That was nice-I liked how he answered and correctly his understanding in a gentle manner-kudos IP!

I like this "answering a question" format a lot.

Tohuwabohu has found its way into the German slang as meaning "chaos" -- more or less.

@Truthfreesandheals48

10 ай бұрын

The earth was chaos because it was a wasteland. That's correct.

Lovely to see such a young person diving into the Word and wondering.

Your response was very kind and gentle

@alanx4121

8 ай бұрын

because the question was too for a change :D

In German we use Tohuwabohu as a regular term to describe a disorderly room or sth like that, like “what a Tohuwabohu!“

@wishyouthebest9222

Жыл бұрын

Stimmt! GOD bless

@maxalaintwo3578

Жыл бұрын

Guess those Yiddish folks gave you something huh

@GabrielLukeCraig

Жыл бұрын

​@@maxalaintwo3578 😆😆

@Christ_the_only_way

Жыл бұрын

I am German and I never heard that in my life. Guess I am just a superior western German

@protestant77

Жыл бұрын

SCIENCE CAN EXPLAIN!!! 1 Day = rotation of the planet sunset to sunset is 24 hours! 1 Month = the 30 day moon cycle! 1 Year = the rotation of the earth around the sun 360 days! But there's NO astronomical explanation for a 7 day week cycle🤷🏻‍♂️??????? The HOLY BIBLE is the only accurate explanation for 7 literal 24 hour days for the week!!! As an artist places his signature on his masterpiece in the lower right hand corner after he is done. Truly the 7th day SABBATH is God's signature on creation! 👉(Genesis 2:2,3) 👉(Ezekiel 20:12) JESUS says keep Sabbath POPE says keep Sunday Sabbath = Exodus 20:8-11 Sunday = Mark 7:7 🤔WHO DO YOU OBEY?????

Thank you for answering this child in a kind manner. ❤️

I'm a big fan of Alter's translation of "welter and waste" because it uses alliteration to capture of feel for "tohu wabohu" in a way "formless and void" doesn't quite grasp. I'd recommend Alter's translation to anyone who wants a fresh OT translation to compare with your preferred one in a full Christian Bible.

@Tyler-xf4kf

Жыл бұрын

Do you have Alter’a entire Hebrew Bible set? Do you like it? I’m thinking about purchasing it myself

@dondgc2298

8 ай бұрын

I just ordered the set from Amazon yesterday. I’m looking forward to using it.

Keep doing these, I like that you use the original text to show the real meaning of certain words. 🙏

@JaguarKing1

Жыл бұрын

It doesnt matter if its scientifically inaccurate

@seeker4trvth

Жыл бұрын

@@JaguarKing1 depends if you view evidence from the standpoint of creationist, or evolutionist.

@JaguarKing1

Жыл бұрын

@@seeker4trvth we dont believe that evolution is true correct? Cause the creator is the one constantly creating. Theology lines up with science because of the simple fact that God allowed man to have this knowledge regarding the creation of the universe, done through a process of billions of years where we as humans are able to comprehend through dating and looking into the universe and its age. Its done through a process for understanding. Surely, the creator can simply create everything in an instant but then we would not understand his creative power if that was done. Evolution is a broken theory

@seeker4trvth

Жыл бұрын

@@JaguarKing1 are you familiar with Robert Gentry's studies on young Earth, how he examining the granite and proved it was formed in less than 3 minutes?

@JaguarKing1

Жыл бұрын

@@seeker4trvth no i have not but i am willing to look into it.

Love the indepth explanation of the words.

It is also important to not that Shamayim (Heavens) also means space. Hebrew is a functional language so just as earth means what's below us, heavens means what's above us.

@samueltomjoseph4775

Жыл бұрын

Yeah for some reason there's mayim or waters in shamayim

@TheDoctrineDetectiveChannel

Жыл бұрын

@@samueltomjoseph4775 is there not water above us?

