What Happened to the Ancient Egyptian Language?
Egypt today is the largest Arabic-speaking nation in the world, but the Ancient Egyptians spoke a completely different language. So how did things change?
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So I didn't end up speaking Egyptian/Coptic, and I didn't want to paste someone else's video into this one (and steal their ad revenue), so for those of you still curious what the language sounded like when spoken, here are a few clips from other channels PolýMATHY's Wellerman parody in Egyptian -- kzread.info/dash/bejne/qatqxrBwpdKsZMo.html The Stele of Kuʀi - Ancient Egyptian Spoken -- kzread.info/dash/bejne/m6Nks6iSqNjShpc.html Speaking Coptic -- kzread.info/dash/bejne/mn931MOLoM3Nj5c.html
@chimera9818
28 күн бұрын
I feel like misr probably came from the Hebrew name for Egypt of mitsraim of the land of the straits
@alecity4877
28 күн бұрын
9:44 but KhAnubis I have an exam on thursday!
@zombieat
27 күн бұрын
@@chimera9818 from Akkadian "mi-iṣ-ru" ("miṣru")
@cushitic173
26 күн бұрын
you really think the ancient egyptians who made the greatest most influential empire in the world would completely lose their language that's very disrespectful they are the Somali and Afar tribe languages today not coptic
@cushitic173
26 күн бұрын
ancient egyptians are not copitcs ancestors they greco roman fayum hyksos
Short answer, it became Coptic
@bozomori2287
27 күн бұрын
Because of greek rulers
@ahmedelkhwaga2751
27 күн бұрын
Nope it's Greek alphabet
@amalsp8955
27 күн бұрын
But the language id descendant from egyptian @@ahmedelkhwaga2751
@KavaskiMedia
27 күн бұрын
Kamen rider fan?
@deadheat1635
27 күн бұрын
@@KavaskiMedia Yes?
Can you make about syriac aramaic language in syria please
@BrandonBDN
17 күн бұрын
Actually most Assyrians today live in Iraq
@true_jew
16 күн бұрын
@@BrandonBDN Assyrians ain't arameans
I envy all these countries with ancient history, like Egypt, Greece, China, etc... it's so cool to read/watch anything about them. Thousands of years of history.
@BlueHawkPictures17
24 күн бұрын
Every country has thousands of years of history, every person living today is an ancestors of someone from an older civilization.
@spicysealion-et8kf
24 күн бұрын
@@BlueHawkPictures17Not to mention everybody's ancestry gets more and more diverse the further back you go following the different strands.
@arnoldmbuthia2687
24 күн бұрын
Less diverse. Especially if you are not from Africa. You are in effect, a small derivative of a section of a gêne pool. Worse if you're descended from royalty.@@spicysealion-et8kf
@akl2k7
24 күн бұрын
@@BlueHawkPictures17 But a lot of places don't have that much *recorded* history.
@AhmedAli-zs2um
22 күн бұрын
@BlueHawkPictures17 you Israeli what you talking about 😂
As Egyptians, we still have some words used from the ancient language. Also, the structure of Arabic sentences is unique and in a way unlike any other speakers of the language.
@mohammed44_
28 күн бұрын
يا جدعان كلنا عم بنتكلم اللغه العربيه بس كلن عندو لهقه بتختلف عن غيرو... How good is my egyptian?😉 I am not from egypt, if I wrote in arabic, you would detect me 99% of the time
@trueordrue
28 күн бұрын
But today's Egyptians are not related to ancient Egyptians
@mohammed44_
28 күн бұрын
@@trueordrue They have a lot of turkish DNA, they were occupied by mamluks and later the ottoman turks. Despite the fact they speak arabic, modern persians are genetically closer to modern peninsular arabs than modern egyptians
@PhedelCastro
28 күн бұрын
@@trueordrue National Geographic did a genetic survey and found that modern Egyptians are genetically 69% indigenous to Egypt
@anthropos_94
27 күн бұрын
@@trueordrueincorrect.
~6:13 The name of Egypt was most likely never pronounced "Kemet." Egyptian writing didn't include vowels, so Egyptologists generally use the letter "e" as a default vowel to slot in between consonants in order to make it possible to say Egyptian words out-loud - hence, kmt becomes Kemet. Based on more diligent comparative linguistics, the Ancient Egyptians probably pronounced the name of their country as something like Kumat in Old Egyptian, Kuma in Middle Egyptian, and Keme in late Egyptian and Demotic.
@deshawnmoore1731
24 күн бұрын
L take
@anthropos_94
21 күн бұрын
Kumat.
@Artur_M.
16 күн бұрын
Oh, that's very interesting and enlightening.
