Do you believe you should honor your parents no matter what?

@NatashaRaisorGlam

3 жыл бұрын

No, parents need to also honor children. There is no honor in toxicity.

@daniellalove143

3 жыл бұрын

nope!

@josephlovely7759

3 жыл бұрын

That's the kind of relatable conversation, I like seeing the ladies having.

@GF-mj6iq

3 жыл бұрын

Hell No. Parents owe their kids a good life; they choose to be a parent, the kid didn't choose to be born. Respect should go both ways. Too many parents don't see their kids as deserving of the respect they themselves demand. Black Chyna's Mom is obviously toxic & whether or not Chyna says something is her business. BTW, Loni's story made me so sad. I understand being a single parent is hard but what if Loni didn't make it? Loni's mom choose a man over her kid?! Someone shoulda call CPS on her. I'm surprised Loni forgave her.

@marylinehappy8504

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. Don’t confuse honoring and following like a sheep. But my answer is Yes. A parent not behaving well doesn’t mean I have to equally act like a fool. My character and principle have to stand up straight regardless of the situation. It’s tough but with God’s wisdom we will push it through.

PSA: it’s okay to break up with a toxic parent.

@allenpayne927

3 жыл бұрын

All of this

@yadiira

3 жыл бұрын

Yess!

@teresamarie7460

3 жыл бұрын

INDEED INDEED 👏👏👏👏

@Richard-lh3te

3 жыл бұрын

@@allenpayne927 people hate on Blac Chyna but she owns three successful businesses, her mom should be proud.

@Randomgirl6060

3 жыл бұрын

💯💯

I can and can't believe Loni's mother kicked her out over her boyfriend. This is so prevalent in the black community. Now loni is successful and paying for her mothers housing. That's what you call forgiveness.

@nursed.porchae990

3 жыл бұрын

Her heart is so pure and genuine.

@Richard-lh3te

3 жыл бұрын

I can’t imagine how unsafe she must’ve felt going through that

@Mjd.html.

3 жыл бұрын

and thats why her mom is in a senior home

@jasons3759

3 жыл бұрын

All while she makes excuses for her mother.... like it was ok..

@agent_ninety9

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe that how she rationalizes it to get through it. However, she shouldn't criticize other mothers if they come up. You do not bring children in this world to kick them out as children. Terrible. Heart breaks for Loni.

I’m glad Loni forgave her mother, but even with understanding, a 16 year old should not be kicked out for a man

@kimshanique9962

3 жыл бұрын

Loni is light hearted about it but I dont like it. She kicked her out for a man and it didn't even last. It would've been different if Loni wanted to leave and do her own thing, but she was PUT OUT. She even said she was like, "What the hell?" My mom kept all her kids until we was 18, THEN she put our ass out.

@josephlovely7759

3 жыл бұрын

She even said she was not rebellious.

@teresamarie7460

3 жыл бұрын

She put Loni (God's Daughter) in danger and being a single mother is the most ignorant excuse.

@helenmayberry6010

3 жыл бұрын

@@teresamarie7460 I agree..I am a single parent...never would I have done that..I always told whoever I dated I have a daughter...we are a "PACKED DEAL"

@teresamarie7460

3 жыл бұрын

@@helenmayberry6010 INDEED... THANK YOU for being a great Mother 😇.

People like to quote the Bible where it says "children honor thy father and mother", which is true, however people especially parents like to skip over the next verse where its also says "fathers (parents) do not provoke your children unto wrath". It goes both ways

@kendra415

3 жыл бұрын

Speak on it sis!

@Sochilinda

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@keae8202

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly!!!!!! THIS is everything!!! God bless you sis 🙏🏽♥️

@andreaslynn

3 жыл бұрын

Straight facts!! I unfortunately have a parent that I do not associate with for my own peace. Honoring someone else should never result in dishonoring yourself.

@shmonehshmoneh4156

3 жыл бұрын

The mother is wicked and the lord will bless Chyna. Because of what her mother has been doing to her for years. I pray for healing for Blac Chyna.

*I love what Adrienne said. Sometimes you have to honor your parents from a distance.*

@wendyfan8071

3 жыл бұрын

Yes!

@Moyawethu.

3 жыл бұрын

I felt that in my bone !!!

@Fashionpreneurondemand

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@TheRealDaytime

2 жыл бұрын

We love our Ade!

Loni your mother was wrong!! Point blank period that's so horribly SAD!!