@samueltomjoseph4775

Жыл бұрын

@@TheDoctrineDetectiveChannel Yeah, that's the point

@TheDoctrineDetectiveChannel

Жыл бұрын

@@samueltomjoseph4775 May יהוה bless you brother.

@samueltomjoseph4775

Жыл бұрын

@@TheDoctrineDetectiveChannel amen and same to you. But why, since water is above shamayim not a part of it

This makes Genesis even better.

Yes! Thank you so much for finally chilling out and being kind! This is what we like to hear. Direct answers with love and intention.

Your tone in this video is perfect please try to keep it that way. I am a long time follower but a lot of the times your ego comes out in your tone and while I understand it a good psychological rule to follow is that people don’t care what you know until they know you care.. it goes a long way especially in your tone I appreciate it.

I prefer your tone and manner with which you educated this Tiktokker compared to your other Tiktok videos where you are sarcastic and mocking

@Greenblood60

Жыл бұрын

The difference is that this TikToker wasn't spreading falsehoods or misinformation about the Bible. He just had a question.

This question and topic is dissected by St. Augustin in the confessions - wonderful read

@harveywabbit9541

Жыл бұрын

x"And the earth was without form and void." (Gen. 1:2.) Correctly translated, this verse would read: "And the earth in winter is dreary and desolate" (tohu ve bohu). In this rendering I am supported by the Rev. George Bush, a noted American Hebraist (see Science and the Bible, by Rev. H. W. Morris, p. 52). This also makes much for my hypothesis, as the earth in winter is indeed dreary and desolate - dreary, i.e., bloody, in the old sense of the word, in allusion to the color of the dead vegetation at this season; desolate, because of the obliquity of the Sun's rays, as opposed to the insolate, or more direct rays of the sun in summer.

@alanx4121

8 ай бұрын

@@harveywabbit9541 Gen 1:10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

@harveywabbit9541

8 ай бұрын

@@alanx4121 Heaven is all around, but man fails to see. For those living in the southern hemisphere, it's time to plant the crops.

Makes sense God bless

tohu vu bohu (desolate wasteland, empty of life). Consider that Isaiah says God didn't create (bara) is in vain (tohu); Isaiah 45:18. Though many English translations use "was" in Genesis 1:2, hayah is generally used for to become or cause to be; "is" is usually implied in Semitic languages, rather than explicit.

Man I love this stuff!!! tohu and bohu! If I ever own a cafe that’s what I’ll name it 😂

Peter Stoner, author of Science Speaks, says that earth could've started as a dark nebula as nebulas are "formless and void"

Great Interpretation 👍🏼.

Amen Brother🙏🕊️❤️😇✝️😊😀🎉🍷🍞

That would indicate that the “world “while being unproductive and a wasteland existed before putting things in order and craving life during the next six days, resting on the seventh, so then things would be able to be argued that the world itself would be existing prior to Genesis 1:1

Thank you. And GOD BLESS YOU

Excellent

beginning = time, heavens = space, earth = matter in other words everything!

@Dre_Key

6 ай бұрын

And created = energy

OUTSTANDING ❣️

Keep it up. God needs you . Stay strong and teach the world about God. Saving souls . This is life and death

When I read, “…and the earth was without form and void…” I always understood it as the earth was not complete. It was in its earliest stage of just having water on it. No dry land, no life, it was dark, etc. And you can clearly see that just by reading the context.

In French we use the word « Tohu-bohu » to describe a mess or a noisy place but it’s like an old fashioned way of speaking.

I've always wondered how the Lord could move across the waters if it wasn't there. that's a great explanation!

We need a complete I.P. retranslation of the first few chapters

@FlyingSpaghettiJesus

Жыл бұрын

That’s called confirmation bias 😂

@protestant77

Жыл бұрын

SCIENCE CAN EXPLAIN!!! 1 Day = rotation of the planet sunset to sunset is 24 hours! 1 Month = the 30 day moon cycle! 1 Year = the rotation of the earth around the sun 360 days! But there's NO astronomical explanation for a 7 day week cycle🤷🏻‍♂️??????? The HOLY BIBLE is the only accurate explanation for 7 literal 24 hour days for the week!!! As an artist places his signature on his masterpiece in the lower right hand corner after he is done. Truly the 7th day SABBATH is God's signature on creation! 👉(Genesis 2:2,3) 👉(Ezekiel 20:12) JESUS says keep Sabbath POPE says keep Sunday Sabbath = Exodus 20:8-11 Sunday = Mark 7:7 🤔WHO DO YOU OBEY?????

