MIKUEXPO COSPLAY CONCRUNCH VIDEO HERE; ❤ kzread.info/dash/bejne/gWSI3I9xebrMk5M.htmlsi=mrm6EtmkLyXIRV1D

I was so close to getting tickets. This was SO close to being my first Miku Expo, but life got in the way and I missed out. Now that all this coverage of the expo is coming out, I’m starting to think it was divine intervention

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

I missed out on the one in 2016 and was CRUSHED for years! Your time will come I promise ❤️

I did not beat cancer and survive an organ transplant only to have the first Vocaloid concert I go to after 11 years to be this TV screen garbage. My VIP ass is showing up drunk with a laser pointer if it gets any worse.

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

I 100% support, I hope you have a great time!! Congratulations by the way! 🥳

Before the tour happened the Miku and Rin Twitter accounts had a mini fight so my personal headcanon is that Rin sabotage the event and incapacitated Miku somehow

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

The whole thing is just Rin in a Miku wig trying to cover up the murder 😂 😂

@katethevampire

Ай бұрын

@@CourageousGoldfish she can't keep getting away with this!!

@JustMatsu

Ай бұрын

wait really? Do you have a link?

@loftvh

Ай бұрын

Cant believe rin foold every1

@hatsunemikufanandfriendsve7817

Ай бұрын

Teto was the real mastermind

I HIGHLY recommend not buying next expo tickets until we see evidence of just better in general. I fully expect this to be my 1st and last Miku Expo which is sad because ive been a fan since the 2010s also.

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

You’re definitely not the only one! There’s something to be said about not encouraging this behaviour. If we suck it up collectively and still give them our money, the message that sends is that they can do whatever they want and we’ll still support because we love Miku. Really unfortunate because Miku Expo is kind of the only North American hope for live shows!

@tamarasphone9743

Ай бұрын

@@CourageousGoldfish I wouldn't put all your eggs in the Miku Expo basket I've been hearing of people making fan concerts. Some already exist in other parts of the world like MikuFes and they still use the hologram.

@another-niko-pfp-holder

Ай бұрын

@@tamarasphone9743i only found info for mikufes in japan, are there concerts outside it?

@dogofchaos

Ай бұрын

same here! I've been waiting for a Miku concert since 2010ish. But with IAMF cancelled in Europe and this concert having only FIVE European locations, I don't think I'll ever see a real hologram concert in my lifetime. Right now I don't have enough money saved to travel and book a hotel in any of the touring countries, but this whole lcd debacle at least a bit makes me glad that this won't be my first Miku concert.

CR seems to be getting greedy and sloppy these days. As a fellow casual, it’s been insane hearing about this 😭 Like how do you fail this hard on a MIKU event???

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Exactly, right?? My guess is this is much less of a Crypton problem and more of a Crunchyroll screwup. The internal communication seems pretty sparse.

@gorkipork4112

Ай бұрын

​@@CourageousGoldfish I just saw an article about the situation on business insider where a Person from Crypton stated that they hear the fans and that the LED is for the whole tour including Europe...

@oomomomee

Ай бұрын

it's not really a crunchyroll thing... I'd love to blame them but crypton is trying to switch to LED screens, as seen with mikufes and the statement about future expos in europe.

Canada miku kidnapping arc Global glowstick shortage No hologram thats whats up

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Like a wild season of an anime 😭

@theeperson3764

Ай бұрын

Broken LED squares, Vancouver piss on the floor, Elmo and the San Jose hit and run

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

@@theeperson3764 the San Jose WHAT NOW??

@4thWithABudget

Ай бұрын

THE TINDER, MINORI PJSK GACHA PULLS, FAMILY GUY AND SUBWAY SURFERS BEFORE THE SHOW AND SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG CHANTS AT PHOENIX

@GABiHatchiiwa

Ай бұрын

@@CourageousGoldfish some dude swerved into the line going into the San Diego venue, the car hit the barriers and lost their license plate which the fans picked up and started posing pictures with as a "f u" move

I'm not 100% sure, but I believe that it was stated on the website that Miku would be a hologram, so it's not actually a legal grey area, they just straight up lied to us. Edit: found out this isn’t true

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

WHAAAT no way! I couldn’t find anything that specifically said it, maybe they were edited after too? That’s so scummy.

@Cl0udyang3ls

Ай бұрын

😱

@galacula

Ай бұрын

it wasn't stated on the website, some venues stated it would be a hologram, but all of the pictures on the miku expo website are of the hologram!

@another-niko-pfp-holder

Ай бұрын

@@CourageousGoldfish they did edit it after, at least if you're to believe reddit comments

@mirynth

Ай бұрын

I do remember them stating it will be a hologram in the guidelines against bringing our own penlights because bringing unofficial penlights would "disrupt the hologram experience" or something to that effect

Phoenix leg attendee here! This Miku Expo was my first Vocaloid concert ever (and my first 'large' concert experience). Here are some of my main thoughts! - We drove out from Tucson and got to the area around...12:30 or so in the afternoon knowing that the merch tent would open at 2. When we looked on Twitter at the official account, we could already see messages from people that had been in line for merch since, like, 8 in the morning. Having already heard about the whole lightstick fiasco, my hopes for getting one disappeared almost immediately. I still got in the line, however. Said line wrapped around the side of the building, then followed the back wall and then stretched back along the parking lot. After a quick lunch and some shopping, we'd got to the venue at around 3:00 and the line was that long. We wouldn't leave the line until 7:04. Now, I'd never been to a concert, but I was aware that waiting would probably be a thing and queueing was already on my mind so that wasn't the issue. For me the issue was the complete lack of communication from the merch team and their apparent lack of will to work. My two friends and I kept on switching between going up to the tent to see whatever was left and we just couldn't understand why the line was moving SO slowly. There were a lot of people, yes, but the pace at which that line was moving was, to me, ridiculous. It shouldn't take that long to get to the tent, choose what you want, put your card in (cashless event) and then go. And I've worked lines, lmao. Unless people were leaving their spot in line or having a friend save it, there wasn't really a way to know what was officially left, and by 7:30 when I was already in line to get in, the merch line was still wrapped around the side of the building for people hoping to get something. By then, they only had ONE model of shirt and the hoodie. That's it. But they weren't telling anyone anything unless you were almost at the tent so the people around the building were waiting in bliss ignorance. A security guard had told us around 4 that the lightsticks had sold out before the tent even opened because the people that had got there to queue since the morning were already more than the sticks available. Some people came to the tent, bought their stuff and left until later, and there were rumours that people going to the second date were buying merch on the first day, sooo... I don't know. It was all a mess. I was able to get a hoodie and only because I just wanted SOMETHING. - People were getting UberEats or Doordash to the line so it was kind of funny seeing all the dashers with food going back and forth trying to find the one person in line who had ordered. - The show was really cool, imo. The people in the pit were energetic and kept the good vibes going. I was sitting next to 3 friends who'd brought their own lightsticks from Amazon and no one said anything to them at the venue so...try at your own risk! They got through the line without any issues and used those sticks to cheer as well. I wished I had done that, too, if only to be immersed in the experience. - The screen did have pixel issues on one of its sides for, like, half the show. Whenever a character would get on that side, a purple rectangle would show there. It's in many of my videos. - Sure, the whole holograph thing is shitty, but, personally, I didn't really mind the screen too much, but I think they should try to figure out better lightning. When the lights go off and they aren't illuminating the edges of it, it really DOES look like Miku is on the stage because you just can't see the screen. It was really cool when the lights went off and only Miku (or the others) remained for a moment. I think the lighting around the edges of the screen and from behind it are what should be worked on, maybe? I'm not a technician so I don't know. - There was even a brief incident with a girl on a wheelchar that was in the pit. She entered when the pit was already almost full and just BOOKED it down the stage. There was a small bump on the centre of it (ours was an ice rink) and she hit it and her stuff flew off. Then, she tried to get herself over it unsuccessfully for many seconds with NO one offering to help her until she gave up and put her face in her hands. Then someone came over and helped. I didn't see what happened with her afterwards, but I hope the people in the pit allowed her to get closer to the front because otherwise she probably didn't see much at all. I was high in the seated area and I couldn't follow her after she got into the crowd. All in all, I did enjoy myself and I've basically learnt what to do if I ever attend again. Either buy merch online or plan ahead to be there early on the day, etc. I enjoyed the concert and I don't regret my ticket. But, yes, the lack of care and just laziness overall were pretty noticeable.

