It's not pre-marital sex if you don't get married

@stvargas69

2 ай бұрын

But if you have sex with an XX chromosome person, ya gotta get hitched. He said it was expected ... back then. Today its called 304

@tdm6723

8 күн бұрын

😂

Ultimately, with all (albeit few) of these Bible passages, the idea of “premarital sex is wrong” really isn’t grabbed from the Bible, but rather people’s ideas and understandings of sexuality are injected into the Bible. I was raised in the purity movement and was so frustrated with this idea of “pureness”. It damaged me mentally for a few years of my adult life when it came to women and romance, and I know that it is affecting so many other people today. Some even commit sex crimes and have other weird sexual behaviors because they don’t know how to process sexuality as it has been deprived from their lives growing up.

Every time I watch Dan’s videos, I realize how unappreciative I was of world history in school. Ancient cultures are so cool when you’re not “forced” to learn about them.

You are amazing and appreciate the short for vids, concise yet dense

The "damaged goods" notion would unfortunately linger in public consciousness for quite some time...Even as late as Shakespeare, we find the idea of a woman legally having to marry her rapist is a "good thing" for HER, because who'd want her after that? 🤢

@donaldwert7137

2 ай бұрын

Sadly, and outrageously, that attitude seems to persist in some circles even today.

@mistylawrence6944

2 ай бұрын

​@donaldwert7137 Yup, not her fault but those people have no logic or common sence to me

@donaldwert7137

2 ай бұрын

@@mistylawrence6944 But they have plenty of judgement, more for the victim of such a crime than the perp. It disgusts me.

@mistylawrence6944

2 ай бұрын

@@donaldwert7137 Exactly " You shouldn't have been tempting him, dress differently" such BS

@donaldwert7137

2 ай бұрын

@@mistylawrence6944 When people use such a "defense", I want to tell them "As a (cis) man, I resent your implication that I have so little self-control that I would be unable to restrain myself from assaulting someone, no matter how they were dressed."

Helpful insights. Thanks Dan.

Thank you for sharing the bibliography. This is what I was thinking about as I was listening.

i would LOVE to know more about song of songs in the context of what you're sharing here

Thanks dan, just wanted to clarify for the people that fought to secure our freedoms, and show them PERSONAL PRACTICE of that religion should be protected also.

Interesting that many of these `regulations` seem to have a lot more to do with human concerns, than what one would expect from a god. Go figure.

@langreeves6419

2 ай бұрын

Of course Religions are often concerned about how we can get along with one another here. Not in heaven or with God. Virtually all of religious instruction is about how to deal with each other on earth Not stealing Not taking other people's spouses Not taking advantage of the unfortunate Instead actually helping take care of the less fortunate Being nice and forgiving one another Those are all person to person regulations Even the worship only one god regulation is about each other and not about god Ancient israelites didn't seem to be bothered or concerned whatsoever that people in other lands were worshipping other gods But they were concerned that their community be unified in the worship of one god Well , earlier in their history , they seem to be more concerned about worshiping multiple gods , But they still worship them all together

@somersetcace1

2 ай бұрын

@@langreeves6419 Yeah, that would make sense if humans are making up religions in order to promote domestic tranquility. Not so much as divine revelation from a god or gods.

@TestUser-cf4wj

2 ай бұрын

Tribalism is a defining human characteristic

Great, could I have this 20 years ago please

To be honest the Bible doesn't have a whole lot lot to say about marriage either, especially the Hebrew Bible. It tends to treat having sex and marriage as one and the same thing unless it says it's not for a specific reason.

"Do not be unequally yoked with non-believers". They use this extensively while talking about dating. Does the Bible actually say anything about dating? Because I think at that time man used just "take" someone as a wife? Pls explain.

@tsemayekekema2918

2 ай бұрын

Dating would have been considered sinful by any Christian clergyman before 1900

@mugikuyu9403

2 ай бұрын

There has always been rituals associated with marriage whether they were public or private, simple or complex.

@tsemayekekema2918

2 ай бұрын

@@mugikuyu9403 but for all Abrahamic religions in antiquity, it very certainly never allowed even a handshake or exposure of female hair/face prior to the wedding (at least that was the ideal taught by christian bishops of Classical Antiquity). Western European christianity apparently deviated from the original tradition at some point in the last thousand years, but even then, Western traditions as thought by Western bishops forbade any kissing or physical display of affection up until the 19th century. Living together with anyone you're unmarried to remained a criminal offence in both America & many European countries up until the 1910s.

There is so much arbitrariness in sexual mores. It really does highlight the emphasis of sexual gatekeeping as enforcement of social rules. All the rationalizing and arguing over what is and isn't allowable in a given culture is just a way to establish control over the most intimate parts of people's lives. It's an extension of tribalism that has nothing to do with universal human morality (the moral instincts of very young children such as fairness, fondness and fear). If an individual or group pf individuals can dictate the who, how, when, where and why of other people's sexuality, they can control all the less personal aspects of life also. The conflict is between instinctual morality (that has very little to do with sex) and instinctual tribalism. We're living in a very tribal period in history, so it makes a lot of sense that certain tribes (you know the ones) are focusing heavily on rules of sexual conduct and thereby attempting to exert social dominance.

