I am so glad that you found and solved the issue. During the entire video, I thought it was going be the Headlight that caused the problem. You sure did a good job with presenting this video.!

@YouMotorcycle

Жыл бұрын

AngelFace! Thanks so much! It was really embarrassing at the time. It happened at a customer's place. First I bring his bike back to life, and then mine dies lol. Glad it's over now.

@AngelFaceMotoRider

Жыл бұрын

Plus it costed you very little if anything to Fix 🙂 I didn't know Lithium Batteries are normally run higher then 12.7 Volts.

@YouMotorcycle

Жыл бұрын

It was news to me too! 😂 I wanted to make this common knowledge so other people wouldn't waste time like I did to figure it out lol

@AngelFaceMotoRider

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I get that. You did a great video explaining everything & I like the twist in the plot, bcz it wasn't the Chinese Headlight after all.

starting procedure , when u start the bike hold the start button about 2-3 seconds more After it starts , leave it to bmw to over complicate a thumper , what the 2-3 seconds does is resets the fuel injection , and if the battery has gone bad , everything goes bonkers , also it take about 10 second to clear so if one turns off the ignition switch and then turns it back on it doesn't reset , this drove me bonkers before I learned of this , stalling , cutting off and then coming back , if I stoped at a gas station I would have to wait for the engine to cool down cause pressure in the cylinder , I got in the habit of having a jumper battery , just in case , but the starting procedure, eliminated , my issues , ohh and if you don't do the procedure every time , it will get weird again , great bike , I've a 2009 , thank god for you tube

@YouMotorcycle

Жыл бұрын

Hey David, thanks for sharing. That's wild. I've never had to deal with that before. Hopefully I never will!

@pb7379-j2k

Жыл бұрын

The hot start problem is a recall

@davidschoenoff4262

Жыл бұрын

@@pb7379-j2k yup it was , however good luck if one has a older bike mine is 2009 , the recall if iam not mistaken was a software update , or a depression arm that opens up a valve so the piston can rotate , and can get past the pressure And was only for 2001 and later , the hot start problem also happens if one’s battery is not at a full charge I have the decompression arms But have found out that if one doesn’t stick to the starting procedure the fuel injection system goes a bit bonkers Stalling and such forth All in all I have one of those small jumper boxes that I Cary with me , and that has been a big help , I ride my g650gs. Every day between 20-60 miles and about a month back Had to get a new battery I also have a 2003 r1150gs Which is the opposite end of the spectrum I’ve had a 2014 f800gs which I absolutely loved, other then it was tall and on uneven ground was tricky if one had to stop quickly ,Iif I get another one I will lower it as at 6 foot tall I was up on tip toes and the 2014 f800 was the tallest bike Bmw made and I just felt with it , I’ve also had a 2011 f650 gs which I bought new , that one was a bit of a beast I buy build and sell, do almost all my own work , I follow every thing I can and I try to help and read the forums as much as I can , am I expert , no . But I love these bikes and these forums are full of like minded folks, I really can’t thank all enough. So I do my best to give back Thank all of you , for what you all give I like the gs’s adventure bikes

@jamesdouglas9812

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the extra hold on starter button tip. Have a habit of just dabbing starter button and found that does not help my 2005 650 Dakar to start well. So already holding extra second on start button but your tip offers a justification for that. V useful 👌

Great lessons to learn, and thanks for sharing the process! Almost every day, there's something to be learned in life :D

@YouMotorcycle

Жыл бұрын

You bet man! Just glad the manufacturer was cool, owned up to it, and sent out a new one. All's well that ends well, assuming it doesn't happen again lol

I'm not sure why I didn't get a notification? I'm glad you got it sorted and did a great job showing how to troubleshoot it. Keep up the great work and congrats on 11k subs!

@YouMotorcycle

Жыл бұрын

Thanks brother! I had no idea 12.7 volts = dead when dealing with lithium batteries. Learned something new!

Great video and excellent find. As they say, better to check and be informed. thanks for sharing.

@YouMotorcycle

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

I was listening to a guy that did 150 000km on his and had to repleace battery very often (after half a year from new) until he was told that because of the placement (above the engine) the heat caused a need for top ups with distilled water. And with the top ups the batteries lasted regular time. Hope it helps ;)

@MiCiNpk

8 ай бұрын

"If the level drops too low and the lead plates are exposed to air they deteriorate rapidly leading to battery failure. Regularly check electrolyte level and top up with de-ionised or distilled water when necessary"

@YouMotorcycle

8 ай бұрын

I switched to a sealed battery on one of my G650GS, and I'm still using the (replacement) lithium battery on the other. So far so good! Saves some weight up high but honestly I can't say I actually feel the difference

Dear Sir, I live in Australia and also have a 2014 BMW G650GS and I did swap out the original battery with a Lithium battery, I also bought a dedicated Lithium battery charger and also have the bike on trickle charge when I'm not using it, however I also have a Yamaha XT250 which also has a Lithium battery in it and recently I had to take it for a yearly compliance check for vehicle registration and guess what the Lithium battery WAS completely dead, even though I had that on a trickle charger also. I cannot remember if the Lithium battery in the Yamaha XT250 had the BMS system incorporated into the battery?, thankfully I still had the old lead acid battery ( also on a trickle charger ) that got me out of trouble I will be checking my fuse box on my BMW G650GS also for any corrosion! Safe Riding

@YouMotorcycle

Жыл бұрын

It's weird that the lithium on the XT just died despite being on a charger. What brand name was it?

