I remember speaking with my great uncle who was a major in the 24 infanterie division. It spent the war in Russia. I asked him what he thought about the SS. He hailed from a "von" background and strongly disliked their politics. However I recall him saying that if a SS unit was on their flanks they knew that flank, at least, was secure.

@covertops19Z

3 ай бұрын

Speaks volumes...

@markaxworthy2508

2 ай бұрын

Surely, it depends on the division? I doubt anyone would have had much confidence in the 39thW-SS Baron von Munchausen Volunteer Division.

@David-ns4ym

Ай бұрын

seconds ago The German alliance into Russia was full of poor divisions. The Italians or Bulgarians on a flank would be poor indeed. So very true. The Germans always fought rear action withdrawals. You’ll be hard pressed to find a battle they were routed. Whether a few men or many when withdrawing they would turn back and launch counter attacks. This was Parthian in essence l. The Romans hated fighting the parthians since they always fired back on horseback when retiring from battle and would kill many pursuing Romans. The term “parting shot” comes from this technique. The Germans modernized it just like Alexander’s blitzkrieg or decisive manuevre style was modernized

This is why Paul Hausser was the most important General in the Waffen SS. Him being also a General in the Reichsweir, made him the defacto diplomat between the two. Great video

@wulfthofengaming457

7 ай бұрын

he was under rated as well maybe i missed video but most video i watch never mention Paul papa Hausser. Great general for the Waffen SS.

@roymartin500

7 ай бұрын

@@wulfthofengaming457 I am suprised too by the lack of his fame and lack of videos on KZread. That'd be a great suggestion to make; Make more Paul Papa Hausser videos.

@kevinbrennan-ji1so

3 ай бұрын

I think ‘Papa’ Hausser is well regarded by most students of WW2.

It has to be taken into account that there was a certain element of jealousy with higher ranks in the Wehrmacht when it came to the W-SS. Which is natural when elite units arise outside of the Wehrmacht who get attention and credit for their exceptional performance.If those W-SS units were just part of the Wehrmacht like other divisions no one would have had a problem to give them the credit they deserved.

@wanderingwarrior5626

8 ай бұрын

The same with U.S. military regular soldiers in Vietnam. Jealousy was a real problem, many actually hated the Special Forces, SOG operatives. I knew some from that era, they told me so. They felt those special units got to much freedom to look like what they wanted, to do what they wanted, fratanize with the locals, etc. Independent, thinkers, loners, have alway felt the wrath of the common man, in civilian life too.

@wanderingwarrior5626

8 ай бұрын

@@sheepsfoot2 You need to connect with 'real' history. American soldiers started lining up, shooting surrendered Germans on the beach, told to me by a U.S. soldier that was there watching it. Simply because, those bloodthirsty soldiers didn't want to be left behind to watch POW's. Need I direct you to books about U.S. soldiers raping 40,000 women on their death, destruction rampage across Europe, U.S. soldiers throwing Vietnamese under tank tracks, out of helos to get others to talk, the well publicized atrocities committed in Somalia, Afghanistan, Iraq! Stop being blinded by ruling class/U.S. feel good propaganda!

@stoggafllik

8 ай бұрын

​@@sheepsfoot2The Malmendy massacre was push to shove garbage. Peipers men were merely in the area and hence were blamed for it, despite no evidence being produced for their massacre at Malmendy during the Nuremberg trials

@thl7587

8 ай бұрын

​@@sheepsfoot2morals and war don't match. You can see that in our days too and we could have learned from wars li ja e WW Ii, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan etc.

@AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg

8 ай бұрын

Waffen SS had something like a 16 day survival rate, life expectancy.

If they were Canadian ministers they would stand and applaud! 😂

@gartik2367

8 ай бұрын

Such an absurd sentiment even as a joke, bunch of idiots dragged a 98 year old veteran from a strictly military section of the SS which wasnt involved in the political war just 1 battle which was the brody pocket, Nazis despised the Ukrainians and the Canadians had no idea he served in Galizien, canada's liberal shithole parliament aren't nazis.

