What the freak did I just watch??? I'm sorry but if these a representation of the teachers at BYU It's a hard pass for me recommending this school to anyone. I have never heard so much ignorance in such a short time.

If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:.. These people do NOT bring his Gospel!

@autumnivyhowe3775

Жыл бұрын

I don't see that teaching racial equality and the lasting problems that are interwoven into the systems our society depends on is against our doctrine. The book of Mormon doesn't refute this. It doesn't align with your political views. But there are member who also don't share your political views.

As a new-ish member of the Church, I just don’t understand why we aren’t more “of one mind” when it comes to political ideology and the factors that contribute to it. I guarantee you that every single one of the people in this video votes Democrat and calls himself/herself a liberal or a progressive (not the same thing, but still Left). I, on the other hand, become more politically conservative the more I know about the restored gospel. Someone please help me understand this divide. How can we know the same restored truths and yet go in completely different directions, politically?

@cheryljennings3292

2 жыл бұрын

I have these same thoughts.

@FromG2eminor

2 жыл бұрын

Been like this from the beginning of time. People being taught the true path but being deceived by another. It is sad and literally heart breaking.

@jandjhirst

2 жыл бұрын

The wheat and the tares must be allowed to grow together for a time. If you pluck out the tares too early, you'll destroy the wheat as well. This is a pattern that is true individually in our lives (sometimes we just aren't ready for certain commandments so God gives us time to develop) as well as institutionally. There are certainly problems with conservatism as well. Idolizing the state and political leaders (seeking a "king") has been a problem on the right as well as on the left, and conservatives have historically gone back and forth on issues such as wars and supporting corporatism. I think that right now, the sins of the left are more obvious and flagrant, but ultimately, I think as members of the Church, we all should be moving in the direction of promoting freedom, rather than thinking in terms of a specific political party or ideology. Also it's true that the political left does have lots of good goals that we align with in the Church (caring for the poor, being good stewards of the earth, seeking equality), we just disagree on the means of achieving those goals (through a voluntary Zion society versus a coercive government institution). Personally, I've found much more truth in what I guess we would call "libertarianism" today, at least as far as it is a political ideology. The progressives and the conservatives each have their merits and their downfalls. I think ideally we would have a minimal government to maintain peace and freedom, and all other social goals would be achieved through voluntary social arrangements, such as the family, local communities, and the Church.

@Mcmj-ot4dt

2 жыл бұрын

The Left is weaponizing our empathy.

@dancole3187

2 жыл бұрын

@bkgoulding That's a really great question you have. I think it all boils down to individual agency and that fact that just because someone has received the truth doesn't mean they will live in harmony with the truth. Remember that one third of heaven rebelled against Heavenly Father. These were our brothers and sisters we knew and loved. It must have truly broken our hearts to have seen them rebel and fall away. Here on earth, remember parable of the ten virgins directly references the members of the church in the latter days. Ten were wise, and ten were foolish. Half of the members of the church will not be prepared for an event or process we will witness in coming days. My heart aches for them as well. The best thing we can do for them is to be an example of following Christ by following His chosen servants.

My niece who just graduated from BYU told me it was common for girls to be walking around in exercise bras and leggings, midriffs exposed, and not be asked to leave campus or class. That was NOT the case 20 years ago! Just another symptom of how people's priorities and ideologies have changed.

Boy, I hope the church gets a handle on this because it looks like it's deeply entrenched.. Very sad to see. I'm an alumni of BYU and will no longer give them any Consideration. I'm also the Bishop of my ward and will not recommend ,at least Outwardly ,BYU.

I’ve served as a Bp in the church twice as well as other callings that had me working very closely with kids, adolescents and young adults. Greg I can’t thank you enough for exposing this cancer that has sprung up in the church. I began to notice this in lds young adults as much as 25 years ago. What was then along the fringes has now infected even these BYU professors. Sunday I met personally with my stake president to be sure he was aware of this. I think as rank and file members we should contact our ward/stake leaders and even headquarters to let them know of this problem and offering our support at distinguishing it. God bless you Greg! Stay healthy brother!

"When they are learned, they think they are wise."

It is sad to say but BYU has sort of become the "great and spacious building."

@williamturner6192

2 жыл бұрын

No, it's just been infiltrated by intersectional marxists and such.

@gomcse

2 жыл бұрын

@@williamturner6192 yes and no. If church leadership allows this to continue, we have nowhere to go. BYU is a diploma mill for BLM, Marxism and CRT falsehoods. Kendi is the BYU prophet now. They mock the truth, they point the finger, and they invite all to join the world. That makes them part of the Great and Spacious Building.

