Why are people so mean to her she didn’t even do anything bad

@emma-mz5xm

4 жыл бұрын

Jannah Ismael people were cyber bullying her for thinking she was ugly, worthless, annoying, and thinking she had a mental disability. they’re disgusting smh

@user-gv7px1dt9g

4 жыл бұрын

knetz just hate seeing things that go against what they’re used to and it’s sad that they’re so close-minded

@zhuallen14

4 жыл бұрын

Cuz humans are disgusting

@ghofranelaouar1164

4 жыл бұрын

@@emma-mz5xm in addition to her feminism

@b.khuu.

4 жыл бұрын

From what I gather (aside from people just because horrible, cruel or jealous) a lot of it is because of the conservative Korean culture and they didn't like her lifestyle? I'd love to hear more about her "offences" myself.

The fact that people still criticize her even after she died is just disgusting

@amandavincent5488

4 жыл бұрын

and they even threaten a girl day member(minah) when she post something to respect sulli passing away and tell her if she want to be dead next.

@peachxtaehyung

4 жыл бұрын

@@amandavincent5488 what???? So she cant pay respects to her? Omfg people are just disgusting

@beckembrown7002

4 жыл бұрын

Holo starlight The Sulli Act will do nothing. All it does is limit actual free speech. Korea’s problem is much more societally rooted. The real issue is that they are so much more judgmental of each other and that is what needs to be fixed for not just kpop idols but everyone in general.

@Nick-ue1kg

4 жыл бұрын

@@amandavincent5488 They also did this to Jennie. You must have heard of the #Jennie Is Next... It's disgusting..

@holdontillmay.

4 жыл бұрын

I saw that and I literally curled my lips in disgust. They're even bullying krystal now. It was so bad she stayed at Sulli's altar for 3 whole days because she couldnt stand the malicious comments she and sulli were getting.

Mental health is not a joke. Depression is not a joke. Suicide is not a joke how many deaths will it take for people to take these subjects seriously

@sharonapple6686

4 жыл бұрын

Yet some immature bullies still talk shit about innocent idols. It really is sad

@Memeposting

4 жыл бұрын

@@sharonapple6686 exactly but at the same time they have these unrealistic expectations forced upon them when they are just humans

@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj

4 жыл бұрын

Memeposting Exactly and people are just focusing on the bullies when it was clearly more than that.

@Memeposting

4 жыл бұрын

@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj yeah it is a societal problem

@34466e

4 жыл бұрын

I told my friend about the sulli thing and she just said "Oh yeah. A lot of celebrities commit suicide for no reason now. I don't understand why; they have a great life and stuff." aHEM WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY??

People don't wanna commit suicide, they just want the pain to stop.

@cat4331

4 жыл бұрын

BTS-Bhabie it’s a thought I told my therapist “I don’t want to kill myself, I just want to kill the part that’s hurting me.”

@eurika297

4 жыл бұрын

Sometimes it's not just pain, but because we're just tired of this endless cycle of survivability. I don't feel pain, I just feel mentally tired which makes me want to stop living.

@btsislifeyallifeellikeapro7193

4 жыл бұрын

@@eurika297 exactly

@claire4866

4 жыл бұрын

when you commit suicide, it doesn’t get rid of the pain, it just transfers it to others.

@emilleanthonette

4 жыл бұрын

@@claire4866 This was exactly what I told myself repeatedly when I had suicidal thoughts a few years back. It was painful to live, painful to keep on going, but in the end it's never worth it.

The same people that will act like they care are the same people who started trending "Jennie is next" on twitter hours after Sulli was announced dead by suicide. Disgusting.

@kyoto7839

4 жыл бұрын

Gia Rose sheesh

@roter13

4 жыл бұрын

are you kidding? peopler so mean!!

@tanniagarduno

4 жыл бұрын

some people also said “yoongi is next”

@amandavincent5488

4 жыл бұрын

excuse me, these people really don't have nothing to do, but bully innocent people.

@peachxtaehyung

4 жыл бұрын

What??? Omg i cannot stand people

Q: "Dear Sulli, what's your biggest dream ?" A: "Become a mother, I want to be a mother before I die" 😭

@P4RXP1LL3D

4 жыл бұрын

this made me break down, she was such a kind a caring person who did nothing wrong. she didn't get the chance to live life to its fullest potential and truly follow her dreams.

@brianlittrell797

3 жыл бұрын

@@P4RXP1LL3D She's alive, well and happy right now in the spirit world/afterlife and she can and will reincarnate again when and how she chooses. This lifetime was horrible for her but she is perfectly fine now and she will eventually grow to the level where she is so strong that hate from people will not bother her or make her feel bad. All her dreams will eventually come true as they eventually do for all of us spirits/souls who live forever.

@cloudy_kit0

3 жыл бұрын

Aw this really made me cry, literally. 😭

@ARMYBLINK-zs1qh

3 жыл бұрын

and what a good mother she would have been. i miss her

@MusicChanneI1738

2 жыл бұрын

This made me so sad :( I wish there was a way where I could go back and save her😓

that girl smiled everyday no matter what, we didn’t deserve her. the sky now has another shining star 🌟

@Deakuebestgirls

4 жыл бұрын

Ture

@rudyvanimmerzeel1675

4 жыл бұрын

Amen

@iamaboyyou

3 жыл бұрын

True. She was an angel and don't belong on Earth

@iamaboyyou

3 жыл бұрын

She was too good here she deserves to be in peace

We all should learn from this tragedy, stop hate.

