What Happened to Russia's New AK-12?

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Why did the Russian military switch from the AK-74M to the new AK-12 as their primary rifle for their rank and file soldiers? How has the new rifle performed in combat so far based on early reports from the front lines in Ukraine? It might seem strange to switch platforms especially since the new one fires the same exact 5.45mm ammunition from the same exact magazine with similar rates of fire.
Written by: Chris Cappy & Diego Aceituno
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But it's more complicated than simply comparing weapon stats one to one, because once you pop open the hood you realize the AK-12 was originally meant to be delivered as one single part of a much larger whole. It was a component of the major overhaul of the Russian infantry modernization program, called “Ratnik,” It’s like Aristotle famously said, the whole is greater than the sum of its parts and that’s the case here the AK-12 is one single part that when combined with all the Ratnik pieces , promised to create an infantryman 10 times more capable.
But was the Russian ministry of defense able to successfully roll out those upgrades? And are the rumors true about the AK-12 needing to get a complete redesign after poor soldier feedback from their experiences fighting in Ukraine? Join me as I take a deep dive into the updates on how Russia’s infantry modernization program is playing out in real time with their new rifle, the AK-12.
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  • @Taskandpurpose
    @Taskandpurpose11 ай бұрын

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  • @deamerican49352

    @deamerican49352

    11 ай бұрын

    Ok

  • @dragon12234

    @dragon12234

    11 ай бұрын

    Slight nitpicky correction. Vodka seems to have been invented in Sweden, Poland, and Russia, independently at around the same time. Poland and Sweden using grain, Russia using potatoes

  • @rocko7711

    @rocko7711

    11 ай бұрын

    🇺🇦🇺🇦

  • @KoroushRP

    @KoroushRP

    11 ай бұрын

    Can you do videos on Irans new rifles? From the khiabar to massa etc.. which were supposed to replace the heckler and ak47s.

  • @civosborne

    @civosborne

    11 ай бұрын

    My thought to you having a mini AK-12 is "did you kill a Russian dwarf?"

  • @goose4342
    @goose434211 ай бұрын

    AK-12 is a very reliable weapon; I've used it for years in Battlefield 4 with not one malfunction. I've been deployed to the desert (Silk Road) arctic tundra (hammerhead) and every environment in between. It's functioned beautifully in all of them.

  • @infinitsai

    @infinitsai

    11 ай бұрын

    I find it depressing that from all the geopolitical predictions in 2010s video games, the closest one we got is the RU/CN/US all out conflict in bf4

  • @Shinkajo

    @Shinkajo

    11 ай бұрын

    @@infinitsai Frontlines: fuel for war is becoming more and more likely too

  • @useyourbrain6937

    @useyourbrain6937

    11 ай бұрын

    I was deployed with you brother, we fought hard that day, you were always by my side to revive me.

  • @kamelkadri2843

    @kamelkadri2843

    11 ай бұрын

    I used it in Stalker anomaly, Can't say it was reliable, Malfunction after couple of Mags

  • @goose4342

    @goose4342

    11 ай бұрын

    @@useyourbrain6937 flubber?

  • @V3RTIGO222
    @V3RTIGO22211 ай бұрын

    The OG AK-12 had a monolithic upper rail and some other major differences in both design and function to the current development release model. Kalashnikov has more or less stated these design choices by Russian military were to lower cost significantly which ultimately removed a lot of the reasons to even get a new weapon researched and produced. The main cost concern here was setting up the new tooling for the updated AK-12 design... What ended up happening was effectively using mostly standard AK-74 metal parts and updated polymer. Also... The 2 shot burts of the AK-12 are not shot at a higher firerate than full auto, and is generally worse than the AN-94 in almost every way. It is a feature Kalashnikov advised against, and also ruins the 'standard' selection lever by adding more complexity and points of failure where even the 94 didn't have problems. Kalashnikovs AKV-521 is closer to the original design of the AK-12, and the current AK-12 was purposefully mishandled by the Russian military's requests for certain design elements and extremely cheap pricing.

  • @tomsmith2209

    @tomsmith2209

    11 ай бұрын

    Basically the akv-521

  • @Lonewolfmike

    @Lonewolfmike

    11 ай бұрын

    From what I have see from other KZread channels is there are some real problems in like maintenance on certain parts of the rifle and the hand guard is junk because it isn't ridged enough for things like lasers and the like that need to hold zero. On top of that they still have corrosive ammo in their stockpiles doesn't help matters either.

  • @ShortT-RexLikeArms

    @ShortT-RexLikeArms

    11 ай бұрын

    @@tomsmith2209 No, the original design also used a separate upper rail/dust cover. It was longer and attached somewhat differently but was basically the same idea as the current AK-12 dust cover.

  • @V3RTIGO222

    @V3RTIGO222

    11 ай бұрын

    @@tomsmith2209 aye, another side note for Cappy is the AN-94 wasn't as unreliable as it was so absurdly complex (and expensive) that it could not be disassembled for field maintenance, and of course it required more regular cleaning and maintenance than your basic AK.

  • @V3RTIGO222

    @V3RTIGO222

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Lonewolfmike the design of the handguard was changed at by the military during development to a weaker polymer to save cost as well as a less durable design to be able to use more standard 74 tooling already available

  • @shinomakichuppy8236
    @shinomakichuppy823611 ай бұрын

    the fact the a 105 with Zenit kits would clear out the AK-12 at every aspect is crazy.

  • @brandonbowman5915

    @brandonbowman5915

    11 ай бұрын

    Absolutely. I'm not much of an AK guy but that is a set up I'd like to have. The ak12 is a solution looking for a problem

  • @Prometheus7272

    @Prometheus7272

    11 ай бұрын

    It's insane, that's just true and they already had the machining for it.

  • @Max_Da_G

    @Max_Da_G

    11 ай бұрын

    Not in aspect of bullet flight range. AK-105 is a short-range weapon.

  • @orzdxy

    @orzdxy

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Max_Da_Git’s not far off from mk18 standards in terms of ballistics

  • @RustedCroaker

    @RustedCroaker

    8 ай бұрын

    It's insane that a shortened version of the AK with Zenitco kit weight almost 2 times of the full length AK-12. Having not a single adavtage at the same time.

  • @sebastianperez6124
    @sebastianperez612411 ай бұрын

    It's strange that many of the AK-12 features could've been achieved on the 74-M with upgrade kits, allowing for standard muzzle devices, a working selector and proven iron sights.

  • @Max_Da_G

    @Max_Da_G

    11 ай бұрын

    You'd think so but no. The upgrade kits WERE considered, but it turned out that they made the rifle weigh significantly more. That wasn't acceptable. KM-AK kit was designed and made, but pushed the rifle weight almost over 4kg, from 3.3kg. Also Russian military wanted an improvement in group sizes and make the rifle not shift POI from POA if rifle is pressed against a wall/ledge/whatever other cover, which required freefloating the handguard. Basically the AK needed a thorough modernization. And AK-12 was it. It's just too "raw" as Russians call it. Look up AK-12M1. It solved vast majority of the issues that Russian military brought up.

  • @bobfg3130

    @bobfg3130

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@Max_Da_G The kits wouldn't have made it heavier if they were properly designed.

  • @RustedCroaker

    @RustedCroaker

    8 ай бұрын

    @@bobfg3130 It inevitably will made it heaver. It's a simple rule: you add something - the thing wheight more.

  • @lakobause
    @lakobause11 ай бұрын

    So if they had simply issued AK-74 handguards with rails, improved fire selectors, and improved folding stocks for soldiers to install on their own AK-74s, it would've achieved the same thing and cost way less.

  • @DinoNucci

    @DinoNucci

    11 ай бұрын

    NO?! You don't say?! Thanks Captain Obvious

  • @kilianortmann9979

    @kilianortmann9979

    11 ай бұрын

    Not at all, the resulting contract would have been way cheaper and costs would have been easier to track, much fewer options for creatively accounting funds into the pockets of General Oligarkhov and his friends.

  • @steves578

    @steves578

    11 ай бұрын

    that already exist, its called the AK 100 series, the 104 and 105 being favorites of mine.

