We did our first collaboration with our friends at Verge Science to explore how at-home DNA tests are putting everyone at risk. Check out their video here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aaVsscNyZ8SWZMo.html

@HahtaanDaetori

5 жыл бұрын

Great Video! I can't wait for more collaborations in the future

@viviiscool2239

5 жыл бұрын

Vox owo cool!

@tyrannosaurus62

5 жыл бұрын

Everything i knew about my DNA is a LIE!! LOL jk but thank you for the insight. Very informative.

@Ugly_German_Truths

5 жыл бұрын

I like that the actual video title is not the least bit clickbaity.... and then you went and wrote THIS summary... yeah. Sure.

@joaoteixeira3202

5 жыл бұрын

Insightful videos like these are the best vox has to offer. I'm really satisfied with this one, thanks for your hard work

I found out 50% of my dna came from my mother. They couldn’t pin down the other 50%, but I’ve got a pretty good idea.

@aradhyasharma6483

5 жыл бұрын

@nPlatin LMAO

@mlc4495

5 жыл бұрын

The milkman?

@ALRIGHTYTHEN.

5 жыл бұрын

The plumber actually.

@schurup2994

5 жыл бұрын

@nPlatin SWEET HOME ALABAMA

@jaded8578

4 жыл бұрын

it came from your uncle

My DNA test results just came out and I'm proud to say that I'm from the surface of the Earth.

@theespatier4456

5 жыл бұрын

Kevin Luo Way to piss off the dungeon dwellers, mate!

@puncheex2

5 жыл бұрын

...and in a few more generations of mixing, that is all that this ethnic testing will be able to tell you.

@copypaste3526

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah we cavedwellers have it ruff.

@bogusparasite6655

5 жыл бұрын

do you really though?

@faithallen7993

5 жыл бұрын

I’m proud of you bro 😤😤

I just took a DNA test, turns out I'm 100% tired

@blackberry8615

4 жыл бұрын

Grey Ang same

@aarianmalhotra7440

4 жыл бұрын

Same

@Julianna.Domina

3 жыл бұрын

same

@bradleykovach8857

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@zeep6195

3 жыл бұрын

same

Are you trying to tell me woah wicky isn’t black 😤

@Nobody-11B

5 жыл бұрын

It sounds like he's trying to tell us she is...

@lololmanidek

5 жыл бұрын

I laughed out loud

@sebrands

5 жыл бұрын

In a multiethnic country race tends to be of importance to people.

@trinitikorneli2750

5 жыл бұрын

For the blacks is "They are blacks". But for the whites is "They are blacks too". It's just anti white activity based on pure hate against the whites.

@SumDumGai5

4 жыл бұрын

@@sebrands Only important to weirdos.

My DNA test came I’m 13.4% lamborgini and 86.6% honda civic

@ARiHotep

4 жыл бұрын

Lovedeep Brar 😂😂😂😂🤣

@jimmytimmy3680

4 жыл бұрын

Ricer

@sihaammohamed4280

3 жыл бұрын

wow congrats

@emmychou4790

3 жыл бұрын

wOwzERs

@useless6510

3 жыл бұрын

cause of the scissor doors man smh

So those test kits won't tell me if I'm related to royalty from the 1600's? Well then screw that

@sasset-uk1987

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve just found my 25th great grandfather Robert the Bruce King of Scotland

@jessk3735

2 жыл бұрын

@@melindad3643 that's hard because sadly there's no much info (at least on Google) even if you search your mother's/father's or grandparent's name. For old documents they're not digitally accessible

Don't kill my hopes of deluding myself that I'm 0.000001 viking

@dantan1249

4 жыл бұрын

i feel like people only mention vikings within the context of being genetically related to them.

@jonathanm877

4 жыл бұрын

10% woooooooo

@UneEtincelleNocturne

4 жыл бұрын

Viking was a job, not an ethnicity, so unless you also consider yourself 12% secretary and 0.5% McDonald's employee...

@bookmilla8616

4 жыл бұрын

My mom got 80% Scandinavian, so basically shes probably a viking queen

@rhys3350

4 жыл бұрын

@Lukas Specifically the term Viking applies only to Scandinavian raiders, as the word itself is Old Norse in origin, pretty much the entire world had "Vikings" just they're not called that because they weren't Norse pagans.

I did the test to see if I was adopted, something I have suspected all my life. Found out my dad was not my dad. AncestryDNA also listed a half sister and a slew of half nieces and nephews. These tests can give you very accurate info. It just depends what you want from them.

@dinsel9691

4 жыл бұрын

I was hoping these tests would explain to people how to best interpret the info... Instead we had them preach to us how we should not believe dna tests.. that all people are the same.. there is no difference between chinese and africans.. because racism bad... What a joke

@sdarling6518

3 жыл бұрын

You can only find relatives if they just so happen to take the same test you did. Most people are looking for ancestry cues, not distant living relatives.

@AtlisDe

3 жыл бұрын

Dna testing for relatives is easier than dna testing for regional dna given pretty much everyones moved around at one point or another so dna that way more diverse

@Divazia

2 жыл бұрын

@@sdarling6518 I was wondering how this works. People find family they never knew about

@Decodeish1

6 ай бұрын

My father never got to know his real father, but did a DNA test and managed to find a half sister and 2 half brothers. This was very accurate and we met them and found out more about my grandpa as he lived with them.

