Q: Which of these would I support? A: All of the above.

@frasercain

4 жыл бұрын

Okay great, I'll let you know when the voting starts... ;-)

@ccchhhrrriiisss100

4 жыл бұрын

@@frasercain - Haha. If only we could vote for such things!

@Mrbfgray

4 жыл бұрын

@@ccchhhrrriiisss100 Must be ways to contribute cash directly, no?

@imarchello

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mrbfgray Taxes?

@Mrbfgray

2 жыл бұрын

@@imarchello That's very indirect. (I have just a clue what this is about 2 yrs later, lol)

My reason to live: I found this video to be so emotionally charging, both with hope and depression. I am an elder now and the excitement of the almost daily discoveries in physics and astronomy is the primary thing that makes the realities of aging, such as chronic pain and decreasing senses, bearable. In other words, they are literally keeping me alive. So I strive to live another year, to watch the Web telescope's launch, and will be more emotionally involved on that day than any sports fan ever - rooting for its success and deeply fearing any glitch. And now... this wonderful video of future telescopes that, unless there is a miracle breakthrough in the biological or the android sciences, I will have to watch from the Other Side, which I know won't hold the excitement of moment by moment temporal involvement. Oh well, this is still the most interesting time in human history to be alive and we are very lucky to witness it. So I'll quit my sniveling : )

@sebastianmalcolm8771

4 жыл бұрын

Thankyou David for sharing this existential optimism paradox. I hope you can help some other people, especially any young students, become excited about creating a better future for humanity. Consider yourself old & wise enough to give good advice, that'll create a lasting legacy in the memory of people that benefit from a chat with you!

@imdawolfman2698

4 жыл бұрын

Well, @@sebastianmalcolm8771, saying this is 'the most interesting time in human history' doesn't signal optimism, but opportunity. I think the current new generation will be the last of mankind as we have known it. If we don't start working together to solve climate change we'll likely become pre-human with millions of displaced people needing to be exterminated to prevent being over run. That's hardly human. I'm rooting for Artificial Intelligence, which if done right could usher in an age similar to Gene Roddenberry's Utopian vision, Star Trek, and the Post-Human. Machine super intelligence could create the abundance through solving the riddles in physics eliminating fear and making greed obsolete, puting an end to the wastes of war and the famines they cause. Racism could become only a fading, slightly embarrassing memory. Biological and cybernetic advances that could allow some of the young folks alive today to be virtually immortal, if they choose. With toiling like a slave at a spirit numbing job to subsist is replaced by computer and robot created abundance granting us the absolute freedom to pursue our personal happiness and be whatever we chose - artist, dreamer, explorer, etc. And all watched over by machines of loving grace : )

@KevinBustamante

2 жыл бұрын

@@imdawolfman2698 Hey! Did you manage to watch the livestream?

@pesokpesok

2 жыл бұрын

you precisely described me there- i hope to live to see some of the amazing things humanity will discover/invent. people like Trump have tried their damnest to stifle all innovations and regress back to dark ages but thank god there are more forward thinking people in charge now and science has resumed its progress. also i really hope some of the religions are correct and we are able to observe human progress even after death(i know but hopefull thinking)

@SirFaceFone

2 жыл бұрын

I hope you're witnessing the James Webb, which is now unfolding!

This naming scheme is going to run out of hyperbolic adjectives within the next decade.

@esquilax5563

4 жыл бұрын

The mind-bogglingly enormous telescope! The astoundingly gargantuan telescope! It'll become hard to tell which ones are actually bigger

@SubnetMask

4 жыл бұрын

They should call the next one the Medium Sized Telescope, regardless of its size

@ian_b

4 жыл бұрын

@@SubnetMask What about The Quite Big Telescope?

@JohnJohansen2

4 жыл бұрын

@@esquilax5563 The For The Time Being Largest Telescope.

@ecognitio9605

4 жыл бұрын

"The Telescope" * Death Star sized telescope built in the 2500's "You may observe when ready" :D

I want all these scopes NOW. That giant Moon scope with a 3D fab-lab on the Lunar surface sounds great. And do-able.

