What else can MOPA Fiber Laser Engravers do? Welding, Cutting, Cleaning, Coloring, Milling, ...
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00:00 Intro
00:32 Unboxing
01:39 Setup
03:27 Z-Axis
05:14 Speed
06:19 Image engraving
08:46 High & Low Power
09:38 Colored marking
11:51 Rotary axis
13:03 Handheld mode
14:32 Modifications
16:13 Laser power
16:47 Safety
18:21 Pulse width measurement
20:24 SMT Stencil
22:13 Cu sheet cutting
22:50 Wire welding
24:08 Plastic welding
25:32 Stainless spot welding
27:04 Intermetallic welding
29:06 Cu sheet hermetic box
29:51 Cutting 2mm steel sheet
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@CraigLandsberg-lk1ep
2 ай бұрын
I missed the price of this?
"This thing is a certified chonker" in a German accent is hilarious. Keep up the great videos.
Watching your videos about these laser engravers makes me realize how fast and loose the phone repair places in the local mall are playing with their iPhone-adhesive-removal lasers. Open air kiosk in a high foot traffic area, laser machine just sitting out in the open. No opaque enclosure, no interlocks. No safety glasses for passers by (obviously 😬).
@NavinF
6 ай бұрын
That's because laser injuries are incredibly uncommon compared to mundane accidents like getting hit in the eye with physical objects. Ever seen a data center tech wearing laser safety goggles when messing with a fiber amplifier? No, for the same reason why you don't wear a helmet while driving even if it's safer to do so
@TheSingularNextuz
6 ай бұрын
@@NavinF Because u don't want a fiber straw in your eye?
@NavinF
6 ай бұрын
@@TheSingularNextuz wtf is a "fiber straw"? Communications fiber comes with cladding all around and a ferrule on the ends. You'll rarely work with bare fiber so that's not relevant
@TheSingularNextuz
6 ай бұрын
@@NavinF Yes... If they are short...
@yellowcrescent
6 ай бұрын
Most transceivers I've seen in a datacenter environment have been under about 20 mW-- assuming they use lasers at all (many low cost MMF 1G or 10G SR optics use IR LEDs instead). Multiple orders of magnitude difference between that and a 60W pulsed laser. Many techs will even try to look into the end of a LC or SC connection for light with their phone's camera (only works for 850nm)... lol
Would be neat to see a follow up making PCBs. Likely less hassles, mess and time than a PCB milling machine.
@bobweiram6321
6 ай бұрын
If setup precisely, it can create an entire PCB in minutes with solder mask.
These channels are what make KZread awesome.
This is great video! I've been using Monport Laser for several months now, and I've been amazed by its versatility. While MOPA Fiber Laser Engravers can handle a range of tasks like welding, cutting, cleaning, and coloring, Monport Laser takes it a step further. With Monport Laser, I've been able to tackle not just engraving, but also precise milling tasks with ease. Its intuitive interface and robust performance make it a standout choice for various applications. Whether you're working on intricate designs or heavy-duty projects, Monport Laser delivers exceptional results every time.
The internal pressure to buy a MOPA rises every day. Marco being the main culprit. I am super interested in seeing more tests with the lithium batteries. How long does it take to get a weld going? With welding the cells its all about limiting the heat that goes in the guts of the cell (besides not melting the insulation) so wonder how it stacks up against spot welding. This multisecond weld is definitely worse, but if it takes little time to weld a fraction, you could swap between cells while welding a larger pack. With spot welding 21700s around 30 Joules seems to be enough for a single good weld on 0.15mm nickel.
@reps
6 ай бұрын
Sorry for the pressure! Here is some more 😵💫 www.accessdata.fda.gov/cms_ia/importalert_255.html I fear these toys are too good to remain unregulated and available forever
@jamadir
6 ай бұрын
@@repshattest du Probleme mit dem deutschen Zoll?
@jamadir
6 ай бұрын
@@repshattest du Probleme mit dem deutschen Zoll?
@dylanevans5644
6 ай бұрын
I guess a big problem is ensuring every piece of nickel is clamped to the respective cell. A whole nickel strip would be much harder to hold with tiny magnets (even if you managed to avoid demagnetisation with shorter pulses). Could maybe be overcome with some type of clamp... But for safety that would have to be something you could set and then put into an enclosure.