My grandpa took a DNA test through National Geographic and he was bragging about how his ancestors were traced all the way back to East Africa, not realizing that ALL humans are from East Africa

@vanousisi8112

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry some from west African sorry

@timothystrong3858

3 жыл бұрын

@@vanousisi8112 you gotta be kidding me you comment without research

@Anasta__Sia

2 жыл бұрын

Due to new researches that's questionable

@kgty1295

2 жыл бұрын

DNA testing does not go to the beginning of humans, only up to thousands of years and a minimum of hundreds. They can only show recent DNA history and migrations

@trefoxx1

2 жыл бұрын

Naw

Im : 90%depressed and 20%sad

@wennwenn1422

5 жыл бұрын

-10% ignorant

@pureoakgaming7148

5 жыл бұрын

@@wennwenn1422 at least you evened it out for him

@kkfoto

5 жыл бұрын

110% miserable.

@religiousabuse

5 жыл бұрын

@@wennwenn1422 r/wooosh

@bremensims6086

5 жыл бұрын

@Skinny Worshipper r/woooosh

Hey! It might be meaningless and imprecise, but at least they cost a lot and they sell your genetic data later!

@namelastname4873

5 жыл бұрын

Mad man the dna ethnicity results are not the only part of it. The real value in taking a DNA test is the Relative Matches.

@LukasDohn

5 жыл бұрын

From most companies you can get the raw data and analyse it yourself for different medical markers. If you then know your prone to prostate cancer you can get a checkup more often. Is that meaningless?

@TheItGirl113

5 жыл бұрын

@@LukasDohn the scary part is when insurance companies can get ahold of that probability for cancers, etc in your DNA and choose not to sell your insurance based of something you may not have known you were genetically prone to

@LukasDohn

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheItGirl113 Yeah, that should be illegal. But that's a legislative issue. The test/information can be really useful.

@Cloverfr

5 жыл бұрын

@@namelastname4873 And that is problematic by itself.

As someone who's an adoptee of a closed adoption, I'll take any guesses I can get. I'd prefer solid results, but a probability of what ethnicity I am is better than nothing, at least for me.

@sdarling6518

3 жыл бұрын

Your guess is better than theirs and cheaper.

@semira5945

2 жыл бұрын

Ethnicity is not written in genes

@GoldenBoyDims

2 жыл бұрын

You wont find any answers doing this you are better off just identifying with whatever you feel like

@TonyTerryinlife

2 жыл бұрын

Found my dad’s siblings and my wife found her mother’s, this stuff works. You have to use other tools, and other sites but it works. Ask those on child support

Think about it, you're giving away your genetic code to a profitable industry. What could possibly go wrong?

@pokoirlyase5931

5 жыл бұрын

Nothin'. I could give it if they ask for it. If they offer a service as a bonus, why not

@roomempty343

5 жыл бұрын

You giving not only to farma-industry, which can be used to make vectored viruses - bio-weapon illness that will target some races or even countries with big number of DNA-markers. So, US gov can attack Iran, China or some Eastern Europe's country with your help.

@irondolphin9387

5 жыл бұрын

Room Empty They could also use it to turn the freaking frogs gay or combine it with the Florine in water to mind control us.

@thewiseofearth

5 жыл бұрын

if the farma industry is in need of genes to develop a bio weapon to decimate iran they're not gonna look for it in your spit, they have millions of blood banks all throughout the world, your spit is the last place they are gonna look for genetic material in.

@nextright814

5 жыл бұрын

If you ever been to the doctor they already have your dna.

My mom took a DNA test. Turns out she's a 100% human.

@simplykathrynrebeca

3 жыл бұрын

Really? My mom got 30% fae

@406MenaceRacecar

3 жыл бұрын

Doubt it

@akaony

3 жыл бұрын

That's the nicest thing anyone has ever said about their mom

My test came back 0.0003% amphibian, and now everyone is confused.

Another issue not mentioned is if the reference population is fairly low, the results might not show up in that population. I know my great-grandmother was Native American (Pamunkey tribe), but my ancestry test shows me as having 1% in the Native American population - which is far lower than it should be (should be around 12%.) There just aren't enough Native Americans providing samples for the site to be able to give a good percentage. Edit: Thank you folks for the responses. You're right that proportional DNA might have something to do with it. It's just weird that I have less than 1% Native American match but almost 3% Sub-Saharan African when we have basically no evidence of any African ancestry (slight possibility given the Pamunkey tribe stole black slaves and co-mingled with them every so often, but there's no evidence this happened.) Edit Also: And yes, we're sure my great-grandmother is actually Native American and not a "Native American" cause she was born and raised on the Pamunkey reservation by Native American parents.

@Emperor.Penguin.

5 жыл бұрын

You also might not be as native Americans as you think. Are you sure you're great grandmother wasn't "a native American princess"? Older generations loved to make up supposed indigenous ancestors

@grayonthewater

5 жыл бұрын

Tamerlane yeah I’m pretty sure my family is making my Native American background up, I’ve never seen proof

@CeilingNinja

5 жыл бұрын

@@Emperor.Penguin. No, we're sure. She was a Pamunkey. Born on the reservation. Her picture is in the Smithsonian archives.

@Emperor.Penguin.

5 жыл бұрын

@@CeilingNinja she could also be mixed race.

@CeilingNinja

5 жыл бұрын

@@Emperor.Penguin. It's possible, certainly. I doubt, however, that I'm more Sub-Saharan African (as my results say) than I am Native American. Somewhere the numbers are falling improperly.

Asking a sociologist instead of a geneticist about DNA testing... Classic Vox focusing mostly on presentation rather than good journalism

@marbleplexus

5 жыл бұрын

a geneticist would have said the same thing. it's common knowledge that "races" by all means aren't real by genetic standards. it's a sociologists job to study and explain how social categories like these impact us

@marbleplexus

5 жыл бұрын

so yes. good journalism vox, very cool.