@HarveyRSM00

4 жыл бұрын

Everyone must understand that hateful speech is disgraceful no matter the language

@peterdonlon2083

4 жыл бұрын

It’s still free so each though. We must not let our emotions take control of our lawmaking process or something bad will happen. Restriction of free speech is the first step towards an authoritarian state.

@han-fq1si

4 жыл бұрын

You should also help the people who are in need

@asmaeboulaid7023

4 жыл бұрын

And bullying

@twerkingllamaboi5572

4 жыл бұрын

Sadly, some people will never learn. Thinking driving people they hate into suicide on internet is "justice" and "they deserve it", "not my fault"

Sulli was killed by society. And the fact that people are still talking shit about her after she died is disgusting! Let her rest peacefully

@lazarusguan2388

4 жыл бұрын

We will answer for every word we say one day, personal experience as an ex-hater. For instance, the haters are now the center of hate, disgust and scorn. And they are attracting legal attention that possibly comes with legal consequences. The more shit they talk after Sulli's death, the increased likelihood for the Sulli act to be enforced. That's because they are telling the government agencies that the internet is more dangerous than they think. They are also telling government agencies that they cannot be entrusted with freedom of speech because they are irresponsible. They are telling the law enforcers that the internet can be another tool for murder, threats, violence and other crimes and thus far, without consequences. They are also telling law enforcers that cyber legal enforcement needs to be in place.

@lazarusguan2388

4 жыл бұрын

@Heracles N If that deserves to be bombarded with hate messages to the point she commits suicide, then you deserve the same treatment too. Because your statement demonstrates ignorance and a lack of intelligence. And it is people like you who proves the point that humans are worst than animals. Animals kill out of hunger or when intruded. So what did Sulli do? She went to people's Instagram and commented on their posts offensively? Or is Sulli food? Humans are the only species that I know of, who can derive pleasure out of hurting and killing others. And it is this aspect that make humans worst than animals.

@lazarusguan2388

4 жыл бұрын

@Heracles N You talking about yourself? Because that seems to be what you are doing since you started.

@exceptionallydistinctivedi481

4 жыл бұрын

@Heracles N what intelligence. I bet u can't live a day in her shoes..

@lani5025

3 жыл бұрын

@Heracles N you’re disgusting

KPOP specifically doesn't need to change, Korea needs to. This issue falls into too many areas outside of entertainment. I just hope people don't fully link Sulli's death to being an idol who was targeted just in entertainment because that only highlights this issue within the entertainment industry and not society as a whole who have come to normalize hate comments and anti culture to anything.

@ad_kk16

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly! Students in Korea are even struggling. Not just Idols. Bullying is so serious in Korea. Just the work/school culture is brutal too. The elders are left in the dirt and poor. Just so many issues. That goes for everywhere but shit no wonder why the suicide rates are so damn high. I feel bad for those people.

@Katcom111

4 жыл бұрын

I mean the world need to change but the problem is how can anybody stop cyberbullying if their are like billions and billions of people around the world that can use VPN whether your country have strict internet control except for the United States.

@Notafeministpodcast

4 жыл бұрын

Just stop calling humans idols period they aren’t perfect

@ODBleach

4 жыл бұрын

@@Notafeministpodcast it's a job description, actually

@019christinalalrinkimiralt9

4 жыл бұрын

Yes!

*If you don’t have anything nice to say. Don’t say it.* “Just wanna tell you Hi” -Sulli Goblin Sulli was and still Amazing well miss and love you Sulli

@alexasalinas3429

4 жыл бұрын

It really is sad, she did nothing wrong. Also btw *1994

@bellaa8696

4 жыл бұрын

@Alexa Salinas ah! Thank you! I thought I did 94 thanks!!

@alexasalinas3429

4 жыл бұрын

@@bellaa8696 yeah, its ok lol

@anthonyrango4262

4 жыл бұрын

*signs in sign language* Suicide is a sin in gods eyes

@qishiyi9613

4 жыл бұрын

@@anthonyrango4262 lol

She didn't commit suicide. She was MURDER by bullies online. What hurts the most is that she did absolutely nothing wrong to anyone, yet people wouldn't leave her alone even after she called them out. Sad. I hope she's in a better place now.

@aribanahonarukas1641

4 жыл бұрын

The cyber bullies are surely a part of it but she also has a personal life so it couldve been out of personal reasons as well

@sunnyysideeupp

4 жыл бұрын

the bullies didn’t hold a gun to her head and kill her, she did it to herself. it’s extremely sad that she felt like suicide was the only solution, but saying that online bullies murdered her is a little dramatic. they contributed to it but they did not murder her.

@icymeow3417

4 жыл бұрын

@@sunnyysideeupp - You really think if the hate comments didn't exist she would be as miserable? I don't. She listened to them about her weight, and no matter what, they were always unhappy. Everyone wants to be loved and validated.

