So, basically, what you’re saying is, the driver is hypothetically, for the sake of argument, literally me.

@devileshsona2556

Жыл бұрын

Fr

@Lalito44

Жыл бұрын

He’s literally a Real Human Being and a Real Hero.

@officaldlz

5 ай бұрын

Real

@officaldlz

5 ай бұрын

@@Lalito44I’m literally a Real Human Being And A Real Hero

@PickedFirst4Kickball

4 ай бұрын

... W...

Gotta say I completely disagree with your point at about 7:30. Driver isn't posturing or trying to steal Irene or do anything but what he thinks is best for her. Even if that means allowing her to be with Standard instead of him. He doesn't defend himself/his ego at all when Standard starts questioning if he's been coming around. Driver just politely confirms while clearly wanting to leave. Later when Standard gets beaten up, Driver could have easily told Irene and disintegrated their relationship. But he doesn't because that would be underhanded and self serving. Instead he offers his services to Standard for free in order to get their family out of harms way. With no intention of engaging in violence to do so. And when they're at the pawn shop he can tell Standard is nervous so he assures him by saying "I'll see you in five minutes." Standard then postures acting as if he's unafraid. I know this is a long comment. But your point is completely contrary to how the character is portrayed both in performance and narrative. And misses how Driver is vastly different to traditional stoic characters like Clint Eastwood, and instead reinvents the archetypal character. I appreciate the work you put into this, but I think your focus on specifically exploring theasculinity angle warped your interpretation of specific moments throughout the film and caused you to miss the point/intention in some cases.

@ItsGregKon

3 жыл бұрын

That's an interesting perspective, thanks for sharing. There's definitely something to the Driver using these stoic archetypes and trying to reinvent them. I still think that he doesn't necessarily reinvent those archetypes. Despite his good intentions, he ends up repeating certain toxic traits. I could have strengthened my point at 7:30 in retrospect though. Whether the Driver is posturing or not, the fact that the two men in the scene act like they know what's best for Irene definitely says something about their expression of masculinity. The purpose of this video is a very narrow interpretation of the film. By no means is this definitive, so it's nice to see comments like yours that can back up a different interpretation😊 Thanks!

@codytierson845

3 жыл бұрын

@@ItsGregKon Thanks for understanding the intention of my comment. I do thi k you've done a good job interpreting it through that lens, and you are right to point out your analysis is not meant to be definitive. Always appreciate finding another Refn fan, and considering the characters in OGF AND Too Old To Die Young are far more troubled. I would be VERY interested to hear your thoughts on those projects in the future.

@mundanemorselsmundanemorse7028

Жыл бұрын

Glad I saw this comment. I thought this was obvious to the character but I guess not (and not trying to be a jerk as I’ve missed plenty of obvious angles in movies myself).

@nigelfrancis1706

Жыл бұрын

I really like Tony Zhou’s analysis of this scene (he looks at quadrants used in framing in his KZread channel everyframeapainting). He agrees with the essay’s interpretation because both Standard and The Driver occupy the same quadrant (top left) because they compete for the same spot. It’s a really worth checking out.

@pedroclaro7822

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, I once made an analysis focused on masculinity and it ended up distorting my view of the film to a completely different story.

Yep. This is one of The Greatest Films Ever Made.

@ItsGregKon

3 жыл бұрын

It is really special.

@kameronbasseri1953

Жыл бұрын

SAY IT TWICE ✌️

Thank you for this essay. I feel a lot of men can relate to the Driver by also being conflicted about emotions.

@collybeans586

2 жыл бұрын

How do you feel that??

@ArtoriasStormcock

Жыл бұрын

Literally every person in the world is conflicted about emotions at some point of his or her life.

@Lilbuckets2

8 ай бұрын

@@ArtoriasStormcock lmao right??