@doggydude2668

8 ай бұрын

hahaha good one

@srijanrawat4014

8 ай бұрын

😂

@Dilley_G45

8 ай бұрын

Yes but for a different reason. They ARE Nazis.Left-wing nazicommunists

@bikerz3857

8 ай бұрын

Anyone who fought against communists must be applauded.

Every testimony of regular soldiers proves that they were pleased when they had a WSS unit at their side, as they were reliable comrades with high moral and combat value.

@scottanno8861

7 ай бұрын

Exactly. Morale is the single most important differentiating aspect between conscripts and quality soldiers.

@markaxworthy2508

6 ай бұрын

The ordinary Landser was pleased when ANY mechanised divisions came to their support. All the senior W-SS divisions were always motorised, or later armoured. Nobody would have been particularly pleased to see any of the non-mechanised W-SS divisions.

@novadhd

3 ай бұрын

I would say more fanatic than high moral value but decent fighters I guess

@David-ns4ym

Ай бұрын

The German army was very mechanized until hitler gave preference to the SS divisions but both used horses and even the SS were using bicycles

6:48 "the waffen SS casualty rate in the missions they performed in was very high" - This right here sums up why it is not worthy to envy the SS.

@jefclark

8 ай бұрын

Not only that but you can read Heer accounts early war of their officers disgust. One I remembered noted the Waffen SS cmdr came to him, saluted, and reported the mission 'accomplished with heavy losses'. However he was pleased by that. They were *extremely* wasteful of their men. Its pretty funny considering they'd soon be lobbing accusations at the Soviets for 'human wave' tactics and how cruel and dumb that was. Its actually a theme for the Germans in the war. Invent and start strategic terror bombing > whine when it happens to you. Complain the Soviets 'dont fight war fair'. Complain the Americans 'dont fight war fair'. LOL

@pedrocacela1885

Ай бұрын

@@jefclark English and Americans invented strategic bombing and built the first strategic bombers in the 30's. The only german strategic bomber was the focke wulf 200 condor but it was essentially used as a cargo and transport aircraft not as a strategic bomber. Only about 200 were ever built. Tactical bombing, with small two engine bombers, is not the same thing as strategic bombing with much bigger four engine airplanes. The germans also never used weapons of mass destruction in their tactical bombings, like white phosphorus or atomic bombs. Never bombed people with napalm either. Not to say that if they could have they wouldn't have done it, they were just never that powerful. If you are still seeing history as a struggle or conflict between good and evil, i advise you to move to more religious or mythical grounds, where such kind of analysis can still be pertinent from an anthropological point of view.

Heinz Guderian My GOAT Von Manstein The REAL GOAT ALways big fan of War Academy

@MD21037

19 күн бұрын

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In von Mellinthin's classic "Panzer Battles" he notes that they were like any other comrades in the struggle.

I read that only the 1st to 5th ss divisions were "elite" the rest not so much. Also... as the war progressed the"quality" of troops went down do to high attrition.

@jsd795

8 ай бұрын

2nd SS was the best SS division. The 1st, 3rd, 5th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, 16th and 17th were good divisions. There were some brigade sized units that were designated as divisions very late in the war that never actually reached division levels in terms of size that were good as well. However none were as good as the army's GD or 2nd panzer division.

@somewhere6

8 ай бұрын

@@jsd795 I think your assessment of which were the best SS divisions is correct. GD was good because it was very overstrength in both men and equipment. I don't see what makes 2nd panzer inherently better than any of a number of other good Wehrmacht divisions. 1st falschirmjager had a very good combat record and in terms of personnel, Panzer Lehr probably had the highest quality recruits.

@jsd795

8 ай бұрын

@@somewhere6 the 2nd panzer combat record is what makes it better although the 3rd through 6th along with the 9th and 11th panzer were probably in the same ballpark. The GD was good for more reasons than the composition of its components which were rarely deployed in their entirely at one time and place. The Pz Lehr isn't worth mentioning in the same sentence as the units that I stated with the exception of the 9th through 11th SS along with the 16th and 17th SS.