@lullyslittlespace8552

4 жыл бұрын

Murdered*

@sorafanchick

4 жыл бұрын

@@sunnyysideeupp Murderers. They killed her soul. They killed her spirit. They killed her vibe. All she did was end her body. But the cyber bullies killed her on the inside with their constant torture of her. I don't think it's dramatic at all to call them how we see them. They may as well be a mob of murderers. It's like surrounding someone until they fall off a cliff.

listening to jyp talking about taking care of his employees.. makes me want to cry from a mixture of joy and weird feelings

@Ruby-dc3wp

3 жыл бұрын

He still overworked twice so don't be so quick to kiss his ass

@sailorgamer2368

3 жыл бұрын

All idols are overworked no matter the company

@nm9688

3 жыл бұрын

Just don't overwork them, better solution. But capitalism cannot allow for that

@janm.8341

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ruby-dc3wp yup JYP has done a lot of bad things and still continues to do that. Not promoting Got7 and Day6, Overworking Twice and Itzy, and sexualizing Itzy. But at least they try to talk about mental health and have a good relationship with idols that have left their company, while other companies won’t even try.

@Ruby-dc3wp

3 жыл бұрын

@@janm.8341 SM has idols that have worked there for for almost 2decades like bOA,YG has Big Bang even after the scandal they were gonna come back if not for the virus so the other companies have had long relationships with idols so it’s not just JYP

It's so heartbreaking that she said so many times how unhappy she was and yet she still recieved so little support.

@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj

4 жыл бұрын

Hayley Dawson She could have had help from her family and friends. But sadly I think she chose not to speak out. When anyone is depressed, you can chose to speak out if you want or not. For example, one of my favorite Taiwanese celebrities Aaron Yan was depressed so he told his father and his father was a doctor so helped him get treatment for it. I really wished that Sulli did the same.

@serenityf.6234

4 жыл бұрын

@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj it's good he got help, but sometimes the people around you don't understand what's going on with you & there's still a lot of social taboo to it all and esp ongoing mental health struggles that can't 'just be cured' are difficult to understand for others and not supported enough...

People only care for you if you are: Rich Pretty Popular Dead

@goobiegoober123

4 жыл бұрын

Sadly true 💔

@avalol4053

4 жыл бұрын

It’s sad to think that everything you said is true and needs to be stopped

@madhukirasoi4440

4 жыл бұрын

Omggg that dead part really hit me hard😭😭😭

@amethyst4235

3 жыл бұрын

Sulli was rich, incredibly pretty and also popular. they didnt stop hating on her until they went too far

@CarlaJageryearsago

3 жыл бұрын

@@amethyst4235 ikr,

I love how aware JYP is about mental health. I hope all idols would be given the right treatment on their mental health by their companies. Rest in peace, Sulli. You didn’t deserve all the hate.

The companies can also hire a team of people to delete hate comments under the artists' social media pages.

@peterdonlon2083

4 жыл бұрын

They need a definition of hate first. Or else someone will inevitably abuse the power

@ultrainstinct3802

4 жыл бұрын

In Sulli's case, it was clearly hate towards her. Many people also mentioned that it is the voilation of free speech but that truth is that free speech not something that give you a license to abuse and to judge people's life and theirs personal or character as if they've known them personally.

@charlottepage7085

4 жыл бұрын

@@ultrainstinct3802 Most of the articles written about her could be considered as defamation which is not protected under freedom of speech

@l.l_stef5808

4 жыл бұрын

Think about how many social media pages are there tho and how many hate comments are posted practically daily. Not to mention the good or neutral comments. There isn't a bad comment section so let's just use a not so popular comment section. 1 to 2 million comments that team would have to go through how many videos? Not just mvs or their artists videos. Other artists videos. Which could total to over 10 million comments that's alot. Possible? Yes. But it would take alot and I mean alot of money to hire even just enough people to delete the comments and even then there will be overlooked comments. So what you are suggesting is very hard and would take years for companies to implement. A better way is to hire a team of people to take care of the artists.

@LM-ix7pk

4 жыл бұрын

Chatise Smith not even that. they can pay all these haters to stfu

Theres a model from sm, lee uisoo, who killled himself last year. Theres something wrong in sm

@nuhamuhsin171

4 жыл бұрын

Ikr there's definitely something fishy about them

@oopsy-daisy

4 жыл бұрын

😱

@PolishAxolotl

3 жыл бұрын

And trainees...

@sonder8310

3 жыл бұрын

In a society that stigmatizes Mental Health so much even the psychtrists themselves do it - good luck on finding help. It's also about the do you get help when you need it, which there is SM to blame but also the society as a whole.

I will never understand some of Korea's mindset. Yes I know America isn't perfect when it comes to mental illness, but to call someone selfish for sharing their feelings about being bullied relentlessly online for doing literally nothing to the public to me shows me that Korea has a far way to go in terms of mental illness awareness.