Hi Dan, aprpeciate this vid. Can you do one addressing what the Bible has to say about masturbation? I have searched for references to this, but can't find anything directly speaking to it. Also, what was the norm for people at the time regarding this topic?

@Knowledge_Seeker64

Ай бұрын

I once read a verse, either in Deuteronomy or Joshua, where God told the soldier Israelites that if they have a semen emission, that the emission should be buried in the ground. Otherwise, God will see that emission and turn away from the camp in disgust, forcing the people to fight without God on their side when entering the Promised Land. So based on that writing and not acknowledging other biblical writers’ opinions in the slightest, it seems that God only cares about whether he can see the cum or not. So feel free to masturbate away, just bury the evidence after (assuming there is any).

I’ve tried to find anything in your videos relating to penal substitutionary atonement and atonement theory as a whole but have found nothing. With Easter just passing I was surprised to find nothing about that this past week. Could you do any content about that since it is the justification for pretty much all things that modern Christians do?

This is an important video. Dan has said all this before, but this is straight with no chaser.

"Inconsistent and sometimes contradicting."...BIIIIIG surprise.🙄😮‍💨

@MarcillaSmith

2 ай бұрын

Thankfully, our Lord established One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church on the Rock of Pope Saint Peter, which clarifies the rules of chastity to which we are to strive.

@thescoobymike

2 ай бұрын

@@MarcillaSmith oh yeah? Didn’t he set up the Sanhedrin too? How’d that turn out?

@rickinilsson9686

2 ай бұрын

You hear what you want to hear without doing any research... Big surprise.

@HandofOmega

Ай бұрын

@@rickinilsson9686 What's NOT a surprise: People assuming they somehow know all about what complete strangers perceive, believe or have learned.😮‍💨

@MarcillaSmith

Ай бұрын

@@thescoobymike Our lord faced accusations from the Sanhedrin, but did not serve as part of it, nor did he set it up. There is, of course, the sense that, "through Him, all things were made," is _that_ what you mean? Sorry, I'm just not sure what your point is.

The question that baffles me is how people come to the conclusion that, as commonly stated, "God ordained marriage." Having been a PhD student in Sociology for 12 years, I understand marriage to be a mutually constructed social reality that varies depending on time, place, and a variety of social, political and economic factors. So, since it's pretty certain that pre-Biblical societies had marriage as a social institution, what do you see as the Biblical basis for the social construction of marriage in Hebrew and later Christian societies? Are there particular portions of Tanakh or the Christian Bible that you would use to argue that "God ordained marriage"? If so, what would "Biblical marriage" be like?

@ChrisRobison

2 ай бұрын

I think his point in this video and in many others is that there is no such thing as Biblical anything, because the book spans 1000 years and therefore has different takes. Anyone who says otherwise is imposing univocally on the text.

@thomasdalton1508

2 ай бұрын

I think people usually reference Adam and Eve when talking about God ordaining marriage. God created them as husband and wife, so implicitly created the concept of marriage at the same time. The Bible doesn't describe any kind of religious ceremony associated with getting married. The consummation seems to create the marriage without any kind of ceremony being involved. There might be a party to celebrate the marriage, but that's it. The idea of marriage as a religious sacrament seems to be entirely post-Biblical.

@Bible-Christian

2 ай бұрын

As a Christian, the belief is that the Bible is the ultimate authority on all matters, including marriage. One key passage often cited to support the idea that marriage is ordained by God is Genesis 2:24, which states, "Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh." This suggests that marriage is a divine institution that was established by God from the beginning of creation. Other passages that could be used to argue for the divine origin of marriage include Ephesians 5:22-33, which compares the relationship between husband and wife to the relationship between Christ and the church. This metaphor implies a spiritual significance to marriage that goes beyond just a social institution. In terms of what "Biblical marriage" looks like, it is often understood as a covenant relationship between one man and one woman, based on mutual love, respect, and commitment. It is meant to be a lifelong partnership that reflects the sacrificial love of Christ for his church. The idea is to honor and obey God's design for marriage as outlined in the Bible.

@ChrisRobison

2 ай бұрын

@@thomasdalton1508 yes I was raised on that thought. I’m guessing the biblical text does not comprise the entirety of all that was ever written on marriage. There might be other sources that highlight other things. But I’m unaware of those. I’m guessing marriage has been around a long time, but mostly used in a way to gain something whether that is power, position or wealth. Marriage for love is a relatively recent concept.

@ChrisRobison

2 ай бұрын

@@Bible-Christian again, that’s imposing univocality because what you’ve done is given priority to only verse that comport with your views of marriage and marginalized the rest.

As an ex mormon this topic is so confusing to me. All of my relationship came to a bitter end because there was no sex. As a matter of fact there have been many more that were not started because of that same idea.

Can we have verses for claims?

Well; this is a much more detailed and honest exposition of the subject than the unremitting "Thou Shalt Not" morality lecture I received as a late teenager in the early 1970's. (This was my local Pentecostal church's reaction to the introduction of compulsory basic sex education for pubescent British secondary school pupils at that time). It was a restrictive, frustrating and impractical lesson in ultra-morality and at the half-way point a middle-aged guest speaker, (a deacon's wife), upon sensing the increasing irritability stated, "Well, love is so wonderful, why would you want anything else?" The audible groans which followed indicated that everyone just wanted to go home after that.