@alanreilly9056

Жыл бұрын

Thank you , the brand of the Lithium battery that died in the Yamaha XT250 was a TDR LITHIUM-ION ultralite, model LFP-7, not sure if this a reputable brand or not?

Great little video .just a point my GS 650 Dakar I have gone back to lead acid the other battery especially non maintenance don't last long my lead acid every 1000 miles I check and always needs distilled water but at least I can maintain it and it lasts

@YouMotorcycle

Жыл бұрын

Thanks David. Its been really interesting seeing people share a lot of feedback about battery wear on this bike. Seems like quite a common thing.

I have had endless problems with lithium batteries as a seller, simple answer....forget them ! An AGM battery is far more reliable and a damned sight cheaper.

@YouMotorcycle

4 ай бұрын

Very interesting feedback. Do you mind me asking what brand(s) you were selling, if you're willing to share?

@irondonkey65

4 ай бұрын

@@YouMotorcycle Begins with Sho and ends in rai.

Excellent learning experience! Bottom line: don’t spend the extra $100 on a lithium battery. The generic $70 units work just fine and don’t have itsy bitsy covid capacitors that drop dead out of nowhere.

@YouMotorcycle

2 ай бұрын

Currently using lithiums in two of the motorcycles I use most... Just not on the one I do my touring on

My 4 year old EarthX just quit suddenly. No warranty of course so I split the case and took a look. Major corrosion on the battery controller board inside. I tried to clean and revive it but I was unsuccessful. Really enjoyed the extra cranking power but at twice the cost of a SLA battery it's back to a conventional Yuasa for now.

@YouMotorcycle

Жыл бұрын

Oh man. That's not good news. Any warning signs along the way or just straight to failure?

@darrenmurphy1046

Жыл бұрын

@@YouMotorcycle Bike was hard to start a couple days prior then wouldn't even crank one morning. That was it.

@YouMotorcycle

Жыл бұрын

@@darrenmurphy1046 at least you got some warning lol

We all make mistakes. I'm sure they both appreciate each other in the end. That's how life fe goes....

you might get some rust around the fuze box just take the fuzes out and clean the contacts, yeah warm battery = bad. can explode

@YouMotorcycle

Жыл бұрын

Thanks bro, you're the man! I was literally going to tweet you the picture after I finish making dinner (it's on my computer) haha. Yours is still the best review on this bike kzread.info/dash/bejne/d62lt5ikg7TehLg.html

Do you have any tips for insuring multiple motorcycles? I notice you have quite a few and figure you might have some tips/tricks. Possible video idea?

@YouMotorcycle

Жыл бұрын

For starters call EVERYWHERE. The company I've been with for 4 years wants $1k more for a Z900RS than a company I've never dealt with before, same coverage. Secondly I never have more than two bikes insured at once. Just too expensive for me. You can switch the coverage during the year and there shouldn't be any fee for that. Thirdly, make more money than I do if you want to insure a lot of bikes at once in Ontario lol

lmao CGI is top tier. Also, glad to see the G650 is still going!

@YouMotorcycle

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha! Thanks. I do my best to bring you guys top tier special effects lol. The G650 is great. I'm currently getting a bunch of quotes to ship it to Italy to ride across the country!

@bulbakip6380

Жыл бұрын

@@YouMotorcycle most excellent!! I will do the same one day. but im also considering touring the world on my VanVan200. Also, I forgot to mention, I used your vids to convince myself to get the g650gs! have a great tim eon your trip. looking forward to seeing your travel vlogs! I personally like side mounted helmet cams, if youre taking input there ;))

@YouMotorcycle

Жыл бұрын

VanVan200 is a great option for that trip too!

All of reddit would have told you "ITS THE BATTERY" right away. Paint peeling? Battery. No reverse gear? Battery.

@YouMotorcycle

Жыл бұрын

😂 it was the 12.7 volts that threw me off

@invisio

Жыл бұрын

@@YouMotorcycle that's why you test it with the leads still attached. Any battery might show good voltage disconnected. It's under load(headlights, starting, etc) where you see good or bad. 12 volts just means it's charged. A bad battery can be charged but unable to actually provide any current. It will sag waaay down.