@frasercain

4 жыл бұрын

Hah, agreed.

@ahaveland

4 жыл бұрын

@@frasercain The telescopes are already in the regolith, just some molecular assembly required.

Hypertelescope at l2 is the way to go I think. With reduction in cost of launching things coming from space x hopefully in the near future, many of these small replaceable scopes will hopefully be appealing from a Financial aspect.

Geez, JWST will be out and I'll be already impatient for yet another telescope. :-)

@frasercain

4 жыл бұрын

That's how this works.

@williambradberry3036

2 жыл бұрын

I’m from the future and JWST has successfully launched hopefully it’ll make it to its destination but so far things are looking very promising

@martinbrinkley4656

2 жыл бұрын

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8:30 Wow, that zoom-in on a black hole is awesome 👍

@frasercain

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it really shows you how deeply they zoomed in.

@PeterHamiltonz

4 жыл бұрын

Heh. I was just watching that bit as I came up to your comment.

This video is very well done. There is a lot of information in here. I had to watch it several times to understand each of these projects. Thanks for taking the time to pull together these sources and making this video!

I believe that the "s" in "fresnel" is silent. I also support every one of these projects. Thank you Fraser!

@Drakcap

4 жыл бұрын

I had to look it up because I'd never heard it pronounced like that before either. Wikipedia says it's an alternative pronunciation.

@martingrundy5475

4 жыл бұрын

I'n not sure but wasn't it named after Fresnel, a French bloke who partly invented and developed it. For Lighthouses I think the original or certainly early uses. Both ways I think are acceptable these days. The S is definitely in use when it is used in it's often used short or truncated form of Fres.

@OdamaKamayuka

4 жыл бұрын

I don't know what is deemed correct or not in English, I can only tell you that the "s" is indeed silent in French.

@PalimpsestProd

4 жыл бұрын

My 2 cents, it's French so the proper pronunciation is French, silent 's'. I've never heard any lighting tech pronounce the 's'.

We need a 1km wide lens space telescope

@Bruh-hq1hx

3 жыл бұрын

@@HiR0SHi.the.D0G thats a nebula

I hope we get all three of these! :D Thanks for sharing the details Fraser!

Always a pleasure to watch your videos Fraser, thanks a lot! The Moon telescope being able to see continents and measure mountain heights is particularly appealing, but it's one of the more expensive options obviously - I'm still hopeful to see something like this happen in the next couple decades seeing how fast SpaceX is progressing as well as the almost successful Lunar probe landings that happened recently, as well as the successful ones of course!

Hypertelescope. Yes please! This is the single most interesting proposal I've seen in a long time. This should get serious funding and backing as this has the potential to be a serious game-changer. The potential of a scaled up version is truly mind-boggling, and the "start small" architecture should be very compelling as it would serve as a proof of concept (to a quite reasonable cost )Before going all in....

@frasercain

4 жыл бұрын

Yup, and it's the one that's probably the farthest along. They've been proposing this system for decades to NASA, ESA and continuing to refine it year after year. They're even building that prototype in France.

happy 2021 fraser! Awesome video!

I am a simple man, I limit my expectation up to LUVOIR. Once it gets placed, will think of the next.

@frasercain

4 жыл бұрын

Hah, it's okay to let your imagination soar once in a while.

Hi Fraser. I just finished reading your book, Ultimate Guide to Viewing the Cosmos. Thanks for inspiring people to explore the universe.

I can just hear the excitement in his voice. Man I hope I get to see stuff like this one day

My favorite would be a 500 million km optical interferometer, but the technical challenges are formidable, so better to start small with a few kilometers aperture. Telescopes on the moon also have an enemy in the form of electrostatically charged dust. Perhaps mounting them high enough would help, but in any case would perform far better than anything on Earth.

