Drug dealers taught me 5 minutes actually means 2 hours

@bibob9951

5 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@David-oy4ng

5 жыл бұрын

Best one I read yet.😂😂🤙

@TheDuked

5 жыл бұрын

yes :') you've gained my trust my simply string that

@brianwalendy3735

5 жыл бұрын

CPT, if you catch my drift.

@mikebarrett6375

5 жыл бұрын

Omg hahahahaha

This woman's talk reminds me of my college papers, nonsensical and in no way related to the thesis

@margaridabaldini

4 жыл бұрын

Brilliant!! 🤣

@Adam-qh8vf

4 жыл бұрын

Like most TED talks, I find

@davidallen346

4 жыл бұрын

Hate college

How Destroying People’s Lives Gave Me a Delusion of Grandeur

@Foxdiesolid

4 жыл бұрын

lmao yess

@Flawda986

4 жыл бұрын

Yup

@rot1092

4 жыл бұрын

GOLDEN COMMENT LMAO 🤣

@buckthorn7084

4 жыл бұрын

Are you talking about the lecturer or the drug dealers?

@nates.9100

4 жыл бұрын

@@buckthorn7084 what do you think

She didn't teach me a thing other than don't trust the police and watch out for them

@joshuatheseeker5069

5 жыл бұрын

They get sneaker every day but still can spot them bitches a mile off if ur smart

@tyan_ldn

4 жыл бұрын

@@msg2364 To be fair a lot of people in the comment section agree with him

@2TrainWakefield

4 жыл бұрын

Lisa Gatt you tha fed$

@susansimpson72

4 жыл бұрын

Right nothing new!

@elanahhailie9641

4 жыл бұрын

Lol she taught me to look out for anomalies with strippers and bikies to keep in check whos a snitch

All I got was that she betrayed the trust of an abused and broken woman who was down the wrong path instead of helping her.

@matthewmcclain1316

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly. :(

@rhabeldibabeldi6812

4 жыл бұрын

this

@joybreegaming8781

4 жыл бұрын

True but rember its the system that's broken but yes we need to fix this as studies have proved time and time again that its circumstance that causes this to happen. Julie sounds like a nice kind peraon that was perhaps forced into this unaware that it was bad until it was to late. Perhaps something similar happened to her, she wanted to make a difference and thought this was how. She later learned that this was not some glorious job like in the movies and that often times these people are people and that they needed help they didnt need to go to jail and then you realize that most criminals are not trying to be mean and just trying to live.

@alicelascaux7222

4 жыл бұрын

@@joybreegaming8781 amen to that.

@joybreegaming8781

4 жыл бұрын

@@alicelascaux7222 thx! i've made it a challenge to find the good in everyone and although i might not always succeed i feel like it has helped me have a more positive life

How to build trust, betray that trust, and send your friends to prison for life. Great talk.

@chrisj197438

5 жыл бұрын

Michael Deering Drug dealers destroy lives. They deserve to be executed on site.

@hb645

5 жыл бұрын

@@chrisj197438 not really people choose to use drugs

@chrisj197438

5 жыл бұрын

H B People choose to sell drugs and profit off the deaths of people.

@tictic701

5 жыл бұрын

@@chrisj197438 The Speaker is pretending to be a drug dealer, so would you execute her on site?

@treynoneya1

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that.. Saved me some time.

criminals teach her trust and she taught them betrayal hmm..

@samv2783

5 жыл бұрын

Well said.

@hamarzgar9960

5 жыл бұрын

@@msg2364 no im just saying must feel bad to be sold out like that Im not supporting criminals but you know those people have put so much trust in her and finnaly she gets them arrested good job for her but it does feel bad ..

@DimaNoizinfected

5 жыл бұрын

@@msg2364 I support self-responsibility and freedom

@DimaNoizinfected

5 жыл бұрын

I suspect world with drug dealers would be safer and more trustworthy that with undercover cops like this one. Nobody forces you to take drugs, it's your own responsibility. Of course selling drug for kids should be punished, but most of buyers are self-responsibile adults. They did their job, and deliver her what she asked for, and she did her job and putted them in prison.

@advancedpainter1014

5 жыл бұрын

@@msg2364 Drug dealers don't sell to kids. That's just an excuse that I hear people say that don't know what the f*** there talking about. These "Vulnerable" people you speak of are grown adults who make there own decisions. How are you going to hold someone else responsible for another adults decision to ingest something? Makes no sense and you have no argument.

My favorite comment section. Everyone intuitively understands what this chick is all about and it has nothing to do with trust.

@PamelaBarnum

5 жыл бұрын

Hey Pablo, I'm also enjoying it! I'd love your feedback on the talk, I'm easy to find - I use my real name, pic, and profile on KZread.

@Lola-mn9oz

5 жыл бұрын

look at me in my leather pants...arent i wonderful

Sherry was used to being abused and betrayed. That's why it didn't make her angry and she remembered the one honest thing this woman did. To me trust is way more than something you can build through good communication. Drug dealers don't really trust people, they let people in because its not a business without customers. Real trust is built through what you do, not what you say. I'm not sure if this woman really knows what trust is.