  • @ratagris21

    @ratagris21

    11 ай бұрын

    Nyet palms we're not greased in the process.

  • @DinoNucci

    @DinoNucci

    11 ай бұрын

    @@ratagris21 wrong

  • @froginthewaves8450
    @froginthewaves845011 ай бұрын

    AK-12's Trophy status reminds a lot of the Mujahedeen with their AKS-74u's symbolizing they shot down a pilot, more specifically a mi-24 pilot.

  • @thejackal5099

    @thejackal5099

    11 ай бұрын

    Tank crews carried them too.

  • @jkjkman8565

    @jkjkman8565

    11 ай бұрын

    😂😂 thats why chechenya lost right

  • @axlfrhalo

    @axlfrhalo

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@jkjkman8565bot malfunctioned lol

  • @FatRescueSwimmer04

    @FatRescueSwimmer04

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@jkjkman8565 Tell your programmers we aren't interested in your shit bot

  • @Redfoxjack

    @Redfoxjack

    11 ай бұрын

    @@thejackal5099 ya but its a lord harder to recover a tank crews AK form low earth orbit after they became members of the suka blyat space program

  • @Max_Da_G
    @Max_Da_G11 ай бұрын

    AK-12 was rushed. That's basically it. While the reliability of the core remained high, the changes to furniture and other parts had proven to require rework. Concept is sound and follows modern firearms in ability to mount accessories. It's just that it needs more refinement. New model released last month addresses most of the shortcomings AK-12 had. It's actually a pretty advanced AK design, all things considered. Just needs more refinement.

  • @plushie946

    @plushie946

    11 ай бұрын

    *claims to address we don't have enough evidence or data to know if it's actually successful, and ultimately no military advancement means anything if you can't get it into your soldiers' hands in relevant numbers

  • @bobfg3130

    @bobfg3130

    10 ай бұрын

    It wasn't rushed. It was released 2012. It was badly designed.

  • @fifteen8850

    @fifteen8850

    9 ай бұрын

    @@bobfg3130until you realize that the og ak12 wasn’t all that and they realized what made an ak an ak is that it’s simple, cheap, and reliable. This newer ak12 is 100% better at those than the older one.

  • @user-qz2sw7pq8y

    @user-qz2sw7pq8y

    6 ай бұрын

    jeah i always find it funny how internet experts claim that it was much better an all and ignore simple the fact that it failed tests badly , even kalaschnikov has uploaded videos of load failurse and such of the old versions. ​also half of the info of this video is based rather on propaganda then on objective reviews. the truth is that : first version of ak 12 had issiues , some could be fixed by modifications but msot prefered the older versions. second version is a lot more popular , when they started appearing in mass the aftermarket was also huge for it. the main issiues kike holding zero etc were fixed . unlike what the video claims most soldiers have modern equipment including body armor , nightvision various kinds of tuning including optics etc etc and the quality is high. honestly people who understand russian have easy acces to reviews of all kind of people acctually using that stuff and not bs media. so the optic thing is quite improtant to even people prefering ironsights in the conflict as at night nearly all fifht with some kind of optic either red dot or night vision optic. at night supressors are a must and most use them even at day because of a lot of advantages it became the most popular mdofiication installing a supressor / can / sound moderato/ tactical supressor or how ever people call these devices. since aftermarket is huge this is a non issiue now. a lot of sf guys switched to it , the only thing they usually change is the handguard to something like the sports kit for ak 12 from zenitco as the handguard is shot and not suited for soemthing that needs to hold zero. only complaint from them is the useless two round buest thats fixed in current version. @@fifteen8850

  • @dankim7488
    @dankim748811 ай бұрын

    I think they wouldve been better off contracting Zenitco to mass produce handguards, rail cover systems, stocks, grips and every aesthetic component of the older but still good AK-74M and go to town. Probably less costly than the all the investment that was made to creating the AK-12. Its still a beautiful looking rifle at least.

  • @captainsierra8611

    @captainsierra8611

    11 ай бұрын

    I dont think so If you check on their website several pieces go from $70-300+ you'd need quite a few to fully upgrade it Meanwhile the ak12 has a production cost of around $1000 But of course I'm sure someone could get real numbers if they spent more time doing research

  • @rarecandy3445

    @rarecandy3445

    11 ай бұрын

    its likely that kalashnikov group is state owned, minimizing the need for profit driven production in russia, similar to zastava in serbia. zenit is not. they could still be contracted but the state would not want to spend that extra money on their equipment.

  • @UltraTotenkopf

    @UltraTotenkopf

    11 ай бұрын

    @@captainsierra8611 *Dude ... where did you get the information about the price of the AK-12, did you come up with it yourself? ;-) TR3 - a civilian analogue of the AK-12 will cost 69,000 rubles in an ordinary arms store, that is, we can assume that under a contract with the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the price of a batch of 150 thousand copies will cost the army much cheaper, and according to various estimates by Russian experts, the price of the AK-12 and its various modifications is 350-400 US dollars for the Russian army!*

  • @captainsierra8611

    @captainsierra8611

    11 ай бұрын

    @@UltraTotenkopf I literally said someone could get real numbers if they spent more time doing research don't know what you're so butthurt about

  • @user-xw2ez1vj4t

    @user-xw2ez1vj4t

    10 ай бұрын

    Zenit is famous for it's heavy weight

  • @memezoffuckery3207
    @memezoffuckery320711 ай бұрын

    The AK-12 had so much hype during the early 2010’s, with it being in Battlefield 4 and Cod Ghost.

  • @coryyoung7544

    @coryyoung7544

    11 ай бұрын

    Maybe ghost but for BF4 it was pretty much instantly thrown away for the famas till it got nerfed.

  • @fifty50x8

    @fifty50x8

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@coryyoung7544Unfortunate too because the famas is so ugly 🤢 and the ak12 was so aesthetic in that game. I still used it often when playing anyway.

  • @unholyknight786

    @unholyknight786

    11 ай бұрын

    It was not. Early AK-13 was clusterfuck which couldn't even hold recoil of underbarrel grenade launcher, and charging handle was just atrocious. And there were no simply ways to fix that - zlobin's design was good for stand shooting, not for participating in conflicts of any sorts.

  • @Yevgeny_N

    @Yevgeny_N

    11 ай бұрын

    It was a different rifle, having nothing in common with the modern AK-12.

  • @coryyoung7544

    @coryyoung7544

    11 ай бұрын

    @@danielallan8061 gameplay wise it was alright, it just fell into the spot where it got outclassed by pretty much everything else and wasn't even as good an allrounder as the M4. Only real upside was that it got the russian GL.

  • @KrasniyByk
    @KrasniyByk11 ай бұрын

    The rear sight was changed in 2020 to a shorted one for more comfortable sight mounting (longer picatinny rail). Then it was improved in 2023 version. It has two holes now for precision long range shooting (small hole) and close range (big hole) that's also better for shooting in the dark. The bayonet suppressor mount was also introduced in 2020 (not 2023). So by these days many manufactures actually have suppressors for ak-12 with bayonet mount. In 2023 the bayonet was changed again. Now you can't remove that muzzle brake at all and you have to attach the suppressor over that muzzle brake. That's why they have to design new suppressors again to use with new ak-12. In the latest ak-12 2023 the two round burst mode was also ditched because it made the awesome AK trigger stiffer without any real advantage. They also made new more modern fire selector switch accessible from both sides of the gun. Two round burst on the classic ak selector wasn't good (too many firing modes on that short travel distance of that selector. Difficult to precisely select the mode). So we have three versions of modern ak-12 (not including that old prototype)- ver. 2018, 2020 and the most modern - 2023.

  • @Blind_Hawk
    @Blind_Hawk10 ай бұрын

    Besides the well put together video. Thank you so much for showing me goat guns. They actually that what I was searching for for such a long time.

  • @supersam5802
    @supersam580211 ай бұрын

    Vodka, Dostoyevsky and an ak-47 does sound like a hell of a time

  • @benjammin9745

    @benjammin9745

    11 ай бұрын

    Don't forget track pants and hard bass

  • @mannyb7949

    @mannyb7949

    11 ай бұрын

    Specially once the vodka kicks in

  • @JimIBobIJones

    @JimIBobIJones

    11 ай бұрын

    That combination is effectively throwing a dice on whether you end up : 1) killing yourself 2) killing your father 3) killing a random merchant to prove that you are above the rest of humanity (and also because you are dead broke) 4) ending up in a lunatic asylum 5) becoming a nihilistic, cowardly cuck 6) doing a combination of the above.

