ayo why the thumbnail make me look fat

@tayoniii

2 жыл бұрын

LOL

@Pyroshark

2 жыл бұрын

LMFAO

@slepthrumay

2 жыл бұрын

FIRST

@ethanscharf

2 жыл бұрын

LMAOOOO

@Herough

2 жыл бұрын

hi shaz

I think sentinels had the NIP early game success. They were able to figure out a winning style quickly, faster than the rest of the teams during the game's first competitive seasons. Then everyone else saw what sentinels did and figured out their play style. Then they turned it against Sentinels. Sentinels hasn't really changed with the meta as time went on and hard stuck with their technically old style.

@FPSkazuto

2 жыл бұрын

yeah, hopefully they will figure out some new strats

@Mycrosss

2 жыл бұрын

This is true, but its more about the fact that the initial pro scene was very bad, like half the pro players on top tier teams couldnt even reach Radiant. I'm from EU and got Rad in ep1/2 and I only saw like 10 pro players up there. NA had even worse pro players, like the top teams consisted of 2 people who barely got immortal 3. Now dont get me wrong, I dont think that being Radiant is enough for someone to go pro, In aware that most Radiants suck, play undisciplined and cant cooperate. But still, if you want to compete at the top level, you have to be good enough on your own to reach top 500 against random people who work real jobs. That being said, Sentinels and TSM were basically the only team with 2-3 top tier players, and won just by talent. Now that its a level playing field regarding individual talent, teams with better strats and more practice dominate. Optic plays the macro game insanely well, while Sentinels kept playing the game like a slightly more coordinated solo queue. I legit had better teams in my ranked games, deeper strats and better IGL-ing then what Ive seen Sentinels do in some of their matches.

@0Adnin

2 жыл бұрын

Damn ... you beat me to it

@LshowKnows

2 жыл бұрын

This is true to some extent. NiP adapted to the changes, continued to play Tier 1 events and remained as one of the best teams for a long time. Sens on the other hand barely had any time to sit on their throne before getting destroyed by tier 2 rookies and didn't do much to change. Now only time will tell

@ExLiteW

2 жыл бұрын

correct except NIP became a dynasty and forever cemented itself in history. Sen? kekwlul

Sentinels are a lot like phoenix in a way. At the start of their run, they were unstoppable, but after a while, they began underperforming time and time again.

@abictor3312

2 жыл бұрын

As like phoenix, sentinels got buffed too while adding Shroud

@navneetmishra7622

2 жыл бұрын

@@abictor3312 But is that enough ?

@imcrowned2929

2 жыл бұрын

hopefully those new buffs reach the roots :^)

@fakeandrxwz2777

2 жыл бұрын

ANDTHEN THEY GET BETTER AND WIN CHAMPIONS

@squog8009

2 жыл бұрын

And at some point become completely competitively unviable.

Imma be honest, as much as i love shroud, i honestly think that Zellsis is gonna be the one who is gonna go crazy at the LCQ

@aydenwelton9374

2 жыл бұрын

UNDERRATED OPINION, I'M WITH YOU

@kwanro9172

2 жыл бұрын

I think this is the common opinion for ppl that are really into the scene. shroud is like a steady mentor figure that is consistently and reliably able to pull his weight and goes crazy at times. But Zellsis has that x factor

@orangeviperau9960

2 жыл бұрын

Shroud came to kill sentinels lel

@notgisen_

2 жыл бұрын

I am along with you. Zellsis will pop out

@gabrielmulvey9622

2 жыл бұрын

Shroud is probably going to take the role of support and pop off when he needs to. Kinda like in CS when he was with stew on C9, he focused on letting the new talent shine and flourish since he knew that they could probably do better.

Sentinels was the only ‘benchmark’. Everybody looked up to them when they were winning master. Everybody learned how sentinels play, also come up with counter strats. Today, we have so many good teams with their own speciality.

@Katniss0000

Жыл бұрын

plus WITHOUT a COACHING STAFF during those masters 2021. The LCQ 2022 sentinels despite having 2 week practice was able to show they can almost beat the two grand finalist (Guard and 100T) by taking 1 map and going to Overtime. They should have done this thing in the first place (BOOTCAMP, Better and complete Coaching staff) then they will be able to become more consistent.

I wish they do the same tribute to the OG TSM squad. TSM was the "team" back then but everything went south and now they are dead silent.

@thursday4265

2 жыл бұрын

I feel so sad about this, I love Roza and it's breaking my heart

@d0klln506

2 жыл бұрын

@@thursday4265 yeah, was so sad when Wardell left and now I want roza to go too.

@nahs30

2 жыл бұрын

@@d0klln506 fr man, i want roza to be on a much better team, everyone knows he can perform up to tier1 standards, sucks that he is stuck in tsm.

@AdrianTumang

2 жыл бұрын

they have a decent team now, compared to before it was built around wardell. now they just need to play more games and scrim more and they’ll be back.

@TheYogesh7777

2 жыл бұрын

BRO, HOW MANY TIMES YOU GONNA WRITE SAME COMMENT???

They out-skilled everyone early on, but everyone else started out-working them.

@sad.6906

2 жыл бұрын

bro, thats the truest thing i have ever heard. they just stood there, not learning and it hurts me...im a sub on everyones channel, i love them and their personality but this makes my heart hurt seeing that

@thefatherinthecave943

2 жыл бұрын

They led the scene and now it’s time for a different team

@BrahmaDBA

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Looking at teams like Loud, Paper Rex, FPX it really shows how doing your homework and working insanely hard pays off huge.

@mintyfresh4855

2 жыл бұрын

@@BrahmaDBA Don't forget DRX. No matter the meta they always keep up and are still some of the few teams in the entire world that still have pretty much their current roster. It shows their versatility and adaptability.