@ThepoopfarterREAL

Ай бұрын

Dude the line for the phx show was insane, me and my friends got in the line around 12: 30 and didnt get out of it until like 5: 40 and all we could get was a tshirt and a poster or towel. Others things left were items they were more expensive

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Wow, really? 😳 that’s insane, the merch line was not nearly that long for us and they were pretty speedy with it. Seems the low stock was planned though…. Very weird organization for sure!

@cinnabliss1313

Ай бұрын

The Phoenix merch line was so long, and when the staff started telling people that they were sold out, they were rude about it too. I saw people asking what "did you say" the guy telling everyone just walked past them to yell at the next group of people that they were sold out.

@ThepoopfarterREAL

Ай бұрын

@cinnabliss1313 yup, before everything was sold out i tried to ask if there was any len merch left and got completely ignored. Though i do feel bad for the people running the merch booth, there was only 3 of them which is so insane?? Why not have more so the line could've moved faster, especially cuz it was hot out the majority of the day.

Not a day goes by where I don't miss RightStuffAnime.

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

RIP the goat 😔

Hi hi. Big Vocaloid fan since 2008 here. I was going to get tickets myself for Miku expo but I backtracked the moment I saw who was involved. (o7 rightstuf) While I'm not surprised, I am very disappointed and angry for first time attendees and concert goers. You all deserved a better show. I'm upset with how CFM treats their overseas fans, because I know for a fact they would never let a sponsor pull this nonsense on the Japanese fans. They have seriously dropped the ball and are treating their Western fans like dirt... while charging crazy prices for so little effort. Aren't we all Miku fans? We all love vocaloid, so it's very sad to see how little our support means to them. I advise you all to please vote with your wallets. Send crunchyroll and crypton a very polite but still honest email regarding your thoughts and experience with this year's event. I hope everyone who was let down is able to get refunds, it's only fair for this excuse of a "tour".

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

HUGE agree! Otaku backlash must seem way scarier to them coming from Japanese fans vs the Western crowd, because there’s NO way they could get away with any of this over there. Retribution would be a swift kick to the pocketbook for sure.

it's really sad to see how little effort crypton is putting into miku expo now. Back in 2018, i was fortunate enough to attend it in Germany and there were barely any problems, it had holograms and amazing screens and lighting and many merch in the booths. I will not attend another one again until they bring the holograms back.

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

I’m glad you had such a good experience in 2018! I hope they fix everything up so we can all feel excited again.

The flower and the cardboard of Miku at 10:21 were actually placed by a Miku fan, not official. Also, the official threw them away after the show ended.😅

@mirynth

Ай бұрын

Omg

I am SO GLAD I went in 2014 to New York from Florida before the decided to monetize and coporatize this. This is why it's so much better to support the Vocaloid fandom and culture through conventions and actually support the music writers and artists instead of giving any support to Crunchyroll and Crypton. Every fandom eventually gets ruined by monetization.

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Felt! The corporate greed sucks the soul out of every fun thing it gets it’s icy hands on. Unfortunate to happen to the Vocaloid community because it is so much so a fan driven phenomenon. From the producers making the music, the artists bringing her to life in their mediums, and the fan support? We literally built this ship by hand WHY aren’t we steering the boat? 😂

Why is nobody in the comments talking about the statement that ALL Miku Expo concerts in the US and Europe will be done using screens? Like genuinely that's fucking unacceptable and the storm people are stirring up on social media should be SO much bigger, hearing this.

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

I tend to agree more with you! I think the details of what happened here are just so starkly sus, and with neither company stepping in to temper it’s just getting hotter

@Sleepy-Koala

Ай бұрын

This was only after a few concerts had happened. There was no statement beforehand.

@pigeonmama

Ай бұрын

@@Sleepy-Koala I know, but the fact that it's said that it's going to be this way from now on permanently- people should be rioting.

@Sleepy-Koala

Ай бұрын

@@pigeonmama I agree with you on that, but that's a good way to prevent more Miku expos

I was at the Portland show (the 2nd show) and it was wonderful if you knew what you were doing. We KNEW the lightsticks would sell out fast so we got in line at 7:30am (we were 2nd in line) and unfortunately they only had 90 lightsticks for the 3 thousand seated venue. The otaku that were there early were so incredibly sweet and brought us merch from Canada which was so sweet of them. The cosplayers that were there were so fun to take pictures with and we saw a lot of project sekai cosplayers which was such a cool overlap. Sure the screen sucked, the stock sucked, but the merch was very well priced and the people made it worth it. **ALSO SHOUTOUT!!! THE GUY WHO BROUGHT MERCH FROM CANADA DID MAKE IT IN!!! WE GOT THE KEYCHAINS**

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

THEY DID!!? Omg that makes me so happy for them. I’m glad to hear you had a good experience!

The Canada Miku cutouts are really cool! I hope that guy who stole it gets in trouble

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Me, too! You don’t get to ruin everybody else’s enjoyment and get away with taking someone else’s property.

