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@daniellemooney7813

5 жыл бұрын

That i9 9900k at 499 help amazing buy or stick with i79700k

@Tjecktjeck

5 жыл бұрын

Gamers Nexus Hey Nexus. What about ultrawides? They mostly have 48-100 adaptive sync range - does it mean they wont pass the test by any chance because they wont reach 2.4 ration? Thank you! Ps: i just bought Benq ex3501r last week on a decent discount, so it's kinda important to me if i should keep or return that thing.

@thorodin3631

5 жыл бұрын

what gsync compatible means, is they can take the best of the best of free sync monitors, slap a gsync compatible label on it, and get some extra cash from monitor makers to get a gsync compatible label put on their monitors. in other words, nvidia is doing another power grab and forcing their will on monitor makers. top of the line freesync monitors are already within the extreme margins of gsync. yet...i kinda doubt reviewers will call them out on their bs. some of the issues of freesync monitor are low hz range monitors which are cheap crap. so...in top of the line freesync monitors, there is no issues, hence why nvidia wants to put a gsync label on it, so they can do yet another power grab and claim their "tech and standards are better than amd" which simply isn't the case. the top of the line freesync monitors already are quality controlled by the manufacturers themselves. simply put, ngreedia, wants to try to take even freesync from amd and they are going to get away with it cause no one is going to call them out for it.

@FakeHeavenBand

5 жыл бұрын

Will HDMI freesync monitors work?

@MaZEEZaM

5 жыл бұрын

Your ad has REALLY horrible sound. Otherwise, great video :)

Interesting info guys, quick note though, AMD did quietly revise their 2.5x refresh range requirement down to 2.0x for LFC to accommodate some monitors with 35-75 Hz and 70-144 Hz ranges

@letsgoiowa

5 жыл бұрын

Do you know if this would apply to older monitors? For example, my MG279Q (one of the first Freesync monitors) had an initial FS range of 35-90Hz. I changed it to 57-144Hz, but it clearly struggles and flickers between or at at precisely 56-59 FPS. If I could change the range to 70-144Hz for example and retain LFC, that sounds awesome.

@Puffalupagus360

5 жыл бұрын

Does this mean that many lower priced Freesync monitors probably won't work with adaptive sync?

@chainsaw2010

5 жыл бұрын

would Freesync still have a Massive fps loss if used with SLi like G-sync does?

@charliebrownau

5 жыл бұрын

Isnt Freesync normally 45 fps / 45 hz 75 fps / 75 hz 90 fps / 90hz 144 fps / 144hz

@charliebrownau

5 жыл бұрын

Also it seems SOME freesync screens only do Adaptive sync via DISPLAY PORT

Honestly, flickering is worse than tearing.

@TheRubiksPilot

5 жыл бұрын

Jeg Heter stuttering and flickering is worse than tearing because at least you aren’t missing a frame

@pizzafrenzyman

5 жыл бұрын

only if your FPS is higher than your Refresh rate.

@parsastrife6629

5 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I had a lot of issues with tearing on my old 60Hz monitor but after I got my 144Hz monitor I am not noticing any tearing at all even if my fps drops to 60 and below. The monitor is just refreshing so quickly I can't really see the tearing unless I really try to see it in specific scenes. I don't really feel the need of any kind of adaptive sync at all.

@V8_Diva

5 жыл бұрын

I would rather have 144hz with tearing than 144hz with flickering.

@V8_Diva

5 жыл бұрын

@@parsastrife6629 144hz still tears, but the tears are much smaller because of the 2.5x refresh rate increase.

People: “G-Sync monitors have special hardware that warrants an extra $200-300+ price tag. You can’t just flip a switch and get this.” NVIDIA: “We’re flipping the switch.” 4Head

@Takashita_Sukakoki

5 жыл бұрын

no gsync laptop has ever had a gsync module... think about that

@imnotusingmyrealname4566

5 жыл бұрын

@@Takashita_Sukakoki It just works.