@Axterix13

5 жыл бұрын

It is trust of a sort, but yeah, not true deep trust. The things she mentions are basically the same things car salesmen (and other types, for that matter, including straight up con-men) use. If anything, knowing these sort of "trust-hacks" is more useful so you can recognize when they're being used against you, rather than using them to manipulate others.

@taylorwilhite5570

5 жыл бұрын

Well put

@masterpieces2218

5 жыл бұрын

i couldnt said it better. thats the best quote i ever heard. " Real trust is built through what you do, not what you say"

@bluntsessions3577

4 жыл бұрын

You're the truth Helen your comment brought tears to my eyes

@TheEricroberson

Жыл бұрын

I agree with you

Conclusion: Trust a cop and you'll be in trouble.

@the420beni.4

5 жыл бұрын

Shes teaching you how to profile people drug dealers looks like regular people cos they are

@jmerlo4119

5 жыл бұрын

The420beni. - Good for you! So now you know.

@johnboy3419

5 жыл бұрын

Yea cops are not ur friend that lie and are allowed to it’s a rigged game

@johnboy3419

5 жыл бұрын

Lisa Gatt u break laws everyday and don’t know it and most cops don’t know the laws either they shld go back to helping people not trying to prevent things from happening

@johnboy3419

5 жыл бұрын

Lisa Gatt no it is not cops do not know the law if they did they wld be lawyers street cops do not know the law for most part and anybody without a felony or violent offenses can be a cop

How to be deceptive and deserve no love from anyone.

I don't get it... You made them trust you -- on false premises, i.e. hiding your identity -- betrayed their trust and arrested them and now you're telling us about trust?

@nefelianonymous483

5 жыл бұрын

I was thinking exactly the same thing...

@willemhendrikvangreunen5276

5 жыл бұрын

its the same in relationships..... those dealers dont force any one to buy. u use your free will god gave u to buy.....

@luddity

5 жыл бұрын

Its all about how to con your way thru life and spot when others are doing it too.

@coraleibowitz6954

5 жыл бұрын

@@arthurwilson4839 the title I have is "What Drug Dealers Taught Me About Trust". I agree that the war is unwinnable. all wars are, because all that partake have lost their "humanity", in the high sense of the word.

@astef4863

5 жыл бұрын

cora leibowitz breaking the trust she built doesn't affect her tips for developing that trust.

It is my opinion that the drug dealers are probably better human beings that this lady.

@chrisj197438

5 жыл бұрын

Luc Desnoyers Yeah cause selling poison that kills and destroys families is a lot more righteous than being an undercover cop. Personally I would be ok with dealers being executed once busted.

@Resinpro

5 жыл бұрын

Well said Luc

@chrisj197438

5 жыл бұрын

Kevin Richards And I guess a person can die from one drink of alcohol right?

@philipbyrne6742

5 жыл бұрын

Kevin Richards so what does this person have to do with the sale or distribution of alcohol

@znort5486

5 жыл бұрын

@@chrisj197438 *clearly a person that has never used drugs* "my opinion is valid"

Taxpayer funded sociopath right here.

@t.dmobley4050

5 жыл бұрын

Doesn't that apply to most undercovers?

@Okay4mee

5 жыл бұрын

Haha ikr she has things sooooo twisted. She understands deception not trust.

@infiddle_8810

5 жыл бұрын

You think she ever ran a sting on the ceo of Starbucks?

@LosianOne

4 жыл бұрын

Canada funds some pretty wacky people.

@LosianOne

4 жыл бұрын

@@t.dmobley4050 many undercovers arent near this level of sociopath.

How is someone who spend a significant amount of time lying to everyone going to give a talk on how important trust is?!

“Trust” built in and around deception IS manipulative deception.

So she learned to trust from them and taught them betrayal? I really hoped the talk would have a better ending

@susansimpson72

5 жыл бұрын

really!!

@Lola-mn9oz

4 жыл бұрын

@@arthurwilson4839 we are not parasites,..Pam is

Betrayal is worse than criminality.

@anniezzi7513

5 жыл бұрын

tullygeevagh , dipstick.

@tullygeevagh

5 жыл бұрын

@@anniezzi7513 Thank you for your constructive comment.

@adrianmacgrath5814

5 жыл бұрын

That's ridiculous

@julietabrego7626

5 жыл бұрын

Isn't one the other?

@slockhrt

5 жыл бұрын

Depends on the crime.

This talk should be called ‘ how to use trust to exploit already vulnerable people, caught in the man made problem of drug prohibition possibly driving them toward suicide’...

That's exactly what Narcissistic Abusers do with their Targets. Trust is the base... to get Supply, Power and Control!

@CMM726

4 жыл бұрын

And there's a lot of narcs in the police force and a lot of them are judges and doctors! Watch out!

With friends like that, who need enemies!

@JaysonT1

3 жыл бұрын

Well, now you know not to buy or do your illegal drugs in front of other people. Be proud of your addiction in your room all by yourself.

One of those TEX clips where the comments actually more insightful than the lecture. Interesting there is a general feeling here that purposely betraying trust for a career is worse than being involved in supply of illegal drugs to consenting adults. Seems like attitudes to the 'war on drugs' have changed...

@drublod530

4 жыл бұрын

You think?

@iceinthepark

7 ай бұрын

Yeah it is. Legalise all drugs

You were a undercover. Explains Trust. That's a good one.