@DaniMrtini

4 жыл бұрын

@@marbleplexus well some geneticists on here on youtube and elsewhere have explaned opposite to what the sociologist and video have said on dna testing

@kamenrideromega1

4 жыл бұрын

@@DaniMrtini yea? and who are they? mind if you show us?

@ali09gaming58

4 жыл бұрын

@SHUT DOWN I am a graduate of Molecular Biology, but not directly in the field of Geneticist's, but Vox is right on this one.

"DNA tests don't actually tell you where your ancestors lived. It just gives you probabilities on where you're most likely to find relatives today." Hmmm..

@Anasta__Sia

2 жыл бұрын

But your relatives could move...

@jocelyncooper1738

2 жыл бұрын

Humans have migrated a lot throughout history.

I am totally aware of the faults of these DNA tests, but I still love hearing about people’s ancestry results. I think the idea that we are ALL made up of such diverse combinations is so interesting, and it’s amazing to imagine our thousands of ancestors coming together to create one, perfectly unique YOU!

As somebody who was adopted I just wanted to find out if I had any family turns out I had a sister and uncle and also learned why I have schizophrenia it taught me alot more about my own history more then ethnicity but rather knowing something outta 30 years gives you peace of mind

Rumor has it that Elizabeth Holmes college roommate is running these ancestry tests...

@mariannaoz

5 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@iwrotethis4712

5 жыл бұрын

Theranos ||

@ngoms1260

5 жыл бұрын

😂

@sophroniel

5 жыл бұрын

thanks i h8 it

@ifloridawarriorcatfan9918

4 жыл бұрын

😂

My dad and I both did the ancestry dna kit - he showed up 25% Greek and no Greek was found in mine!! (Yes he’s my real dad before anyone makes the joke😂)

@beastvader

5 жыл бұрын

Wow, not a very accurate test then!

@DaniMrtini

4 жыл бұрын

Coukd be because he is 1 generation closer to your ancesters than you, it shows up as it hasn't been diluted as much. Granted you probably should have been at least a little greek but the again the methods being used are always being refined and updated so it is possible if you log back in to ancestry dna at some point in the future you'll have greek in your results. My dna result was spot on

@ShidaiTaino

4 жыл бұрын

Shantarah then it came from your mother

@mroldnewbie

3 жыл бұрын

which test

@1julery1

3 жыл бұрын

476 Anno Domini shes 100% Irish 😊

I genuinely don’t understand the concept of being “proud” of an ancestry. Why should I be proud of something I have no control over, especially something I was born into? I think ancestry is interesting but I truly don’t think it should have any bearing over my life (can’t be helped when it’s obvious physical features like having Asian features or red hair for example, can’t help that people know your ancestry based off physical features). I’m Hispanic and my sister took an ancestry test that told her she was 60% Native American and 40% Spanish (yeah big surprise lol) and my family has always told us stories that our great great great relatives were from Native tribes, but we’ve never once seen proof, we don’t know anything about these cultures, we shouldn’t claim to be a part of these communities that we don’t even know with certainty that we are a part of.

@jobshadow

5 жыл бұрын

proud in this sense is less I did something good because you're right. we had nothing to do with it. it's more proud in the sense of appreciating your connection to something bigger than yourself like when your school's football team wins the big game. you probably had nothing to do with it, but you're connected

@grayonthewater

5 жыл бұрын

@@jobshadow I like that description more. I also think people can take that too far like when crazed fans set the opposing team's fan's cars on fire over the outcome of a game lol

@derljackson5365

5 жыл бұрын

@@jobshadow if you are so miserabel that you have to claim the victory of your school foot Ball Team, then you truly are no better then the white supremesist who claim to be better then other just cause of their colour skin wich coincidentally looks simular to the skin tone of "great people"

@Parisroam

5 жыл бұрын

@@derljackson5365 such a false equivalent. There is a difference between being proud, and tearing someone down for being different. It's okay to be white (from whatever european country) and proud 😂 the problem is when you start killing people who look different that you. Get a clue, child.

@el.blanco8961

5 жыл бұрын

You don't HAVE to be proud but you can always find it interesting and inspiring.

I found a 'loophole' and just used old documents to find where my ancestors came from and just computed how much of their DNA I shared with them, its not perfect but saved me money from buying one one of those kits.

I have naturally red hair, extremely pale freckled skin and blue eyes, but because my grandmother's family was First Nations from Washington/BC, I have a few random things that are very Native American, such as my dental structure, inability to process dairy, allergies and lack of body odor. It's fascinating; I've had dentists refuse to believe that my dental records belonged to me because I look 100% European. I also have epicanthic/monolid eyes, but I got that from my 100% Swedish father. We can't even detect any Sami ancestry, and he has spent 20 years with family history as his main hobby. In conclusion, genetics is wild.

@timesn7774

5 жыл бұрын

What do u mean dental structure? What looks different or ? I look European but have Native American in my DNA and I was told by my orthodontist that my teeth were something that I forgot Nd also my dentist too.. I wasnt listening both times. Lol

@neptunehenriksen

5 жыл бұрын

I definitely hear that! I'm multiracial and my brother's hair is completely different to mine, we have different eye brows and brow bones, different dental structure, but the same skin tone, the same eyes, ears, and lips, and we're the same height and shoe size. Most people think we look exactly alike, because they only see the skin colour and physical size, but looking at the smaller details, we each got different bits of genetics from all over the world.

@sophroniel

5 жыл бұрын

@@timesn7774 it's to do with bite width and shape. I've got a very wide, flatter dental shape than most europeans who tend to have narrower, more elliptical shapes. (I think.....)