This is the most comprehensive, thorough, thought out and well done video I've seen on this whole situation yet. Thank you for taking the time to make it. In regards to the LED screen/"TV" thing if the stage is setup right it can look very "hologram" like. For example, while not perfect, the recent (early April) Japan only, one night only concert Miku Fes 2024 was also apparently done using the LED tech, and it looked really good. It all comes down to set design, and Miku Fes nailed it so well that I initially thought it was the traditional hologram projection tech. I had to jump through some hoops to watch it, but once I did I thoroughly enjoyed it. I just hope that the Boston, MA show I'll be at with friends from NYC will be set up right, or at least as to the standard of Miku Fes. I'm going to still be going to the Boston show because for Miku Expo I'd normally go to NYC, but the only show that's close to NYC is in Newark, NJ and that's a pain in the ass to get to from up here in MA. I was hyped up to go to 2020's Boston show, but we all know what happened in 2020. lol. With all that being said, I've been watching this whole thing unfold and it's infuriated, flabbergasted, and disappointed me in more ways than one (especially the Coachella segment/concert... Why the HELL would they want Miku there? Literally no one there knew who she was set aside like 10 ppl with light sticks vibing along with the show). CrunchyRoll CANNOT be allowed to sponsor such a large scale event/tour again. I'm willing to bet that CR was the one to suggest the LED screen "solution" instead of letting CFM use their hologram tech that all the Vocaloid community knows and loves. Miku Expo tours usually happen every other year, so I hope 2026's Miku Expo should it continue the pattern ISN'T MANAGED BY CRUNCHYROLL. As much as I appreciate them for getting anime as it airs in Japan they should never have the rights to Vocaloid stuff. I'm just rambling at this point and getting myself worked up lol so I'll stop here, but thanks again for such a great analysis of the situation. I've subbed. :) P.S. You do NOT have a rat face. :) Also I love the Sailor Moon figures you have there... I have a few myself (Sailor Moon and otherwise), but I need to collect more of the girls and I need another display case haha.

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

HI WELCOME!! Also firstly thank YOU for taking the time to write out this super concise comment! Definitely agree Crunchyroll’s lost a lot of trust with this one, I think it’ll be really hard for them to do any meaningful damage control unless they address this properly… and soon. I’d highly recommend picking up more of the sailor scouts, they’re completely darling as a set and I love them ❤️ -sincerely, a non rat faced Goldfish

@ShiggitayMediaProductions

Ай бұрын

@@CourageousGoldfish First off, you're quite welcome. Second, oh I want to get more of the Sailors. There's an anime shop here in Boston called Anime Zakka and any time I go in there I'm tempted to get the Mars and Jupiter Glitter and Glamours series they have there, but they're like $40 US each, and I don't wanna spend that much... But then remember there's the issue of display case space... lol.. I have some overflow figures on top of my computer case, but that's filled up now. haha. OH and I like your top. Is it a sweatshirt?

Thank you for sharing! Its pretty maddening to hear that in this time period that organizations can host sub-standards large scale concerts and be allowed to get away with it. Personally, I tried to search if Miku's overseas concerts ever featured holographic presentation but to no avail - the funny part during my search - I did see sizable news exposure on this current saga, so the voice is definitely heard.

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

I’ve heard that the only other time they’ve used a screen instead of the hologram was in 2011 and the overseas audience did NOT take it well either 😂 shame, but it was still a fun time!

Im severely disappointed that its not going to be a hologram. This will be my first miku concert and i was hoping for the hologram experience. I can put miku on my giant AF TV at home.

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

It’s okay to be disappointed! Try to have the best time you can though, it will still be fun. ❤️

I’m going to the concert when it arrives to my country. I really hope this whole situation gets sorted out and they actually take action about the complaints before I go :(

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

I hope so too, fingers crossed for you!! ❤

@VenusVee__

Ай бұрын

@@CourageousGoldfish Thank you ❤️💕

@another-niko-pfp-holder

Ай бұрын

they already stated they will be using the screen in europe too, so that sucks

What's so weird is that I went to the Ado world tour earlier this year, which was also sponsored by CrunchyRoll, and it was great. The sound and set was great, everything was organized, and merch was plentiful. The merch stand opened at least 5 hours before the show and by the end of the show they still had lots of stuff left. And it's not like it wasn't selling, the lines for it were hella long I wonder what went wrong, or in the case of Ado, what went right?

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

That’s very interesting! Perhaps it could be that there’s more involvement on Ado’s part compared to Crypton? There’s the public image of an actual person at stake rather than just a corporate entity? Regardless, I’m glad you had a great time!! ❤️

A similar story for me. I was so excited for the event. I still had fun, mainly because I went with a few friends. I am almost certain this will dampen my anticipation of future events, unless they significantly upgrade the experience. I don't mind paying more than what they charged for tickets (I paid $35) if that translates into actual investment for the event. At least the cherry blossoms were nice.

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Agreed! How’d you score $35, that’s crazy! I’ve spent more on a 15 minute Uber lol

@rurikaadachi6405

Ай бұрын

@@CourageousGoldfish I got mine on StudHub. Another friend paid the same amount for theirs. Others paid $60 for their VIP ones. We were all disappointed, some more than others.

@rurikaadachi6405

Ай бұрын

​@@CourageousGoldfish (Not sure why my reply got deleted by KZread-kun. Second time's the charm?) I got my ticket through StubHub. One of my friends also got theirs for the same price, while others got their VIP tickets for $60. Needless to say, the VIP gang was more disappointed with the concert than I was.

@rurikaadachi6405

Ай бұрын

(Sorry, I am not sure why my reply keeps getting deleted. Or perhaps they aren't showing up for me but are for everyone? Fourth time's the charm?) I got mine from a ticket website with the initial SH (maybe it is the full name that is getting censored by KZread-kun). One of my friends also got theirs from that site for the same price, while others got their floor tickets for $60.

Miku Expo is never going to use the word hologram in promoting their shows because Miku has never been a hologram. Not in Japan, not here, not there. If they ever did, it would be false advertising.

@RokidMedia

Ай бұрын

True it was a glass projection of some kind

@monicasmm

Ай бұрын

True, a lot of people are misusing the word “hologram”. It’s a projection on glass. Personally I think it was nice to not have the reflection issue. I’m pretty short so I feel like I wouldn’t have been able to see the image as well with all the light sticks reflecting off the glass.

I used to subscribe to Crunchyroll, but this fiasco and their history of deceptive business and not caring about the fans has convinced me to go back to sailing the 7 seas for simulcasts and buying DVDs to support the industry. I wish there were more options for legal anime streaming cuz right now the only real option is CR or the seas. :( Edit: Oh my god that poor Canada Miku person!! American atrociousness really out in full force. I can't believe how awfully they were treated. People stole their stuff and the country harrassed them. Usually I'm disgusted to be an American, and this is just disgusting behavior on all levels.

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Agreed on both points! I try to trick myself into believing that because I buy a lot of official merch that I’m not a complete leech, but it IS hard to reconcile feeling like what you’re doing is bad!

Vancouver: Canada Miku robbing and pee on floor incident Portland: "95 glowsticks per event" San Jose: Hit 'n run and Elmo Phoenix: Lines in the hot Arizona sun What curse will fall upon Los Angeles?

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

We’re just collecting a bingo card full of crazy things, huh?

@enrico7230

Ай бұрын

Well I can,t tell for NA but I may tell for Europes Curse, it may be snowing in the time of the Whole Europe tour since it will be in Oktober and November

@FunnyParadox

Ай бұрын

​​@@enrico7230I bet on a community riot on the French concert because of the LCD screen lol

@enrico7230

Ай бұрын

@@FunnyParadox well might still be some Hope,not for the Hologramm but that Crunchyroll and Crypton place the screen better or make it bigger

@enrico7230

Ай бұрын

Led screen isn,t the issue in the Expo it is the false information abt it and how they use the screen

I went to the Phoenix event yesterday; i am also a very casual Vocaloid enjoyer, but was looking forward to the experience. Can confirm, they still have a limit on the light sticks, and merch in general. I only bought my ticket, because the second day event was reselling pit level for like $21; a steal, i thought; if only i had known the controversies beforehand. After i bought my ticket, and shared on my socials, was i informed by my friends what had been shared online. On the day of, merch was already sold out by the time i arrived. And seeing how few lightsticks there were during the performance was so disappointing. At one point, in line, some one was handing out glowsticks to people, just to help the experience. As my first time seeing Miku, i had fun; but it definitely did not meet the expectation that come with a brand like Vocaloid.