Cringe-worthy 😂 when the comments section is way more entertaining than the actual video

@attunedofficial

4 жыл бұрын

I pretended to be something I wasn't so trust me

@ComedianNemaKatt

4 жыл бұрын

Michael Watkins Freaking hilarious!

@beavinator420

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@JaysonT1

3 жыл бұрын

Kinda like your mom

Ugh. Barely on topic, and even works at cross-purposes to its ostensible purpose. This talk should have been titled, "Betrayal: Strategic Manipulation to Further Your Own Ends".

@heybuddy7410

5 жыл бұрын

cellarseer exactly, spot on.

@breahjadepromodel439

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@firstlast-cs6eg

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, I mean this time it's a police officer doing something necessary. But a con artist could give the same talk you know, and a con artist could also use the same talk. No one give Trump this link, well he probably couldn't figure it out anyway assuming he even bothered to watch it, but just in case.

@goreglass4847

4 жыл бұрын

she didnt even do that

@firstlast-cs6eg

4 жыл бұрын

@@goreglass4847 Do what?

We can build all the trust we want, but breaking trust is the problem. We don't have a trust problem because we don't know how to build it, we have a trust problem because we're so quick to break it.

She is so proud talking about something she shouod be ashamed of... crazy

@PamelaBarnum

5 жыл бұрын

Hi Nik, I was actually very proud to be a police officer. I'm still proud of the work I did and the amazing people I worked with.

@Lola-mn9oz

5 жыл бұрын

@@PamelaBarnum very sure that you are

@SkateSka

4 жыл бұрын

@@PamelaBarnum I'm not sure about the exact conditions where you work, but the drug war is both a failure in achieving it's goals and a massive drain of funds which could be better used to help addicts and mentally ill people worldwide. You did more harm than good for perpetuating a system which needs to fade away ASAP.

@drublod530

4 жыл бұрын

Pamela Barnum cause your out of touch with reality

@seanmcginley8052

4 жыл бұрын

Sounds alot like lisa Hamilton Hamilton Reality tigard oregon.walks both sides of the fence

I think her talk was about judging everyone in the exact opposite nature than what “Julie” taught her. She actually referred herself as “Wonder-woman” and described others as “thing one.” Never related anything back to what she learned with Julie/Sherry etc. She has no empathy, and clearly learned nothing.

@BradySharrett

4 жыл бұрын

she has NPD

@JaysonT1

3 жыл бұрын

How judgemental of you

@almishti

2 жыл бұрын

yeah, like I get that places like that can smell something fierce and it's sad and unpleasant, but godam she seriously did not have to sound so absolutely insulting when she's giving a talk how listening without judgement is a great way to build trust. The forum to talk like that is when you're doing standup comedy and you're making fun of yourself as much as anyone else in the story.

I find her very difficult to like. Not liking how she threw the girl with the cat, under the bus, knowing her life story of abuse and how she ended up in the drug business. Callous, very callous woman.

@Linktw0

5 жыл бұрын

The only thing i liked about her was her pants.. but, I don't get it, so how did it end tho? Did she take the crack cat or not??

@MindMoulder

5 жыл бұрын

@@msg2364 Yeah sure throw her into jail with probably way worse criminals, she will really get the help she needs /s

@fergusmallon1337

4 жыл бұрын

Just wondering about the cat. What did she do with the cat after she buted her owner? "Trust me - I'll take care of it."

@xaraprimex4669

4 жыл бұрын

@@fergusmallon1337 she'd probably betray the poor kitty too, left it in the street sumthin like that...

@xaraprimex4669

4 жыл бұрын

@@msg2364 really Lisa...everywhere man protecting your betrayal sister...

Cop talking about trust. Ok. Only one thing to know about cops, never ever trust them, they always lie.

@sloaneglover1026

5 жыл бұрын

Like, it's literally their job to lie. ACAB

@sloaneglover1026

5 жыл бұрын

You must assume all cops lie. It is their job, after all.

@PamelaBarnum

5 жыл бұрын

@@sloaneglover1026 a bit harsh. We're not all bastards.

@sloaneglover1026

5 жыл бұрын

@@PamelaBarnum I'm sure that seems true to you. It is an inescapable conclusion, however, when I see the impact of policing on my community and my society. Being "nice" individually does not exempt individuals from complicity in a system that perpetuates massive harm, values property over human life, shields members from meaningful accountability, and refuses to acknowledge (let alone address) the true root causes of behavior which is counter to the common good. Modern policing in the US is arbitrary, casually violent, petty in its enforcement, and literally founded on a tradition of racial oppression. It values order over justice at an incalculable cost, and betrays the founding values of this country at every conceivable turn. If this view upsets you, perhaps it would be worthwhile to take a serious, open-hearted look at the impact of policing, your motivation for engaging in it, and whether those things are really in alignment. Maybe your energy would be better spent lifting up struggling people.

@PamelaBarnum

5 жыл бұрын

@@sloaneglover1026 all great points. However, I worked and live in Canada. Our drug laws and policing strategies are vastly different than the US. I'm not suggesting we don't have problems here and that our policing methods are perfect. I'm simply pointing out that they are different and the laws governing undercover work are very different.

Yeh I am going to take a lesson on trust from someone who made a living from betrayal. What a bottom shelf person.