@jacobfisher1010

2 жыл бұрын

As it is a university, yes it is. It has certainly become more so in the last decade which makes me sad. Luckily though, the building is spacious, so it let's us more sane students distance ourselves from professors like this

@kathyflinn8070

2 жыл бұрын

Jesus is a Jew, not white

@stacihymas4539

2 жыл бұрын

He may be a Jew, but his Father in Heaven is purely bright. So who knows what he looked like. ?

The philosophies of men mingled with scripture

This makes me furious. To whatever extent tithing supports this, it is unacceptable.

@thunderandrain09

2 жыл бұрын

As was suggested in an earlier response to a comment, letters should be written by anyone who is alarmed about this, to: Elder Jeffery R Holland President Kevin Worthen Elder Dallin H. Oaks Bro. Clark Gilbert Please encourage those of like minds to do the same.

If BYU is to be preserved as a recognizable LDS university, there will have to be reforms in administration and overhaul of procedure by which faculty are hired.

@k4949

2 жыл бұрын

Yep.

This is just gross. So glad I've nearly convinced my own children to skip college and find success on an alternative path.

@emjames9865

2 жыл бұрын

Same.

Hey, I am a byu student. I'm an admin on an Instagram page called BYU conservatives. We just had a teacher threatening everyone associated with the page with a report to the honor code office over us posting a picture of an assignment asking students to take pictures of whiteness on campus. It included several Robin DiAngelo quotes. Would you be interested in more info about this?

@CwicShow

2 жыл бұрын

You can get a hold of me here - www.cwicmedia.com/contact

@davidswanson5669

2 жыл бұрын

Which professor was it?

@lukehanson_

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidswanson5669 We are currently keeping that anonymous. As BYU students you have to worry about the honor code office. Another professor messages us privately and said the honor code office can be brutal. Don't know if it's true or not, but can't take my chances.

@TypeAndShadow

2 жыл бұрын

Our prayers are with you. Sorry you have to tread lightly!

@lukehanson_

2 жыл бұрын

@@TypeAndShadow Thanks!

00:15:40 one dream must die so someone else can have a dream? Scary stuff

There was a time when a BYU degree meant more than a typical education, now the institution is more "of" the world than just "in"the world...

@carlatamanczyk3891

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately true.

@icecreamladydriver1606

2 жыл бұрын

Yes and guess who allowed that to happen. It didn't happen over night.

@silbannacusofoxyrhynchus6096

2 жыл бұрын

BYU is not even close to being as bad as other universities. We want to keep it distinct from the world-and it will be. Race Marxism is being challenged

@waitaminutedoggie8048

2 жыл бұрын

@@silbannacusofoxyrhynchus6096 The loss of the cultural heritage of Utah Valley indicates otherwise. There's not much remaining to challenge the world there. I am sorry, it is where I grew up and its loss saddens me deeply.

@madvinmryk

2 жыл бұрын

@@silbannacusofoxyrhynchus6096 Where much is given, much is expected. BYU has sunk to a new low.

I have been teaching my 41/2 years old grandson how to discern satan and Jesus Christ. Since satan doesn’t have a body, the best thing to discern a situation or a person is how he/she acts, speaks and thinks. It is not how we feel, it is how we know Him and His teaching. Jesus taught us that the fruit of the Spirit is Love, Joy, Peace, Patient, Kindness, Goodness, Faithfulness, Gentleness and Self-control. I don’t see colors and I don’t care about black, white, brown, red and yellow. I only look at the heart and intentions of an human being. Thank you for this video.

I would say that a strong alumni response to the university to the point that we will give no more donations to the university until they root out CRT from the university. I know I for one will not donate until this is stamped out.

Truly unbelievable that this could be associated with BYU.

@guardianangel9517

2 жыл бұрын

🙏🏼AGREED

@aussieragdoll4840

2 жыл бұрын

What? Teaching that anti racism is a religious imperative? We were told exactly that in General Conference. Or were you not listening?

@aussieragdoll4840

2 жыл бұрын

@@sukt00 I’m not the one who is denying what has been taught at General Conference. That would be YOU. If anyone needs to get on their knees and repent, it would be YOU, not me,

@dmandrewsauthor

2 жыл бұрын

@@aussieragdoll4840 I am against racism, which is why I am against the anti-white racism being promoted in the name of "anti-racism" by CRT and other woke movements. This is a clear example of black being called white and white being called black (no pun intended) that Isaiah warned us about. It is a facet of a theme in our world today where bad things are being promoted under the guise of noble things - hence we have conformity in the name of diversity, inequality before the law in the name of equality, fascism in the name of anti-fascism, sexism in the name of anti-sexism, exclusivity in the name of inclusivity. The list goes on. We need to be discerning. I stand with the Brethren.