@sunebites

4 жыл бұрын

Social awareness in general* Racism, sexism, etc

@ValaraVerdui

4 жыл бұрын

In another video I watched, I think it mentioned how the youth are more generally more accepting and understanding. Not all, of course, but you're more likely to find a teenager who won't berate you for your depression than an adult. Either way, it will take a long time before things change, but hopefully the younger and future generations can quicken the pace.

@cupid3890

4 жыл бұрын

The thing is, Korea's older generation thinks that mental health is just "a stupid phase" and that they'll "get over it soon". I think that mindset has been passed down to the younger generation because most of those haters probably think that mental health is a joke and that suicide doesnt exist, something like that. It's really sad because korea needs to modernize. Not in just their technolagy and business models, but also other people's feelings. They need to understand that mental health is just as important as everything else. I think that educational programs about mental health to students will be a great way to steer them away from getting stuck in that mindset. Lol this was lengthy.

@ValaraVerdui

4 жыл бұрын

@@mia6470 Do you mean Americans take their culture for granted? It's sort of fascinating how different cultures can be across the world about the same topic/issue/etc.

@bread2951

3 жыл бұрын

Its just Asia in general

The fact that two idols from the same company committed suicide it's so alarming. We all know Taeyeon has been struggling too and guess what, she's also from SM. I don't blame the company fully but there's something they need to do in order to prevent this. Take big hit and YG, they go against malicious comments, even as far as YG deleting videos calling Jennie lazy (even if it was just constructive criticism). People need to change, not just kpop and Korea but everyone should keep in mind their words can hurt. Be kind to each other.

@moonbunnygw8342

4 жыл бұрын

I'm worried about Taeyeon tbh

@gabbievillarreal8905

4 жыл бұрын

@@moonbunnygw8342 same! She already lost two people that were so close to her :( I hope that she's surrounded with people that can help her if anything were to happen

@meghab2415

4 жыл бұрын

I'm worried about Jennie, the hate she's getting is out of control. I don't understand why people were making those videos just leave her alone, we don't know what's going on behind the scenes or how she's feeling. She's gotten way better now yet still people hate. People will hate on her claiming it's constructive criticism but it's just bashing her and I'm tired of it. At this rate Idk what's going to happen to her.

@rawrxD69

4 жыл бұрын

SM did try to stop her malicious commentors but the people were using fake IP addresses and a lot of them weren't from Korea so SM couldn't do more for her.

@AddPeewoow

4 жыл бұрын

there's something fishy going on in SM. and this happened after SuperM's debut

"She was drowning, but nobody saw her struggle"😔

@pastexpiry2013B

4 жыл бұрын

Nobody? She livestreamed herself crying for 10 minutes. I wonder how many true friends she had.

The saddest thing is that she wanted to be a mother.....

@pikachurose3067

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you

I think it should be mandatory for every company to have a psychiatrist for every idol and trainee

@raphaelsalumbidesofficial3260

4 жыл бұрын

Why mandatory if u can actually hire a psychiatrist to work in every company?

@Brit15102

4 жыл бұрын

Raphael SalumbidesOfficial I’m saying that it should be a have to for everyone company to have a psychiatrist and that every trainee and debuted should have to see them

@HyLo-rule

4 жыл бұрын

How about only the ones with mental issues?

@Brit15102

4 жыл бұрын

Kate I think that everyone should have to visit to really see who needs it

@Brit15102

4 жыл бұрын

Kate you don’t have to have mental issues to need someone to talk to

i ended up crying so much, but i’m glad that she’s at peace now rest well sulli, you were always an angel and now you’re also a beautiful star in the sky

I think this problem with malicious comments and cyberbullying is deeply related to Korean class culture where junior employees need to obey all commands of their boss without talking back; youngers need to obey elders. Also the work culture is very stressful, long hours with over-times, afterwork functions. These problems result in people being stressed themselves and they turn to the internet where they can vent, judge and express their negative emotion anonymously. It is absolutely no excuse for leaving malicious comments, however everything happens for a reason. Without changing the root cause, no law, acts and penalities will be about to stop this disease...

@Hughjasslol1

4 жыл бұрын

I agree

@soulkiss1013

4 жыл бұрын

I don't think grown ups leave these kind of comments. They're mostly made by immature teens.

@twiceoncex9933

4 жыл бұрын

@@soulkiss1013 yes i would say most are young immature commenters. But some grown ups are immature too

@damnthatmashlookstasty

4 жыл бұрын

Well said.

@lazarusguan2388

4 жыл бұрын

I agree but I think this is not isolated to Korea. Singapore share similar problems and I believe in many other countries too. I believe this is a global issue, particularly in developed countries, and it's of an epidemic level.

It is not only kpop but every music genre or just any person Edit: Kpop has some has more requirements, some very dumb, and all, but I am talking about the fans and the hateful comments. Kpop can be very scary

@arriek.1375

4 жыл бұрын

I'm stůqiđ ;3 period

@adorablerepresentativemcfo9892

4 жыл бұрын

kpop is way worse though. and korea has major problems in stalking celebrities and going to the extremes to ruin someones career by leaking personal information. not to mention the crazy amount of critisism that idols get for the littlest things because they couldn't "maintain" their "perfect" image. & the idol industry is extremely competitive so being compared to others and put down is a breeding ground for anxiety and depression. it's terrible honestly, from the media, to knetz, locals, sasaengs to the company itself? one can only take so much of this bullshit. i'm not saying american singers or other artists don't have to go through bs aswell but kpop is definitely on an extreme level.