@jefclark

8 ай бұрын

@@jsd795 2nd SS did terribly in France '44. disagree. 17th did pretty friggin bad in the war too. 12th did good at Normandy initially then sucked the rest of the war. Id argue 1st LSSAH was the best SS combat unit by far

@jsd795

8 ай бұрын

@@jefclark you disagree do you? Well for starters the war started in 1939. That being said the 2nd SS was in the process of being rebuilt after prolonged combat in the east to the tune that 9,000 of its members were new recruits. This along with the piecemeal deployment to Normandy which was due to extreme shortages of wheeled transport in the division and shortages in the French rail system meant that it took from June 13th until late July for the entire division to arrive and it certainly didn't disgrace itself on the battlefield. Of course the same can't be said for its behavior as it moved towards Normandy. The 17th was a brand new division and while it didn't distinguish itself it also didn't perform horribly. I would rate the 2nd SS, 3rd SS and 5th SS all ahead of the 1st SS along with several Wehrmacht divisions.

thank you

Good history Channel

I talked with a US ARMY intel guy who rated different units and said the Waggen SS had the highest rating of any unit he evaluated but were absolutely ruthless and didnt like taking prisoners.

O:47 German units were given priority for weapons based on the requirements at the front and the Waffen SS was almost constantly at the front, if the units were spending their time in the rear no priority would be given them over the units at the front even if it was a Waffen SS unit. Also there were rivalry between different units and that is normal in all military. No need to belittle the combat performance of the waffen SS.

@harcomou8395

4 ай бұрын

Units

@reginaldmcnab3265

4 ай бұрын

@@harcomou8395 thank you!

@harcomou8395

4 ай бұрын

​@@reginaldmcnab3265 Pleasure. Good day sir, and all the best from Hamburg, Germany

@reginaldmcnab3265

4 ай бұрын

@@harcomou8395Guten Tag to you! I wish you a good day!

@jaaackaissa1633

16 күн бұрын

In addition, the SS Panzer divisions were formed in the year 1943 from scratch, or from divisions that were almost completely destroyed, or that lost all of their equipment and weapons. Therefore, they were provided with the latest weapons.

Video truly revealed the reality of that unique situation beyond Wermakht divisions and Waffn SS Divisions during WW2..also the video labeled to the critically attitudes of Generals Rommel, Gudarian, and Manstein to ward's Waffin SS divisions, they were fought furiously with fillfulment in all bleak circumstances without delays. also they were supported by most powerful weapons Germany had, Generals exaggerated in their critically . The Generals of Wermakht divisions they were skeptical to the Waffen SS until they proved themselves in battle. For that reason General Paul Hausser was the most important General in the Waffen SS....thank you respectful 🙏 ( War academy) channel for sharing

Interesting video, thanks👍

Maybe they were critical in their memoirs to distance themselves from the Nazis as they can then say they were just soldiers doing their job 🤔🤔

@riverbluevert7814

Ай бұрын

I've always suspected this.

It appears to me that the generals of the regular army were skeptical of the Waffen SS until they proved themselves in battle. That's not surprising. Sort of like the Tuskegee Airmen who were initially not trusted because they were black but eventually earned so much respect that some units wanted only them to provide air cover for the ground troops.

@twirajuda

2 ай бұрын

True the SS had to prove themselves like the Tuskegee airmen did. But the latter didn’t waste their manpower like the SS did, and they didn’t waste time filling their heads with ideology

@bevinboulder5039

2 ай бұрын

@@twirajudaVery true. And that ideology also led to Hitler to underestimating the Soviets and Americans to Germany's detriment.

Can you make a video about the relationship between Manstein and romanian Marshall Ion Antonescu ( many times in your footage Antonescu is with Manstein)

I agree with Rommel and Guderian, less with von Mannstein … based on my fathers experiences from 1939 to 1945 serving in the Wehrmacht, leading a Pak Zug at the eastern front forward and backward …

@user-go2st5fi9w

4 ай бұрын

As an American, I thank your father for trying to save us. I respect Germans of that era.

Best KZread channel thanks!!!!

