So... apparently you have to watch in 60 fps for everything to work. And even then, all your gaming on high refresh rate monitors may have given you freakishly good powers of perception.

@zayedahmed5036

8 жыл бұрын

ok

@Youcah

8 жыл бұрын

+Veritasium ummm... I'm playing it @60fps, looking at the red square, the flash happened how you explained.. but.. replaying and following the circle has the flash happening around 7-8 o'clock.

@luckyluck5908

8 жыл бұрын

+Veritasium Just wanted to comment that. Thank you :)

@zayedahmed5036

8 жыл бұрын

+Outcider ok

@Ancros

8 жыл бұрын

+Veritasium So... I'm seeing black in the top half and the flash at the bottom half... Not sure why this is happening. 60fps 144hz monitor.

This makes me think about listening to music when I don't really know the lyrics and I can sing along in my head but not out loud.

@lowkeyotaku2373

3 жыл бұрын

I literally thought I was the only one , humans aren't so unique after all.

@tommyjaybrownson725

3 жыл бұрын

Actually if you're well trained and know a lot of song lyrics (and can see the person's face, that's always helpful) you can kinda get away with this for backup vocals in a pinch.. I think part of it is just the patterns in language, so that you would guess a lot of the words in 'realtime' (if there is such a thing).

@adsdasd5094

2 жыл бұрын

the song is called firefly in a fairytail

@weirdkid5309

2 жыл бұрын

@@lowkeyotaku2373 human brain knows consciousness thoughts 19sec before consciousness actually thought.

@kingdavid8657

2 жыл бұрын

Yea I thought I was the only one. I remember as a kid thinking I know everything everyone is about to say like a split second before they say it.

When designing software, a general rule of thumb is that any response under 0.1s is perceived as instantaneous; anything longer is perceived by the user as there being a delay. So for example if you have a button that does some calculation and then displays a result, if the calculation is faster than 0.1s you don't need any additional considerations and can just put up the result whenever it's done, and the user will see it as being instant; if it takes longer than that, then displaying a loading/working mark, changing/disabling the button or some other method is required, otherwise the user is likely to press the button again, or at least be confused why there is no response.

I'm so used to my computer lagging, when it doesn't lag I freak out

Anyone else who did not see the flash at 4:00?

@Mari-Yama

8 жыл бұрын

+Kevin Cook I went back to it a few times and when he originally showed the green circle going around, I didn't see anything at all. When he showed it other times after that, I saw it. Weird.

@tro7e

8 жыл бұрын

+Kevin Cook 30 vs 60 fps difference.

@ScubaSteve0224

8 жыл бұрын

+Mariko same here

@cyrussinger7135

6 жыл бұрын

I didn't see it eather.

@sf7620

6 жыл бұрын

I did not even happen

I didnt see a flash at all...

@xkromas

8 жыл бұрын

+Nelson Mandela I didn't as well since I'm on 3g and have to watch it in 144p =D

@sirloinofice

8 жыл бұрын

oh my god. how is Nelson Mandela still alive? lol

@johnshearer8800

8 жыл бұрын

+Nelson Mandela I've seen issues like this with KZread before. I also did not see the flash when the video was set to 1080p. After changing it to 720, I could see the flash. Try that, see if it works. Also, try maximizing the video or going to full screen.

@aleksandarkatic2621

8 жыл бұрын

me2

@93DavidJ

8 жыл бұрын

+Nelson Mandela it's because you weren't watching in 60fps mode.

4:00 Veritasium: "Remember where the flash occurs.." Me watching 144p: "Wha-"

@kennarajora6532

3 жыл бұрын

even at 480p it doesn't work.

@afrozkhan2094

3 жыл бұрын

@@kennarajora6532 True lol

@golbarde4347

3 жыл бұрын

Me watching 2x speed:

@jesaljoseph9612

3 жыл бұрын

@@golbarde4347 you watch these videos in 2× speed🤐🤐. I can't understand this guy most of the time even in the normal speed😬😬

@golbarde4347

3 жыл бұрын

@@jesaljoseph9612 Practice makes perfect

Just want to say thank you for providing such engaging, insightful and rich content. Just discovered your channel, and I am yet to view one of your videos that I did not like. I appreciate them all. Keep up the quality work, and the integrity of the content.

yup...after Vsauce...Veritasium is my newly found LOVE :)

@0mik3mik3

8 жыл бұрын

+Prachi Patil Exactly! I just realised that I finished all the videos from Vsauce, so i switched to this, and I'm really glad I did :D

@quazar-omega

5 жыл бұрын

Prachi Patil Or is he?