@adorablerepresentativemcfo9892

4 жыл бұрын

even kpop fans are very toxic, many idols have mentioned going through each and every comment on social medias and there's definitely some hateful fans on there & cancel culture is big rn in social media and kpop so

@brownsierra2607

4 жыл бұрын

Let’s not even pretend like other genre are the same..kpop is so much worse.

@btsislifeyallifeellikeapro7193

4 жыл бұрын

@@becca5500 exactly, its sad

And they're sending hate comments to Krystal, iu and Victoria... Because they consider they didn't show enough sadness in social medias. Those people are trash

All profit made from this video will also be donated. Please help in raising $1,000 to donate in honor of Sulli: www.gofundme.com/f/in-loving-memory-of-sulli

@Hnricky

4 жыл бұрын

That's a very important thing! Thanks for donating

@evanyong5871

4 жыл бұрын

doing very very well Nathan keep going 😀😀😀

*DID NOBODY LEARN THEIR LESSONS WHEN WE LOST OUR DEARLY BELOVED JONGHYUN FROM THE SAME THING?*

@winterdal

4 жыл бұрын

jonghyun is not your poster boy for depression and suicide.

@KagamiKawaiineD35u

4 жыл бұрын

@@winterdal no one said he was.

@winterdal

4 жыл бұрын

@@KagamiKawaiineD35u stop acting like he is, then.

@tenji9663

4 жыл бұрын

soyeon's gf lmao aight, whatever you say.

@winterdal

4 жыл бұрын

@yea i like kpop, so what? Jonghyun was already struggling with depression pre-debut, fame had nothing to do with it

Although the 'Sulli Act' may sound like a great solution, I personally don't think it will help Korean society in the long run. Sure, using real names may decrease the likelihood of harsh comments, but then what about the right to one's privacy? People use alternate aliases on the internet all the time, mostly in a harmless way to express who they feel they are or another identity. Sulli obviously had one of the rudest comments made ever from what I have seen, but would this act do the same for actual constructive criticism? Artists grow and improve with feedback, even negative ones in order to enhance their work to their fans. Yes, positive feedback is, of course, important, but only receiving positive feedback will not help one to realize their mistakes or what they can improve at. As a psychology student in university, I have learned that restriction only leads to more loopholes to commit deviant behaviors. People will still find a way to create fake aliases on the internet even when this is made illegal. And let's say people still had the audacity to still comment malicious things with their real name and they got arrested and pay a fine, or whatever punishment they get. The people are not going to learn why what they did was wrong, but rather only feel sorry because they got caught. I think a better alternative is to really emphasize the importance of mental health. I know Korea has been improving with mental health awareness, but it needs to be pushed more. I know that education and careers are highly prioritized, even more than your family and health in Korea and are reflected in the schools and in the work environment. Cramming for all the important exams in a 12-hour school setting and working for 12 hours at a company can make you feel unmotivated to live a healthy (mental and physical lifestyle). If Korean society can find a way to not be so uptight yet still manage to produce effective results, that would be great. And I think that can start with implementing therapy/psychologist programs in various schools and companies, including Kpop agencies as Nathan said. I am a Korean-American and although I do not live in Korea, I personally became a psychology major in order to help raise awareness, because I have noticed mental health even among many people in my family, friends, and other circles are just not talked about or not taken too seriously. It all begins with being comfortable in expressing how you truly feel. I also grew up bottling up my own feelings and opinions that as soon as I reached adulthood, I didn't know how to communicate and relate with others, which gave me anxiety and depression as well. I don't think it's right to say that Korean people are the problem, but rather there is a problem in the Korean culture that instills such pressure to conform with society and always show perfect results at whatever you do. Many societies other than Korea are like this all over the world too and I hope that the whole world can be just a little nicer to each other while still being honest, and to not stick their nose up into people's personal lives and judge the way that they live.

@pastexpiry2013B

4 жыл бұрын

Canada is a great example of what can go wrong. One guy interrupted a female reporter doing a live report with a vulgar expression, and some guy standing in the background (let's call him CableGuy) started laughing. This happened on a Friday, and by Monday morning, CableGuy was FIRED because the Social Justice Warrior Mob found out who he was and where he worked.

@lazarusguan2388

4 жыл бұрын

I do agree with creating awareness about mental health. But I also believe legal enforcement is also required. It's just like crime. Despite being educated that we should not commit crimes, there are those who still did it anyway. We need legal enforcement to handle such cases. Education and legal enforcement needs to go hand in hand. Just relying on one approach will have limited effect. As for rights to privacy, well, remember the tragedy of Princess Diana? Were the rights to privacy for these public figures respected? If anyone wants privacy, there is a simple solution. Limit personal info on social media just like how we do it in our physical social life. And let's face it, the truth is most netizens don't see the need to be responsible with their words and actions because they are using another ID. It's not their own reputation at stake, it's something else's. And if issuing a verbal threat, instigating suicide etc physically is illegal, does it make it right if done on social media? How many people are getting away with these online criminal acts? No policy is foolproof or perfect. But the fact is that deaths (not just kpop stars) are occurring due to the misuse of social media and no regulation is in place. To prevent more deaths, a short term solution is needed and legislation is the fastest way to keep things under control. Only then a long term solution like education can be effective. Without legal consequences, it is unlikely people will be bothered with mental health awareness.

