued)

I just want to say that this Chronicle with banner or whatever it is it's coming in hsr and it's the same thing if not even worse because for the light c you have 50/50 but in the game the original light c banner is 75/25

I have a great idea for Genshin every 1000 wishes you can 5 star choose two characters and you will randomly get along with the two a 50-50 but no matter what since you are going to get a character like you will be happy. I have only gotten one 5 star character and I have been playing for a long

The background music at the end was sooo fitting!

the thing that sucks is that the chronicled wish would actually be a great system if they implemented in. not a perfect one, i wish guarantees carried over and it lasted the whole patch, but it'd allow players to get older characters and weapons. while the one we had may not have been a very strong lineup, i could see a banner with smth like baizhu, xiao, and hu tao being better. i still wouldnt wish on it very often as a f2p but i could see myself throwing the occassional 10 pull at it if the character lineups look good. the problem is that they for whatever reason they decided to run it once and then never bring it back again. i hope they bring it back in natlan just cuz the rerun situation is getting ridiculous. even though it couldve been better it was still a faster way of running older characters and the fact they just forgot abt it is sad

I’m glad this video exists. I whaled a hard to get Neuvilette and his weapon, and I also wanted Wriothesley and his weapon as well. I KNEW it would be awhile till I saw Wrio again, and I was fully expecting to see him again around 4.7 or 4.8. NOPE! we’re getting Yelan again, who’s had 2 reruns in Fontaine (4.0, and 4.8)

Speaking absolute FACTS here! Makes sense, since you've got incredible taste with that Parasyte OST playing ❤

Man, I'm glad I got my Eula from that ordeal. On the hindsight now, dodge a massive bullet there, ain't no way I can keep my calm knowing they owe me my pity by keeping the damn banner. That guarantee reset still the most infuriating thing ever. That alone really set in stones what they intended to do with this banner.

hoyo will never learn and never change

genshin's increasing roster number should not be an issue for rerunning banners because hoyo already had a solution to that with honkai impact 3rd by simply having a ton of banners(supplies) per version. hi3 would have a new S-rank(5 star) getting a rerun even as early as the next version or two after their release unlike genshin where players could wait even up to a year or more to get a rerun for the 5 star they want but couldn't get the first time. genshin wants to stick to 4 banners per version because hoyo figured that fomo with a massive playerbase equals more $$$. hsr players will also run into the same rerun issue as genshin once hsr's roster further increases.

I’m so frustrated too with them taking Genshin payers feedback, and add it to new gacha games instead of adding it to Genshin

@propooperplays

5 күн бұрын

HYV: "We got feedback for Genshin. What do we do?" Employee: "Double all of it and give it to Star Rail and ZZZ." HYV: *promotes them to Employee of the Month*

It’s even worse when you remember the banner takes intertwined fates instead of acquaint fates. That means, using your Ganyu example, she could be on the chronicled wish running alongside your favorite character in a limited wish. But, you just have to choose which banner to pull on because it’s not like you can just save up acquaint fates to get Ganyu then use your primos to get that limited character. No, it *had* to be gems.

I wasted 40 pulls on that shit they better fucking bring it back

I have 70 pity on that banner and saved my 50/50 for the next banner BUT THE NEXT BANNER NEVER CAME

I have a feeling we might get triple banners in 6.0 Snezhnaya.

I will never get tighnari...

@wildfire6859

12 күн бұрын

Wish I could give any or all of my four of him lol.

@valentinjesus6213

12 күн бұрын

I think he will be in version 9.0, unless you get him from standard banner.

@sleeppss

12 күн бұрын

Mine is c2🫢

@vincentwolf1456

12 күн бұрын

Take mine, I never wanted this gay trash on my acc...

@mybeaniebooz9601

12 күн бұрын

@@vincentwolf1456 gladly 😭🙏

I didn't care about Kazuha, so i went for Mona on chronical wish banner. I risked getting c1 Neuvellette though, but luckily i was able to win 50/50 both times. It really depends on what your priorities are. I still hope chronicle banner would return because i still want to get weapon for Tighnari and maybe for Dehya, i dunno. Both weapons are good and it would be nice to have them on the account. Unfortunately i didn't have primos to spare, so i decided to skip them this time. Knowing Hoyo they might return it one day, who knows. I was also waiting for Shenhe on my second account, but had to go for Furina instead, luckily i still have some primos left, so maybe i'll have enough by the time she gets her rerun, but this is so unfortunate. I kinda doubt she'll get a rerun in 4.0,but who knows. Anyway i always found it weird how Hoyo do their reruns, when some characters don't get a rerun despite having a major story quest dropping with them or them participating in major event (like Cyno or Itto or Ayaka etc), and at the same time some characters have early reruns despite them having a rerun not long ago and having no connection to any story or event that is going on (like Yoimiya, Tartaglia, Xiao, Baizhu etc). Why some characters stay gatekeeped by the event or story while others rerun or don't rerun just fine even if they participate or not in the events or story? I don't get, and never will. Maybe it's a way to put pressure on the players and making them think about this character, and demand a rerun. Like it was with Eula. But i doubt that her banner still made them good money at the end, even if we had to wait for her rerun for more than a year. Is this strategy really working? I can't tell.... As an f2p i sometimes glad that some characters rerun rarely, but at the same time it forces me to make choices while i wait (like with Furina), which isn't gteat either. Good thing i don't need every character in the game, or i would've went insane.