@teresamarie7460

3 жыл бұрын

INDEED INDEED 👏👏👏👏

@Mel__21

3 жыл бұрын

Yes she was!! Like I completely understand she went through a whole lot as a single mother. I can’t even imagine doing it all on your own. But you just don’t do that. So what if she had a bf Loni kept bringing that up. Your kids come first always!

@melweathers91

3 жыл бұрын

100%! The reasoning behind it that she gives is just so ridiculous. I can't understand how she even said it like it was perfectly fine. 🤦🏽‍♀️

@teodoraisofache9995

3 жыл бұрын

Right!!! I understand that your parents are your parents and should be respected. At the same time, parents can be toxic and I do not understand what they mean by “you should always honor your parents”. Because, from my perspective, we should honor and respect each other. Parents can not do anything they want just because they are parents and expect you to be happy with them no matter what they do.

@lashondarochell7584

3 жыл бұрын

@@teodoraisofache9995 You hit the nail on the head, My mom is toxic and we don't have a relationship and I am more than okay with that, I didn't want the poison she spews to damage my children.

Tokyo Toni is vile. This is not the first time she's done this. I am no Blac Chyna fan, but I wouldn't wish this humiliation on her or anyone else. Just because you're a parent doesn't make you a true mom or dad.

@candygirl20048

3 жыл бұрын

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

Ummmmmmm! What Loni revealed is EXTREMELY sad. It sounds like she’s saying her mother kicked her out at 16 because she was jealous of her being around her new boyfriend. Wow! She tried to laugh it off but that’s disgusting. I’m A and Garcelle at 5:36 😬😬😬

@marylinehappy8504

3 жыл бұрын

You might be pushing it a little bit. Because she might not have felt comfortable playing around with a man while kids are watching.

@kemery22222

3 жыл бұрын

@@marylinehappy8504 So, you kick your minor teen daughter out of the house to make you and your man more comfortable?

@sappfamtv

3 жыл бұрын

@@kemery22222 you're not pushing it you're spot on hence why Loni was talking about her 16 year old body

@teresamarie7460

3 жыл бұрын

@@marylinehappy8504 You must be joking in poor taste...

@jessicabain6316

3 жыл бұрын

I'm in tears....

I think Loni is subconsciously still suffering from trauma and laughs away her pain so she doesn't have to deal with it. The first thing she said was, "I was 16 and skinny walking around the house so I understand". NO LONI, your "Mom" fucked up!!

@teresamarie7460

3 жыл бұрын

INDEED INDEED 👏👏👏👏

@jessicabain6316

3 жыл бұрын

Big time...

@kinee5116

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like her mom didnt want that man looking at her daughter so she put her out before anything happened. And that makes it worse. U wanna be with a man that u couldn't even trust to be around your own daughter.

@BritneyWaldron

3 жыл бұрын

@@kinee5116 It's sick and disgusting.

@monisethomas9293

3 жыл бұрын

Most comedians have a lot of past trauma...

I'm not sure how Loni could honor her mother after kicking her out at 16 for a boyfriend. Honoring your parent is fine, but it's also ok to call them out on their bullshit, being a parent doesn't give them this shield from being called out.

@tamerilee

3 жыл бұрын

I always say family whatever at the end of the day we’re people and if you’re damaging my peace or messing up my life there’s no exemptions to the rule 🙂

@michellelove34

3 жыл бұрын

Because she understands her mother's vantage point! It may not be right but you have to understand the circumstances. Today we only want validation for our own feelings and forget trying to get to the root of other's pain. That's what makes today's relationships so strained...lack of communication, empathy, and understanding

@jmeiahb2608

3 жыл бұрын

@@michellelove34 I definitely agree. I came to this realization like a year ago. Parents are not super humans.

@michellelove34

3 жыл бұрын

@@jmeiahb2608 Absolutely! And unfortunately we don't understand until WE are in the parent role.

@tobekanomavuka9486

3 жыл бұрын

I love Loni's maturity and how she dealt with her situation. A 16 year old is a child who still needs her parent as much as teenagers think they know it all. I am hoping that she was not kicked to the streets but was sent to live with family as the mother was not capable of taking care of her at the time. She forgave her mother and that is why they still have a respectful relationship to date.Would I do that to my child? NEVER...but I am not her mother and did not walk in her shoes

The fact that Loni normalized her traumatic experience is scary. I feel for her. Wow.

@victoriagalexis8106

3 жыл бұрын

Its called denial. She’s playing it off like it’s haha but it hurts deep down inside. I wouldn’t be able to forgive my mom at all, like ur child is more important, but sadly there are parents like that

Older ppl don't wanna be called out by younger ppl. When u point out their fkd up ways they wanna cry disrespect.