Thank you.

Happily, I live in a time and in a country that doesn't give a crap what the bible has to say about sex before marriage. Or at any other time for that matter, assuming that it's consensual. The religious obsession with who is putting what where is utterly baffling to me. It's none of thier damn business.

@JJMcCullough

2 ай бұрын

What country?

@tussk.

2 ай бұрын

@@JJMcCullough Scotland.

@machonsote918

2 ай бұрын

@@JJMcCullough Haiti.

@wyleecoyotee4252

2 ай бұрын

My country also isn't full of religious fanaticism.

@Alisalah_24

2 ай бұрын

If you live like that, then there is nothing that stops youngs boys from having sex with 600 women per day.

I think almost all ancient cultures were like that,women were sexual commodity

@wyleecoyotee4252

2 ай бұрын

They still are in religious societies

Dan, you must have an infinite number of T-shirts!

Is there any topic in the Bible that doesn't have contradictory messages?

I guess it's harder for us in the modern era to buy this, given that we now know just how big the universe is...the idea that a supreme being who set, and keeps, in motion all of these solar systems, galaxies and super-galaxies, from the atomic level up to the largest scale, and who maintains life on this world and possibly many others, for billions of years...really CARES about who you screw, as well as when and how.

@exhumus

2 ай бұрын

This all powerful deity didn't even deign to appear to all of the intelligent life on this one planet at once with a consistent and unambiguous message of what was expected from us.

@davidholman48

2 ай бұрын

Your comment really made my day!

@rainbowkrampus

2 ай бұрын

There's an incredible meme to this effect that I'd link to but Big Brother YT has decided that impressions from bot clicks are more valuable than user experience. So links just get your comment nuked. If you head over to Know Your Meme and append this to the URL /photos/537976-lol-jesus it should take you right to it. My recommendation for optimal viewing is to enlarge the image right away and don't skip to the end. Really spend some time contemplating the scale of the universe before you get to the end.

@rollinolson3562

2 ай бұрын

That's true for people who have some inkling of the size and complexity of the universe. Many, maybe most, people have no understanding or interest beyond their immediate lives. Their God is no bigger than their community.

@MarcosElMalo2

2 ай бұрын

@@rollinolson3562 I’m not hazarding a guess about the size of god. But as Dan suggests, it’s all about the social mores. Scripture is contradictory on the topic and offers no clear “objective” guidance specific to the topic. Perhaps the Golden Rule applies. Even then, should we take Leviticus 19:18 literally? 😂 If so, hey everybody! Free handjobs here! Get your free handjob!

In deuteronomy 21 why cut the nails and hair?

Word of the day: Pluralformity.

👍👍 I always wondered where fornication came from, meaning that it is not in the OT until the Apocrypha, and certainly not mentioned in the 10 Commandments, but it is mentioned all through the NT without any explanation. Interesting how this is a very similar situation as the devil and demons, heaven and hell.

What is very interesting is that while the Bible gives detailed instructions on what you can and cannot eat, how to construct the Temple, how to treat slaves, etc., there is not one instance that I can recall where a marriage ceremony has been described. Wedding feasts galore, but no instructions on how to get married, who conducts the ceremony, what words are to be used and so forth. It seems like the simplest and earliest form of marriage was a man taking a woman into his tent after exchanging a bride price with her parents. Sort of like today's living together sans the bride price and parental consent. The problems I see with trying to impose the supposed ancient Biblical concept of abstinence until marriage on today's culture are many. I'm not knocking waiting until marriage, if that's what you want to do, and are able to successfully do it (wait, or even get married!), that's fine. But, there was no such thing as prolonged dating/courtship back in Bible times (which I realize spans at least a couple of thousand years). In fact there wasn't even anything remotely resembling dating. Most marriages were arranged by the parents shortly after their daughters reached puberty, so, again, there was no such thing as waiting years or decades to have sex. In that culture and in that time and place it made sense to save sex for marriage. In our culture, which puts high emphasis on finishing your education and getting established in your career before you get married, what those who advocate waiting until marriage forget is that you are basically going against natural human biological drives by postponing sex until such time when you can marry. If puberty happens at 13 or 14 but marriage does not happen until the mid to late 20's or, increasingly, even later, that is a unnaturally long time (biologically speaking) to practice abstinence, and it can lead to problems in the marriage bed that nobody wants to talk about. Not that I am saying teenagers ought to have sex or that they ought to marry at 13 or 14, but there is a difference between postponing sex until 18 or 20 and putting it off for decades. What makes things worse in this matter is that we also have this idea that people should be able to find the right person on their own without any help; and when you hold on to a concept that virtually no one else around you does, it tends to hurt your chances of marrying at all. It's like being the only vegan in town. Easy to practice in the confines of your own home but not so easy when it comes to socializing with others who don't share your dietary preferences and may not want to accommodate them. If we are to encourage waiting until marriage as a valid concept, then I think these things MUST be discussed frankly without any sugarcoating. We need to be 100% honest about the pros and the cons. I was brought up to wait for marriage and now that I am in my senior years and still unmarried, now that I've seen a bit of life in its complexity, I do believe that I was lied to, not out of malice, but out of ignorance. It was all done with good intentions, I'm sure--but, the danger is when you tie that lie to a religious system that you claim is the only true one, once that lie is discovered or even suspected, it casts doubt on the whole thing.