@margaritam.9118

4 жыл бұрын

Is lack of body odour a real thing? I am jealous :D

@shaffy856

2 жыл бұрын

@@margaritam.9118 it's linked to the ABcc11 gene and it's found in people of east Asian or Native American descent. It's linked to low or no body hair, body odor, and dry earwax instead of wet. My mother and her mother are the only ones who had it.

I see these tests as a positive rather than a negative effect on our understanding of race. I see it as how related we all are rather than how much we are separated from each other. Those white nationalists or any racist would see this test as a way to prove their "racial" purity (even though race is just a construct because we are all of the human race).

@rodolfolasparri479

5 жыл бұрын

Technically, we are different sub-species of the same race....for PC reasons, we don't say "breed" or "sub-species" The races have different gestation periods, ave brain sizes, drug reactions, heat and cold tolerances, etc. A physician that doesn't take race into account, practices bad medicine.

@s0frShPorTknoxXj

5 жыл бұрын

Crazy cause the large majority of white people get only white it’s only about 4% of the white population in the U.S that has mixed race its lowkey funny how hard they went to not inter mix

@nikibronson133

5 жыл бұрын

thats an interesting take. goo point

@fucjk2141

5 жыл бұрын

@@rodolfolasparri479 I'm sorry but brain size? you're a dumbass

@stt.9433

4 жыл бұрын

My biology teacher said that race is not a construct and that different sub-species do exist. It's just race obsessed americans try to convince themselves that race is a not a thing or that it's everything. Always so Extreme, YIKES. In the beginning People just didn't like that connotation because it made us more animal. I don't see the difference between dog breeds and human ethnicities. Also given how innacurate these tests are all those white nationalist are bound to get a 4 % african. What's hilarious about this product is that it really outlines American's obsession with race/ethnicity. They are willing to pay money so that an obscure test tells them they're exotic.

I found my DNA test mostly accurate since I've traced my ancestors on both sides of family back at least 4 generations. It's the smaller percentage findings that are likely the most inaccurate

@nailahdawkins

6 ай бұрын

Well you have another generation at least to find where the small percentages come from! About 5 generations are where you gain your DNA. Anything after could happen but it's not gonna reach you, it's too far back. If your percentage was a low percentage like 4%-5%, then after a few updates was reduced it doesn't mean it's a false positive. It means the reference populations and data changed the algorithm and more precisely aligns/matches the DNA you carry. Also, if you get that percentage from a parent and it's reduced (and stays on your chart/doesn't disappear completely), it's _unlikely_ it's a trace. It's more likely in your DNA!

I know this is kind of off topic but my friends dad found his long lost brother when their DNA matched on one of those kits. Idk pretty cool.

@unapologeticallyme8513

4 жыл бұрын

I found alot of relatives through my test too it's so cool to see how many people you're related to in some way shape or form

@Juanmaligno

4 жыл бұрын

@@unapologeticallyme8513 how did you do that?

@munirahmuhammad8427

4 жыл бұрын

@@unapologeticallyme8513 is there is any other dna relative kit? Hmm so far I knew that ethnicity dna kit only reveal our ethic. Its pretty interesting when we got to know who is our far relative

@sierrajaxson6917

3 жыл бұрын

I'm trying to figure out the best dna test to see if I have any long lost relatives

@PP-ec6cw

3 жыл бұрын

@@unapologeticallyme8513 how? Please Answer

It's probably more meaningful, much more meaningful to figure out your geneaology to see who you ancestors were as many generations back as you can. It takes more work, but it means a heck of a lot more to your identity and where you come from.

I would love to see a double blind test - send in your dna multiple times to the same company with different names associated and see if they give you the same results.

@MeganMcIntosh

5 жыл бұрын

Chuck Poll my mom is doing this. So far she has results from 2 companies and they are pretty much identical.

@nexus1g

Жыл бұрын

@@MeganMcIntosh Any updates on that?

Lmao mine was scarily accurate - down to exact regions my grandparents are from

@dayalasingh5853

4 жыл бұрын

Which one did you use?

@pepperducks9019

4 жыл бұрын

@@dayalasingh5853| yeah which one

@bex6156

3 жыл бұрын

which one did u use

@1955DodgersBrooklyn

3 жыл бұрын

@@bex6156 Ancestry!

@bex6156

3 жыл бұрын

@@1955DodgersBrooklyn is it better/more accurate?

If you honestly expected it to be 100% accurate I'm sorry to tell you you're incredibly naive and that isn't how the world works.

@Juanmaligno

4 жыл бұрын

No one expects 100% lol but the percentages are off by alot

@vanousisi8112

3 жыл бұрын

My issue !

don't ask a sociologist ask an actual geneticist or biologist they can show you lol

@chrisyung3089

5 жыл бұрын

Right, that is what I thought.

@chengkuoklee5734

5 жыл бұрын

Sociologist employ genetists' knowledge to explain the human social history. There is no problem at all. What she said are real limitation that exists.

@lawnfascist4890

4 жыл бұрын

c'mon. They have to do something besides teach Sociology. Otherwise, that degree would completely useless.

I feel like the tests would be much more useful if they predicted people's chances to have a certain disease or cancer. Similar tests actually do this. But it (of course) depends on whether people really want to know their chances of getting a certain, possibly terminal, illness.

I just got my 23 & me results and am completely underwhelmed by the lack of specifics and the very broad generalities that are basically "cover all bases" long with nonsense telling me I wake up around 7am on my days off... It also tells me I'm bald- I would never have know otherwise. Save your money guys.

