Do you have a picture of your tier list without you in front of it so that I may share it with my friends? & Thank you for the VID!!! Good work.

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

Here's a screenshot of the final Tier list: drive.google.com/file/d/1F_BANNGlXB1j1U3LyQDwrjABAIVhi0BY/view

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the kind words appreciate it!

@_marduk

3 ай бұрын

THANK YOU THANK YOU!! Very kind:D@@NewbHammer40K

Very comprehensive overview! You’re so experienced.

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

Thank you!

As a Drukhari player, I would maybe bump us down to Should be OK. We have a fantastic combat patrol it's true but we have a lot of core units which are resin and now out of production. Luckily, they were all models most people kitbashed and Drukhair as an army really leans well into kitbashing. You can make so many extra characters and units just from the bodies you get off the transports. And you have a great community of people who can point you to what works best for kitbashing. I think you'll have a good time but with the caveat of if you're willing to kitbash

@IBPaintsppp-wt5ou

3 ай бұрын

I'll add that flight stands, especially for the ravager/raiders, are a struggle that mainly Eldar and Drukhari have. Yep, Drukhari has one of the highest percent out of production/fine cast models. It has models like the grotesques, beast pack, and court of the archon that you have to 3D print or kitbash. This is a lot of fun, but it means that it's nearly impossible to have an all GW model Drukhari army which is a problem, I think, for GW tournaments Also Drukhari is more of a horde army which most people don't realize when starting, even if they aren't supposed to be. I have more of a horde collection, but it comes out to 190 miniatures for 4,000 points which feels as horde-y as some tyrranid or ork collections. And yes Drukhari is a more expensive army. Poorhammer ranked them the 5th most expensive army when not considering bundles (1.94 points per dollar). I'd put Drukhari as tough choice, but I know some people would consider it easier. I'm sure I feel that way in part because Drukhari was my first army. I think Drukhari is a faction that you should go all in on. It's a tough army to put together and fully appreciate when it's one of 3 work in progress armies. And yet Drukhari is my favorite army. Their aesthetics, lore, customization, and variety are absolutely incredible.

I'm starting with Votann. Limited model range is a benefit for me as a beginner because it's easier to grasp this army.

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

That’s a good point. They don’t have any redundancies yet, if you need something they have one unit that does it

@printandplaygamer7134

3 ай бұрын

@@NewbHammer40K Apart from the cost-per-point situation, Votann is a pretty good beginner faction.They are reasonably well-balanced against the competition, and although Votann has a couple of standout units, none of the small handful of choices available are actually *bad*--they're all usable, so there really aren't any traps. They are a tad expensive, though, as there isn't much of a secondary market yet, and their rules and points make them a bit less elite than you'd expect, given that their battleline troops are wearing power armor. The holiday box was an excellent value, if you can find it; the Combat Patrol is fine, but you really only want one box, since the Berserkers it comes with are probably the single least-useful unit in the faction right now. Votann are also pretty easy to paint--since they are essentially just short space marines, you can apply pretty much all the jillions of how-to-paint-space-marines-fast tutorials to them.

@robertlewis8295

2 ай бұрын

That's where I'm starting too. SPACE DWARVES!!!!!! Diggy, diggy hole! I was able to put aside the money for 2 of the x-mas boxes. Wish they came with more ironkyn heads and bits.

Thank you! I’m planning on starting soon, so I appreciate this list. :)

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

Awesome! Good luck! Let me know what you choose

A quick note for Imperial Guard. The Death Corps of Krieg are supposed to be getting a whole new plastic range before the end of the year to add to the Kill Team box they got last year so probably a new combat patrol themed around them & with luck a christmas battle box too which would make a solid start to the army. All the vehicles currently useable by guard will be useable by Krieg. You could also use the new 30k Solar Auxilla as your own unique guard faction.

Thanks for the summary, as someone just getting into the hobby this helped me tremendously.

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

Happy to help. Welcome and have fun!

Very good video, solid quality for such a new channel.

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

Thank you! Hoping to keep the quality up!