@HarryPearce7

5 жыл бұрын

variable overdrive

@jaggsta

5 жыл бұрын

G-Sync monitors have really come down in price Dell 27" 1440p 144hz G-sync monitor was $350 over holidays and FreeSync version was $280

@Fabianthehunter

5 жыл бұрын

it really just works...and this is the reason why i paid some € more

500k subs! Congrats guys!

@stevethea5250

5 жыл бұрын

You enable gsync and vsync (on by default) in the nvidia control panel. You leave vsync off in the game itself. Gsync works from like 30fps to your max refresh. Normally best to set frame limiter in game to your max refresh. No need tp turn down settings unless you're down below 60 a lot.

Congrats on 500K!

Congrats on 500K to all the team at GN. You do awesome work!!

Huge congrats on 500k guys, here's to a Million :)

Thank you Tech Jesus, the only CES coverage I actually want to see

@Gamer Nexus Congrats on crossing the 500k subs mark. You guys are by far the best tech outlet on any platform with the highest integrity of all. All the best in the future

Congrats on 500k subs! Well deserved!

CONGRATS ON 500K SUBS 👊♥️

Over 500k subs! Congrats. It's well earned.

500k! Steve, you promised a Face Reveal!

@barbaralynnaltorfer3737

3 жыл бұрын

Now they got over 1.3 mil

Congrats for 500K!!! Keep it up!!!

It would be great if they released the full list with the monitors that failed, and on what they failed. That would give consumers a heads up if they plan to buy either the monitor or a GPU.

@NovaDoll

5 жыл бұрын

AlphaPT we are speculating companies paid to be on the list.

@Vultrux

Жыл бұрын

Really late reply but... on Nvidia's website there is a G-sync monitor list of passing monitors and what their specs are. So to answer your question, if the monitor is not on the list it has NOT been looked at by Nvidia. There are definitely manufacturers out there currently that are lying about their 'gysnc-compatible' status.

I don't feel like this video answered the question in the title. I get now what non-compatible means.

this is the best news i have heard in a while it really opens up the monitor market a huge amount im excited about this

Finally a short video thank god

Its about time nvidia allows you to turn on a technology which, i feel, everyone needs to experience. It makes frame drops so much more bearable, especially at a high refresh rate

Example for my monitor, Samsung C32HG70, Freesync 2 with refresh rate range of 48-144Hz over DisplayPort. This gives a factor of 3, so I guess this should be OK. Finally some concrete information about the nature of validation, great work!

I would love to hear about any plans for HDMI 2.1 support (4K TVs, like the just announced LG OLEDs).

@seanorion7106

5 жыл бұрын

That's what I'm most excited to hear about besides the BFGD. I really hope it gets more coverage

@jasonterry1959

5 жыл бұрын

Don't use tv's for gaming, if that's what you're talking about. TV's have like 40ms delay. monitors have at MOST 5ms, and you can virtually always find ones with 1-2ms easily.

@paskowitz

5 жыл бұрын

@@jasonterry1959 HDMI 2.1 meaningfully addresses latency.

@Qyngali

5 жыл бұрын

Nvidia doesn't support adaptive sync at all over HDMI, only displayport.

@teemumalinen9901

5 жыл бұрын

@@jasonterry1959 TV's these days have Game Mode settings that disable a lot of the delay inducing crap. For example, 2018 LG OLEDs have about 20 ms delay. That is plenty low enough unless you're a sweaty CS player or something like that.

So happy about this!

Freesync 2 monitors should have a great compatibilty with Gsync, right ?

@medimeb

5 жыл бұрын

In theory yes! www.amd.com/en/products/freesync-monitors

@MekanikKommandoh88

5 жыл бұрын

They should. I’m hopeful because I just bought a Freesync 2 1440p running a Nvidia card, as I refuse to pay for Gsync.

@bobhumplick4213

5 жыл бұрын

well ill just tell you that the monitor that he said was "ok" for him is a freesync 2 monitor. i have it. its a samsung chg70 most likely. i think the problem with it though is that overdrive only works from 120-144hz. if you stay in that range then it will look great most likely. lower fps is probalby where the problem is. of course samsung made monitors in 1080p and some that are less expensive int he same style as this one and maybe thats what they are. but they are all 144hz monitors. and im pretty sure thats my cgh70 with freesync 2 right there. but again if you can keep the fps above 120 you should be good. im sure a lot of monitors will have the same situation where with some settings or some ranges it will work fine.