@justboycottlife9044

2 жыл бұрын

@@mintyfresh4855 they choke alot tho

I don’t have any expectations for them at LCQ, I’m just excited to see all of the fun stuff they’ve been teasing finally play out

Been watching Val eSport since early days and I can honestly say, SEN took advantage of early game, found their style way faster while other teams were still trying to find their correct composition and didn't have such chemistry, synergy and weren't together for as long as SEN members were + SicK was insane, while now he took a time off due to personal problems, I believe. SEN was also heavily affected by meta changes, TenZ usually playing mostly Jett on competitive level. if he'd become more flexible as other duelists, maybe that would be even better. After their Tournament win, other teams caught up with the strats, counter-strats, proper preparation and putting extra work & focus on competing at Tournaments and/or specifically beating SEN. After that I can't feel otherwise than SEN shifting the focus into the streaming and now getting the franchise spot than actual competing. It's going to be fun to see how they'll perform in few days with the new roster, hopefully to see TenZ on Chamber.

@sarimsalman2698

2 жыл бұрын

Sentinels kind were the big centralized team, and since they were winning everything, other teams took advantage of that and came up with ways to exploit Sentinels puggy playstyle.

@Ilikefinalfantasy795

2 жыл бұрын

@@sarimsalman2698 always a counter move to every strat that's what make these games fun to watch.

@agrimgupta9723

2 жыл бұрын

They were like NIP in csgo

@Boschx

2 жыл бұрын

@@agrimgupta9723 Calm down Imao SEN were relevant like 2 weeks only

@saf9261

2 жыл бұрын

@@Boschx bro said only relevant for 2 weeks 🤡

I really feel like you guys do a good job on your mini documentaries. Maybe in the future you could look into getting segments on to ESPN. It would be really cool to see something like this on tv! :)

@MrDaCynic

2 жыл бұрын

Difficulty with having eSports on tv, especially with the newer games is that zoomers are the main demographic for it, and they don't watch much TV at all these days

@frazierk300

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrDaCynic yeah my thoughts exactly. Like it might be better for them money wise but when it comes to ppl actually watching the content KZread is gonna be a better option

@blakephotographytexas

2 жыл бұрын

Problem is standard tv is a dying medium. As someone else mentioned, the demographic for this doesn’t watch much tv

@rh7474

2 жыл бұрын

No point and Id rather they not bother. Lots of people on ESPN have openly mocked esports so fuck em.

@omsimsotsab778

2 жыл бұрын

wait what? is TV still a thing?

I think it is similar to what happened to Felipe Massa in F1 when Lewis snatched the title on the last minute. Sentinels never felt the same after that loss with KRU. They got hit so hard that you can think they will never recover.

@jagermain4207

2 жыл бұрын

Is that Glock?!

@TheUpmind

2 жыл бұрын

I wish I thought of that myself, I stopped watching F1, until recently, after that

@bit_ronic

2 жыл бұрын

@@jagermain4207 timo glawks

@josephfong4580

2 жыл бұрын

i think its also why they picked up shroud they needed to make a gamble and this is the gamble they took. its just a jumpstart for them

@vanfrancisco4573

2 жыл бұрын

@@josephfong4580 I really hope that the gamble worth it. All or nothing.

i really want to see them doing well with shroud

@xnovation8009

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget zellsis

@Monkeybreeder

2 жыл бұрын

𓀐𓂸ඞ

@cambon.

2 жыл бұрын

I don't

@SirGrimly

2 жыл бұрын

I think it might take a while (with shroud be rusty on lan play and all) but I think he has the skills need to get the team back into fighting form. Whether they can be world champions again... that is for time to tell :P

@nguyenhongan

2 жыл бұрын

@@SirGrimly yeah dont worry hes just gonna be rusty the second he gets on lan, no practice for him

The Sentinels Era of Valorant was insane but now that all the other teams have seemed to find their footing, SEN seems to be having a hard time adjusting. I still believe that SEN has the potential to become the best team again one day.

@varellsihombing9788

2 жыл бұрын

hopium

@naufalhafiz9614

2 жыл бұрын

We can consider a team having an era when they dominating pro scenes and winning some S-tier competitions in a few years. (For examples : nip, fnatic, astralis at csgo or navi, og at dota 2) Sorry, but calling sentinels having an era just because they only got 1 s-tier is a funny (but dumb at the same time) joke.

@GHLukinator

2 жыл бұрын

@@naufalhafiz9614 well its definetly an Era in comparison to the rest of Valorant, they didn't lose a match for around 8 months, dominating both in NA and world championships. On their championship run they didnt drop a single map. And considering how Valorant has only been out for around 2 years...8 months is a very significant portion. Csgo's case is vastly different as it has been out for so long and the meta is more stable than valorant. Csgo has been out for 10 years, if you put this into the same ratio of Valorant's timeline, it would be equivalently, one team not losing a match for over 3 years. If you were to say any team has had an Era in Valorant it would have to be Sentinels, if you think that Valorant has had no Eras thusfar, then that is your own opinion to have. I am simply pointing out that in Valorant's short history. The time period of Sentinels dominance is something that is memorable and significant for the people who experienced it.

@GHLukinator

2 жыл бұрын

@UCr-kWKBTbURov5Wrs9Hs2tQ an Era doesn't have to be a long time, instead there has to be a resulting change due to the Era. For example the Victorian Era in human history was only about 70 years but during that time alot changed...if you compare this to something like the Bronze Age, lasting around 2000 years. The time maybe considered insignificant in comparison but that doesn't change the fact that so much changed as a result of the Era. The Sentinels Era changed the way teams approached the game which is what led to the teams downfall. If you want to compare it to something more realistic, the modernization of Japan happened during the Meiji Era following the Tokugawa Period. The Meiji Era was not very long, in fact it was less than 50 years but it modernized the country. Many traditions were abolished because they were no longer useful or no longer made sense. While the Era of the Sentinels in Valorant may have not changed Valorant to this extent, it did have notable changes in approaches to the game. Especially in the ways that teams figured out how to beat them. It made Valorant a much more tactical game than before this Era. This is similar to how Japan's new government brought about the abolishion of the Samurai class. They used Western firepower (in this case new agent comps) and new strategies that were specific counters to the old strategies that had been used over hundreds of years, in this case the previous tournaments. Despite the Samurai class attempting multiple rebellions, such as the Satsuma Rebellion, they were eventually abolished, similarly to the Sentinels strategies that were left somewhat in the past because they were no longer viable. Although it can also be argued that, rather than being a result of the Sentinels themselves, this is just a natural progression of the meta changing in the game itself but I still believe that this Era had a significant effect.