@sutomuarashi

4 жыл бұрын

Mibby you’re so smart,,,,,,,,,,,,, 🤯

Between the deaths of Sulli and Jonghyun, we need to learn to be more sensitive to people's feelings, and listen to people's cries for help and choose our words carefully, be uplifting and be there..

@gumdeo

4 жыл бұрын

SM model Lee Ui Soo as well.

I feel like everyone who talks about Sulli's struggles only talks about the hurtful comments and how it caused her depression. No one talks about her disassociative disorder, Sulli has been so direct about it through her songs and even her music video and the fact that her childhood, trainee period and idol promotions and lifestyle were a huge factor that influenced her mental health. I feel that these companies should not be allowed to admit children as trainees, there should definitely me a minimum age and the kids should not be limited to dorms and company premises. They should be able to lead a normal life outside of training and idol promotions so that they are able to develop normally both mentally and emotionally in wholesome and secure environment. These kids are lonely, they lack care and affection they needs guardians to protect and care for them in that age. They need proper emotional support, confidence and nutrition and sleep but instead they are told to train as much as they can while starving themselves. The culture is also very toxic be it the fans or antis, these companies need to step up and make huge changes in the trainee systems and promotions and also protect their artists from the hate. Also the fact that she was given her celebrity persona "Sulli" at a very young age before she even debuted is even more messed up.

@markigirl2757

4 жыл бұрын

Alliteration or something yess to this omg it baffles me why they only accept “14 to 17 years old” it’s just sooo icky and ridiculous makes me lowkey thing the kens implementing this in the higher ups are pedos due to sexualicizing the whole thing

@khadijak5464

4 жыл бұрын

@@markigirl2757 they accept pre teens as well, and they do that so they can fully train them but it has to stop. They need to stop incubating idols, training should be voluntary and under super vision and involvement with the parents. Keeping them away from everything even their own emotional and mental growth is ridiculous, they are told to starve just so they look good on camera. These are the fundamental very wrong and unethical issues existing within these training agencies, it's about time someone pulls the plug on it and makes real changes.

there was this one time...where a girl that was sullis' age left a hateful comment and sulli was gonna sue her...but she didnt want the girls' record to affect her job career so sulli didnt...we really lost an angel....idols are human too... we miss u sulli and jonghyun...i wish this world was better than we wished...

@CarlaJageryearsago

3 жыл бұрын

Same ARMY... I feel so bad for Sulli... She doesn't deserve this much hate.

When she said "did i do something wrong?" That hurt me too, she don't deserve any of this, she did nothing wrong yet people is giving her harsh words, she's suffering because of this for years.... I'm so mad at those people, look what yall done to her, what if you experience this kind of pain? Don't do those kind of things to others if you don't want others to do that to you

the world is lacking so much... compassion, empathy, and acción... action upon everything... to protect, to spread love, to support each other even if we dont know each other... i want to believe that more good people exist than bad and toxic... i hope that Sulli give us the strengh to act... Sorry for my english, is not my first lenguaje

@niadaniels1044

4 жыл бұрын

Your English is quite good!!!

@kuyenlig4005

4 жыл бұрын

@@niadaniels1044 thanks! 😁

@NinisVIP

4 жыл бұрын

I've understood everything, my fellow non native English-speaker 😉, and totally agree with you. Love and peace

@infinity-gn9xq

4 жыл бұрын

Toxic people are louder and they stand out.. Otherwise how do they find those malicious comments among 1000s of fan!!

It’s sad that she died I loved her a lot I remember her being in fx good memories 😊❤️😭

I want to work in SKorea as Psychiatrist. It will be challenging and fullfiling to work with these people going thru anxiety and being denial about it .

This is heartbreaking because most of the people that never heard of her finally were able to learn about her and appreciate her sadly the moment she was gone from our lives Rest In Piece Sulli

JYP is best out of the big 3 he cares about the idols and not like SM and YG

@dxpresssoul6297

3 жыл бұрын

Momo was about to die because of jyp

« Kpop needs to change » We said the exact same thing when Jonghyun passed away..

She was my bias when I started stanning Fx in 2014, She was an angel, she was kind, she was talented and now she can rest in peace with Jonghyun. Sulli, whatever you are please take care of us. We'll miss you and thank you for everything. We love you♥️💯

I know a lot of people were nervous for you to post this vid so soon, but I think you pulled it off really well and I’m glad you didn’t mention how she died. Good job Nathan!

@InternetsNathan

4 жыл бұрын

thank you very much

7:51 "losing people that bring us out of depression" this. wow. it rings true with me. some of the kpop artists i look up to (and some khiphop and indie artists as well) are my biggest inspirations and the reason why i have hope in the world. but their mental health is suffering. how ironic. they are depressed but they bring me out of my depression :(

Online bullies don't know that their hate comments can destroy someone's life and mental healts,spread awareness cause many, not only kpop idols ,but people's mental health can be ruined.R.I.P Sulli💔💔♥

Thank you so much for making this!! This helps spread awareness about mental illnesses!