I feel you with ad mech. Ad mech was my first army and I stopped at 500 points and transitioned to Drukhari which I eventually grew to 2,000+ points. Maybe someday ad mech will be more viable to build and collect...

Coming from someone who has been playing since mid-7th edition, Newb's advice is rock solid. A good blend of rules, painting difficulty, rule of cool, sub-factions, and personal taste all rolled in. I don't necessarily share the same aesthetic or favorite armies, but I can't argue with your ranks. Good advice, Great vid, and well done graphics and timing. Only critique is the sharpness of the background. Keep it up, man!

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot! Glad you agreed, I feel like rule of cool is most important but people should still be aware of what they’re getting themselves into lol. Appreciate the advice and thanks a lot for watching!

ended up choosing custodes elite army , amazing lore can’t wait to get painting

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

Great choice! I just recommended a friend to get into the hobby with custodes too and he’s into it. They have a new box coming out that’s full of bikes and terminators, probably gonna worth so many points.

I'm a newer player, bought my first models in June first game in October. I went Ultramarines(insert empty wallet meme here). This is helpful for a second army choice. Appreciate it. Subscribed.

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

Welcome to the hobby! Good first choice, most of my friends also started ultramarines. They’re good for both painting and rules when you’re new, and since they’re good but not great at everything it gives you a good idea of what aspect you’d want your next army to excel in. Let me know what you choose!

@mr.trashtastic3947

3 ай бұрын

Considering I've been struggling in melee at times,Aggressors are pricey. So I'm leaning towards Custodes or Orks. Also the jack of all trades/decent response to everything is why I went Ultramarines in the first place. Just wish I didn't build into Anvil off rip. Got some less than ideal models because of it.@@NewbHammer40K

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

@@mr.trashtastic3947 both seem like great choices. I've been drooling over the Ork vehicles lately.

I'm currently building my Space Wolves Combat Patrol. My god the Warsuit is complex, so many intricate parts but the moving ones are sick af. Absolutely stoked to test em out at the game shop

I would agree with most of these choices. I initially tried to go for AdMech as a second army early in my hobby journey, loved the models and the lore, but ended up not going down that route because of all the things you mentioned. Hope things improve, that faction deserves so much better. A bit more elite, a bit better rules, a few more new models (and not just the lone characters) would go a long way. Nice channel, I liked the video, it was very comprehensive and had better editing than much larger channels! Subscribed. Keep up the good work!

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

Appreciate it!! Thanks for watching! Yeah I think if ad mech were treated like a more elite army it would solve a lot of the problems, fingers crossed!

Cool video, this randomly popped up on my homepage. I hope your channel does well!

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

Glad you clicked on it! Thanks a lot!

High quality video with good logic. Sub! I just started and wanted to build two 1k armies before i fully invested in 1 and i chose necrons and nids.

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

Thanks! Great choices, I have a both of those they’re both a lot of fun. I wish you luck!

I got into the game super recently and chose Astra Militarum based on looks and lore. I love their aesthetic and the idea of regular people against all the horrors of space and beyond are super dope. Definitely agree that they're not easy on the wallet though. Nice video!

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

Thanks! Yeah I love the look of the astra militarium, and with the new infantry models and the rogal dorn tank I still might make a little 500 point army some day. Thanks for watching!

@wildxero

3 ай бұрын

No worries, @@NewbHammer40K. I'm subbed and looking forward to the next video!

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

Appreciate it! @@wildxero

@troutwarrior6735

3 ай бұрын

Guard player here, my advice would be to go for some 3rd party infantry. It’ll be way easier on the wallet, bc you’ll be needing a lot of them ;)

I started with World Eaters because I thought they looked cool lol. I almost picked Chaos Daemons because you can use them in both AoS and 40k (and sometimes have my regrets), plus they're very customizable. World Eaters were just a little cooler to me. They're just not as beginner friendly due to lack of shooting, and I've had a problem finding models and learning how they play. I'd honestly put Daemons MUCH higher on the list simply for the AoS compatability. That's a HUGE selling point for me! Great list though imo! This is really cool stuff, and beginners NEED to hear this stuff! New sub 😁

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

World eaters are super cool! Any factions with their primarch got bonus points from me lol. They are bit too slanted to melee for me to recommend to newbies. Yeah fair, that is a huge positive about daemons, plus they can be added to any other chaos list that you might be interested in building later down the line. Thanks for watching and subbing! Glad you liked!