  • @maksimfedoryak

    @maksimfedoryak

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@JimIBobIJoneszагадочная руzкая дуzа

  • @haramsaddam238

    @haramsaddam238

    11 ай бұрын

    I read Dostoyevsky while caressing my AK lovingly

  • @ihavetowait90daystochangem67
    @ihavetowait90daystochangem6711 ай бұрын

    Russia made the most handsome looking rifle in history and immediately threw it to the dumpster

  • @nobodyherepal3292

    @nobodyherepal3292

    11 ай бұрын

    Because it was barley better then the AK-74….

  • @johnharlow486

    @johnharlow486

    11 ай бұрын

    Not sure ‘handsome’ would be a specification in the ordinance boards request for a modernised weapon system.

  • @kurousagi8155

    @kurousagi8155

    11 ай бұрын

    It was apparently mediocre in terms of quality in comparison to older AK-74Ms.

  • @bradenmchenry995

    @bradenmchenry995

    11 ай бұрын

    Because they’re poor as shit

  • @penskepc2374

    @penskepc2374

    11 ай бұрын

    A stainless Mini 14 folder with wood furniture is the most handsome rifle of all time.

  • @SmokesKwazukii
    @SmokesKwazukii10 ай бұрын

    kick ass video man. You struck the perfect tone and managed to cut through the complexity of what’s happening in Myanmar and communicate it to your audience. Bravo

  • @thoughtful_criticiser
    @thoughtful_criticiser11 ай бұрын

    I knew a soldier who worked on the development of the SA80 at Warminster. Not one of them liked it or its performance, leading to very restricted feedback questions to get the weapon through. I preferred the FN L1A1 7.62mm it was great to handle and very accurate. You didn't need full auto because anybody hit by it wasn't getting back up. Unfortunately my issued personal weapon except in Northern Ireland was a 9mm SMG, useless over 50m.

  • @Liam1991
    @Liam199111 ай бұрын

    Those countries who are waiting for an modernised version of the AK, could always buy the Galil Ace

  • @cluelessdev3851

    @cluelessdev3851

    11 ай бұрын

    Hahaha! The police force in my country uses it heavily and they love it! My gf cousin operates one and she's a huge fan of it! love from Panama

  • @Clean97gti

    @Clean97gti

    11 ай бұрын

    The Zastava M19 is another modernized AK design redux.

  • @tetispinkman9135

    @tetispinkman9135

    11 ай бұрын

    Who the heck even needs ak. AR is better. Ar180 systems are better. If you are not in arctic, don't get an ak. And even if you are in arctic, get finish velmet

  • @NoiceBOB

    @NoiceBOB

    11 ай бұрын

    @@tetispinkman9135 Lmao Ar 180s are known for terrible reliability especially among the IRA. Try again Murica simp

  • @DeltaEchoGolf

    @DeltaEchoGolf

    11 ай бұрын

    @@tetispinkman9135 What a lot of people won't say is that the quality of the weapon is based on the quality of the persons using it.

  • @IanS158
    @IanS15811 ай бұрын

    Re: 1P87 "On par with the EOTech". People who I know with a 1P87 say it sucks. Reticule is too dim for most applications from what I've heard, and allegedly it doesn't hold zero very well.

  • @Taskandpurpose

    @Taskandpurpose

    11 ай бұрын

    Yes you’re correct, there’s also a lot of indication that the 1p87 isn’t up to par ! I gave the benefit of the doubt

  • @ClitoridectomyGroyper

    @ClitoridectomyGroyper

    11 ай бұрын

    Very noticeable blue tint too

  • @roblowe9283
    @roblowe928316 күн бұрын

    Keep up the good work !!!!!

  • @remain_
    @remain_11 ай бұрын

    It would be cool to see a video rating the new rifles of the different in a top 10 list. (Obviously a lot of this would be guesses, but would still be fun)

  • @professionalantichristhate528
    @professionalantichristhate52811 ай бұрын

    AK-12 got gimped during design. The prototype that made it into BF4, COD Ghosts, etc was unironiclly a major improvement that brought the AK platform up to a modern standard. Unfortunately for the Russian army, Shoigu and Gerasimov wanted mansions and yachts, so they demanded that they essentially just stick some shitty plastic furniture on an AK-74M.

  • @hazzardalsohazzard2624

    @hazzardalsohazzard2624

    11 ай бұрын

    Russia has potentially wrecked it's ability to be the world leader in assault rifles for terrorists with this. They took a really good design of AK and threw away everything that made it good.

  • @DZ4295DBW

    @DZ4295DBW

    11 ай бұрын

    Russian high command is absolutely corrupt. Always has been. Vatnik loves pools, caviar and hookers.

  • @F-14DSuperTomcat

    @F-14DSuperTomcat

    11 ай бұрын

    That prototype AK sucked though, it was barely better than the AK-74M

  • @EmilioMetralleta

    @EmilioMetralleta

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@F-14DSuperTomcatAt least it worked better than the current one lol.

  • @DZ4295DBW

    @DZ4295DBW

    11 ай бұрын

    @@EmilioMetralleta Yep. Current one does not even have a removable piston gas tube.....and they're still using corrosive ammo. Bad news bears for that tube. I'd rather have a 74 with the SureShot Chassis.

  • @RaDeus87
    @RaDeus8711 ай бұрын

    The moment I learned that you can't remove the gastube, and they use corrosive ammo, I knew that the AK-12 wasn't here to stay.

  • @rodiculous9464

    @rodiculous9464

    11 ай бұрын

    New russian ammo is not corrosive, they are still going through old stocks but the new ammo will not be corrosive.

  • @devildolphin2102

    @devildolphin2102

    11 ай бұрын

    @@rodiculous9464 Sure buddy. There using t55s in Ukraine but definitely aren’t lying about the non corrosive ammo. Your so special

  • @EmilioMetralleta

    @EmilioMetralleta

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@rodiculous9464The thing is that they don't want to produce new ammo until all the old corrosive ammo gets used.

  • @orchirion

    @orchirion

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@devildolphin2102I think he's right. Issue is how many old corrosive ammo do they have to go through before they're allowed to use the new one............ sounds like me trying to use up outdated stuff first and just end up making it harder for myself. 🤣🍺

  • @devildolphin2102

    @devildolphin2102

    11 ай бұрын

    @@orchirion You see I can’t even trust em, because for the past 10 years Russia has been lying about their modernization program. If they can’t provide Combat Gauze, proper IFAKs and basic Combat gear/Uniforms why should we believe they can provide proper Ammo

  • @aliyangco8178
    @aliyangco817811 ай бұрын

    The radio part is funny.🤣 love this video😂

  • @SpamMouse
    @SpamMouse11 ай бұрын

    Great insights Thank you Chris.

  • @busboy262
    @busboy26211 ай бұрын

    I know very little about modern or old Soviet or Russian optics, but I can speak to the production and availability of the 1p87 holographic sight to the Russian forces. They built the 1p87 in large numbers. And they were likely delivered to the MOD. Before there war, I could have bought one. I know some that did. They were delivered to these consumers in the right packaging and the internals were legit. They were expensive compared to an eotech, but if you wanted it, you could easily get the stolen product. Theft at the MOD isn't a bug. It's a feature.

  • @konstantin070797

    @konstantin070797

    11 ай бұрын

    Well, to be honest, modern optics really lags behind the production of everything else. But in principle it exists, and quite even domestic. But the factories have been experimenting on this for a long time and have lagged behind and are still lagging behind Holosan, but nevertheless the Kalashnikov Concern, together with VOMZ, produce a line of modern sights. And Novosibirsk sights wanted to release new sights for compatibility with AK-12 and picatinny bars. It's just that Holoxane or other sights are still more common, since there are a lot of them stupidly on the market and many simply buy suitable sights for themselves. Although the old military still profess the principle of using only mechanical sighting devices, as they consider them more reliable. But the conditions of a Special Military Operation dictate the use of thermal imaging sighting devices more, although they also have a number of limitations and inconveniences.