@sterlingjoseph4385

3 жыл бұрын

You are right. Some of them are so full of themselves. You think after living a full life, it would humble them to accept critique but alas no!

@Tina-us1tr

3 жыл бұрын

💯

What Loni’s mom is literally against the law. Her LEGAL RESPONSIBILITY is to take care of the child SHE BROUGHT into the world. Like she can’t just wake up and decide she’s tired of taking care of her own child. She could’ve waiting at least till you were 18. Absolutely trifling😔

@teresamarie7460

3 жыл бұрын

INDEED INDEED👏👏👏👏... Stating her mother knew she could take care of herself is a sorrowful justification. How could Loni afford her own place even in a drug infested Project Community?

Loni: Your mother was DEAD WRONG!!!!! How DARE she reject her teen daughter for a BOYfriend! SMH

Ugh Lonnie No Ma’am. That isn’t an excuse , good girl or not, that was your mother, kids come first. Not ok. We need to stop excusing bad behavior just because oh she was young, she was tired. (Same for dads too)

Lonnie, sending you prayers. But your mother had no excuse to through out a 16 year old. Shout out to Tasha K🍷🍷🍷

@jumokeonifade85

3 жыл бұрын

I’m not sure how I feel about the way she trivialised her being kicked out, it’s good that she forgives her but it’s never ever acceptable to kick a 16 year old child especially because of a man in any generation.

@sappfamtv

3 жыл бұрын

@@jumokeonifade85 yea it sucks how she said she "understood" why she did it there's nothing to understand about it I also don't believe that she never resented her either she was getting choked up talking about it trying to laugh the pain away

@christylouis2611

3 жыл бұрын

Especially for a man? Wow!

@audreyc1091

3 жыл бұрын

@@christylouis2611 Thats extreme insecure behaviour, so sad

@basketballbabe03

3 жыл бұрын

Loni's mom was wrong for that.

I feel loni making excuses for her mother

@teresamarie7460

3 жыл бұрын

@@imaversil6276 VERY WELL STATED 👏👏👏👏

@Tam...

3 жыл бұрын

No wonder she has so many self esteem issues smh...

@llbabygirl1528

3 жыл бұрын

@@Rio_Monique you talking to me?

@llbabygirl1528

3 жыл бұрын

@@Rio_Monique Oh lol

@Mel__21

3 жыл бұрын

Just like how Jeannie does with her mom

The Bible says honor your mother and father and it also tells fathers to not provoke their children to anger but to bring them up in discipline and instruction of the Lord. Ephesians 6:4

@jumokeonifade85

3 жыл бұрын

People always forget about that part of the scripture

@sonyvalencia

3 жыл бұрын

You don't not honor anyone that abuses you. I don't care if they're your parents.

@alex_n215

3 жыл бұрын

@@sonyvalencia Yes, that’s true. I think the person was just pointing out how parents will quote “honor your mother and father” and not acknowledge the second part.

@loveheals9733

3 жыл бұрын

Black dads don't stick around long enough..

Ade it's not a matter of IF you have kids, it's a matter of WHEN you have kids. Definitely sending prayers💓💓💓

Loni I had six children and a single parent and sent 5 to college

@maame6224

3 жыл бұрын

👏👏👏👏

@melissalitus8879

3 жыл бұрын

Sheesh! You are doing it big congrats 💯

I just need y’all to apologize for ever having Tokyo on the show. She’s exposed abusive, toxic behavior towards her daughter for years and y’all still gave her the time of day.

@teresamarie7460

3 жыл бұрын

INDEED... They should have watched Tokyo on Tasha K before inviting her to The Real for the sake of viewers who are not complicit in diabolical parenting.

just because someone gave birth to you or helped create you, that doesn't mean they're your parents. Some people don't deserve to have kids and its okay to separate yourself from your parents if its toxic

In all honesty that’s so sad how Lonis mother kicked her out, it’s crazy how strong Loni is, and how she’s not upset with her! If my mother kicked me out at 15 I would be so upset, that’s not right her mother literally picked a man over her daughter

Blac is living a life that Tokyo Toni has always wanted to live She's jealous

@stonerbaby895

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly!! She's bitter and jealous that chyna cut her off!! If I was chyna I'd leave her were she is to rot!!

@JNante

3 жыл бұрын

Observing this toxicity it appears what would make her mom proud is if her daughter 💸 her up or at least direct her to getting her own shine/fame, she feels an entitlement. She would most likely then stop talking about her on social media. What's sad is it seems (from the outside looking in) she thinks shaming her will make her give $$ support. They are both hurt people and need some serious long term private therapy. Unfortunately I don't think either would really listen or hear because they both believe themselves to be right from their individual perspectives. It's really a sad situation to see played out.