We harassed the Arabic language into changing the scentence structure to be similar to coptic and then proceeded to add a shit ton of coptic words into Arabic, we basically made a new language
@UXMC2
27 күн бұрын
أم الدنيا
@friendlyrobotasmr
26 күн бұрын
Bcs of ur dirty labguage, coptic is gone
@shahriar4706_
7 күн бұрын
that's the case with every society which has chosen to uphold its ancient history. the persians did something similar in another way.
~0:29 For those who can't read Hieroglyphs (surely a tiny demographic, right? ;P), the text on screen is the spelling of the god Anubis' name with a "Kh" symbol at the start, hence "KhAnubis," but "Anubis" is actually the Greek adaptation of his name, so the actual spelling says "xjnpw" or "KhAnpu"
@fenrirgg
23 күн бұрын
And the Anubis at the right end is just for decoration?
@SomasAcademy
23 күн бұрын
@@fenrirgg Good question! That's something called a determinitive - basically, since a lot of Egyptian words were similar phonetically (and because there were no spaces between words), Hieroglyphic spellings would often include a symbol at the end of the word which would not be pronounced but would make it easier to interpret the word - for example, names would usually end with a glyph of a man or a woman, to show that they were referring to a person, place names would often end with either a land glyph or a "foreign land" glyph, etc. There was a generic god determinative, but many gods had their own unique determinitive just for them; the little Anubis glyph is one of those cases.
@fenrirgg
23 күн бұрын
@@SomasAcademy wo, cool!
@TexRenner
6 күн бұрын
cannabis
I hadn't have watched a video of yours in a while, but I must say I'm impressed which how much you've improved in quality since the last time I did.
this video failed to talk about how egyption/kemtic massivly affected egypt's arabic dialect and kinda still lives through it.
@KhAnubis
28 күн бұрын
I didn't really give myself much time with this one, but I will take the ل and admit that was a massive shortcoming of this video
@Abd121
28 күн бұрын
@@KhAnubis it's honestly a big enough topic that you could give it its own video in the future, I think it's very important because I hate the narrative that comes with most videos where Egyptian identity just randomly "dies" and is replaced wholesale with an "Arabic identity", I think it really robs the Egyptions from being able to talk about cool things related to their culture and supports the weird eruocentric claim that Arabs somehow colonized Egypt and "wiped" it from existance when Egypt and Egyption culture were still there the entire time!
@Honest_Question
28 күн бұрын
@@KhAnubis Why are you taking the lamb 😂😂
@someonecommenthere9540
28 күн бұрын
@@Abd121 Westerners don't care about these things at all. They always say that North African ( and even previously Andalusia) countries are Arab. Unfortunately, they are ignorant of many things and have wrong ideas.
@justaduck1664
28 күн бұрын
@@Abd121yeah like we litterly still celebrate an ancient egyptian holiday called (sham el nassim) coptic (tshom nisime)
Great video.
Kemet is usually reconstructed as Kumat. Kemet is an Egyptologist rendition of Kumat. Osiris may have been known to the ancient Egyptians as Wasyiirit. The original Egyptian name of Anubis is reconstructed as Yanaapaw.
@ANTSEMUT1
27 күн бұрын
Really? I see the oldest reconstruction as K'met.
@YuutaShinjou113
27 күн бұрын
@@ANTSEMUT1 From what I have researched, Kumat is from Old Egyptian, apparently even older than K'met.
@ANTSEMUT1
27 күн бұрын
@@YuutaShinjou113 me when I lie, old Egyptian has only had two vowels short e and long e.
@YuutaShinjou113
27 күн бұрын
@@ANTSEMUT1 That can and will be true too. the Egyptian language had many dialects and/or accents we never heard.
@cushitic173
26 күн бұрын
you really think the ancient egyptians who made the greatest most influential empire in the world would completely lose their language that's very disrespectful they are the Somali and Afar tribe languages today not coptic
It evolved and survived to this day as Koptic. That's how the hieroglyphs were eventually deciphered by Champollion.
Great video, very accurate
'As recently as the roman era' ....sums up the Egyptian time scale
Many ancient Egyptian words still spoken in the current Egyptian dialect spoken toady in Egypt that clearly have not Arabic roots or origin whatsoever
Please do a video on how most modern writing systems are derived from Heirogyphics! Love the videos.
@KhAnubis
27 күн бұрын
Way ahead of you! kzread.info/dash/bejne/eax91sanZrSqYLg.html
@Merle1987
27 күн бұрын
They're based off cuneiform, not hieroglyphics.
@ASMM1981EGY
27 күн бұрын
@@Merle1987😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Egyptians invented writing where it predates Sumerian clay hits by 640 years.
@quuaaarrrk8056
26 күн бұрын
@@ASMM1981EGYGenerally, cuneiform as a script is accepted to be older. Something resembling hieroglyphs existed before then, but did not yet constitute a writing system. Sumerians came up with that first. However, most modern scripts are indeed derived from Egyptian hieroglyphs (throug Phoenician).