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Hey, pit for $21 is still pretty good! I’m glad you had fun. Shame this had to be a lot of people’s first experience, I hope they rectify it for the future!

i'm....really disappointed this all happened. i was gonna go to my very first miku expo on the year that pandemic started but due to obvious reasons, it never came true (was really looking forward to it to cause it would've been the very first vocaloid concert i ever been to.) and if this is how the concerts are gonna be handled with an led screen and stuff from now on in north America.... i don't think i wanna go to it in the foreseeable future. :(

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Your disappointment is valid! What I would say, is that it’s still a good experience to have and I would recommend going even just once, but if they’re going to continue to do it this way they need to lower the ticket price. $125 for seated in a college arena is crazy when I’ve literally paid about that much for TøP at a literal stadium with way more production value.

@another-niko-pfp-holder

Ай бұрын

I'm gonna go if the situation improves, but something tells me it'll only get worse from here

The Piss rumor i want to confidentially say is 100% false. Most of the venues sell beer and my theory is some tiktok kid saw a puddle of beer on the ground. Rumor took off since you had a similar rumor with the katsucon shit incident

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Very possible! There’s literally no concrete evidence to prove it 😂

@MikuHatsune159

Ай бұрын

I'd agree it's most likely false. I didn't see much of anyone point or gather around anything as if they saw something strange even after staying 10 minutes after shutdown. I think some random person might have just chimed that in because in the KPop fandom during the Hanteo Music Awards show this year, some strange shit happened. Unless I find a group of people in the pit who can confirm, someone was just trying to stir drama and misinformation.

@jokerrfox354

Ай бұрын

@MikuHatsune159 I find that when shit shows happen, it's starting to become a common thing for people to find more of a reason to rag on it and kinda snowball the anti-hype. Its cathartic for folks.

@MikuHatsune159

Ай бұрын

@@jokerrfox354 for sure, it doesn't help that on the internet now it's so much harder to decipher what's real or fake. Also just navigating your own emotions around it too is harder than ever, because internet really wasn't a factor into our developing brains for centuries. 😅

I think given the fact that they managed to improve the staging midway through the NA tour id say there's a good chance that they'll be able to integrate the screen better by the EU tour (which is the one im going to) but it is crunchyroll sponsoring it and they're not the best with these things so im not holding out too much hope haha :'( still excited to see on the rocks live either way >:D

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

It shreds! I hope you have a great time!!

just came from the phoenix show. 10/10 amazing would do again. screen was bigger than expected but I was close to stage but for me it was crystal clear 4k HD and yeah i expected dogshit from the internet hate but nope amazing time would do again 👍 people I came with who aren't miku diehards said they loved it 🙂

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

That’s great, I’m glad you had a good time! 💕

I wonder if the hologram set up got like broken or something and they don’t want to admit it? (But then that begs the question how long does it take to fabricate that sort of set up)

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Yes, I wonder! I would think it would be a lot easier at this point to just be honest if that were the case, and I feel like most people would be a little more understanding… but at the same time you’re right! I can’t imagine it would take an entire monthlong tour leg to fix…. And even for Coachella which is arguably a big break into mainstream?

@MsMvsc

Ай бұрын

not likely since they use across japan all the time

I went to day 2 of San Jose and stood in the pit all night. I had a great time but Crunchyroll can't take any credit for that. The fanbase has always been the lifeblood of the vocaloid fandom.

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Extremely agree!! The passion is evident… from the fans that is.

Even if "hologram" was never specified on the site, it's the bare minimum of what people have come to expect based on every show prior. Before this there were only a few other instances of a LED screen being used as opposed to the hologram you'll get 99% of the time, so by all means there was no reason for people to think it wouldn't be here.

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Yes! That’s the heart of the issue for sure. This is something that was willfully not communicated to us!

I went to the 2nd day of the San Jose show and already resigned to the screen. Still tried to have fun though only wish they played more of the classic songs (~2010/2011), but there are a ton of new fans so I guess that's why ? Also I wasn't there but there was also an accident at the show where a car span out of control and almost hit people in the Miku Expo line. 🫠 so this tour is just cursed

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

I heard there was a pixel issue with the screen in Phoenix last night, definitely cursed!! We didn’t have that happen, but there were no line marshals so the seated section entry line was looping around the little dropoff driveway and blocking in the poor confused Uber drivers 😂 bad organization all around!

was at that austin show. screen was terrible. no merch at all - later found out it was on the other side of the venue OUTSIDE. well, that isnt where my paid parking was, so i had no idea. and they didnt allow you to leave once you were inside. so no glowstick. super disappointing.

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

They definitely needed better communication at the very least!!

Your video was recommended to me by YT and I would just want to share this for people who may be curious. Flowerstands are a big part of the Japanese otaku culture across the board (from idols, to anime/voice act units, bands, etc), these are mostly organized by fans or sponsors and almost never by organizers themselves. And from experience, organizing one costs more than the tickets actually. Sometimes the event artists could even ask for the artworks to take home as tokens so if anyone would go to any other japanese concerts of any kind that have these flowerstands with artworks, please dont mess with them 🥺 take pictures and leave them at peace

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing, that’s great to know! I believe PEK_YVR stated their costs were around $750 for the flowers, and a bit more for the cutouts and stuff… definitely from the heart.

just went to the first phoenix show and it was so much fun but i did have the feeling of relief that nothing went wrong for my friend and me personally. although i did waste over an hour waiting in the merch line that barely moved i ended up leaving bc i realized with how many people i never had a chance unless i lined up for 8 hours prior, vip ended up being very worth it since i couldnt buy any other merch. also loved seeing the cosplay meetup at the end of the concert it's so worth it to go and hang out with other fans if nothing else :)

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Yes, the community is such a big part of what makes it so special to be there! I’m glad you had a good time

If you had a VIP ticket for early entry and access to merch inside, they just gave VIPs the leftovers from the sales prior.

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Sooo if the merch sold out? Nothing to be had?

@oomomomee

Ай бұрын

source? i know they ran out which is horrible but i didn't see anything about giving you leftovers from normal merch

Went to San Jose and had a person behind me vomiting all over themselves and the floor. It caused quite a few people to miss a lot of the show

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

OHHHH that would have ruined my whole WEEK! That’s brutal!

@justelisan1766

Ай бұрын

@@CourageousGoldfish I was so mad. I missed about 40 minutes of the show and then after it was cleaned the person cleaned themselves and came back...the area still smelled so bad. Lady next to us gave us some lavender scented hand sanitizer. So my first Miku Concert didn't go as planned

I only got tickets to my venue because I’m disabled and only ADA seating was left 😂

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

A WIN is a WIN 😂 I hope you have so much fun!!