@somethingelse04

Ай бұрын

@@Lilbuckets2 Men the most. That's the point. If you can't understand that you're part of the problem

Great analysis! Although, I beg to differ on Irene's slap motive. It wasn't solely about the patriarchal figure showing his weakness. Irene had hoped for Driver to be different because he grew to be more emotionally open around her, but he resorted to lying, scheming, and jeopardizing their relationship to 'get the job done'. When men do this, it sidelines women to mere prizes, instead of friends/partners you SHOULD communicate with. To Irene, Driver was no different from Standard, he was just a standard man. As much as there are women who want a patriarchal man, there are many who just want a genuine emotional connection.

I think the movie is mainly about Driver wanting something else, the love from a frog felt to so good it made him forget about everything else and to protect his frogs he reluctantly understood that the boys father was a frog and he chose to protect his frogs as an act of self redemption, love and selflessness.

@lukethekuya

3 жыл бұрын

Yep. What I thought so too. Something more than crime, a good life and true love.

As a man who finds himself at a crossroads in the controversy that is masculinity, I found myself strangely attracted to the way this movie depicts the topic in a contemplative and stoic manner. It's about a man who isn't as verbally and physically toxic as the alpha males around him, opting for the "strong and silent" stereotype. While typically fit for antihero characters, he walks a fine line between toxicity and benevolence. Despite having a much more stoic and alluring demeanor in a sense, he finds himself to be just as bad of an influence to Irene and Benicio as Standard was, and in the end finds himself unable to deal with the situation, so he opts out. The most common desire for men is to be in control. What seperates the Driver from overtly masculine men like Nino or Bernie is the fact that he gains control by not adhering to the norms in the way people think he should respond to them, but loses his grip when his ego is damaged. He wants to stay with Irene and Benicio because that is what his feelings tell him is right, but it is logically too dangerous for everyone involved, so he has to leave them and start anew. What a typically masculine person would do is stay with them and fight off anyone who threatens their family, but that is what he is trying to stay away from, so he has to leave them and start anew. You could say Irene and Benicio are a metaphor for a man's desire to fit into a role of patriarchy, as they embody what brings a traditional man joy.

@bryson0206

Жыл бұрын

beautiful

@lastmanstanding7155

10 ай бұрын

You'd also have to consider that "stereotypical" isn't him. It's his nature to be who he is. So he just can't be the normal man. It's not necessarily a rejection of that life but a pragmatic solution to a problem. It's also a very man like answer to give. Just some food for thought.

The driver goes through different phases throughout the movie: First he turns away from crime when he meets Irene thanks to her influence on him. He wants to change and so does not accept the getaway job. Thanks to this he becomes closer to Irene and her child and starts on a path that would allow him to open up and be a good father figure. However, next, Standard returns home and the driver finds out the trouble he and his family are in. He feels a sense of duty toward their family and hopes that by going back for one last job they will all be safe. Unfortunately, this is when Standard is shot and they are betrayed, showing that violence and crime are vicious cycles that are difficult to break out of. Then, he tries to do things their way, the way the gangsters do it, by attacking two of his powerful enemies and even killing one. The other man he kills in the elevator is again him feeling a sense of duty: he has no choice. This puts him in a position where he realizes he has become like his enemies instead of changing for the better with Irene. He is a danger to her because of his actions. He knows this, so he agrees to the deal with his final enemy to give him the money in exchange for her safety, buying her a way out that he can no longer access. Finally, he does things his way, the way he was at the start of the movie. He does not return to Irene, and he does not resort to gangster violence, he just drives. I really like your analysis, however, there are many moments in the film where it is expressed that he is a victim of circumstance. He almost changes, he almost gets out, he almost becomes a villain. For fear of becoming and for fear of hurting, he instead reverts to what he was before: an isolated nobody. This is his duty, he has no choice but to isolate or he will hurt the people he loves.

I drive (I’m literally Ryan Gosling) (I’m literally The Driver From Drive 2011)

Why did she slap him? She was angry that both he and her baby daddy, were involved in the shit that got baby daddy killed. But was that really a shock? What did she think these men were? To be fair, any new information as emotional as that, would be a shock and I bet she was hoping things would turn out better.