@kelaarin

2 жыл бұрын

@@aussieragdoll4840 "Anti-racism" is racism against whites. Open your eyes, please.

Greg hope you’re feeling better and I just wanted to give you props for all the videos you make. It’s obvious that you do your due diligence with the videos quotes and excerpts that you’re able to share to back up your perspective. Thanks for letting me push back on some of the ideas.

This hurts my heart and brain.... They are so busy trying to change everyone else to their ideology. Towards the Savior is the only direction we should turn our direction as individuals!

@bennettgraff7883

2 жыл бұрын

The savior taught about equitable social justice on many occasions, especially in the sermon on the mount. Why are you opposed to people studying it in an academic context? Just because you don't agree with an idea doesn't make it unchristian.

@FromG2eminor

2 жыл бұрын

@@bennettgraff7883 Jesus Christ taught EQUALITY. He is no respector of persons. He taught that ALL are fallen. ALL of us are his children. He invites ALL to come to him, have faith in him and repent and be baptized make and keep covenants. The Lord's Prohphets have not taught that Social Justice is of God. I love learning and being uplifted by many topics on this earth. The things I have learned about social justice and equity is that it does divide and creates contention which is not of the Lord. I don't want to feel forced to think less of someone else because of color or anything else. Everyone has a choice EQUALLY to follow commandments or not. "Choose YOU this day whom ye will serve. As for me I will choose the Lord"

@bennettgraff7883

2 жыл бұрын

@@FromG2eminor it's only divisive because people don't like to acknowledge inequality, it's inherently uncomfortable. Complaining that justice is uncomfortable isnt a reasonable excuse. You're not expected to think less of anyone, just level the playing field through equity. To say that prophets have said social justice isn't of God would be inaccurate, it's thoroughly addressed in the New and Old Testament and Book of Mormon, we just use different terms and frameworks today. The only difference is it focuses on issues specific to those contexts. The law of Moses addresses contemporary social justice issues of the time extensively. There are thousands of years worth of historical and prophetic precedent for this. People are inherently equal in value but examples like the laborers in the vineyard or Christ's healing of the blind man, demonstrate that equity is a necessity to counter injustices. Both of these directly address the discomfort of people who were opposed to the social justice of the time. Social justice has always been an uncomfortable process, it's been divisive at times as for some people as well, but you can't say that it's not a priority, it always has been because it's worthwhile. I don't mean any of this to be personally disparaging towards you, but as someone familiar with most of what they're talking about, it just seems like you're not understanding what they're addressing in its context

Back in the early 90's, BYU had an email server that was open to the general public. They hosted an email list called MORMON-L, which I joined -- assuming, incorrectly, that something with that name from that organization would be an uplifting experience. One of the first messages I got had a subject line of: "How feminism could have saved the Nephites." I did a little research into the list history, and this conversation had been going on for a while, with two camps (pro and con). Being young, dumb, and stupid, I replied with something decidedly CON, and used GenConf quotes and scriptures to back up my points. Bottom line, I said, it was probably those kinds of things that destroyed them. I broke three cardinal rules when debating with the anti-mormon zoobies: 1) I disagreed with them, 2) I quoted actual scriptures, and 3) I quoted General Authorities. After a couple of weeks posting several emails a day in this debate, three well dressed men (30's, give or take), came to my office, and asked the receptionist to call me to the front. She did; I came (no clue who they were). We went outside and they (literally!!!!) threatened my life if I did not stop my posts. No veiled threats (like "something could happen to you"), but a direct threat ("If you keep this up, we WILL hunt you down and kill you!). I then broke a fourth cardinal rule with debating anti-mormon zoobies: I ignored their threats. Instead, I went back to my desk and told the whole list what just happened, and described the three men, as well as the driver of the car waiting for them. I called the police and gave them the license plate of the car. If there is anyone out there who believes this anti rhetoric at BYU is something brand new, let me tell you, it is not. It was already well entrenched by the mid 1990's.

@ldsinks1

2 жыл бұрын

😮

@k4949

2 жыл бұрын

😯😯😯

@icecreamladydriver1606

2 жыл бұрын

This is what has me so upset with the church leadership. They live in an ivory tower and let their advisors tell them lies. I have a testimony of the Book of Mormon and the church but not the leaders we have had for a good many years. I place my trust in and follow Christ not the prophet. I think a horrible mistake was made when they made the church, whatever that number is, so they wouldn't have to pay taxes. They have become terribly rich and protect it very carefully. Big mistake.