@GHLukinator

2 жыл бұрын

In case people were wondering after reading the second comment, the other user had left another comment prior that they have now deleted, to paraphrase they basically had restated that Sentinels only won one international LAN and that they only dominated NA for 8 months. And that is a short period so it cannot be considered an Era.

I feel like everyone on the team needs to take some time reflecting on both themselves and their team. They might not think "it's not about how each of us feel" but I guarantee you at least one member is underperforming precisely because of that.

I can't wait to see my boi shroud playing in tournament again.

@koogee4488

2 жыл бұрын

When is the tournament?

@marlon.8051

2 жыл бұрын

@@koogee4488 no idea the franchising they are trying to do is being a disaster

@Koalagamer-gq5of

2 жыл бұрын

@@koogee4488 AUG 4 OR 2ND

@Er1psa

2 жыл бұрын

@@koogee4488 august 4 or 5 sen vs guard

@dynitix

2 жыл бұрын

@@Er1psa well they are fucked because guard is gonna be their biggest enemy in LCQ i think

SEN just felt like a bunch of high rankers playing regular comp together. Now that the roster has changed, I hope we will also see them change for the better.

@0Adnin

2 жыл бұрын

I felt they are still the same when others worked on coordinated plays. SEN relied on their usual 1v1 plays.

@s0meh0ward3

2 жыл бұрын

The same feeling I've got with old BBL. Just some cracked ranked players not even managing consistent wins on LAN.

The hype around Sentinels got me REALLY into the Valorant pro scene. Then turned out they fell off so hard and I felt like I was hearing a new team every time I tried to watch and it was so confusing. I hope Sentinals can bounce back, rn they kind of a joke

@DomzyDX

2 жыл бұрын

new game, lots of new players entering from cs and other games every day, notably though the guard is made up of valorant exclusive players rather than ex cs pro players. which is possibly why they are Soo effective, it's possible that these teams using CSGO strats in valorant are gonna fall off.

@AangAirB

2 жыл бұрын

@@DomzyDX personally I hope so. I really don't like csgo. The gameplay was fine but the community is horrible, very boomer gate keeping mentality every time I hear about it or try to play it.

@jackbrian4929

Жыл бұрын

@@AangAirB ill be honest this is the first time i ever heard something like this on cs

@AangAirB

Жыл бұрын

@@jackbrian4929 Honestly? Back in 2016/2017 I was getting into gaming more seriously and everyone that mentioned CSGO heavily warned me how toxic and gatekeeping it is. Even teachers that were more chill and talking about gaming, they all agreed the CSGO community is not very welcoming/nice

@rarinth

Жыл бұрын

@@AangAirB would rather be with toxic people than with incels tho

No team stays on top forever doesn't matter if it's eSports or real sports your time on top is never permanent but that doesn't change how impressive their run was when they were on top

@theycallmeupi

2 жыл бұрын

@abdallah youssef you're right, lets see whats gonna happen in lcq..

@seikatsu.

2 жыл бұрын

Astralis

@ig5393

2 жыл бұрын

@abdallah youssef Astralis dominated for 2 years then they never won any big tourneys anymore, same with NiP, they were gods for a year and a half but then they got dethroned by fnatic, never winning anything anymore So what fo you mean about SEN dropping as a t2 team, thats what happened with SEN

@sammybosak10

2 жыл бұрын

In football most top clubs do maintain their top spot for decades.

@JCDentonman

2 жыл бұрын

@@sammybosak10 i mean football is full of filthy mafia and game fixing tho lmao. Good ol ac milan n italian fc

tenz and shahzam going through what they went through in csgo, except that at least they were on top of the world in valorant for once

@itsmerobinyi

2 жыл бұрын

I mean is anyone surprised? Tier 2 cs players eventually turning into tier 2 Valorant players once the competition had time to catch up. Early move advantage is over.

@coltonpatrick4978

2 жыл бұрын

@@itsmerobinyi I wouldn’t call tenz a t2 player

@xxMyNaMeIsBeAsTxx

2 жыл бұрын

@@coltonpatrick4978 For CS, it's very generous ye

@bens4801

2 жыл бұрын

@@coltonpatrick4978 He's called a CS reject for a reason

@aysqi

2 жыл бұрын

@@bens4801 is cs your measurement scale . If that was it then shroud better than yay .

As a SEN fan from the beginning, I believe. To this day I still believe, Sentinels will be back to their glory days.

@seri4832

2 жыл бұрын

They may become one of the contenders like xset cloud9 but its simply impossible to dominate as they did back then when Valorant was much less tactical much less competitive with few mechanically talented players as there are now.

@bubbles13244

2 жыл бұрын

They won't. They relied on their aim, you can't do that now

@123fourfive5

2 жыл бұрын

As a Tsm fan, it's over. Your team fell off. They need a rebuild and major changes to stay competitive. Same with Tsm

@apolloisnotashirt

2 жыл бұрын

@@seri4832 If you don’t mind I would like to ask why? whats so different in valorant today not only on the tournament scene but as well as the competitive scene.

@seri4832

2 жыл бұрын

@@apolloisnotashirt You mean why VALORANT is more tactical than before? Well, that's a common development EVERY competitive game goes through -- people start figuring things out and the pioneers like Sentinels dominance starts to wane out as other teams catch up to them. And as for talented players, that's also the consequence of the game aging. More and more people will play the game and those who have been playing it for the longest time start to figure things out and get better. Both of these lead to a more competitive scene where no one team is vastly ahead of all others. You can see this in CS:GO in the form of NIP.

They all became popular on Twitch and had newfound fame through their initial winning stint. Multiple pro players came out and said that sentinels never scrimmed against anyone, and some even said that they barely practiced.