  • @konstantin070797

    @konstantin070797

    11 ай бұрын

    And yes, 1p87 is rarely used by anyone, there are also facts of selling them to buy the same Holosans. But in the civilian market, no one really needs it.

  • @busboy262

    @busboy262

    11 ай бұрын

    @@konstantin070797 "Need" is a pretty subjective term. Persoanally, I'll leave it to you to determine what you need.

  • @konstantin070797

    @konstantin070797

    11 ай бұрын

    @@busboy262 Well, it's more the legality of this product on your weapon than the need. And collectionization is purely for collectors, and practical application may be accompanied by punishment from the state. What is not present when using commercial sights.

  • @busboy262

    @busboy262

    11 ай бұрын

    @@konstantin070797 Legality is only now a problem. Prior to the war, just as now, it is a crime to EXPORT such tech from the US.The war, along with its its associated sanctions have made their import a legal problem. And this is mostly because of the payment for it. A remittance to "Vlad Vladimirovich" in Moscow would probably put you on a list. So yeah.......the landscape has changed. But my point was and is that these sights were more freely available to the foreign consumer than the Russian soldier. Corruption did that.

  • @Mininuke93
    @Mininuke9311 ай бұрын

    Shout out from arkansas! Happy to be part of the spare parts army... been watching for years. Love to see how the channel has grown over the years.

  • @Dav3.14
    @Dav3.1411 ай бұрын

    That sponsor ad was hilarious, thanks for that.

  • @perspicacity89
    @perspicacity8911 ай бұрын

    Great video, thanks.

  • @ArchOfficial
    @ArchOfficial11 ай бұрын

    To be fair the M16's bad initial performance was due to internal sabotage of the ammo supply. Had they used new powder to the spec that Stoner wanted, there'd be no issues, which is what ended up happening after some time.

  • @ClockworksOfGL

    @ClockworksOfGL

    11 ай бұрын

    IIRC, the military had the bright idea of upping the charge (to increase stopping power way beyond distances normal infantry would engage at, btw) and refusing to plate anything in order to save money. The result was a rifle that would jam and/or dissolve in the steamy jungle of Vietnam. The thing is, they had it fundamentally correct - a lightweight rifle firing tiny, high speed bullets with high precision. The AK-47 gets a lot of praise from internet soldiers, who forget that Russia hasn’t used it for decades due to numerous flaws.

  • @RJT80

    @RJT80

    11 ай бұрын

    Yep. Stoner wasn't an idiot. Someone else was.

  • @Mortablunt

    @Mortablunt

    11 ай бұрын

    Stoner was an idiot! Absolutely everything except for the powder was his fault! No way to force bolt close - his fault. No chrome lining - his fault. No way to run immediate reaction drills - his fault. Barrel prone to rupturing - his fault. No ability shoot left-handed - his fault. Possible to brick the rifle by charging it with bolt closed - his fault. No cleaning kit - his fault. Inadequate twist - his fault. There was a more than 100 point improvement program the generals wanted on the M-16 before they would consider it ready for combat, and Stoner turned down every single one, saying he designed the rifle perfectly as it was.

  • @ArchOfficial

    @ArchOfficial

    11 ай бұрын

    @@ClockworksOfGL No, the reason was because it was in the interests of some actors to A: Keep using the M14 and B: Use up old WWII powder, that was not suitable for use with 5.56 but was used anyway. The AKM is still used by Spetsnaz when they need an easily suppressable platform with some power. PBSs are everywhere and the low velocity of 7.62x39 make it easier to suppress than 5.45. The AK Type 1/2/3 was hardly used by the soviet military, with many still using SKSs by the time the AKM came around. In the 60s the AKM started to become widely standardized, and was still in use well into the 80s. In fact the Russian military still uses the AKM to some capacity among their reservists. The AK-47 has never been fielded in any large numbers because it was only produced in late 1948 and 1949.

  • @ArchOfficial

    @ArchOfficial

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Mortablunt To be fair there is no need for the forward assist, and the twist was part of the design spec due to inadequate understanding of tumbling. Barrel rupturing was completely due to the faulty ammo that wasn't in spec. Most rifles of the era also couldn't be fired left handed. You depict Stoner somewhat strangely based on some old Army propaganda, seeing as every improvement the Army wanted ended up being incorporated, instead of him refusing everything and the program being scrapped. I mean, the M-16 was so good that some in the DoD with Springfield connection felt the need to sabotage it because it'd phase out the M-14 too soon.

  • @rodiculous9464
    @rodiculous946411 ай бұрын

    It's kinda funny that the biggest problem is the same as for guns on the civilian market: it adds no new real functionality while also making every aftermarket part unusable

  • @scottmacgregor3444

    @scottmacgregor3444

    11 ай бұрын

    Or gaming, cars and electronics, or just technology in general.

  • @bibekjung7404

    @bibekjung7404

    11 ай бұрын

    KABEEER ALMIGHTY GOD ---🙏🙏

  • @NiSiochainGanSaoirse

    @NiSiochainGanSaoirse

    11 ай бұрын

    it's the same reason you can't put xbox games into a PlayStation, or put audi manifolds on Toyotas. It's a pain for the buyers, but it makes sound business sense.

  • @kieran2221
    @kieran222111 ай бұрын

    You are literally the only ad read that I listen to. It's really, really good.

  • @seanwalter4018
    @seanwalter401811 ай бұрын

    Are you guys going to make your new podcast available for streaming on Spotify and other outlets?

  • @clearlywrong6520
    @clearlywrong652011 ай бұрын

    Hearing about this, I immediately thought back to the WWII stories of the P08 or P38. Though it's been a human tradition for as long as there have been wars, it's a strangely consistent one.

  • @crowe6961

    @crowe6961

    11 ай бұрын

    Symbolism runs in our blood. Seizing an enemy weapon or standard in battle shows that you have successfully defeated them in the field.

  • @eraldsh8842
    @eraldsh884211 ай бұрын

    “You're not Dostoevsky,' said the citizeness, who was getting muddled by Koroviev. Well, who knows, who knows,' he replied. 'Dostoevsky's dead,' said the citizeness, but somehow not very confidently. 'I protest!' Behemoth exclaimed hotly. 'Dostoevsky is immortal!” ― Mikhail Bulgakov, The Master and Margarita

  • @achimelale9974

    @achimelale9974

    11 ай бұрын

    Clinging on to the curtain while firing his browning revolver at the policemen. 😉

  • @Tallmios
    @Tallmios11 ай бұрын

    Where is the podcast? I cannot find it.

  • @khooshalcoonjan2086
    @khooshalcoonjan208611 ай бұрын

    The running effect was preyty nice

  • @GODdank
    @GODdank11 ай бұрын

    Still surprised why the russians don't just use the ak203 instead with a few mods?

  • @salvagedude625

    @salvagedude625

    11 ай бұрын

    ak-200 is the ak-200 series in 5.45, and is pretty much equivalent to the AK-12

  • @tiortedrootsky
    @tiortedrootsky11 ай бұрын

    8:12 i'm pretty sure that 2 round burst is normal 600 rpm as per my rough measurement. Its not a hyper burst. Most importantly, the second round will always go too far above the first one. 3 round burst is much more efficient in term of ammo consumption and accuracy, 1 and 3 rounds can actually go close enough.

  • @Scrapvendor386
    @Scrapvendor38611 ай бұрын

    I wish they committed to finishing the prototype, it just looked so good

  • @user-urmommylikeahoe
    @user-urmommylikeahoe11 ай бұрын

    I'm late but congratulations on one million bro

  • @rhyscruz
    @rhyscruz11 ай бұрын

    Get ready for three more title changes within the next two days

  • @ummonk
    @ummonk11 ай бұрын

    While some of the other Ratnik components should have been prioritized over the rifles, it does make sense to deliver rifles before rail-mounted scopes, since the scopes would be pointless without railed rifles to mount them on.

  • @DinoNucci

    @DinoNucci

    11 ай бұрын

    Did you even try to watch the video?