I literally cannot imagine being in the first concert and being the first to discover that it was actually just a TV screen. I'm lucky to not have my concert until another month so I have a lot of time to mentally digest the screen and come to terms with it. If I went to Miku Expo expecting a hologram and saw it was just a tv, especially with my seat being more off to the side where I couldn't even see the screen well, I think I would have spent most of the concert crying, and the rest slumped in my seat disappointedly.

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

I think there was one of two things happening, I think there were some people who reacted like that and some people like me who didn’t really have time to think about it too much in the moment. Definitely a surreal experience though!

i really want to go see the europe expo later in the year as theres still tickets available but i don't want my first concert experience to be watching a tv screen onstage 😭. the lack of communication is insane

@CourageousGoldfish

25 күн бұрын

We definitely should have known!!

The Europe expo ticket sales were two weeks ago and I still can't find any information regarding the merch

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

It might take a bit! For the North American leg, the ticket sale was in September and the merch was in March.

@Anne_The_Hamster

Ай бұрын

@@CourageousGoldfish Thank you, this is quite comforting. Not having literally any information besides the ticket sales sucks

To everyone planning on going to a future show: Don’t let the whole “tv” thing turn you off from the show. It’s NOT a TV, and it’s still an incredible show! It does not translate over well on pictures and videos, mainly because the characters are pretty pale and have white clothing so it gets blown out. But in person it looks awesome and it’s a really fun show. In fact, I saw people were selling their tickets for super cheap for the second day show in my city so I ended up going the next day too! It was so much fun and I will be going again whenever she comes back whether it’s a “hologram” or not 🤩 If you’ve been waiting forever to see Miku in person like I have, don’t miss the chance to go. You will have fun and you won’t regret it whatsoever! Don’t let a bunch of picky people on the internet tell you otherwise lol

Whoever made that Canada Miku cutout is the true hero here.

Heyaaa i come from the classic Vocaloid era too!! 😭 oh how much time passed! I feel old now too

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

It’s crazy how much time has passed! I remember being a dramatic teenager and being SO upset my mom wouldn’t buy us tickets and fly to the other side of the country so I could go to the 2016 one 😂 suddenly I’m 22 and I get to fulfill that dream that once seemed so out of reach 8 years later…. my back hurts!

@BurritoPrincessCos

Ай бұрын

@@CourageousGoldfish for reals! I remember watching Romeo and cinderellla a lot. Then I had saved the bad end night series in my phone and the quality was so bad butt I was so happy 😭😭 the evil series though 😭 I remember I really loved the synchronicity trilogy. The vocaloid choruses were such a thing 😭 then there were the utaite like 96neko and valshe 😭 now I’m 25 ! Where did time go 😭

I'm one of the few who actually got a ticket normally. Actually had no idea about the whole code thing. Fought for my LIFE for those tickets, and they were normal tickets, not even VIP. The tickets were around $330 for 2 people, with a $13 parking ticket and a whopping $61.74 fee. Again, these are base ticket prices. I did get tickets smack in the middle of the show, but me and my partner weren't very close or very far to the stage. I'll explain my experience since I went to the Orlando show at Dr. Phillips. This show was not the usual and had assigned seating for everyone, instead of it just being a big mosh pit. The doors were set to open at 6:30pm, and the show as at 8pm, no sooner no later. VIPS were told to arrive at 6pm if I recall. Me and my partner showed up at 6:20pm and began our walk to the back of the line, and WHAT a walk it was! The line to get into the building stretched all the way around the building and down a couple blocks. I assumed no liquids were allowed so I left my bottle in the car, and by the time we got to the back of the line I was regretting that decision. For a show with ASSIGNED SEATING, the line was INSANE. I don't know what the heck they were doing up there, but it sure wasn't letting people in. It was hot, around 85F or so (thankfully with a slight breeze), and by the time we made it to the door it was around 7:30pm, and at that point, the staff was freaking out because they were taking so long to let people in that they were telling us the show would start at 8pm no matter what and if you are not inside the building and sitting at your seat you would miss the show. Finally, they were letting people in at a better pace, but way too late. Also, the entire time people were in line no staff came to offer anyone water. The building was not fit to handle the size of this show, since Dr. Phillips is more meant for orchestras and broadway shows than big performances like this, which is probably why the staff was having a hard time letting people in because they were just not used to this type of crowd. Me and my partner just booked it to the seats despite both of us being very thirsty and dehydrated being outside for an hour and a half or so. We WOULD've gotten drinks, but the drink line was insanely long. I only learned they had a water fountain leaving the building, so we were thirsty the whole show. We also skipped the long merch line. I wasn't gonna buy merch anyways because it was all way too expensive, but I do feel bad for the people that were waiting in line for hours and couldn't get merch due to the sluggish pace people were being let in at. This being my first concert, I was not ready for it to be so LOUD. I think the drums were mixed not great because on the whole right side of the building, there was this loud sound that I think was from the drums and it kinda hurt haha. I did not bring earplugs, so I basically held my ears with my fingers the whole show. There was one guy in front of me and my partner that offered earplugs, but I declined thinking it was like... a box of mints or something (stupid me) and I felt embarrassed to ask post-declining, so that's my fault. However, I could definitely tell this theater was not ready for an audience size this big and a setup this loud. In the end I did have fun. I danced to the songs and it was great hearing some songs and seeing Miku dance around like a princess. It was of course very disappoint to have no hologram and no original band members. I will say though, the band members they did bring in did a very good job. No hate for them, they killed it. If I got a refund (which I couldn't but hypothetically) I would've been disappointed I missed it. I went home with my ears ringing and a headache due to dehydration, but it WAS fun. I just hope if they do this again, 1: the tickets aren't so damn expensive and 2: they give miku a proper holographic screen.

im probably gonna go to at least one miku concert just to say that i went to one since it's still a dream of mine to go to one and just try to make the most of it but i hope that they make improvements in future years and hopefully i'll be able to go to magical mirai in the future

Went to the Detroit show, and I had a good time there! While I did buy a third party color changing glowstick, never got in trouble for it. And the Canada Miku person was able to get through customs and come to Detroit, though I didn’t see them personally. Disappointment with the screen? Yeah, but I still enjoyed the show and got some decent pictures to show. Merch was handled a lot better; while the glowstick was obviously sold out before the show, a good amount of the merch was still available about 2 hours before it. Let’s hope next time Crypton really does listen to the feedback for future tours.

cool video!

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Thank you!!

When powered by Crunchyroll the event became HATSUNE Cheapu Cheapu oooooo way ooooooo

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

LITERALLY THO

Despite all the problems with it I went to the Expo with my brother and it was super fun! The crowd had so much energy and it was such an amazing experience to be surrounded by other people who love something just as much as you do

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Definitely agree!! It’s so nice to have that community, especially for something like Miku that feels like a very niche interest if you don’t know any cool people 😎

Amen girl preach. I have tickets to Miku and I’m going to do exactly what you said in your conclusion just try and have the best time it possibly can. I think for me the only reason that it’s a little more disappointed was this supposed to be my first ever Miku, so I never even saw the hologram in the first place, but I’m still gonna try and have a good time.