@00crashtest

2 жыл бұрын

This is actually possible for a realistic price because you could put several space telescopes at each LaGrange point around Earth. All you need is to sync the signals perfectly. Although not quite 500 million km, it's still a 10 million km virtual lens diameter (distance between L4 and L5 LaGrange points).

@Glen0cide

2 жыл бұрын

@@00crashtest I believe L4 and L5 and much less stable than L2 and L1. Could even go between L2 and L3, a virtual lens 2 Astronomical Units wide! We can dream..

@_TeXoN_

Жыл бұрын

@@Glen0cide How would you correlate L2 with L3? There is a sun in between. L4 and L5 are more stable than L1 or L2. Maybe we will have the technology with LISA and then the Big Bang Observer to sync multiple spacecraft to less than a tenth of a wavelength. I think L2 is most likely. The earth is too thermally instable and the atmospheric effects over larger distances are too different to sync these signals. L4 or L5 would be too far away and therefore unnecessary comlicated.

Always love your super-telescope videos!

@frasercain

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I'll probably do another one in a few months. There are a bunch of ideas.

Great video!❤️

Great Owl at the Moon! Great idea for sure and thumb up!

These telescope names are about to go ludicrous. The ludicrously large telescope

@frasercain

4 жыл бұрын

You've seen this right? xkcd.com/1294/

I try to keep up with the papers and stuff. But i missed 2 of these. Great episode!

Very cool! I like the scalability of the last idea. It should also make it redundant as the individual pieces are expendable and replacements relatively cheap to produce and launch

@frasercain

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's a pretty clever idea, and easy enough to get started on.

Such an exciting time in astronomy. If only all these projects were both funded and close to going live!

The Hypertelescope concept sounds like a winner to me. It's easy to prototype, relatively cheap to build, and it's expandable and updatable over time. It also wouldn't take decades and billions of dollars to implement. I also like that the technologies used are very versatile and useful for other projects as well (low-energy and precise station keeping, formation flying of large constellations, etc.)

Incredible.

Thank you

I'm sure these will all be done eventually, and the last one is probably going to be ongoing with occasional replacement of nodes spread across the solar system for centuries. I only wish I could live to see it get started...

Hey Fraser, awesome video as always. Is there any telescope in the works that could give us an image of a black hole with a better resolution that the one we already have? (Which is still awesome)

Glad to see that David Kipping's Terrascope is getting some recognition!

I like the valley-filling hypertelescope because it not only would get some amazing science done but be a proof of concept for clusters of space telescopes at L2. Tough pick because all projects sound fascinating. Right now it's Tess and James Webb. Great time to be into astronomy.

@frasercain

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, they hypertelescope is probably my favorite project, and it's the one that'll probably get completed first.

Moon ... Hmmm, isnt lunar dust going to be a BIG problem for a telescope ?

Luciola Hyper-telescope seems the most attractive to me. It seems scalable, just adding more units. (How high can it go, max?) It does require a bit of coordination. We also live in an age of computational photography. Plus being able to see the continents directly is way cool !!!!

I think both optical and radio telescopes on the far side of the Moon make a lot of sense, because they would be static, making interferometry easier. Something like the descent stage of the LM or Blue Origin’s lander could be used to land telescopes on the Moon. It would need elaborate fold out solar panels, and batteries to power it through the two week lunar night, and an orbiting relay satellite to get the data back to Earth. The last topic of your video on the large flotilla of very small telescopes also makes a lot of sense.

Super subject! I'm sure different concepts are still being thinking. Are there competitions organized by Nasa soon?

Fascinating...like a nano scooe

Waiting for Aliens😁

I think the *We-can-see-further-than-anybody-else Telescope* would be pretty good name

The last one seems like the most viable. It could start out small with low costs and then be expanded and upgraded over time.

What is the benefit of having a telescope on the moon versus having it in space? To me it sounds like putting the telescope on the moon doesn't really have any positives?

@3gunslingers

4 жыл бұрын

It makes only sense if you can use local resources for construction.