@1.4142

5 жыл бұрын

rip vsauce...

@erichgonzalez6685

5 жыл бұрын

That's some Hermione's type of priorities right there. I love Vsauce but I always come here first.

@ibadalikhan1276

4 жыл бұрын

JUST check Smartereveryday Channel you will be amazed to see his videos.

while this video teach us a lot about our perception the best thing it can teach to those console peasants that 60 fps does matter.

@nicoj.8242

8 жыл бұрын

#sotrue

@chsi5420

8 жыл бұрын

+Dhiraj Gupta *SIGH* cancer

@yousifarradbro

8 жыл бұрын

Maybe this is worse for you guys. The present might be changed and the way you see the world would make you more abnormal to society. Different reactions later or earlier. Console users would be able to enjoy a movie at 23-27 fps with ease, but pc gamers might find it irritating throughout.

@sumit3195

8 жыл бұрын

+Dhiraj Gupta pc master race

@Joenasr

5 жыл бұрын

Motion blur effect man!! Sometimes we don't want it!

I remember my human physiology professor saying: "we always live in the past. We are always reacting to the past."

@splendor10

2 жыл бұрын

So we call 'Present' to Infinitesimally lagging 'Past'.

@Vyk70r

Жыл бұрын

i see the present as the time it takes the brain to proces the future and turn it into the past.

As a racecar engineer I have always been fascinated by this concept and how high intensity sports are able to reduce the lag in ones perception of time. Many people have experienced time slowing down when they have been in high intensity moments and I often find that it is when people have a good understanding of the physics of what is happening to them. The brain can then somehow increase its frame rate to absorb more information about how the event occurred. For sportspeople, like racing drivers, this experience happens in real time and often. It is when they fully understand what is going on around them and are able to process the experience faster, it allows them to achieve almost super human feats. I'd love to see you do an episode about this, hit me up next time you are in Melbourne

"Where was the ring when the flash occurred? If you're like most people, your 20fps 480p video will probably have hindered your ability to spot the flash at all"

@danielknoblauch7959

8 жыл бұрын

+Andrew Ding I re-winded it like 8 times.

@cbernier3

6 жыл бұрын

This video goes all the way up to 1080p60

@adeshpoz1167

6 жыл бұрын

Lol... I watched it in 360p 😂😂😂😂😂😂 didn't see the flash at first and have to review it at 720p60. That was crazy! I wonder if I have missed anything else as I watch all videos in 360p

@Whatnoww

5 жыл бұрын

It's 30fps.

@pianoraves

5 жыл бұрын

I'm from the far future of 2018. And I do have a mobile that can play 720 60fps

I apparently have zero tolerance because the audio lag in the beginning was irritating the crap out of me before you even mentioned it. XD

@Unbelishitable

8 жыл бұрын

+TheBlackBeltPanda Thats interesting. I didnt even notice it before he told about it.

@DNecroRT

8 жыл бұрын

Same lol

“Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That is why it is called the present”- master oogway

@RoselineJerryA

4 жыл бұрын

do u kno de oogWEY

@thomaszhang5437

3 жыл бұрын

"present quotes"

@crewrangergaming9582

3 жыл бұрын

cringe

@jaideepshekhar4621

2 жыл бұрын

@@YourCapyBro_windows95_3DPipes STFU

@Madara_Uchiha69420

2 жыл бұрын

Breh no day is gift ;-; , if someome lives in a jail he won't feel that today is a gift ;-;

This youtuber never fails to blow up my mind. No matter what video I open, my brain is already blown.