@DooMMasteR
6 ай бұрын
Aus eigener Erfahrung, nein, selbst Laser im kW Bereich kann man unproblematisch kaufen/importieren.@@jamadir
"The whole machine costs only $500..." - YES! "...more than the 20W MOPA from the competition" - NO! I know I have to wait until hell freezes over for a machine that capable to get affordable, but I had almost 2 nanoseconds of hope there.
@dylanevans5644
6 ай бұрын
Haha. When he said that i had a similar first thought... Followed by thinking he must have misspoke as there was no way this thing is cheaper than a 40w gantry style... Then he dropped the next line. $500 would be something 😅
Ich find deine Videos einfach nur geil. Dein trockener Humor, und dann richtig gutes Zeugs was du da vorstellst, oder eben selbst baust, auseinander baust, reparierst ... Einfach echt immer schön deine Videos zu sehen. 👍
I didn't realize just how much I could use a fiber laser engraver until I watched this video. Great watch as always, Marco.
Egg plant emoji? Better luck next time? hahahaha I love your sense of humor.
i've experimented a lot with colours by the way. if you have a formula for a specific colour with a specific material (4 mm thick a2 stainless in my case) with a specific image, it will get the same colour every time. even the focus doesn't matter that much. in my expeirence, if you make a field of squares, and then try to engrave a bunch of text, the outcome will be different with identical settings and materials
"250 x 250mm area" shows "A = 250 mm^2" - normally i'd interpret this as 250 (mm^2) and not (250mm)^2 - the real area is 62500 square mm (mm^2)
Christmas came early, we have a video!
This machine is much more impressive than I expected going into this video. Thanks for an interesting video as always! Just finished the Verdi repair video and now my brain is on Laser mode for the next few days.
What a machine! I was lusting over it the whole time. Eventually, I'll be able to justify getting one of these...then building a safe enclosure for sure. ;)
4:15 Marco nooo, you forgot the parentheses, now all the pedantic people like me are going to comment about it!
@reps
6 ай бұрын
ooo how embarrassing
Thank you for sharing. You are right, not many details on settings on the internet as of yet. Every little bit helps save material for testing.
Outstanding ❤
omg the macrochip is so good i am going to make one myself
Finally new video
I died at 17:44 🤣
What an amazing bit of kit, I wish I could justify owning one! Oh, and I hope the Florks helped, usually they just want to put ERA blocks on everything.
Wow that's a pretty awesome machine Make Your own bga stencils Can't get any better than that
Awesome stuff !! I work with these machines every day, and the amount you have figured out (and quite quickly, I'd add) is awesome to see!! Keep up the awesome work. If you have any questions about these systems or parameters, feel free to give me a shout.
@zmakes
6 ай бұрын
Another fun thing to try is running your 60w with offset fills, roughly: 750mms 60khz 24% (depending on lens size) 200ns 0.03 line spacing (assuming a f160 110mm lens) Adjust power as needed. The desired finish is a light frost, so this is basically a glorified cleaning pass with most of the work being done by the offset fill path. This should work on most metals. Try to start with material that is smooth and clean if you can. You can do some pretty fun optical illusions.
I’m subscribing just to hear you narrate. That being said my MOPA 60W arrives any day now. Love this channel. Looking forward to some settings
The color engraving blows my fucking mind
Just wow!
Awesome! I had to tune one of those machines, and took a freedom to play with it: had a great time decapsulating random microchips on scrap PCBs. And thanks for the Florks, we love them here in Ukraine)
I really like that you can take it off, it has that add on cone thing and then use it as a rust remover or for metal reconditioning, or move the laser to the work instead of bringing the work to the laser. This is like a low powered version of one of those handheld fiber/IR lasers, I've half been thinking about buying/automating one of those as a side project just to see if I can- That's a really nice bonus feature! Great Video :D Love that flexible exhaust setup, I hadn't even thought of something like that- I'm sure I'll be making use of something like this in the future, just not sure exactly how yet. I learned something today so that means today is a win.
Handheld lasers are used every day in tire plants to engrave barcodes on tires.
Nice one!
So cool at around 23.30 i caught myself actually making "Ooooo Aaah and Wow" noises
very cool
Since it melts metal... How long before you turn it into a metal powder 3d printer?