@OpinionesDeJACCsOpinions
25 күн бұрын
@@ASMM1981EGY Source?
Sucks to see ancient languages fading into obscurity... but that's life.
@brianfox771
25 күн бұрын
In 10000 years, if we don't destroy ourselves, all the languages, religions and nations that are around today won't be by then. Just by shear tiny changes that accumulate generation after generation.
@anthonyosburn3786
20 күн бұрын
The language will go into obscurity because those arabs are not the real Egyptians.
@shahriar4706_
7 күн бұрын
@@anthonyosburn3786 it burns you from the inside that the modern Egyptians do not share your religion, so you deny them their own heritage. its a good thing that no authority actually resides with you.
When I was in 10th grade, we learned to write in hieroglyphs. We had to write letters to the teacher telling about our day. I've forgotten most of it, but it's still fun trying to figure out what's being said! lol It's very kind of you to share other's videos in a way that won't take their revenue.
I am so used to the Erasmian pronunciation I didn't even recognize the word "Koine" except thanks to subtitles, so thanks for including those.
@Basil_o_brouzos
26 күн бұрын
He used a mix of the modern and the old pronunciation. In modern greek we would say (kini) in the attic alphabet it was pronounced koine and he pronounced it kine
@Tinil0
26 күн бұрын
@@Basil_o_brouzos I thought so but wasn't 100% sure since my knowledge of Greek isn't strong, so thank you.
Can you do a video on how it influences those alphabets you mentioned at the end? Very interested to see how it links to the phonetic alphabet, as I struggle to see the similarities but would love to find out
You should make a video on the study of Waltongography
"Demotic as history's middle child" is an underrated but true line
As a Sundanese we still have the Kemetic Nubio language and culture
@SuperibyP
16 күн бұрын
We sure do! Given the sheer number of pyramids and temples, the Sudan might prove to be a very important place to go to learn more about how the language was used and spoken, if not simply for the sheer volume of examples.
@003mohamud
16 күн бұрын
Hopefully the Nubian language dosen't go extinct in Sudan
@Africankingson
16 күн бұрын
Great
@wambokodavid7109
2 күн бұрын
Like what language? And in which region...north or south
@TingTong2568
Күн бұрын
Sudan don't give a fk about the Nubian language. They are more Arabs than the Arabs themselves
Fun fact: Egyptian is the only language that we have record of going through almost all of the morphological archetypes. Having distinct synthetic, agglutinative, and analytical phases
I'm Egyptian and I want to point out the fact that language, religion and cultures of societies have always been changing across the world due to the natural course of history, empires fall and new ones replace them, wars, conquests, migrations among other factors lead to this, current France, a christian country speaking a latin based language used to be a country of celtic pagans, current Muslim Turkey was once Greek Christian asia minor, Egypt is no exception to the rules of history, in fact, quite the opposite, Egypt has conserved its culture, language and religion for more than 3000 years, before turning into Christian Coptic Egypt, then to Islamic Arabic Egypt, that ancient culture being dead now doesn't deprive us the right to consider it part of our history, expecially that many relics of that far past can be seen in modern Egyptian speech, celebrations, foods, etc. Egyptians value all their history encompassing all of its different eras
@MrAllmightyCornholioz
27 күн бұрын
The Ancient Egyptian pagan did died though. Nowadays its practiced by non-Egyptians as a neo-pagan religion.
@manetho5134
27 күн бұрын
@@MrAllmightyCornholioz yeah they call it Kemetism, we hope these African-Americans practicing it don't pull up an Israel on us and start claiming Egypt as their own
@ryjitarose5590
27 күн бұрын
That's simply false, Aboriginal Australians follow their culture since at least 45,000 years and according to Jitka Soukopova in her work of "Tassili Paintings: Ancient roots of current African beliefs?" "[o]ne of the main characteristics of African culture in general is its conservatism"
@ASMM1981EGY
27 күн бұрын
@@ryjitarose5590 He's words are actually correct, your aboriginal Australians claim at the furthest tip of humanity is just a unique exception and a matter of time, Australian is an English-speaking, demographically Chinese-dominated country now if you don't live with us on planet earth.
@ryjitarose5590
27 күн бұрын
@@ASMM1981EGY Look at the Shilluk people, they follow customs very similar to ancient Egyptian ones meaning they are seveal millenia old. They believe the soul of the Reth (king, which sounds very similar to Ra, the God of Kingship) goes into the Nile until a new Reth has been selected for the soul of the first king to inherit and they put the body of a late king into cow hide just like the ancient Egyptians. Also, Aboriginal Australians aren't a monolith, they have very different cultures and aren't all the same people
JUSTICE AND FREEDOM FOR THE COPTS
@OmarAlikaj
28 күн бұрын
And the Coptics who convert to Islam too. Many were made to disappear.