I am pretty confident with their guess. I see no issue here. The test got my parents birthplace correctly, and properly identified the Mexican state that they are from. 23andme guess has been getting better and better.

@blsi4037

4 жыл бұрын

Did it mention, say, where in Spain your ancestors come from, or when they migrated over?

If you want to learn who your family really was, go do a lot of research on documents, immigration records, censuses, etc. My mom and myself did one of these tests and there were a lot of errors in the percentages with much of our already filled out family tree. DNA tests tell you a probability of where your family may have come from. Doing genealogy actually shows the individual people and their stories.

I'm going through a unique situation with Ancestry DNA. None of my father's family members are on Ancestry DNA. I took the test mainly to know more about my father's side of the family and got nothing. I put my father's father name in my family tree and got no hints. None. Every information I'm seeing is from my mother's side. Her cousins, her parents and her ancestors. All of their family tree is linked to my mother. When looking at people who match my DNA, my last name don't even show up. Something is very wrong, here.

You should have definitely mentioned the other methods of dna tests (this is only simple autosomal test) look up more about Y chromosome tests or mtdna tests. These show you your haplogroup and are extremely interesting!

After watching this I’ve come to a conclusion: I’m constipated.

To clarify, reference populations are mostly constructed from populations today, but these populations will have ancestors from other places in past migration. So how do you classify a genetic variation meaningfully to a specific geographic area? You also only inherit a tiny portion of the DNA of each of your ancestors, and a lot of markers that might have some association with geography is lost. So genetic ancestry tests can really only give you a good guess about your ancestry maybe several generations back.

When they do these analysis how far back in time do they go? 200 yrs? 500? 1,000? I had a 23 and Me analysis and it was very accurate with what I know of my family history since the mid 1800's. I'm 100 % Eastern European just like I knew I was. My ancestors were Polish, German and Austrian ( Croatian) so there were no surprises.

@mitchamcommonfair9543

2 жыл бұрын

Polish, German and Austrian are central Europeans

@Mike_Hawk1

Жыл бұрын

@@mitchamcommonfair9543 no its not, its southeast west caribean

@fnansjy456

10 ай бұрын

6-10 generation so 200 is a good approximate but it can go farther back

That’s weird I can find my moms DNA but when Look at my dad side ... it’s mostly from grocery stores . And they all have,”I will be back, am buy some milk.”

What the hell is a sociology professor doing talking about genetics??

@lzmunch

5 жыл бұрын

She rrally doesnt need to say anything beyond what you would learn in high school biology so idk why Everyone is throwing a hissy fit

@leibnizth

5 жыл бұрын

Her area of field could be bio-ethnic ?? That’s a sociological and a bio field. She could be a demographer? Sociology is a science. While most sociology majors go into mathematics, some do venture out in chemistry and biology since sociology is a foundation to those fields as well :-)

@topmog

5 жыл бұрын

​@@leibnizth Sociology and Demography have absolutely nothing to do with the technical side of genetic genealogy. Taking Introduction to Biology in college does not qualify to pontificate about how precise are those tests.

@r.n.4765

5 жыл бұрын

​@@topmog So what qualifies you to pontificate what sociologists and demographers can and cannot possibly have knowledge about? You don't need to take any classes at all to figure out how these tests work, the information is out there for all of you to read. My guess is that was what she has done. And seeing as it is part of her research project into how people interpret and use genetic ancestry testing I would say she is way more qualified to talk about it than you are to talk about what her field of work entails.

@patpatrik764

5 жыл бұрын

Shhh goy, stop noticing things.

Reminder that these companies ethics and how they use your data is incredibly sketchy and they often end up taking ownership of your genetic information. This means they can sell it or do other funky stuff that the majority of people are not okay with.

Here in iceland we have often done studies on genetics, and most of our results show that there's little to no difference from us and for example people from China. For example our Neanderthal percent here is the same as in South east Asia, really shows us how connected we are. One thing I truly love about genetics tests is that you can explore the world through your genes, not that itd be much different if you went without knowing, but going to the areas that your ancestors could've been in is a feeling of itself. Tho with that given I despise when people say they are something when only a part of their blood is, yes you may have 15 precent Italian, but you're not necessarily culturally Italian, buuuut I don't let that annoy me much

@commanderneyo7903

5 жыл бұрын

Totally no differences between Nordic descendants in Iceland and Aborigines in Australia right?

@ottonormal5833

5 жыл бұрын

​@@commanderneyo7903 and Richard H Yes there are no big differences in our genetic code. If every human shares 99.9 % of the same DNA then this is a very minor difference. And most of this different DNA is not even doing anything (they do not code proteins). So the diffences are very shallow only "skin deep". And in the end we all stem from africa and share the same ancestors. Even when you dont like it, because you have made up your mind about people from different continents. Have a nice day.

@RchrdHp

5 жыл бұрын

@@ottonormal5833 I don't like it because it's not true. A single SNP can be the difference between being healthy, or having a fatal abnormality. The genetic difference between being a man or a woman is just the tiny Y chromosome, and yet it results in profound differences, even when you don't like it!

@theespatier4456

5 жыл бұрын

Richard H As you write, an SNP can have great effects, but they are only “skin-deep” indeed. SNPs are not persistent. More than 90% of all human genetic variation is found in all parts of the world, even in sub-continental areas. The differences between humans are minuscule by any measure, whether you’re comparing individuals or populations.

@RchrdHp

5 жыл бұрын

​@@theespatier4456 SNPs are not just 'skin-deep', I have no idea where you got that idea from. Less than 1% of your DNA determines whether you are male or female. So according to you pseudo-scientists, that means there is no real difference between a man and a woman, and we should just ignore it. Actually that probably is what your type believe...