Does it give any advice for sex on a Sabbath?

No one should be the arbiter of anyone else's sex conduct provided the active participants are consenting adults. Some people like steak and potatoes, some like a little more flavour for their fare. No one should be judged for whatever gets their rocks off. More power to you. Do you, boo boo. I do need to stress the words consenting and adults. Other than that, knock yourself out and screw what other people think. There's a lot more pressing issues we should focus on as a society than what someone does in the privacy of their bedroom/laundry room/foyer/backseat, whatever. Just imo pda is gross. No one wants to see that. Get a room, geesh...

@TestUser-cf4wj

2 ай бұрын

No one should be the arbiter of anyone else's sexual conduct provided the participants are doing it in private. No one should be the arbiter of anyone else's sexual conduct provided the participants aren't first degree blood relatives. No one should be the arbiter of anyone else's sexual conduct provided the participants are of the same race. No one should be the arbiter of anyone else's sexual conduct provided the participants are opposite genders. No one should be the arbiter of anyone else's sexual conduct provided the participants are the same religion. No one should be the arbiter of anyone else's sexual conduct provided the participants are... Once you start putting rules on it, you need to find more rules. It's a game of absolutes. Either no rules at all or all the rules. There's no middle ground. As humans we live by rules.

@PennyDreadful2024

2 ай бұрын

@@TestUser-cf4wjit seems like to your response to the OP saying that as long as both adults are consenting, you seem to be saying either we allow rape and having sex with 8 year olds, or we have tons of rules. I would argue that saying no to people harming each other with their sexuality is a middle ground and very reasonable. The fact that you are saying that if I believe people of different races should not be prohibited from having sex, then I can't have any rules preventing someone from raping your mother seems absurd.

@MusicalRaichu

2 ай бұрын

"consenting adults" includes cheating on your partner.

@lysanamcmillan7972

2 ай бұрын

@@MusicalRaichu Your agreement to practice monogamy immediately confers the power of consent onto your partner. A hard limit was drawn by that agreement. Violating it is acting without their consent. Seriously, you can even have non-consensual sex in a polyamorous arrangement if the other party or the activities involved violate a relationship agreement. You cannot claim all of the affected adults are consenting if there are pre-arranged boundaries being crossed by the two people involved.

@MusicalRaichu

2 ай бұрын

@@lysanamcmillan7972 Yes!

I am going to be honest. I have had sex outside of marriage a few times, and I have asked Jesus to forgive me. But honestly, I have never felt any of the dreadful pain and grief that many of you speak of in these comments. Yes, I feel bad for my disobedience, but I have never experienced the lasting emotional and mental pain that you all are speaking of. Maybe because I did not have sex enough times to bond with people, maybe it was because of the special mercies of the Lord ?.... I don't know, but that is my honest experience. I do wish that I had been able to marry as a young virgin though for the sake of being obedient to God and gifting my purity to my future spouse....

I have been combating this topic for many years now and I think I’m ready to share my opinion about it. We should really take the opportunity to explore sexual integrity between two committed consenting adults (married & not married), then to call it, all sinful. You can still be adulterous in a non married relationship as well. I also feel that religious people practice Abstinence for the wrong reasons, being in order to please God and Practice righteousness. It should be practice the idea of not ignorantly birthing children and not bringing drama/trauma towards other consenting adults. Sex can be a very addictive drug too and we should learn not to abuse its power. As for the texts talking about this, we need to have a better understanding of when it was written and who wrote it. Paul, a confined celibate who has seen many people (married & non married) engage in sex through prostitution in ancient times and even thought married people consummating to reproduce was a waste of time (to put it simple and short). He even says in 1 Corinthians that was his opinion and not a god given commandant(7:18). Look, I’m not saying that since the Bible is unclear about this, we should just have sex with no consequences and no strings attached, there’s no such thing tbh. Anybody can get hurt and damaged for a long time because of it. But we really shouldn’t get involved in the sex lives of others that are just committed to each other. In fact, sex should be the Big Red button that 2 consenting adults press together, in order to practice togetherness and trust, instead of getting off easily. Practice abstinence to not have the potential to hurt anyone. Practice learning about your SO and practice safe sex. Thank you for reading and god bless. :)

Can you do a video on why jesus said to not resist an evil person but god in the old testament says to kill/purge evil people from among us and allows the jews to defend themselves as well?? I think its impossible to defend yourself if youre not allowed to "resist evil people"

Hey Dan McClellan what does the Bible say about celebrating a birthday?

@gattateo

Ай бұрын

Yes! Great topic suggestion. The only thing I dislike about my Episcopal parish worship is the "Who has a birthday" and birthday prayers part. Kinda relevant to the holiday of Christmas, too.

Do a video on what the Bible describes as what is needed to create a marriage. Like me personally I don’t think dating is biblically, I think what is described in Genesis 2:24 is the only grounds for marriage.