Impressed with the inclusion of bell hooks.

@ItsGregKon

3 жыл бұрын

She's one of the greats, can't get enough of her work

what the Fuck you're criminally underrated one of the best video essay I've seen

@ItsGregKon

Жыл бұрын

thanks for watching! Appreciate it

Your definition of patriarchy is the first one I have heard that does not innately attack men, and in some sense actually empowers them. Very interesting and well said

@ItsGregKon

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Definitely recommend reading bell hooks' book "The Will to Change" (cited all over this video). Completely changed my view on the term patriarchy.

@richytheking1315

2 жыл бұрын

@@ItsGregKon I’ll have to check it out, been reading through Simone de Beauvoir’s Second Sex for class so might as well go all out lol. Actually talked about your quote in class since I found it relevant.

@crimsonbladewielder1975

Жыл бұрын

It’s too bad average conversation involving patriarchy or masculinity always ends up slandering men from my observation

@richytheking1315

Жыл бұрын

@@crimsonbladewielder1975 Yeah, thats why I avoided engaging with them for so long because they felt so alienating as concepts. But I would encourage to continue to look and find those people who don’t use them as points of contention and instead as ways to connect and reach out. You don’t have to agree with the conclusions but I still think its worthwhile to consider ourselves and our place within our culture.

@memesouls8653

9 ай бұрын

@@crimsonbladewielder1975 True. I mean I get there are issues to the “patriarchy” and how men should “act” different to stop being so emotionally detached, but those traits are what make men MEN. I find it ironic that the Patriarchy is always under fire and the role of men in society is always in question but in a world that is arguably much more dominated by women than ever before why isn’t anyone questioning the issues they bring to society? Materialistic, belittling? I’m not going to sit here and say that those are all inherently bad, but I find it one sided that men now are always the ones judged and told not to be the typical man but instead be something else which is only causes more and more men to become devoid of their emotions. That’s where the point the author makes in the book about how the patriarchy is what makes men “stoic, uncaring, etc.” falls flat. Modern society always tells men to conform to the idea that you are not allowed to be masculine, but yet we all still strive to be. It’s part of our DNA. 11 year old boys already begin to show signs of that without even knowing the concept of the “patriarchy” or masculinity.

Very well developed analysis! I am citing you and this video in an IB film assignment

@ItsGregKon

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, best of luck on your assignment!

I like how you broke this down smart human

@ItsGregKon

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Mister Wick

Fantastic video, loved it. Just rewatched Drive for the first time since it came out, even better this time.

This was epic. And man had no idea Ryan gosling choose the director. That’s such a cool fact. Great choice by gosling

This needs more views, love it

@ItsGregKon

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, that's so kind! Feel free to share it around, that's the best way for more people to see it 😃

Wow. Awesome reflections. Subscribed!

Excellent analysis!

did not realise bell hooks had a film review channel

great essay as always !

@ItsGregKon

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

This was a pretty awesome in-depth analysis. I never watched the movie, but now I want to

@Sagegeir

Жыл бұрын

yea, you should:)

Thank you for your analysis, it help me to do my own video essay eheh

@ItsGregKon

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching 😊 Yay! I'm glad someone got some use out of it. Let me know how that goes!

@marcusaasjensen

4 жыл бұрын

@@ItsGregKon ;)