Adding kanpeki and dropping Zombs just made the whole situation even worst, exited to see what happens in LCQ

@badreddinekasmi8919

2 жыл бұрын

I think it made sense on a morale part. Zombs, based on how he reacted about being benched, seemed pretty toxic. I think Tenz talked about how they started holding grudges when someone under performed and stuff. Kanpeki wasn't a good idea but benching Zombs in my opinion made sense.

@gazingsky7987

2 жыл бұрын

@@badreddinekasmi8919 It doesn't make sense, they benched their core smoke, where most of his smoke helped the team the most. Most smoke players are under appreciated in Valorant, look at other team, their smoke players are always under the radar whereas their teammate get the highlights, especially the top team. You don't see people talking about boaster mostly about his skills, it's mostly about his gimmicks and fun attitude or Optic gaming Marved, you don't see him being in the highlight despite being the smoke for Optic. Zombs was just a scapegoat at this point. Technically Zomb is toxic since the Brazil drama, but what he said about the team not practicing scrims is kinda right. You go nowhere with just streaming and expect to play good without practicing against other top level players. So far Sentinels had done nothing to improve until now where they started bootcamp.

@gabagoo7791

2 жыл бұрын

@@gazingsky7987 no lol zombs was the top 5 worst player in his last tournament he played for SEN. the only other smokes player in the bottom 5 is AYRIN who was and still is new to playing smokes.

@gabagoo7791

2 жыл бұрын

​@@gazingsky7987 boaster is an igl and hes great at finding ways and strats to keep fnatic at the top of the of the world for such a long time, the only other team that has been this consistently good is optic. Marved is a top 3 fragger on optic so no clue what you're saying there, also he had tons of highlights from iceland. zombs is not a scapegoat, he performed horrendously(138 acs LOL) and barely played the game (he showed his act triangles and it wasnt even quarter way full.) you might say that ranked doesnt matter, which is true but we all know SEN doesnt scrim or rarely does, at least TOUCH the game since it's your job.

@gazingsky7987

2 жыл бұрын

@@gabagoo7791 easier to say when even voice comms zombs was told to hold flank but oh well. Sentinels gonna fall .

They won early, when everyone else was still getting used to the game. When everyone actually figured out how to play, they couldn't keep up

@superearth5256

Жыл бұрын

Lol harsh truth 😂

Simple, they quickly put together some very talented people and figured out something that worked (I mean basically it was "create an optimal entry and just have TenZ go nuts") very early in the games competitive scene. But then everyone else worked extremely hard and just got better, Sentinels got a bit complacent, and that's where they are today.

@TheArrowedKnee

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly i got major NIP vibes from Sentinels, got into the game early, found something that worked and then dominated for a while, until everyone figured them out and also otherwise improved

@jackbrian4929

Жыл бұрын

@@TheArrowedKnee tbh nip was better, nip still established their dynasty before falling off, sen just fell off

Sentinels were able to use csgo strats early in valorant and come up with a way to incorporate valorant abilities into their strats which helped them but most of their rounds were won by individual plays rather that advanced strategies. If you hear the comms from VCT of sentinels, most of the time sentinels just have basic ability usage and just running and gunning , pushing through smokes, etc which would catch other teams off guard. However now teams know how to counter Sentinels such as playing slow and holding chokepoints for sentinels to make a mistake by pushing into it as well as having more advanced ability usage and strategies that catches Sentinel off guard.A teams that is similar to Sentinels is Paper Rex with their aggressive playstyle and lurks with great timing but Paper Rex has ability usages that most teams doesn't even know of. Both Paper Rex and sentinel have 1 trait in common which led to them falling off, which is knowing when to be aggressive and when to play passive

@jakelee7083

2 жыл бұрын

Paper Rex is a lot smarter than just "W-key." They understand how to attack their enemy's weakest points, but when the enemy doesn't give them that chance, they start to fail. However, their overall play is still good enough such that playing slow also lets them win. You can see on their Haven defense that they play very carefully and it wins them rounds because the enemy team expects a fast push but it never comes until 10 seconds left in the round.

@johnan06

2 жыл бұрын

@@jakelee7083 Theres a reason why I said they have great timings but if you see the finals, they end up like what happen to sentinels whereby the other team was able to learn from their timings and capitalise on it.PRX also have a habit of rehitting the same site slow after getting an opening pick which maked it predictable too. Their opening picks was some of the times good, but what differentiates a good and a bad team is the ability to win a round consistently with a 5v4 advantage. Against FPX they would have so many rounds that they would have forsaken and jingg duo push and kill a guy and they just kept peeking and dying one after another . FPX also used the same exact strat by holding on bind for MULTIPLE rounds and PRX just kept going aggressive continuously on A showers even after knowing that. D4vai was also solo peeking B long and lost so many rounds on it.

This happens to every team in esports, and there are always different circumstances involved. Sentinels definitely have the means to make a comeback, it's only a matter of time until they get sick of their position and start going to war with the competition. Looking forward to seeing how Shroud performs.

@mindofshinzu

2 жыл бұрын

Im pretty sure this sen roster is going to blow. Shroud is a flashy mechanically gifted player, but that doesnt make him a good pro. I think he had a good reason for leaving the cs pro scene and in val its gonna end up the same in a year or so i believe. This roster wasnt successful bc they are an amazing team, they were successful bc in the beginning stages of a game nobody really knows how to play and every team is essentially kinda bad. I dont think this roster is gonna perform as well as they did back then ever again. Atleast judging from past experiences, looking at their cs careers.

@brokenportals

2 жыл бұрын

@@mindofshinzu That is true. But the recent lcq match they had with the guard showed that the decline is getting to them, which means they'll try harder in future matches. But time will tell. As for Shroud, I'm glad he's competing again, but I didn't expect much either.

From watching some of their greatest plays, it’s seems that they relied on their aim and outaiming the enemy instead of outplaying them. Like peeking enemies that would get them killed very easily but it worked because back then everyone was kinda mid.

Shahz not taking blame for losing when he’s the igl is absolutely repulsive. I don’t think I even need to explain.