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

I hope you have a great experience!! 💕

I saw the show in Boston on 05/09. The show was a blast and my daughter (her b-day gift) and myself had a good time...during the show. There was a notice posted that the merch tent would not be there and merch would be inside with sales starting at 6. The venue didn't let us in until 7. Then there was the mass of people trying to get merch, all shoving each other. Ever try to explain to a 6yr old that they aren't getting a light stick. The show started at 8pm, my daughter and I were late getting there due to wanting some merch. In short: fun show, crappy execution.

I was at the Miku expo in Vancouver as well, as far as glow sticks go there where 400 and they ran out between 4:00 and 4:30 and I was also there earlier in the morning when the guy was there handing stuff out and one of his friends dressed up in a Miku dio costume.

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Wait the Miku Dio is actually really iconic though 😂

Changing the signature feature of your event and paying no mind to the fans (who pay you) when they express their anger justly, is WILD. Can't get over it. We don't want it "refined", we want you do undo the enormous unannounced change.

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Very true! I personally can’t believe that a whole boardroom of people didn’t see this coming, and if they didn’t they need different jobs. The silence is definitely a choice.

I hate that they had so little glowstick, as I was in the merch line someone bought the glowstick in front of me. Ether was still a great concert

MIKU GIRLBOSS WE DEMAND BETTER

Thanks for the video, honestly, this will be my third Miku Concert and considering the previous ones, I am very disappointed, more because it takes a lot of effort to go to this concerts and they are literally, scamming us with this😢 also, here in Mexico we have another concern about the merch, on the 2 past previous concerts, the organizers barely of directly did not have merch and the merch that was being sold, was so bad, so cheap quality, and well, guess witch concert doesn’t have any information about the merch until this day, that’s right, Mexico’s concert 😢 just… idk… I feel so disappointed

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

That really sucks, especially when everyone else doesn’t get treated the same!! My Latin boyfriend is probably jealous you guys get MikuFiesta though, it’s the only Miku song he knows 😂

I went to the Phoenix concert blindly and without context of who Hatsune Miku is and what Vocaloids are. I’ve seen some fanart of her from comic/anime conventions and my friends know some of her songs. My friends and I bought the pre-sale tickets last September, and they were not cheap, but still were able to get decent seats. I only went to this concert just for the vibes and to spend time with my friends. I wondered how Miku was going to be set up live since she is a virtual singer and not a living, tangible, being. (Put down the pitch forks and torches, people). I wondered if there was going to be screens or a hologram, or AI despite my distaste for them. I wish I wasn’t right sometimes, knowing the results of how the concert is set up currently. 🤦🏻‍♀️ As for the merch, my friends and I spent the early morning until afternoon in the merch line just to get light sticks and other merch. And yes, since we live in Arizona, it did get hot as the line got longer. There were about 100 light sticks that were being sold, and there was a one light stick per person rule, and people bought two or more because of course they did. I was aware of the controversies of the other Miku Expo 2024 concerts from the other cities before Phoenix, but I didn’t let it ruin my concert-going experience. Again, went to the concert blindly, w/o context of the Miku/ Vocaloid community, and for the vibes. Would I sit and stand for 5 hours in a merch line again? Nope. Would I go to another Miku concert again? Screen or no screen yeah. Overall, the concert was fun and the crowd was super hyped.

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

That’s basically how my boyfriend felt about it too! I’m glad you were able to enjoy yourself, and my condolences for the heat stroke you must have 🥵

How does nico nicos chow parties, unofficial vocaloid concerts have better concerts than crypton and crunchy roll. Like why would crunchy roll sponsor this and put absolutely 0 effort into it.

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

My guess would be money. The anime/associated communities have grown massively since 2020 and they’re probably just trying to cash in on everybody’s excitement… which is really unfortunate because they want the reward but don’t want to do the work!

ive been a vocaloid fan since about 2018(?) and ive been wanting to go to a miku concert so bad for years so obviously when i could finally go by myself i took that opportunity... imagine my shock when it's nothing like what previous shows were like.. im going in 2 days and i hope it gets better and that at least there could be some sort of refund or giving-back to the audience because i think this is really unfair that a corperation as big as crunchyroll isnt able to reach previous standards lol edit: plus the setlist is a bit mediocre.. i was expecting more for miku expo's 10 YEAR anniversary TT

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Yes! I didn’t want to get into the set list in the video because it kind of distracts from the point, and it’s really easy to say ‘you can’t make everybody happy’….. but still!! ONE wowaka song?

@thatperson3165

Ай бұрын

@@CourageousGoldfish RIGHT??

Local vancourite who arrived at 6pm, no merch, empty tent being taken down at 7pm. I'm just baffled how terribly the whole tour has been planned......like of the stuff i saw in the crowd, it was still heartwarming. Yes, i was so confused at the screen at seating time, but went along with it cuz as long as i saw Miku....they confirmed in interview and thats not OFFICIALLy on their social media. Like I'm so confused and increasingly disappointed for fans ☹️

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Yea, it was for sure a whiplash moment for most of the crowd when she came on, I think I heard the girl behind me go ‘is this a bit?’ 😂 like sometimes they’ll do a bit at the beginning of the concert where they’ll ‘break’ the screen and come out…. but noooo that’s way too high of a production value to ask for lol

I mean we're aware but we can't sell our tickets and make money so we might as well go. But it's also pretty frustrating and I guess not a surprise considering it's Crunchyroll.. But I am confused why they switched to an LED screen... When that's like her entire gimmick

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Literally. WE WERE ALL ROOTING FOR YOU HOW DARE YOU 😂

I just got back from the show in New Jersey overall I had a good time but compared to the previous Miku expos I’ve gone to it was certainly different The holograms definitely make a more immersive experience but at the end of the day, it was still a great experience

@CourageousGoldfish

25 күн бұрын

I'm glad you had a good time!!

I was gonna try to get tickets to the Boston show but the prices were insane that I backed out and decided on watching the VR live last year like I did before. I honestly feel like that was much better than the actual expo, While yes I would miss on seeing Ten Thousand Stars and Intergalactic Bound as a massive Circus-p fan, I felt like I got more bang for my buck with the VR live, even if it was free via YT. This years expo is a disaster and somehow both the VR live from last year AND the coachella apperence were better (Coachella is a dubious better here) than the actual expo.

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Ten Thousand Stars was the one that finally got me crying! I love that song and there really WERE ten thousand others just like me in that moment. Now that I’ve done it though, I don’t think I need to spend the money to do it again lol

@AresGod0fWar

Ай бұрын

I am a new Miku fan. I thought about going to the one in Detroit. A few months ago lowest prices were $350, and now I can get main floor for $200, but I don’t know most of the songs in set list, and from what I have seen/read it seems like they didn’t do the best at organizing things. So, I was thinking maybe waiting and hoping they bring it back to Detroit another year. I know people probably didn’t record with best devices, aka phone, but you can hear the band just drowning out Miku, and I don’t like that. I was wondering how you watch it on VR? I have a Quest 3. Is there a website for that and does it cost money? I would like to give that a try myself.