Get out of the way of the tier list...

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

Ahaha yeah my bad, this was the first video I edited. Probably could’ve done a better job with showing the list and show less of myself.

@redrumssam5888

3 ай бұрын

​@NewbHammer40K live and learn 🦉

@TheChuckTV

3 ай бұрын

Maybe try being a tad more respectful with your comments… I think the dude did a pretty good job with editing and how he set up the video. You can see the tier list, as he’s explaining which tier the faction is in, he EXPLAINS WHICH TIER THE FACTION IS IN?! You’re here to hear what this man’s opinion is, and his personality - and most of all, it’s his video, he can edit this however he wants. NOTE TO THE CREATOR: just to spite this guy, make your next video just your face. 😌 Regards, A KZread Creator. - Chuck

@ohyea456

3 ай бұрын

@@TheChuckTV I had written a couple paragraphs explaining how he's doing a much better job than you, but decided you don't deserve to learn. Hell, you would probably disregard it anyways because of the way you talk to people so why bother? The point however is that I think he's doing a fine job with criticism. He should not become a spiteful person and talk down to his viewers, like you. I didn't insult him. I was blunt. He took it as a mature individual and didn't let it bother him and possibly took it as advice to improve his content. That's how to handle comments. You, however, suck. You lost a potential viewer for your

@willgoss9756

3 ай бұрын

​@@TheChuckTV it was respectful and constructive criticism. Get off your soapbox

At first I didn’t wanna subscribe because you had 69 subs… nice… But I had to sub because you’re doing an incredible job! I wish you luck on becoming a KZreadr! You’ve got this 👍

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

Ahahah appreciate it! Thanks a lot! I checked out your channel, it’s cool stuff, I subbed myself. Thanks for backing me up in comments earlier lol

Custodes are definitely not made for beginners. This is a massive mistake that people make with them trying to tell beginners to create a Custodes army as their first. Custodes require a vast amount of game knowledge of every other army to make them work. Beginners should start with a medium-sized army like Tau, Grey Knights, or Astartes. Necrons are also far too complicated due to the horde and synergy aspects that they have which can make things complicated due to having to remember a lot of rules. Grey Knights are by far one of the simplest armies to learn in 40K because of the stream-lined nature in which they play as they have certain buffs for certain situations of which is very easy to remember as each unit does a different thing so there's no confusion as to what unit does what.

I’m glad to hear that necron’s are beginner friendly.

I started with Blood Angels and now I play Death Guard. I love being a Death Guard player, but Blood Angels was a good starter army.

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

Very good picks, I love how strongly themed both of those armies are. Plus I think the nurgle daemons are the coolest looking models out of the whole chaos line.

@jackcharlie9322

3 ай бұрын

I’m possibly gay for nurgle 😳🗿

Pick up a generic space marine army, paint them as Deathwatch, play them as Alpha Legion.

i started with dark angels last year as my forst army. they are amazing as a first pick. you have three distinct colour schemes with raven, death and greenwint and lots of awesome unique minis. also you can play them like standard space marines which is great for a beginner

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

I agree! Seems like the most unique of all the space marine chapters

Wow, I genuinely suprised with placement of Drukhari 😅

As a Guard player, I do have to disagree. Get three combat patrol boxes and you are sorted. A leman russ or two or a rogal dorn and you can pack a punch they are super easy to play and understand the basics of them and when you are confident enough/remember adding the orders as well really makes them really fun. Painting them is great as well as you can choose whatever colour scheme you want. If you wanna play Krieg you do need to buy the combat patrols which is annoying but they are definitely not a tough choice

Which army would be good for me if I’m trying to avoid have swarms or 3x 10 man blocks? I don’t want to be building/painting a ton of small models. My friend and I are also escalating.

