FINALLY The only video on this topic was by Butterface AKA Content Farm and baby I wasn’t gonna give them my views I’m glad you took the mantle bro proud of your growth

@WCYUM

2 жыл бұрын

Wait what’s wrong with butterface?

@JunniorStarLight

2 жыл бұрын

@@WCYUM it a Content Farm channel masquerading as one quirky individual, which steal the thunder of smol Drag Channels who don’t have those resources, the Channel is part of the Anna Oop conglomerate and their goal is to dish out content as fast as possible with zero regard for quality which caused them to be caught stealing edited footage from another Drag content creator for a quick buck, be careful with content farms yo

@graffic13

2 жыл бұрын

Just wish the photo of Santino you were using was the one of him in the gold speedo🤣🤣🤣 This pink shirt photo sucks

@larahedge8960

2 жыл бұрын

@@JunniorStarLight oh Damn I had no idea, all this time I thought it was a real person. Thanks for the info

@Okaburo

2 жыл бұрын

@@JunniorStarLight Thank you for taking the time to explain, i didn't know either & now am full glad i do, will make sure i double check

Carson's reaction to Violets iconic tartan reveal solidified him as a permanent judge

@everydy

Жыл бұрын

That visual lives in my mind, rent free 😭🤣🤣🤣

I think that the addition of Carson to the show was a major positive. Some of his jokes may be lame, but he is kind and encouraging to the contestants while providing constructive criticism. Santino was never really my favorite and seeing Carson, who has a long history of both fashion and reality tv under his belt, replace him was a positive. At least in my opinion.

@zag285

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I absolutely adore Carson

@WhoCares3001

2 жыл бұрын

Carson is just so much fun!

@Hunter-ib9ks

2 жыл бұрын

love Carson and Ross so much

@ChrisA2

2 жыл бұрын

We love Carson and Ross but Santino improved contestants with his straight to the point advice.

@joejoe5673

2 жыл бұрын

Carson and Ross funny af!!

I love that you used the Jackie Cox image of Michelle lol

@kaetispannbauer9082

2 жыл бұрын

I giggled every time lol

@joshuablauvelt9662

2 жыл бұрын

Ok, good, it wasn't just me thinking "ummmm...that's not Michelle..."

@jennyjupiter

10 ай бұрын

Should have used DeLa lol

@secundaludghens9649

9 ай бұрын

Love the shade

@icecream_marchesa9216

5 ай бұрын

I was like: "Wait a minute..." lol

I really miss Merle, she seemed both knowledgable and genuinely nice and trying to uplift the queens even if they bombed without sounding fake, also her more subtle demeanor would be a real breath of fresh air in a panel full of personalities trying so hard to be funny/relatable/filled with gay sex jokes

@ezequielmca4385

2 жыл бұрын

Merle is a well-educated and classy lady. That's why Rupaul chose her in the first place. I find that the show became more and more trashy the last years.

@ggoddf5889

2 жыл бұрын

true

@kyleenglot9184

2 жыл бұрын

Merle was a stand in for Michelle. Ru wanted Michelle from the beginning, but Michelle had a contract to fulfill that would make her unavailable for the first 2 seasons.

@musterinamusterfrau

2 жыл бұрын

gay sex jokes? on my Drag Race? the power of Joey Jay

@clsisman

Жыл бұрын

Yeah why can’t we have Merle AND Michelle?

5:18 sitting here listening to Santino talk about drinking unfiltered woods water to cure illnesses while I have a parasite in my stomach from drinking contaminated water. Priceless.

@taxfrauddotcom

Жыл бұрын

I hope your stomach is feeling better omg

@patgal2359

11 ай бұрын

Sorry that happened to you. My friend constantly drinks spring water from the ground and you just cant tell her qbout things like cholera and typhoid. Or parasites.

@caitthecat

3 ай бұрын

Just checking in -- you still alive? Please say yes 🙏

Legit love and miss Merle. I love Michelle, but Merle brought something to the table, regarding the current trends in pop culture. She understood fashion and what would/wouldn’t run in Vogue. She was brilliant.

@djscarlet169

2 жыл бұрын

i miss her too, she always brought some to genuine joy

@alorockss

2 жыл бұрын

I think both would be good as permanent judges. Because Merle knows fashion, magazine fashion, high fashion and street fashion, and Michelle knows drag, drag culture and drag fashion.

@mjm3091

2 жыл бұрын

I genuinely feel we could have her, Ross and Carlson on rotation and we would be just fine. Or have her as fifth judge every other episode. Like the Merle episode on season 7 is literally my favourite episode of that season aside whole Untucked.

@mirkozanda

2 жыл бұрын

@@mjm3091 can probably remove Carlson too

@mjm3091

2 жыл бұрын

@@mirkozanda I mean I would also cut Ross for his not hilarious jokes. But then again both of them do give sometimes a lot of good advice and help to the queens.

Re: the sewing machine issue. As a professional, I can confirm that those Singer models are bottom barrel cheapy-cheap. At best, they are good for hemming slacks and making pillows, not for construction of wearable garments. I don't agree with a lot of what Santino says, but he was right about this one.