  • @rodiculous9464

    @rodiculous9464

    11 ай бұрын

    Lmfao, there are tons of both aftermarket and oem mounts that can accept a picatinny scope

  • @mpondachongo1138

    @mpondachongo1138

    11 ай бұрын

    whats the point of giving a soldier an AK-12 if you have no sights to mount on the thing.

  • @vengeanceau
    @vengeanceau11 ай бұрын

    Correction to your video. The AK-12, even with the 2011 to 2015 prototypes never had a "hyper" burst system. It did however had a traditional 2-round burst.

  • @henriquedominguesjocas599
    @henriquedominguesjocas59911 ай бұрын

    A few things about the optics at 6:45, the 1p78 wasn't actually built to be used on the ak-12 but rather on the ak74m just like the 1p63 and uses the typical ak side mount, though it seems like is a 2 piece system, meaning it could be used on a picatinny rail with an adapter, but i've never seen one of those or even if they exist. The ak-12 seems like isn't even used with magnified optics, at least i've never seen a picture of someone using one, only with unmagnified ones like the 1p87, but maybe there's a reason to why

  • @vikan3842
    @vikan384211 ай бұрын

    Does anyone remember the AK-47 from MW2 2009? It looks just like the AK-12. The game predicted the future.

  • @claytoncoughran8702

    @claytoncoughran8702

    11 ай бұрын

    That's like saying bubba predicted the future because he put cheap tapco parts on his wasr10

  • @MashPotatoJohns

    @MashPotatoJohns

    11 ай бұрын

    The handguard kinda looks like the AK12 but other than that you're way off

  • @MilitaryBuff

    @MilitaryBuff

    11 ай бұрын

    How did it predict the future if it featured an AK-47 instead of an AK-12. Sounds to me like they just added an AK-47 and did not get the appearance right not predict anything otherwise it would be called AK-12 or at least not something that had already been invented. Also AK-47 itself is rare the AK that sees global usage is the AKM the modernised version I think. COD did not bother to differentiate.

  • @vikan3842

    @vikan3842

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@MilitaryBuffThat's true, but you have to admit that despite the lack of differentiation and information, they did manage to hint at what a modernized AK would actually look like in hindsight. The magazine, the handguard, the stock.

  • @JACS420

    @JACS420

    11 ай бұрын

    @@vikan3842u guys are dumb it’s just a AK with an EBR style. Like the m14 vs the m14 ebr with rails. They have been around in high speed Russian units since the USA started making optics for rails. Using rail style optics resetting your zero is a none issue. You can buy EBR kits for every battle rifle out there nowadays.

  • @markmitchell457
    @markmitchell45711 ай бұрын

    How do two rounds off target help, no matter how fast they are fired?

  • @DinoNucci

    @DinoNucci

    11 ай бұрын

    Ask ur mom

  • @REAPER1818666
    @REAPER181866610 ай бұрын

    I think the hyper-burst concept is a great idea but hasnt been pulled off successfully yet

  • @Mr.LeoNov
    @Mr.LeoNov11 ай бұрын

    I like that they finally changed the fire selector with more AR-15-like (although I don't understand how it physically works)

  • @christopherblare6414
    @christopherblare641411 ай бұрын

    I absolutely love the GOAT guns ad's ever since you started having to to add the "not actually a real gun" disclaimer

  • @HeisenbergFam
    @HeisenbergFam11 ай бұрын

    18:33 regarding the adoption of the rifle during early days of war, I feel like it would've definitely made a difference

  • @ArchOfficial

    @ArchOfficial

    11 ай бұрын

    It would have significantly lowered Russian casualties, as nobody would have had the courage to engage the enemy with such a piece of crap weapon.

  • @mitrogulf4073

    @mitrogulf4073

    11 ай бұрын

    @@ArchOfficial it's not crap, it just hasn't gotten much better than the AK-74M. Therefore, it is criticized because it is not clear in it what has been usefully changed. The rifle has become just different and not to say that this would help it become better.

  • @ArchOfficial

    @ArchOfficial

    11 ай бұрын

    @@mitrogulf4073 There are significant reliability and usability ramifications compared to the AK-74M, so you could say it has mostly gotten worse.

  • @machdaddy6451
    @machdaddy645111 ай бұрын

    Are AK-12s available on Amazon?

  • @ligmasurvivor5600
    @ligmasurvivor560011 ай бұрын

    u forgot to say that they have already rectified the most crucial problems including removing that useless 2 burst selector, and zenit has developed the sport-12 handguard for the AK-12 that can actually hold zero as well as a new picatinny rail

  • @antman6707
    @antman670711 ай бұрын

    The AK-12 is a good rifle that needs more tweaking like a hinged dust cover so the dust cover rails will hold zero, and make the selector stop bigger so it won't be overrided so easily, and an aluminum handguard so it will hold zero

  • @TheRezro

    @TheRezro

    11 ай бұрын

    Or people could buy Beryl instead

  • @RustedCroaker

    @RustedCroaker

    7 ай бұрын

    @@TheRezro People can't buy the AK-12 anyway, so...

  • @jarveyjaguar4395
    @jarveyjaguar439511 ай бұрын

    What I always find hilarious is that Kalashnikov concer put up a modernization kit for the AK few years back and Larry Vickers actually showed us that kit in one of his videos, it just baffles me how they screwed this up. Like you had million of ideas on how to make a better gun from all these American and Russian companies like Midwest industries, Zenitco, Texas Weapons Systems, Sureshot, SLR rifle works, RS Regulate and some other 100 company out there that you could've taken inspiration from. Instead they went with an AK-400 design as Larry has also shown in one his vids and rebranded it as the AK-12. The amount of money that could've been saved to make some actual good Optics, Night vision kits, Flashlight instead of wasting it on a rifle that is worse than it predecessor is actually shocking.

  • @bbbabrock
    @bbbabrock11 ай бұрын

    7:10 What is that side mounted rail thing about? Prior to that bit, he was talking about mounting a scope. But Ids how one of those could assist w any scope mounting in any way .

  • @mrbloby8806
    @mrbloby880611 ай бұрын

    You using the an 94 from black ops 2 gave me flash backs to a better time

  • @fed0r644
    @fed0r64411 ай бұрын

    As for the fire mode with a burst of 2 shots: the shooters in this mode complained that they were confused in switching modes. If on the version of 2016 and above everything is intuitive (because the switch has been worked out for years), then on the first prototype it was simply not clear which mode you had set now. And in general, the 2-shot burst did not show the promised effectiveness compared to a single fire, so this can be considered another notion of those higher ranks who have never fired from a Kalashnikov in their lives and do not understand the specifics of this rifle. Therefore, it is difficult to call it a downgrade, because the original concept itself and its implementation turned out to be bad. P.S.- such information is provided in the public domain on the "hexagontactical" channel and is provided by a former Izhmash employee who worked on this rifle and fired from it. If you can understand russian language or can somehow translate video, you will learn a lot of interesting things.

  • @ADadSupreme
    @ADadSupreme11 ай бұрын

    Wasn't this the case with the M-16 in Vietnam? I remember seeing vids where vets were saying how much of a piece of junk it was, would jam, (I think) explode, or w/e and even stick with the M-1s. But eventually they overcame it and it became the staple of the US military.

  • @muhammadnursyahmi9440

    @muhammadnursyahmi9440

    11 ай бұрын

    The problem with M16 in Vietnam War are: 1. Wrong powder spec for ammo, causing the rifle to fire a much faster RPM (near 1000 RPM) that it was designed for. 2. No cleaning kit issued for the rifle, somehow some brass in US Army though the rifle is "self-cleaning", whatever that mean. Once they rectified the problem by issuing cleaning kits and chrome-line the chamber and barrel, M16A1 is a great rifle.

  • @sayfolman7752

    @sayfolman7752

    11 ай бұрын

    ​​@@muhammadnursyahmi9440Not Just In Vietnam War, Korean War And Malayan Emergency My Grandfather Told Me He Killed Communist Member By Smashing Using M16 Butt stock In The Head Because His Weapon Got Jammed After Crossing Swamp To Chase Communist He Received 2 Medal For His Effort

  • @muhammadnursyahmi9440

    @muhammadnursyahmi9440

    11 ай бұрын

    @@sayfolman7752 Korean War? In early 1950s where M16 are not in production yet?