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

If you want a more elite army, space marines are a good choice. Any of the sub factions would be good, just maybe don’t pick imperial fists or white scars because yellow and white are the most difficult colors to paint. Grey Knights are even more elite. Custodes too. But they you get to the issue of each time something dies, it’s a good chunk of your army. My recs would be based on whether you’re interested in imperium, chaos or xenos. Imperium: Space marines (dark angles, ultramarines, blood angels). Chaos: Death guard Xenos: Tau or Aeldari Good luck!

I picked the Tyranids cuz i think they look the coolest. Since i was a kid i remember drooling over them. I also really like Tau, necrons and chaos deamons, but nids first

I play 3 armies and that’s GSC Adeptus mechanicus and necrons

As somebody who’s newly into 40K and fell in love with my Adepta Sororitas. Here I am nearly 2 months later still afraid to paint them my custom paint scheme that I bought all the paints for 😅😅

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

Ahahah I totally know that feeling. Commit to it on the least important model you can. A simple infantry model is a good example, that way your first try mistakes will blend in with the rest of The squad. Good luck!

as always with tier list there should be a text list under each tier so we can read it and not have to watch the entire video to see where things lie and check out our faction

Loved the Astra Mil summary, "they're just people". This is also why I like Black Legion as while on Cadia they were obv diametrically opposed, the only real difference is that Astra Mil are ignorant to the larger evils perpetrated by the imperium war machine as well as the evils of deep space whereas the Black Legion have been opened to these evils and have become twisted by these truths. It makes for such an awesome conflict where there are no bad people, just people taken advantage of by larger powers. Just makes for such compelling storytelling. Love hating the Black Legion. awesome vid

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

I like what you said about “no bad people”. The guard more than any other faction do feel like they are being tricked into fighting and have nothing to gain from it

I'm still considerably new to 40k, so I started with the easy poster boys (ultramarine). I am finding that there is so much to choose from that my 875 points so far are so diverse I don't think I can win a game 😂

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

Ahaha yeah that’s a bit of a problem with them. You got a lot of stuff going on choose from to fill out the rest of your list. Ultramarines can be pretty nasty with some simple stuff like assault intercessors and lieutenants though, using all their movement and fallback shenanigans.

The basic marines for Thousand Sons are Rubric Marines. I'm a returning player from late 5th/beginning of 6th edition and Tau was an interesting army to start as they weren't good in 5th, but skyrocketed into power when 6th edition came in. Now I plan to play Thousand Sons after I play some games from the Eldlitch Omens set since my Brother wanted to play Aeldari. Great to see both are okay starting points, for me Thousands Sons shouldn't be a problem so it would be in the "Good time with playing this faction" tier. Kinda surprised you don't find their lore interesting, I guess it's a to each of their own, but I still respect you being unbiased when it comes to ranking these factions for newer and returning players.

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

Thank you! I do like the look of the thousands sons a lot, and I think magnus has cool lore. Glad you had an easy time getting into them, I just assumed newbies would struggle to paint them since they’re so detailed. Thanks for sharing!

@RvBnerd618

3 ай бұрын

@@NewbHammer40K Oh, the trims are definitely something else. Gold Primer is your friend in this case, and honestly my rule of thumb when it comes to painting their troops is to do it at Tabletop Quality first, Show quality second. They do make a good practice for when you get to special named characters and Warlords. Also Emperor TTS makes me like Magnus more, so of course I'd field someone like him lol.

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

Smart with the gold primer, that way you just ignore the trim lol i like it. Lol they do him justice on TTS that's a great one @@RvBnerd618

I think GK are probably one of the harder armys for beginners to use RN. Their teleportation playstyle requires a lot of planning and knowledge of target priority to execute well and most of our models are kinda subpar with oher factions, you need to really learn to outthink your enemy to make the most of them.

Just bought some black legion marines as a beginner

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

Nice! They’re a cool faction forsure. good luck with the trim, take your time it’ll be worth it.