@jamesdriscoll9405

4 жыл бұрын

I agree, for most cases. I think lunar material, like regolith, can supply raw material, but from most practical engineering angles, orbiting in free space is the better option. Especially if you want to really scale it up. In the near term smaller observatories may be reasonable, and easy to approve, as they would have the ability to observe earth (space force $$). Radio telescopes can take advantage of shadowing on the far side, and radio antennae are more electronic than optical. But for ground breaking size, orbit in free space has the advantages.

@georgecozma8376

4 жыл бұрын

You don't have to spend any energy to keep the array of satellites in the same relative position to one another since, you know, there's actual ground keeping them in place. Plus, if you have a human presence there, it is easier to perform maintenance.

@erwinlommer197

4 жыл бұрын

@@georgecozma8376 But you could also the human maintenance factor is true for space telescopes as well. If if you have human presence the maintenance becomes easier. So why not put telescope on the ISS?

@3gunslingers

4 жыл бұрын

@@erwinlommer197 It's really difficult to keep a telescope pointed in one direction when your "ground" circles the earth once every 90 minutes. Usually astronomers want that their telescopes keep their targets in the focus as long as they can to gather all light possible. So this would be a pro argument for the back side of the moon. A very stable and slow moving "platform" that also blocks all stray light from the sun.

which one? I am still dazzled! Thank you, Sir ! May I have another one, Sir!

@frasercain

4 жыл бұрын

No problem, I'll probably do another video on even more of them.

I'm a big fan of the "compound eye"

I like them all, but number 3 is especially cool. Better than spending a 13 billion $$ on another battleship. BTW, thanks so mush for this video, very interesting information. Sparks the imagination.

To quote a wise man, gravity wells are for suckers.

@frasercain

4 жыл бұрын

Space is the place.

@feynstein1004

4 жыл бұрын

And who is that wise man? For research purposes

@Tehom1

4 жыл бұрын

@@feynstein1004 To research that, watch all of Fraser's videos. Particularly the ones where he says "gravity wells are for suckers". That should help answer it.

@feynstein1004

4 жыл бұрын

@Tehom Oh haha okay

The moon would be a good place for a large liquid metal spun mirror.

Starship 2.0 could launch a 30 meter luvoir telescope.

@frasercain

4 жыл бұрын

Or a whole stack of Nautilus telescopes.

@user-lv7ph7hs7l

4 жыл бұрын

Or 600 ish tons worth of mirrors to be assembled on orbit. Make it modular and add a few thousand tons worth of mirrors a year until we're at something the size of a small moon. Then spy on aliens. I wonder what size mirror would be required to read a newspaper on Alpha Centauri, provided the lighting's right.

@ahaveland

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-lv7ph7hs7l What size mirror to read a newspaper (near!) Alpha Centauri? You can work it out using the telescope aperture equation for angular resolution, θ = 1.220 λ/D. I don't think you'll like the answer!

@user-lv7ph7hs7l

4 жыл бұрын

@@ahaveland I'm too lazy to figure out what a newspaperprint is in arcseconds :D But thanks for the formula, should have known that.

@ahaveland

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-lv7ph7hs7l θ = 1.220 λ/D therefore D = 1.220 λ / θ θ = tan(resolution / distance) Assume resolution 1mm to read text: θ = 0.001 m / 41.32 trillion km θ = tan(10⁻³ m/ 4.132×10¹⁶ m) θ = 4.224×10⁻²² radians D = 4.224×10⁻²² / (1.22 × 555 nm) D = 4.224×10⁻²² / (1.22 × 5.55×10⁻⁷) 1.6×10¹⁵ m = about 11000 AU or 0.17 light year. Clearly a bit beyond our current technology.

awesome fraser thanks. i saw something similar and have been thinking about what is ultimately possible with space telescopes. i have a question for anybody regarding a big moon telescope: isnt that impossible because moonbro is constantly bombarded by micrometeorites (and some not so micro)?

Hi. I was guessing on where a telescope should be to use the moon as the magnifying glass ? Would it be possible to have something stabilized? Would it worth its value?