Great analysis of a brilliant film

Hey great video! I really liked a lot of your points and I think it’s real cool how Drive can be interpreted in a lot of ways. In my opinion, I thought the driver was more socially awkward rather then stoic. To me Gosling’s performance portrayed a very conflicted character who wants to communicate and make connections but due to his upbringing is unable to as he is now disconnected from the world. To him the only thing he has is driving and sadly, despite trying to get away from it, violence. This I think puts him in the archetype role of the drifter like in western films, a disconnected individual with no ties to anything. I think the film does a good job to not romanticize the archetype and show that it’s actually really tragic. I also think the main theme of the film is how our world views those who are “bad.” This I think can be seen with the sharks analogy, which I took more literally. Sharks are animals that don’t adhere to our morals and aren’t really bad, typically just minding their own business. But once a shark attacks a human, this social perception points to the animal as being bad or evil. The same can be seen with people like the driver, who despite their intentions, are framed by their violent nature, which they aren’t received help for but just simply called bad and are outcasted from society. This leads to the one disagreement I have with your video and that’s your interpretation of the ending. I think the driver does change by the ending. Right before entering the elevator, the driver tells Irene that he was helping Standard and then offers to run away with her and with the money. She then slaps him because I think she thought the driver was not like Standard. Standard was a man like driver who was driven by his violent nature, and ultimately dragged his family into harms away because of it despite caring for them. It’s after the elevator stomping, when Irene looks on in horror at drivers violent tendencies that the driver becomes self aware. He realizes he is just like Standard, a man driven by a violent nature that despite caring for the people he loves, ultimately endangers them due to his nature. So the driver at the end of the film realizes this and decides to ultimately leave Irene and the money, drifting away, because despite his desire for attachment he knows his nature will hurt the ones he loves so he decides to be a “real hero” by leaving. Ultimately I see the ending still as tragic though as ultimately the driver is unable to get help or understanding for who he really is but he leaves at least a bit more self aware of who he is.

@ItsGregKon

2 жыл бұрын

This is a great read! I can totally see your interpretation, I like it. Thanks for sharing 😊

theses Videos here on YT are a blessing!

@ItsGregKon

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed 😊

There's actually one more song that you didn't really touch upon, it's "Oh My Love", and I was actually curious about your opinion on its meaning. Nonetheless, the video was really interesting. I already love the movie as it is, but your analysis made me appreciate its ideas and storytelling even more, thank you very much. ^^

@ItsGregKon

3 жыл бұрын

It's been a while since I've thought about it, but from what I remember I took it as relating to theme of the "nature" of man throughout. I'm happy you liked the video, thanks for watching 😊

Cried multiple times. Literally me perpetuating violence

I really appreciate your essay on this film, despite it being several years old now. I am not well-versed in Refn films, but this film has stuck with me for a long time.

this is a really well made video

amazing analysis

I have no clue if you still respond to comments, but I have a question. This video has me pretty twisted up, as it's the first I guess you could say "palatable" exploration of this topic I've sat through, much less enjoyed. You did a great job of explaining what everything is and isn't, and how it related to the film, but I feel very conflicted. I've cut a lot of people out my life that weren't good for my mental health, and I've been spending most days alone. I've also grown to idealize that classic action hero/protector archetype, but throughout the whole transformation, I've felt more in touch with my feelings, and even my insecurities, and I've felt much more confident in my own skin. After all, the version of me from a year or two ago likely wouldn't have been able to watch this video. On my viewing of this movie, I actually thought it had a happy ending, and I almost certainly looked up to the protagonist. I guess my point is that as I seem to be drifting towards some of the hallmarks of toxic masculinity, and I still can't help but look up to the driver, I'm more in touch with my feelings than ever. I feel like I'm missing something either about the movie, or about myself. I understand I shouldn't come to KZread looking for therapy, but I figured you are somewhat educated on the topic, or at the very least read a damn good book by someone who certainly is. P.S. Great video and analysis. P.P.S. People who aren't the uploader, feel free to share your opinions/interpretations too.