@oppionatedindividual8256
27 күн бұрын
Real, every Arab needs to be removed back to Arabia. Egypt for Egyptians!
@manetho5134
27 күн бұрын
They are completely free and living equally as us the Muslims of Egypt, stop spreading western propaganda and hate, do you know the richest Egyptian family, the Saweeras family, are Christians? There is literally no difference between Muslims and Christians in treatment, we attend the same schools, use the same hospitals, live in the same areas, attend each others weddings in churches or mosques, I have many Christian friends, have had Christians teachers in school, and currently have Christian professors in college, to be honest, both the Muslims and Christians of Egypt are suffering under the dictatorial regime in Egypt and our collapsing economy, many Muslims and Christians unfortunately live in poverty.
@manetho5134
27 күн бұрын
+ both Muslim and Christian Egyptians are Copts because Copt just means Egyptian
@mooftwosnum1fan480
27 күн бұрын
@@manetho5134it means Egyptian in Greek, obviously referring to the Christian Egyptians as there liturgical language, Coptic, is heavily influenced by Greek.
~4:37 To complicate the narrative a bit, many Egyptologists believe that Hieratic was NOT a simplified form of hieroglyphs, but rather a script used for simply writing that originated right alongside Hieroglyphs; the earliest Hieroglyphic signs we see are pretty messy, so the idea is that Hieroglyphs and Hieratic might have both stemmed from that common source, with Hieroglyphs becoming neater for use in more important texts, and Hieratic being used for shorthand; of course, we don't have firm evidence of this since surviving papyri only go back so far, so it's just a hypothesis.
@miloscarapic4502
25 күн бұрын
I kinda think that hieratic needed to exchange hieroglyphs, and to be used as new way of writing, but some people decided to use it just for some rituals and inside closed society, so idea of hieratic as new way of writing failed.
@SomasAcademy
25 күн бұрын
@@miloscarapic4502 When we describe it as "simple" relative to hieroglyphs, we mean in the sense of the symbols themselves being simpler in design - you don't need to put as much effort into drawing all the little details. The actual complexity of the script was the same as Hieroglyphs, and it would have been just as difficult to learn. It never really had the chance of becoming a popularly used script, and was most likely never imagined that way, so it wasn't a "failure" - it was just an alternative script to be used by the same people who had the time to learn Hieroglyphs (priests, scholars, artisans, etc., not everyday people)
@miloscarapic4502
25 күн бұрын
@@SomasAcademy That was just my way of thinking about hieratic, i don't say i know much about it.
I wonder if we do bring back hieroglyphics, would cursive be a newer form of hieratics? Would it be faster to write than Coptic or Arabic. I doubt people not used to logographs would want to spend that much time basically drawing out sentences like how the Chinese languages (at those related to the han script) do with their logograms.
@zombieat
27 күн бұрын
demotic would be the closest script to the egyptian language because coptic is mostly in greek script.
@SomasAcademy
23 күн бұрын
Incidentally, Demotic was frequently called "cursive Egyptian" by early Egyptologists! The Egyptian scripts were not actually logographic, though, they were primarily phonetic with some logographic elements - i.e. they had symbols for every sound and some symbols that represented several sounds, but also a few symbols that would represent entire words, and some symbols that would be included in otherwise phonetic spellings to help with interpreting the word (called determinatives).
Ancient Egyptians were speaking in emojis
I think the Assyrian called Egypt "Miser" like in Arabic.
@anthropos_94
27 күн бұрын
It’s a general name in Semitic languages for Egypt/kmt.
@solehsolehsoleh
25 күн бұрын
The Hebrew word for Egyp is Miṣrayim/Mitsrayim/Mizrayim. like the other said, the general name in Semitic languages
@Jay_Kry5hom
23 күн бұрын
As in Mizraim son of Ham grandson of Noah
Egyptian here ! , great video I agree. However, you forgot to mention that Egyptian Arabic now contains hundreds of phrases from the Egyptian language that people just kept saying and that what makes our dialect so unique from other arabic countries
At 5:08 when we mentions aramaic, does anyone know how to find that image? Id like to know more about that tablet as it very closely resembles the old uyghur alphabet than other pictures of aramaic that I can find. I know that old uyghur was heavily based on old aramaic, so maybe thats just this particular writing style.
Well done
Kheper in Egyptian = Käfer in German and Kever in Dutch (beetle)
Me as orthodox christian, would like to hear coptic version of liturgija, i'd feel ancient, listening to that ancient language 😁
Does anyone else notice the similarity in appearance of Hieratic and Arabic script? Wonder if there was an influence there.
@SomasAcademy
23 күн бұрын
Probably not, the Arabic Script gradually evolved from a few precursor scripts, and only reached its modern form after Hieratic had long since fallen out of use! The similar looks are probably mostly coincidental, with the similar writing mediums used for both also potentially contributing.