Pretty epic when you make my google news feed WTG!

@frasercain

4 жыл бұрын

Oh cool. 😀

Future seems great!

@frasercain

4 жыл бұрын

Yup!

How we could protect a large optical telescope on the Moon from lunar dust, considering its properties observed during the Apollo missions - if, in the first place, that would be an issue?

That third telescope idea: would it work with cubesats in low earth orbit too?

@lars_vs

4 жыл бұрын

Correction: geostationary orbit, just to be far away from earth to actually make it possible to receive reflected light without earth blocking it.

@frasercain

4 жыл бұрын

I think you want it in a location that's far enough away from Earth to remain stable, and get a clear view of the sky. That's why everyone likes L2.

So a question popped into my brain… Could there be a way to collect energy from cosmic background radiation to perhaps power a spacecraft or other things?

Hi Fraser, if we build the very large telescope in moon. How we will protect that with the meteorites impact? Is that the real threat to worry about?

Could these telescopes take the place of luvoir also about a statistical survey of exoplanets? Analyzing a lot of planets and checking which have an abundant quantity of some elements like water and oxygen, letting a more specific study to projects like habex or these sphere telescope?

Designing LUVOIR will take time. I wonder maybe they will upgrade LUVOIR to be a better match for Starship

Yes, please! :-)

How would Nautilius increase resolution if it were not an interferometer (signals not synced)? Also, why not make a space telescope interferometer as big as the span between the L4 and L5 LaGrange points of Earth if only the signals need syncing? Theoretically, that would need only 1 telescope at each LaGrange point, 2 in total, though 6 is preferred to rule out random noise from cosmic rays.

Space balloon telescopes 🔭? So forking cool

I really wondered if you could use water or a metallic liquid when there is absolutely no movement in the atmosphere? To create a huge mirror

Oh, I like the last one, I call it the “Swarmscope”.

Heres another idea based on gravitational lensing. James Webb will have a circular orbit around the L2 point. (How, I dont know, since there's no physical object there, but that's beside the point) The point is, Webb will be following a curved path imparted by some force. Now, it's pretty handy that the space that Webb is orbiting is empty, yet can cause a physical object to follow a curved path. It should affect light in the same way. Meaning gravitational lensing must be occurring. How strongly, I don't know... But here's the plan: at the L2 location, use lasers to create a grid, and use super accurate clocks to map out the deformation of that laser light in the L2 space. Once you know how L2 bends space, turn off the lasers and apply your knowledge of the gravitational deformation to gathered starlight. Computers would then be used to computationally "bend" the starlight that has been gathered into an image. I will likely be dead before they can build this (assuming the idea is workable), so they can name it after me or my pseudonym, Sparkleface.

Ludicrous telescope now!!!! Next: The Plaid Telescope😁

When every space telescope video from Fraser embodies our frustrations over the delays with the JWST. 😖

You should add in solar gravitational lensing probe.

Man Starship would be perfect for the hypertelescope, it could probably deploy 100 at once depending on how fast they want to scale things etc..

Hi Fraser. Using any lenses in telescopes instead of mirrors, doesn’t matter how sophisticated they are, is a bad idea. You know it. Because of the refraction itself. The bigger the lenses the bigger the problem of diffraction. The only way to use lenses is using filters that allow using only one particular wavelength and adjusting focal distance for this wavelength.

@frasercain

4 жыл бұрын

Only the Nautilus telescope uses lenses, and they're not traditional diffractive lenses. Any way, read the paper. :-)

You know.... I wonder... what if one could make a hypertelescope double as a space based gravitational wave observatory? Both require a precise formation of spacecraft

Just a quick question that popped into my brain. Since there is an Event Horizon around us where things are moving away from us at the speed of light, would that horizon be emitting Hawking Radiation? Thanks Fraser!

@michaelspence2508

4 жыл бұрын

Sort of? PBS Space Time has a good videon on Unruh radiation.