@FlyingSpaghettiJesus

Жыл бұрын

@@protestant77 Troll harder, that was Pathetic 😴

The similarities to the Sumerian creation story is uncanny. The Sumerian gods made canals and planted gardens in a barren world too.

con esa explicación se entiende mejor el significado de desordenada...graciass

Terra formed or fixed a glitch ( swift kick in the backside ).

I love you man!

I think earth in that verse means the material world so yes it includes space because if you notice heaven is made at least twice the material heaven or the firmament is space and the sky its for signs and seasons a representation of the other not seen spiritual heaven.

So tohu wabohu describes the state of the other planets currently.

To make dark wave is it necessary to have a lower pitch vocals ?

Tohou! my weeb friend tried to explain that to me for an hour and I still didn't get it

@Misa_Susaki

Жыл бұрын

lol

@billbadson7598

Жыл бұрын

tl;dr 4 2hu “Magical little girls fight magical monsters who look like little girls for basically no reason using an unreasonable number of glowing magic balls”

@theuniverse5173

Жыл бұрын

You mean touhou

Right because he screwed up the first time and was like oh this isnt right let me fix it .

So where does creation from nothing comes from

have been really thinking about this recently, was wondering if you had any thoughts. if the initial optimally functional design of humans involved the ability and intention to procreate, will there be procreation in the new heavens and new earth? when Christ is asked about the brother who’s brothers all married his wife ( i think marry means to have sex?), he says they will be like the angels in heaven and neither marry nor be given in marriage. is this with regards to procreation, or institutionalized marriage as an idea, or both, or neither?

Was there actually wasteland? It mentions the deep which later was separated from the land which was called earth?

In gen 1:1 earth is matter as in heavens in gen 1:1 is space God later calls the dry ground Earth and calls the firmament Heaven. You must have material like space and matter to form something. Some say gen 1:1 is a summary of the following creation text but that’s also incorrect gen 2:4 is the summary of the creation text.

I like Russell Humphrey’s interpretation which he used to predict the magnetic fields of Neptune and Uranus 10,000x more accurately than the secularists

The earth was

Eh this is missing something here because when God called "Earth" tohuwabohu he hadn't yet created the sky or dry land, so it's not very sensical to designate those "waters" as "what's under our feet." I think rather, in the same way that there are multiple "heavens" (for example, the "vault" which is the sky and the higher, immaterial heaven which is the abode of God and the heavenly host) there are also multiple forms of "Earth." there is earth as in what is below us as opposed to the sky, and there is the "earth" that was "in the beginning" which is essentially all of material creation, as opposed to the spiritual heaven, which without the indwelling of the heavenly light is an unproductive welter and waste, specifically because is it formless and void (because the forms of things are the patterns/logoi contained in the immaterial heaven) To drive this home to say the "earth" in the beginning was space is as inacurate as to say it's the planet earth. It is rather a different category of "thing" which precedes both, the chaotic, formless "waters" of material potential that has not yet been shaped by its creator

Yes, I believe the earth was as any of the other planets, void and without form. We see rocky planets, gaseous planets, or ice planets...the earth also, was similarly void and without form as a water planet. What I find most interesting though, is that we have no way of knowing how long The Spirit brooded over the waters; while He was most likely establishing the foundations of the earth.

Does that imply the millions of years, give or take, that the earth was a lifeless, molten rock?

I understand it to be matter unorganized, and it is organized into an earth.

The word - (was) in that verse should be translated became.

What does it mean when the bible says Cosmos in Greek? When we're ordered to spread God's word.