@PamelaBarnum

5 жыл бұрын

Wwx Ware, it's unfortunate that you write someone off as a bottom shelf person without even knowing them. However, if you ever want to discuss the talk with me, I'm easy to find: I use my real name and picture on KZread.

@Lola-mn9oz

5 жыл бұрын

bottom dweller alright!

@michelleobrien6996

5 жыл бұрын

This is like story time, not a TED talk

@Okay4mee

5 жыл бұрын

@@PamelaBarnum very interesting talk, it was interesting to hear your perspective on how deceiving people to lock them in boxes helps you learn about trust. That was nice of you to take care of her cat, it's unfortunate you couldn't have helped her some other way... the prison system tends to not be the best place for personal development. What if all of the energy you put into deceiving her was used to help understand her perspective or help her realize her potential to change before it got to the point of throwing her in a box where confused and lost souls are judged as hopeless and forgotten by the rest of society... did the lady every physically harm anyone against their will? Or did she only sell drugs. If she actually caused physical harm to people then yes she should be kept away from society but if she was a nice person who just provided drugs to people then I dont understand why she deserves to live in a tiny box for a long time. Of course I dont know the full story and maybe she was a terrible person but I think it would have helped to include that not all drug users and providers are terrible people... some actually care about safety and honesty and compassion (just as do some undercovers) but are lost in a system where it is made very difficult to operate without dishonesty and deception (just like the system you worked for).

@Okay4mee

5 жыл бұрын

@@PamelaBarnum I'm not saying you were wrong for deceiving her because I dont know the full story, perhaps it was necessary to lock her away to reduce suffering of others.. I just felt there were some very big points that could have been added to the talk to help people understand that not all people who use drugs are bad people... and not all people who sell drugs are bad people... it just depends on their values and intentions and if they put drugs and money before peoples safety and livelihood then that is wrong. But if they use drugs responsibly and are safe and compassionate to one another(this is possible... people take prescriptions responsibly and it's possible to take non prescriptions responsibly as well) then I dont see why they should be made to seem like a bad person and locked away. Maybe this lady was awful in every way and if so I'm glad you did your job but if she was locked away just because she was judged and labeled an placed into the stigmatized category of "drug dealer".. I dont think that's right or fair. Who are you to say people cant put a chemical in their body just because the pharmaceutical corporations and legal system decided to make it illegal. I'm not saying that is what you are saying I'm just posing the question. You seem like a very intelligent individual and I dont mesn to mock you in any way I am just providing my perspective and would love to hear yours as well, but a bit more elaborated and addressing many of the questions here that are causing people to make assumptions and judge without being willing to ask for your perspective to be elaborated. I would live to see a talk where you elaborate on some of the questions that are being asked, your perspective is not wrong and I would love to hear what you have to say further, thanks so much for sharing! (:

Watching this only increased my trust issues.

This is the most useless, disjointed, embarassing tedx talk ive ever seen/heard. What a waste of time.

So.. Never trust anyone, because they could be an undercover cop? Gotcha.

@PamelaBarnum

5 жыл бұрын

Cenzie's Crazy Corner, sorry if that's what you took from the talk.

I'm so proud to read this comment section. People are red pilled and seeing right through the propaganda. Good on ya!

Sherry needed professional help not prison...

@PamelaBarnum

5 жыл бұрын

NM - My partner and I provided information to the prosecutor which helped Sherri. She actually got professional counseling and rehab and did not spend a day in prison (aside from some minimal pre-trial jail time).

@austingode

4 жыл бұрын

Pamela Barnum Good .....

U used arguably the most powerful psychological and binding things we humans have as a weapon against them, ultimately lessening their trust in other humans. Great inspirational video. U gotta feel good about yourself

@PamelaBarnum

5 жыл бұрын

Delmar Williams, I am interested in how you think we can help our communities that are complaining about drug dealers and the harm happening in their communities. I don't think undercover work is the only answer, but it is one that works - not perfectly, but it works. I'm curious to hear what your solution is. And yes, I feel good about myself. The dealers I worked with who had addictions were offered rehab and help.

@caLLLendar

5 жыл бұрын

@@PamelaBarnum Just look to other countries that handle their drug addicts and dealers differently. Where you perceive our system as 'what works', but most people with common sense see that mass incarceration and the drug war is a key failure of our society. I'm willing to bet that before you die, you'll see that you were on the wrong side of history. Drugs will become legal. The response to drug selling and using will be different. The results will be better.

@itsmeitstrue

5 жыл бұрын

Pamela Barnum The soli

I watched this video hoping I could finally learn a way for not being as scared of humans anymore, and gaining trust in humanity. But in fact, after watching this vid I feel even more scared of this world 😢😓

Trust???? More like manipulation.

To me this was dumbfolding and actually also quite infuriating. What I do not get is how a person being in her right mind can come to the conclusion of being fit to give a TedTalk about trust after having made a living of betraying people.

@Tambrose0405

Жыл бұрын

100% agreed

Was hoping this would be about how she realized she made people's lives worse and be sorry. People like her are lifes lowest.