Please update this, I’m wondering where you would rank Emperor’s Children… oh wait… never mind

Starting with necrons as I was gifted them

@NewbHammer40K

26 күн бұрын

Very nice gift!

excuse me, i'm a new player and i'm building ynnari, and i'm having a blast because i get to take my favorite goodies from both aeldari and drukhari, and there's also a ton of cool characters. my main "newbie" regret is that i chose iyanden as my color scheme for my craftworld guys, because i didn't fully understand how tedious painting that much yellow was going to be lmao. but they look awesome when i finish each model so i'm sticking with it!

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

Ahaha I actually think the idea of the ynnari is super cool, they just never got their feet off the ground enough to feel like their own faction and feel more like a special rule where you can combine armies. I made the same mistake when I went to paint my first admech army all white and red. Many coats have been laid on my path to finishing that army

Most guard models aside from Cadians have been completely discontinued. Catachan and Death Corps are the other two currently available models and have MSRP setting their models at less than 1 point per dollar. Guard ain't cheap.

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

Rip vostroyan firstborn, you always had the best hats. It’s disappointing they choose to get rid of those different regiments, I like a lot of the themes behind them.

And what are you on about, Aeldar and Chaos Marines have been getting loads of new stuff. The only old model in the CSM Combat Patrol is the Helbrute and his from 6th ed, the rest is new. Also if you don't like the Black Legion look you can always raid the Horus Herasy line for alternatives.

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

Yeah that’s true, I think I was mostly thinking about vehicles since their infantry look pretty good. When I think of a full 2000 point csm army it comes along with a couple rhinos from 20 years ago lol

Aeldari shouldn't score lower because they look old, they really don't, except for a few aspect warriors, but for the reason they are really punishing to play if you don't know what you are doing.

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

Yeah fair, I was just sharing what turned me away from them when I was first looking at armies.

@hmark3665

3 ай бұрын

Considering the number of armies in this game it's alot to go through. Great Ide for a video though and I'm sure many will find it useful.l

Well this video didn't age well as the Dark Angeles Combat Patrol just got a honest down grade. Not hating the new one just it's hard to beat getting a Dreadnought.

@t4washere384

3 ай бұрын

Also a Gravis Captain without any unit to got with? What were they thinking?! A 8th ed throw back?

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

Ahah yeah true, i recorded this before they announced that new combat patrol. Pretty disappointing downgrade, hopefully some people can still find the old one at some game stores or online. I was also really surprised when I saw that Gravis captain in there with nothing to lead. I thought maybe they’d make a special rule where he can lead the bladeguard veterans, since it’s combat patrol and they can tweak their rules a little bit. Weird choice forsure

It all depends: Do you want afordable army or do you want army, that is easy to play ? Afordable right now are Tyranids, for example (thanks to Leviathan box), but its not realy faction for new players, as its hard to play. Astra Militarum is easy to play and if you want, you can field just 5 tanks into 1000pts army and be competitive. It wont win you tournament, but thats not for new players anyway. Ultramarines (Or space marines in general, not special chapter) area not that hard to play and as being poster boys of WH40k they quite cheap. but MOST IMPORTANT RULE: Go for the army you like by lore or view or by units. It does not matter, that Adeptus Mechanicus are f terrible, if you like technomancer look, go for it.For a friendly games its always good. Building own army and creating connection with it, thats 75% of whole warhammer gaming. Also, if I should suggest bes beginner army, it would be Grey Knights

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

Yeah good point. You definitely shouldn’t pick an army based on its competitive strength, that changes quite often and you’re gonna have this army for the foreseeable future. Rule of cool always wins out👍

Sisters player here - I'd rate them in between Should Be Ok and Tough Choice. They're VERY expensive, somewhat tough to play, and more difficult to paint than you mentioned.

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

Interesting thanks for sharing! I hadn’t thought about it before but I assume their infantry models are probably pretty small and detailed

@theblackantonio

3 ай бұрын

@@NewbHammer40K they are, in fact, the 2nd most difficult Imperium faction to paint (okay Imperium is 90% space marines but still). You are correct in that they have a lot of detail - and they also have a lot of faces.

Started with T’au I highly recommend not starting with them, especially if you are learning the whole game brand new like I was. Please don’t start with Tau unless you are super excited about their lord or painting them. Playing them effectively is hard and their skill cowling is quite high. Swapped to necrons after a few months enjoy them much more. Not touch Tau until the codex comes out.