@jagoaqasha

2 жыл бұрын

"yOu dONT uNdERStAnd hOW coMPetITivE pRO VaLOraNT wORks"

5:04 "All they had to do was keep winning" Protect this man at all costs

no matter how hard we shit on sentinels deep inside we all want them to do well

@yasminecoad4799

2 жыл бұрын

Facts

@toastbrot2774

2 жыл бұрын

I actually want Tenz to do well. The original members of Sentinels are too arrogant (except Tenz).

@taahirm9958

2 жыл бұрын

@@toastbrot2774 but tenz is so bad at the game.

@s4mm4rtv

2 жыл бұрын

@@taahirm9958 HUH?

@goat7651

2 жыл бұрын

@@toastbrot2774 tenz only sentinel I like lol

This shows that there is so much more things involved than just having the best players in a competitive settings.

i don't know why people criticize players that are miles,light years away from their skills

I know it’s kinda taboo to say, but man I miss watching Sinatra play with these guys and I feel like his play style would compliment Tenz and Shaz as well

@xXXhighrollerx

2 жыл бұрын

Would love to see sinatraa play, but who knows. Some still hold grudges and some moved on from that phase.

@zane875

2 жыл бұрын

fax sinatraas sheer game sense coupled with his unmatched perspicacity made him a feared opponent in the valorant realm

We need a 5-man Sentinels roster with the Sinatraa, Zombz, Sick, and the next two people who get benched

@captainlevi7412

2 жыл бұрын

Kanpeki is benched rn

@massao4273

2 жыл бұрын

Need a coach and better strats, everybody who plays VCT has good aim, the problem is no strats and no adaptation to the meta

its a lack of strats and that their old strats have been turned inside out be damn near every team. they need new strats and adjust to the new metas. i would love to see them win another champs

I like how there are atticles and blogs written about how Sentinels were once awesome and now something went wrong and no one acknowledges how other teams are giving their all to defeat the best out there and become the next best. ❤️🔥 "It's hard to level up when you are already good" as said by All Might.

@seri4832

2 жыл бұрын

Lol Sentibels went 0-5 against t1 teams, no team is seriously trying to take them down buy optic and perhaps become the 2nd seed at least

Literally took Tenz dropping 40 kills on Breeze to take a single map off of LG during their group stages. Effing tragic.

@taahirm9958

2 жыл бұрын

Being consistent on most games > playing good in one game and doing shit in others

Sentinel's are dead, that's what happened. The truth is that they knew how to play the game when no one knew, but now that everyone knows how to play, they can't compete with them.

@ItsJayK24

2 жыл бұрын

i mean youre half right, they were insane when no one was, but they arent dead yet they definitely have a good shot to bounce back

@chucky4894

2 жыл бұрын

when they won people knew how to play the game tf you talking about. the thing there are meta changes and some players adapt better then the other for exemple tenZ never stopped performing unlike most of his team. and the team kept on trying new players including the coach and none worked so they can go back on top of na propably

@amaimon8031

2 жыл бұрын

Classic NA

@amaimon8031

2 жыл бұрын

@@chucky4894 The other teams knew how to play but they were still mastering the game while NA already had a feeling to it, now the other teams caught up and surpassed them like it happens in most esports NA dominates at the start. It all comes down to work ethic which NA has possibly the worst of all regions

@sentientbeing8738

2 жыл бұрын

Correct. Washed up cs go players doing well on a new game thats a rip off of cs go means temporary success.

The overlay was the best with individual player cams

Watching this today, with the current VCT is just sad

Always thought they were overhyped just cause they won one Masters...again not even Champions but Masters.

@siddhartha894

Жыл бұрын

bc they are

@cfl4sh361

Жыл бұрын

It’s literally how it is, but no since they won the first lan (even though they never won anything after that and proceeded to do less and less until they couldn’t even qualify anymore) they are the best team ever apparently. I can’t wait for new SEN tho

@amenbrother777

Жыл бұрын

​@@cfl4sh361where you now?😂 Tenz getting 9-17 in LCQ no champs for 2 years. And now begging for crowdfunding lol. Adhd fans

Signing shroud does absolutely nothing competitively but only create hype. The saddest thing is when they inevitably lose LCQ, the hype would be an all time high that the haters will have a field day

@dynitix

2 жыл бұрын

If you actually didnt know, they didnt pick him just for his skill, theres his big fanbase on twitch and other platforms which also is a reason.

@LshowKnows

2 жыл бұрын

@@dynitix And that's exactly the point most people make about Sens that fans don't wanna acknowledge. Sens became all about branding, they don't simply don't care about competitive play anymore

@EntrEsprit

2 жыл бұрын

yeah, Sentinels will continue to lose but at least they'll satisfy some zoomers with "content" lol

@dynitix

2 жыл бұрын

@@LshowKnows i think they do, but they would need to simply recreate the roster to atleast make it somewhere again. Current roster isnt gonna make it. my predictions are that they are gonna drop tenz and shaz from the pro roster. shaz is just streaming more then actually focusing on pro play. Tenz cant really keep up in pro scene.

am i the only one who does not understand why shazam just only played jett when tenz was their star jett player.

I never supported sentinels but i liked the players.. But now i want sentinels to perform just for Shroud.. I want Shroud's return to be amazing straight away winning a big tournament..

@rhapzodyk541

2 жыл бұрын

Rip

There's a reason these players didn't make it big in Tier 1 CS.

@LuxerionXIII

2 жыл бұрын

savage

@dynitix

2 жыл бұрын

And theres also a reason they made it big in valorant.

@NobuNobuSimp

2 жыл бұрын

@@dynitix For like half a year as everyone else was new to the scene.