@PamelaBarnum

5 жыл бұрын

Grey Dog, I wish that I had more time to share the entire story involving each person I mentioned in the talk. If I had, I would have shared that each person I interacted with had the option for treatment and rehab. I work in Canada, I'm not sure where you're located. But in Canada reducing the harm caused by drugs is the primary goal - not imprisonment. I got to know each person I worked with during a long-term project and many of them had terrible backgrounds and didn't have a lot of options in life. All of that was taken into account during sentencing. Our goal was to help people have options that didn't involve selling drugs for a living. If you ever want to have a conversation about social justice or drug issues - you know where to find me. I use my real name, pic, and profile info on KZread.

@savitrrakatamatah7256

4 жыл бұрын

@@PamelaBarnum quick question for you if you will answer honestly or at all. To get to that position or level of trust you would have been seen multiple times dealing drugs to other people and also doing drugs yourself. My question is this, what makes all that okay for you to do but not anyone else? How I see it is every time you or someone like you does what you all do, you make the problem so much worse than it should have ever been had you all not done it to begin with. You and the others like you have created the drug scene of today and you are making it worse and worse every day by continuing this absurdity that you all claim to be justice. You, not the drug dealers, but YOU, have made the low life drug dealers who and what they are today. Who are you as a person that could possibly take pride in destroying a could be/would be peaceful civilization for paper aka money? Future civilizations will say that was the civilization that destroyed itself out of its greed and entitlement for worthless strips of flattened wood pulp known as paper!!!! My guess is that you will hold tight to your guns that you are right and believe it's for the good of mankind. It is not.

@goose7215

4 жыл бұрын

@@savitrrakatamatah7256 well said!

@almishti

2 жыл бұрын

@@PamelaBarnum okay, but you gave not a single word of indication of any of that anywhere in your talk. So there was nothing for anyone to come to a different conclusion. It would have taken literally one single minute to say, for example, exactly what you wrote in this comment. Probably less than one minute. It's unfortunate that you didn't do that, perhaps in the future you should make time to explain that you're not just 'trust hacking' people and calling it 'building trust', b/c that's not trust, that's manipulation, and no one likes people who they think are just manipulating others, regardless if those others are drug dealers or whatever.

Drug dealers taught me not to trust the police

lol I was wondering if anyone in the comments had the same perspective I did and turns out everyone does hahaha

@christinemcphee9226

4 жыл бұрын

Same here and it's good everyone has the same opinion

No connection to the title at all. Very good example of attention seeking behavior.

Thee worst advice on trust, probably in the history of mankind. Thank you for reminding me why not to trust.

@JaysonT1

3 жыл бұрын

Oh, cry a little bit...

I almost don't believe this. No drug dealers would do one ounce deals straight from their drug house where they are packaging bricks of coke in the back... That is an unreal risk and only happens in movies.

@sharpcsharp

5 жыл бұрын

I'm sure it is an amalgamated story, but either way, I sort of doubt they were following "best practices" being as though they got caught.

@erikaengel3824

5 жыл бұрын

An ounce back then was a lot of money. That’s a huge risk! I can’t imagine the internal dialogue that would have been going through her mind. I think it’s impressive how she was able to do her job, and blend in.

@janinefinney3521

5 жыл бұрын

@@erikaengel3824 Exactly...I can't even imagine being in that kind of situation.

@bford98541

5 жыл бұрын

Lmao yall go buy another teenth, people will catch a play whenever or wherever...

@brendanoneil3489

4 жыл бұрын

Good point, maybe she was sweeping up the easy targets to work the crime stat numbers, the bigger question of course being who is supplying them the kilo weights? The foot soldiers are ten a penny, jails are overcrowded -the Mr Bigs several levels up the supply chain are much harder to catch and generally years of investigation with no arrests doesn't make good lecture material.

Deceiving people who have to sell drugs to eat and did it mostly because they can’t find jobs due to our corrupt society... and proving to them that they were right to not trust or believe life could be different. I’m glad you feel good about yourself.

It is easy to insert yourself into any situation if you truly have a genuine heart for every human on this Earth,we are all people, most are loved by someone, cared about.....and everyone is loved equally by one person....he is our judge, we are not judges, never forget that.

Sounds a little bit psychopathic and she just taught me not to trust strangers.

@Lola-mn9oz

5 жыл бұрын

she is pathetic...had to be taught how to fake trust

@goose7215

4 жыл бұрын

So if that she was trained for her whole life... does that mean we can never trust them? Biggest concern: shes so used to betray ppl that she keeps doing it to regulate everyday ppl...

I knew that there was something deeply wrong with the concept of a "trust hack".

The whole idea is a lesson learned about the concept of trust building, why people seem to think taking out drug dealers with undercover cops is a bad thing is kind of weird to see in comments especially since that has been going on for like 50 years now

@EsotericLies

5 жыл бұрын

Cus liying to gain trust is not how you doit just like liyin a relation ship how that flew over your head is wierder

"A chain slides across...locking me in" No...dude just locks his door just like u do...he wasnt "locking you in"

This made me lose all respect for undercover police. That is a job I would never ever do. It's more immoral than selling drugs, imo

@Commanderhurtz1

4 жыл бұрын

Think about it though, how many people do Drug dealers kill with their product or with a gun? These people SELL things that they know will make people addicted, come back, and buy until they're broke because they probably need help (therapy, money, someone to talk to, etc). I feel NO pity for these drug dealers other than the fact they chose to walk that path.