So what was here before he recreated it? The angels maybe?

Can you square that with Isaiah. When God says he makes nothing void? Just a question. Who is lying? If God doesn't make something disordered then who disordered order? Thank you.

What version of the Bible do you believe in?

I think it is profitable for the souls of apologists to read the newly emerged canonical Hebrew gospels. It illuminates Jesus more than we understand now from the greek recensions

"earth" in genesis was the universe...the name of the planet is is us being pompous...the moon is earth, the planets are earth, hell "space" is earth, our universe is earth. God created it all and heaven is outside us and above us

Yo I have a question. Is their any biblical evidence/interpretation that the human soul exists before birth?

The NRSVue translates it like this: *Genesis 1:1-2* *Six Days of Creation and the Sabbath* When God began to create the heavens and the earth, the earth was complete chaos, and darkness covered the face of the deep, while a wind from God swept over the face of the waters.

@protestant77

Жыл бұрын

SCIENCE CAN EXPLAIN!!! 1 Day = rotation of the planet sunset to sunset is 24 hours! 1 Month = the 30 day moon cycle! 1 Year = the rotation of the earth around the sun 360 days! But there's NO astronomical explanation for a 7 day week cycle🤷🏻‍♂️??????? The HOLY BIBLE is the only accurate explanation for 7 literal 24 hour days for the week!!! As an artist places his signature on his masterpiece in the lower right hand corner after he is done. Truly the 7th day SABBATH is God's signature on creation! 👉(Genesis 2:2,3) 👉(Ezekiel 20:12) JESUS says keep Sabbath POPE says keep Sunday Sabbath = Exodus 20:8-11 Sunday = Mark 7:7 🤔WHO DO YOU OBEY?????

Can you teach me just what is the gospel? Please explain it so that I can understand it.

@MakeNorthKoreaGreatAgain

Жыл бұрын

We have all sinned, we are doomed to hell, but thanks to Gods mercifulness He sent His perfect Son to be crucified for our sins, and whoever accpets Jesus as Lord and Savior will be saved from hell

@daylightsober6138

Жыл бұрын

God created us to love, praise, and have a relationship with him. However, we have all sinned against God. God is perfectly good and holy and because of that He can’t dwell with sinners and he must punish us. Sin separates us from God. Hell is punishment and separation from God. However, God is rich in mercy and came to earth in the flesh as Jesus. Jesus lived a perfect life and died on the cross for our sins so that if we believe in Him we may have eternal life with Him in heaven. We are sure of this because Jesus rose from the dead and defeated sin and death.

@zayobayo2175

Жыл бұрын

God created the universe and us, because He wants to have a family. Otherwise only God exists, because He is the source of everything, nothing exists besides Him. And He wants a family that is not forced into loving Him, but does it freely. God doesn't want sockpuppets, He wants meaningful company and real children. So God gave us free will, and will never infringe upon it, because it defeats the entire point. However, free will means the possibility of sin and evil, which is indeed what we ended up doing with it. And since God is just, wherever there is transgression, there have to be consequences. Otherwise there would be no difference between being good and being evil, if actions did not have consequences. However, God has gracefully decided to take those consequences upon Himself and suffer in our place, so justice may be consummated and restored. That is why Jesus had to die like that - someone had to, for the consequence of sin is death. And in His death, our actions have had their consequence - our sin has indeed lead to death, His death. However, Jesus rose from the dead and is now willing to forgive us, His killers. He has no reason for doing this, other than genuinely wanting to be reconciled with us and have us as His family. He has all the reasons to condemn us, but chooses not to. That is why we are also called to forgive our transgressors, even when we would be justified to condemn

@FlyingSpaghettiJesus

Жыл бұрын

Apparently the only way god could change his opinion about sin was to impregnate a woman with himself, so he could then send himself as a human sacrifice to himself to save humanity from the torment he said we deserved for breaking rules he designed. All the while knowing completely that we weren’t capable of following them to his satisfaction and we would break them anyway. This was the best plan that an Omnipotent Deity could come up with? Great logic.