@bobhumplick4213

5 жыл бұрын

and even out of the 120-144 hz range i think it just has a bit of blur or ghosting. nothing huge. i dont knwo about other freesync 2 montiors but i think similar probalby. to be honest if you play high refresh adaptive sync is over rated. for refresh rates around 60 its nice though

@terabitdefiance8022

5 жыл бұрын

@@bobhumplick4213 yeah, i have the c32hg70. Idk which one specifically is there, but theyre probably the same thing anyway. Its probably the 32 inch one. Seems huge.

AdoredTV explained Nvidia's move to make up a validation system pretty good as well. Thank you for the more technical update though :D

I have a Pascal and Maxwell machine is Maxwell going to get support for this?

Thanks for going in depth into this, it's the most important announcement of the event for me. One thing I'd like to know is, if Nvidia will be testing all those televisions coming out with adaptive sync?

"Everything just works." - Jensen Huang

LFC on FreeSync used to require 2.5x between min and max, but that got relaxed down to 2x + 1 on a lot of panels. I'm not sure if AMD do per-panel validation before enabling LFC on monitors over 2x but under 2.5x, but would be a great question to ask them. I think NVIDIA (and AMD) want that extra buffer because jumping from min / max Hz could put a lot of strain on the scaler and cuz edge-case flickering.

@yulfine1688

5 жыл бұрын

gsync actually covers the complete range up to 144hz or 240hz now. Compared to amds much smaller freesync range. The module also covers other calibrations for color and brightness and does more overall compared to freesync so yes the module that costs 100-150$ more has more benefits over freesync.

@chibanga88

5 жыл бұрын

@Eara Soulous a lot of people seam to think it goes from 1 to max on G-Sync, the modules have a minimum refresh rate, 30Hz, 40Hz 80Hz, when it goes bellow this range it uses LFR and repeats the last frame until it can catch up again.

@SilenceGProd

5 жыл бұрын

I have a monitor that has the AMD FreeSync logo (www.acer.com/ac/de/CH/content/professional-model/UM.HB0EE.A11) But review websites say that it's 48-75Hz What the hell is happening? Where is the 2.0X ??

@yulfine1688

5 жыл бұрын

@@chibanga88 that's what freesync does...gsync covers the entire range.

@chibanga88

5 жыл бұрын

Normal Freesync turns itself off bellow it's minimum, Freesync with LFR repeats frames, and G-Sync also repeats frames, I don't know were this idea came from, but i don't recal NVidia ever saing such thing, tests have been made, it repeats frames.I do have a question, what would be the problem with LFR that even requires correction?

Awesome vid! Thanks for the details on this. When should we expect this Adaptive Sync support to go live? Is it limited to specific video card models?

Thanks, I had a few questions and now they're answered. I'll have to try out the new driver and see how the experience is on my setup(1080 with a 32" HP omen 75hz 1440p freesync monitor). Been stuck at 59-60 locked framerate due to lack of freesync. I'm sure even if it does work with my monitor when the driver comes out it won't be a night and day difference, but it's nice to possibly get the full potential out of my current setup.

VESA Adaptive Sync is the standard (VESA also sets the standard for Display Port). "FreeSync" is AMDs marketing term for it. "GSync Compatible" is Nvidias marketing name for it.

@BUDA20

5 жыл бұрын

I think AMD supports it over HDMI too in certain setups, but Nvidia is displayport only

@bayanzabihiyan7465

5 жыл бұрын

@@BUDA20 yep, freesync over HDMI is why X-box can do it.

What would be an interesting test is LG 34GK950 (Gsync) vs LG 34GK950F (Freesync). The two monitors use the same panel, and the Gsync version is actually held a bit back due to the use of the version 1 Gsync module to keep costs down. If flickering etc is not present on the Freesync version this could be a good option.