@dynitix

2 жыл бұрын

@@NobuNobuSimp they were new to it too

@LshowKnows

2 жыл бұрын

@@dynitix Their competition was old washed up CsGo players, their team was composed of young and overall good aimers. Didn't take much for them to rise early on

When they signed shroud Zellsis crying in the corner while unverified

idk how this will play out, but I am damn sure my bucket of popcorn isn't big enough

Bro I really want the old sentinels back. You can’t lie it would make a good comeback story if they went to win champs. Ik. I am filling up the tanks rn

@squidniss2719

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly tho it would be amazing if they make champs and win it

I think Sentinels being toxic "rumor" didn't spawn out of nowhere. It literally had a starting point when Zombs called an entire region trash. And when they went on to loose to that region, and didnt acknowledge the mistake, they really looked like spoiled brats. Cheeky BM is fine (knifing and t-baging), but this was more then banter. It was elitist, unsportsmanlike, and unprofessional. I was on the Sentinels train until that happen, and failing to mention in this video is doing a disservice to any E-Sports narrative. I'm hoping with these roster changes it will rekindle the old Sentinels I liked watching.

@bla0005551

2 жыл бұрын

people been calling NA trash for years, and zombz doesn't even play anymore

@johnli4905

2 жыл бұрын

They dissed Brazil not latam

@coobk

2 жыл бұрын

cheeky bm like teabagging is fine apparently not OMEGALUL since some one got banned for it

I feel like SEN isn't the only one to fall victim to the early game success trope. Especially within an established niche type of game like Valo that borrows aspects from CSGO. Failure to adapt is one big killer of a lot of pro teams especially as game meta evolves and changes.

A big problem for sentinels is that they probably have the most mechanically talented lineup in val but they lack the coordination and teamwork (mostly because they dont really do much practicing i guess) while other teams are focusing on more utility and strats instead of pure outaiming. Before they won because their meta worked when most teams werent fully developed into the valorant scene. Right now, sentinels have bigger numbers but they are adding them instead of other teams with smaller number but multiplying them.(10+10+10+10+10 instead of other teams 8x8x8x8x8) If SEN finds a way to multiply those numbers, they could get back up there. Or I could be completely wrong.

i didn't get the SEN hype even after the first VCT. It felt like they lust relied on there individual strenghts. After that, all teams improved their game and that's what SEN was lacking so far. They were NOT able to adapt and relying on a single Player, is not the way to go in professional e-sports. We will see how LCQ is going for them, i have not that much believe in them, even tho i would really like to see the comeback of the kings from first VCT.

Sentinels only won because Valorant was a new E-sport game at that time therefore there are no other competitors that are like this current day. After 1 -2 years they can’t even qualify in their own respective region. EU is starting to dominate again this FPS game just like CSGO, not to mention the Asia region and South America region are getting more recognition on how great they are with FPS. Remember, most Sentinels member are washed up CSGO pro players that can’t compete well in CSGO, with the exception of Sinatraa who was a Overwatch champion before Valorant.

0:44 dapr reacted before even dying

Yes sentinels definitely knew something that others did back then in the early days of the game, especially because they were some of the first pros in the game, like tenz was the first NA radiant. But after time more people learned the game and learned the strats. When everyone has the same amount of knowledge and skill it just comes down to luck,mood,map and things like that

Can we please just stop calling it the "Sentinels-era"!? Winning one international tournament doesn't qualify anything remotely to an "era". I know all the NA Fans had high hopes but seriously, this "era" is so insanely overhyped, it's getting annoying.

@0Adnin

2 жыл бұрын

Yes....They think Liquid had an era in csgo because they won Grand slam. But rip liquid era.... summer 2019 - summer 2019

@egonzz5494

2 жыл бұрын

its probably because they were extremely dominant (dont quote me on that) for the first half of 2021 from regionals to internationals, which considering the age of the game itself was a pretty big timespan unlike csgos HUGE history, just guessing tho idk

@MrHonolulu

2 жыл бұрын

@@0Adnin At least they won 4 high profile tournaments to get the Grand Slam, that's not nothing, but yeah thats not an era either

@MrHonolulu

2 жыл бұрын

@@egonzz5494 I mean yeah cool for them that they were good in the first rounds of the game, but definitely not era worthy.

@LshowKnows

2 жыл бұрын

@@0Adnin Yeah, it's not even just about winning every tournament in a row, it's simply dominating the game after winning an important event, changing the way other teams play. Astralis made an impact in the utility usage, Navi is a monster of a team that never drops from the top even after swapping players, Faze is showing how much impact an amazing IGL has. It hurts my brain seeing people compare Sens to NiP just because both were the best at the beginning of the game. It ain't the same, Sens were dethroned instantly after raising to the top, they barely held their place and now lose to low tier teams. NiP remained one of the best teams for a long ass time, they won several tournaments, comparing them to Sens is simply showing zero knowledge of how legendary NiP were.

that's the thing about hitting rock bottom, there's nowhere else left to go but up! Hope they get redeemed, and when they do it'll be one of the best comeback stories in valorant!

@shallter455

2 жыл бұрын

They aren't rock bottom they could easily drop to tier 2 or 3

the whole intro felt like i was watching a movie trailer

lot of questions to be asked like is tenz choking again? does shaz lose control of his team when pressured?

I Miss Sick.

@kraihyel

2 жыл бұрын

he'll be back eventually hopefully

@nirajtimalsena6036

2 жыл бұрын

lets hope

@gbhrd7385

2 жыл бұрын

True

I mainly, played Dota 2 a few years ago and now I play Valorant, Sentinels is like what NaVi was in the Dota 2 scene. They were also the 1st international champions, but then in subsequent years, while still performing quite well, ultimately failed to perform how they did at the start. There would be some glimmers of hope here and there but they never reached the peak like they once did. Valorant is still young though and years haven't gone by so we'll still see how Sentinels and the rest of the pro scene will play out.

11:28 EXPLAINS EVERYTHING.

"Zombs, one of the best controller players in the game" Yep... We saw all his skill after Astra nerfs

I feel like shrouds competitive experience and mindset will be incredibly helpful for sentinels.

@SnipingStandards

2 жыл бұрын

experience alone will be valuable for them

@HeyCharlieBall

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like sentinels won more titles than shroud did when he was under C9.

@eclipse1161

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think Shroud has any more experience in a competitive scene than his teammates. He only played around 3 years of T1 csgo.