@420tpj4

3 жыл бұрын

Her mom is disgusting. I hate how she talk to her.

@AnnaLexi

3 жыл бұрын

*_Yeah I agree!! I believe it’s pure jealousy!! Remember they’re only 17 years apart!! So they’re more like sisters 👯‍♀️ not like mother/daughter.. I think Ms. Tokyo is jealous of her daughters success!!_*

I just remembered when they were talking recently about moms treating their boys better than their daughters and Loni almost cried saying she went thru that and that’s why she’s for 2 parent households 🥺 single mothers go thru the most but I’m not throwing my kid out for a bf. If something happened to Loni, was the man worth it??!

@wendyfan8071

3 жыл бұрын

I remember that..yes so true!! I feel every episode we have similar thoughts! Always see you & say exactly 😄

@tamerilee

3 жыл бұрын

@@wendyfan8071 great minds think alike 😁

@wendyfan8071

3 жыл бұрын

@@tamerilee 🙂

@sonyvalencia

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, because they can't get attention from any other men.(sick weird mom)

@omphilemoerane2569

3 жыл бұрын

2 parent household my a**! I was brought up by a single mom. She dated but I've never so much as seen a man spend the night at our home, let alone move him in and kick me out. Loni's mom was just desperate for a man. There is no excuse for what she did.

If I was Loni I would have forgotten that was my mother

I don’t know Loni. A 16 year old is still a child and if I have a baby I wont kick me kid out so I can have a good time with my boyfriend and I would never be with someone that could look at my child in a predatory way. I am so sorry Loni that this happened to you. My mom was scared to bring in another man because she was scared that something would happen to us girls and she always said if he makes you uncomfortable you tell me and I believe you. And I knew she would believe me because she also raised me to not lie about that so she knew I wouldn’t make up such a story. Nothing ever happened thank god. Loni I applaud you for forgiving her but what your mom did. That is just sad.

@omphilemoerane2569

3 жыл бұрын

Poor Loni. That creep was probably checking her out, mom peeped that, got jealous and kicked Loni out. So so so so sad😒

@victoriagalexis8106

3 жыл бұрын

@@omphilemoerane2569 same with my mom she never brought a man home cuz she was afraid of what the person was capable

Loni talking about she understood her moms choice cause she was a skinny 16 year old, um loni you were a minor, your mom shouldn’t see you as a possible distraction or competition for her adult boyfriend. That’s beyond toxic, out of all the possible reasons to kick out a child, doing it simply because you have a new boyfriend, there’s no excuse for that. There’s no understanding you mom disposed of you for a man for no reason that’s ridiculous

@omphilemoerane2569

3 жыл бұрын

I think it also had to do with the times. Remember, back then it was quite the norm for a significantly older man to date a younger woman (sometimes even encouraged) so I can see why Loni's mom saw her as competition. Today an older man dating a teen is an outrage.

@imaversil6276

3 жыл бұрын

@@omphilemoerane2569 a young woman is not a 16 year old teen who is a sophomore in high school. And a mom shouldn’t be with a man who would find interest in her own daughter

@omphilemoerane2569

3 жыл бұрын

@@imaversil6276 true! By young woman I meant a teenager. Just look how everyone is shocked now by the fact that Monica, Brandy and Aaliya were dating grown men as teenagers but no one saw an issue with it back then, well perhaps with the exception of Aaliaya and that was only because she took it a step further and actually married R Kelly.

@imaversil6276

3 жыл бұрын

@@omphilemoerane2569 I don’t think it was deemed acceptable, I think there were a select few cases and from what I know in brandy and Aaliyah situation they both kept it secretive for a while and when it got out they did face criticism and backlash. But I don’t know what’s more repulsive to me loni kicking out her daughter over a random man, and from what I heard they didn’t even stay together for long so it was a waste, or a mom seeing her daughter as competition even if loni was actually grown you shouldn’t distance yourself from your daughter cuz you chose a man who would even think to cross that boundary of getting with your daughter. That’s crazy to me that she was so disposable like that

@missdee7045

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a script for 'Precious' part 2.

I understand better why Loni is a certain way sometimes. She been through a lot. When u don't have unconditional love from ur mother..Man this is hard in life...

No...your mother was wrong Loni. But I’m happy that you’ve risen above it🙏🏾

Loni is incredible. I love my mom... but I honestly don't think I would forgive her if she kicked me out at 16 y.o. for a boyfriend.