  • @AryaWibu

    @AryaWibu

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@muhammadnursyahmi9440 His Grandpa got the super rare early M16 lol. Also don't forget the Malayan Emergency as well, it was during 1948-1960 so yeah..... Anyhow from the story it seems like his Grandpa is Australian/British

  • @CharliMorganMusic

    @CharliMorganMusic

    11 ай бұрын

    No, M-16 was the worst launch in history until No Man's Sky.

  • @vaderdudenator1
    @vaderdudenator110 ай бұрын

    8:31 you sure about that hyper burst mode? I thought that was the one with the pullies and tilted magazine

  • @Durmomo0
    @Durmomo07 ай бұрын

    Dumb question but if the safety selector is too stiff cant they just bend it like on other AKs?

  • @michaelman957
    @michaelman95711 ай бұрын

    Kalishnikov: "Look how they massacred my boy!"

  • @kurtWag
    @kurtWag11 ай бұрын

    AK-12M or AK-12M1 2023, didn't hear? The author did not bother to google the latest news on the topic.

  • @matcomptonful
    @matcomptonful11 ай бұрын

    I'm so glad those GOAT guns are what are keeping you from going mad and losing your mind and us losing you! Where else am I supposed to get my light hearted and informative 20 min breaks!

  • @matcomptonful

    @matcomptonful

    11 ай бұрын

    Just saying you crack me up some times, enjoy you having a laugh and doing you.

  • @Psychol-Snooper
    @Psychol-Snooper10 ай бұрын

    3:00 I have that exact same beer stein. Is it valuable?

  • @nottheizkiz
    @nottheizkiz11 ай бұрын

    0:11 vodka is polish

  • @aesirgaming1014
    @aesirgaming101411 ай бұрын

    Having spent around 15 years in combat arms and contracting, my feeling is that too many countries try to get their service rifle to do too much. Governments want a rifle that can also be a machinegun and a sniper rifle, switch between three different calibers, hold twice its weight in attachments and still be lightweight and maneuverable. Oh, by the way, it also has to be cheap, quick and easy to produce because it's supposed to be a service rifle that will eventually be issued to the majority of the country's hundreds of thousands of soldiers...plus spare rifles, spare parts, etc. It doesn't take a genius to see that some of these aspects are contradictory. First of all, lightweight and maneuverable often involves lightweight components that don't stand up as well to heat and pressure (say the type of heat and pressure generated by an over-pressured sniper round or the heat generated from the sustained automatic fire of a machinegun). Similarly, more components to swap out roles/calibers also means more moving parts, which means more complex logistics lines. It also requires more intense training for soldiers (to make sure they actually know how to put the damn thing together) and leaves a lot more room for operator error. In addition, you need more command/control because otherwise every dumb private out there is going to try to acquire and slap on machinegun parts because it's cool. If there's one thing that privates are really good at, it's acquiring shit they're not supposed to have and the next thing you know, the company has fired its monthly supply of ammunition in day because Joe managed to 'appropriate' a shipment of machinegun conversion parts. Sounds like a joke, but shit like this happens in the military. I'm a big believer in the KISS principle (Keep It Simple Stupid or Keep It Stupid Simple...whichever you prefer). Focus on making a good, reliable rifle and forget trying to stick a dozen bells, whistles and scifi crap onto it.

  • @Max_Da_G

    @Max_Da_G

    11 ай бұрын

    This guy gets it :D

  • @john_in_phoenix
    @john_in_phoenix11 ай бұрын

    The ratnik program built a lot of mansions.

  • @nath9091
    @nath909111 ай бұрын

    I thought the main reason for the AK12 was to improve compatibility with add-ons such as sights, NVG, lights etc which the AK74 wasn't that good at. It sounds like there were problems with construction given these probably didn't have these problems in the prototype models. I can see Russia however switching to the AK103 as India is licensing a fair number of them and these have supposed rail compatibility. I've also seen some people say that the AK12 had a rail but they didn't actually buy the optics now standard in the West for these making the functionality useless.

  • @Prometheus7272

    @Prometheus7272

    11 ай бұрын

    How can India licence the ak103 to the Russians if it's a russian designed weapon? 😂

  • @tetraxis3011

    @tetraxis3011

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Prometheus7272I think that he means that India bought an AK103 production License from Russia.

  • @QuentinofVirginia
    @QuentinofVirginia11 ай бұрын

    The impression I get is that the best of the best Russian operators are using AK-74Ms with Zenitco attachments and parts because they actually hold zero on the sights unlike the AK-12.

  • @dewdew80
    @dewdew8011 ай бұрын

    I love how all these youtubers clearly think these miniature toy guns are hilarious and kinda a joke, but they're all like "eh, I'll peddle it, at least it's not pharmaceuticals". I honestly kinda love it.

  • @seanmiller8756
    @seanmiller875611 ай бұрын

    As far as the captured Ak-12s with no attachments, I think it would be fair to point out the "survivor bias" (or the other way around). Maybe the reason those AKs are being captured is because the units equipped with optics and attachments perform better and run less of a risk of falling into enemy hands. Just a thought, I'm not saying that's 100% the reason.

  • @exploderish
    @exploderish11 ай бұрын

    Saw a vid from somewhere early in the war of a Ukranian showing a potential defect or design flaw on a captured AK-12. He showed that if one is to push the safety selector down somewhat hard (like might occur when stressed in combat), the lever would go past its lowest detent.... an two or more inches past the lower receiver. That would stop the trigger from functioning, which is bad. Obviously, lol. IIRC it was with several examples they'd captured, so not just one single rifle, but I could be misremembering. Take all that with some skepticism... Or maybe someone else remembers, too.

  • @Cam64viper

    @Cam64viper

    11 ай бұрын

    I remember seeing this exact thing too

  • @ivanbardov

    @ivanbardov

    11 ай бұрын

    I remember. Quite a few pics where firing selector was stuck all the way down, almost in line with the trigger. Imagine getting ambushed, adrenaline kicks in, you switch the selector only to find out that its lever gone so far it prevents you from firing the gun. Oof.

  • @y.e.kahunakalash
    @y.e.kahunakalash11 ай бұрын

    Other than the AK74Ms and 100/200 series, Russia's MoD couldve just done a US and pulled a SOPMOD/ Block ll upgrade to their 74s. Logically they could've contracted work from Zenitco and others, push the upgrades to special forces, have them T&E, and then eventually the infantry would receive it. But the Russian MIC wouldnt allow that!

  • @muhammadnursyahmi9440

    @muhammadnursyahmi9440

    11 ай бұрын

    Russian Army are having much more problems than mediocre rifles. The biggest problems are logistics, obsolete heavy weapon equipments such as IFVs, APCs, artilleries, and warfare doctrines.

  • @Myemnhk

    @Myemnhk

    11 ай бұрын

    Literally my exact thoughts, if they just had contracted zenitco to build them rails it would've been so easy and cheap.

  • @muhammadnursyahmi9440

    @muhammadnursyahmi9440

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Myemnhk you forget the widespread corruption in Russia. Shoigu, Gerasimov, Putin need new yachts and mansions, so they graft money from Radnik and other Russian weapon development program. Thankfully those decision bite them hard in the arse, eh?

  • @fifteen8850

    @fifteen8850

    9 ай бұрын

    But they have

  • @toecutterp
    @toecutterp11 ай бұрын

    The break is hard to get off and on. I worked on mine a bit so it's not too bad. I have a Russian adapter for a suppressor but I really don't want a baffle strike. I got mine early for 800 bucks🤣 With the original receiver hand guard add on rails and a AK12 front grip.. That and a 105 kit with receiver for 725. So glad I jumped on it before it blew up.

  • @manifestman132
    @manifestman13211 ай бұрын

    That prototype was awesome and I never really liked what the AK 12 though it did eventually grow on me. I think there is the RPK 16 too to replace the RPK as well as AK 12Ks and 15K (K is probably Karbin ).