@Dr6or7KraftSingles

4 жыл бұрын

Batarn not with a gun, they want to protect their business.

@attunedofficial

4 жыл бұрын

Only when they go all out to bust a small time weed dealer, but they totally have my respect for busting crack dealers and the like. They could drop crack dealers on the street for all I care.

@nidulamaknidulamak4214

4 жыл бұрын

@@Commanderhurtz1 wrong. They are fullfilling a market need. If they dont do it, someone else will... Might as well be you to sustain your family. You are only selling products, you are not forcing it down anyone's throats. By the way, you you use that logic then tell me this: alcohol is the number one cause of violence, accidental killings, brutal fights, road accidents, depression, suicide,..etc the list is VERY long. Why aren't the CEO's of these beverage companies also blamed for selling such a dangerous, toxic product? It is worse than some 'drugs'... Hypocrisy...

@andrepowell3809

4 жыл бұрын

@@Commanderhurtz1 what if they were just selling weed? No killing or anything like that. Sometime people go through things may not have medical insurance to see a psychiatrist so they self medicate. But alcohol is is legal look how many people died on that

Where I come from it's said that two wrongs don't make a right. While I agree that there are people who should be dealt with, I think what people like her are doing is wrong. Fighting fire with fire does nothing but create more fire. Doing stuff like that not only gradually changes your soul and character but also leaves you open to potential repercussions later on down the track but also endangers your family and friends and loved ones. If you think being part of ruining people's lives, even those who are very much in the wrong, will have no risks or downsides, negative effects or consequences, then you are extremely mistaken, miss.

@benmiddleton4365

5 жыл бұрын

@Glen Spivey yes but regardless of whether or not it affects them it affects someone, quite a lot of someone's. There is no such thing as a free lunch, someone or thing always pays. Bankers and lawyers and pollies are all destined and doomed to death as well, it's always simply a matter of time. I take great comfort in that fact.

@minboogie

5 жыл бұрын

best posting for this talk.

@almishti

2 жыл бұрын

@Glen Spivey funny you mention them, b/c they do the same thing Ms. Barnum does/did: create a false sense of trust in people, then betray them...and suffer no consequences while the ones they tricked do.

You've no idea how true this woman's words are.

I'm so suprised the TED folks let this person do this talk. The whole thing is a huge contradiction. She did nothing good. Her high and mighty self just stepped all over those people while their backs were turned. Sad tactics...

@davidfortier6976

3 жыл бұрын

It's a "TEDx". It isn't affiliated with TED at all. It's an independently organized event based on the format and presentation used by/in TED.

@jeffrey949

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidfortier6976 I have no idea why I'm wasting my time responding. Maybe 3am is why. It seems you've wasted your time as well, but maybe not, read on. Looking past my not caring about the opinions of random life forms. You know what, I'm gonna stop right there. E-nuff said. (I like spelling it that way. It's more fun and feels like the 90"s) Now you go chew on that for a little while. Or hey, you might need a long while I don't know. I don't judge okay. Just aim to grow. Tootles I stand by what I said over a year ago.

You really gotta feel bad for people who live life daily with so much hate in their heart to even wish someone dead. I'm sorry for all the rude comments. Hurt people, hurt people. Keep being a shining light Pam!!! I can't imagine doing the job you did but it needs to be done. Grateful for strong souls like you!

@janinefinney3521

5 жыл бұрын

Completely agree!!!

I feel sorry for all her victims.

Listened to this... taught me... to follow the opposite of everything she said about trust for anyone,...ever. Thanks for the lesson

How can she even say this when she built a bunch of ppls trust just to break it and now all those ppl will never trust anyone again because of her!!

"Hello, I work for the Govt and I am here to help!"

Hmmm I think most people watching this talk (whose title is completely misleading and leaves you with nearly nothing) have now lost trust in TED Talks :p

@sloaneglover1026

5 жыл бұрын

Ted-x is not TED Talks

@DimaNoizinfected

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, nazis also "did their jobs" when executing Jews in death camps...

@tictic701

5 жыл бұрын

@@msg2364 Truly controversial, however, you cannot blame people comparing the atrocities of past regimes to the current policing methods where officers say they are just "doing their jobs" to the point of losing their morals, not knowing where within the machine they stand, nor how far their superior's morbid fascination with the drug war goes. A fitting and relevant comparison, if there ever was one to be made between yesterday and today.

@PamelaBarnum

5 жыл бұрын

Rossana Motta, I'm sorry you feel that way. I'm always interested in learning how I can improve.

@OscarGomez-lh2wq

5 жыл бұрын

@@PamelaBarnum One way to improve is to leave the TED talks to rather more insightful people.

Getting your own Ted talk used to mean something

I honestly think cops like this are worse than most drug dealers. at least drug dealers have the balls to know who they are, many drug dealers despise what they do deep down, sick people like this volunteer for it as a career and totally get off on it under the high horse and self righteous guise of "helping society". Theyre no different than the people they arrest. different sides of the same coin. And this is coming from a republican.

@PamelaBarnum

5 жыл бұрын

Hi Stan, I agree with you about one thing - we are no different than the people we arrest. We're all human. However, I'll have to disagree with you about "getting off on it under the high horse and self-righteous guise of "helping society". My goal was to help people, and your opinion doesn't change that. You mentioned that you are a Republican. I am Canadian and worked in the Canadian legal system where our laws, values, and communities are very different. If you ever want to have a conversation about social justice or drug issues - you know where to find me. I use my real name, pic, and profile info on KZread.