There's actually a nice demontration of your last statement in computer science. When parsing a text, and turning it into gramatically structured information (like making computer code into a program, or parsing some parts of human language into nouns and verbs and so on), it turns out only the simplest grammars can be parsed one letter at a time. The moment your grammar grows the least bit complex, you need predictive power of a portion of the local future to decide how to interpret the current symbol. You don't know if "s" starts a noun or a verb until you've read the entire word. So you need to delay that choice, and look ahead in the text, to find that future information you need. That's sort of what our brains are doing here, right? Delaying the interpretation of the present until a bit into the future where it has more info to base it on. It almost sounds self-evident we'd evolve to work like that.

@gretelrodriguez1842

4 жыл бұрын

That’s insane. So everything we’re experiencing is actually in the “past” but we get a version the brain has interpreted but seconds later.

@juanitome1327

2 жыл бұрын

That was an awesome analogy and thanks for it. Just what i needed to make sense of this phenomenon. I loved the way you expressed “you need to delay that choice and look ahead”

ohh i am very good at noticing lips out of sync, i saw it IMMEDIATELY!

@danielbyal4440

8 жыл бұрын

same

@Cijpher441

8 жыл бұрын

+Jared Reabow (Jazza) i also immediatly saw the flash in the middle in the circle

@Infaviored

8 жыл бұрын

+Jared Reabow (Jazza) You are just bad at syncing lips :)

@MathHacker42

8 жыл бұрын

+Jared Reabow (Jazza) I knew it was too, but only because that's what he was talking about.

@H0A0B123

8 жыл бұрын

+MathHacker42 why do you hate Pi, man?

My cats definitely understood causality when they decided 5am is breakfast time.

sometime back, in one of my son's schools parent teacher meeting, his teacher complained about him not attentive in social science class, always looking out of window. When we asked him about this , he said that he was watching construction worker making wall and he is wondering how the brick is made , why cement is so strong to that being in paste form , it holds the brick etc etc.... he has such so many questions. - now he is studying in engineering college and doing CS. I think your channel is for such kids who have such out of text questions and explained in such a beautiful way. keep up the good work.

@tetronym4549

2 жыл бұрын

Your comment almost made me cry. I was that kid when I was in school, but I never had KZread channels like this and my parents never knew what to do with my questions. You’re an amazing parent for feeding your kid’s curiosity and helping him grow!

Isn't this just all exactly what Vsauce said in his "You live in the past" episode?

@MiguelBurger

8 жыл бұрын

Yes

@casper7574

8 жыл бұрын

yeah veritasium is getting more and more like vsauce. only differences is that veritasium shows his sponsors in his vids

@eloycruz1148

8 жыл бұрын

+ThunderZ lol

@Charley27T

8 жыл бұрын

+Joseph X i new i saw that circle thing somewhere :D

@juanpedro19840914

8 жыл бұрын

+ThunderZ And at 7:04, he even got up from the bottom saying "hey!". It would not surprise me if one day he began his videos saying "Hey, veritasium! Derek here". Hahaha

As to who shot first, it was really easy to determine. Han shot Greedo in 1977. Greedo didn't get off a shot until 20 years later. My brain was able to see the lag with ease.

@luiscarlosqg

5 жыл бұрын

Best comment.

@TheDragonAzz

4 жыл бұрын

Holy crap, reading your comment, video ended and a star wars commercial came on.

Fantastic demonstration on the nature of our existence and how we perceive!

Veritasium: "What Exactly is the Present?" Me being facetious: It's the thing under the Christmas tree

Please do a video to explain the recent detection of gravitational waves (like so he notices)

Great video, Derek. Really fascinating topic!

@rickylovenuts7466

2 жыл бұрын

Didn't expect you here well after 5years

Absolutely mind-blowing! And I thought this was going to be another philosophical take on being mindful 😀

The specious time explanation is pretty cool! It reminds me of the uncertainty principle.

You're like a Vsauce4, i love it

@xxman26utdxx

8 жыл бұрын

No he's veritasium

@EliasBorchert

8 жыл бұрын

+xxman26utdxx he said and I quote, "like" which according to the Oxford dictionary, is, "Having the same characteristics or qualities as; similar to:"

@violentator7564

8 жыл бұрын

+dxxPacmanxxb He is like Veritasium, and I like him a lot more than Vsauce, though I love both channels.