@williamgatesenson

2 жыл бұрын

it's bullshit that they do this. we know 100% the show can afford better machines, but they consciously choose not to provide them. one of the biggest things I hate about reality TV shows is when they feel the need to manufacture drama. this shit is stressful enough already! the queens are plenty good at serving up drama on their own! theres no tea in watching someone struggle to make a wedding dress in 8 hours using a $150 sewing machine. i'd rather see them fail because their look just wasnt well thought out, rather than because their seams are all fucked up.

@GirtheAlienGoldfish

2 жыл бұрын

@@williamgatesenson There are a lot of decent and inexpensive sewing machines that they could have sprung for.

@caitthecat

3 ай бұрын

​@@GirtheAlienGoldfishPlease recommend me some.

Another missing person I still wonder about is Mike Ruiz, the photographer for the first seasons. Idk if it grants a whole video but I've been curious about his disappearence for a long time

@pleasestopmelovingmyself8410

2 жыл бұрын

omg same i recently rewatched the first few seasons and i wonder what happened to him

@Waffle-tv7rg

2 жыл бұрын

Haha I saw him on Scruff recently and he woofed back at me. He’s gotten into extreme bodybuilding….he’s like all veins and muscle now which is kinda gross, but hey he’s happy.

@pablobotello4673

2 жыл бұрын

@@Waffle-tv7rg I wish he could woof me 🤤

@christianduarte1351

2 жыл бұрын

@@Waffle-tv7rg that’s hot, I always thought he was cute. He prob looks better now imo

@rahsaankirton8737

2 жыл бұрын

He’s like a twitter porn model now on twitter I think

I'm not surprised that the production purposefully provides wonky sewing machines so that it makes it more difficult for the queens to succeed. I mean in season 7 episode 1 all the sewing machines were broken and JASMINE MASTERS of all people was the one to fix all of them. I'm glad Santino is at least honest and able to call that part out, because I was wondered why even queens who knew how to sew were not delivering very good garments, or at least not as good as you'd expect from their experience.

@gaysanatomy9466

2 жыл бұрын

Why “of all people” lol

@willpwr43

2 жыл бұрын

@@gaysanatomy9466 Right...

@indica666_

2 жыл бұрын

You stole this from someone else trying to be fake woke lol

@AliMarie022

2 жыл бұрын

They use the Singer Heavy Duty 4423 on the show- i sew for a living and have had that machine, hoping itd be great for my denim work. It was a clunky piece of crap that i gave up on after a month. The tension on it was awful from the start and sews heavy duty fabrics badly but was awwwful on light fabrics, like the kind youd make a gown out of. I am amazed they have any luck with those machines at all.

@frumiousbandersnatch

2 жыл бұрын

"I'm Jasmine Masters, and I've got something to sew."

Making the queens use those cheap sewing machines to create storylines and drama is just trifling.

@stache1954

2 жыл бұрын

Plus they have to sew standing up. Who does that?

I’m so happy we have Carson and Ross as judges. Their positivity is so humbling and they’re honest without being demeaning or humiliating. Both of them are such sweeties 💗

Many of us were present during Lucian's meltdown. Drag race fans would flood his lives & IG posts with comments poking and triggering him to go off even more. He got naked once or twice on live, and would post feet pics as he saw it caused more commotion in the comments. At one point his sister was commenting begging people to stop giving him attention, but he cut them off too for a while. I'm glad that era is finally done. I know what he said was awful, but we can't turn our backs on members of our community in need

@giggles7179

2 жыл бұрын

Sigh. Merely further evidence that "RuPaul's Drag Race" boasts the most toxic fan base this side of "Star Wars."

@emotionallyinvestful

Жыл бұрын

If they are denying the Holocaust and being actively racist, yes, we certainly can and SHOULD turn out backs on them. Our community has a problem with letting racism slide and it needs to stop.

@tristan3298

Жыл бұрын

@@giggles7179 Yea no shit. What do you think happens when a franchise picks up multiple millions of fans.

@moppupaws

Жыл бұрын

@@tristan3298 why so aggressive

@hotsexyangel

Жыл бұрын

@@tristan3298 yikes calm down Tristan. That was their initial point.

I had such a huge crush on Lucian back then, he then went downhill mentally and was hustling for coins in the streets, sad and scary..

@Stefanbites85

2 жыл бұрын

I met him in LA and we had sex. He wasn't that special .

@impopquiz

2 жыл бұрын

Really???? 😱

@Wft-bu5zc

Жыл бұрын

I always thought he was kind of odd, even on the show

watching what happened to lucian was insane when it was all going down on instagram

@Xinphix

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I’m surprised that didn’t make the video

@YipTupy

2 жыл бұрын

if you have tea, you must spill!

@PugginNThuggin

2 жыл бұрын

@@YipTupy there’s no tea, he would go live on Instagram clearly not doing wel and harassing civilians and saying crazy things and begging for money. At one point on live these two guys forced their way into his hotel room and threw his phone in the pool. It was scary

@fionagallagherapologist5968

2 жыл бұрын

@@PugginNThuggin oh my god ??