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

Tau models look awesome but it does seem like you have to want that kinda play style to get the most out of them. Glad you’re liking necrons! They’re Codex was solid, I might dust mine off and use that destroyer detachment.

I got into warhammer because of drukhari and the only big complaint I will give the new player experience for drukhari are A) they are difficult to pilot as beginners because they are very very frail and can die from being looked at funny, B) They are covered in spikey bits so they look cool but there is a good chance they will draw blood while being assembled and can have things break or bend easily. C) GW likes to ignore us so dont expect new toys like ever but as a new player that shouldnt be a problem too much but most of our range is a decade or older.

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

Those spikes make up for it! lol always thought they were cool thanks for sharing!

Tau right now don't have the best price to points ratio and not the best patrol boxes so collecting them is quite pricy. And orks are surprisingly hard to paint with all the details, different materials, parts, rags and random stuff on the model, surrounded by ork skin. Other than that a pretty informative video!

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

I’ve just started painting up some Ork Kommandos and yeah wow. Those are some detailed models

As an Eldar player, yeah GW taking their sweet time giving us new models and good novels

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

They take their sweet time making stuff for anyone outside the imperium

I’d disagree a little touch on GSC because that combat patrol is so good buying 3 gives you everything you need and nearly a full army so they’re actually under £300 for 2k points

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

makes sense honestly. The GSC model line isn’t even that big either so that combat patrol seems to give you everything you would need

I love it when content creators put their giant head infront of the camera in a way that you can't see the bloody tier list

If you’re buying lots of infantry you’re playing Tau wrong. You take your minimum battle line then tons of suits

I think Custodes are a trap if you are brand new to the game. Few models to pain/assemble/buy, sure. Mostly single phase, sure. But it is a skew army, which has a very low allowance of mistakes (on this level -a- mistake can lose you around 400 points of models, one fifth of your army even) once you get to a higher level (aka no longer a beginner), which is a transition I saw many fail to make. Once everyone knows what they are doing, the high lethality for shooting, coupled with low number of models and being rather CP starved means that in order to consistently win games (and not just in the faceroll matchups) you will need to develop an idiot-savant esque undertanding of the rules, focusing on threat assessment (and understanding your own expected output), lot of positioning and a very well thought out secondary plan. This is coupled with a high-variance army meaning it is more likely than usual for luck to significantly swing games. I agree with most of the rest though. But I strongly feel that this is just something people keep repeating a lot without thinking too much about it. For example, and don't think this personally, but in this video apart from the "good deal" it is not exactly explained -why- this would be a good army for a beginner to *learn warhammer* (as that is ultimately what a good beginner army is). What I outlined above *are* all useful skills, but this army really thinks differently about them than others. Really do contrast it with Necrons or Spess Muhreens. Those are nice, rounded out armies which can do a lot of different things, and have a wider range of units. Number of models and price point shouldn't be such a hyperfocus in my book, if we talk about what is truly good for a new player.

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

Some other people have also pointed this out. I think it’s a good point but from the few beginners that I have met, they really do put number of models to paint and price above game play. They trust that they’ll learn the rules eventually but to get into the hobbying side of things they want it to be simplified. If I met someone who already had experience with model making and just wanted a rec for an army that they could learn the game with, I probably wouldn’t recommend custodes. Good point though and thanks for sharing!

I would differ with the take on genstealers. I know you mentioned how good the combat patrol is, but it is really good enough to be in great place to start. 3 of them will get you around 1980 pts, which is a feature not other combat patrol can do, specially with a variety of units where all of them are playable and important and not have something weird as 3 rhinos for example, as they also come with variants for the truck and the acolytes. but even 30 acolytes and 3 rockgrinders are very solid, without even mentioning that each truck has models that you can kitbash into almost all of the characters.

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

Super fair point, I didn’t really consider how many points three of those combat patrols would get you. Thanks for sharing!

Started with gifted space wolves, began a salamander chapter, and began collecting some cheap ad mech. Looking back i shouldnt have started the ad mech.