@reps
6 ай бұрын
would love to try but I think these metal powders also need an inert gas atmosphere
Yes - don't care what the question is, when it comes to lasers, "yes"!
would love to see you build an enclosure for this!
nice guitar pedal engraver you got there :)
@DisabledEngineer As a disabled Marine Corps combat veteran, hobbyist-inventor/tinkerer, and general engineering enthusiast, this is very inspirational to watch. My disability is not visible, so I don't have the same issues as you, but I understand your struggles. I have oftentimes considered an exoskeleton design over the past 3 decades. If I may offer two ideas 💡 for your consideration:1) Consider all possible modalities of kinetic machines and their dynamic pros & cons. If you could find or build a small Hydraulic pump paired with some Hydraulic actuator/s and work out the specific kinematics for your use case, well you can't bet the power. 2) Electric linear actuators will also produce much more mechanical force. (Though they are often too slow, so you will have to pay close attention to sourcing an appropriate motor and gear train.)
muy interesante!
why is there an FDA label on the box??? can it engrave various fruits and vegetables?
@newmonengineering
4 ай бұрын
Some countries scan packages for life forms. For instance going to Puerto Rico they scan with special xray machines designed to look for food, insects, animals etc. Part of it is to protect wild life species from accident import of invasive species. Part is to ensure banned goods don't enter or exit. Every trip I take to PR gets an FDA sticker attached.
In my company we weld these sealed through-connectors or other (stainless) steel parts with normal 60/40 tin solder after wetting the contacts with conc. phosphoric acid. Wear safety goggles, gloves and do it with forced ventilation.
13:56 RIP Netzhaut
My god im jealous :O
Hello Marco, I see something very interesting at 3:13 an the microscope display. I have been watching you for a few years now and I really like your videos.
@brenj
5 ай бұрын
Unintentional Face reveal
Time for real questions: can it outperform direct-laminate PCB printer and previous laser engraver in PCB manufacturing :>
@reps
6 ай бұрын
I have actually invested quite a few hours into finding out, but no result yet. Theoretically this guy could achieve a 1µm spot size and certainly remove copper much faster than FeCl3. What's problematic are thermal delamination of small features and overexposed edges. The former could be avoided by slowing the whole process down and the latter needs different time constants or a kind of ramp mode. Will report if I find out more
@askjacob
6 ай бұрын
@@reps I guess some of the magic would be finding the best follow up pass to remove any carbonisation from the glue and laminate as well? From what I have seen from other people trying, this can be an issue...
@alexbv475
5 ай бұрын
I gave this a quick try and struggled not to burn the plastic pcb board (Granted I didn't try that long to get it working, and I was using fr1 instead of fr4 because that's what I had on hand.) Search "fibercuit" on youtube for an example of making a flexible pcb from a copper sheet and kapton tape using a 1065nm laser
What does MOPA stand for? Mother of penetrating apparatus. For sure, it'll penetrate into surface of anything.
@markkrutzmann6862
6 ай бұрын
Master oscillator power amplifier. It means the machine has total control over its pump lasers and can thereby influence the actual laser beam of the fiber laser very precisely. There is a bit more physics involved but that's my understanding as a layman.
What a fun expensive toy! I might have to get a job so I can buy one.
Oh, how about tattooing!! Haha
...you figure you could weld copper tabs to lithium cells with this particular machine?
Shoutout to the Blackhole pew-pew SFX. :)
I wonder if you can do scratch-holograms with that.
@reps
6 ай бұрын
interesting thought! might need an additional x-y motion table 🤔
@KallePihlajasaari
6 ай бұрын
I have been pondering the use of a cheap IR laser onto black perspex or other suitable material that will make a smooth semicircular bottom groove. Making a special machine that has an end effector with angle and radius axis attached to the end of a positioning stage might make the highest quality scratch holograms. Instead of a laser using an preloaded air bearing and marking with a tungsten carbide or sapphire sphere on a spring loaded pin that is pressed into the plastic substrate with a micrometer Z axis would provide dainty lead in and out to give better line fade.
@JensChristianRestemeier
6 ай бұрын
@@KallePihlajasaari There is a Steve Mould video about handmade holograms, in it he mentioned that someone is solving the groove positions from a Blender 3D model and then cutting it with a CNC machine - so it is definitely possible. The question is if a laser etch will produce an appropriate grove to reflect the light appropriately for the effect.