I hate Santino's anti-vax and pseudo-scientific propaganda but goddamn if he wasn't a messy and entertaining judge (if a bit harsh at times). I will never forget how Adore said he's "hot from certain angles." 😭

@WillSing4TP

2 жыл бұрын

And he totally was hot from certain angles! 😂 I alternated from crushing to abhorring him. Then he turned into this anti-vax wanker. 😝

@sdrrshock5594

2 жыл бұрын

The covid vax was and is bad!

@grazmsp2473

2 жыл бұрын

Im not one of those crazy christians, but I sort of agree with Santino on the anti vax ideology. The vaccine is great, lowering deaths to almost zero, but I will never forget how they portrayed the vaccine as ’take this and you will be immune and fully protected’ when the vaccine barely gave any protection from the virus, only lethal symptoms.

@grazmsp2473

2 жыл бұрын

”Take the vaccine and the pandemic will be over” when it clearly didn’t work and getting witchhunted for not relying on the vaccine.

@thequinnth3912

Жыл бұрын

he is tho, i somehow get it.

The quality of Lucian work is one of the main reasons RPDR rising to fame. I hope he’s getting better.

back in the day, I want to say around 2017 me and a few drag race fan mutuals were in a groupchat on messenger. Somebody added Lucian to the chat and then he called the chat, called us all the n word with the hard r then hung up. I know this sounds like one of those “Demi lovato called me fat and punched me when I asked for a pic” but it’s not lmao

@jorgezamora8895

Жыл бұрын

Sorry but the “flicked my vagina” reference? 💀💀💀

Using the photo of Jackie Cox as a standin for Michelle kills me lol

IMO Lucian's music for Drag Race is better than anything that has come after.

@DsaherGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you all the songs are iconic, the ones now are forgettable.

@lethaldream50

2 жыл бұрын

not to say some of his music wasnt iconic but ive been watching since s1 and the moulin rouge musical from this years season is my personal favorite one so far i think. and i think both lucian and whoever replaced him both had their hits and misses. like theres a ton of rupaul songs from lucian era im obsessed with, but there isnt such a thing as a whole rupaul album i can listen to back to back from any era. also i actually liked 'lucky' because it's annoyingly catchy, like it's noooot the best song ever and definitely has no longevity but it's one of those songs that you get stuck in your head and you cant decide if "i hate it here" or "actually imma listen to this on repeat for the next 6 hours"

@LeoGouveia

8 ай бұрын

Many great musical achievements by Ru involve Lucian, such as Sissy That Walk, Glamazon, Cover Girl, The Beginning, Jealous of My Boogie, Champion, Superstar, and Born Naked. I think most of her top 10 hits were composed with Lucian.

@pambinobequeno5062

5 ай бұрын

​@@LeoGouveia too bad he ruined his own career and his life by being a drug addict, so it's on him

Alyssa Edwards thanks you for choosing this straightphobic picture of Santino for the thumbnail. Dude is weird and mean

@majelalover8837

2 жыл бұрын

he's a cringe god

@jinx8238

2 жыл бұрын

isnt he bi?

@gc7725

2 жыл бұрын

If the use of "straight" is meant to refer to Santino, Santino is bisexual. :^P

@lisafranklin9089

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Things can't be that bad between Ru and Santino because Ru still mentions Santino, albeit as a punchline, but still gets mentioned. The most recent example being just from this past season, season 14, when Maddy Morphosis found Santinos' hat in the tic tac pool. Because as we all know, no matter how iconic, popular or successful a queen is or has become, if they cross Ru in anyway, they are dead to World of Wonder as a whole, like Delta, Willam, James, etc.

@inventions178

2 жыл бұрын

I mean to be fair Willam actually isnt that dead to WOW

@dudeitsdwise

2 жыл бұрын

@@inventions178 how so?

@scriberothchild5335

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think Willam needs anybody to be remain a star because he just is

@artsydude8900

2 жыл бұрын

James?

@dudeitsdwise

2 жыл бұрын

@@artsydude8900 Previously known as Tyra Sanchez

I always felt so sorry for Lucian, sad story. Really shows how things can change for the worse.

@IsenhourPig

2 жыл бұрын

Sad that people are still making videos about someone else’s mental breakdown.

@cezartb

2 жыл бұрын

@@IsenhourPig He had a mental breakdown after addiction issues.

@stache1954

2 жыл бұрын

@@cezartb ^ This. Too many drugs.

@L-mo

2 жыл бұрын

“There seems to be no prospect of him ever having a flourishing career ever again _and rightfully so_ “ there’s sympathy for you!

@loretabrunton3918

2 жыл бұрын

@@L-mo They meant that in regards to his antisemitism and racism. Meaning they don't believe someone showing this type of hate, even during really difficult times in their life, deserve any level of fame or influence. Whether it's right or wrong is not my place to tell, but he sure got cancelled.