@sadiegirl1243

2 жыл бұрын

Did you get a follow up report from the police? Any feedback in that email thread? Very interesting and thank you for sharing.

@guardianangel9517

2 жыл бұрын

@@icecreamladydriver1606 That's BULL! Jesus has ALWAYS had prophets for His people (minus the apostasy), and at SOME POINT, humans get wicked, unbelieving, and eventually destroyed.. Do you not see that pattern ALL throughout the scriptures? Faith in what's true isn't always easy, but I've found that it PAYS OFF when I just hang in there, pray about what I may feel at odds with, and soon the understanding is REVEALED to me for my faithfulness. You have to be SOLID and have PATIENCE, and it works out WONDERFULLY ❣ Besides that.. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints helps people ALL over the world, ALL the time. Donating MILLIONS of dollars to feeding people, getting clean water, education, housing, medicine, etc... If you were an active member you would KNOW that, but either way, nobody's bad efforts will STOP Jesus Christ's will and purposes 🙏🏼🤍🕊

This needs to be squashed yesterday and if these people work for BYU they need to be fired.

I've commented once already but I'm not going to look to some "educated" professor to tell me how I should rethink Christ. Fortunately, the Holy Ghost testifies of Him to me and clarifies the bs of an "educated " man.

@jlf9999

2 жыл бұрын

Seems to me the right call Brother Wilde.

These foundational ideas are rotten to the core, seriously lacking academic rigor, and it's terrible to see members of the church (professors!) using sophistry to connect it to the gospel of Jesus Christ when it's so contrary to the truths of the gospel.

@CwicShow

2 жыл бұрын

This is the biggest problem.

I pray that students are pushing back against this. Unfortunately too often students put their teachers on a pedestal and take their words as gospel, when it is not. They no longer teach critical thinking. They teach critical theory.

@ej1597

2 жыл бұрын

if students aren't' pushing back, parents are... by finding more suitable places of learning for their children

@RichardChappell1

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, far too many members are sending their kids to BYU primarily because they believe it to be safe from those negative influences. That makes BYU far more dangerous than other universities. LDS kids expect to be challenged in other universities.

@llharris4837

2 жыл бұрын

One possibility of the "no push back" by the students, could be that their grade depends on agreeing with the instructor/professor.

@rconger384

2 жыл бұрын

@@wademitchell3817 Have you considered there is ample proof that it is a Cultural Marxism Conspiracy Fact?

@unknownname8591

2 жыл бұрын

@@llharris4837 true, as Ben Shapiro would say, pretend you agree with them so you get good grades, then when you graduate go into institutions and change them from within, oddly enough pretending you agree makes it easier to graduate with awesome grades XD, look at Crowder pretending to be an expert on* Fat Studies, and having his work being recognized by other Fat Studies experts, he was recognized as an expert too haha

Pardon my vernacular...but what the hell?

@TypeAndShadow

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@patrickluchycky1172

2 жыл бұрын

No pardons needed. Laconic and precise.

@svensorensen7693

2 жыл бұрын

It's exactly where this is coming from, so...

To think these people are shaping the futures of the students at BYU is horrifying.

I've always admired the doctrine of the family- the role of the Father and Mother, husband, wife, son, daughter, brother, sister as Inherently taught by correct principles in the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints... But this non sense reeks of counterfeit indoctrination

The one good thing that came from Covid19 restrictions is that we now have some idea of what some teachers are teaching. 🤔

This is taken right from Lehi’s vision of the Tree. After tasting of the fruit many were ashamed of those mocking them from the spacious building that they to wandered off the path and were lost. The spirit of Sherem, Nehor, and Korihor has returned.

Sad. I attended BYU during the 1990s and I don't remember anything like this then, but perhaps it simply wasn't as widespread. Jesus Christ came the first time as a lamb to free us from both sin (on conditions of repentance) and death. Those were always the most important things from which we need to be saved. He will come again as a lion to free us from both tyranny and persecution---but not the perverted sense of oppression that the Marxists preach. His way is not one of political collectivism, but of free will and moral agency. His way is not one of groupthink and race/class/sex/etc warfare, but one of uniting as individuals around what's true-and-right. His way is not one of pride and enmity and division and contention, but one of humility and charity and unity and peace.

@kerrythompson9506

2 жыл бұрын

I've heard it said that he won't come until we've established Zion. We need to do that work. He can't establish Zion for us.