@ItsGregKon

3 жыл бұрын

This is really interesting and I appreciate that you've shared your feelings on the topic. Considering that you seem secure and comfortable in your emotions, as well as willing to share them, I get the impression that your expression of masculinity isn't toxic (at least not right here). Physical isolation and cutting toxicity out of your life isn't a bad thing, at least not in the way you've described it. I think one of the key things that a culture of toxic masculinity teaches us as boys is to cut ourselves off from expressing emotional vulnerability. Your willingness to reflect and express that here, with a stranger, doesn't strike me as toxic. I also think that there's room to interpret this movie as having a happy ending. That's not how I saw it personally, but your take on it could absolutely be valid. I'm not an expert by any means and I don't know you or your life. But I do have experience in what our culture tries to turn us into. If you're looking for more ways to explore this topic and reflect on it, I highly recommend bell hooks' book. It was one of the first pieces of feminist literature that made me feel seen and understood. Thanks for opening up and sharing here. It means a lot to me that this work is prompting reflection😊

@squillen

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, sincerely. Excellent video and excellent response. Keep on doing what you do.

@codytierson845

3 жыл бұрын

Just wanted to add something. There is a difference between Solitude and Isolation/loneliness. Many traits of men's behavior are learned, but many are also inherent. Toxicity often stems from an unhealthy version of an otherwise healthy attitude or behavior. Being alone isn't bad. But closing yourself off to others can be. Wanting to protect those you care about isn't bad. Reducing them to an object which needs you to be their sole savior is. Fight Club is a great example of this. It starts out as healthy and innocent fun. A group activity like a sport that allows men a space to release their emotions in a healthy and consensual way that plays into their natural desire to engage with Aggression (which is inherent). But it becomes an issue when they allow it to consume their life and become a replacement for their personality. It is not wrong to look up to Driver. Do not feel bad for being yourself. No one and nothing is perfect. But don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

@squillen

3 жыл бұрын

@@codytierson845 That was an excellent read, thanks for writing that. I really couldn’t agree more. This video was a real discussion-starter for me, and the discussion landed basically right on what you were saying. I wish more people could be exposed to an idea as important as this one with the same lack of judgement I’ve gotten here. Thanks again, both of you. Because of this video and these comments, I feel like a better person and better man than I ever have before. There’s still work to be done, but at least I’ve been able to better calibrate my moral compass for whatever comes next. Have a great one.

I would have loved the film to be a critique of the patriarchy. But i don’t think it is about that.The film confuses revenge w heroism. The director saying that he wanted to create « a masculine hero who protects women » without anyone actually questioning how is Irene being protected says a lot. Irene never asked for revenge. He assumed it was what she needs.Killing more bag guys is actually endangering her. The 2 women roles are just tokens for the male narratives. Some online articles argued the film lacked depth: i agree.It could have pushed it further, make a more constructed critique of patriarchy. But the director literally refused to give more analysis ( according to the interview you shown in your video). The fact that the artistic leaders on the film are most exclusively male is also an issue. I share your interpretation (and this video is the only critique i have seen highlighting patriarchy) but all these problems make me believe that making a feminist comment was just not intended.

great vid

Great analysis of the film. I've always seen Drive as being against toxic masculinity and it saddens me to see that a lot of young men on the internet have taken Gosling's character as a role model I was surprised to see the low number of views. Your video really felt high quality. At least you've got a new sub

@ItsGregKon

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for the kind words and the sub! Glad you enjoyed the essay 😊 Toxic masculinity is a topic I put a lot of thought into and Drive is one of those movies that perfectly encapsulates it. There are more videos coming down the pipeline soon, though I can't guarantee the quality will be as high, haha.

@dopemango4653

3 жыл бұрын

There is no such thing as toxic masculinity it’s just being toxic

Brilliant essay about the movie, I've learned a lot about it and you've also shed some light on things that I was only suspecting. There is one thing in your essay I would like to discuss which is the idea that the main character embodies the violent masculinity of the patriarchy. In the first part he is involved in crime but never in the violent side of it because he never carries a gun and never picks a fight with anyone, even with the police that was chasing him. He is isolated and unable to connect with people, for sure, but he only starts engaging in violence when the "violent man" is released from prison and after witnessing the horrors of murder. The fact that he trembles in the last part while never flinching in the first is because the system of patriarchy forces him into becoming "the scorpion". I would go even further and say that his innability to connect is because he is afraid of being dragged into a role he doesn't want but is being destined to have. So in a way he is the frog carrying the scorpion and eventually shares the same fate. But the music is one thing I never noticed and thank you for bringing this up in your essay