I like the way this guy thinks; to make a telescope just to look a planets, and to spend everything on that...

Another great video Fraser. It's so gutting that we, humans, don't put more effort and resources into science and space exploration. Just think how far we'd have got had humans not been stalled by the space shuttle program, or the dark ages... 🙄🤔😂

@frasercain

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot, I'm glad you enjoyed it. Sometimes progress looks like learning from your mistakes too.

@stewitr

4 жыл бұрын

@@frasercain indeed they do. I just wish we were a bit further along the space fairing technology timeline...

Would the successive waves of hyper telescope parts then fly towards L2 and possibly damage other space assets with all that solar pressure or rather fall towards the earth.

The arrays would be the most realistic projects as they allow to build and position a lot of small units built-in series rather than a single massive module or building. A dense array of many 8+ m mirrors on the Lunar surface would be easier to set up than a single 100 m mirror (like a very large VLT or a whole array of Giant Magellan Telescopes ideally set up in a permanently shaded polar crater).

@frasercain

4 жыл бұрын

Once they get the lunar village built, we'll see different ideas tested out. The trick, of course, is getting that lunar village. :-)

Honestly there are a lot of Telescopes with a total budget of over 1 billion dollars. It always depends, if you only take the cost of the main institution or if you factor in all the external instruments, operations, data processing and scientists. Just to name a few with a total cost over 1 billion dollars: Hubble, ALMA, Gaia, ELT, Euclid, JWST

I want us to build a telescope like the one in Piers Anthony's book "Macroscope".

Just read the article about Northrop Grumman’s MEB-1 “tug” satellite. That deserves its own episode ! Amazing

@frasercain

4 жыл бұрын

I've got an episode in the works all about satellite servicing and recovery.

Would it be dangerous to put a telescope on the moon without an atmosphere to burn up falling dust and meteorites? we would have to be able to replace or repair the mirrors cheaply.

What about a telescope base on solar sail technology. Design it so that when the telescope is spun up to the rotation rate you want the mylar film forms a parabolic surface. Eventually I can seen telescopes being built that are 1000 km in diameter

Question: Would it be easier to construct a large telescope mirror on the Moon because of the lower gravity? Why is making large telescopes so expensive in the first place? Especially if you make them out of many smaller mirrors which should make manufacturing easier.

I propose a telescope called "Gargantuan." It'll be the size of our solar system.

@frasercain

4 жыл бұрын

Sounds great, let me know when you've got a paper published and I'll cover it.

@aikonomic

4 жыл бұрын

@@frasercain That's it. That's the paper right there. What more do you need? 😊

@nathanlewis42

4 жыл бұрын

I propose a telescope the size of our galaxy.

@kurtu5

4 жыл бұрын

@@nathanlewis42 I propose one the size of the Hubble Volume.

I only wish to live long enough to see a 1 km wide radio telescope constructed inside of a crater on the dark side of the Moon.

I thought you were gonna talk about the ARGOT telescope (Absurdly Ridiculously Gigantic Orbital Telescope, to be launched in sections aboard several Starships 2.0, and assembled by astronauts near ISS) *Swarms of small, rearranging space telescopes sounds like the way forward!

Here is a crazy plan: 1. Invent instantaneous travel 2. Instantaneously transport a fleet of self replicating robots 66-68 million light-years away 3. Task them with making a stupidly large telescope 4. Take a picture of a t-rex 5. Mystery of weather or not the t-rex had feathers solved.

@user-yj7ks9mb1e

4 жыл бұрын

Lol

@frasercain

4 жыл бұрын

Sounds great. Let me know when any of those steps are complete. :-)

@glyngreen538

4 жыл бұрын

Heh :) Or just ask the neighbourhood aliens 66 milion light years away to email us over photos of a t-rex with their hyper telescopes?