@scienceexplains302

Ай бұрын

That is probably the closest one. There is no marriage in the Hebrew Bible, afaik. I think Data Over Dogma produced a video on this, maybe with Dr Bird. There is no dedicated word for wife or husband afaik

Not that you are looking for content, but I would be interested on your take on the story of the prostitute brought before Jesus who was going to be stoned. Whether it happened or not, I find it interesting how and why that story was projected.

@tezzerii

2 ай бұрын

@scottyvanantwerp I don't think it says she was a prostitute - It says she was caught in the act of adultery. Not sure what you're looking for, but here's two interesting points from the story - 1 - the law of moses did not specify stoning as the punishment for adultery, only that both the man and woman should die. 2 - the man involved was not brought with the woman, as required by the law. So the scribes and pharisees got it wrong - they didn't follow the law themselves.

@scottyvanantwerp

Ай бұрын

@@tezzerii I am not a scholar, I rely on those who are far more studious than I for things like this. I have found that within religions are the beginnings (prophetic?) of our modern ideals. This story, again, whether true or not, projects a powerful feminism in a misogynistic culture. I highly doubt that Jesus' intention here was to have both the man and woman stoned according to Hebrew law, but rather a light cast upon a lack of compassion for human beings who "sin" according to the laws. I tend to see "sin" as a culturally agreed upon set of no no's that can be enforced somehow, some way, whether by actual people or institutions. I am curious if this dude from Nazareth influenced our world toward women's rights and freedom. Things seem to have a beginning, could this be one? It seems like Jesus was very pro woman and even feminizes God at times in his teachings. At least that is my takeaway from what I have read. Thanks for the response.

@tezzerii

Ай бұрын

@@scottyvanantwerp I mostly agree with what you say, esp about Jesus respecting women. And in John's account of the resurrection, Jesus shows himself to Mary M. first, before the apostles even. Could be a beginning, but it's taken a long time to come out, hasn't it !

@scottyvanantwerp

Ай бұрын

@@tezzerii When I read the story of the prodigal son, I couldn't help but see how Jesus feminized the father figure. I would have loved to been a fly on the wall to watch how the men reacted in that telling :D

Second Peter 1:13... "Buy it before you try it." bad advise.

The bible prohibits a priest from marrying a divorcee, a convert, and whatever a chalalah is. This could be someone who has had pre-marital sex. The talmud puts control over sex pretty firmly in the hands of the wife. She can demand it, the husband can not. And it lays out how often she can demand it, based on the occupation of the husband and how often he is around.

How do I respond to religious people who say that AIDS is god punishment to gay men? It’s a very vial thing to say about a stigmatised illness that continues to take many lives

So what's left if everything is not a sin?

@Nick-o-time

2 ай бұрын

You can't figure out how to be a good person huh? Sucks to suckm

@mugikuyu9403

2 ай бұрын

@@Nick-o-time values don’t stop existing because you call yourself an atheist. Sex before marriage being wrong makes total sense in a world before contraception and modern healthcare.

@glenwillson5073

2 ай бұрын

​@@Nick-o-time If you think humans have the ability to work out how to be good people, just look out the window.

@Muhluri

2 ай бұрын

​@@glenwillson5073isn't it funny that South Africa, an 80% Christian country, somehow has the 3rd highest crime rate in the world? Clearly Christianity isn't doing its job

@nikkr3584

2 ай бұрын

@@Nick-o-time you have missed the point of my question

The bit that starts around 5:00 completely misses the point. People who die for for an idea or something bigger themselves are not the same creatures as an eyewitness to the “bigger thing”. They’re 2 different categories of belief. Yes, people may be willing to die for something they believe to be true, but not something they know to be false. For so many eyewitnesses to welcome death does constitute credible evidence. It doesn’t mean that there is no one in human history who may have died for a known lie at some point, but as a general matter it is less likely than someone simply dying for a cause or because they’ve chosen to believe something second hand (by read a book or talking to someone). It is absolutely probative information as it relates to the credibility of these people, at least inasmuch as it at least shows they believed they saw something.

So, let's just do what we want and not listen to any of them/it!!

@MarcosElMalo2

2 ай бұрын

Is that your opinion or are you imputing that to Dan? Because I don’t think he said that. I don’t think he offered you or me specific advice on our sexual behavior.

The bit about Jesus coming back is kind of puzzling in the whole "Plan of Salvation" context anyway. I mean, if the mission was accomplished at the resurrection, as most Christians believe, then why leave at all? Why not just stay and get the Kingdom of God underway without further ado? What's the point of the 2+ millennia "intermission"? Seems to me more like a cover story contrived to try to explain Jesus manifestly NOT being around, the divine Kingdom clearly NOT being established, and the bloody Romans still very much marching around and making nuisances of themselves running the show in Judea. But maybe I've just grown excessively cynical in my dotage.