What a work of art. 😊

Great job. I've seen as an adult how I was raised to b a man. Emotions simply not allowed. Expressing vulnerability not allowed. And it can crush a man from the inside out. And it definitely hinders relationships with women. Does the woman want sensitivity or will that b a turnoff? The lack of men being able to express feelings honestly has been a huge detriment to society. But how do u do what u don't know how to do? Fathers have been raising sons to put on the tough guy act for centuries.

I wonder anyone ever mentioned the dressing room scene where the driver attacks Cook. The cinematographic setting of the naked women is very symbolic, in regards to masculinity. It even reminds me of a clockwork orange.

i realized driver was the embodyment of egoism and everyone around him were just tools for him to feel good about himself - when he offers freshly widowed irene to run away with him and have happy ending together. i thought - damn this guy has some brass on his chin. only exception to his sociopathic behaviour would be shannon, since it's the only time driver allows himself to openly cry death of a friend. however i think unlike other masculine characters, deep down driver realizes he neither deserves or have happy ending although still gives it a try no matter how pathetic the attempt is and that's what makes him a real human being.

Your definition of masculinity was heartening however I disagreed when you called masculine traits traditional and arbitrary. They are traditional because they serve the role for which men were naturally selected. Which means there is nothing arbitrary about them. On the contrary they are necessary. In modern society it may not be obvious why violence and the ability to ignore pain are necessary because we have outsourced our necessity to be capable of violence to organizations like the police and military. We have erected a thin veil of security based on rules and manners but if times get tough we need men like The Driver around. Society has become complacent and ungrateful for the sacrifices good men have made.

@loloabyu

5 ай бұрын

Because he is a beta guy indoctrinated by cultural marxism rubbish

Great essay! But I strongly disagree with your assessment of The Jacket, sir. It's the coolest looking jacket in the whole history of jacketry!

Thank you Greg for giving a better perspective on this film that I didn’t quite understood why I enjoyed it back then when it first came out . A movie like Drive can still do good even without the fluff that Hollywood tends to do over the top with majority of their action films with their explosions or computer FX. Is it ok to say this? Long live positive roles of patriarchy!

Decent video. But the girl representing purity? She's straight up cheating on her husband who's in prison. It's probably the one thing turning me off from taking her seriously. Also I feel like you're way too fixated on the idea of patriarchy and because of that completely miss any further depth to the character of the driver.

@frances1227

Ай бұрын

Yeah, on her husband WHOS IN PRISON, we dont get enough backstory to really know what there relationship is actually like, so i dont know if i would class it as cheating (at least I wouldn’t anyway)

Appreciate your commentary and insights on this movie that I also enjoy, especially from a perspective that I can never truly relate to. And, yes, women absolutely reinforces that idea of patriarchal masculinity; we are not innocents in this toxicity. Your breakdown of the music used in this film made me wonder if that same intention was behind the choice of the cursive font and color (pink) of the film title. As someone who loves a well-designed poster, the graphics of this film really caught my eye. Definitely a thought-provoking visual detail that adds so much to the undertone of this film, imo. A few years late, but thanks for making this video.

top 4 favorite movies

genius essay

This is the exactly the video I was looking for, just watched the video titled “the movie incels love the most” hoping it would express how this movie is so relatable. I was disappointed to say the least, just seeing the video and reading the comments made me disillusioned. It seemed nobody was there to actually talk about the character, and the guy basically called it a watered down version of Taxi Driver lol. In a way it felt like everyone was proving the movie right, and making your analysis on patriarchal thinking true.