@theperfectshuffle
3 ай бұрын
This guy lasers holograms kzread.info/dash/bejne/hYGF1ZNwiMW_pbQ.htmlsi=6l2hqdd_YN2Reb5k
For the thick steel sheet you could have used the laser to only mark or 'center punch' the round holes, and drill them out on a drill press or by hand later.
@Larsema1
6 ай бұрын
Then the machine might have to wait for the first square hole to cool down before each round. But if there is a lot of holes it should be faster to mark and drill the round holes.. but not as exact.. or fun :D
Have no expertise in laser-oxidising stainless for coloured engravings, but wondering if it's possible to derive the settings semi-automatically with a known test field and a high colour-accuracy camera? There'd still be small variations within the material ofc, but if there is a known relationship between laser 'strength', oxide thickness/texture, and resultant colour, then would an automatic calibration routine be possible? Save time and material, I'd think, but maybe there's too many variables involved to be practical.
If using lightburn, use "Wobble" when cutting steel. I have a 60w mopa and cutting 4mm steel with no problem.
I didnt know there was a machine specificly for marking com .
That’s amazing that you can cut 2mm steel! I’d wondered if these small MOPA lasers could handle that. I see that Comgrow also makes a 100 watt model; I wonder how much more capable that would be without an air assist? Here’s a (kinda dicey) thought: What about not an air assist but a slowly-flowing oxygen atmosphere? It’d likely be pretty dramatic, but I wonder if burning the metal bits as they come out would help? (Or would it just more rapidly clog the throat of the cut with iron oxide?)
@reps
6 ай бұрын
I also remember seeing an industrial machine that combined aquajet with laser cutter - their beam being conducted inside the water stream
@DaveEtchells
6 ай бұрын
@@reps Oh, that's very interesting! I know that water absorbs IR, but maybe not at this wavelength, and/or not enough to matter over such a small distance. Very intriguing! Hmm, let's see; a dichroic-coated entry port for the laser... 🙂
@simonwirz8886
6 ай бұрын
@@reps It's called Laser MicroJet by Synova (combination of a waterjet and a laser)
Great video. What safety googles are you using in SMT Stencil portion of your video?
3:06 Marco Reps face reveal!!!!!
9:00 The Blue Pill MCU! Though, I prefer the F103CB variant, with its 128k of flash memory. I mostly don't need the extra 64k, but better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.
Can you do LIBS with? Creating a repeatable plasma seems to be easy with it, but capturing the plasma with sufficient temporal resolution could be difficult. You need to start capturing only after the the plasma has cooled down so most thermal radiation has decayed and breakdown spectra are dominant.
Where do you buy materials for engraving?
Dislike youtubers that destroy stuff that are they given. Hate these teardown video
@Marco Reps: is the broken Laser still available?
I've got some spare money. Should I get the comMarker or the comMaker?
29:35 You missed the opportunity of doing laser soldering. Place a small ring of solder around the connector and fire the laser. Perfect soldering and no mess.
Jetzt brauchst noch ein laserkonfokalmikroskop um die ablationseigenschaften zu vermessen 😂
@reps
6 ай бұрын
Ist das nicht vorwiegend für biologische Materialien? Ein SEM wäre hier hilfreich 😏
@faxezu
6 ай бұрын
@@repsEs gibt auch Konfokalmikroskope für metallurgische Anwendungen, z.B. vom Hersteller nano Focus. Selbst schon genutzt um die Rauigkeit von Metallen nach verschiedenen Polituren zu messen. Ein REM wäre natürlich auch sehr lecker oder sogar AFM wobei das wahrscheinlich übertrieben ist.
@reps
6 ай бұрын
@@faxezu Really? Interessant! Dear Santa, ... 😁
why people use 250mm^2 to say 250*250mm field? even saw 120mm^3 to represent cube of 120*120*120 volume. isn't that technically incorrect?
I am a watchmaker and i crave a jewelry laser but its 12k it must be possible to adapt on of these chinesium machines. I mostly weld silver without coloring mit nem edding;) then it works but you need the highest power jewelry’s laser. 60w could be enough. Love to get you input.
wondering what overlap and exclusive applications this 60w version compares or not to the iKier K1 Pro Max: 48W (which is about 1/3rd the price). clearly the applications are a bit different. but what can be done on those other gantry style ones (presumably they are diode ones instead of a fibre laser?)