@rodneyross607

2 жыл бұрын

@@kerrythompson9506 I don't see anything in the comments about these comments on this video that exemplify humility, charity, unity, and peace. I do see fear and hate with an unwillingness to try to understand the point of view of another. Why can't we just follow the prophet's injunction to root out racism in ourselves and others? That takes some humility, not what I see here.

@DaveGarber1975

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, we do need to establish Zion. The sifting between the two great churches has already begun to divide the tares from the wheat. If I understand correctly, intense persecution will come, but the wicked will ultimately be repulsed and then begin to war amongst themselves. As the wicked cleanse each other from the Earth, even by fire, there will be peace again here in Utah. And we can establish Zion amongst us. Or something like that. I'm still trying to figure it all out.

@rodneyross607

2 жыл бұрын

@@DaveGarber1975 Great comment. I'm still trying to figure it out too. My concern is that those who view different opinions as a threat will also want to expel those who hold them from Zion. We all need to come together and work for a Zion society. We all have a ways to go.

I am SOOOOO glad my daughter is no longer attending BYU. I wouldn’t pay for BYU education these days. No way.

@jaredkmcbride

2 жыл бұрын

If you pay tithing then yes you are paying for a byu education , maybe not for yourself but for others. Byu is heavily funded by tithing dollars.

@amill1776

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaredkmcbride Was about to say the same thing. Makes me sick too.

@tracykeeney8543

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaredkmcbride A valid point. But I’m not going to stop paying tithing. I’m under covenant to pay it, not decide where it goes. Only one part of that equation is my responsibility, and I’ll keep my end. That doesn’t stop me from writing a letter to headquarters though. 😁

@unknownname8591

2 жыл бұрын

@@tracykeeney8543 very true! Understanding the terms and conditions of the Law of Tithing is very important, I will do the same as you said.

How long before a cleaning?

@ej1597

2 жыл бұрын

Amen. Much needed and apparently not soon enough.

@llharris4837

2 жыл бұрын

You know that whole the earth will be burned thing? Maybe that's where the whole global warming is going to come in handy (just a little tongue in cheek) 😉

@madvinmryk

2 жыл бұрын

@@llharris4837 Zion on earth will be preserved. The wicked will be burned.

I graduated from BYU five years ago, and this makes me sick.

Greg, what do you think an appropriate way to reach out to the church on this would be?

@CwicShow

2 жыл бұрын

I would write letters to Elder Oaks, Elder Holland, Elder Clark G. Gilbert, and President Worthen.

@mclassie77

2 жыл бұрын

Have Pres. Oaks, Elder Holland, Elder Gilbert and Pres. Worthen been sent these videos?

@stacihymas4539

2 жыл бұрын

I had President Samuelson when I went to BYU. He was very firm in his stances. Now I see how good that was. I never have felt comfortable having President Worthen there. There is no light in his eyes.

@bkgoulding

2 жыл бұрын

How could President Worthen be unaware? On the other hand, Elder Holland praised him in his campus talk a few months ago. So… I’m confused. Is President Worthen in favor of this direction or not? The buck stops with him, no?

I've haven't felt less entertained or educated than watching unintelligent intellectuals spout large words, get confused by their own speech ..... Astonishing really.

@jtmkcm

2 жыл бұрын

"get confused by their own speech"

@silbannacusofoxyrhynchus6096

2 жыл бұрын

Their self-righteous moralism is something

wow, the camel is fully in the tent... that didn't take long. HQ needs to take control of this mess. They seem to be quite shy about it however, since Elder Holland got attacked on social media for his tame attempt to address some of the issues at the university. Truly disturbing.

Critical theories, from which CRT is derived, is not a legitimate field of study. It is a political framework whose only motivating principle is control. The entire underpinning of the CRT framework is to call everything racist until it is controlled by CRT theoreticians, who are the only enlightened ones that can truly understand racism. I seem to recall something like this in Russia’s Bolshevik Revolution, In China’s “Cultural” Revolution. It is Marxism 3.0, replacing class as the mechanism of oppression with race, or gender, or sexuality. CRT = Criticize until you control

@patrickluchycky1172

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's a communist doctrine and framework.

@silbannacusofoxyrhynchus6096

2 жыл бұрын

The global aim is political activism to subvert in order to bring a socialist revolution.

@537537

2 жыл бұрын

An effective way to expose their hypocrisy is to ask them what their thoughts are about black voices who don’t support their socialistic causes. In other words: Why do minority voices only matter when they support one ideology but when minority voices don’t support that ideology, they don’t matter?

A lot of these people show themself with a a bunch of books behind them to give us the false idea of wisdom…..but all I hear are the lies of the great and spacious building.