I had a huge crush on Lucian and seeing this really made me so sad, he always seemed so focused and put together, I hope he’ll get better very soon:(

@pambinobequeno5062

5 ай бұрын

i hope not, he deserves to rot in hell for what he said

@turkiedurkie4895

5 ай бұрын

@@pambinobequeno5062 you’ll learn to let that old crap go one day sis. I mean you can still be the better person by offering some sympathy. You weren’t personally affected to the core(I wouldn’t think) ..drama fades sympathy is forever. Said no one 😂but yeah this mindset is very unhealthy

Gutted to hear about Lucians downfall :( he always came across so focused and talented and I had a huge crush on him. I really hope he is in a better place ❤️

Please make ‘What Happened to Mike Ruiz and Jeffrey Moran? I want to know!

@LexTheSteeler

2 жыл бұрын

This. We need this.

@Giovannni

2 жыл бұрын

Seeing Mike Ruiz's Instagram i think he's doing great. He's a high fashion photographer

@MooiMeissje

2 жыл бұрын

Jeffrey Moran was the vodka guy right ?

@l.b.2592

2 жыл бұрын

@@MooiMeissje I think he left when Absolut stopped sponsoring DragRace when it was on Logo (?)

@elizabethjohnson6386

2 жыл бұрын

Idk why Moran would stay when he's got no dog in the fight

I love how Jackie stands for Michelle, it's so lovely

I'm sorry but that photo of Santino in the thumbnail is killing me!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

“By season 3 Merle would be replaced by Michelle Visage” Proceeds to show Jackie Cox as Michelle 💀😂💀

I remember listening to Michelle’s book, The Diva Rules, and she mentions not being able to do seasons 1 and 2 not only because of contractual commitments, but because she went to her boss and asked permission and the particular boss didn’t think the show would “reflect good on them” if she did it … the boss in question sounded … dodgy😑😤

@mjm3091

2 жыл бұрын

She also spoke about it on few occasions and interviews before.

@RNCHFND

2 жыл бұрын

I've heard about this before

@timemonkey

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that same boss refused to let her do it and then asked her to try and get Rupaul to do an event for them.

@chrissyswoo

2 жыл бұрын

@@timemonkey 😂😂

@wwirelesswwizard

Жыл бұрын

I saw the episode of Game Grumps where Michelle and her daughter were guests; she explained that her radio boss was homophobic, so she ended up going over his head to a higher-up to explain the situation. Once they heard about it, they fired him, lol.

As a therapist, I really adore how so many people feel empathy towards Lucian. Poverty makes sick and it shows with him. However, I also see the point as to racism is NEVER excusable and he should show remorse. Therefore, as far as I am concerned as a human being and as a mental health care worker, I feel like we should let the door be opened for him but stand firm and show him that his behavior is not okay and he needs to do a turn-around for us to forgive him. Remember folks, forgiveness comes from giving, not from taking. :)

@stefanzeh4887

2 жыл бұрын

add: and of course his favoritism of Trump also was not really adressed by his apologies, am I correct?

@Ichigo-zg8jq

2 жыл бұрын

I do agree but ill will Understand if Rupaul never did take him back as a friend or a worker because at the end of the day Lucian Did call him a racial slur and A Holocaust denier which in Hollywood those type of things is career suicide so in that sense. He apologise Ru but I will understand if Rupaul NEVER took him back. when you call a black person the N word with the hard R, that is a sign of hate cause I have witnesses others people use this word on POC with no remorse especially when they are in the wrong. Honestly I think their better off but if world I wonder what to take him back I mean that’s good on them at the end of the day.

@Ichigo-zg8jq

2 жыл бұрын

@@stefanzeh4887 you are right but His wanting to be a trump supporter has nothing to do with his mental health. if that’s his political view then that’s on him at the end of the day.

@a.alphonso6193

2 жыл бұрын

oh yes here comes the white gay to tell us to forgive everyone and have empathy. piss off lmao

@ggoddf5889

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ichigo-zg8jq true

Also, not that I want to kick the guy when he's down, but GreenGay also didn't mention the Piane's Sept 2021 arrest where he was arrested for vandalism and starting singing some rendition of "Over the Rainbow". The main news there being TMZ (being TMZ) regrettably posted the video which helps no one.

Sitting patiently for someone to explain Maddy finding santinos hat in that vat of tictacs

@MylingCyrus

2 жыл бұрын

PLEASE IM BEGGING

Is no-one going to talk about Santino's friction with Michelle? There are a lot of moments that are tense, (like when Michelle says whatever she says santino says the opposite). I always thought that conflict had something to do with it

Tim Gunn would be a wonderful judge on RPDR. However I believe he has an exclusive contract with Amazon for his series with Heidi.

@antoinettemaraisgauthier

2 жыл бұрын

omg tim gunn would be AMAZING for drag race!!

As someone with arthritis, the pain and inflammation flares and reduces at random intervals. Perhaps some of the dietary changes did help but his arthritis was probably just not flaring. Also, arthritis is degenerative. His diagnosis is fairly new (5/6 years) and it will get worse with time- speaking from experience. If he doesn't treat it, he will really struggle in the future.