@reps
6 ай бұрын
blue CW diode machines can remove coatings and anodizing from metals, but can't really engrave bare metals
if you were to say upgrade the z axis with a good servo, could you effectively run this as a 2.5d?
crazy shit!!!! now, i want to have a laser!!!!!
looks like everything is leading to Zaxis movement and sitering your own metal parts
Which machine is better to do name in gold or silver jewelry pendant ?
I just came here to hear marcos say kooooohlah!
Were those laser sounds from the Disney movie "Black Hole"?
4:39 he says „250 by 250 mm working area“, on screen: 250mm^2. I think that should be 250^2 mm^2.
32:05 have you tried static electricity as a way to clear the channels? A bit like electrostatic precipitators, exept you don't need a grid to electricaly charge the dust, you just apply a tension to the metal. i wonder if a sufficient electric feild would get the hot particule going to an electrode, thus clearing the high aspect ratio trench.... I hope you don't need several thousand volts for that though.... Shower thoughts...
How long till someone uses one of these on their Cybertruck???
Hehe, got another question for you. Did you already have a dustbin fire?😉😁
idk, this build quality seems pretty poor for a product in the £3000+ price bracket, I know its cheap for what it is but still, the connectors and PCB adjustments to make it neat internally would cost circa £5 at most. Also that powered axis seems wobbly as hell, most £300 3D printers have more stable axis... I didn't realise that was the price until I checked the amazon links, from the video I had clearly incorrectly assumed this was a few hundred GBP not several thousand :O
I have a 150 yag laser in the garage in need of a pump diode , anyone have one in their pocket?
PCBs for electronic boards??
2:50 Complaint 1: The crimping on the neutral is dreadful. A single wire crimp used to crimp two wires, leaving exposed conductors. Modern standards treats neutral like a live wire.
i do wounder if it would be possible to diy this guy into a slm metal powder printer? if it can melt the metal powder then the rest is easy
So this machine marking cutting and engraving metal gold silver ?
I you mentioned making a resistor standard with Nichrome wire: why not Manganin? I’d think it’s very low tempco would make it better suited.
@reps
6 ай бұрын
Both can be annealed and tweaked to fantastic performance with a bit of patience. A 5ppm/°C NiCr wire is what I have available
@DaveEtchells
6 ай бұрын
@@reps Oh, very interesting, I didn't know about changing the tempco by annealing. 5ppm as a starting point is fantastic, I had no idea NiCr got into that territory. (Wikipedia gives the typical number for manganin as +15ppm, but I now see other sources saying +/- 10ppm. I'll be very interested to hear about your experiments, I've long wanted to build my own reference resistors. (Kinda pointless in a way, my best meter is a decades-old 3457 that I've never had calibrated, and a couple of internet 5ppm voltage standards. I still like the idea of making my own reference resistors. though.) Oh hey - when are you going to build your own watt balance? Your community is waiting... 😆
If you can't weld copper wire hit it! Or to be more precise flatten the copper at weld end such as through rolling it into a strip and maybe using the edge as the connection point instead of the middle.
"Just order 500% material." Haha, I could totally understand why.
4:28 - 250mm by 250mm is not equal to 250mm2, that would be 62500mm2
B4 from before😆
Why no PCB "etching" ?
Can it do lasik?
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Förster!
Ist der Laser eigentlich geerdet , ich habe die 220v Variante mopa und da ist ein extra erdungsanschluss samt erdungskabel dabei. Dank im Voraus
How strong does the oxide layer stick to the substrate? Can you remove it by swiping your fingers over it?
@reps
6 ай бұрын
Adhesion is perfect, you'd have to grind or laze it off. I think chemical resistance might not be as good as unmodified stainless, colors might change when exposed to moisture or acidic foods, haven't tested this myself yet.
@chinaman4639
6 ай бұрын
@@reps Yeah well you could just coat it with a chemical resistive polymer or something like that to prevent further color change (coming from normal oxidation in the air)
@zmakes
6 ай бұрын
I recall a few papers showing the corrosion resistant being worse on areas with laser induced oxide growth but i think given the proper coatings you could mitigate that.
FLORKS! :)
23:58 Are those laser sounds from the movie The Black Hole?
Can this machine burn PCB designs on copper FR4 laminate?
@Krmpfpks
4 ай бұрын
Good question . I think it‘s just a question how long it would take.