So in conclusion, sherry got played.

This is not about "trust", in your case the word "deception" comes to mind. This has to be the most incongruous TedX talks I've ever heard.

@DimaNoizinfected

5 жыл бұрын

They was hired to do the drugs, they did it. Where is the argument?

How those dealers didn’t know she was a cop beats me. The whole scheme sounded like a setup. Idiots out here selling O’s to anybody asking.

@rot1092

4 жыл бұрын

michael dixon RIGHT?! she looks like a cop lol

@michaeldixon441

4 жыл бұрын

Ricardo Muniz Notice they never show her face up close and that hair is a wig..

@arthurwilson4839

4 жыл бұрын

Thats because its a setup. You dont actually believe what this TED speaker is saying do you? Think about it ...............

It's funny to have a speech on trust when you openingly admit to your betrayal of the ones that trusted you. Tisk

@PamelaBarnum

5 жыл бұрын

Pat, I thought that telling drug dealers that I was an undercover police officer might have made it tough to do my job ;) I'm sorry that the talk didn't resonate with you.

@Fasttowpro

5 жыл бұрын

@@PamelaBarnum I did enjoy the speech but the context doesn't resonate with the person who looks at trust as a two-way street. But we all have jobs to do I thank you for sharing definitely unforgettable.

@Lola-mn9oz

5 жыл бұрын

@@PamelaBarnum didnt resonate with too many Pam...this is a talk on betrayal,,,and what you have to say at the end is lost in translation due to how wonderful you think you are.

Pam is not only a great story teller but unreal at bringing home a much needed message home. Trust is a thing in this world that is being lost quick. As I read comment I hear the word "Narc" which might be something I said as a teenager but with 4 kids it is people like Pam that put themselves in front of danger to keep my kids safe. Now I see a highly skilled and courageous public servant. This is a crazy unique skill that she possesses and I am highly grateful it was shared. Thanks Pam ! Keep up the great work!!!

@janinefinney3521

5 жыл бұрын

Totally agree!

Drug dealers taught me that I'm right down the block means I'll see u in a few hours

They taught me that if your cool af with them they will bless the bag

Sometime staying undercover is good. The world is small and u never know who will come up to you and ask: u remember me?

@vandyred8354

5 жыл бұрын

Lets hope they do

@goose7215

4 жыл бұрын

I thinks its supposed to be "u remember me b*tch?"

Notice how she got absolutely no applause. Even at a Ted Talk, that is highly unusual.

@almishti

2 жыл бұрын

sounded like people started to clap but they cut the video too short to include it. lthough, i would've had a hard time applauding that talk.

Ah, it was interesting and then she let us know she was an undercover cop and whatever the “lesson” was supposed to be loses all credibility. I love how literal manipulation is referred to as a “hack”.

Great TEDx talk Pamela! Love that you used personal examples of how you built & refined your trust hack skills while you were in high risk situations & taking down the bad guys. Now, of course, in your case that trust built had to be 'broken' eventually to succeed at putting the drug dealers behind bars BUT what's important is that the skills learned are valuable and can be put to use for GOOD for the rest of us who don't work in such dangerous & unpredictable environments.

@Lola-mn9oz

5 жыл бұрын

good people dont need to learn trust as a skill...its inherent

@EsotericLies

5 жыл бұрын

Buying drugs is not high risk at all lol

@ Pamela Barnum after watching the talk over and over trying each time to learn and listen in an unbiased manner and focus more on the point, I noticed that you are actually very good at what you do. Your speech was confident and you did present very well.

@PamelaBarnum

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you @BreahJadeDolan. I appreciate that :)

I can't imagine everything that you have had to endure in your past career as an uncover cop, but I truly admire you're honesty. In moments when trust plays as a factor in survival and in keeping ourselves and others safe. Thank you so much for sharing your insights and doing well to best protect others. Way to go!!! From one isasister to the next ♡

@cw6644

5 жыл бұрын

Lol protect people from drugs? Thats funny considering buying drugs is 100% choice if its not a medicine.

There are many comments voicing the same spotlight on hypocrisy. How can we build a world of trust - when there are so many out to build fake confidence in our relationships and actively go out of their way to deceive us? Trust no-one stay out of jail.

Confidence, empathy...and thank you for looking after the kitty.

Trust should not be viewed as a weapon. McSigh...

Undercovers are the worst kind of lying sociopaths there are to pretend to be someone's friend for months while at the same time trying to send them to prison.

I enjoyed this talk. Thank you Pam for sharing your story. I especially liked the line "Imagine the ripple effect if each of us worked more toward building trust, instead of shouting that it no longer exists"

@grimerime23

4 жыл бұрын

i hope your comment's ironic... because (and im not siding with drug dealers here) she was literally paid to systematically abuse and manipulate peoples trust.

i LEARN FROM MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, but I ALSO learn from those who share their own experiences. This is a must, as stories and music shape "perception." Thanks for sharing this...