@brianfox771
23 күн бұрын
@@SomasAcademy Interesting! Thank you for responding. What about demotic having an influence? Same coincidence as hieratic?
@SomasAcademy
23 күн бұрын
@@brianfox771 Yeah same situation, Demotic fell out of use quite a while before the Arabic script as we know it developed.
@ahmedanubis
21 күн бұрын
The common theory is, the hieratic script was adopted by Sinai Arabs, who would later make their own sinatic script and influence the scripts of the Canaanites Nabateans and Phoenicians. The reason why the Egyptian script influenced most of the western world's scripts is because the Phoenician script was adopted by archaic Greeks and from Greek we have Latin and from Latin all Western languages, which were spread globally in the age of colonialism. And the reason it did for most Semitic scripts is because the Sinai Arabs spread their proto-sinatic script to nearby peoples that were the ancestors of the Hegaz Arabs and Hebrews.
@SomasAcademy
21 күн бұрын
@@ahmedanubis It wasn't Hieratic they adopted, but Hieroglyphs, which were adapted into the Proto-Sinaitic script. And the people that developed Proto-Sinaitic are not generally believed to have been Arabs, but West-Semitic speakers from Canaan.
0:08 I doubt the text on the left is written in the Egyptian dialect
@zombieat
27 күн бұрын
its in classical arabic.
@shwanmirza9306
27 күн бұрын
Arabic dialects are only written in texts/comments and in food menus
@tarumtrue2834
27 күн бұрын
Because its not That a surah from the Qur"An
@shwanmirza9306
27 күн бұрын
@@tarumtrue2834No? Not a surah. Look closer. It's just info about a historical person with islamic phrases
Can you expand on it's.development into the system of Devanagari and Thai
@SomasAcademy
23 күн бұрын
Basically, Hieroglyphs were adapted into the Proto-Sinaitic script, which then evolved into the Phoenician script, which evolved into the Aramaic script. The Brahmi script is generally believed to have been adapted from the Aramaic script (though alternative hypotheses also exist!), and Devanagari and the Thai script both ultimately descend from the Brahmi script. If you'd like to learn more, I have a video on my channel called The Origins of the Alphabet about the evolution of Hieroglyphs into the Alphabet we're using now through a similar chain of evolution!
For what I know about the ancient Egyptian language, they used to place the numerals and the adjectives after the noun they respectively quantify and qualify. And this is exactly the way any ancient or existing African language is built. You can check with Wolof, Yoruba, Swahili, Zulu.... So in a sense, they used to "speak african". Which is all but a surprise. For instance they use "cows two" to say "two cows", "tree big" to say "big tree".
I've been to Egypt and their version of Arabic had so many words probably of ancient Egyptian origin. In general, even Egyptian Arabic is hard to understand for their cousins in Saudi and Emirates.
@ahmedanubis
21 күн бұрын
The only reason most Arabs understand Egyptian in the first place is because Egypt had the arab hollywood if you will, and prior to that, having a blend of Hegazi x Yemeni arabic and region specific coptic meant that most foreigners wouldn't understand it until relatively recently.
Shorter answer - it became Aramaic. I have a 500 word Egyptian-Aramaic ‘dictionary’, with the same pronunciation and meaning. R
Bro made such a well pronounced video and then hit me with “devnoggery” at the end
Any Egyptians trying to revive Coptic and even raise native speakers? I want to learn tongues in order to speak to natives and would gladly add Coptic in my list!
@Honest_Question
28 күн бұрын
No one has it as their native language
@eluemina2366
28 күн бұрын
Yes! There are more and more Egyptians doing so. I have Egyptian friends of both Christian and Muslim background who speak it and I am learning myself, at an intermediate level now. Join the movement! :D
@Mimi.1001
28 күн бұрын
@@Honest_Question Didn't stop Hebrew from being revived ^^
@danshakuimo
28 күн бұрын
I'm pretty sure there are still some copts being raised with it as a native language, though bilingual with Arabic if in Egypt or a language like English if diaspora. I guess the issue is that with everyone being bilingual in a more commonly spoken language there is not a significant need to actually speak in Coptic. Though I think there should be a slowly growing interest in the Coptic language from outside the Coptic ethno-religious community with the proliferation of the Coptic American churches, which bridges the gap between the ethno-religious Coptic community and the wider American one.
@meina0614
28 күн бұрын
@@danshakuimothere is none. There are those that know it fluently but they learn it alongside arabic. Proficiency levels vary as well.
Ancient Egyptian language has evolved into Coptic language. Languages continue to evolve with new words, terms and expressions adopted while dropping old ones. Only dead and extinct languages stop evolving. Dead languages are languages that are no longer used as vernacular, but the usage is restricted as liturgical languages of various religions as well as certain philosophical works while extinct languages are languages that are no longer used for any purpose. Coptic is regarded as a dead language as it is only used as liturgical language of Coptic Church though there might be some pockets of Coptic communities use it as vernacular only within their own communities.