Great research Fraser. it's an exciting time to speculate on new off world technologies. I believe we are fast realising Elon Musk's dream of becoming a multi planet species. Soon our solar system will be awash with all the manner of unique infrastructure designed for low and zero G environments. Astronomy is perfect as a trail blazer as it's a big ticket item ideally manufactured in space away from Earth's pesky gravity well. I was impressed by all these speculative projects. One day we'll look back and say incredulously 'they used to make that stuff on Earth, Seriously! Were they insane?'

OWL moon !

Future man here: Webb made it, but Earth has fallen.

"The challenge with building a gigantic telescope on the moon is -- building a gigantic telescope on the moon!"

JWST keep getting more and more insane. Budget Estimates now exceed 10 BILLION USD, and as mentioned in this video, the 100meter (~300ft) European telescope that could have directly imaged distant exoplanets was put on ice since it was expected to cost 1 (one!) BILLION USD. So for the same Money as is already spent on JWST we could have had 10(!) 100meter Earth based telescopes comming on line shortly…. Madness!

@frasercain

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, although a telescope that big probably would have gone overbudget too. But then with the lessons learned, they could build 9 more. :-)

cool ideas i have an idea too, why not make a solarscope, using relativistic lensing from the sun, and put a telescope on pluto, the focal length will be 39U cool right? and the other idea is a swarmscope, or dysonscope, self-replicating robots that transform every star system into a dysonscope so that we can use interferometry on interstellar scales, we can even see dynosaurs on some exoplanets on some distant galaxy on another distant super-cluster i wonder if this self-replicating thing end transforming the whole galaxy into a galaxyscope tho

Go Labeyrie for the Hypertelescope !

lol why arent we starting this luciola now xD

Curious, what is the music at 8:30?

@Drakcap

4 жыл бұрын

It's "Technology Music" by Bobby Cole and available on Audioblocks: www.audioblocks.com/stock-audio/technology-music-rlbgkkahivrk0wy4djx.html

Geeze, that first telescope might invade the privacy of an alien who just got home from work and wanted to take her bra off

In 2052: "We obviously cannot inset these observatories into L2, since it is completely flooded with space debris, however... "

only a billion dollars for such a telescope? Man, sign me up!

Was the singularity the whole universe shrunken smaller, or the whole universe crammed in a smaller "space"?

I always find it hard to get excited about projects, that haven't even a green light to build it. Even some telescopes that have a go are and were in real trouble (TMT, JWST). As for projects I hope that interferometry (direct, indirect) gets way better (cheaper, easier installation and usage, less light loss, longer baselines). And there is some work going into that direction. Fewer mirrors more quantum-thingies and glass fiber. Then, super cheap, lightweight, 3d printed mirrors would be great. And a lot of projects would benefit from it - Colossus telescope would be only one of them. And somehow I'm really rooting for the CTA-South and north. The science behind this is just mind-bogglingly fascinating. It seems to make so much sense to look further in to the terrascope concept. I would have no regret at all to skip Luvoir, if it would actually move those three things forward.

@frasercain

3 жыл бұрын

What about projects which are just about to see first light? Like Vera Rubin or the E-ELT? We want to be excited for the stuff just around the corner and dream about what's possible. We can do both at the same time.

@Beerenkomplott

3 жыл бұрын

@@frasercain I'm so sorry that I didn't notice your reply. You are right we can be excited about both. I'm simply someone who needs to see some ongoing work put into a project. But I want to tell you about my personal favorite time of the year when it comes to space related dreams. It's normally the fourth week of September. Why? It's the week when the videos from the NIAC Symposium go online. I'm in love with those, because people are putting some serious work into carving out pathways that bring ideas a bit more into reality.

The darkside has long been the best site in the system for radio astronomy. INSUTU is the only way to go.

Do you know if anyone has considered the Starship as a lifter/lander/tug (due to radiation and low g concerns), and just have the thing build a 'transport' station, using Bigelow inflatable units (very similar to The Gateway Foundation's Von Braun Station). Get a few of those built and operational, then Starship can Tug-boat those to the destination, detach, then land it's load, all the while keeping a command presence in orbit, and mitigating the radiation and low g concerns with a proper Space Station...