Once again, may her soul Rest In Peace

I only found out about her and her death last year. I didn't even know who she was because I was new to kpop. I wish I knew about her earlier😭. RIP Sulli, you will be dearly missed.

@zandilengcobo3115

2 жыл бұрын

Also please stream her song, Goblin. It's a beautiful song:kzread.info/dash/bejne/gmmpp5mEdM6qdqg.html

Rip Sulli you will be missed & Jonghyun it still hurts knowing he’s gone.

I didn't keep up with Sulli after she departed FX so I was shocked and devastated to learn of the hardships she endured. She deserved so much better.

I was crying hard for Sulli last Friday even though I'm not really her hardcore fan. I just know how it feels to hurt so much that you just want to end the pain. I used to see her in videos and pictures and always notice how beautiful she was. It's just so hard to imagine that smiling angel has flown away from this world.

I am a tough and physically strong man...and every time I hear this story about Sulli, my tears start pouring. Its just not fair. Something meaningful has to be done..love to everyone, please treat each other well and respect our differences.

@pikachurose3067

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you

Thank you for making this video, I was crying on Monday because of what happened to Sulli. I have had my own struggle with depression, and you doing this go fun me gives me hope

After a year, it still hurts so badly.. MISS YOU TOO MUCH SULLI!! WE LOVE YOU!!

Wow! I had absolutely no idea that JYP had psychologist in their companies to help all artists (trainee to debut) to even the workers present. That is absolutely amazing and makes me respect JYP so so much. My friend and I were literally talking about the need for this in every company and I’m glad JYP is one, if not, the first company to implement this. It is so important 👏🏽👏🏽

The entertainment industry is unforgiving. When kids are in their most vulnerable developmental years are put into the industry and are put through the grind, being surrounded by adults, having all that pressure on them it's hard to build the grit to ignore the daily criticism. It's a classic case for most child stars any where in the world...I mean... the list goes on and on... And Nevermind having social media on top of that. People are absolutely cruel and cowards to think they can directly criticize anyone and think it's ok. I'm new to KPop culture so I didn't have an opportunity to become a fan. But she's a human being and I wish there was more that could've been done for her. 💔

I appreciate the approach, and the stance your channel addresses this SERIOUS issue from is outstanding. Thank you for being a strong support citizen.

I know it was hard for you filming this but thank you very much for doing this

I really hope people will stop bullying, and be more educated on how serious mental health is I hope she's at peace now people can be healthier, have hope!

Finally someone talked about. Thank you we all needed this.

She was beautiful, successful, rich and beloved by many. It is scary to know that haters were able to bring an innocent little girl to a point where she wasn't able to enjoy ANYTHING. R.I.P

People are now paying attention to her since she is dead like 🤦‍♀️

I really admire the way you are trying to change things by taking literal actions there should be more people like you seriously Let’s just all learn from the Sulli case and try to prevent the spreading of negativity and spread positive vibes instead That would have a huge impact on the improvement of our environment and society That doesn’t mean you should stop state your opinion in public or on the internet, but just try to formulate it in the most positive way possible so that the person who gets criticized can actually take your advice and improve We , as members of the k-pop community, should take this case serious and not just ignore hate comment but maybe respond in an accurate and respectful way to those comments making the writer unterstand that what he or she is doing is not ok That’s just my opinion you don’t have to agree on it and if you have something to add or wanna state yours just respond to this comments I would really enjoy discussing this topic with you guy Stay positive.

I just wanna thank you for making a video like this. This will really help out a lot of people I can tell.

Thank you so much for this video. It was really respectful and it created awarness for this topic.

Not only kpop needs to change, the society needs to change.

The worst is how easily those things could have been prevented and they weren't.

thank you for talking about it.

Thank you for this. I really appreciate your honest effort to help spread awareness. This video is so well done.

whenever i hear goblin by her it always gets to me ugh:( may you rest in piece now sulli, you can smile and be happy now beautiful soul❤️

NCT 127's Jungwoo went on hiatus for the later half of 2019, and I'm wondering if SM Entertainment was being careful with his mental health. He is generally a very anxious and sensitive person and he only just debuted in 2018, so it's frustrating to think that he was overworked with stress from the 2019 North American tour, or just the difficult work schedule in general. I hope SM can learn from past mistakes and take better care of their idols. Jungwoo is back with NCT 127 with their recent comeback for "Kick It" and "Punch", but who knows what the future holds for him.

@oreofrisk

3 жыл бұрын

I didn't know about this, but if something happens to any one of SM's or any other idol, I will throw hands. I hope Jungwoo's feeling fine.