There is nothing in this movie which would lead me to suspect a "larger power structure" which has "stunted" anybody. Everyone seems to express his or her _nature,_ purely and directly. Whom you can or can't relate with demonstrates your inclination, whether chosen or inherited. The story is too "existentialist" to be a "social commentary", as the action rests so heavily upon the choices which these characters make in a vacuum. They're not children; they are adults. This is why one cannot speak of them as "stunted" in a neo-Freudian sense. They've internalized their roles and been "adjusted" to Society, and all that's left is watching how those roles express themselves or change within a conflict. No one is the "victim" here, much less of the Society; (for how can there be such a thing?) they _are_ Society, or, rather, agents operating in it, as it. *[({M.M.)}]*

The definition and meanings on the Internet have been changed I have 4 hard copy dictionaries and 2 thesauruses, go find a old dictionary,, masculinity isn't toxic patriarchy isn't a evil word ,, man or female can be toxic

A man willing to do anything for the women he loves? I believe we have roles in life and biologically . The thing that turns bad is when men or women abuse it. Women and Men are equal beings however they fit different roles. A women is probably going to be better at being a care taker or managing a business or somthing that takes alot of organization and ability to handle this type of mental stress. A man is suppose to be hard working. His body is suppose to handle physical stress. Men are also suppose to handle emotional stress. Of course men are suppose to find a way to handle emotion's but I think we handle them in other ways than crying or such stuff. Of course men cry if something tragic has happend like losing a mother or somthing but I believed to handle the stress of taking care of loved ones we should find somthing that we enjoy. Sometimes men have to be violent it is just life. I dont really see it as a patriarchy.

One needs to be masculin so one can recognize what this movie says about masculinity.

@tvistan_N

2 ай бұрын

This a fr ass comment u a smart dude who notices that stuff

Literally me.

Bravo Wingding.

I'm not sure about your thoughts on toxic masculinity; especially in regard to the Driver. I think the film is more saying this is a cruel world and those who want to do good will have to fight evil. And no matter how much you try to run from it, the stains of violence don't come off. Men are dangerous and the only way to protect the innocent is to be more dangerous.

I always tought about this movie as the driver wanting to get more in touch with his human emotions, hes clearly (despite his calm and collected nature) a very violent killer who wont hesitate to put down his enemies if threatened, and to that i would point fingers to the elevator scene, where he grabs Irene and then kisses her, as a way of showing his true feelings in case the guy in the suit next to him manages to kill him, luckily that didnt happen, the outcome of the situation was a very scared and confused Irene and a bloody corpse with an stomped head. I think the ending is neutral, he got to explore a side of himself through creating lasting memories with Irene and Benicio, but knows that in order to put an end to who ever is causing him trouble and to seek revenge for Shannon, (its not clearly stated but you can assume he had a lot of respect and admiration for him) he must snap back into violence, this time wearing a mask to represent his transformation, he realized how dirty it must feel to go from spending time with Irene to breaking someones fingers with a claw hammer. He wants himself and us the viewers to percieve the violent and gory acts he commits as works of someone entirely different. The Driver didnt have this need before meeting Irene and Benicio.

Literary me

Great video essay man. Don’t even give attention to the clowns trying to knock you for your voice or looks. They obviously missed the point of your video and the theme of the movie. Overall great video though 👍🏻

He's like me fr fr

is bro restarted/ driver got slapped due to circumstance in which he tried pursuing her/ not because of the patriarchy

Bien

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@ItsGregKon

Жыл бұрын

Sorry! I didn't put them there, KZread claimed the video and controls the ads.

@flaneurdosul

Жыл бұрын

Nice video tho

Ты музыку в видосе погромче делай в следующий раз, а то ничего не слышно!

Violence wouldn't be needed in a perfect world. But we don't live in a perfect world. Feminist perspectives on patriarchy often ignore the narural aspects of male aggression and physical strength. Patriarchy isn't the cause for violence. Conflict is a natural part of life. Men are only assigned, because of their biological predisposition, to bear the burden of physical conflict.