@RNCHFND

2 жыл бұрын

Steve Jobs died when he decided to give up on meds to try the alternative route

@masync183

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, juiced fruits and vegetables are extremely good for you but they aren't going to actually cure anything that isn't caused by a lack of those nutrients. Sometimes we get so used to feeling bad that even small positive changes can make us feel amazing.

@madeleine61509

2 жыл бұрын

Ignoring the juice thing, I do think he still had a point. Doctors in general should be trusted, but pain meds specifically are basically just a lifelong cycle of dependency, especially when it comes to degenerative conditions like arthritis. Many of the pain medications that your doctor might prescribe to you are highly addictive and potentially even life-ruining. I don't think he's entirely wrong for seeking alternatives first. I have seen people's lives be absolutely ruined by dependency and addiction to fentanyl, oxycodone, methadone, and codeine.

@stache1954

2 жыл бұрын

@@RNCHFND Pancreatic cancer.

@JamesSmith-pp5vp

2 жыл бұрын

@@madeleine61509 I understand that, I've been on pain medications myself for most of my life. The problem with him advocating away from those pain meds is that most prescribed pain meds for arthritis are anti-inflammatory and prevent/limit further damage being done to the joints. In 15 years, if he continues this way, he will find himself with no other option to be on strong pain medication for the rest of his life.

I’ve seen Lucian on Instagram and it was really sad. He was homeless and a heroin addict but was till doing Instagram live. He was so erratic, all over the place and unrecognizable. He would ask people to send him money and post videos of him living in a motel and buying crack from dealers.

Bless this narrator for explaining the premise of Project Runway to people watching Drag Race content as though they’ve no idea what it is. That’s good, if ironic, journalism.

So I would like to add that I used to follow Lucian on Instagram. It was clear he was on drugs. He would post weird pictures of himself with sores on his body and captions about how his family was disowning him or something. He ranted about taking bleach baths and posted feet pics too. It was a weird time and I unfollowed him. Its sad because I was a big fan of him on the show

@PugginNThuggin

2 жыл бұрын

I follow him, he seems to be doing better now

@princesskristan

2 жыл бұрын

Followed him too. I checked his account recently and it seems like he's doing better, but damn that time was scary

Lucian's story sounds very similar to Katya's, except Katya probably had a better support system with her friends, family and fans. I don't judge him.

@gteasdale333

2 жыл бұрын

He literally proudly admitted he had empathy for Hitler. I do.

@Dark_Aeon

2 жыл бұрын

@@gteasdale333 it's mental illness. Saying stuff for self-sabotage

@Channotek72

2 жыл бұрын

except katya didn’t consistently go on racist and antisemitic rants on twitter. i have no respect for him. you don’t do that if you don’t actively have hatred in you.

@Dark_Aeon

2 жыл бұрын

@@Channotek72 during her psychotic break Katya also went out of her way to send threats to her former friends. She went radio silent and then sent hateful stuff to Trixie and other people. It's like your mind wants you to hit rock bottom and makes you say the most vile stuff.

@marckid93

2 жыл бұрын

Nah imma judge him. Racists get no sympathy.

Back when Lucian was having his rants on Instagram and twitter, I completely dismissed RuPaul's claim the problem was mental health and call for compassion - as far as I am concerned, Holocost denialism and slurs using is not a medical diagnosis. Reading he was experiencing psychosis because of his marijuana abuse now makes it make more sense, in retrospect. When your brain is predisposed for it, Marijuana can trigger psychosis. And that's medically a loss of contact with reality. Not that it makes what he said and did acceptable, but I'm not going to judge someone's character based on what they said or did while in a psychotic state.

@tylermyers200

2 жыл бұрын

Girl bye... weed does not cause/trigger psychosis.

@galupyy

2 жыл бұрын

@@tylermyers200 it can

@Rai_S82

2 жыл бұрын

@@tylermyers200 my mum is a mental health social worker, and she sees A LOT of people that have 'issues' stemming from weed use.

@aananimity

2 жыл бұрын

Kinda surprised that a search shows that it does.

@raeroa7982

2 жыл бұрын

@@tylermyers200 It absolutely can. Happened to my best friend and it was terrifying. He was hospitalized over it. You shouldn't contribute to a stigma by making fun of something that you don't know about and could research very easily.

I'm all for 100% destigmatize mental illnesses. Saying that, I take care of a person with mental illness and they will do anything to not take their meds. They will remove themselves from family, stay inside all day, and start yelling at strangers, eventually requiring the police. The most ironic thing is that once they are on their meds, stable, they take them by themselves, but it's very hard to get some people to start taking them.