This video was done so beautifully, thank you ♥️♥️♥️ Sulli deserved better, I hope that this is the last one of these that I ever hear about, but you're right, it probably won't be the last 😭 Rest in Peace beautiful xx

You would think people would change there ways after the jonghyun case but sadly we lost another beutiful soul may sulli and jonghyun rest in peace ❤🙏

Nobody shall harass her! They think they’re trying to “criticise” her

Well I don’t think there is no way of stopping hate on Social Media since they are Unknown but what you said about Companies having therapy for artists is the best way... JYP does that and I think Big-hit too.

Thank you for making this video

Knetz can use seeing a psychologist every week, they are so messed up. ⬇if u agree.

We should have learned when Jonghyun died You guys killed Sulli You guys killed Jonghyun If you have something bad to say *DON'T SAY IT!* You guys killed Sulli and took her away from her family. Do you want people to tell you to killed yourself? No you don't, You haters took away our beautiful Jonghyun and Sulli. I been crying since Jonghyun died and now that I heard that Sulli died I been so depressed that I been to the hospital five times in the past year I never want to hear other idol die.

@Hhhgygvgyu

3 жыл бұрын

hey I know this has been almost a year but I hope your doing okay❤

thank you for making this . 💕 god i wanna cry

@CYPH3RRR420

4 жыл бұрын

i literally have so much respect for you

Well said and a good way to address the issue. This channel couldn't have avoided comment, given the topic of the channel generally, and I think you made a respectful and meaningful video on the subject.

InternetsNathan, you are truly a blessing for doing this. Just by doing this, spreading awareness, help preventing, and being super respectful of idols, you have gained more of my respect for me. I've always loved these idols, and being a fan of them is what made me feel life and joy. It was devastating to see her, Jonghyun, and Hara pass away because of malicious comments and cyber-bullying. Thank you for this.

when i found out about her death, i literally couldn't stop crying. But I know that now she's in a better place where no one can hurt. Rest easy, Sulli 💖 i just hope that we can learn to be nicer to each other.

i never stanned f(x) but when i found out that she died i still cried, looking at old happy videos of her. it’s so sad, so disgusting how sick and mean people are. she *died* due them. and they still criticize her? disgusting.

The fact that people still disliked a video about someone's suicide is just horrible, show some respect to her.

I usually skip ads but since I know that’s how to make money I want to help raise as much as possible. You’re so nice to do this. 💓💓💓

“Why are people so mean to her?” This response doesn’t surprise me at all and is repetitive throughout the comment section. We tend to forget that in this big world there will always be different kinds of humans that exist even those who are toxic. People live in a generation that is fully immersed into social media and advanced technologies. My view on today’s social media world is “Whatever you do whether it’s good or bad, people will always have something negative to say.” (W.H. Auden). There’s a story I remember and talks about a boy asking his mother why people like to destroy things that are beautiful. She simply just says, “Well when you’re in a garden what kind of flower do you pick out?” The ones that are beautiful. Sure, we can provide small support systems like finding therapists but, we still have a long way of understanding mental health/illness. Drastic changes will take forever like a human evolution. The problems of cyber bullying and bullying in general is an endless issue that is still troublesome till this day.

I wish she didnt allow comments in her ig posts 😞

will watch this again & again with no skip ads ~ let's prevent suicide! ~supporting from the Philippines

This video is so well and respectfully made

Mental healthcare should be mandatory in every company, especially YG ENTERTAINMENT AND SM ENTERTAINMENT......take care of your employees and artists, they are what makes your company successful.

Keep up the good work buddy! We need positivity in this world of kpop. Protect kpop idols. Stop hating and start loving Stay positive happy people.

Thank you for caring!

Very awesome video. Very very unfortunate and Im super hurt that im just finding out about her its so wrong. May she rest in Peace. Finally

Not only Kpop but how people address depression and suicide.

Just wanted to let you know I used this video in an ESL class in China this week. Some really interesting discussions resulted. Thanks.

@InternetsNathan

4 жыл бұрын

That's amazing and I'm honored!

Rest In Peace Sulli. You’ll be remembered by all of us and you will be loved.

Bless your heart Nathan ❤️

Y'all remember that scene in wreck it Ralph when he reads all the hate comments about him on the internet and it badly affects him?? I cant see that scene now without thinking of Sulli. :,(

I really hope we can prevent tragedy's like this in the future.. I mean it's 2019 and the society is getting worse and worse.. Don't let things like this happen anymore, stay nice and polite.

Thank you for this video. I didn't know of Sulli's passing and thanks to your respectful wording, I kind of feel less shocked about it. May you rest in peace, Sulli. Poor girl... at least, you are free now. I am more skeptical about social media day by day. Obviously they kill, so let's have more concern and respect about each other.

thank you jyp, i hope jyp never changes. i really hope sulli is in a better place now. she deserved so much more.. cyber bullying and just bullying in general can take such a huge toll on your mental health.. as a victim of bullying i can't even express how anxious i feel everytime i go to school, how every day i am in fear i am gonna get judged again without even doing anything wrong, trying to seek help but getting told "just ignore them" "you are overthinking it" it hurts.. when you finally got the courage to seek help but those people who are suppose to help didn't.. its absolutely painful.. i can't even imagine sulli's situation.. she has eyes all over her, getting pressured and so much more.. i just hope wherever her soul is, i hope she's happy. i feel so bad i couldn't help her. i wish i was there for her.