Loving this comment section, many people share their views and training histories, overall very nice and respectful, the way we want it to be, thanks for the support🥋
@orsatstrazicic96132 ай бұрын
This is a wholesome video and the tone of it is pure serenity amidst the fighting which is considerend as simply violence. We are martial artists, we know how to fight but that does not make us violent. We control and redirect violence, for we are peacekeepers and we prevent violence. Long live Jiu Jitsu, long live Mixed Martial Artists💪🥋Long live good people who are also fighters💪
@KatoCoyoteCombatWorkshop4 ай бұрын
JJJ can mean a lot of things now, unfortunately. My city is dominated by BJJ schools but there's only one JJJ school which I tried out, but they had no sparring. The major focus was self-defense scenario escapes with some aikido in there and sometimes we hit pads. Once I started watching what the higher belts were doing wasn't much different from my pure white belt curriculum, I moved on. I love JJJ, hopefully I'll find a school like this one, but until then I'll stick to Muay Thai.
@martialgeeks
4 ай бұрын
Yep Jjj isn't standardised, and it's hard to even pinpoint as to what it is
@shadowfighter6445 Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite old school Jujutsu masters is the guy from Fusen ryu who used ne waza techniques against Judokas and defeated most of them. Thank you for sharing ☺️.
@martialgeeks
Жыл бұрын
So many forms of Ju Jutsu and it's sister arts out there, so much to explore and learn from in the world, to quote one of my favorite fictional characters; "there's so much more for you to unearth, if you have the heart for the truth and the will to see it" - Kain from Legacy of Kain
@SoldierAndrew Жыл бұрын
Takenouchi Ryu is the oldest living Japanese Jujitsu school today. Once military/martial combative melee arts become sport oriented we see high kicks, closed fist punches to the head, prolonged newaza ground grappling and a focus from armed melee combat defense shifts towards complete unarmed dueling. Yet for some reason modern civilians still call this martial (military) arts.
@martialgeeks
Жыл бұрын
Yes, real life or death fights are ugly and scary, but having a good functional sport practice like mma or generalised JJJ and arts/sports as such are a solid foundation to build upon for fighting.
@caseyryback6932 Жыл бұрын
I practice JJ for about 7 years now. I like it because it contains strikes, kicks, grappling, throws and ground game. I can't think of an art that involves all that...except MMA. You could say it was the MMA of the past. Many styles like Judo, Aikido....and BJJ derived from Jiu-Jitsu or one of it's ancestors (f.e. Aiki Ryu), and most of them focussed on one field specifically. Of course when it comes to self defense, traditional arts are reduced to the very simple moves, which makes it kind of look like MMA or maybe Krav Maga, but launching the fancy stuff in demos and exams is very pleasing. Looking across styles you will often find techniques that have allmost identical pendants in other styles. Its simply because thie origins are mostly the same and human anatomy didn't really differ when you changed the country or region... I also have practiced some Wing Tsun and I am lucky to be in a Dojo where I can incorporate other styles to make my JJ suit me best. It is allways good to keep your mind open.
@martialgeeks
Жыл бұрын
This is about as perfect as a comment can get
@marcelklein38795 ай бұрын
In our jiu Jitsu class literally all martial arts meet. There are many who have a judo background, some come from karate, aikido ,Kickboxing or Muay Thai. Everything can be applied in jiu jitsu, that is so great about it. Japanese jiu jitsu is more focused on self defense than that it's a sport. It is so multifaceted that there can be big differences between schools. Some are a bit more focused on fighting standing up, and some are more focused on fighting on the ground, some to a point that it is almost indistinguishable from Brazilian jiu jitsu.
@martialgeeks
5 ай бұрын
That's how we do it!
@TheTechniqueSponge Жыл бұрын
So much memories brah, we are better as times goes along
@cahallo59645 ай бұрын
Generalised version of japanese jujitsu that actually left Japan* is what is shown in this video, there are still obscure koryus in Japan and you can't really even find footage on youtube of and I find that really strange but it's true! Also, you forgot to mention jjj has weapons, which is the coolest part of it in my opinion.
@martialgeeks
5 ай бұрын
100% true, you're correct this video is quite incomplete, we deffinitely got to a new version! Thanks for the comment
@andrewmacdonald8076 Жыл бұрын
Smooth🥝🇳🇿😊
@andrewzimba7432 Жыл бұрын
The only unarmed martial art i can think of that doesn't fit in this mold (i.e.; indistinguishable from modern MMA) is Lethwei and it's variants because of the tight integration of head strikes (strikes with the head, not strikes to the head). I assume TJJJ would have included head strikes, but I've never seen it included in any curricula.