Interesting topic . Keep the good work created l

So there is no Maxwell compatibility? Or Maxwell just get it later?

GN always delivers

I’d be interested to know if there is a difference in performance with G-Sync on a freesync monitor like the 34GK950F vs G-Sync on a natively supported G-sync monitor like its 34GK950G counterpart (literally the same panel but with a native G-Sync module in it).

I'm glad this is a thing as someone who already owns a 1440p 144hz freesync monitor. Hopefully some time in the near future we'll see a wider coverage of monitors.

@xmr323

5 жыл бұрын

One can only hope that this will work out of the box for you when you enable it! Thankfully they are at least letting us test it and see for ourselves whether its better!

1080p 144hz freesync + RX 580 here. As my first build moving over from console gaming the difference is awesome. It really did improve my gameplay in shooters, which most likely is due to the combination of mouse over gamepad and higher refresh rates, but still. My girlfriend can't play LOL on her 60hz laptop any more without it feeling laggy now either. Yay for high refresh rates and adaptive sync!

XG258 owner here, this is awesome news :)

I haven't been this early since you had sub 15k subs

Any news about it working with Maxwell and will y'all check to see if it will work with older cards even though it's known to be only the last two generations of cards

Credit where credit is due: I appreciate NVidia giving users the ability to turn on adaptive sync, even if their monitor isn’t approved.

Now that nvidia cards support FreeSync, does this mean manufacturers will stop producing newer products with midrange gsync panels like Acer xb271hu/Dell S2417DG/S2716DG or will similar new monitors continue to be produced?

Someone like Steve needs to actually test these once they roll it out. One of the major weaknesses of freesync displays is much higher input lag without the gsync hardware onboard. See tftcentral's LG 950F/950G reviews for info on this (same panel, one with gsync and one with freesync). My guess is that the "Gsync Compatible" displays without the actual hardware on them will have input lag more similar to freesync displays, which is to say worse. Say what you will about the gsync pricing strategy, but there are valid reasons why Nvidia opted to use a hardware solution.

Is this different from the adaptive sync option already available in the driver panel under 3d settings ---> manage 3d settings? Running a GTX 1080 with 417.35 drivers.

is there a list of the failed monitors? and when can we test our current monitors?

For the first time, this is new tech that I can actually use. I bought a 1070ti and a Asus VG278Q a few months ago and have kicked myself since because I didn't grab a 580 instead. Hope the reality of the new support lives up to my expectations!

This was my favorite part of the whole announcement from Nvidia because I will finally eat able use adaptive sync with my GTX 1070 on my ROG Strix freesync monitor. Good guy Nvidia for making this free feature finally available to their customers.

I am confused. There is "Adaptive" VSync in driver options. It disables VSync, if frame rate goes below display refresh. I don't think it have anything to do with GSync and FreeSync.

How to find out the freesync (or now gsync) range of a monitor if it doesn't seem to be listed anywhere on the manufacturer website or the printed manual? I have a Samsung C34H890WJU monitor. I would assume the range is 48-100 since that's what most Samsung 100Hz monitors use but is there a test to find out for sure?

Whoa, this is a huge announcement! I just bought a used Vega 56 to run a 1080p 144hz freesync monitor. If my monitor works, I might have been better going with team green.

A short term solution would be to turn up your in game graphics settings to lower your FPS to be equal to or less than your monitor's refresh rate.

Do you get more quality if you use a monitor with actual g sync built in as to one that is free sync with g sync enabled, like a asus Swift pg258q vs asus strix xg258q

i didnt quite understand the 2.4 and 2.5 refresh thing i have a freesync monitor thats 48-75hz so if i fall below the 48fps then illget a double frame? if it works on my monitor? did i get that right

would it be possible to have a list of the monitors that were already tested and failed to be compatible?