@waracademy128

8 ай бұрын

Ty

Rommel wasn’t into the Waffen SS Units… He was a General in the Regular Army Forces … He didn’t uphold in the Nazi Propaganda… He was different and a more independent thinker .. that is why he was dangerous to the Hitler supporters… He was a Leader and they were followers of Hitler even if they were losing the war they would still follow Hitler blindly whereas Rommel as a Military General and Military Strategist understood the art of warfare because of his military experience and actions of honor and bravery in World War One.

Very good video again.

What soundtrack did you use in this video partner?

@waracademy128

8 ай бұрын

Bso Empire earth

@Davserban

8 ай бұрын

@@waracademy128 much obliged, your videos are very well written.

I wonder what model’s view on the Waffen SS was. He was thought of by Hitler as his fireman and would almost always be found in the heavies fighting.

The reason SS units tended to lead offensives is because most of them were panzer or panzer grenadier so were fully motorised whereas Army units were mainly still horse cart bound so ended up walking.

After Kursk, when the Red Army was attacking the German positions west of the Dnieper, the Red Army ridiculously outnumbered the Germans (I have heard the Germans only had about 400,000 soldiers guarding western Ukraine vs 2,200,000 Soviet soldiers), how did the Red Army not utterly annihiliate the Germans?

@OneOne-oe7ly

8 ай бұрын

German soldiers, "tools" and officers were a more high quality, but 1 lion can't beat 500 dogs

@real_yunicellular

8 ай бұрын

@@OneOne-oe7ly True, that might have been the case. But another big factor is that the Germans were behind the Dnieper river, a extremely big river and easy to defend, which guarantees high casualties to the Soviets and since the river is so big, supplying attacking forces is very difficult. Hence, why the Soviets had to advance pretty slowly even after winning victories, giving the Germans time to recover and build new defenses and recover lost troops. So there you go. I might have gotten a dozen things wrong and missed out on a lot of things, but this is what I think.

@yeeyee52

8 ай бұрын

@@real_yunicellular Unfortunately the German were unable to exploit the river to its full benefits as they simply did not have enough men to guard it all, they had strong points set up which were easily bypassed and left to be destroyed by rear units.

@real_yunicellular

8 ай бұрын

@@yeeyee52 I think if they had mobilized the Volksturrm early, they’d get the men to defend Ukraine.

@Neomalthusiano

8 ай бұрын

​@@real_yunicellularthe idea of volksturm was defending "German" land. The regular German that was conscripted into those units didn't care at all for the war, but Hitler still had the hope that defending their own homes from looting, their sons from being slaughtered and their daughters from being raped would raise moral for them to fight. For most part it didn't, but at least it makes sense. In Ukraine, those conscripts would have no will to fight. And there were more than enough Ukrainians volunteers already. Those people that volunteered for the SS and were rejected, those whom kept public duties in administration during German control, collaborators , etc... You can bet that they all would be better dead than having to face Soviets again.

Mansteinwas an adopted name. It was Lewinski.

Rommel calling them unprofessional is funny in a dark-sense, like he knew that these were the wacko's.

First of all they were better supplied.

If u know these generals by playing world conqueror like it

The Professional German officer corps didn’t want competition.

you vs the guy she tells you not to worry about

The greatest generals who knew how to use their limited resources.

@joangratzer2101

8 ай бұрын

"WE WER OUTNUMBERED; WE WERE OUTGUNNED, BUT WE WERE NEVER OUTMANNED". VON MANSTEIN "LOST VICTORIES"

@JDDC-tq7qm

8 ай бұрын

​@@joangratzer2101IN STALINGRAD THE GERMANS WERE CERTAINLY OUTMANNED

@joangratzer2101

8 ай бұрын

@@JDDC-tq7qm THE GERMAN ARMY AT STALINGRAD WAS OUTNUMBERED; NEVER OUTMANNED. CHECK YOUR FIGURES UNTERMENSCH AND THEN GET BACK TO ME. THE RUSSIANS WERE ABLE TO POUR FRESH ARMIES INTO STALINGRAD WHILE THE GERMAN LOSSES COULD NOT BE MADE UP. WHOLE COMBAT DIVISIONS WERE REBUILT WITH UNDERSTRENGTH UNITS. YOUR NOT WORTHY TO HAVE THE GERMAN ARMY PISS ON YOU UNTERMENSCH.