I’ve gotta say I disagree with the concept that patriarchy and the distance from emotion inherently hurts men. Women often assume men need to be more emotional but a strong man cannot be too emotional. Being completely unemotional makes you weaker and often times dangerous, but the other extreme has the same consequences. Being aware and in touch with your emotions while also being able to shut them off is what men need.

I appreciate the work you put into this, but maybe you should have focused the question of work a little bit better For instance, "Video Essay | How 'The Will To Change' by Bell Hooks Can explain male characters in the movie 'Drive' " -- because you base all of your premise on understanding "male patriarchy" on this book by Bell Hooks offering no counterpoint as though you believe this is the *only* answer. There is nothing wrong with that, but I'm just saying you could have edited the beginning of the video and the overall premise to focus on this more. The movie is a masterpiece, but ultimately I think maybe you dwell way too deep on the characters. Every character is based on a trope, so there isn't anything deep about the characters. What makes it shine though is we get to see a film from the point of view of a villain who decides to become a hero. We as the watchers secretly are fighting to see if he can make that transition. It was a well done interpretation of the Scorpion and the Frog. I think you had an interesting point about if the Driver is the scorpion or the frog in the movie. A friend of mine and I discussed the idea that he could be both having transitioned between the roles in the movie, but after years and having watched the movie many times since I'm firm in that he's the Scorpion. His compassion or lack or there of doesn't quite matter because what you basically learn is that while he seems benevolent, he knows that he's ultimately the Scorpion and knows what he is. We see this throughout the film and his interior breaks free with his discussion with the guys brother at the diner where he threatens him, the fight in the elevator, and then finally when he breaks down to attack the men after them up until his need to finally fight the antagonist. He ram off his love interest because he knew that she wouldn't want to be with the man he is on the inside and that at the end of the day, the Scorpion is what he is and he knew that he'd have to become him no matter what. Excellent film and pretty easy introductory premise to discuss for people who like to deep-dive into films because everything is surface level and extremely basic with almost no depth.

If anything making videos like this is toxic

why am i completely unsurprised at the pitch of the voice of a guy who talks about "toxic masculinity" and "patriarchy"

@ItsGregKon

Жыл бұрын

I like my voice. Thanks for watching!

@pmode

10 ай бұрын

He explained it in a way that actually shows both sides of it. It was actually refreshing to hear patriarchy explained as being empowering but also isolating. It depends on the situation and your natural instincts. If all you have to complain about is the guy’s voice then stfu

patriarchy - i'm italian we invented this shit - means a form of society organization where people follow a gerarchy, in the family the father have gerarchy and sometimes express himself like this as a copy mechanism. But we need a new specific term for the effects of this perpetual on the society, patriarchy as you use it is very interpretative and your view. it doesn't mean is wrong, just the same world can mean so many different interpretation today.

Whatever, it's a great movie. Women need men.

@ItsGregKon

3 жыл бұрын

We all need each other! The point here is that nobody needs toxicity😊

@TheDRODOR

3 жыл бұрын

You don't like thinking?

@monketstyling

3 жыл бұрын

@@ItsGregKon So women aren't toxic, society is not toxic? Men sometimes just need to do what they have to do, life is not a bed of roses. Everyone wishes it was but human nature doesn't let it be

@ItsGregKon

3 жыл бұрын

@@monketstyling Nope, everyone can be toxic. This piece is specifically about masculine toxicity though

@monketstyling

3 жыл бұрын

@@ItsGregKon masculine is not toxic it's just what it is, what about feminine toxicity? Every individual can be toxic, male or female. I don't think female behavior even towards each other is exactly saintly.

Wow, that's a lot of words. Too bad I'm not reading them.

Yawn

G. A. F???

A not very masculine looking guy giving advice on masculinity

@ItsGregKon

Жыл бұрын

Not advice, it's a close reading. How did you become a whole ass adult concerned with a stranger being "masculine looking" lol

cringe.

@ItsGregKon

2 жыл бұрын

true, and the anime pfp is the cringe expert

Yep he’s literally me