@EliasBorchert

8 жыл бұрын

+xxman26utdxx I knew you were joking lol

@xxman26utdxx

8 жыл бұрын

Elias Borchert Yep that's why you cited a dictionary...

Reminds me of when you're observing an analog clock, looking away and then back again. The hand that tracks the seconds appears to pause for a moment longer when you first observe its position, only to return to normal a moment later. It's another great example of specious present.

Great video, love the way you put knowledge and insight to life

Thank you for answering questions that even my brightest friends think I'm weird for caring about. Like, why I saw the airbag coming at my face and retreating, and THEN felt it hit me.

I actually did notice the delay, I was watching your lip movements, and when you said it was delayed I was like AHA

@Brandi.Nicole

3 жыл бұрын

Same! I kept thinking he was having an “off day” lol 😆 My eyes did a shifting pattern to find the issue.

@simanolastname2399

3 жыл бұрын

I thought my headphones were off. My headphones keep delaying randomly and apparently this wasn't one of the times!

Who else didn't see the flash at 4:00?

@jesondag

8 жыл бұрын

+Andrew Kovnat. I didn't. I played it several times, then noticed his comment says it has to be /60p. I was watching in a small window while I skype my GF, so it had defaulted to 480/30p. I set it to 1080/60p and saw the flash.

@MDMAx

8 жыл бұрын

+jesondag "what? there was a flash?"

@meghanarao7633

8 жыл бұрын

+jesondag thank you

I would say brain predicts and follows movement very good. The white flash stays in our vision for a little longer than it actually appears. Like a short time memory. Combined you see the white slightly above the green ring. Brain is trained to keep things in the picture even if they disappear (they usually shouldn't do that). It serves us nicely in our daily routines.

This video was absolutely awesome!!!

Hi Veritasium, I write to you from Ecuador. I am thankful for your devotion. I feel that your commitment brings the discussion of science to the table of families and friends. I'd love for you to consider adding Spanish subtitles to your videos. I'd love for my little nieces and nephews to absorb information directly from you without having to wait for me to translate every word. I am sure there are many people in the world who would also benefit from that. The auto translation that KZread offers is not that great. Thanks again for your all the videos.

Damn, a veritasium and a smarter every day in one day. Today is a good day

@Dm-rm6ti

8 жыл бұрын

Waiting on that Vsauce :D

@Mercyless4good

8 жыл бұрын

+Tactical Ultimatum no filthy frank

Thanks for a great video Veritasium. I would be very interested in someone investigating what the implications of our perception happening over an interval and not an instance would be on the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mech. Does a wave function collapse in an instant or over a small period (seeing as "observation" is not instantaneous)? Does this also have implications on the energy-time uncertainty relation?

5:16 For me both times I noticed the green outline matching the white circle, leaving no black gaps. Based on this I don't think the things that happen during the delay between the flash and you perceiving it have an effect on what you actually perceive, only on your explanation of what you think you perceived if you didn't quite catch it and your mind has to fill the blanks.

We all know that Han Solo shot first!

@82TheKnocKY

8 жыл бұрын

+ifroad33 Lucas didn't

@Alex-Lay

8 жыл бұрын

+ifroad33 There's no first about it. Han shot, and Gredo died.

3:33 HAN SHOT FIRST !

@brualdasil2

8 жыл бұрын

originally yes, but in the "edits" that george lucas did after, the other guy shot first

@Madiane03

8 жыл бұрын

what about this : i.imgur.com/gsuuaNV.jpg

“Today is a gift, that’s why it’s called the present” - Master Oogway

@YourCapyBro_windows95_3DPipes

3 жыл бұрын

Gey

@ofangelsanarchists2386

3 жыл бұрын

You could attribute it to who actually said it lol

@JoseRojas-hl7sn

3 жыл бұрын

@@ofangelsanarchists2386 who?

@kimcarson4219

3 жыл бұрын

@@JoseRojas-hl7sn Probably Justin Timberlake

@jaideepshekhar4621

2 жыл бұрын

@@ofangelsanarchists2386 WHOOOO???