I am a fan of Rommel.

"Blood is the price of victory." -- Carl von Clausewitz "You must bleed your troops! Otherwise you will never know how good they are." -- Iossif Stalin to Churchill

Looking at Himmler he had a nerve to go on about the Aryan race

SS units brought several other problems besides equipment preference and some ill prepared units. They were a structure outside of the wehrmacht that had their own administration,logistics and warehouses. They also had some production support facilities. All this was a duplication and a waste of resources.

@franciscruickshank8794

4 ай бұрын

the waffen ss did not have equipment preference and had to use pre war weapons andcaptured czech /french/ belgium /poles etc, including tanks! check out bruce quarrie WEAPONS OF THE WAFFEN SS. 😎

The SS man looks like Christian Bale😂

Any good soldiers books who were in the wss? Read a lot of whermacht accounts

As far as I know, ethnic Germans were not allowed to serve in the Wehrmacht..so many many Ungarndeutsche gave their blood and life in the following 8 divisions from start to the bitter end: 7th Prinz Eugen, 8th Florian Geyer, 18th Horst Wessel, 22nd Maria Theresia, 25th Hunyadi, 26th Hungaria, 31st Batschka, 37 Lutzow…🙀🇭🇺🇩🇪🇭🇺🇩🇪🇭🇺🇩🇪

@brucenorman8904

2 күн бұрын

Ethnic Germans were most certainly allowed to serve in the Wehrmacht, they were even conscripted. Guy Sajer a French national with a German mother was conscripted in 1942.

Couldn't help but notice a smiling Hitler walking alongside the likes of rommel. Clearly, he was enjoying himself. He loved the limelight ? The company of personnel who were actually "above " him? Or did he simply bathe in the joy of the fighting and the battles?

Interesting episode but incorrect pronunciation of Waffen undermines credibility of the entire episode.

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I liked the channel and the content is good but the video clips and format of the videos used have become repetitive and a little stale. It’s like every video is the same.

their opinions were not high

Goot chanet history

I can’t get past the wheremock then turn around and say german army. It’s Heer.(land force) luftwaffe (air) and Kriegsmarine( navy) Pronounced with a V - Wermacht is all combined. I love when they say whyking W=V so say it just like we do in English. Doesn’t this erk anyone else?

In the Battle of the Bulge, there were two Panzer armies, the Fifth Panzer Army and the Sixth SS Panzer Army. While the 5th achieved a major break through, the 6th, the SS unit, was stopped primarily by single US division, the 2ndID, and was never able to get going.

@ltdike123

5 ай бұрын

This is true, but you are presenting this fact in a way which makes the SS seem less competent than the Heer than it really was. In order of importance, first off, the majority of the America corps level artillery in the Ardennes sector was directly behind the 2ndID. Secondly, the terrain in the 2ndID's sector was the most defensible in the entire Ardennes sector, it was a very heavily wooded ridge. Thirdly, the 2ndID was deployed much more densely than American divisions in other parts of the Ardennes. Fourthly, the 2ndID was one of the best in the American army; it was a pre-war professional unit that had gained a great deal of combat experience. This isn't even to mention some of the other problems on the German side of things that were not inherent to the SS overall competency. The 6th SS panzer had one less panzer division immediately available than the 5th panzer; that makes a huge difference. The 6th SS panzer had another panzer corps in reserve that was not committed until they had lost the initiative because of issues supplying them with fuel. Also the 6th SS panzer commander was a political appointee; virtually any other SS general would have been better. I hope this was educational for you.

@phillipnagle9651

5 ай бұрын

@@ltdike123 A lot of excuses but basically the 6th SS Panzer Army was stopped by a single American Division.