@SorarikoMotone

12 күн бұрын

i mean - thats the thing with gacha's as f2p. a game of resource management, it is.

I bought Ganyu skin at 4.4 due to it being on sale and expecting Ganyu to rerun soon since when they released Ayaka skin they made her rerun one patch later. Its 4.8 with a ton of pulls in my bank and just hoping each patch they rerun a character that hasn't gotten a rerun in 380 days as well as her best support cause I am as well saving for Shenhe. Now to screw the few cryo fans I'm pretty sure they will rerun Shenhe and Ganyu in the early patches of Natlan to give the archon and whatever harbringers or dragons there all the spotlight and I will have to chose between getting characters who haven't rerun in over a year or the characters that are influential and important for Natlan rip.

@a-non6238

6 күн бұрын

The archon at least should be guaranteed to rerun within 5.x and is a safe skip if need be. I woulda said all characters before 5.6, but considering Wrio was early Fontaine and still doesn’t have a rerun… 😬 As someone waiting for Kaveh cons (who now wants Kinich & will likely need to dodge a 5* again, ironically Ganyu the first time) I feel the pain and REALLY hope your ladies come back soon. Honestly feels like a scam to sell skins of characters with a limited time discount and NOT release the actual characters for like a year+

Shenhe has been my most wanted character for years. I joined just too late to get her first banner, missed her second, and have been suffering ever since. My disappointment that this golden opportunity vanished into thin air is kind of crushing . . . Using her as an example hit a bit too close to home.

I am a Tighnari main but I started playing after he was featured so I didn't have his weapon, so this banner was a godsend to me. I think the idea of this banner is good even if you need to have 180 pulls to secure what you want, but at least in that banner you couldn't lose to qiqi, keqing or any other standard banner character other than the mondstat ones. My guess is this was going to be true for other regions, but I think Hoyo realized that characters from other regions are actually very good and "losing" a pity to Yelan or Hu Tao, for example, is something they can't allow. Hopefully, with wuwa in the picture, they will realize they can no longer do what they want and retain their players.

The pity not carrying over is mind bogglingly stupid. It does so in every other banner. Especially when it uses the limited banner pulls. (Also I’m not risking getting Eula even for Albedo cons or the hunters path 😅)

i kinda like that the banner isnt every patch so that theres time to save up in between but i feel like it should be every other patch or every 2 patches so it gives enough time for more characters to be eligible for the banner so its not the same almost every time it comes back to a region. when or if the liyue banner comes out im definitely pulling for qiqi because ive wanted her since about early inazuma, and i just didnt have a good device

You hit the bullseye

Love the JJK reference lol 05:58

Another thing is that this banner only allowed for intertwined fates and not acquaint fates, which really sucked as it limited the amount of pulls you could put in even further 😕

I like Genshin and I will play it till the end whenever that is BUT I Refuse to play any other of their games if other people like it that's fine I don't bash them for it but no way am I gonna play any other game they put out its genshin and that's it for me I do understand why people get mad at Hoyo it really hates Genshin which I literally don't under why

@valentinjesus6213

12 күн бұрын

same, seeing how they treat there players i'm not touching another hoyo game.

@SorarikoMotone

12 күн бұрын

@@valentinjesus6213 they treat their players well - its the "players" that feel offended. all the concerts, events, etc, conveniently forgotten because entitlement and not understanding how gacha works. newsflash - all gacha are unfair to some degree. you wont be getting everything off it, thats the point. you also often have to make choices - thats also the point. in the end, genshin is the easiest where you can make such choices, because such choice wont be from the point of "need", but from the point of "want".

@valentinjesus6213

12 күн бұрын

@@SorarikoMotone Hoyoverse: let's put baizhu again, it's only been 5 months! Oh and yelan only got 1 rerun in fontaine so why not again. Shenhe: 🙄🏥 ganyu: 🤕🚑 primordial jade cutter: 💥irmisul'd💥☠ kaveh: 🔪😵 kokomi: 🍽🍲 players wanted chronicled wish hoyo slaps your face. 80+ characters and we have to wait 1and half or 2 years for the character we want. what a joke company.

how come after a character becomes so old they dont just shove it in a standard banner? If you lose 50/50 you have a chance to get a really old character. What i think is funny is snow break is doing this exact banner right now for their anniversary, but the pulls actually carry over lmao.

“shenhe hasnt been in a banner for over a year and a half” me getting shenhe on her first banner rlly is a huge flex huh😭🙏