As a foot or hand note . . . a computer may not respond to the push of a button but rather to its release . . . You can quote me on this one ! ! ! . . . and today is a gift . . . that is why we call it the present ! ! !

Loved it! I like these kinds of videos much more than the documentary-style ones. Let the information speak for itself, you're great at it. Very entertaining and informative

I love when I learn stuff on you tube

Your explanation for the specious present reminds me of AI architectures that have temporal coherence. An input step consisting of multiple images in a short time interval around that instant. The AI needs this to make sense of video footage. Feeding the images separately one at a time will introduce flickering.

I thoroughly enjoyed this episode. Or did I enjoy it later.

am i the only one who noticed the delay on the green flash before he told us?

@nooder1927

8 жыл бұрын

I noticed it too! I also noticed the delay between video and audio in the begining.

@CdFMasterVideo

8 жыл бұрын

+PiggyHD Me too !

@harrytsang1501

8 жыл бұрын

+PiggyHD You are not alone

@questv2661

8 жыл бұрын

Harry Tsang ok

@MightyCaesar37

8 жыл бұрын

+PiggyHD I noticed it immediately as well.

#MakeKZreadGreatAgain

@PosonKuruppu

8 жыл бұрын

#makeyoutubegradeagain

@andrewkovnat

8 жыл бұрын

+MiaMIAM Omg it's spreading! GradeAUnderA is a GOD! #MakeKZreadGreatAgain

@scheerBOM

8 жыл бұрын

+MiaMIAM You mean like paying 10bucks a month for youtube because you are to stupid to install an adblocker? Thats what the fuckboi in the video wants.

@scheerBOM

8 жыл бұрын

スレイヤーケルドン uuuhhhm i was talking about veritasium not gradeaundera. and what do you mean by spam account?

@donnykarate396

8 жыл бұрын

+スレイヤーケルドン then pay for youtube red and stop proselytizing to people that are generally fed up with youtubes policies, and not the ads you've made an issue. nobody was talking about ads, not even GradeA in that way. but good for you, glad you're supporting content creators the best way you know how. (btw Patreon money goes a fair bit farther than 60%, but I'm sure you already knew that and contribute in accordance)

Another good one. Thanks buddy.

There is a guitar/music effect called "doubling" in which the original signal is sent a second time but set at a delay of milliseconds. This gives the auditory illusion of two instruments playing the same thing simultaneously but with that slight delay of human error, giving a fuller sound. Anyway it's interesting to set the delay as short as possible and play something as brief as possible or even just tap or scrape the pick on the string, and it gives you an idea of what the time gap of milliseconds feels like. I play a side scrolling racing game, one mode is drag racing essentially, and the finish time is given to three decimal points (the actual calculated time is beyond 3 decimals but the time displayed is just up to 3 decimals). You can just barely win but you can SEE and perceive that the nose of your car was ahead of the nose of their car, and then you come to see that you won by 13-thousandths of a second or something like that. So it's really amazing just how quickly you can hear and see and perceive things.

Fantastic as always! As a life-long hobby film maker and professional musician/sound designer for image (didn't mean to hand out my CV :-) ), I know these things inside out. Often a sound needs to be shifted slightly in time to appear being in sync. The natural delay of sound of course doesn't apply to telephoto shots (where people are far away): the conversation needs to be in sync and not delayed - since our eyes are not telephoto lenses. Another interesting thing happens with artificial sounds which are not short claps or clicks, but rather impacts or punches. Sometimes these need to start just a little early (not late!). Last thought: one sound might appear fully in sync when you just watch the short scene - now start the video earlier and watch in context - it might be slightly off again. Very likely expectations and brain mechanisms. Thanks for reading and thanks for another great video!

Han Solo always shoots first!

Beautifully said brotha.

One of your best, this one 💛

I noticed the audio and knew you were making a point... it's really noticable

@chuck1804

3 жыл бұрын

Tell us more, oh great noticer of things....

I've been binging on your channel. It's so informative. Thank you

Interesting concept, alot to think about, questions to ask. It's like our brains have a buffer.