@dimitartodorov4826

Жыл бұрын

@@FlyingSpaghettiJesus The problem is not God's opinion about sin but the nature of sin. Sin is destructive twisted version of good which brings only pain, suffering and death. Sin is the reason we live in a fallen world filled with terrible things. Thats why Jesus needed to come and condemn sin (Romans 8:1-4) You have a wrong understanding of Christ's redemption of human kind. Christ took all our sins on Himself (He took this evil which sin brings), and by becoming a subject to it overcame it since He is sinless. The way you describe God is more like a pagan angry god needing his sacrifice so he wont kill the humans. Penal substitutionary atonement isnt the only theory of the atonement. Christians sometimes represent God wrongfully by having flaws in some their understandings of God and following man-made traditions. Open your Bible, see how Christ's acts, what He says and know that He is the perfect representative of the True and Living God.

Gen1:1 is talking about the universe. Gen1:2 is changing the View from the universe to the earth. The earth was formless and void.

it actually says, it became void and without form

“When God began to BRUH the heavens and the earth” 😂 I’m so sorry, I couldn’t help it 😁

@lifes_a_gift

2 ай бұрын

bara is the hebrew word for create/ to assign function

IP, I have a question: are you a young earth creationist?

@animalcart4128

Жыл бұрын

He isn't. 1. Was Life Inevitable? kzread.info/dash/bejne/kXxk29F7maWzZdY.html

@fruitbag

Жыл бұрын

He is a Creationist (as in, believes that the universe was created). But he’s not a Young Earth Creationist. Correct me if I’m wrong IP

@animalcart4128

Жыл бұрын

@@fruitbag I fully agree with you.

@slade8863

Жыл бұрын

He’s a Theistic evolutionist

@TheMaskman2005

Жыл бұрын

​@@fruitbag That's technically scientifically true, Because the universe had a beginning.

IP man studies...speaking truth Got to give a 👍 for the true understanding of the bible

The earth was already here in darkness

Still prefer to hold all space, all time, all energy, all matter, and all thought comes from the Will of God through the Word of God being light truth life and the way. Either way it changes not my relationship to YHWH nor to my neighbor.

The biblical language make me think earth was just flat and covered with water only. We don't have lights in the heavens, no dry land or mountains, darkness was all around. God separated the waters, made land and sea, opened the atmosphere to show sun and moon and stars. Yet it didn't rain, only a mist came up from the ground. The atmosphere probably contributed to long life until after the flood and the atmosphere changed when rain started happening. I don't think just saying "unproductive" really captures the vision of an earth, dark and wet with no land that couldn't see the sun, moon, and stars yet.

Does that mean there was an existing Earth before God fix it to be more productive. Much appreciate your help on this.🙏

While what you said is true, it doesn't really answer the confusion the question is trying to understand. Also when God named the earth in Genesis it was referring specifically to the dry land. The thing is the heavens and the earth were created together much like all of mankind was created together when God created Adam. When they were created there was simply water. The heavens (space as well as the atmosphere) were formed when God formed the expanse to separate the waters from one another and then gathered the waters below the expanse together in one place. The waters that were gathered and the land that came forth from those waters together is what we refer to as the planet Earth.

@aidanpaulflemingramsey5950

Жыл бұрын

At least in the English translations, the earth is used in two different contexts in the history of creation, the first time being the planet itself and the second time is the lands

Tohou? Like the game.

"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth". Translation: In the beginning of time God created space and matter. The earth was formless, no atmosphere, empty. Void of life. Uninhabitable.