The Bible addresses sexual morality in various passages, and the consensus among most interpretations is that it promotes sexual intimacy exclusively within the bounds of marriage, thereby implying that premarital sex (fornication) is considered sinful. Here are some key verses:1 Corinthians 7:2: "But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband."This suggests that sexual relations are to be enjoyed within the framework of marriage.Hebrews 13:4: "Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral."This verse explicitly states that the marriage bed should be kept pure, associating sexual immorality with judgment from God.1 Corinthians 6:18-20: "Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body. Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body."Paul advises Christians to avoid sexual immorality, highlighting the significance of the body as a temple of the Holy Spirit and calling for it to be honored.1 Thessalonians 4:3-4: "For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you abstain from sexual immorality; that each one of you know how to control his own body in holiness and honor,"This passage emphasizes self-control and holiness, indicating that abstaining from sexual immorality (which would include premarital sex) is part of God's will for believers.Galatians 5:19-21: "Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality... those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God."Sexual immorality is listed among the behaviors that are contrary to living according to the Spirit.While the term "premarital sex" is not used explicitly, these and other passages form the basis for the traditional Christian understanding that sexual activity is intended by God to occur within the context of marriage. The emphasis on purity, self-control, and the sanctity of the marriage relationship reflects the broader biblical narrative that sees sexual relations as a profound union meant to reflect the covenantal love between Christ and the Church (Ephesians 5:31-32).

Hebrew Bible: Oh I’m only supposed to have sex with the women I’m married to/marry women I had sex with. New Testament/Paul: Oh I’m not to have sex at all!😰

@mugikuyu9403

2 ай бұрын

Hebrew bible: ethnic literature developed over hundreds of years Paul: apocalyptic Jew who thought the end-times were here

"...women were viewed as sexual commodities..."..................YEAH!........Make America Great Again!

How is this “morality” be applicable to todays day and age?

@lysanamcmillan7972

2 ай бұрын

Ah, you see the rest of the problem! Our culture is not theirs. We do not speak their language, wear their clothing, live in their region. We don't eat their foods the same way. We don't have the background and upbringing. So here we are with people using a culture they don't understand to bash people over the heads with. How to resolve that is one of the better "how should Christians behave" questions I've seen in a long while.

@HankFacepunch

Ай бұрын

It isn't.

Talmud considers urges appropriate: It seems to say that one of the husband's jobs is to keep his wife satisfied. (And of course, the details are wild.)

Watching Dan’s videos he always says according to the Bible being gay is ok. With this video he says pre-marital sex is wrong. So gay sex was only ok if you were both virgins and waited for marriage? How? If 2,000 years later we still haven’t legalized gay marriage either in state/country laws or Vatican/Protestant denominational church laws.

@lysanamcmillan7972

2 ай бұрын

He said no such thing. He pointed out the story changed as the cultures writing the texts that became the Bible changed. He also noted that you can see support for or at least no condemnation for what amounts to having sex with your betrothed or a man paying a secular sex worker for an hour of her time.

@jp8871

2 ай бұрын

He said you can only have sex with your betrothed if it ends up in marriage. That seems like no condemnation?

X-Men ‘97!! #Wednesdays #Disney+

If you go to according to bible. Their is no such thing as premarital sex. The sexuel act itself is the marriage and we do not refer to Judaism when seeking answers from God and His book.

So in ot - nothing and women are property yay NT- Be single if you're a widow, cuz end times is now, but even that's just as a recommendation according to 1cor, try not to grab prostitutes esp temple prostitutes/ no incest/ adultery

Was Paul a Homosexual?

@matthiaswenger00

2 ай бұрын

Nooo

@papabear2262

2 ай бұрын

Was Paul a homosexual? You'd have to ask Timothy.

Butt what does it say about soaking?!?

@susangrande8142

2 ай бұрын

Butt soaking???

Your hitting on a lot of the meat and potatoes of the truth here but still getting some tangential points wrong. The reason for the New Testament sexual sentiments obviously spawn from Jesus’s teachings a name which you forgot all together in this video. And that is just fact. But regarding the OT we do see a bit more consistency than you lead to believe but more than that we see a progression of sexual morality and we see a consistency with God’s view on it even though not explicitly stated.

Sure but what does the leprechaun have to say about it ?

I don't care what the Bible says about anything. It was written by Hebrews for Hebrews.

Can you address Irenaeus and his ethic developed to address the gnostics in his writings...

Jesus is coming, so you don't have to.

Who cares what the bible says

Isn't Dylan Mulvaney an ex man?

@mugikuyu9403

2 ай бұрын

He’s still very much a man.

@lysanamcmillan7972

2 ай бұрын

She has nothing to do with this. Obsessed with her much?

@mugikuyu9403

Ай бұрын

@@lysanamcmillan7972 ‘she’ is a man and will remain a man even when he’s a corpse in the ground. Sex can’t be changed and gender doesn’t exist so there’s no such thing as an actual gender change either.

0:13 what the Bible says about premarital sex is inconsistent and contradictory *Rest of video is consistent how sex before marriage is wrong* 0:55 you can only have premarital sex if it ends up in marriage 1:15 women were expected to be virgins until marriage to keep their purity intact 1:39 if women weren’t virgins they would be considered “damaged goods” 2:26 sex is only considered appropriate if it is within the confines of marriage, anything else is inappropriate 2:45 sex should only happen to procreate so no sex during menstruation or pregnancy 3:13 celibacy is the higher law 3:28 if you really wanna have sex be married first so you don’t commit sexual sin 3:40 porneia/ fornication meaning illicit sexual behavior includes pre marital sex, adultery and sex work for the majority of New Testament authors possibly all because if there were authors that didn’t think it was that big a deal, they didn’t say it.