5:26 The black book of Hamunaptra or the Necronomicon?
The minoans might also had been using a form of egyptian hyroglyphs in the linnier A script
"Miṣr" is cognate with "מצרים", the word for Egypt in the Torah. Where did it come from?
@mostafanabil2526
22 күн бұрын
From the ancient egyptian word mdjr
What about Mesopotamian languages?!
Can you do a video about the Illyrians?
@Konstantinos3631
2 күн бұрын
the albanians would click onto the video faster than the speed of light, only to then die of disappointment when they realise they are in no way related to the illyrians.
@emanuelskelaj9843
2 күн бұрын
@@Konstantinos3631 then what are Albanians related to if not Illyrians sense you know so much more then me
@Konstantinos3631
2 күн бұрын
@@emanuelskelaj9843 The albanians are albanians, as simple as that. The albanians of today are related to the ancient albanians. Illyria was it's own thing
I thought modern Coptic was descended from the older Egyptian language, but I wasn't 100% sure, lol. Thank you for the interesting trip through linguistic history! God be with you out there, everybody. ✝️ :)
Even sumarians are isumaren which is named after asamer East in Kabyle and Issumaren those who come from the East
thers one thing to note that arabic was already present in modern day egypt that is the sinai and the eastern desert from pre islamic times. for instance many rulers conquered the nile valley of egypt, like the assyrian king Esshardon in 671 BC who conquered egypt by help of these arabs by ("camels of all the kings of the Arabs i gathered and water skins i loaded on them, IA 112), and the persian rulers cambysses in 525BC (the arab... filled skins with water and loaded all his camels with these, herodotus 3.9) and artaxerxes too in 343 BC. It is also for this reason the that according to herodotus (3.88) that the arabs were some of the only ones in the achaeminid realm that werent reduced to servile status but united by friendship (this part doest make sense to me either), but its also probably bc of this reason that the persian royal tomb relief depict the arab along with the scythian in golden chains. There are berbers (dont know since when honestly) in the siwa oasis too i find it dumb that people here try to depict egyptian dialect as some form of survived coptic when for a half lebanese like me i can understand it clearly (shockingly this is true for most dialects, arabs like to lie about how their dialect is so unique and special lol)
@shenuda
25 күн бұрын
Thats because sinai isnt Egypt proper and wasnt inhabited by copts. Even on roman maps sinai was a separate province. So back then it wouldn't be considered Egypt.
@jaif7327
25 күн бұрын
@@shenuda yes i said modern egypt but sinai was inhabited by some coptic monks later on
@shenuda
25 күн бұрын
@@jaif7327 no. Saint Catherine monastery in Sinai is run by Greeks not copts
@jaif7327
25 күн бұрын
@@shenuda i thought they were native egyptians just following the council of chalcedon, damn
@jaif7327
25 күн бұрын
@@shenuda i thought they were native egyptians just following the council of chalcedon, damn
Coptic and south Semitic languages like (mehri, sabean, ge’ez) are probably the closest languages to ancient Egyptian
@elimalinsky7069
26 күн бұрын
The Berber languages of North Africa are more closely related. Egyptian and the Berber languages belong to the Hamitic branch of Afroastiatic.
@Iamfsaly
26 күн бұрын
@@elimalinsky7069 Ancient Egyptian belongs to the Afro-Asiatic language family, and semitic languages are a sub-branch of the Afro-Asiatic language family and include languages such as Arabic, Hebrew, Amharic, and Aramaic. Ancient Egyptian and the Semitic languages share certain linguistic features and vocabulary due to historical interactions and influences between speakers of these languages , Berber is a Hamitic language but both Semitic and Hamitic branches of languages are part of the AfroAsiatic family.
@elimalinsky7069
26 күн бұрын
@@Iamfsaly Indeed. The other branches are Cushitic, Chadic and Omotic. These are more divergent from Hamito-Semitic though, which are more immediately related to each other.
The name "Misr" or slightly different forms of it was found in some ancient Egyptian official papyrus texts and diplomatic documents written by and to the Egyptians, It's not a name that was "given" by the Arabs. The word "Kemet" which means "black earth" was used by the people who lived along the Nile on the fertile black soil of the Nile valley to simply refer to their homeland on which they lived, it was never used as an official name for the country referred to by the Latins as "Egypt". The people who lived in deserts and worked mostly as miners and quarry workers would refer to their homeland as "Deshert" which means "red earth". As for the word "Egypt" a possible Egyptian influence on the Latin word could be the word "Gip" which those who lived in the Nile Delta and traded with people from the Sea such as Latins relying on the network of canal and small rivers and their connection to the Mediterranean Sea, the word "Gipt" mean canal.