@ltdike123

5 ай бұрын

@@phillipnagle9651 I'm not making excuses for anybody, I'm telling you a fact that if the roles had been reversed and the 5th panzer army had been the one attacking on the northern shoulder with the 6th panzer in the center/south the same thing would have happened. The 5th panzer would have been stopped cold and the 6th SS would have broken through, due to the very different situation the two armies found themselves in. The 2nd, 116th and Lehr Panzer divisions aren't magically 5 times better than 1st or 12th SS. Your original comment strongly implies that there is a massive qualitive difference between 5th and 6th panzer armies because the only difference you mention between them is that one was SS and the other was not, totally ignoring anything else that may have led to this disparity in performance, and you are dismissing the nuance that I am adding as excuses to reiterate your observation and its implications because you have an ulterior motive to degrade Waffen SS combat personnel as a form of virtue signaling. I'm adding context to your comment so that people don't fall into this trap of thinking that the SS Panzer Divisions were incompetent when they weren't. I'm willing to admit that the 2nd panzer division was the best German division in the offensive; but the difference in quality between it and 12th SS panzer, IMO the worst panzer division in the offensive, but the difference in quality is not so significant as to merit it being the deciding factor as to why one army broke through and the other didn't. There's no point in being flippant here. This is an important topic and it needs to be addressed in a comprehensive manor instead of being dumbed down to "Haha look how incompetent the SS are compared to the Heer"

@Eric-kn4yn

5 ай бұрын

Battle of bulge was doomed from the start no matter what happened

@eric934

3 ай бұрын

The Americans did a terrific job holding the line and regrouping to counter the attack. Many US units distinguished themselves during this battle, not just the elite units like the Screaming Eagles. Non combatants included. The Offensive was always going to fail though, yet another one of Hitlers madcap schemes. It turned instead thankfully into a strategic defeat for Germany and the destruction of much German material and death of many soldiers. The SS fanboys like to trumpet how far the breakthrough got ( in really very small numbers ), but choose not to see how far from their objectives they really were in any force, and how the allies were re-deploying to stop them. If you read with open eyes what a dogs dinner the Germans made of the offensive from day -1, across unsuitable terrain, on a wing and a prayer, hoping for unending bad weather to keep the allied air forces on the ground. It really beggars belief that they tried. The real heroes in the bulge were those American men who chose to fight, despite their fear, and despite the huge forces coming at them unexpectedly through the mist and the dark "stood their ground" and "found a way" to stall the attack.

Pronounced, "Vaffen" SS

@nasedo3129

6 ай бұрын

Reminds of an old German in my town trying to make someone understand a word by spelling it for him..."we, we as in Wictor!" : )

Always wondered if von Manstein was ever called, "The Nose"... Awesome commander, good book... but The Nazi's were asses and I'm sure used nick names and von Manstein... Nose.

The Waffen-SS and Wehrmacht had not so different casualties compared to each other.

@brucenorman8904

2 күн бұрын

The Waffen SS almost always suffered higher casualties for achieving a objective than comparable Wehrmacht units would have.

@newskenger3885

Күн бұрын

@@brucenorman8904 Then the percentage of casualties would have been way higher than the one of the Wehrmacht. But: It is not. 3% in total to all Wehrmacht units is not that high. Some were even way behind that.

After studying years of studying WWII, my conclusion is that it would had been better for Germany if the waffen SS never existed, and all the men that fought and killed in these units to be allocated to werhmacht units. In fact, waffen SS units performed poorly in the initial stage of the war, between 1939 - 1941, in comparison with the average werhmacht infantry Division. What changed during the course of the war is that given the fact that Hitler and Himmler heavily favoured these divisions, the leadership of the army adapted accordingly and used essentially these units as cannon fodder, in all the missions that very high casualties were expected. In that way they managed to preserve their regular army units (and a portion of their soldiers) were not totally exterminated.

@jefclark

8 ай бұрын

I agree. The genocides and holocaust were also a staggering waste of men, materiel, and resources. Not to mention clogging train lines. Nevertheless this is like supposing no Barbarossa, or Barbarossa starting earlier, whatever. The fact is most of the stuff the Nazis did was inherent to fascism. It never would have lasted no matter what they did because they truly believed constant warfare made a nation strong.

@mercomania

8 ай бұрын

The LAH was the finest German Division in WWII. They were loyal Germans and the senior officers not politically motivated. Brigadeführer Möhnke and his men where there to the very end.

@jefclark

8 ай бұрын

@@mercomania Lol no actually Wiking and the foreign SS were the very last defenders... because they were fucked and they knew it

You should make an effort to use the correct pronunciation of German names, places & things. Other than that, quite informative.