About my Legos ? What can it tell about em' ?

@yas5414

4 жыл бұрын

That it hurts when you stand on them

Additionally, even if the tests were accurate, what would it change? I'm mostly west European, knowing from family history. But the culture I grew up in is Balkan culture. I play in a çoçek band. I own many traditional blouses. But I'm not from Bulgaria, Albania, Serbia, etc. Neither are most of my ancestors. But I have such strong connections to the Balkan-American community, heritage can't change anything. Why worry about where your ancestors are from? Maybe think, where is your heart and home?

I'm really glad that you brought this up. Even though I know next to nothing about human genetics and how it affects physical features, I knew deep down inside something was off about this, especially when in other video ads they kept saying "this is only along your maternal bloodline". Next, I understand it being helpful for finding if you have any distant relatives out there, but if that is its most useful result, then it shouldn't be more than one company each with its own database. Each country should have ONE database. Finally, I would love for you to investigate into those companies that claim that by analyzing our DNA they can utilize science to suggest the best diet plans and exercise plans.

Is there scope for them realistically to become more accurate in the near future? Sequencing a whole genome, for instance, might be easier to do in the coming years and, perhaps couple with richer database, may offer us a chance at a greater, more bespoke understanding of our own ancestry. Great video, thank you.

I've always wanted to take one to see how native I am because I hear all the time that we're super native but it played no role in my up bringing and for a while I didn't know if I was native enough to have a right to list it as one of my ethnic backgrounds. Now I don't care. Ive been learning about the tribe that contributed the most to my family and I love what I've learned and I think even a drop of blood gives me the right to learn and be proud of the journey my genetics took to bring me here. As the world's people spread and realize we're all one race of human and love and procreate we will have more diversity in our ethnicity until we all have ten or more cultures behind us. We don't need to be pure blood to love our history and where our ancestors came from.

@jaybiddy955

2 жыл бұрын

You better buckle up bub

Why would you go to a professor of sociology for this? If you wanted to bring an expert in the video to make a few comments, a geneticist or a genetic counselor would’ve been more appropriate. Using an expert who is not technically qualified in the field you are talking about further reinforces that Vox manufactures stories rather than reporting them.

@chengkuoklee5734

5 жыл бұрын

Genetist knows data but not necessary knows the history behind those data.

It can tell you if your going to jail or not

Way too much spit/spitting in this video. 🤢

@nicolenicole001

3 жыл бұрын

At least they’re not spitting out tobacco...lol

6:58 I could do that, the answer is always yes.

This is why I roll my eyes at these tests. They don’t really tell you a lot more than what you already know. They also don’t tell you anything about who you are as a person. For that you have to look at who your family is that you interact with and who your friends are. That forms the person that you are. There was a video buzzfeed put out and there was a girl who legit started crying because she learned about the “history” that she didn’t know she had. Yeah. Right.

@Eliseexe

5 жыл бұрын

It's true, they don't tell you what kind of person you are but however it can help you with your family history. I found out was a bit German which I didn't know. It turned out to be true when we looked further into it. So sometimes they are right.

@namelastname4873

5 жыл бұрын

Amigps01 the dna ethnicity results are not the only part of it. The real value in taking a DNA test is the Relative Matches.

I went with ancestry dna.. I learned I have an older brother with 2768cM (full relation- same parent), we never met. I also found, the lesser percentages identify me stereotypically more than my majority DNA. Appearance, habits, language, learning... the small percentage was more precise. 40 and 30 percent irish and french, and I don't know either culture from a hole in the wall. I then learned Ancestry DNA's explanation: Time in location. This does not mean you are the location, physically.. it means you were there for a long time. It is a very interesting subject. You can be african, and be 100% american like me...or from Iran, or anyplace. america is too young to have us colorful people on our own marker.

Look at the map labels: East Asia, West Africa, and Europe. The specific East and West labels shows how limited this is as well.

It’s very helpful to reference your genetic test against your family history if you can. My genetic test mostly confirmed what my family believed. Sometimes even down to specific cities.

@sdarling6518

3 жыл бұрын

My parents took these tests and there is nothing about cities-just regions.

@jocelyncooper1738

2 жыл бұрын

@@sdarling6518 same

So the take-home message is take the test if you're curious about your "heritage" but take the results with a pinch of salt. (So many "takes"!) :)

I found out my paternal grandfather cheated on my paternal grandmother with an ancestry test. Sure there's a margin of error....

DNA charts basically tell you which parent was dominant in sex.

I've been trying to explain to people this very issue, and I'm glad it's becoming more well known. These companies are relying on the misinformation that people are believing because it plays into the gimmick of the test to begin with. It doesn't tell you your genetic make up, just what you have in common with other people in different areas.

2:50 Comparison of different populations "in the modern world". I needed to know that one, thanks.

@dinsel9691

4 жыл бұрын

Of course.. and by extrapolation ancestry as well... The modern Sudanese are probably the closest genetic relative to who ever lived in Sudan 1000 or 2000 years ago...

Thank you for this important information... most of us don't have much working knowledge of how genetics work and what that means for our lineage and the limitations of these different companies that are offering DNA testing etcetera. Also, I think it's important the reminder that these tests could reinforce, in a not positive way, concepts about race and identity and ethnicity... also, I've heard it said that that there can be people in your lineage that don't show up in your DNA testing because those chromosomes in your particular combination didn't come out and be revealed. How we've become separated, by and large, and, family histories, oral histories of families and communities have been lost. Also, a good reminder that, genetically speaking, we are all mostly the same.... we come out looking differently, speaking differently, believing differently and acting differently. These differences are precious and should be celebrated, remembering our true connectedness.