Great Video! Thank you. :)

I did notice it was off

@SwagTube

8 жыл бұрын

yo

@fisher222devon

8 жыл бұрын

SwagTube Yo

@I_am_a_cat_

8 жыл бұрын

good for you ugly

@GoldenGameDev

8 жыл бұрын

+Fancy Raptor But you cant kill followers.

@ovidiudans

8 жыл бұрын

+Fancy Raptor HOW do you notice this.I can't...even if I know now.too tired maybe...

i expected that background song to play again it became veritasium's signature sound now xd

This is the best youtube channel of its kind

I adore this channel

Hmm... I see the flash inside the ring. :/

@rayenochi7729

8 жыл бұрын

because you were focused on it, at least that's my case, the experiment acquire you to look at that red point.

@Formidable1

8 жыл бұрын

no I was looking at the red point and It still was inside

@PianoMastR64

7 жыл бұрын

Change quality to 720p60 or higher.

@qloshae

7 жыл бұрын

Same, was looking at 1080p60. Could also clearly see the lag on the other test, but that most likely because of experience.

@dropj3

7 жыл бұрын

Same.. he did say _like most people_ implying that since people see the flash inside the ring i wonder why though.. can't figure it out

Still at 0:02 and I pressed thumbs up. I trust you.

Amazing video mate

Concerning the flash and the green circle, Bem Radin and Mossbridge, among few other scientist will argue that brain can feel the close future even when it's not predictible by anyway. So I keep that in mind and I will try to think about new experiment to explore that. Thanks again Veritasium for those precious things.

anyone else noticed the delay before he mentions it?

@KJ110813

7 жыл бұрын

MCAdrien9606 Yup. Thankfully it was brief and he pointed it out as intentional since I've been tweaking the kernel on my phone and who knows how long I'd have spent trying to fix it.

@gregwessendorf

7 жыл бұрын

Yes, but I edit video and audio for a living so I'm a bit more practiced at it than most folks.

@ChiefBroady

6 жыл бұрын

Yes and it was quite annoying. I am very sensitive to that kind of delay.

@karinamcconell1828

5 жыл бұрын

I did and was a bit anoyed

@jasonu3741

5 жыл бұрын

I was like... wait audio isnt this bad in 2016.... was audio this bad in 2016? and then he said it was intentional and i was like OKAY

I love counter intuitive truths that make you question the nature of reality. Great video.

Now, this was a great Veritasium episode! 💢💥

Anyone else going through a massive binge of all Derek's old videos?

An interesting idea came into my mind as I paused the video at a random moment. Perceiving the world instant by instant would make us notice all the funny and stupid faces we do as we speak, wouldn't it? :)

@MrUnit36

8 жыл бұрын

Fortunately we live in the specious present. Otherwise you would be right, which actually would be pretty strange

@BenjaminT.Minkler

3 жыл бұрын

years ago I got an early digital camara, and I was once asked if I would take some photos at a party of an older woman who was to give a talk, and to only take them as she gave her speech as everyone else watched(so all their backs were to the camara and no party goers faces in the shots) I tried and tried but could not get a good photo of her where she didn't look hideous(the host finally came up to me and asked me to stop because I was taking too many pictures and that wasn't discrete) .... to look at the woman talking she seemed perfectly fine in our 'persistent present' where perception of her was "smoothed", but frozen in one instant at a time as her jaw, mouth, and skin contorted in odd disconnected ways didn't work - I refused to give them any of the images I took, and blamed it on a camera problem(which I guess it could be) but said I'd retake an image of her if she posed still

It would be cool if I could get to the top for once :p

@coureurdebois

8 жыл бұрын

na, you had to edit your comment so you failed.

As a musician sometimes I'm recording with a little bit of lag due to the buffer size and unconsciously I start to play ahead of the beat to play on time, then when I adjust the buffer size to get rid of the lag it feels like the button-light experiment, as if sound came in before I played the notes

I am really big fun of optical perception and brain relation; i was expecting a philosophical video and i enjoyed this quite a lot.

At the end of our lives, all the years we have lived may appear to have been just one brief moment.