Bad Toelz, was and still is the home of the 10th Special Forces Group. Does anyone think this is coincidence? JFK modeled the SF after the Waffen SS. It was simply not true that the Waffen got the pick of the best armaments. They did not. Their success was due to discipline, training, faith in their fellow soldiers, and for most the indoctrination of Nazism, sadly to say. From my experience, the 5th Group were the most elite fighters, all thru Vietnam, more like the Grossdeutchland division. I salute them both, for innovative tactics with minimal resources. These were the best of the best.

@brucenorman8904

2 күн бұрын

The SF are NOT modelled after the SS

what an utter nonsense...the !first! waffen-ss tanks appeared in 1942!,before that,they were regular infantery regiments/divisions with exactly the same supply of weapons as heer-divisions. Manstein and Guderian applauded several times waffen-ss divisions,which were under their temporary order in letters written to their commanders

The Wehrmacht thought poorly of the SS generals and men. They had no traditions or honor except what they made up along the way. The German Wehrmacht generals were highly educated and trained students of war. Manstein especially was the best German general and arguably the best general in both sides in ww2. A point proven by friend and foe. The SS were staffed by poor quality generals but it soon became apparent they were getting better equipment. The Nazis needed two armies to pit against each other for rivalry purposes but also hitler knew the German Prussian elite officers were only seduced into war by the promise of war itself and that their armies would be rebuilt for glory. The Germans like to fight just so you know. Hitler needed protection from the Wehrmacht in case they rebelled. Manstein was relieved of command at the height of his career and really never lost a battle because of sedition fears.

2:40 the Waffen SS fought resolutely and that is a documented fact which explain why they were constantly at the front! Their performance on the battlefield is well known! History and the enemy can attest to this

@minhthunguyendang9900

2 ай бұрын

NO CONTEST Here

Gotta remember, even though the SS did horible things, they were mostly just following orders, and could of been shot for disobeying orders if they hadn't, as could any soldier, in any army. They did commit more atrocities, but thats because they were more often ordered to commit more extreme orders. As for shooting surrendering soldiers, both sides did. Sometimes managing a group oof surrendered troups is just not practical and coud have endangered the individual soldiers, or even a group of soldiers, and severely compromised thier abolity to complete an asignment or objective they were ordered to accomplish, and thus even endangered a far larger number of thier fellow compatriots. War is a dirty kil or be killed business, and rules of combat sometimes must be seen practically as more like...sugestions, to be followed when possible, but acted on in reality, acording to the circumstances at the time...Take prisioners when possible, but the safety of your troops, and the success of the mission come first. Even the most noble moral US soldier, would be acting criminally, if he put the lives of his fellow troops, ahead of the safety and welfare of the enemy...Dont kid yourself 😮

@adifreitag8579

7 ай бұрын

My respect! A realistic view of war. A war is not a school trip for boarding school students. Every war develops its own dynamics. The line between military necessity and war crimes is not always clear. War is about life and death. Either me or the other person. In every war, war crimes are committed by all sides. Only the victor conceals or legitimizes his war crimes, while the vanquished has to pay for them. The defeated are hanged, the victor receives medals. That's how it is.

@akotarakz

7 ай бұрын

Were people conscripted in the SS or was it all volunteer based ?

@brucenorman8904

2 күн бұрын

FALSE. No Wehrmacht soldier was ever punished for refusing to commit atrocities. Gemrna military law forbade soldiers from engaging in the type of actions that comprised the war crimes. Hitler issued a pre-emptive pardon for such actions by the soldiers right before Barbarossa. There are multiple documented instance of soldiers refusing orders to kill civilians none of those soldiers were punished now the SS may have been subject to such discipline.

I enjoy this channel but you guys, @War Academy, are almost diabolically bad at pronunciation 🥴

As field Marshall's and experienced they knew the potential of the waffen SS. As for the other type of SS I think they dispised them.

I could be wrong, having never known, talked to a SS soldier, they have may better aware of what the fight was really all about, more so, than the average soldier, just following orders!

@PolishBehemoth

8 ай бұрын

You were incorrect. The army high command knew the most.