That's sick. She kicked her own kid out for a dude. There's nothing "understandable" about that.

TBH it’s foul of Loni’s mom to kick her young daughter out of the house because of a MAN... smh

TOKYO is JEALOUS of her daughter Black Chyna. Unfortunately just because you're a Mom doesn't mean your a good person. She raised a daughter whose Successful. Not asking for MONEY but making her own. You as a Mom instead of Compliments you are criticizing. Shame on you.

If my mum kicked me out at such a young age I would never be able to forget or forgive her.

@teresamarie7460

3 жыл бұрын

INDEED... Your way of thinking will help eradicate diabolical parenting. 👏👏👏👏

My mother, who was the 2nd eldest and 1st girl of 13 children, went through many traumas during her childhood and some horrific such as, fgm, physical and mental abuse (brutal beatings from her father), child labor (which was considered normal back then) and had to forfeit education as she worked from the age of 6 to take care of the rest of the family, she got married off early (she chose somebody else than the selected one just to spite her father and feel like she had some type of a decision). When she raised me, she made a conscious decision to not repeat the cycle. She ran away with me when mentions of circumcision arose, she never hit me, never even yelled at me in an abusive way. When we fled our country for safety and landed in the West she made sure education was priority #1, she never forced me into the kitchen she just taught me skills, she never mentioned marriage until I started talking about it, she let me enjoy life to the fullest. She let me travel, I never had to hand in pay checks (I still splurged on her and helped financially without her asking), she let me enjoy the fruits of my own labor. I say all this to say that, although it's true that trauma scars us, it's still up to the individual to learn from their past and decide how they are going to live their lives and break generational curses with their own children. Sometimes it's too easy to let in to anger and just blame the past. And I am forever indebted and grateful for and to her, who chose otherwise and changed my life for the better.

@teresamarie7460

3 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU and PLEASE keep sharing such an INSPIRATIONAL story. 😇❤

@OumTHMDY

3 жыл бұрын

@@teresamarie7460 thank you!🌹

@sterlingjoseph4385

3 жыл бұрын

Your mother did a great job and you are the proof.

@irisrivera2390

3 жыл бұрын

This is so beautiful you are blessed with a mom like that

@OumTHMDY

3 жыл бұрын

@@sterlingjoseph4385 She really did. Thank you!

Look at you Loni, I don't always agree with you....I am so proud of you! Picking yourself up, graduating from college ..(HBCU)...going on to be a engineer...and a career in Television...WAY TO GO👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

Loni...you tried to laugh it off but that’s sad af hun I would not be able to forgive my mother picking a random ass dude over me she’s strong af for forgiving that

It is alright to let go of parent daughter relationship when it comes to toxic relationship between two people.

I don't agree with Adrienne about honoring parents even from a distance especially if there is a level of toxicity to the relationship that the child should not have to continue to engage with. Sometimes you have to cut off contact completely with a parent for the sake of your own well being and move on with your life and leave them behind. I saw it with my mom who up until the day she died was a better parent to me and my brothers than what she had growing up because she was determined to break the cycle of abuse and neglect she experienced which was heartbreaking to have an understanding about

@helenmayberry6010

3 жыл бұрын

Adrienne let the host finish what they are saying without interrupting...just repeating herself

@jrunnels04

3 жыл бұрын

@@helenmayberry6010 it was my understanding that she was implying that it is okay to walk away or “move along” from a parent when you need to

Loni is blind about what her mom did. It's a coping mechanism... Some women don't deserve motherhood. What a horrible thing to do. I would never forgive that. That's the ultimate treason.

Wow. That’s sad that Lonis mom did that to her and she never resented her for doing that.!! Proud of Loni for being the bigger person and going on w her life.

How did they just glide over Loni's mom kicking her out at 16?? Bruh that's heavy.

Okay, I get what Loni is intending to say in terms of her forgiving her mother for kicking her out when she was 16, but I really wish she wouldn't try to put that as an example of "honoring your mother". What her mother did was absolutely unacceptable, and if she wanted nothing to do with her and cut her out of her life for being toxic like that, she would have every right to do so, even biblically. We need to stop, especially within the black community, pushing this narrative that your parents can be as toxic and abusive as they want to be, and if you decide you don't want to deal with that and want nothing to do with them as a result, you are somehow disrespecting them and that God won't bless you if you don't put up and shut up with their mistreatment. honoring your parent does not mean having to take their abuse and deal with it, because the Bible also says do not provoke your children to Wrath, lest they become angry or discourage. But sadly that bible scripture is almost never mentioned when talking about parenting as a Christian. The Bible also says that if the eye causes you to sin pluck it out, and if the hand causes you to sin to cut it off. It wasn't meaning for us to mutilate ourselves, it was meaning that if we are attached To someone or something in our life that is not good for us, to get rid of it. I think that needs to be said and put out there. If you are dealing with someone, parent included, who is bad for you and toxic, you do not have to deal with it and what has happened. You do have the right to cut that relationship off If it's for your better. it was big of Loni to forgive her mom and try to have understanding for what she did, but while forgiveness is required in order for you to grow and heal , it is not required that we understand someone else's perspective when they do you dirty and let them in for more.