Sounds scientific than the big bang theory

In Genesis, if we take it to be the creation of all things and the beginning of all things we should read these in a way that assumes a progression of formation. The "Earth" was not yet planet earth. It was described as what it would become, it's formation not coming until day 3. On day 1 God created light, which also required the creation of the mechanism of light. That mechanism is found in the formation of the fundamental particles and laws that bind them. So, when God said, "Let there be light," he was also forming the mechanism for the electromagnetic force, which by extension would be the atom, etc. This is why the term "without form and void" applies to "the earth" which could also be taken as everything physical in nature. So, being without form, it would have no way to have a form without the existence of physical laws to give it any meaningful definition. In that case, H2O would have been impossible, since there was no such thing as positive or negative force prior to that. This is all a necessary extension and consequence of the lack of the existence of the electromagnetic force in the nascent universe. The next issue is that the "expanse" made on the 2nd day was not the atmosphere, it may have been the entirety of the limits of space-time itself. The text seems to indicate so when it describes the stars and the birds both being in the expanse of the heaven, something only possible to the expanse refers to the entirety of space, rather than the atmosphere. (Sorry, to all the canopy idea people out there, at least hiblically, that position is indefensible.) All that to say, day 1 in Genesis 1 most likely did not refer to planet earth, rather, what would later be formed into planet earth and everything else that is made of atoms.

. . . wait a minute. God was working with pre-existing matter??

Same as Jeremiah 4:23 means.... (Earth land....Israel)

But that leads one to believe that there must have been something that caused the earth to be unproductive and therefore people develop theories that there was a creation prior and other unbiblical nonsense. The earth being formless and void IS "unproductive" and a "wasteland". There was no change in meaning, just fancier wording.

The fact that they believe it was created in 6 days is a joke and an insult to the process of creation. When God speaks about the heavens and the earth he is refering to the universe and earth. To say earth was a wasteland is mildly inaccurate as there is a process to creation which we can understand Gods power through science

Wait so I’m confused. Does this “supposedly” go with the Big Bang? Did god make the universe before or during that verse? If before then does that mean the “earth” is the universe? And the heaven is somewhere else? Or if during then the heaven is in the universe? Is the earth being formless and whatnot about the ACTUAL earth and how it had no life??? So many questions and I’m fully lost. Is it saying the heaven and earth were made instantly. Wtf

Can you please answer this. God made vegetation then when earth was made there was no wild plants or grains. Is this a contradiction

in the beginning, god remodeled the heavens and the earth.

Yah, but what about space and time, how does God make heaven and earth before time and space. Does heaven mean space and time.

Day 2 of asking IP to respond to Dawah over Dunya!!!!!

@Zuperlion74

Жыл бұрын

I think you have you tag IP in his videos comments.

Void is a Judicial term

i cant tell if the first person is male, female, young or old

This translation sounds like it challenges the idea that God created everything, as if the wasteland was existed before God first created anything.

@joshua-l6m

Жыл бұрын

The formless and void part is right after it says God created the Earth

@FlyingSpaghettiJesus

Жыл бұрын

@@joshua-l6m And your evidence to support your assertion is what exactly? Something your story book says?

Earth simply means land

So what you're saying is the word replenish actually means just that

So, it is possible that the Earth is 4 billion years old. God never wastes but had a point to make with the Devil. Grabbed some tohu and bohu and went to town.

Earth was probably lifeless like other planets. Earth is now different because we are special and unique, just how God intended us to be.

Can't believe the Hebrews hate Reimu

My question is did God create earth? Or when he created earth he then gave it a purpose

@saucyswipe

Жыл бұрын

Im pretty sure the Bible begins when God gave the Earth a purpose, not before that. But i could be wrong.

777.

I have a Question: Why does God not forgive Satan?

@agis230

Жыл бұрын

Satan will not repent. His heart is wickedness through and through. There's absolutely no love in him.

It was a place where all the other planets waste and space junk was magnetically drawn to...God stopped the chaos and made it good.

So, God didn't create matter? It seems this opens more questions than answers

Revelation 1:8 Jesus says he is the OMEGA Before creation and before anything that was "ever made" or "created" Jesus was not Created. But Created everything. God is One One Will One Purpose God is Holy The Almighty Now Your ready to become a born again Christian today! Truth is in Bible Corruption is in the Qur'an

Good question because it means that The Lord God created something before the Heavens and the Earth

Aaahhhhh.....it means welter! What does welter mean? 😳