@wanderingwarrior5626

8 ай бұрын

@@PolishBehemoth Gen. Paulus said after returning to Germany, democracy would be best. Anyone connected to 'real' history knows that is not possible under the centuries old ruling class tyrannical system. So, you are wrong!

Well in my opinion those 3 generals of the German army their conclusions about the Waffen SS were justified. Each of them has their own opinion and knowledge about the SS unit. Since the army was the standard component of their armed forces but still professionalism were shown on every combat and on the field from 1943 till 1945. There are just isolated cases were in the German army and the SS had little bit of disagreement like the weapons, tanks, logistics aside is much more preferable to the Waffen SS units. Where in the German army becomes a second rate forces that’s the reason why those 3 field Marshall won’t like it to happen. Their opinion is that the Waffen SS is an political organization not a fighting force. That’s all folks…just a humble opinion of mine thank you.

For the love of god could you please pronounce the w as v?!

This guy’s got a million dollar voice.

@novadhd

3 ай бұрын

too bad its AI

It’s a shame that WaffenSS soldiers are still discredited when most of them were simply young men like any other soldiers, fulfilling their duty with a high level of bravery, commitment and dedication to their fatherland.

@schepvogelk5971

8 ай бұрын

Yes, and the sovjet nkvd troops were also nice guys.

@user-vw1vf5cw7d

8 ай бұрын

People like panzermayer, peiper etc that executed prisoners deserve no credit or praise regardless of how effective they were on the battlefield

@otfriedschellhas3581

8 ай бұрын

@@user-vw1vf5cw7d hope you apply the same standard to your heroes Patton and Eisenhower who encouraged shooting prisoners of war . Waffen SS were simply used to the merciless spirit of the eastern front and also knew that they could expect no mercy from US troops . Tit for tat.

@Jib223

8 ай бұрын

Except they swore an oath to the nazi party

@user-vw1vf5cw7d

8 ай бұрын

@@otfriedschellhas3581 the Americans are not my heroes. The Americans did a lot of harm in my country. Everyone that executes prisoners is a criminal of war and the same applies for the US Marines that shoot regularly Japanese as an act of revenge, the NKVD that executed thousands axis prisoners, the Japanese, the Turks and whoever else. Of course the same applies for the SS. A war criminal has no honour, no matter the flag and the army he was serving.

Rommels' view was a bucket how ever appears to have clear water, there is doubt in its appearance. So his attitude towards SS was that. A unhygenic water appearing clean, due to their being used on innocents across Europe terribly. How ever Guderian & Manstien were agree able that waffen SS was not professional as Wermacht, still nothing wrong in tea made of such water at times.

Could atleast have paid a real person to voice it, "WAUfen ESESS"

This AI reading things is terrible. I would prefer a real human to mispronounce all the German names. Sheesh.

@Me-fm9zk

8 ай бұрын

Focus on the subject.

Very sad to make 8 minutes of empty blablabla...

Men were heroes,

When are you Americans learn to say FON instead of VON?!

Find someone who can narrate with somewhat correct pronunciation.

These robot AI voices suck. Can't watch what might actually be an interesting video.

Good video....but for heavens sake......learn to pronounce the German words....Waaarfen SS makes my ears bleed. And "v" in German is pronounced as "f".

@waracademy128

5 ай бұрын

Ty man

learn proper pronounciation or ya look amatourish

@commandingjudgedredd1841

8 ай бұрын

Then go find a history channel that pleases you. Simple.

The Waffen SS were political units. They weren't necessarily involved with fighting the war, but, making sure of the political ends of the war. The Waffen SS carried out much of the war crimes.

Rommel didn't understand how to use them he would break up the units and spread them out amongst his regulars. They were easily the best trained soldiers in the world at the time and many militaries have modeled their training on them. They were called Hitler's firefighters because they were always being sent into the most dire situations to save the army.

@Nellis202

4 ай бұрын

Rommel was way overrated 😊

Nobody was closer to God than the Waffen SS

@JDDC-tq7qm

8 ай бұрын

Waffen SS was crushed don't ever bring God name next to these filthy Nazis