@martialgeeks
11 ай бұрын
Yes, most of the common "mma" type curiculums exclude head strikes except a few like Lethwei and kudo
@eughn Жыл бұрын
I was part of modern'ish jiu jitsu school based on classic yoshin ryu jujitsu style for more than decade in Belarus and Ukraine. And I was taking part in 2 week BJJ camps in Brazil and Cuba a few times. The only difference I see is that we were focused on randori waza and kumite (stand-up wrestling and fighting), BJJ is all about suwari waza (ass-crawling grappling) Any I don’t care if BJJ is more efficient in UFC, to me it is boring :)
@martialgeeks
Жыл бұрын
Love the Suwari Waza comment 🤣🤣🤣 But jokes aside, I agree 100%
@esoeso2168 Жыл бұрын
Well said brother, well said.
@georgekenshin3 ай бұрын
Check Hakko ryu jujutsu. A gendai budo but with ancient roots
@regissudo Жыл бұрын
Just to play devils advocate. Would not be that JJ look so close to MMA because they follow the same ruleset wile sparring more than because "they are looking for 'function'" or "real world application" ? What MMA would look like if, for ex, weapons was allowed? How different MMA would look like if more "real world" elements, like an uneven, dirty, build using concrete floor was utilized instead of the padded one we used today. What if we take away the gloves? Without a doubt judo throwing techniques would raise, hight kicks like we see in this video would be abandoned, and karate open hands techniques would be seen more often. All changes that would make everything more "real world" like, but would show a total different set of tools being used. So, I would say, more than "function" we are talking about "function for a combat sport environment". Or "what works on MMA ruleset".
@Bourne2468 ай бұрын
I sometimes snicker at comments from young gen mma practitioners saying old school aint worth anything.. when in fact its all the same eventually
@martialgeeks
8 ай бұрын
Spot on!
@alasdairyoung184 ай бұрын
Imagine the smell.
@dimitriossilligardos917 Жыл бұрын
With all respect what I see is judo itsu.all I see is kick boxing sparring and ground fighting with rules.ju jitsu is self defense including eye pokes, hitting the groin,dislocation of joints.....besides that keep up the good work..
@martialgeeks
Жыл бұрын
Agreed to a point, where I dissagree a bit is that Ju jitsu includes all of that, but to be able to apply all the dangerous illegal tchniques that could be used in self defense, you first have to be good at the fundamentals which are best trained through kickboxing, ne waza, full contact etc.
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Loving this comment section, many people share their views and training histories, overall very nice and respectful, the way we want it to be, thanks for the support🥋
This is a wholesome video and the tone of it is pure serenity amidst the fighting which is considerend as simply violence. We are martial artists, we know how to fight but that does not make us violent. We control and redirect violence, for we are peacekeepers and we prevent violence. Long live Jiu Jitsu, long live Mixed Martial Artists💪🥋Long live good people who are also fighters💪
JJJ can mean a lot of things now, unfortunately. My city is dominated by BJJ schools but there's only one JJJ school which I tried out, but they had no sparring. The major focus was self-defense scenario escapes with some aikido in there and sometimes we hit pads. Once I started watching what the higher belts were doing wasn't much different from my pure white belt curriculum, I moved on. I love JJJ, hopefully I'll find a school like this one, but until then I'll stick to Muay Thai.
@martialgeeks
4 ай бұрын
Yep Jjj isn't standardised, and it's hard to even pinpoint as to what it is
One of my favorite old school Jujutsu masters is the guy from Fusen ryu who used ne waza techniques against Judokas and defeated most of them. Thank you for sharing ☺️.
@martialgeeks
Жыл бұрын
So many forms of Ju Jutsu and it's sister arts out there, so much to explore and learn from in the world, to quote one of my favorite fictional characters; "there's so much more for you to unearth, if you have the heart for the truth and the will to see it" - Kain from Legacy of Kain
Takenouchi Ryu is the oldest living Japanese Jujitsu school today. Once military/martial combative melee arts become sport oriented we see high kicks, closed fist punches to the head, prolonged newaza ground grappling and a focus from armed melee combat defense shifts towards complete unarmed dueling. Yet for some reason modern civilians still call this martial (military) arts.
@martialgeeks
Жыл бұрын
Yes, real life or death fights are ugly and scary, but having a good functional sport practice like mma or generalised JJJ and arts/sports as such are a solid foundation to build upon for fighting.