Two of monitors that they mentioned were the Asus : XG248 and XG258. I googled both of these but for some reason i only see XG248Q & XG258Q (Rog Strix versions). Are these the monitors they are referring to?

new to pc. Had my rig a year.. my monitor (acerXG270HU) is g sync compatible.. Ive never had tearing or any problem in the past. I updated my drive and cant tell a difference.. What should I be looking for to understand what im getting with the update?

does this mean that we can now use the sync feature from nvidia graphics card on a certain freesync monitor?

So can I use my Vega Frontier Edition on Dell S2716DG to get some kind of Freesync. All the coverage seems to revolve around Nvidia supporting Freesync on some Gsync monitors what about using a Gsync monitor with a Amd Vega GPU?

Question. I have a Samsung u28d590d 60hz 4k freesync monitor,it looks amazing but being I have a1080 ti ftw3 I upgraded to an alienware 240hz 1080p gsync display. I miss the 4k and really notice the lower resolution. Being that now possibly I could use gsync on the 4k display... Would you? Could you go from 240hz to 60hz for the resolution upgrade if both had gsync? Thanks cause I was about to sell the 4k monitor for $200 not sure if I should now

@corenne

5 жыл бұрын

I personally prefer a higher resolution over higher frames in most of my games. I have a 4k screen and absolutely cannot go back to 1080 no matter the frame rate, it's just too jarring after using a higher resolution. I've regretted my upgrade to 4k60 ever since testing 1440/144, that seems to be the sweet spot as the difference between 1440 and 4k is practically unnoticeable in the games I play (arena shooters, FPS and city builders (the last one may be the exception)

@GhostWritersParanormalPortal

5 жыл бұрын

@@corenne i am going to hook up my 4k and see if gsync works on it now.. if so at the very least I could sell it much easier.. cause I would like to sell both of mine and get 1440/144 as well.. perfect balance.. i paid a premium just to get gsync and honestly i cant tell a difference lol

I have a Dell U2415 is it fine where can i find documents on what monitor is fine, i have two chronic eye conditions. Too bright kills me and colors have to be washed a bit, my actual monitor is fine so far, but i was looking for a 1440P monitor without becoming blind by white or brigtness.? thanks in advance for every answer.

2:00 I think that's my screen on the left, 34" LG 34UC79G-B. and I do get the random occasional what seems to be a single black frame. but that doesn't seam to happen until my EVGA SC 1070 gets up to 85c in Destiny 2 frames capped at 100fps. I also capped my refresh rate at 100hz in windows/nvidia control panel, since most of my games don't realistically play at a constant 144fps.

I'm very curious if these (read: non-validated) monitors shown here also have the same issues on AMD graphics cards using FreeSync...

Will there be Maxwell support later on?

@masift1494

3 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't count on it considering how old that architecture is at this point. I just looked online and none of the Maxwell cards support freesync. Only pascal and newer cards are supporting it. Unfortunate, but it seems almost all Nvidia cards will support g-sync (obviously) although it's just really expensive...

Will this work with every geforce videocard (for example my msi gtx 1070ti)? or only with the rtx card? Or only with nvidia's founders edition?

So what does the hardware G-sync module do exactly? I a bit confused about that.

What is the qualifications for having this "new" g-sync? can a monitor like ASUS VG248QE support it? it has DP 1.2 and 144hz

Please test how FS monitor + Nvidia works vs FS+AMD later, esp with monitors that exhibit blinking/flashing. Also, for the middle monitor, is it really freesync that messes up the image? I'd think it was the panel itself, no matter if FS is enabled or not.

i do wanna ask ~ why TN panel ? currently confirmed monitor are TN panel ~ is it GTG are just better on TN so like easier to validate ?

It's worth pointing out that FreeSync isn't just AMD's branded version of VESA adaptive sync. AMD drove the creation of the open standard. VESA adaptive sync is, in a very real sense, FreeSync.

So if your FreeSync monitor has a refresh range of 48-144Hz such as a XG27VQ or a XG32VQ , This would put you to a ratio of 3. Would being at a ratio of 3 be better overall, Or is 2.5 the target?