@LocalTorchwoodIntern

Ай бұрын

@@AresGod0fWar It was streamed to YT and on VR I believe, if you look it up there are reuploads of the performance on YT if your interested, it has a lot more variety than the actual Expo

Import tax would not help with stock levels. Also your lucky i live in Australia and we never get a chance to see a live concert

I'm still gonna go since this will be my first expo... but man this whole thing is disappointing. I sure hope they get it fixed by next year cause no way I'm going all the way for a management disaster like that again. well at least i get to hear gimmexgimme live that'll be good at least

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Oh it’s GREAT live! I love that song and was NOT expecting them to bring it out. I hope you have a good time!!

I’m not gonna lie. It was a good expo and it was my first one. I can’t wait to do it next year. I just hope the hologram will be there.

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Oh yay! I’m glad you had fun!!

this is my first one I get to go to. really really sad about it not being a hologram... still going. but such a disappointment.

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

I’m sure it will still be at least a little fun!!

I went to miku expo at dallas and could definitely tell it wasnt planned well. It also sucks I paid 170 dollars for it. I got in line early for merch but couldnt get a lightstick and it was easy to tell many people couldnt get one. The led screen wasnt too bad byt man they did nothing with that led screen. Its just miku with black void behind her

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

If they’d dressed it up even a little bit, I think there’d be more defenders! The presentation is just so bad it’s clear they couldn’t be bothered to put any effort in.

Next time I will probably buy tickets to simple plan instead of going Miku concert

いいね！日本🇯🇵から

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

ありがとうございました ! 💕

21:33 This was actually Crypton who locked the ticket sales, since it shows that only the organizer can lock the ticket sales. This is my first expo and I feel a hit cheated. I paid around 200$ for the ticket and 300$ for merch and now seeing that all we get is LED and all these cut corners are kind of.... disappointing. Especially since this was supposed to be her 10th anniversary on miku expo too.

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Absolutely abysmal for a 10th anniversary especially! The set list is controversial, and I think in some ways it does work, but it also feels lacklustre for 10 YEARS. Pull some out of the archive and dust them off!

wtf i did not know about the pee in the pit so i got so confused when u clarified it

@CourageousGoldfish

14 күн бұрын

IT WAS SO CRAZY I’m like I literally do not have any evidence that this happened 😂

Honestly, If I was super rich and going to the concert, I would personally give the Crunchyroll people running the concert the special glass and the projector, and say USE THIS.

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Miku has so many diehard fans they literally could have done this and it would probably work 😂

…what is this Miku Expo thing? I thought it was a ‘The Battle Cats’ event of some green lady hahaa!

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Miku (green lady) is a character that is associated with the voicebank software people can purchase to use when producing vocals for music. The company that owns Miku does a live concert playing her popular songs while a model of her sings and dances onstage. Usually, she is a 3D hologram, and this year she is on a 2D flatscreen! Battle Cats might have been better…. lol 😂

why is everyone saying the concerts are ran by crunchyroll. they've sponsored it that's all. they've provided funding...?

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

I think it’s actually the opposite, I believe Crypton (Japanese company) partnered with Crunchyroll (Eng/Overseas market) to help them with the logistics and event planning for a North American tour. Its probably a headache for them to work it out themselves in a market they’re not as familiar with, so they subcontracted a well known American company to help. It’s not clear who did what, but they’ve certainly both got their hands in the pie.

@Midoriisgay

Ай бұрын

@@CourageousGoldfish idk, keep in mind they did crowdfunding before with their american tours. they've planned before, in fact the team they are working with now are the same from their 2020 tour. its definately funding

It kind of sucks. I wanted to go to my local concert in Phoenix. It would be a drive, but least for me it was local enough to make the trip. I saw tickets on sale for $50 and let my family knew and was told to wait only for it to be sold out with only the expensive seats left and now I'm partly happy I didn't go seeing how Crunchy did false advertise the event. Least somewhat I would argue. Fans have put together better fan concerts (yes this does exist) then what Crunchy delivered. I think what we were hoping for was like another Mikunopolis, but met with TV.

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Especially after 2020 was cancelled, I’m sure everyone expected a way different experience. I hope the fan events gain more traction, they look super fun!!

i have a pin from canada miku guy!! he was SO sweet but him telling us to hush after thanking him was SO sad, he was afraid he would be yelled at for giving us merch ):

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

NOOO that’s so sad!! he was just trying to make it special :(

"I'm on top of the world because of you" yep and we'll deplatform you too. If this is the future of Miku idk if I really want to be a part of it.. I saw her back in 2018 and it was amazing! But this is so unfair to the people who love her :((

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Yes, we should’ve known what this was going to be before it happened!

Going to london and I was lucky enough to go to the ACTUAL HOLOGRAM SHOW in 2020 there. I'm going and I'm hoping to promote myself there with CDs and stuff. I'm disappointed with the news of the LED screen but I'm not going to let it ruin this for me

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Wait you’re a producer?? That’s so cool!!

@Crossi-P

Ай бұрын

@@CourageousGoldfish yea! I know a few other producers who are gonna do the same thing for their local expos

To be fair. People like me are to blame just as much as Crypton and Crunchyroll. Despite the Expo 2024 being a corporate greed induced dumpster fire i still eat up everything vocaloid related and buy tickets. Vote with your wallet is easier if you are not starved of the best thing in the world, Miku. PS A big middle finger to whoever stole the Kanada Miku.

this is so sad omg i hope next year they use a hologram 😭😭 im finally an adult and can buy my own tickets and they pull THIS

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

AGREEEE I begged my mom to fly across the country in 2016 which obviously didn’t work so this time I was like I CAN’T MISS IT 😂

the merch was a joke the line was too fcking long

@CourageousGoldfish

25 күн бұрын

AGREEEEEEE at least set up two stations if you're not gonna move the line fast enough!

It will be my first concert and I had much hope and after I knew it wasn,t a hologramm I was very fucked up since I bought a VIP Ticket to see a Hologramm and I had to spent Money for a Hotel so abt 300€. I just hope that this Insider Leak that yoi spoke about is just fake and some Countries in NA and Europe get to see a Hologramm.

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

I’m hoping for you!

@viik-tor

Ай бұрын

I've been coping so hard after that insider leak hopefully Europe gets the hologram I'm literally begging cfm (they won't change it I'm just delusional)

wait, they banned the use of unofficial lightsticks??? what a scam lmao

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Yes! I think they’ve been less strict on enforcing it on later dates of the tour, but it’s specifically stated you can’t bring your own unofficial ones. Usually it’s because they might affect the projection onto the screen, but obviously people were mad because there IS no projection 😂

@Electricfrank3n

Ай бұрын

@@CourageousGoldfish omg..... its not adding up... im willing to bet they put that in so they could continue to shill the $40 mikuexpo branded ones without competition i would def say they're less strict now, just got back from orlando and someone i know was selling penlights with inserts for $18 and totally sold out! i got their last one, but in this climate of overcharging and scarcity the underground penlight market will surely flourish lol

Oh boy this did not age well…they didn’t use the hologram even at coachella 💀

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Bro literally I was in shock the whole time. FOR COACHELLA????