Actually there are lots of common words between Arabic and Ancient Egyptian. Take the word kemt which was the name of Egypt. It means black so does the word kumait كميت in Arabic which also means black. Add to that the similar Grammer between the two languages
Ancinet Egyptians never called their country ad whole Kemet. The Dshret or the red land was also part of Egypt. In all foreign correspondence, the kemet name never appeared even once, from the Akkadian and Myceanian to Greek or Romans and beyond, only names derived from the semitic name Misr or the Egyptian Hikaptah were used.
Most of the names in Africa tafarka in Kabyle have meanings in tamazight
:13 that woman id rocking s SpongeBob shirt.
Sadly I've had Egyptians tell me that Arabic is original language of Egypt and that Coptic was a colonial language.
@anthropos_94
26 күн бұрын
Pan Arabists.
@j.obrien4990
26 күн бұрын
@@anthropos_94 yeah typical of colonial powers trying to belittle the countries they've invaded. Humans kind of suck in that way.
@MoloIongo
25 күн бұрын
Man I hate the Arab conquests so much like actually
@shenuda
25 күн бұрын
They're invaders twisting history and facts. Muslim Egyptians = Arabs
@MUT-Studios
25 күн бұрын
Seriously just who told you that???? Have you ever had history class in Egypt?
Why is the nile valley cultures the only culture that most people argue about? You've notice there isnt aztecology mayanology incanology. Why egyptology?
0:13 ana sbanjibob
Before the industrial revolution, European expansion, and the national education system, Egyptians were overwhelmingly farmers(still kinda were even under british rule) and the more rural you go, even today, the more you realize how "Egyptian" egyptian Arabic is, a blend of Hegazi(and yemeni) arabic and regional Coptic. You will notice how it could be considered a language of its own. In the cities, however, you will find countless foreign words from Italian, Greek, French, English, Turkish even Kurdish and Morrocan. That is because Cairo and Alexandria specifically were melting pots of MANY groups, kinda like NYC today, I like to say that before there was the American dream and the concept of "the land of opportunity" for people building themselves from nothing, the kingdom of Egypt was exactly that for foreigners, but sadly after the 50s military coup most non-Egyptian groups fled.
Technically, the Ancient Egyptian language would have been called Kemetian by its speakers. The Ancient Egyptians called themselves Kemetians. The land of Egyptian was called Kemet by the Ancient Egyptian. The Ancient Egyptian Mythology would have been called Kemetism. The name Egypt came from the Greek Ptolemaic Dynasty, which controlled Egypt before Rome annexed it. Heck, today, Egypt calls itself Misr.
@JosePineda-cy6om
28 күн бұрын
Arabic Misr comes from Hebrew Mitzraim. As you can see it's a plural word, referring to both the Upper and Lower Egypt - ancient Hebrews had intimate contact with Egyptians and picked up from them the idea that it was really 2 different countries: the lower one, at the Nile's delta and surrounding areas, and the upper one,today's southern Egypt and northern Sudan. There were ecological differences between the 2, and speakers of Egyptian from south had some trouble communicating with folks in the torth and viceversa
@ezrafriesner8370
28 күн бұрын
We don’t actually know how kmt was pronounced, it’s just standard practice in Egyptology to put an e where the vowels are otherwise unknown. It may have been Kemet, Kamit, Kimat, Kamet, Kemat or all else more with any other vowels you can think of. Until we get something closer to a demotic or earlier Coptic style inscription giving us the vowels, we have no way to know for sure
@user-dp3ow4of6c
28 күн бұрын
amazing they had the same affixes as modern english
@lzbscalle7943
28 күн бұрын
Egypt was called Egypt by the Greeks well before they occupied it. Kmt was the endonym tho. The religion was likely not called Kemetism since pagan religions were rarely named, especially by insiders. If anything it would be named by outsiders like the greeks as part of some Egyptian/Ra pantheon
@retf8977
28 күн бұрын
That is not true at all. Kmt was AN endonym; not THE endonym. In fact egypt had a more common endonym, deshret, and a locally used exonym, misiru (which was used by the near East and carried on to hebrew and arabic and eventually modern egypt) and the Egyptians didn't call their religion anything, neither did any ancient civilization
i love you khanubis
I can speak Middle Egyptian and Coptic with not so bad level. You welcome Egypt.
@blade7506
26 күн бұрын
nofri shai
@dogancanozgokceler3234
24 күн бұрын
@@blade7506 Ⲛⲟϥⲣⲓ
3:17 I don't know some scribe whold sneak it in
@KhAnubis
23 күн бұрын
Actually yeah they did that sort of stuff all the time
It’s called EVOLUTION my friend.
I created a new language that uses a mix of English,Coptic,Armenian and Deseret scripts together lol
You failed to mention that the modern egyptian arabic is not 100% arabic and has many words and even grammar from many languages including ancient egyptian as well
9:33 *elle-même*
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9:34 / 10:31
Petition to change "Berber" to "Amazigh"
Iranians resisted against arabization and kept their language Persian.