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

Very cool! I’m working on my salamanders right now. Plan on getting my infernus marines to hop out of repulsors and do some silly damage with the firestorm assault detachment. Even cheap ad mech is too much ad mech lol. I love the look of them when they’re done right but they are a pain to paint a pain to play.

@phillipbritton3836

3 ай бұрын

@@NewbHammer40K maybe some battle strategies could be some video ideas. Keep it up!

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

I like it, thanks for the rec! I guess that means I'd need to get my win rate up *gulp* @@phillipbritton3836

I do slightly disagree with tsons, they are arguably one of the most conplicated armies to play for a newbie, bearing in mind they really change how the core rules of the game is played. Also painting that ampunt of hols trim does become tiresome. Aside from that yhey are a really fun army to play!

Dark angels player here. I just wish that the lion was good man

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

Yeah last edition he seemed a lot stronger. At least he’s looking pretty on your shelf

As a genestealer player don't lie to me gw hates us .

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

Ahahaha you guys do seem to get forgotten about a little more often than usual, true.

Sororitas easy to pain if you go OMW color scheme?!?!?!?! Am I doing something wrong? It takes me 2 to 3 days of work for each battle sister!!! Even the smallest unit has so many details!

Thousand Sons should be okay for BEGINNERS? What is he smoking? A beginner will get stomped as 1Ksons. They are hard to build a proper list with and to pilot. Experienced players lose sleep figuring out cabal point ratios.

move your head so we can see the graph?

1KSons HYpe Hype

Oh, and I hope the fact that White Dwarf magazine has been coming out with new Combat Patrols will help the non-factions get in on the action.

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

It would be sick to see something like a harlequins or a krieg specific combat patrol in an upcoming white dwarf. People would love that I think

Bro! Iron Warrior Chaos Marines have great support, I don't know what you're talking about. Horus Heresy Marines have all your stand-ins covered! XD

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

Ahahaha for the kit bashers out there chaos space marines can look perfect. I haven’t really looked into Horus heresy much yet, guess I haven’t needed to. Might check those out tho I do love some metal devils.

None of them. Especially in 10th edition.

custodes get shoved in the beginners section of every video like this and i gotta say i disagree. main reason being, when so many of your points are condensed into a few bricks of infantry, you feel every mistake big time. From a hobbying perspective, sure easy S tier beginner army. But on the table i think they can be a bit unforgiving and are certainly hard to just play on the fly and react to whatever the board state is.

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

That’s a good point. I think I focused a lot on getting into the hobbying more than learning the game. To a beginner, learning the game and factions rules is going to be a huge hurdle kinda regardless of what they choose. But you’re right, I could see people starting with custodes and struggling to pilot them.

@mocrispy8160

3 ай бұрын

@@NewbHammer40K also depends on the edition. Even though they're strong they're way harder to play in 10th than 9th due to the way tactical objectives are, and how CP gain is rolled into them. I feel like custodes is now an army that wants to play fixed, but has to play tactical or is neutered by CP - unless you know exactly wtf you are doing.

Aside from tyranids being cheap at the moment GW hates nids period. Our codex is the worst in the game playing wise they are one of the hardest factions in the game to play definitely not beginner friendly play wise. Paint wise definitely though.

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

True I don’t win with my tyranids often ahaha

If you don't mind "counts as" models, than the Thousand Sons combat patrol is the Leviathan Starter Set. 1x Exalted Termie Sorc (SM character) 1x Flying Daemon Prince (winged prime) 5x Rubrics with warpflamers (Infernus Marines) 5x Scarab Termies (Terminators) 1x Mutalith Vortex Beast (Psychophage) 2x Chaos Spawn (Von Ryan's Leapers). (Feel free to use the Termagents/rippers as Pink/ Blue/ Crimson Horrors if you want). All in all, a pretty good starter force.

Ultramarines gg no re

Eldar are way easier then ba

@NewbHammer40K

3 ай бұрын

The fate dice are very beginner friendly true

Dude move away from the tier list people watch these to see the opinion not have a close up of your face for 30 mins

Titans are not a faction…

Codex marines after yesterday update - they are hated by GW.