Never knew that stuff about Lucian. I hope he's doing better as well. Thanks for bringing these topics up respectfully

I understood why Santino was chosen as a judge. He did really well on PR. Project Runway was in it's early stages too- it wasn't until Christian Siriano took off that the height of PR actually soared. Either way PR was VERY intense- he knows what its like to be on a constant deadline working to make yourself win. He was an up and coming fashion design icon-sadly I think Drag Race took him away from that element of design cause I never saw celebs in his outfits. I would've loved if Ru utilized him for a maxi challenge where the Queens were presenting a Fashion Brand/Line as an ambassador. That would've been an amazing challenge, since many aren't capable of doing so (but now that is post drag race life- fashion/brand ambassadors and endorsements). He's also biracial so that was some representation queer POC all over. I know we got to know of a lot of back story of Michelle, but knowing some of Santino's back story beyond being a judge would've been a greater appeal to his character. He def understood style and I can appreciate that. I appreciate Merle Ginsburg A LOT as well. She's a very talented individual and I wish drag race invited her back for a spot even in a spin off. She knows her job and does it well- would've given the audience more of her to fall in love with as well. Maybe Drag Race Canada or International All Stars? I think along with Michelle she would’ve done well- It would've been a good balance of extreme and pleasant. Michelle is very gay culture/ballroom culture oriented and extravagant but Merle was def the straight man- a lot more tame, demure, her fashion was much more commercial. She knows what's marketable.. she knew what would sell cause she was a writer, publicist , interviewed on red carpets and understood style and fashion like in terms of Vogue & what Anna Wintour would run- she knew fashion history as well. She was very much a very well rounded taste critic, because she understood the challenges like in Season 2's book challenge. Her critiques were well thought out and very articulate. She was always soft spoken- never rude. BY FAR. a lot better than Billy B who gave such rude critiques about drag and makeup- yet couldn't properly paint Shangela for her season's reunion. Now at this point, I do wish Ru would go back to basics, with Merle, Michelle, and Santino - Hell, I'm still waiting for Timm Gunn & Heidi Klum to be a guest judge & Timm help's Ru mentor in the workroom. Such great minds. I think could've brought the judges and competition more full circle.

@fluttershysdragrace

2 жыл бұрын

Billy b is easily the worst judge in my opinion….

@danny___928

2 жыл бұрын

@@fluttershysdragrace oh of course, and many of his critiques were lowkey very racially based...

@ToriCake95

2 жыл бұрын

@@fluttershysdragrace I mean, Santino called Latrise a literal couch which is gross asf. Glad he left.

@danny___928

2 жыл бұрын

@@ToriCake95 🙄🙄🙄 you’re reaching so hard…really? … that’s because Latrice’s gown was LITERALLY made out of couch/furniture upholstery. If you grew up in the 90’s you would know that fabric was a running theme in furniture. That fabric was too heavy to pull off what she was trying to give. Although the color was radiant on her. Santino is a judge at the end of the day and critiques are going to be harsh either way because they are all artists. Latrice is a big girl, she knows couch isn’t what offended her- but it was edited out. So stop with this whole, oh couch was demeaning etc- it’s a fashion critique … stupidity of oversensitivity.

The show has had some interesting judges over the years, like Todrick who is a scammer and fraud artist.

@iwillwh00pyoa52

2 жыл бұрын

HOW IS TODRICK A SCAMMER FRAUD ARTIST? HE LITERALLY IS A SINGER AND A DANCER

@katevillejo3226

2 жыл бұрын

@@iwillwh00pyoa52 he doesn't pay his employees I think that's what I heard

I remember when Lucian posted a picture of his Piane on instagram during his whole spiral it was wild

The big thing that modern drag race lacks now is a foil. I really miss Santino's judging and how it was insightful and critical to the task at hand and really focused on helping contestants to create better art overall even if they had to check their ego in the moment. The current seasons are so zeroed in on painfully tired and schticky one liners and a predetermined story line that the aspects of competitiveness to actually find a "drag superstar" feel really thrown to the side. I hope they diversify the judging panel and replace RuPaul, the American seasons desperately need some new blood.

Poor Lucian honestly. I’ve been following him for awhile and I remember his last big outburst where he was posting it all to his instagram story. I hope he gets the help he needs

Love that you used Jackie cox picture for Michelle visage 😂😂 6.44

Merle was actually nice and I miss her. Her criticism was founded and constructive and detailed, far from that very generic and repetitive " You are not being yourself" "You are hiding behind a costume" "I do not know who you are" blah blah we get nowadays.

You should investigate the situation with Billy B - one of the early seasons makeup artist guest judges that apparently fully went off grid because of some mental health issues.

@_ivy_1313

2 жыл бұрын

Yes!!!! I once saw him on a documentary about TI’s( targeted individuals) the people who believe like the government is stalking them and that sorta thing…in the interview he broke down in tears! 😢

The “Michelle visage” always gets me 😂

Poor Lucian was a crazed tweaker in my opinion. His rants sounded just like a meth addict. Hope he found help and sobriety. No one is in their right mind under the influence of that horrible drug.

@iTeacupPanda

2 жыл бұрын

LITERALLY just what I said. LITERALLY everytime people get on meth here they go on some right wing bullshit. and the thing about a meth addict is they will always try to be offensive to get people to look their way and get attention

@naoicon351

2 жыл бұрын

Theres a shed of truth under all that anger and hate. Not all meth addicts say racist shit.

@househeadericmd

Жыл бұрын

@@naoicon351 You’re probably right!