@kenszy1245

2 жыл бұрын

@@HeyCharlieBall shroud had teams aside c9

@round7924

2 жыл бұрын

@@kenszy1245 in csgo, no. On HLTV, the only team that shroud has been in for csgo was cloud9 from 2014-2017. He also only has one achievement which was a trophy at ESL Pro League Season 4.

i love how they show the clips of them being confident before champs, only to immediately show them being mowed down in their last ever international round, as if to say "they were confident, and then *that happened.",* they don't even mention kru by name as if they were the ones who shall not be named lmao

Ah yes, the classic “NA early domination” phenomenon that has appeared in other competitive games before and has never failed to dwindle.

I will die on this Hill, Shaz is an amazing player but he doest have what it takes to IGL anymore. I really think they neeed a new IGL for the team because Shaz strategies just don't hit any more. He is pretty much still using Act 1 mindset to form his game plan for the team.

13:06 shaz.. its due to the fact that you think not streaming for ONE week is sacrificing anything. 90% of players who win a world championship will never stream until they retire. Or they hop on stream like twice a month. People get mad because Shazam ACTS like he's a hard worker when he's not. That's fine if you wanna be a pro and streamer but you're not going to be a world champion.

@SameemMalik

2 жыл бұрын

How can you say he is not hardworking when you literally don't know anything about their daily routines? And saying"90%" world champions don't stream until they retire? What kind of bullshit is that? Forsaken, benkai, nats, aspas etc they all stream regularly and yet are still considered hard working.

@trippin5619

2 жыл бұрын

@@SameemMalik well most of his daily routine is ranked. Hes almost always live playing ranked instead of being an igl and getting his strats ready. Sen fell off cause raw talent doesnt work anymore. The valo pro scene evolved to a more strategic game and Sen and especially Shaz never tried to keep up.

@SameemMalik

2 жыл бұрын

@@trippin5619 But he did say that he only streams after they are done with the practice completely for the day. And talking about strats , it isn't his fault. Other orgs had way better coaching staff and a proper system while sentinels only had shahz so of course they were not gonna be able to keep up.

@trippin5619

2 жыл бұрын

@@SameemMalik its not only that. First of all if Sen wanted to keep up they had to look for staff and thats also an igl's job. Second of all Sen didnt even come close to the intensity and hours of practise of other teams. Almost every other top team from different regions worked way way harder and you can tell by looking at the games. Other teams have more variety in strats, more synergy more everything and less hours on twitch. You cant be top of the world and a twitch showpony at the same time. I liked Sen at first but their low effort in the pro scene is what made me dislike them

@SameemMalik

2 жыл бұрын

@@trippin5619 Again that is on the org. I remember all the players in sentinels were talking about trying to get a coach for the longest time but somehow couldn't idk the reasons. The team should have manager and a system around them, and that is not Shahzam's job at all. It's on the org itself. Look at 100T for example the staff they got is not because of their igl or anything it's because the org has a system while Sentinels don't.

You cant always be on top when the meta changes every tournament and the agents keep power creeping the game

have you seen how clean FPX play off each other the last masters. EU/CIS will always have teams on top of almost every eSports they care about because their people have the best dedication, strats, teamwork and mentality. working hard playing on estabilished meta in public match is not working hard it's just playing the game. able to shoot heads means nothing if players kept making mistakes here and there. it takes superstars playing on duelists or other fragging agents to brought other region to the top. right now, NA have yay, APAC have jinggg and f0rsaken but firepower just won't cut it when EU/CIS teams are playing like a single organism.

Sentinels made me love Valorant as much as I do today. I still have a lot of hope for them🤞🏾

they need the legendary Jay "Best Player in NA" Won to win...

They had too many young talents and not enough experience. Bringing shroud in gives them an amazing shot, ShahZam and shroud both have that experience and game sense that's just on another level compared to kanpeki, zombs, and sick. Not calling them bad players, but they aren't as refined when you compare them to teams like Optic. With FNS and yay both came from cs and have gamesense on another level.

@karlsefnithorfinn

2 жыл бұрын

But tenz and sick both are coming from CS LMAO. Sick has been around on CS since a long time judging by his liquidpedia page. Saying sick lacked experience just sound so wrong to me.

@phunki1696

2 жыл бұрын

@@karlsefnithorfinn sick was a tier 2 tier 3 na cs player for years.

@karlsefnithorfinn

2 жыл бұрын

@@phunki1696 and yay wasn't? Dude sick and yay both compete since idk 2014/2015? and both of them can never get into tier 1 scene on CS. No disrespect both of them tho, they are beast on val.

do you guys know when LCQ starts? So excited to watch it ngl lol

their flame will never burn out it just needs that spark to start it up again

TSM also had a similar fall from grace, followed by fans calling them out for streaming too much. They restructured, moved immediately to Texas for bootcamp and kicked the non dedicated players and ended up improving a huge amount. Sentinels are now bootcamping but I have a feeling that as long as the continue to play around tenz and shahz they won’t be able to create meaningful team play and improve. Zellsis is a great pickup in my opinion though.

sentinels were never "ahead of the competition" they just had great talents (tenz) and back then that was all you needed, what happend is that every team strategically cought up and now talents are good but what makes you win is teamplay and proper strats not just individual play

@dec1085

2 жыл бұрын

You literally just said they were ahead of the competition

@H4Ck3rq

2 жыл бұрын

@@dec1085 yeah exact;y😂😂

Tenz might end up like GetRight, never winning again but the community will always love them

@LshowKnows

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha... Nope

@decencysins7801

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha... Yes

Lol they really thunk that four washed up/retired CS players and one fake prodigy who struggled to play a team game, can really hold up to that no.1 spot.

Sentinels Is The Most OVERRATED Team of All Time In Esports No Cap

@nauikunart

2 жыл бұрын

i want them to do well but this is legit

2years after the beginning they finally did a bootcamp. They always stream everyday how can you play as a team and do strats like that

I have been there. I was part of a CoD 2 roaster. I carried my team to The Grand Final of a tournament we participated in.. we didn't loss a single map till final. All the games were crazy close depsite I dropping 46 kills in a 15 mins map with only 6 deaths. In the final the team anti strated me and we lost the final 3 - 0. They played two awpers one to die to me and the other to trade me. I still dropped 36 kills but i died 20 times in the first map and we lost very badly in the first map and I tilted 😥😥 So I can understand what Tenz feels

Haven’t kept up with sentinels since their championship but this was to be expected

They need Sinatraa Period

They just need Sinatraa

The loss to kru was their breaking point imo.