@Userrrrrrr789

Ай бұрын

It’s still contradictionary to say that pre-marital sex is a sin, but seeing sex workers is OK. It’s still contradictory for some parts to say that sex within marriage is OK completely, while other parts say you can only do it for procreation, and others say only during certain times. Like he said, it’s not the act itself but the social implications of the act, most of which don’t even exist anymore. Not a single Christian denomination would condone a man seeing a sex worker, and any Christian denomination that is against pre-marital sex would never say that it’s okay as long as you eventually end up marrying the person. So in theory to subscribe to the idea that premarital sex is wrong biblically, you must first strive for celibacy, have premarital sex if you plan to marry the person, have it be unenjoyable and only for procreation, and believe that only women must remain virgins and that female human beings are property to be bought and sold.

It was perfectly alright for Bill Clinton to have a lil some-some in the Oval Office. Yeah, baby!

Yeah but what does Nelson say? ;) jk! Who cares!

If you treat your body like a public bus, you soon will have all the ailments said bus has. You might not see the roaches or know how many times the seats have been urinated on, but it has been. Thats why the fare is so cheap. Everyone can ride Its more about self respect than who or how many

@lysanamcmillan7972

2 ай бұрын

Buses are cleaned, and so are people's clothing and bodies. This analogy is despicably ignorant and hateful.

@Userrrrrrr789

Ай бұрын

Self-respect is not comparing your body to an inanimate object like a bus……

another day, another video contorting the bible to fit modern sexual ethics!

@MusicalRaichu

2 ай бұрын

He's not contorting the Bible, he's telling you what it records. Its various authors came from a range of cultures each with their presuppositions which differ considerably to today. In today's western world, men and women are equal, it's for mutual benefit, consent of both is paramount, we don't allow marrying underage anymore, and we acknowledge variation in orientation.

It’s ridiculous to even consider the teachings of an ancient book. The Bible was written by people who were essentially barbarians. Children were married off as young teens. People had very short lifespans compared to today. Expecting people to “save themselves” & remain “pure” for years or decades after puberty is harmful due to the self-hatred & shame instilled in believers.

*1st Corinthians 6:18-19 says that fornication is the only sin against the body and the body is the Temple where the Holy Spirit lives. Sexual sin is the only sin singled out as being worse than others.*

@hive_indicator318

2 ай бұрын

What does it say in the original Greek?

@residuejunkie4321

2 ай бұрын

​@@hive_indicator318*Actually what it says now doesn't really matter because **_ALL_** scripture in every language has been supernaturally changed and is no longer trustworthy.*

@residuejunkie4321

2 ай бұрын

*The King James bible **_was_** at one time a literary masterpiece without blemish. There were no spelling, grammar or punctuation errors in it. I have a short film in my playlist on how that was accomplished. Now, they're on every page! Satan has **_supernaturally_** attacked it more than any other translation, but all of them in every language have been destroyed in the fulfillment of prophecy! Plus all concordances, encyclopedias, dictionaries, history books, the original manuscripts and the Dead Sea scrolls have been miraculously changed!* *Not every word, Satan is too smart for that and he understands that rats won't eat pure poison so .05% is added to 99.95% corn and the rats love it... and perish for lack of knowlege!* *Our Father said to "prove all things" and you better obey Him on this thing especially. I have an exceptional memory, I can draw an accurate picture of my baby stroller. I'm 71, was saved when I was 10 and **_had been_** reading only the **_exact same copy_** of the King James bible since 1961. (I am not a king James onlyist, but now I'm glad I never read any others or I might not have noticed the changes as soon.) I memorized many scriptures out of it over the years and I absolutely **_know_** that the word **_demons_** used to be all through it. But today that word is not anywhere in there! It was replaced with **_devils._** And the only place I've ever read the word **_wineskins_** was in my bible, but it's not in it any more either. It was replaced with **_bottles._** And now **_unicorns, easter, matrix, castles, damsels, stuff, corn, colleges, banks, employment, schools, missles, tires, mufflers, manifolds, engines, highways, suburbs, pavement, presidents, doctors, pilots, sheriffs, beer, dumb ass, India, Spain, Italy, ferryboats, couches_** and lots of other words are in my bible that I never saw in it my whole life! Many of these words are anachronisms (they didn't even exist in 1611!) It never talked about men with milk in their breasts nursing babies either, but now it does! Isaiah 11:6 used to say the **_lion_** shall lie down with the lamb, not the **_wolf_** shall also dwell with the lamb! Lion represents Jesus and wolf is associated with Satan! The first 14 films in my playlist will show you plenty of undeniable "residue" (proof of what **_was_** that Satan missed) on that verse. Luke 17:34 used to say "two shall be in one bed, one shall be taken and the other one left", but now it says "two **_men_** shall be in one bed...! And the following verse said "two women shall be grinding at the mill together..." and now it just says "two women shall be **_grinding together_** ...! So now the bible makes it sound like some homosexuals are going to be ''raptured"! **_BTW the tribulation is 3 1/2 years, Jesus comes back immediately after just like He said and then God's Wrath comes after Jesus' return._* But *this is the BIGGIE,* in Luke 19:27 it has Jesus saying "And those mine enemies that would not that I should reign over them, bring hither and *SLAY THEM BEFORE ME!"* It did say _eshew_ them away! This change makes Christians sound like radical extremists!! *Millions of Christians will be killed because of this verse!!!* And I know that this is a parable, but the king Jesus was talking about was Himself, the King of Kings! The film titled 'What is the Strong Delusion by Truth Shock TV which is in my playlist, it is probably the most important video most of you have ever seen. (It has Chuck Missler and Chuck Lawson in it too.) *I memorized the Lord's prayer as a boy because Jesus told us to say it, and I have said it tens of thousands of times, and it absolutely did not say **_which_** art in heaven, it said **_who_** art in heaven, it didn't say **_in earth,_** it was **_on earth._** And it now says forgive us our **_debts_** instead of our **_trespasses!!!_* *God has sent His strong delusion to all of the people that never received the love of the truth! What's scary is, so far that appears to be almost all believers! This incredible phenomenon they're calling the Mandela effect is absolutely real, but it should actually be called the Daniel 7:25 effect because that's where God said He would give the Antichrist power to do this, (''change times and laws''). I first became aware of some of the bible changes in 2014 before I ever had a computer or had heard of the Mandela effect. But since 2016 I've watched many hundreds of videos on the subject, and saved some of the best and most important ones for proving your bible has been changed and pointing out all the places this was talked about in end time prophecies that we had previously misinterpreted in my playlist which you can see by 👉 typing into KZread (PROOF OF BIBLE CHANGE RESIDUE JUNKIE)* 👈 *Even though I will no longer read any bible, mine gives me the creeps just looking at it like a Ouija board or something, I continue to study God's true written word by seeing what scriptures have been changed with proof of what was originally written. I urge you all to do the same, while you still can, because when the lights go out, all we'll have then is hard copies of the bible Satan wants us reading! At that point Amos **8:12** will be fulfilled where it says we will no longer be able to find His words anywhere again.* *This is without question the biggest and most important event since the day of Pentecost! When you see absolute proof that the miraculous fulfillment of end time prophecies are happening with your own eyes, and how close we are to our Savior's return, it's the most faith strengthening and exciting thing that you've ever experienced!* *God bless you all!!!* ❤✝️💪🏻 *P.S. YT won't notify me when people reply to my comments so write me at my g mail address which is residue junkie in one word.*