@ejakaegypt

Жыл бұрын

Addicts don’t make racial slurs

@househeadericmd

Жыл бұрын

@@ejakaegypt Racial slurs??!!?? You tube comments sure are crazy sometimes. Yours takes the cake. It sounds ridiculous and stupid. Good luck!!

Yet another great video, Green Gay! Thank you for explaining these situations

@GreenGayYT

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching & supporting 💚

I’ve chatted with Merle Ginsberg in passing. The sweetest. She’d be great on dragrace again.

I always liked Santino for the fact that I appreciated someone with actual design skills and knowledge of how clothing is made on the panel. Knowing the actual work, process and thought that goes into constructing a garment lets you be a better judge of the runways.

@herefortheshrimp1469

2 жыл бұрын

Hard agree. I’m glad he’s no longer a judge but I would really love more technical experts on the judging panel! My god even just another queen! (I vote for Bob and I always will lol)

@topherpaolucci3774

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly that’s what so great about Ana locking on drag race españa. She clearly loves drag and gay culture but she also has a strong design background and will actually offer critiques on the outfit instead of saying “it doesn’t work”

@GigiM_winx

2 жыл бұрын

@@topherpaolucci3774 really??!! Don't you remember what that pressed bleached Bich told to inti

@KPbouj

2 жыл бұрын

Same and being a fan of his from Project Runway I appreciate the queer biracial representation.

Wow! This answers alot of questions. Thank you for posting.

And no Ross matthews’ critiques are not on point at all. He is so clearly there to push whatever WoW tells him to. It’s so fake and annoying it’s really obvious. Carson is the better of the two frequent guest judges.

@ZZTopRockman

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Carson seems quite thoughtful and has a sincerity at his core

@jasonmartin1267

2 жыл бұрын

I disagree & he produces a traveling drag show, so I think his opinion is based more on experience in drag & carsons is more in fashion

I get the point of questioning the doctors as sometimes they can over prescribe and lead to addiction, the opioid epidemic main cause was by over prescriptions. But we should still consult with doctors and seek medical attention as needed. Just make sure to look into any medications that can be addictive/harmful.

@petrus9067

8 ай бұрын

Its because the US bans a lot of effective medications based on outdated research, its so weird

The double standard between Tyra and Lucian Piane's stories is just ABSURD. Seriously, it's just ABSURD.

@josmos1182

2 жыл бұрын

RIGHT!!!

@denzelwynter

2 жыл бұрын

The fandom is racist and people are giving Lucian an easy time cos they'd like to sleep with him.

@ejakaegypt

Жыл бұрын

Are you even surprised tho?

mental health is serious, i do hope Lucian Paine gets the right help

Oml I used to be a project runway stan. Stan your videos, slay

oh my god you now have cartoon dissapointed cricket fan guy.... I love this

Santino was absolute fire on Project Runway. His season was one of the best of the entire series.

I LOVE how you using photo of Jackie Cox instead of Michelle! Brilliant! @

I just love to get junk food and watch your videos! I recognize hyperproduction would hurt the quality of your content, but darn would I want to see more and more!

This was fascinating. I didn't get into DR till Season 8 so I didn't know much about Santino. I do recall the Piane stuff while it was happening though. Sad on both accounts. Could you do a vid about what happened to Matthew Anderson please? He definitely has disappeared from the RPDR family w/lots of rumors & controversy. Thank you.

I love the use of Jackie Cox as Michelle Visage lmao

Santino serves vegan nachos at a restaurant in Downtown L.A. he was my server and he was super friendly.

Jackie Cox as Michelle Visage: Thank U

I've always hated Santino. Never felt he had the right to be a judge

@Klaudiapettus

2 жыл бұрын

Sis he was a designer judging the fashions in the earlier seasons. The early seasons were heavy on the design challenges. He was a prick but it made sense to have a “designer” they could afford on the panel.

@creepyspookyicky

2 жыл бұрын

100% he may have been a designer but he was also an asshole

@creepyspookyicky

2 жыл бұрын

@@Klaudiapettus LOL ohhh the shade - "designer" !!! Yr not wrong!

@dante6985

2 жыл бұрын

I mean what gives Ross Matthews the "right" to be a judge? Or Jeffrey Bowyer-Chapman? Having a 'right' to be a judge on a reality tv show is an interesting way of looking at things (they're not there to be all that constructive, unfortunately, they're there to help make good television). As for *hating* someone? I mean, I don't think Santino has said or done enough to earn such a strong reaction. Anyway, he was a successful fashion designer and tv personality, which gave him about as much 'right' as anyone save Ru. Some of his views expressed online have been awful (particularly CoVid conspiracies and anti- body positivity). On Project Runway he was funny and a good contestant. That's about all there is to the story of Santino.

@Klaudiapettus

2 жыл бұрын

Girl bye if you were an actual drag race fan you would already know wassup. Do your hw first before you write a whole ass essay in the comments baby 😂

great video, the pic of Jackie as Michelle made me laugh

I felt one of my horcruxes die when you started to explain what project runway was

@KPbouj

2 жыл бұрын

The way I wanted to scream 😂but just liked the comment instead. The amount of potterheads that Stan project runway and OG rpdr is not talked about enough and that angers my inner Slytherin.