Am I the only one that feels like that short blurb from a random article not cut it! Like it’s not a true statement to the community. Also they have not made a true statement but are already asking for Europe ticket sales. It’s outrageous and just feels icky.

@viik-tor

Ай бұрын

Yea I hope they put out a proper statement soon but I'm not super hopeful, was hyped for the Europe tour but not as much anymore after all this :(

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Yes, I agree!! And the rest of the article uses such soft language and doesn’t really describe WHY it’s such a big deal, they’d rather just point and go ‘look at these overgrown babies whining about a girl that’s not even there!’ instead of ‘these people are mad because they got scammed and didn’t get the experience they paid for’ 🙄

Not me just going to the store and picking up some $1 glow sticks lol. The concert staff didn't even batt an eye Idk how some can be okay with the LED screen tho. Dark or not, Miku still looks as flat as her stolen cardboard counterpart lol

@CourageousGoldfish

25 күн бұрын

Especially if you're seated on the sides! For sure better from the front, but still a questionable choice...

A lot of incompetence by the powers that be is destroying a number of good things I love. 😢

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

It’s so unfortunate!!

Don't let this fuel the fire for Vocaloid doomers. Let us use it as an example to make Vocaloid better!!

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

There have been doomers since the early 2010’s, and arguably we’re in the biggest boom for vocaloid right now, ten years later. You just never know, so why would you want to be so defeatist? I agree with you, I think this is a massive opportunity to make things better!

Sad to hear, but good you enjoyed it somewhat anyway. Corporate greed is in general a deadening force as soon as the people who care for "the product", albeit on different levels, have left or were made to leave and the money making becomes the only driving force. It is hurtful to the original creators, artists, engineers and caring management involved originally or now. Or there is a disconnect on other levels. I'm relatively new to the Miku phenomenon and see that one can approach it in quite different ways. It is part of the AI menace or inspiring for soul and spirit. If one gives form to anything on a soul level, fans and inspired creators give something to Miku as they gain something from her... propably much more than what is easily seen. So it/she becomes much more than a hologram. This is worthwhile studying. Just take the fan made corner at the event in Vancouver! Amazing. And of course then one has all the other issues even around that deed of love, like theft and going by the book and just call the police. Thanks for sharing! PS:One has to also consider incompetence and the language and borders issue. Why don't they want to bring all there technology abroad? Transparency would indeed help and thus fans could help the "owners" of Miku... and Miku to improve on future events.

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Yes, thank you for taking the time to articulate such great points! I think the nuance a lot of major media outlets aren’t quite capturing is that this hurt goes to a much deeper level than just ‘fake anime girl isn’t a hologram wah!’. BECAUSE Miku isn’t ‘real’, any life she lives or the personality she has are created by the community. Whether it’s producers making songs, fans supporting and loving the music, artists using their talents to bring her to life in so many different mediums… ultimately she is everything we make her to be. And that’s why the response probably feels so hollow and off key in this whole situation, because it’s SUCH a fan led fandom.

@thornalas4385

Ай бұрын

​@@CourageousGoldfishThanks for your reply, I will share some thoughts later. For now this song, that addresses some of Miku's realities worth the while pondering. Together with the question: what is real, what is freedom? Have a good day. kzread.info/dash/bejne/c5Vn1Mmnhpm9iZs.htmlsi=OfPSSOuoaYcrVtjW

@thornalas4385

Ай бұрын

@@CourageousGoldfish Hi again. Only fans or those truly interested can know and learn more about a phenomenon like Miku(no other like it!). The whole question of responsibility when binding emotions or liberating them through music. In creating a character you create a personalized focal point and although one might not be aware of it, if one is a materialist, you create a being that is increasingly! real! although certain aspects of it are indeed illusion. Similar like to a vampir gives blood, but here out of interest and love one gives life to a vocaloid, whose sound was created using a human voice to begin with. Other than the AI discussion today with implants and all the other technological questions involved, this is some kind of an alchemical process of creation due to the creativity, the music and dance choreography volunteered to Miku, and the enthusiasm of fans. All this makes her real in the sense, perhaps, of (for example) Hamlet being more real than many humans existing in the flesh today, who have lost their capacity to think themselves on their way to true freedom. Born through technology and dark, obscure electromagnetism, but fostered by love and generating deeper feelings and thoughts in people like us towards a personalized Miku, makes it(Mikuism) a her(Miku) beyond the original creation and intention, and her thus increasingly more real. We might keep in mind that there is darkness in each individual life, so that happens to Miku, plus she originates from an obscure world of algorithms, but the future, ours and her future depends on the liberation(or bondage) of the human mind. Many of "her" songs express questions of an existential nature for her(and the authors) in between the worlds. Being concerned with being, it means that we might have some responsibility here. Even or especially when the money driven management fails or tries to laugh about fans. In the case of Miku the process of becoming has gone farther than with other attempts, due to the magic of music and dance. So far, if I find time I should write an article about this, even if it might prove quite outlandish to my friends. Without my son's interest in anime I would never have thought about this all. Thus you also helped me further with your report. Thanks.

Never buy anything where Crunchyroll is involved .. Simple rule

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

VERY true!

Crunchy Roll has a deal with RIghtstuff just letting you know but i can't stand Crunchy Roll to be honest

everyone is actually going insane LOL i went to the denver show and it was AMAZING. literally nothing changes, she still looks like the normal hologram she's always been, plus the lights are amazing. they have great songs, great choreography, and it's awesome! everyone who's whining about the tv screen hasn't even been there, the tv screen doesn't change anything. again, it's a great time and the tv screen doesn't change anything. the internet needs to stop being a bunch of picky babies 🤗

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

That’s fair to say too!! I’m glad you had a great time ❤️

@Puretea4711

Ай бұрын

are you a Crunchyroll employee?

Im going to the show in London in October and after the announcement its confirmed its going to be a LCD screen for the rest of the US and European tour. But Magic Mirai in Japan was also a screen so I wonder of this will be the future of Miku Expo's etc. But I can deal with the screen as long as they make a better effort to hide it like they did with Magic Mirai in Japan because with it just sitting in the middle of the stage it feels its taking away from the emersion. But I also hope that the setlist gets a mix up because from the setlists I saw it seems there is a lot of slower songs and for a 10th Anniversary i was hoping for more party songs. But at the end of the day it is what you make of it and i hope that it will be a good show.

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

I hope you have fun!! Agreed that the set dressing definitely makes a huge difference. I hope they go back to the drawing board to make it better for y’all!!

This is my first Miku expo ever and it’s in London and I’m genuinely scared because I don’t want it to be rubbish, I’m just gonna have a great time hologram or LED screen (does anybody know where or when to get the light sticks for the Europe tour?) 😭🫶

@CourageousGoldfish

Ай бұрын

I hope you have the best time! It’ll still be fun for sure. Not sure for Europe, but the NA merch sales were a little less than a month before the tour leg!

@Sakura-High-official

Ай бұрын

@@CourageousGoldfish thanks! My mum bought me the tickets straight away so i didn’t look how good the expo actually was, hoping the LED screen is still good 💗