@digitaljanus

2 ай бұрын

Pardon me if I don't rush to adopt the proclamations of a doomsday cultist who died 2,000 years ago.

@deprogrammershepherd1234

2 ай бұрын

Praise YHWH!

Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral. Hebrews 13:4 For a man who claims to be a Bible scholar, he doesn't refer to the Bible. The above restriction also goes in the face of prevailing culture as Romans were quite willing to engage in temple sex.

@MusicalRaichu

2 ай бұрын

He didn't quote individual verses but gave a sound comprehensive summary and pointed out that issues and mores varied over time, place and author. Romans considered it OK for males once they reached a certain age to use male and female prostitoots and slaivs both before and after marriage. They saw moicheia - infringing another man's property - as wrong. Jews were more conservative and saw both moicheia and porneia as wrong. There's no consistent "definition" of the scope of the latter but it included using prostitoots. Attitude to the use of slaivs is not explicitly addressed (it's possible that most victims of "male-bedders" 1 Cor 6.9, 1 Tim 1.10 were slaivs). Heb 13.4 says that if you're married, do it with your partner, not another man's wife (moicheia) or a prostitoot (porneia). It's silent on premarital.

@milanterzic859

2 ай бұрын

@@MusicalRaichu Now for the matters you wrote about: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” 2 But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband. 1 Corinthians 7:1-2 Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do. 9 But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion. 1 Corinthians 7:8-9 Also read Deuteronomy 22:13-21. Those who love sin are always looking to twist the Bible to excuse their sin.

@MusicalRaichu

2 ай бұрын

@@milanterzic859 I don't understand. This is not about excusing sin, it summarizes advice Bible authors gave so as not to sin given cultural presuppositions. Romans considered it acceptable for married men to use prostitoots, while Jews disagreed. Paul, a Jew, thus said in 1Cor 7.2 that married people should do it with their partner not prostitoots ("porneia"). 7.9 it is "better" to marry, not premarital is a sin. Since girls were married off young in those days, men's options were use prostitoots, raip slaivs or get married. Which would you advise? Dt 22 is a disgrace and unfit behaviour in the kingdom of God. It treats women as property of lesser value if they've lost their virjinity, like a new vs used car. KiIIing a girl for lying about her virjinity is a heinous crime.

@NYCFenrir

Ай бұрын

@@milanterzic859 You left out 1 Corinthians 7:6 “This I say by way of concession, not of command.“ The only commands listed are for wives not to divorce husbands.

@milanterzic859

Ай бұрын

@@NYCFenrir The context is about celibacy not about fornication. As I have said repeatedly, atheists are always looking for a way to twist the Bible to excuse their sin. If you want to have unrestrained sex then go right ahead. But don't expect eternal life afterwards.

Who cares

Knowledge without wisdom on full display

@boboak9168

2 ай бұрын

Don't be so hard on yourself 😉

Dan says we can do it, so DO IT!

"Pornia" my new favorite word