@asencme

8 жыл бұрын

+Physics Videos by Eugene Khutoryansky To a particle moving close to the speed of life, the whole life of humanity will appear as this flash. :D, right?

@HellGod67

8 жыл бұрын

+Asen Georgiev lol This is a life changing discovery.

@brain8484

3 жыл бұрын

No you are missing the point totally

It's videos like these that makes me wanna be able to give 10 likes through an account.

@peacefulbanana9151

8 жыл бұрын

totally agree, he' awesome and science too

@DesiPhilosophy

8 жыл бұрын

+PeacefulBanana He is among those few genuine youtubers who put their heart and soul into their videos.

I would like to perform an experiment with three configurations of the flashing circle: the first making full rotations, the next making the bouncing half rotations, and the last starting at the flash point (sans flash) and randomly moving clockwise or counter clockwise and disappearing immediately after the flash. This is because the first flashes in both cases appeared in the circle for me, while each subsequent flash appeared in either the upper or lower half as he described to be the typical perception. I personally suspect it's a mixture of predictive pseudo-vision and persistence of vision where the flash seems to linger when the circle has already moved on into the next frame.

Definitely something I need to know, when I have work in the morning.

was it just me or was there no flash in the flash lag animation???

@Skip6235

8 жыл бұрын

+harvey288 You must be watching at 60 fps. At 30 fps it gets skipped, because the flash is only 1 frame long. You can adjust the fps in the quality settings by clicking on the gear in the lower right corner of the video

@graymorality

8 жыл бұрын

+harvey288 It appears on the 60fps quality but not on lower quality

@ThreeLetters3

8 жыл бұрын

Ikw wtf

@ThreeLetters3

8 жыл бұрын

Skip6235 :(

@ThreeLetters3

8 жыл бұрын

Ikr wtf

Only Han shot. ;)

For those who did not see the flash, you need to run video in 60 fps - 720p60 or 1080p60. 30 fps skips the frame with the flash.

Yes, I did notice it and thought Well this Video is not synced before you mentioned it was really very obvious to me!!!

*Hey Derek*, Great video, very insightful. There are tho things you mentioned I do not completely agree yet: 1) The test of David Eagleman clearly Eliminate the hypothesis that our brain predicts where the green cycle would be, yet I'm not sure yet that this effect is caused by a processing delay. It can be caused by the refresh rate of the retina. we all know that when we see a flash of light, it takes few milliseconds for it to be erased from sight. So we might see the "past" white circle inside the "present" green circle. Do you have in mind any method to verify it? 2) While the specious present is a collection of sensory perceptions stretching over a tiny period of time, I think we experience them all in the present moment. That is, it takes some time for our senses and brain to process the information into a mental image, and it combines things that might have happened in various moments, but experiencing that mental image happens in the present. Tsur Taub - LucidThinking

@CorvaireWind

8 жыл бұрын

+Lucid thinking " _it takes some time for our senses and brain to process the information into a mental image, and it combines things that might have happened in various moments_ " -- You just described *specious present* in the same paragraph your attempting to disregard it as a _present moment_, they are one in the same. ;O)-

@Sschatzii

8 жыл бұрын

+Lucid thinking 1) Yeah, I also thought about persistence of vision as an explanation for this part of the video.

@Lucidthinking

8 жыл бұрын

Hey +Corvaire Wind , I know that what I wrote is not very clear. Let me try and explain it differently. Think for example of the situation when you freeze a video containing a fast movement. You would not see a clear image, but a smeared photo. This means that the photo presents an event that happened during several moments in time, yet you perceive this photo instantly. I'm definitely not saying that the specious present isn't real, I only want to refine the understanding of it. We perceive in a timeless moment (present) a construction of an event that happened in various moments. We cannot live but in the present, so all our experiences are in the present, yet they present events that took place in time. Even a still image is not really a representation of the present moment since at the moment the picture was taken the electrons of the atoms in our body made some several billion cycles around the nucleus. If we could really perceive the tiniest measure of time possible, we would probably see emptiness.