Anyone else really happy to see Echo in there?

Wanna have Fun: take a set of Twins, ask them to take tests from separate companies. Wait for results & have a good laugh 😉. Thank me if you publish that Video

@BoraCM

4 жыл бұрын

They will have different dna. If your father is 2% Portuguese, one twin may receive 1.5% of it, while the other one may receive none.

@KasumiRINA

3 жыл бұрын

@@BoraCM Identical twins have identical DNA.

@BoraCM

3 жыл бұрын

Kasumi Rina It depends on the type of twins. Fraternal twins only share 50% of their DNA.

@jenniferlindquist6525

3 жыл бұрын

My daughter and my twin sister's son took DNA tests a couple of years apart, and so they showed up as half-siblings!

@jocelyncooper1738

2 жыл бұрын

@@BoraCM identical twins are essentially the same person genetically.

thank you! just finished my exam for forensic DNA testing (we look at RFLPs not SNPs but SNPs are being considered for the future of forensic DNA testing) and i was aware that these tests were giving a wavy percentage likelihood but i knew many others didn't and it stressed me out because humans have so little distinctions between us and it really did make a lot think that race is a hardlined topic

I live in Wyoming....due to military assignment. My wife and I can trace our individual family tree 5 generations back due to known family history. She is Pacific Islander. I'm Caribbean. We both did the DNA test to see how wrong it would be. It actually pinpointed our places of origin exactly how we already knew them.

@starventure

5 жыл бұрын

Dangic23 As more people test, the database gets sharper and sharper. This Vox report is BS.

@aconexofficial

5 жыл бұрын

Yep both of my parents are from poland and my father is a bit mixed with german and scandinavian and exactly that was the result in my dna test. Maybe the percentages are not completely correct, but overall it really works and gives a good estimate I would say

@roomempty343

5 жыл бұрын

So it can be used to make vectored viruses - bio-weapon illness that will target some races or even countries, or islands with big number of DNA-markers. You helped to fill bio-weapon production database.

@Dangic23

5 жыл бұрын

@@roomempty343 US has been doing that on its own population for decades and decades. I'm military, so my DNA was already taken. But yes....you do have a point about the issue of giving away the personal DNA data.

Just a question, what does a sociologist have to do with DNA tests? I mean the field is relevant in a very broad sense but a geneticist would be much more educated in that topic of discussion

@puncheex2

5 жыл бұрын

The field of Genetic Genealogy is not yet one that you can locate in (most) college directories; it is definitely not Cellular Micro-biology or Genomics. You go with people who are self-taught. The same thing was true about computer technology in my youth.

@miraclematthew716

5 жыл бұрын

She's someone who would give Vox, which is a bad faith actor (loaded agenda), the sort of misleading commentary it desired.

@Jesse__H

5 жыл бұрын

@@miraclematthew716 my eyes rolled back so hard at that it actually kind of hurt 🙄

@puncheex2

5 жыл бұрын

@@miraclematthew716 OK, then, what exactly did she say that was misleading? I'd also like to know how/why you think Vox is loaded. I don't like a lot of their videos, but I'd be interested in what you think.

@bellejolie2506

5 жыл бұрын

Nothing. It's just propaganda.

Waiting on my 23&Me results. Thanks for keeping me enlightened 😁

Great video! It explains it well ...but why on earth would you get a sociologist to explain DNA? She seems far from a specialist

@tjwelsh1438

5 жыл бұрын

Tea Lynn Moore You can work with DNA and be a sociologist?

@rodolfolasparri479

5 жыл бұрын

Actually, it explains it based upon a reversed engineered narrative. Here's a real scientist debunking the VOX video kzread.info/dash/bejne/e32LzsOtgdeae6g.html

@Juanmaligno

4 жыл бұрын

Simple. the sociologist lady was talking about sample sizes and how inaccurate the data actually is since her whole thing is studying data , she didnt explain how genetics work. So there wasnt a need to bring in a geneticist

i think it says clearly on 23andme website that it's genotyping not full-length sequencing, which makes sense since the majority of human DNA is regulatory elements or more of a house-keeping general purpose sequences, not like specific genes directly related to certain functions. And also because the majority of these sequences cannot be interpreted, genotyping is the best they can do. But I do agree that the ancestry percentage is a bit of stretch, and percentage below 1% or even 3% is probably not reliable and is therefore negligible.

The question is why do you invite a Professor of Sociology but not genealogy in this interview?

talked to my mom and dad a few times in the past few days about an ancestry test and now this is in my recommended

Asking a sociologist about genetics. Everytime I think Vox can't sink lower, they do just that.

Ehhh mines very accurate. It matches my family tree. One side of my family is white(English/Scottish) and one side is Mexican. The test said I have 34% British, .07% Scandinavian which is typical for British ancestry because of the Vikings, 9.9 % Broadly Northwest European which they can't pinpoint. I'm assuming that's probably more British. 28.4% Native American to Mexico. Then lists a group of states where my ancestors are from. The top 2 Jalisco and Nuevo Leon and those both match up with my family tree. 17.5 % Spanish.Then it gives me a 4% African, which is typical for Mexicans. Then 3% broadly European and 2.5% unassigned. Which all comes down to half white (English mainly) and half Mexican(indigenous mixed with Spanish and a little north African) and that's what I am.

@David-kd4qr

5 жыл бұрын

I'm German/Portuguese/British and guess what mine came back saying...All three of those things with a touch of French mixed in. Mine also was very accurate.

@KK-jl8em

5 жыл бұрын

Thomas Harrison which company did you use?