Ancient Egypt >>> Modern Egypt
You forgot to mention that everyday masri is HEAVILY influenced by Coptic, some things in Egyptian arabic are practically intelligible to non Egyptian Arabs due to this fact
copt8c
"n older literature, Chinese characters may be referred to generally as "ideographs", inheriting a historical misconception of Egyptian hieroglyphs, but some people assert that they do so only through association with the spoken word." - WIkipedia
0:13 Spongebob
Coptic is a Graeco-Roman-Demotic creole. Gotcha.
Hi. I am Kabyle from north Africa. Egypt is مصر. This comes from tamazight mis = son. Ra= god Ra. Misra is egypt it's son of Ra.
I ated it
The Copts' language is ancient Greek... No one knows the phonetic language of the Pharaohs... It is just writing different letters, but the sound of the letters is unknown to anyone.
I'd like to say what happened but I don't want to get banned
@sidizem5173
27 күн бұрын
Your story will be false anyway...
@ZhuyithNuristani
3 күн бұрын
"muhh I'm getting censored wahhhhhh😢"
Egypts
Egyptian was never an entirely logographic system like Chinese
CONQUERED AND TRAMPLED UNDERFOOT
The people that you see there today are not the indigenous Egypt thats why those arabs do speak the kemetian language
Ancient Egyptian reconstructions legend: OE = Old Egyptian ME = Middle Egyptian LE = Late Egyptian bꜣjr = OE /baʀˈjaːruw/, LE /bøʔrə/ nṯrj = OE /nacˈruj/, ME /naˈtruj/, LE /naˈtruʔ/ wḥꜣt = OE /ˈwaħʀat/, ME /ˈwaħʀaʔ/, LE /ˈwaħi/ ꜣbw = OE /ˈʀuːbaw/, ME /ˈʀuːbaw/, LE /ˈjuːbə/
It became welsh
How can one completely lose its own language? The answer is simple. Ancient Egyptian are not equal to Modern Egyptian. They are different people. Even the coptics is not the same as the Nile Valley Nubia peach black Africans. Indigenous people of Nubia, which is known as upper Egypt, is not the hycsos Arabs who conquered lower Egypt. At least, we all agreed to the fact that upper Egypt is Nubian black headed people. Right???
Other Arabs : no bro Egypt speaks their own shit we can’t understand
It becomes Coptic then merge with arabic creating the Egyptian dilact
Hhhhh simple cause those who spoke migrated deep inside the continent of Africa.
because a bird took too long to draw as the letter 'A' lol
Thank you for you video 🙏🏻. Arabic is derived from syriac which was an aramaic dialect, Arabic became its own thing after the introduction of the dialect in the abbasid era. in the other hand, Egypt used to speak Greek and some form of aramaic, maybe syriac? Also, there were never a mass migration to Egypt to introduce a language or religion from the east.
@ryuko4478
27 күн бұрын
Not true, Arabic and Aramaic are sister languages and Arabic lacks many innovations that Aramaic had and vice versa. Literally no one thinks Arabic comes from Aramaic except nationalists that refuse to actually read the science that goes into studying the relationship between languages.
Hadda from reno
MISRI IS AKKADIAN NAME OF KEMIT
Conquest after conquest until all of the ancient culture was wiped The final blow being the Muslims who did not respect non abrahamic religion but the language was long dead by then
@ahmedanubis
21 күн бұрын
Egyptian culture wasn't wiped out it Christianized and later Islamized, that is an ignorant statement... Muslims allowed Zoroastrians to practice acts such as Mother Marriage, they allowed Hindus to worship all their Gods and maintain their rituals, both are non-Abrahamic faiths. Islamic law is clear, Non-Muslims under Islamic rule are ahl al dthima (the people of protection, i.e. protected class) They get to rule their communities by their book and common law as long as they pay the Jyzia tax of 1.75% of their yearly income to the state. The prophet said "Whoever harms a dhimmi will not smell the scent of heaven" and he said that he would defend the dhimmi on the day of judgement in front of God... So yet another hilariously ignorant statement. The Egyptian language was not long dead 😂😂😂You had 7 MILLION Military aged males(based on the Jyzia tax population estimate) speaking Coptic when Arabs conquered Egypt, the vast majority were farmers and the vast majority didn't speak Greek or Latin.... a third ignorant statement, come on you can't be this dense.... But if you are sincere I would recommend you look up a lecture on YT by Fawzeya Haykal called Egyptian Cultural Continuity to see how wrong you are and maybe you learn a thing or two about how Christianization and Islamization impacted Egyptians.
@ZhuyithNuristani
3 күн бұрын
It took the entirety of North Africa centuries to be fully arabized,seems like a very slow final blow😂.