@teresamarie7460

3 жыл бұрын

VERY WELL STATED 👏👏👏👏❤... Funny how people with platforms hardly ever respond like THIS.

Be careful about quoting the Bible "Honor Thy Mother/Father" because you are encouraging people who are and have been violated by parents to remain silent and repeat vicious cycles.

@MaishaOnTop

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@jumokeonifade85

3 жыл бұрын

You should read the next part of the scripture, it actually goes both ways, parents just try to ignore that part

@teresamarie7460

3 жыл бұрын

@@MaishaOnTop 😇

@teresamarie7460

3 жыл бұрын

@@jumokeonifade85 INDEED... Funny how majority of people don't mention that quote.

@Tam...

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!! This is promoting and excusing abuse and protecting the abuser..sick!!

Tokyo the type to sue her daughter claiming she stole her style

This explains so much about Loni. Oh Loni, your mom was wrong. My heart breaks for 16 year old Loni.

Loni got the deepest routed pain on this panel and she bury's it with laughter. Any therapist would call bs on her not feeling or never having felt resentment. What I'm learning is you have to leave ppl where they are. You have to accept them as they come or cut ties. Set boundaries but know that they wont change. The Mother / Daughter relationship is so unique.

When I read her book at that moment you can feel her hurt. I understand she was suffering but giving the meal to that guy knowing her baby can’t even eat and is always hungry breaks my heart.. Not normal . Not choosing a gigolo against your daughter. That’s really messed up. I wouldn’t forgive her. And the Bible enable that kind of behavior. It’s your right to move on from your blood if they cause you more trauma than people not related to you. Insane.

@rfield4308

3 жыл бұрын

The bible said parents should teach their child well

@crankin21guns

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with most of what you’re saying it’s so sad. However, The Bible doesn’t enable toxic parental behavior in fact in Ephesians 6:4 it says that “fathers shouldn’t provoke their children to wrath but bring them up in the discipline and instruction of the Lord”. Meaning parents must also respect their children. Two way street.

@alexandraanderson3988

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I was just about to say I hope her mom was probably in her book cause that mush have been so tragic and painful for her I can't even imagine wow

Loni only forgave her mom because she believes that she turned out fine and became successful despite what her mom did so she's conditioned herself to believe that what her mom did to her was "necessary" for her growth and for her to have attained the success that she has. This is a tactic used by a lot of people who go through traumatic experiences to help them cope with what happened to them. You convince yourself that what happened to you helped you in some way and was something you "needed" to go through. Also, Loni's statement about how she was thin when her mom kicked her out would seem to suggest that her mom was threatened by her because she was thin and she would have been an attractive young female in the boyfriend's eyes. I wonder if Loni started to gain weight and held onto it for so long because of this traumatic event. She most likely associates being skinny with abandonment. It would make sense for her to have gained weight after this event in her life. And before anyone comes at me, no, I'm not saying that all weight gain is caused by a traumatic event! But, for some people, it can be caused by a traumatic event.

@teresamarie7460

3 жыл бұрын

INDEED INDEED 👏👏👏👏... Should I assume you are a fellow well versed Mental Health Professional 😊. In any case, I appreciate you for taking the time to thoroughly explain THIS parent-child dynamic. 😇❤

@signalfire15

3 жыл бұрын

@@teresamarie7460 No, I'm an accountant. I do taxes for a living lolol. But I find human behavior to be fascinating so studying psychology is a hobby of mine :) Thanks for the comment!

@teresamarie7460

3 жыл бұрын

@@signalfire15 INDEED... I will still make a wish to the Universe that it becomes more than a hobby 😊.

@signalfire15

3 жыл бұрын

@@teresamarie7460 haha, maybe one day!!

@irisrivera2390

3 жыл бұрын

Wauw that’s what I was thinking about her weight gain.

Omg imagine kicking your child out for a boyfriend. Must be hurtful. That is crazy. Loni is amazing

Loni is so strong, my gosh. Her mother did her wrong. I couldn’t forgive my moms for choosing a man over me.