IF you could somehow get these same type of montages of teachers from BYU-Idaho and Hawaii that would be amazing. I work at BYU-Idaho but not in Academia. Havent been a student for awhile but am very intersted in the rumours of CRT that I have been hearing from students.

@miketemple7686

2 жыл бұрын

From what you can tell Rez-Man; how is this teaching being received by the students?

@rez-man1331

2 жыл бұрын

@@miketemple7686 It depends. Most of the students I work with tend to be much more aware of what is going on culturally and calling out the shadows of the adversary when we can see them. I have hope when I interact with these students. They will be stronger than any generation that has been born in this country and their children will be even better. There is a portion that worry me though. had a conversation a few days ago with other students about social media and big tech control. All of them had no problem and even encouraged Government and big tech to be MORE involved in their personal lives when it comes to decision making. No problems with subliminal messaging or anything. And they had no qualms with CRT. Interestingly in my observations the young people that haven’t had to go through much personal testimony searching or any “faith crisis,” or simply some critical thinking have been easily manipulated by the mainstream culture. The more students that ask questions of…”why?” the better. That is in regards to education, cultural, and religious areas. Several young men I know that have always been trained by LDS culture to “turn the other cheek” and “be nice….always” are so afraid of offending people or standing up for their own convictions that when they read something like “how to be an anti-racist” and have a (self-affirming) well spoken professor tell that that it is connected to the gospel…that fully aligns with everything they have been taught already by LDS culture….lucifer is either wiping his brow after having worked extremely hard to get the infiltration into Christian culture he has…..or he is kicking back and laughing at how mind numbingly easy it is has been.

@miketemple7686

2 жыл бұрын

@@rez-man1331 it appears we are experiencing the very same challenges that were presented by Sherem, Nehor, and Korihor. All of them presented a “doctrine” that wanted to separate the/us from Christ. There’s a time to be nice, and a time to be a Stripling Warrior, and Captain Moroni!

I read Kendi's book. I even wrote a review on Barnes and Nobles on this book. This is simply his experience and nothing more. He lacked context in some of the cases he mentioned in the book (i.e. Pres Trump's policies). He did not include context to Obama's policies either. Kendi made money off of this idea. Look at the book and his ideas critically. Do not be caught up in the sensations and emotions produced by reading the book.

@jaredwilkerson3869

2 жыл бұрын

This is precisely why we should teach our kids to think critically, and not lose our minds when someone at a university introduces ideas we don’t agree with. I would be proud to send my kids to BYU. I confronted numerous ideas there that challenged me, and I don’t want to shield my kids from learning to grapple with popular ideas.

@537537

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaredwilkerson3869 there’s a difference between objectively educating about alternate ideas VS propagandizing youth towards an ideological cause.

@rodneyross607

2 жыл бұрын

@@537537 Everyone who writes a successful book makes money.

About 15 years ago I sat with my husband in a Provo restaurant and there was a group sitting near us. The whole time they were talking about what they could do to bring down the church. One told the group he was on the BYU school board. It was an hour long I sat there listening to this greatly concerning discussion. I wanted to tell President Samuelson about it at the time but didn't. I regret not doing so. But wow! To see what has happened since and knowing there was a plan from the start is crazy. I remember them talking about setting up blogs about the Book of Mormon and how to discredit it and other ideas. It was truly an aweful spirit.

@stacihymas4539

2 жыл бұрын

They know what they are doing.

@rodneyross607

2 жыл бұрын

The BYU "school board" is the First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve. If you didn't recognize the person you mention, he was not on the "BYU school board."

@millenialhymns

2 жыл бұрын

No.. there's an education board consisting of other members like professors and stuff. The quorum of the twelve don't have time to govern BYU. 😅

@rodneyross607

2 жыл бұрын

@@millenialhymns Not true. Like Elder Holland says, "BYU doesn't buy a truck that President Nelson doesn't know about."

@millenialhymns

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, President Nelson knows about stuff. And there is an apostle appointed. But the church works through counsels. This is a true story and we have seen the fruits of it. So.. why would you say otherwise. This has happened.

I love BYU and the education that is offered there. I respect the faculty and admin I have met. For faculty who do not align with the aims of BYU they will be reviewed and handled by administration. I have 3 children that graduated in 2020 and 2021 (2 in Humanities, Philosophy & Japanese/TESOL, and 1 in Music Education) and I have another who will graduate this year (Political Science). None of them ever had CRT pushed on them. They did discuss current issues and controversies but were taught critical thinking in an ethical way. They can engage respectfully in a discussion on any current or historical event or theory. I feel the BYU experience was rewarding for them, prepared them for their careers, and to continue their service as disciples of Christ.