  • @Dollar1998
    @Dollar199811 ай бұрын

    AK-12 posses free-float barrel (but not like AR does) and in fact is a bit more accurate than standard 74. dust cover top rail holds zero, but the front grip rails wooble after time, dont put optics on it. Checked in range in Poland, cheers

  • @oneofthoseguys2019

    @oneofthoseguys2019

    11 ай бұрын

    There are free float rails for standard aks

  • @RustedCroaker

    @RustedCroaker

    7 ай бұрын

    @@oneofthoseguys2019 And they're all add a significant weight to the rifle

  • @DasOrmur
    @DasOrmur11 ай бұрын

    The reason the original ak-200 design was scrapped in favor of the ak-400 was because the board in charge of procurement was obsessed with having a completely useless burst fire mode, which bricked the rifle. On top of that there were a ton of unnecessary smaller features here and there they insisted on including on top of that that made everything slightly worse. So even though the original was a superior rifle in just about every way, it ended in Death by Committee.

  • @Gorslax
    @Gorslax11 ай бұрын

    I knew all I wanted to after I saw that kalashnikov video where the handguard lit on fire

  • @willholly1844
    @willholly184411 ай бұрын

    Someone explain to me or show a link that explains how an AK barrel can be free floated. Thank you.

  • @imborad5350
    @imborad535011 ай бұрын

    Hope the platform improves and doesn't get sidelined just because of some initial bad designs or not major improvements compared to its predecessors. It looks cool and the initial concept of a modular system is the right direction.

  • @Grendel650

    @Grendel650

    11 ай бұрын

    I hope the whole platform goes to shite and is still issued. My kinda Russian personal weapon and So very Russian 😂

  • @sergeantnerfsalot2784

    @sergeantnerfsalot2784

    11 ай бұрын

    Never interrupt your enemy when they are fucking up

  • @devildolphin2102

    @devildolphin2102

    11 ай бұрын

    Considering all the money went to mansions or yachts ak12 ain’t getting shite

  • @tetraxis3011

    @tetraxis3011

    11 ай бұрын

    @SparksProxUS pretty much refuses to ditch the M16/M4.

  • @tetraxis3011

    @tetraxis3011

    10 ай бұрын

    @SparksProx The Sig MCX won’t fully replace the M4. It has yet to complete its trial run. Only 6,000 rifles have been bought.

  • @user-wx1rw2sl2z
    @user-wx1rw2sl2z11 ай бұрын

    Not mentioned in the video: new design of the bolt group and trigger mechanism; improved accuracy of fire due to the displacement of the mass of the bolt group and a decrease in the recoil arm; barrel with improved performance in terms of manufacturing accuracy;

  • @simulatedpilot3441
    @simulatedpilot344111 ай бұрын

    From what I understand the two-shot burst is gone, and quite a few other things were updated

  • @slowactiont4
    @slowactiont411 ай бұрын

    the 9:35 (second from right) just shows how 'Enthusiastic" and willing these guys are...

  • @mpcrauzer
    @mpcrauzer11 ай бұрын

    Very understandable, here in Brazil, when we started giving the new IA2 rifle to out troops had many problens, almost the same problens with the AK-12, most likelly in the 7.62x51 version, the 5.56 version was less problematic, apart the polimer been almost rotten and breaking easy

  • @piersonjamesa

    @piersonjamesa

    11 ай бұрын

    Well, blame my ignorance, i didn't know brazil had made their own battle rifle. Do you know of any good English language sources on its development? I just got done with Thorneycraft to SA-80 and would love to find a good source on it. I also still find Portuguese and Spanish translations on the internet to be more stilted than i would expect in 2023. Also fun for Cappy to talk about the IA2 as Brazil is in BRIC for a reason, and i would assume be a valuable weapon supply to other countries if the manufacturing base is there to export (non nato, non russia-china-iran coalition).

  • @tetraxis3011

    @tetraxis3011

    11 ай бұрын

    Something similar happened in Mexico with FX05 mags, the feed lips sometimes would crack if you loaded all 30 rounds.

  • @deamerican49352
    @deamerican4935211 ай бұрын

    Cool mate

  • @johnrivera3365
    @johnrivera336511 ай бұрын

    The Ak got phased out by the tactical shovel 😂

  • @JamesEast-iy3ov
    @JamesEast-iy3ov10 ай бұрын

    Change platform? Is it a different platform?

  • @thereallocke8065
    @thereallocke806511 ай бұрын

    I'd love to see a video about the entire Ratnik system

  • @Womb2DaTomb

    @Womb2DaTomb

    11 ай бұрын

    He's done one already

  • @EVLfreak666
    @EVLfreak66611 ай бұрын

    I laughed my ass off at 5:40 when you said "Russian soldiers that needed to run silent". Even if you're running with sub sonic ammo everyone is still gonna hear you shooting 😂

  • @DinoNucci

    @DinoNucci

    11 ай бұрын

    Wrong

  • @loganbaileysfunwithtrains606

    @loganbaileysfunwithtrains606

    11 ай бұрын

    You’ve clearly not heard suppressed subsonic ammunition coming at you then

  • @DinoNucci

    @DinoNucci

    11 ай бұрын

    @@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606 correct

  • @Asghaad

    @Asghaad

    11 ай бұрын

    @@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606 depends on a suppressor and noone is using subsonic 5.54 ammo - you might as well be shooting 22lr at that point ... suppression has a benefit even on supersonic rounds by the way, because the supersonic crack comes from the BULLET and not the muzzle it conceals the position of the shooter - ideal for ambushes, you will know you are being shot at but not know from WHERE. as for "running silent" they would use either 7.62x39 or 9x39 in subsonic variant and even then you still have pretty loud action of the gun itself and not so perfect supressors on those guns so OP is kinda right, noone is going "movie silent" in real life unless you use bolt action subsonic with top of the line modern supressor.

  • @Suprentus
    @Suprentus11 ай бұрын

    What good would modern optics or a free float barrel do if the rifle can't retain zero?

  • @theduke7539
    @theduke753911 ай бұрын

    The AK12 is underwhelming because its just a modernization of the same design thats been kicking around since 1947. Okay, picture this. The M14 and AK47 were of the same era and used the same level of technology, both even used the M1 Garand as the inspiration for their designs, the function in almost the same way, and were both infantry rifles. In 1964, the US decided the M14 was floundering as an infantry rifle, part of that was its weight and size being based on the 7.62x51 cartridge. and because of that, the US wanted to follow german and soviet ideas for a smaller cartridge, settling on the 222 Remington as their desired round, but they couldnt get the velocity they wanted so they uped it slightly to the 223 Remington, and eventually made a slightly adjusted loading in the 70s as the 5.56 Nato cartridge. However, there were other flaws with the M14, it was unreliable in mud and suffered in jungle climates because the humidity would swell the stock and rust the metal. The AK actually also suffered similar problems but not quite as badly. Ak ultra reliability is mostly a myth, its open receiver allows mud and sand in just like the M14. Difference is the ease of cleaning. So, the Army wanted a gun that stayed sealed and was harder to jam up. They adopted the M16 in 1964, the first models had flaws, and being tossed into vietnam with no logistics network and no real experience on the new weapon proved fatal. By 1970, the M16A1 with upgrades and improvements fixed most of the problems. In 1974, the Russians saw the 5.56 and wanted a round similar in capability, taking their preexisting AKM, which is just an AK47 Type 3 with improved manufacturing techniques, and they down scaled it to 5.45x39. They changed the gas port angle and a few minor features, but at its core, its still the same design with the same core flaws that were never addressed, mainly the open action that allowed mud and dirt in. While the gun was easy to clean out with just your fingers and a canteen of water, the gun still relied on soldiers being extra careful not to get it filled with that mud to prevent stopages in the first place. The M16 went through decades of redesigns, from the M16A2 which gave a better rear sight and a heavier barrel for more reliability and better accuracy, to the M16A3 and A4 which further increased modularity and durability. The A3 and A4 also ushered in the age of combat Optics, which proved in the early 2000s to be the new future of combat small arms. The M4 eventually replaced the M16 as a smaller weapon thats more manageable but functionally the same weapon. However, the AK now has a new problem. While in the age of iron sights, the AK was a fair competitor, even with its unresolved issues, in the age of optics, it falls behind because to mount an optic on an AK means to take away its one saving grace, ease of cleaning in the field. Because if you mount a side rail optic, you will have to rezero that optic every single time you take it of and remount it, or you will have to pull the dust cover off and put it back on without distrubing the optic, a doable task for someone experienced in the system, but no one will claim its fun to do. And if you mount an optic rail on the dust cover, you either have a far more stiff and difficult dust cover to remove or you have an optic mount that moves too freely. Either way, everytime you remove the cover, you have to rezero the optic, while an AR doesnt because the optic, receiver, and barrel never come apart during cleaning. This is where the AR accidentally aged well while the AK hit a wall. Through no fault of the designers, technology and time picked a more adaptable weapon. The AK12 attempts and fails to address any of the core problems of the AK platform. But even if it did somehow manage that, it still wouldnt address the fact that Russia doesnt have the optics to mount on those rifles, meaning that it becomes pointless to issue these ak12s when theyre functionally the same as an AK74M when theres no optic. Falluja proved in 2004 that Optics were a game changer to infantry combat, and Russia unfortunately cannot continue with the AK platform if they want to carry forward into the Optic age. Every AK mounting solution is limited and comes with a sacrifice that an AR or other Nato design simply doesnt have to make. We saw the exact same problem over the decades as the US tried and failed to modernize the M14 several times for roles it simply wasnt designed or suited for. The M21 and Mk14 rifles both functioned, but the time, resources, and money spent to build them was easily several times that of just building AR10 DMRs that would have been more accurate and more reliable. Heres a better analogy, Imagine if instead of the M16, the US military had adopted the Mini14 Ruger as its standard infantry rifle and was in 2023 still using it as their infantry rifle but with a weird scope mounting system to get around the inherent flaws. It would be a joke.