You gave me courage and you are a BRILLIANT speaker too BUT these stories are scary!!! It seems manipulation and breaking trust to me... of course it is useful as a undercover agent, but in real life.... this type of trust as you call it, is not what I would say the world needs more of. Eva, Belgium

@jefflafferty7472

5 жыл бұрын

I think that we should use these communication or trust skills in all of our relationships. Whether our relationships are reciprical or volitile, the same principals apply. Many women experience a "loving relationship" turn to hurtful and sometimes dangerous.

Better title: "How to Build Trust to Take Advantage of People".

I have watched this video several times as well as read the comments below. I was initially surprised at my feelings through Pam describing the reality of her relationships and I even found myself feeling empathy through her description of ‘Julie’ and felt myself asking, “Where was her second chance?” I then I also thought to myself, what if I were someone who personally lost a child or relative to a drug related shooting, accidental overdose or the countless others who are stull suffering from the like? Would I still feel empathy knowing that none of those would get a second chance either? Who would I side with then? The truth that never changes is that crime (not just drugs) has always existed and therefore, so has the law. Knowing this, how can you get pissed at one or the other? This was her ‘job’ at the time, which she did declare at the beginning on “how strange it would be learning trust from someone spending a career pretending to someone she was not”, that many others have done and will continue to do. The difference is I’m sure is that not many in the same profession would even have the courage to describe it publicly and so there comes the initial shock value of what Pam said. My takeaways of the a hacks (a.k.a. ‘making use of a tip’ ) on building trust that she noted were ‘active listening’, ‘confidence’ and ‘empathy’ all of which help me establish trust faster when meeting new people and are attributes I need myself when building relationships with others regardless if I was being ‘paid’ to do it or not. Out of respect for all the opinions written on this presentation, ‘active listening’, ‘confidence’ and ‘empathy’ are three attributes that seem to be dwindling in today’s age, never mind experiencing all three together in a single relationship. If someone like Pam can show all three in a situation where she was ‘paid to do it’ in a potentially dangerous environment, then within our lives that we live in, so can we. Something to consider?

@boblordofevil

4 жыл бұрын

An empathetic read that demonstrates a full analysis of the piece. I find it sad and ironic that she's levying friendships for gain; would you view the criminal nature of her victims to justify the means?

How being a professional liar makes me an authority on trust. What a joke!

I love this talk i watched this at 2x yet i still understood every word.

@PamelaBarnum

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you :)

Revolution of Trust Hacks yeah, undercover cop, you're perfect example why trust is dead, and people like you destroying it

Wow with all that potential you could have annulled the Controlled Substances Act and actually help people

It's better to not have to rely on trust. The con in con artist comes from the word confidence

Trust is everything

Her husband is an undercover cop as well. Can you imagine how well they're going to teach their children to lie? Learning to deceive isn't taught person to person or in a classroom type setting. It's taught by observing examples of behaviors matched with the consequences. Those kids are going to pick it up just fine. Mommy and Daddy can't talk about what they do at work to the kids, or each other sometimes, it's secret..we just pretend to be bad guys..that lady mommy hangs out with is a bad person, but she has to act like her friend...for her job

@cedarcedard5480

Жыл бұрын

lol she my nabour, can confirm

But I mean they should not have trusted her, so maybe we should not trust...

@SnoopCatts

5 жыл бұрын

@@AwesomeCrabman super sad but true! LOL

@sloaneglover1026

5 жыл бұрын

Well we shouldn't trust cops, obviously.

@Misana

5 жыл бұрын

@@sloaneglover1026 Lol.

@erikaengel3824

5 жыл бұрын

The fact that they trusted her meant she was able to connect with them. I don’t know how many people would have been able to do that job. I know I wouldn’t be able to do that. I would have been busted or worse.

@sloaneglover1026

5 жыл бұрын

@@erikaengel3824 I could have. But I would never, because I have a moral compass. I use my capacity to connect with and relate to others as a gift and a calling, to help people heal, not in the service of state violence. Work like that must absolutely tear a person's soul apart.

Have you ever been loyal got betrayed? found out people aren't who they protray

And.... You’re Proud of yourself? Geeeez.......

@Axterix13

5 жыл бұрын

Successfully going undercover to bring down crime rings is something worth being proud of. Also, the basic core of her talk isn't about how to use these "trust-hacks" to manipulate others, but rather, to be aware of how certain actions on our part can serve to deepen our relationships with others. Something that is handy in a day in age when we can have friends we've never seen and might barely know our neighbors. That said, I think framing it as "trust-hacks" wasn't the best choice. The talk could have been better if it was more focused on how the skills she needed to do her job impacted her personal life outside of it. By framing it as hacks, it seems more suited for a used car-salesman than the general public. In short, a negative thing, something more suited for a talk focused on how to resist them when they're used against you, rather than something to do to have a better life.

@Lola-mn9oz

5 жыл бұрын

Isnt she a prize!!!

this is what happens when a female officer thinks her "story" is something special. go home girl

@jari948

4 жыл бұрын

@Ali Fares these days XD

It’s funny when the police ask you why you’re lying to them? Why would I ever tell a police office anything even remotely close to the truth? is a better question.

Nobody was laughing at her jokes bruh💀

One thing that cannot be "hacked" is trust. Maybe creating trust for the purposes of deception can be hacked, but not actual trust which requires an equal investment by both parties.

@ItsLotto

11 ай бұрын

True