@CwicShow

2 жыл бұрын

I am sure that this is the experience for the vast majority of BYU students.

@joybischoff9558

Жыл бұрын

And yet it has been happening for over 2 decades and is getting worse. My professor friend who was assigned to help out-of-line professors, told me that 45% of professors were out of line of the gospel. This was in 1999.

Wow!! This is deeply troubling for our families and the church. Praying for you to be healed. We need your skills in breaking down the mess this world is in.

@CwicShow

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

"George Orwell said that some ideas are so foolish that only an intellectual could believe them, for no ordinary man could be such a fool. The record of 20th century intellectuals was especially appalling in this regard. Scarcely a mass-murdering dictator of the 20th century was without his intellectual supporters, not simply in his own country, but also in foreign democracies, where people were free to say whatever they wished. Lenin, Stalin, Mao, and Hitler all had their admirers, defenders and apologists among the intelligentsia in Western democratic nations, despite the fact that these dictators each ended up killing people of their own country on a scale unprecedented even by despotic regimes that preceded them.” (Intellectuals and Society, Thomas Sowell). Rather correctly attributed to Orwell or not the truth of the statement stands.

@Coreyofthemtn

2 жыл бұрын

So true

We have allowed this to happen. We have opened the door and the adversary has attacked that door and burned it down. Sin is sin. When a person becomes a member of the Church they are supposed to put of the old and become a new creature. New creatures do not bring portions of their old with them. New wine old bottles seems very appropriate here. Now that the door is broken down, expect more of the same.

ALL IS NOT WELL IN ZION.

I was a sociology major at BYUI and my professors never taught this stuff as fact but rather as something to consider. There was always room for multiple points of view, it’s amazing to see how things have changed.

@joybischoff9558

Жыл бұрын

There is no room at a Church-funded University to allow apostate professors to try and destroy testimonies. I had 4 professors openly trying to do that. It is much worse now. Read the mission statement of why the university was founded. Honor is keeping to Church doctrine and not the polluting with the philosophies of men.

The Lord wants disciples NOT activists. He called Simon the Zealot to follow Him, not the other way around. If we reduce Christ to Kendi’s “Liberation Messiah” then we end up rejecting the Savior entirely.

@CwicShow

2 жыл бұрын

Well said!

Is Ryan Gabriel an instructor at BYU, or is he a preacher?

All of this makes my heart sink

@jlf9999

2 жыл бұрын

Angela, it should make you sick at heart. These are despicable human beings laying waste to one of our Church's institutions. Consider it a 21st Century Zions Camp.

@silbannacusofoxyrhynchus6096

2 жыл бұрын

@@jlf9999 They’ve been trained in the “leading “ institutions of the world. They’re not beyond redemption

My son returns from his mission in August and will be going to BYU. Is there a department that he can stay clear of to avoid this ideology? If color-blindness is racist I’m guilty. I’m in a diverse family and I could care less about the melatonin level of my family members and they could care less about mine. I refuse to start “seeing color” and will continue to judge by character, not color.

@CwicShow

2 жыл бұрын

The simple answer is no. But it is much more pervasive in the Humanities.

@thunderandrain09

2 жыл бұрын

Jerry Phillips, we’ll said. And not trying to be critical here, but I think you meant to say you COULDN’T care less.

@jtmkcm

2 жыл бұрын

I would have him steer clear of any and all social science classes!!!

@rconger384

2 жыл бұрын

A correct answer goes beyond the department umbrella to the Institution umbrella: It was suggested to me that solutions might be found in this list: New St. Andrew's, Moscow Idaho College of the Ozarks, Branson Missouri Hillsdale College, Hillsdale Michigan In looking these up I saw that someone needs to go there to grow Institute of Religion programs.

@lukehanson_

2 жыл бұрын

I am in engineering at BYU. They don't have this stuff in those classes. He will likely get it in his generals though. But three woke classes over 4 years is better than woke everything.

Absolutely horrifying to see these teachers at what is supposed to be the LORD's university openly preach such things. "15 ¶ Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them."

D&C 112:23-26 comes to mind... especially verse 25. 23 Verily, verily, I say unto you, darkness covereth the earth, and gross darkness the minds of the people, and all flesh has become corrupt before my face. 24 Behold, vengeance cometh speedily upon the inhabitants of the earth, a day of wrath, a day of burning, a day of desolation, of weeping, of mourning, and of lamentation; and as a whirlwind it shall come upon all the face of the earth, saith the Lord. 25 And upon my house shall it begin, and from my house shall it go forth, saith the Lord; 26 First among those among you, saith the Lord, who have professed to know my name and have not known me, and have blasphemed against me in the midst of my house, saith the Lord.