  • @badddkattt

    @badddkattt

    11 ай бұрын

    Thanks for your summary

  • @greenscreennow
    @greenscreennow11 ай бұрын

    If you're reading this comment, salute to you bro 💯 i hope you win in life!

  • @alieninsights4636

    @alieninsights4636

    11 ай бұрын

    Your videos are stunningly underrated 😮

  • @J_X999
    @J_X99911 ай бұрын

    What are everyone's thoughts on the QBZ 191? Chris has made two videos on it, just looking for everyone else's opinions. For me, it seems like a strong, competent rifle which will definitely help China upgrade it's infantry. It's 5.8 caliber so I'm not sure how it'll fare against the XM5 but it's definitely going to have some advantages when looking purely at the caliber.

  • @Peterkass235

    @Peterkass235

    11 ай бұрын

    It’s a great decision for the pla and a solid design. I’m sure it will be most importantly, affordable and quick to produce. The xm5 is a dumpster and terrible choice.

  • @nickhowatson4745

    @nickhowatson4745

    11 ай бұрын

    the Sig Spear is the XM7 now not the XM5

  • @benjammin9745

    @benjammin9745

    11 ай бұрын

    Having a smaller caliber doesn't come with only upsides.. there are downsides too. It's a tradeoff like anything else

  • @maplemaple1439

    @maplemaple1439

    11 ай бұрын

    No matter what it definitely seems like an upgrade to the Type 95

  • @ShortT-RexLikeArms

    @ShortT-RexLikeArms

    11 ай бұрын

    It's basically an improved HK416, setup for the PLA manual of arms.

  • @beastrealgaming3088
    @beastrealgaming308811 ай бұрын

    3.24 "allow me to go back to that time when things was simple". Man in the screen remembering his childhood in Africa as child soldier smiling at remembering the good old time.

  • @miniaturefarmer464
    @miniaturefarmer46410 ай бұрын

    Using the existing AK74M and redesigning the rear sight area to a quick attach platform for a various assortment of optics and sights, would have been the best option. Using a clamp on front quad rail to the barrel like a MI US made one would be a good solution also. Glad they scrapped the 2-round burst. That was a silly idea. A six-position stock would be the least of the design problems.

  • @BatCaveOz
    @BatCaveOz11 ай бұрын

    The AKS-74U aka the "Krinkov" was also a prized status symbol. A certain Bin-Laden used to like getting photographed with one.

  • @user-cv3ec4jx3y

    @user-cv3ec4jx3y

    11 ай бұрын

    Это разные автоматы , под разные калибры . Только в твоём комментарии они стали одним целым 😂😂😂

  • @topgear3128

    @topgear3128

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@user-cv3ec4jx3yавтор видео сказал что ак 12 ценный трофей для украинцев так же как и акс74у был для моджахедов

  • @REVOLVER_NOIR
    @REVOLVER_NOIR11 ай бұрын

    If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. I run all my AK’s with iron sights. They are lightweight and easy to use. Nothing beats a “Nyet, Rifle is fine” style AK 😁👍🏻

  • @muhammadnursyahmi9440

    @muhammadnursyahmi9440

    11 ай бұрын

    Funny how the Israelis managed to modernized the AK platform with Galil ACE, and they achieved all the goals set by Russian Army by several years prior to AK-12 concept being drafted by Russian Army.

  • @Mcfc2Rich
    @Mcfc2Rich4 ай бұрын

    Never seen a more factual gun channel. Love it

  • @nottonyhawk123
    @nottonyhawk12311 ай бұрын

    I think a better option would've been upgrading the ak74. Russian special operations already used zenitco furniture, if the russian army had taken that and mass issued that to their army like the US SOPMOD program I think it would've been a much better and potentially cheaper option

  • @majesticface3631

    @majesticface3631

    11 ай бұрын

    I wonder how big zenitcos operation is. They can’t sell to the US to my knowledge due to sanctions so they may not have a significant amount of manufacturing potential. I’m talking out my ass, but I agree. Zenitco or other modern Russian furniture with high quality optics would make the most sense. I saw a Russian fov with an ak with one of those cheap airsoft red dots we all used in cod. I doubt that will hold up well in combat, but ig it worked for that engagement. Russia could have don’t do much more with so much less. Chinese optics aren’t that bad, they could have bought thousands and thousands of Chinese prism sights and holosuns instead

  • @KrasniyByk

    @KrasniyByk

    11 ай бұрын

    @@majesticface3631 Zenitco handguards and rails are very expensive. Probably more expensive than the rifle itself. Also they add weight to the rifle. All Zenitco's mods you see are bought by soldiers by their own money just like those cheap red dots. As a Russian I know Ministry of defense haven't bought enough sights to use with ak-12 for unknown reasons. So today the government pays enough to the soldiers so they could buy their own sights, nvgs, armor, suppressors that's why you could see everything from cheap chinese airsoft sights to the most expensive thermal vision sights.

  • @nottonyhawk123

    @nottonyhawk123

    11 ай бұрын

    @@majesticface3631 if I remember correctly zenitco just bought a new much larger factory. So they should be able to ramp up production and potentially make it a little cheaper. As for the mass issue, you don't need to fully kit out every gun like a spetsnaz Operator. Just replace the hand guard and dust cover for lasers and optics, stock is perfectly fine as is

  • @nottonyhawk123

    @nottonyhawk123

    11 ай бұрын

    @@KrasniyByk I've been hearing that a lot of the soldiers currently in Ukraine haven't been paid in almost 2 months? Even then they don't get paid as much as there counterparts from other countries like the US

  • @KrasniyByk

    @KrasniyByk

    11 ай бұрын

    @@nottonyhawk123 I can't deny there are some cases of soldiers not being paid correctly. It is usually because of some documents are lost or not being sent correctly by the commanders. This is not like the government doesn't want to pay them. Everything is being sorted out. I know three people in person who are currently fighting, and they are properly paid and equipped. Yes, the payment is lower than in the US, but everything here is way cheaper.

  • @nataliedeyton6829
    @nataliedeyton682911 ай бұрын

    I love AK’s but let’s be honest… it’s not a modern gun .. she’s a old beauty but we have much better options today…

  • @VelikanVLK

    @VelikanVLK

    11 ай бұрын

    The 74 will probably be used in the battlefields of the world for the next century, It is a really good rifle.

  • @princesofthepower3690

    @princesofthepower3690

    11 ай бұрын

    The AK-74 still represents a really good weapon platform especially in times of war where reliability, firepower are required.