@xandro2445

5 жыл бұрын

@@KK-jl8em I've used 23 and me, Ancestry DNA, and Living DNA. Ancestry was able to pinpoint my Basque ancestry while 23 and me didn't. 23 and me found the areas in the UK where my family is from though. They are both really good

@KK-jl8em

5 жыл бұрын

Thomas Harrison I live in the U.S but I’m not from here, do you think it could trace back my ancestry anyways? And what would you recommend me?

@xandro2445

5 жыл бұрын

@@KK-jl8em the above was my 23 and me. Ancestry runs your DNA over and over and then gives you the average ; what I like is that they show you your lowest range and your highest range. I'll use my England, Wales, and NW European as an example. They gave me an average of 55% (which is higher than 23 and me) and a range of 53%-58%. So on some tests i ranged as low as 53, as high as 58, and on others somewhere in between. They can't tell for sure if you're precisely 55%, but it is their best scientific guess and a really good range. If you noticed they combined English with North Western European. Because of all the Western European tribes roaming all over a long time ago, it can be difficult to pinpoint which country exactly. They then gave me 31% Native American with a range of 25-38. Then 7% Spain with a range of 0-7. Basque 2% with a range of 0-9. 5% of 3 different African countries. Ireland and Scotland at 1% with a range of 0-2%. Which was shocking to me because I always thought I had a heavy Irish background. But does make sense knowing my family tree now. Italy 1% with a range of 0-1. Which all comes up with English, Native, Spanish, Basque, a little African, traces of Irish/ Scottish and Italian.

I guess it's how we all interpreter them. I have always looked at the year to show just how connected we are and what makes us different is the culture we grew up in.

I love that they paired with one of my other fav. channels

I'm more curious how things will/won't change when we can write our genes as well as read them.

I just want to know if there's a genetic reason for why I love mini coopers and have a strong distrust of the French

@mylifeasamy5691

3 жыл бұрын

Well.... now I'm curious too.

@yourfriendlyneighborhoodcl4824

2 жыл бұрын

Your adolf hitlers nephew’s grandson

@TheBaronVonBarron

2 жыл бұрын

@@yourfriendlyneighborhoodcl4824 *You're

@yourfriendlyneighborhoodcl4824

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheBaronVonBarron no

I'm surprised at how high the uncertainty is. Hopefully results will become much more specific as the different reference databases become larger.

I’m just a tad surprised that y’all didn’t even touch on the issues with things like 23 and Me’s disease reports.

last week i called a dna company. Me and another person doing a test cause we had same last name and wanted to see if related.

@TheKeithvidz

5 жыл бұрын

we haven't gone there @Big Smoke

@theespatier4456

5 жыл бұрын

TheKeithvidz Maybe he is your mother

Why would you interview a sociologist and not a geneticist?

@irondolphin9387

5 жыл бұрын

Kebab with extra garlic mayo Because they want to prove that their sociology major wasn’t a huge waste of time and money.

@chengkuoklee5734

5 жыл бұрын

Globalization starts way ancient than we thought. Genetist can only tell you have those genetic markers but they don't know the complex human history of interaction between region. Science field are overlapped, a breakthrough from 1 field becomes foundation of new discovery for another complete different field.

@Juanmaligno

4 жыл бұрын

Simple the sociologist lady was talking about sample sizes and how inaccurate the data actually is since her whole thing is studying data , she didnt explain how genetics work.

for the record... its not a "guess" its an educated guess... big difference

So glad I didn’t do this. Was nearly obsessed about it for a while.

REALLY DUDE?! DID WE HAVE TO SEE YOU SPITTING IN THE TUBE?!! I was on my lunch break! It was so traumatizing, I couldn't even watch the rest! Thanks a lot for puttting that image in my head!

@lavenderlover5549

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

This was an amazing collab with some of my favorite producers!

@ThePainkiller9995

5 жыл бұрын

@Scott source: dude trust me

3:06 : "And this is where it get's complicated." ohh boy....

I'm going to send my dog's saliva to one of these companies and see what they come up with.

So basically just move the confidence level to 99.9% and that is what you are

Awesome collaboration Vox and Verge, hoping for more to come!

Useful, thx. Would suggest more editing like making it 4 min in the future

i just found out that the results of your DNA depends on the how big the DNA pool is based on the company you tested it with. So you are likely to get different results from a different test company. And also they can only measure upto 500years before apparently.

In my country it is not uncommon for cellphone carriers to sell your phone number to advertisers, even if they have to do it under the table. Similarly, I see this "figure out your ancestry" trend as a dangerously naive way of providing corporations a way to match your DNA with your identity. Who knows what will come out of that?

@OfficialYeat

5 жыл бұрын

Enrique Bernardou true , as DNA is a very valuable asset to company’s as a way to target and distribute advertisements accordingly

@hiyawi

5 жыл бұрын

Burleon lol that’s exactly what happened this winter. And they were 50% off too. I wouldn’t be surprised if their dataset doubled just from the end of 2018 alone.

What were the results from the verge and vox info about law enforcement?

@SullenJones

5 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/aaVsscNyZ8SWZMo.html

the accurate and objective interpretation of a study makes all the difference, this applies to any subject

The marketing may be misleading, but the data is the data-nothing wrong there, IMO. You can argue about whether or not, they’re running the best experiment, but I think what they presented you was fair. There is a BIG difference between probability and guessing. Basically all conclusions in the world are based on probability. Once it’s presented to you, it’s up to you how you choose to interpret the data.

@maninspired

5 жыл бұрын

My sentiment exactly. This is a core criticism I have with Ezra and Vox.