What Loni revealed is pretty toxic and sad. I hope she has/is talking to her therapist about that. Because saying you don’t resent it at all seems not 100% true. She can get over it and that is healthy but engaging with her 16-year-old self and what her mother did is healthy for healing from the trauma. She doesn’t have to reveal her process but since she revealed the story it’s up for peoples opinions.

@BTMos

3 жыл бұрын

But also Loni’s forgiveness of her mother is not for everybody and not everybody has to go through the process of just being OK with their parent kicking them out at 16. How she chose to deal with it is her choice but that is not the choice that everyone has to or should make. Your parents are people and you can forgive them or you can walk away from them If they serve nothing but a toxic role in your life. Parental love should be unconditional but that does not mean it always is.

Let me tell you something that is a harsh reality. Not all mother's love their daughters they see them as competition.(especially when they hit puberty) Some mother's use their power to mess with their children. They gaslight them with their thoughts and other things just like the movie called Gaslight. They love breaking thier daughters boundaries they love control. The narcissistic mother loves fear mongering to gain control over a person. They love playing mind games especially the covert mother. If you were raised by this mother you were not loved you must must love yourself to heal.(you will not get that love from them)

Everybody looks GOOD today!!!

Jeanie always coming through with the facts

Thank you so much for sincerely sharing your stories ladies! I have been and still struggle with this for years now.. having open conversations like this with women who share similar stories about their mothers, really does feel like therapy.

If we're going to quote the Bible, we need to quote all of it. Abusive parents love quoting the verse, Honor your father and mother, yet they forget to quote the verse that says, Fathers, do not provoke your children to anger, instead, bring them up in the training and instruction of the Lord. Using the Bible to manipulate anyone into staying in an abusive relationship is a gross tactic. The Bible also says a man's enemies will be the members of his own household. The people in your household; parents in Loni's case who have a responsibility to raise you can do a lot of damage. Living with a savior complex like Loni is and accepting what you wouldn't otherwise accept because you want to show how good of a person you are is sad.

From Kansas, I was without water for 3 day. Temperatures in the negatives, but this show took my mind off it!

It's unbelievable how much we learn about each of the co-hosts despite listening to them for years. It really broke my heart to hear about what Loni said. There's absolutely no excuse for a mother to put her well-behaved 16 year old girl out, that too for a man???!! How does that make sense? I wish they could have talked about that a bit more but Loni may have only wanted to share that much. I pray that Loni's soul can heal and for all the young girls whose mother's neglect them like that. This really proves that no one ever knows what really has happened in someone else's life. We love you, Loni ♥️

Loni “ I was 16 and the smallest I’ve ever been.” What?!?! Let me tell you right now, if your mother is jealous of you over a sexual partner or for any reason, that is a HUGE problem! If you can not trust a situation with your 16 year old daughter being around your man, it’s your mans fault!! Something is wrong with him !

Man I felt Jeannie's point so much. My mom is a immigrant and we have that same relationship and all I want is to go to therapy with her but she's not open to it either smh Loni's story is so sad but so common its sad how much we tolerate because someones blood.

We somewhat touched on this conversation before about what shouldn’t happen when it comes to family things that happen amongst family members privately and become public... I honestly think in this particular case... Blac Chyna whole platform is built off of being unapologetically herself and real... I mean this to me is not news that her mother is being kind of toxic towards her... when she did her reality show on Zeus I believe it showed how bad their relationship is... not only that I think even during therapy sessions we seen that her mother didn’t really take accountability or even own any of her wrongdoings as a mother... to me children emulate or become who they are because of their parents and that can be good or end up bad... and seeing that they have tried working on their relationship and see that they are ina space where her mother feels talking about her in this manner just isn’t right to me... I feel for anyone who has parents that belittle them or speak ill of them... I think at some point when you’re an adult you have to choose to just move on once it feels like trying to make it work just isn’t working any more... you can wish them well , you can pray and hope for the best & just love from a far!

What is WRONG with the World is BILLIONS of people believe they are God… Also Known As PARENTS. Yet, they don’t possess Agape, Wisdom, Discernment, Grace, and Mercy. A child or others “calling parents out” is God reminding them to do better by HIS Child(ren). Parents ARE NOT God.

Lonnie that isn't right. That is not normal and please don't normalize a mother kicking out a daughter at 16 for a man. She was still your mother first and foremost! I am glad you forgave her and your successful but there are young Impressionable watching you. With love.