@CorvaireWind

8 жыл бұрын

femto-photography ;O)- aka _photon video_

@Lucidthinking

8 жыл бұрын

+Corvaire Wind Yea, I know this invention. Absolutely geniality :)

i was watching this on 360p and i had to rewatch the first flash test about 50 times until i read the comments

mind bending!

Yeah u mention David Eagleman who modified the ring experiment. I have read his book "The Brain The Story of You." Really awesome.

The first flash I didn't see anything, and the second time I saw it perfectly inside the circle

@Kazegalewind

8 жыл бұрын

+Ross Brennan Yeah, me too.

In the first expierement I saw circle appear where it did appear, in the second one I saw it appearing on top!!! I'M FEELING AWKWARD!

Your every vid is informative

Very well explained 🖖

I noticed immediately at the start of the video, that *something* was off, I couldn't tell what, until you mentioned it specifically though. I also think that my tolerance for video/audio sync-mismatch is shrinking the older I get, or maybe the more experience I have with better-synchronized video. When I was in my teens all the music videos I watched on MTV seemed perfectly synchronized to me. When I rewatch those videos *today* (about 15 years later), they seem to be *all* out of sync by *a lot*. the flash experiment caught me off-guard, I didn't see a flash at all at first, because I was concentrating on the red square as you said. when I watched it again, I saw the flash and it was perfectly centered (144hz monitor, 60fps video). in the second video, it was also perfectly centered. does it matter that I am wearing glasses? at least not noticing the flash could have happened because my brain is used to discard visual information from the areas my glasses won't cover (the edges of my vision).

@vinyashere4all

2 жыл бұрын

Same. I see full circles of flash both times and I'm not even wearing any glasses.

Han shot first

@pianoraves

5 жыл бұрын

I shot the sheriff.

@selforganisation

5 жыл бұрын

I was about to post the same thing!

@kennarajora6532

3 жыл бұрын

@@pianoraves But I didn't shoot no deputy.

OMG! Than you Andrew Ding, (5 years ago). I thought something was wrong with my eyes! I rewound this video a bunch of times, and could never see a flash. Then, I scoured through the comments, hoping someone else hadn't seen it...and, there you were...with an explanation. I slowed the video speed down, and saw the flash, lol! Thank you!

Mr Muller, I so love your videos. I wish that in this one you had covered the fact that there is no such thing as 'now'. All you have to do is ask the simple question: how long is 'now'? Because of the infinite nature of numbers, there can be no answer. Is 'now' a thousandth of a second? A millionth? A billionth? A billion billionth? It is like the classic problem of two objects never being able to touch. This is one of my most favorite subjects, and I think about it all the 'time'. Because time itself is an illusion. Since there is no such thing as 'now', there can be no such thing as 'time'. All that mankind has managed to do about the apparent existence of time is to get clocks all moving together, or more or less together, which is very convenient for when you want to meet somebody etc. But time is like gravity: an assumption with no basis in actual reality. What there is, is DURATION. Things continue in the same state - or give the illusion of continuing in the same state - and this gives the impression of something called 'time'. Even duration is an illusion because nothing in atomic reality ever stays exactly the same. But anyway, I believe that an extraordinary state of enlightenment is possible the moment you perceive that you cannot live 'in the moment' because the 'moment' is ever escaping into the infinity of numbers. There is something exhilarating about it, something refreshing.

I want the light space bar game

@vvhat

8 жыл бұрын

+AlfieeGaming Yes please, I want that program too.

I saw it immediately but I'm a musician. And kudos for the Star Wars reference! ;)

@Brandi.Nicole

3 жыл бұрын

Why does being a musician matter?

I believe that all this has to do with the fact that our Brains are use to ALWAYS living in the past. Our brains have adjusted to the fact that it takes a bit for light to reach our eyes from bouncing off an object, that sound has to travel to our ears from its source, signals from our brain have to travel down our nervous system to reach our extremities and vice versa. All of this has led our brains to understand that the "NOWS" of each type of input can be different and has learned to adjusted to compensate for that and allow for the discrepancies.

6:45. You can read a book letter by letter, it's just a lot harder. Same with forming memories instant by instant, but a letter contains more information than an instant, so it's even harder to make memories out of instants.