Kind of like OG in Dota 2. They won 2 times now everyone expects them to win every single time

I want sentinels and ascend to come back since they are considered fallen gods. Gon be epic if they come back

@8a6homet-beightysix60

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine their the grand finals

"Champions can lose, Gods can bleed to"

Just wait until we get the "Rise, Fall and Rise again of Sentinels" video in our feeds.

Should've called a tech pause XD

What happened to Sentinels? Well what almost everyone saw coming. They were good in an early stage of the pro scene where the pro scene was still developing at its fastest. After the great succes everything looked great but teams caught up really quick cause of the difference in drive. Other teams especially from different regions trained more serious and harder so it shouldnt be such a surprise that Sen was surpassed so easily and quick. Stream over scrim is what made them fall of. Its purely their mentality cause they have the skill to be one of the top teams. But in order to be that they need to become less of a twitch showpony.

"tenz has to be playing in god form for this team to have a chance" just says how good he is that he can carry his team alone

@seri4832

2 жыл бұрын

There was only one time though lol, and to have a chance isn't necessarily carrying; it's when winning solely due to your brilliance You can only very rarely do that in today's meta which has spawned talents as good as tenz if not better

@taahirm9958

2 жыл бұрын

Lol, tenz is so inconsistent. He just did good in 1 map and others he was shit

@drshitter2183

2 жыл бұрын

@@taahirm9958 tenz has been playing consistently, this meta is the only time he's been playing shit, he was literally screwing everyone off when he arrived at sentinels

@drshitter2183

2 жыл бұрын

@@seri4832 I forgot to mention how he also shitted on fnatic everytime they meet

@seri4832

2 жыл бұрын

@@drshitter2183 Lol, so? I am no FNATIC fan, unfortunately. In the past, that he did. However, every team is vastly enhanced compared to the past in terms of teamplay and individual skills. And in this more competitive environment TenZ scored a total of jaw-dropping 2 kills (1 more than the skye dog) against Cloud9 which isn't even top 2 in NA.

In game, it's just normal that there was a year that was not meant for a known team, just for the matter of fact that there are so many promising team surrounds in valorant eSports. I personally love sentinels, and this lost doesn't lose my faith to them.

There is a post on Twitter saying that Shroud has stepped down from the roster due to concerning actions from teammates such as Shahzam screaming, Tenz streaming scrims, and Zellis playing shirtless.

Sen has insane solo skill players. They make a shit ton of money without even winning, and their fan base hasn’t dropped despite their losses. The truth of the matter is they aren’t trying. They aren’t changing their strats, they aren’t studying other teams. All this is to them is a game, while other teams are treating it like a professional sport. If they really wanted to win, I don’t doubt they’d be top contenders.

@Strohseph

2 жыл бұрын

Really? You think they aren't trying to be the best? What do you think they are doing exactly? You are naive if you really think they aren't putting in the effort when they're competing at the highest level. It's a career for all of the, not just a game to them.

@ascend4252

2 жыл бұрын

back those accusations up atleast

@5000Seabass

2 жыл бұрын

@@Strohseph I know they aren’t trying because I’ve played with the fucking guys on multiple occasions. Their mechanical skill is insane, but they don’t go out of their comfort zone. They don’t care dude. It’s obvious because if they put the same amount of effort in as other teams they would still be considered dominant in tournaments. Don’t fucking @ me again with retarded shit like this. These guys are insanely good, they just don’t care.

@5000Seabass

2 жыл бұрын

@@ascend4252 I didn’t make “accusations”. I love Sentinels, Shahzam is one of my favorite all time players. The truth is that even if you claim they want this, sure, fucking anyone would like to win a championship. But they weren’t taking the necessary actions to win. That “Sen doesn’t scrimm” thing wasn’t a meme, it was the literal truth. I know they play the fucking game. I play Valorant too. But they have to do more than just play the game more than the average player. They have a team. They need to make their own plays and strategies, learn agents for maps to counter other team’s dominant plays. They have to learn to change their strategy each round instead of defaulting to their very obvious comfort set ups when something goes wrong. They’re easy to read because they haven’t changed a fucking thing since they won the first time around. It’s not hard, use your lil noggin.

When a company is failing, look to the manager. When a team is failing, look to the IGL.

@jjthejjetplane

2 жыл бұрын

Yes because the igl gave tenz covid, caused sicks family emergency, and neglected to give the players any sort of support staff unlike literally every other org. Dumb take.

@elle8102

2 жыл бұрын

@@jjthejjetplane meh, to each his own opinion

Zellsis was a really good addition to the team and they looked good at the lcq, waiting what they have to offer next year, hope they will buy out zelsis tho

Everybody just caught up to them they became champions when the game is still starting. It's just that teams are constantly evolving.

NA valo was full of washed cs go pro players that were good but not good enough to succeed on the game so they went on a new game with similar characteristics and rolled kids until the kids learned how to play better than the washed oldheads

@uresfffff222

2 жыл бұрын

csgo has nothing to do with this game so cry more

@cliffdraco1771

2 жыл бұрын

@@uresfffff222 i mean the point of washed cs players is semi true tho Shazham, tenz and now shroud these are players who never would dominate or show prowess in tier 1 i dont think theyre "washed" cs players but theyre definitely not the best of cs pros purely stats

@user-nq6bq1fk6q

2 жыл бұрын

@@uresfffff222 He aint wrong tho

@lelman3920

2 жыл бұрын

@@uresfffff222 are you delusional ? half of the valorant pro playerbase consist of tier 2 csgo players

@rishi_1003

2 жыл бұрын

@@uresfffff222 CSGO has everything to do with this game. In fact half the devs on Valo are old devs of CS, for example, Volcano