I practice JJ for about 7 years now. I like it because it contains strikes, kicks, grappling, throws and ground game. I can't think of an art that involves all that...except MMA. You could say it was the MMA of the past. Many styles like Judo, Aikido....and BJJ derived from Jiu-Jitsu or one of it's ancestors (f.e. Aiki Ryu), and most of them focussed on one field specifically. Of course when it comes to self defense, traditional arts are reduced to the very simple moves, which makes it kind of look like MMA or maybe Krav Maga, but launching the fancy stuff in demos and exams is very pleasing. Looking across styles you will often find techniques that have allmost identical pendants in other styles. Its simply because thie origins are mostly the same and human anatomy didn't really differ when you changed the country or region... I also have practiced some Wing Tsun and I am lucky to be in a Dojo where I can incorporate other styles to make my JJ suit me best. It is allways good to keep your mind open.
@martialgeeks
Жыл бұрын
This is about as perfect as a comment can get
In our jiu Jitsu class literally all martial arts meet. There are many who have a judo background, some come from karate, aikido ,Kickboxing or Muay Thai. Everything can be applied in jiu jitsu, that is so great about it. Japanese jiu jitsu is more focused on self defense than that it's a sport. It is so multifaceted that there can be big differences between schools. Some are a bit more focused on fighting standing up, and some are more focused on fighting on the ground, some to a point that it is almost indistinguishable from Brazilian jiu jitsu.
@martialgeeks
5 ай бұрын
That's how we do it!
So much memories brah, we are better as times goes along
Generalised version of japanese jujitsu that actually left Japan* is what is shown in this video, there are still obscure koryus in Japan and you can't really even find footage on youtube of and I find that really strange but it's true! Also, you forgot to mention jjj has weapons, which is the coolest part of it in my opinion.
@martialgeeks
5 ай бұрын
100% true, you're correct this video is quite incomplete, we deffinitely got to a new version! Thanks for the comment
Smooth🥝🇳🇿😊
The only unarmed martial art i can think of that doesn't fit in this mold (i.e.; indistinguishable from modern MMA) is Lethwei and it's variants because of the tight integration of head strikes (strikes with the head, not strikes to the head). I assume TJJJ would have included head strikes, but I've never seen it included in any curricula.
@martialgeeks
11 ай бұрын
Yes, most of the common "mma" type curiculums exclude head strikes except a few like Lethwei and kudo
I was part of modern'ish jiu jitsu school based on classic yoshin ryu jujitsu style for more than decade in Belarus and Ukraine. And I was taking part in 2 week BJJ camps in Brazil and Cuba a few times. The only difference I see is that we were focused on randori waza and kumite (stand-up wrestling and fighting), BJJ is all about suwari waza (ass-crawling grappling) Any I don’t care if BJJ is more efficient in UFC, to me it is boring :)
@martialgeeks
Жыл бұрын
Love the Suwari Waza comment 🤣🤣🤣 But jokes aside, I agree 100%
Well said brother, well said.
Check Hakko ryu jujutsu. A gendai budo but with ancient roots
Just to play devils advocate. Would not be that JJ look so close to MMA because they follow the same ruleset wile sparring more than because "they are looking for 'function'" or "real world application" ? What MMA would look like if, for ex, weapons was allowed? How different MMA would look like if more "real world" elements, like an uneven, dirty, build using concrete floor was utilized instead of the padded one we used today. What if we take away the gloves? Without a doubt judo throwing techniques would raise, hight kicks like we see in this video would be abandoned, and karate open hands techniques would be seen more often. All changes that would make everything more "real world" like, but would show a total different set of tools being used. So, I would say, more than "function" we are talking about "function for a combat sport environment". Or "what works on MMA ruleset".
I sometimes snicker at comments from young gen mma practitioners saying old school aint worth anything.. when in fact its all the same eventually
@martialgeeks
8 ай бұрын
Spot on!
Imagine the smell.
With all respect what I see is judo itsu.all I see is kick boxing sparring and ground fighting with rules.ju jitsu is self defense including eye pokes, hitting the groin,dislocation of joints.....besides that keep up the good work..
@martialgeeks
Жыл бұрын
Agreed to a point, where I dissagree a bit is that Ju jitsu includes all of that, but to be able to apply all the dangerous illegal tchniques that could be used in self defense, you first have to be good at the fundamentals which are best trained through kickboxing, ne waza, full contact etc.