Love your uploads

@GreenGayYT

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you 💚

Pretty sure in a recent Pit Stop Bob mentioned how there was only like, one working sewing machine in the workroom lol.

Part of the reason why season 2 is my favorite is I think In small part to Meryl and santino season 2 was just fun and for anyone who's never watched it you can clearly see the vibe is so different compared to every season after this is because I'm the end I think Meryl,santino and RuPaul understood drag is not meant to be taken seriously it's for fun Michelle changed that vibe while santono would be a dick sometimes he's critiques still never came over as bad as Michelle also even though Michelle had been around the drag scene for so long in her early seasons it she came across as a hypocrite like how could she critique queens when her herself wouldn't take them and she just came across as mean for the sake of being mean also and this is my biggest issue with her the comes across as RuPaul's flunky laughing at whatever RuPaul says never to disagree Meryl and saintino never felt like that

Carson was the best addition imo

Lucian Payne was Rupaul's greatest Producer. My Favourite Rupaul Songs are from that era.

@cattime2044

2 жыл бұрын

No love for Cazwell?

Yasss you spilled all the tea❤

The only thing I can say which is truth is Lucien’s albums for Rupaul were great sounds and I felt the difference as soon as he was gone in Ru’s next albums.

As Blanco de! Rio said " "I will show you verasility when Santino wins a sewing competition and Visage wears a f---ing turtleneck. Ain't gonna happen!"

"While I wouldn't describe (Ross Matthews) as hilarious..." This. It always gets me how Ru introduced him as "..the hilarious Ross Matthews." He is a great marketer and is well aaware of the tactic of, if you keep repeating something, people will begin to believe it's true.

lucians tweet about rupaul, logo etc ruining the art form of drag is kind of true tbh. famous drag now is all about profit, notoriety, followers, plastic surgery, thinness, image, filters, etc. it used to mean something. drag was political. now it’s been completely watered down into utter nonsense. (just look at the recent all stars ep with nancy frickin pelosi, our drag sisters passed would be disgusted to see queer people worshiping someone who stands for nothing but capitalism and greed!!) read about S.T.A.R.S, read sylvia and marshas words, research mark ashton and LGSM, listen to them and see how far we have strayed from the revolutionary potential of the lgbtq community.

Hi Gay !

@GreenGayYT

2 жыл бұрын

Hello!

I love it how when you're talking about Michelle visage you're using a picture of Jackie Cox as Michelle visage

i literally just ran into lucian at starbucks. he def needs help i feel kinda bad that all i could offer was a caramel frappe. i’m not familiar with the show, i just looked him up cuz he told me to. this is so interesting to watch, i hope he is ok

Please do an episode on what happened to Mike Ruiz!

Lucian was my crush. So sad what happened to him. Hope he's in a better place now! :-/

Green gay- As I wouldn’t describe him as hilarious. And the winner of this weeks reading challenges is green gay

i love how you managed to find the worst possible photo of santino for the thumbnail

Thank you🤗 for the "T"⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

the music was worthwhile with Lucian.

I feel bad for Lucian. I remember i had a crush on him the first time I saw him in RPDR. Hope all is well for him during this time of pandemic 🥰🥳

If Ross Mathew’s was hilarious, Ru wouldn’t need to tell us this every episode

@fionagallagherapologist5968

2 жыл бұрын

real

@WillSing4TP

2 жыл бұрын

Too right!🤣

If you had experienced Psychosis before, you might have compassion. "Mental Illness" is a vague umbrella term, and depression/anxiety/mood symptoms are NOT anything like psychosis (delusions and hallucinations). Nothing excuses bad behavior completely! I.E. Someone who, well, murders a person then gets labeled "mentally unfit for trial" still faces repercussions, just not necessarily in prison. And someone who makes public statements while unfortunately in a state of psychosis, may never recover their life and that MAY be punishment enough. There is a certain star I'm thinking of who years later is still struggling from a similar public "meltdown" (which did offend people) but it seems she is receiving a little more public compassion this time around. Don't kick people when they are down and recognize that severe mental illness and/or drug use (both can go hand in hand) can in fact make you do things you never thought you would.

It’s weird that Lucien is so poor when he should be getting at least ‘something’ in terms of royalties for the music he wrote for the show. I guess it all went up in smoke, so to speak? It’s really sad. Cute, talented, but deeply flawed and the addictions seemed to make everything much worse

@jessislistless

Жыл бұрын

All I can say is "Nicolas Cage". He's not the first and won't be the last person in showbiz who had everything only to loose it all due to mental health issues, terrible financial decisions, and other reasons.

LMAO I had no idea Pixie Aventura had been dragged into this! Iconic!

I met Lucian in front of the Ralphs in LaBrea in late 2021 or early 2022. He came asking for a cigarette. We chatted a little. It was clear that he was a little high on something. He left me his number and told me to call him if I see him in the media making it big again. A good soul.

Green gay out here with all the receipts

8^o I had no idea of Lucian's character nor his struggles. Yikes. I hope he gets care, heals, and unlearns those ugly things