3:07 OH HELL YEAH!!! my monitors compatible

@Zeerialo

5 жыл бұрын

SuperDan what's you montor

Man! I've been seriously considering buying a desktop for a while since I got a 34" ultrawide Crossover monitor that supports Freesync. Just to be able to use an AMD video card and Freesync along with it, but there hasn't been a good card to buy for 3440x1440 at 75+ FPS. I know it's under-powered for the task, but I've been getting by with a laptop GTX 1060 on this monitor for a while. Will I be able to enable adaptive sync/Freesync on this monitor and use it with my laptop? My understanding is "Yes." But when can I start, and how do I do it?

So my question is (probably a dumb question but) will Nvidia support adaptive sync on their current GSync monitors as well? Doubt it, since that would mean making the modules play nice with AMD (and Intel, in the future), but one can hope...

I have an AOC 24" 144hz and can confirm it works with G-Sync compatibility, no issues in games I can see except in Benchmark software where the screen went black for a scene but not sure if that was just a Jo-incidence with a C?

So my freesync monitor with HDMI but no display port will not work? What about display port to HDMI cable?

is this prep work, and/or confirmation hdmi 2.1 on nvidia's next cards?

Hi i need some help my monitor broke week ago and i need to buy new, and I can not decide you can advise me something . 27 inches IPS gsync or freesync 300-650$ it would be great. My english is not perfect so I hope you understand everything.

So I wonder if this means that one with a Ryzen APU and Nvidia GPU could get a non-adaptive sync monitor, "Enable Freesync" through CRU, and then use the Freesync monitor with the Nvidia GPU?

I can't seem to find a single fucking G Sync monitor because everywhere is so diluted with this "G-SYNC Compatible" false advertising bullshit.

@maxirunpl

2 ай бұрын

2 years passed and fucking same. All g-sync monitors categories on sites are actually g-sync compatible in the spects. I can't find a monitor with the actual g-sync module.

DAGNABBIT nVidia! I just bought an Asus PG27UQ about 3 months ago (4K/HDR/G-Snyc/144Hz) for the low low price of just a few hundred dollars less than my 65inch LG 4K OLED TV. I really hope they expand into HDMI as well for everyone who like to game on their couch.

so how/where do I enable this for my CHG90 monitor to see if it works, or is acceptable for me?

is the acer xf240h the same model as xfa240? or is it different?

What about the second AMD GPU/APU signal forwarding "hack"? Does this still work to get FreeSync to get while using nGreedia cards? Or has it been improved by modders by any chance?

Will "G-Sync Compatible" work over HDMI or DP? If so, what version? Also, is the driver going to be backwards-compatible with older video cards? Or is this only going to work with more recent video cards?

Will maxwell and other older cards recieve support for gsync compatible monitors?

i hope you would be able to test the range i.e my freesync monitor is 40hz-75hz but id be happy with 50hz-75hz

At 3:00 says benq XL2740 uses freesync?or thats a mistake?

How does input lag compare between g sync and g sync compatible monitors?

Would someone mind keeping an eye on the monitors prices? In both US, EU and AUS, im really interested in how this turns out .. but even if its just freesync, I feel like its now gonna increase the price with this nvidia compatible things.

My viewsonic has a freesync range of 48 to 144hz. Is that a good vr range? Using your equation it comes out at 3. Really hope it works. Will be great to just not be locked into either ecosystem

When updated drivers will be available to download?

@randirlom9508

5 жыл бұрын

I heard 15 Jan to coincide with the 2060

I have a freesync monitor and gtx1050ti with the latest drivers and i dont get the option in control panel?

will this support older nvidia gpus or just the 10 series and the upcoming 20 series?

Is Nvidia going to maintain an updated list of G-Sync Compatible displays on their website? Will manufacturer have some sort of "G-Sync Compatible" branding to put on their products?

Hmm that list of monitors didn't include the Dell monitor I got recently that said it was G-sync compatible. Hope I wasn't lied too

So is there going to be a driver update for the compatible gpu's then?

but can i use one monitor with G-Sync at the same time as another one with "FreeSync" on my gtx 1070?

So having a g sync compatible monitor paired with my 3080 will it be good on warzone i bought the aw2731