@teresamarie7460

3 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU 👏👏👏👏

That’s why I love Kardashians, no matter what they all stick together and stand up for each other! Unlike Chyna’s mother!

Firts mama mai did not believe jeannie and now lonie's story...wow..both women you are strong🙏😘

this helped me a ton. I get a stomach ache when I go to visit my mom. I want to but the moment I step in her house I regret it. she makes me feel so unwanted.

Does anyone know where Adrienne’s blouse is from?

more topics and conversations like this pls! i miss the old girl chats when they used to open up about their childhood, young adulthood, family/friends problems, mistakes, etc.

@kgomes1126

3 жыл бұрын

Yes please, everything seems so political and scripted right now

Yesss Jeannie!! The facts!!! Understanding where they came from can really help you to understand your parents perspective!

I’m from Texas and still watching thank you ladies 🙏🏽🙌🏽❤️♥️😍🥺

So ironic, my mom and I recently went through something that had to do with this conversation, I'm going to share this with her and see what she thinks, as well as the therapy! The Real is always coming through right on time 💯👯🏽‍♀️

Another amazing conversation. I loved this topic!! I love them sharing their own experiences.

I wonder what foundation they are using its sooo matte it will help me to know as a makeup artist❤

Loni really has been killin the fashion game during the quarantine

Everything Jeannie said at the end is so true 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Great episode. One of the deepest, freshest, and aware-worthy topics in a while. Great job, ladies!

Love how A was able to expand on her point, which then let Loni and Garcelle understand her point! These ladies are so present and listening to each other!

You can see who went to therapy just from this segment. Not shaming those who haven’t went but it’s okay to be mad at a parent for mistreating and abusing you like Tokyo Toni is doing. That anger is a healthy part of the grieving process. I’m so proud of Jeannie for seeking therapy and also for the other cohosts who are advocating for it.

Loni making excuses for her moma there's no way I'm kicking my child out for a man

I'm sorry but I do NOT like the parenting culture in the Black community whether in America, Africa, or Europe.

@heseni2877

3 жыл бұрын

Not everyone is the same 🙄

@morganmorgan884

3 жыл бұрын

Dont put all black people in a box. Because we all are not the same. What race are you??

@crankin21guns

3 жыл бұрын

I’m African American so I can only speak on my country. From experience, I don’t like a lot of toxic behaviors that happen in the African American parenting culture. However, please do not assume every black parent is toxic. That’s stereotyping. There are many great black parents that treat their family’s right. Also, there’s toxic parenting culture in every race not just in the black community.

Love this! This one hit home!

Jeannie totally forgot about this topic 😂 hope her and mama Mai work it out

Everybody else in America:🥶❄️😰 Me in Florida:🥵👀🏖 But besides the weather. No matter what you go through with your family I don’t think it should be aired out on social media like what Chyna’s mother did

I wonder if Loni’s mom kicked her out because she was scared her boyfriend would make a move on her daughter.

@dashelledisna6239

3 жыл бұрын

That’s exactly what it was!

@alexandraanderson3988

2 жыл бұрын

It doesn'rt matter that should be no excuse if that was the case kick him out and let her stay smh😕

Jennie you are preaching 👏 to me!! I do think this is also correlated with race. I have so much negative feelings towards my mother but she lives with me.

Loni always looks so fly

I experienced what Jeanie is saying and Loni took my mom always tells me to go to my father's house anytime I talk back at her😂😂😂😂

Lonie big hugs from Norway🤗😍

Out of the 6 years i've watched this show, i have never seen Loni reveal that wow that must have been hard. She loves her mother deeply so I guess she really did forgive her but there is no excuse.

Well Loni with that word!!! Honour does not necessarily mean love! DEEP!

The mom/daughter dynamic might and can be tricky if the constitution of such relation was shaken from the start. That does not make it ok to disrespect em. I also would say expressing, setting clear boundaries isn't a demonstration of lack of respect rather self-respect and the need to create a space for conversation without any lines being overstep when tensions are high or misinterpretations into what is being said versus complete honesty. I've come to believe the hugest and most often mistake (parent/child) when communicating is the unrealistic expectations and the perception of a mom has in fulfilling her role in the child's life. Establishing a healthy dynamic would factor in past childhood experiences of what was seen as the example and how they know, esteem the child.

Loni's set up looks so cozy and nice 😍

Loni you have a golden heart 💛. You're such a great person. I really admire you

Loni looks so pretty.

As a divorced mom I never moved a man in or put my kids out over a man. I don’t get it.....kids don’t ask to come here.....we bring them here.

You ladies are beautiful.

Loni, don’t justify your mother’s actions.