@YouMotorcycle

Жыл бұрын

@@invisio yup, measured with the leads still connected, but the failed battery couldn't even get lights to come on or the dash to come on remember?

Does anyone else have corrosion in their fuse box or know what's going on here? Please let me know! 👇

@DiegoAstorga

Жыл бұрын

I have an '06 650GS, I've never seen something like in the fuse box, but I will check them in the next days, just in case, what I did have was problems with a lithium battery back in the day, I returned to regular acid batts and never had a problem again. Lithium batteries don't like extreme cold or heat, and as it is mounted over the engine, it takes all the heat!

@YouMotorcycle

Жыл бұрын

@@DiegoAstorga hmm, thanks for the warning, that's interesting. I did 2000+ km on this battery and it only died on a cool day (November). If something happens to the next lithium battery I'll know you were right!

I’m not hearing of Lithium being used in a CA (cranking amps) and constant charge application. Why is this your choice?

@YouMotorcycle

Жыл бұрын

Lithium equivalents typically offer more CCA compared to the OEM parts. I like the lighter weight, especially considering the battery sits above the center of gravity on this bike.

Where did you get your LED light?

@YouMotorcycle

Ай бұрын

Install video here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/d4JrmceBgaaXhpc.html Headlight here: ebay.us/lnhhoi

I had this issue on my g450 ! Hahaha

@YouMotorcycle

5 ай бұрын

Really? A lithium battery component failing? Damn. What are the odds?

Nice video, can you please provide a link for the beautiful headlight? Have a great day!

@YouMotorcycle

10 ай бұрын

Thank you. Here you go: LED HEADLIGHT: ebay.us/lnhhoi DRL Adapter: amzn.to/3DV7MWu

i subscribed because your close was good and you said to sub

@YouMotorcycle

Жыл бұрын

I should watch it again and see what I did haha. Thanks very much! :)

Still odd that bike die at 12.7 you would thank it would keep running .

@YouMotorcycle

Жыл бұрын

That's a good point man. I don't know what that capacitor does or doesn't do or control, but once I got it home it wouldn't even take a charge or hold a charge anymore, so maybe the capacitor failure made something else in the battery go wrong. I don't know. Maybe old school heavy lead acid batteries aren't so bad after all.

@TheBlueBikeDoyle

Жыл бұрын

@@YouMotorcycle yep . I think about going to Lithium battery myself.

Congrats for a vry fair commet.

@YouMotorcycle

Жыл бұрын

Thank you kindly

Batteries are bitches. There are a lot of different technologies. Currently I'm running a AGM lead acid battery, which means that instead of just having liquid hydrochloric acid in the battery case, there is an fibrous glass mat in there sopping wet with acid, between the plates. So if it's tilted, acid doesn't run out. AGM = absorbed glass mat. So different battery technologies have different requirements. Since my charging system was set up for a lead acid battery, I didn't want to change the battery technology. A 12 volt lead acid battery charger should charge at around 14.5 volts, so that's what the charger is going to put out. but the battery itself should charge to about 13.6 volts, sitting there, waiting to do something. Then you turn the key and try to start it. If you have your meter on the battery, It should have enough capacity to start your engine. That means, it has to turn your engine over, while still having enough voltage to run the fuel injection, and electronic ignition systems. I can tell by the sound, if my GS is going to start. Turning over is one thing, having enough power to run all the systems which are needed to run the engine, is another. BTW, if your fuse block is corroded, it's not water tight. So fix that, and maybe put some silicone grease in there as well.

@YouMotorcycle

7 ай бұрын

Thank you for the tip. I wonder if someone left it open once... hmm... As for the battery, I went with a lithium for the GS just because the battery is up high, I figured a little less weight up there wouldn't hurt. The poor bike already has to carry me, the missus on the back seat, and all our gear in the cases lol

So your gs didn’t “finally die” then 😂

@YouMotorcycle

Ай бұрын

No. But after exploring many options I figured out what finally killed it

Not waiting for the end but I would never use a weird no name brand in anything at all. My experience is that those products always cause some sort of mystery….

@YouMotorcycle

Жыл бұрын

Lol did you see what it was in the end? I won't spoil it but, it wasn't the headlight

Gee you added chinese made Gimcracks your charging system is NOT designed for, and surprise now your bike isn't reliable, and you live in fear. One word Optima AGM battery. well it's 3, but it's still the last word. AGM.

@YouMotorcycle

Жыл бұрын

Gee you didn't watch very much of the video if you think the headlight was the problem....

@captlarry-3525

Жыл бұрын

@@YouMotorcycle I think your old lead/acid unsealed battery blitzed your fuse block, that you added a lithium battery your bike isn't designed to charge ( higher charge voltage required) .. and god know how many other chinese variable you added to the mix. My point.. don;t dick with it.