Aren't we supposed to NOT be activists? This is beyond scary. Why do we need black theology? Should we not seek theology from the scriptures, not from man? It seems like the divide is widening and becoming more clear.

@evelynellsworth6211

2 жыл бұрын

That first question is one I've been asking myself as I've started to become more involved in politics as a young adult. I think activism, when promoting moral causes (like liberty, equal treatment and opportunity, righteousness, etc.) is a good thing that we can (or even should) be involved in as Christians. But at the same time, there are varying scriptural accounts on the topic. Captain Moroni was an activist and military leader, but the people of Alma were told to be submissive. Joshua led the Israelites to conquer the land, but Christ didn't lead the Zealots to overthrow the Romans. I get really frustrated sometimes at the mild-seeming response of the Church to the scary events going on in the world, including blatant and unapologetic tyranny. But I'm trying to trust that there's something I'm not seeing from the Lord's perspective. And even if the Church isn't acting institutionally, I don't think that excuses me from acting when I can to push back against bad policy or culture. What do you think?

@BettyHorn

2 жыл бұрын

@@evelynellsworth6211 there is a difference in atanding up for truth, holding your ground, and marching in the street, demanding change. The latter is born of contention and is a tool of the devil. Yes, be active in your faith, your standards, but don't become an activist to force change. Do you see the difference?

@madvinmryk

2 жыл бұрын

@@BettyHorn Yes, and I really can't imagine calling Captain Moroni an activist.

@BettyHorn

2 жыл бұрын

@@sistermarch660 once again, there is a difference in standing up for one's rights and in activism as it has become known. I think of Seattle and antifa and things like that when I think of activism. I think of a civil and non-violent protest when I think of the truckers. They went out of their way to not become violent. Yet activist organizations USE violence to force their agenda. Being active in your beliefs is different from being an activist striving to force your will upon another.

@evelynellsworth6211

2 жыл бұрын

@@BettyHorn I think we are just using the word activism a little differently; I was using it more in a neutral sense to refer to any action, whether one to defend like Moroni or one to implement bad changes like the activists you're referring to. But if we use activism purely in that second sense, than yes, I definitely agree with you! I like how you described the difference, too.

"But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that brought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction." - 2 Peter 2:1

I watched this videeo all the way throughand here and I still would defend the school, the leaders, the church and the ability for these 5-6 academics to voice their opinions...even if it does hover around CRT. I have 3 kids going there now (2 on missions that are deferred) I am a minority (brown guy) member who graduated from BYU Provo in the 90's with a business degree and I believe that these clips should be kept in context. 1-specific courses (which I never took in my management curericulum path), 2-clips within a lecture which can be taken out of context (which is a tactic done in politics and media), 3-some speakers are visiting lecturers who have very different religous and/or political views. Just because BYU is a mostly-white school doesn't mean that it is full on racist. (They are weird though and sometimes arrogant in the bubble of Provo, don't get me wrong on that. LOL!) And just because "the world" has a very different view, does not mean that we can't have dialogue and lectures that aim to understand what is going on out there. I walked those sidewalks and halls buildings in the 1990's listening to Pubic Enemy, X-clan and KRS 1 on my headphones, but I didn't sense that the predominant color of people on campus was "out to get me" or "holding me back". (I must say that PE, X-Clan and KRS 1 had an even more radical message back then compared to what CRT does even now...but the music is great. I'm just amazed that yt hasn't sensored them because of their race content.) BYU is a unique and special place to go to school. I now teach at a university in the Midwest and I am grateful to send my kids to a place where CRT issues in classrooms are the disputed topic compared to mine (with rape, school shootings, mass-drunkeness and student/police riots). My concerns about BYU students are STILL centered around their ability to keep the commandments and their covenants with God, and repent from their sins when they fall or are prideful. I do appreciate what the video demonstrates but I still defend the school, the church leaders work with minority groups and the Church overall on this topic. (I"m not white or red or black I'm Brown...from the Boogie Down)

@CwicShow

2 жыл бұрын

Brian, thanks for commenting. I would also defend BYU as a whole. I love BYU. My wife, myself and all 4 of my kids have gone there. I have one kid there now as well. In regards to your points: 1-specific courses (which I never took in my management curericulum path) At least half of these clips were for either the entire BYU Kennedy Center or from BYU Religious Education which was also sponsored by many other departments at BYU and was an invitation to all faculty and students. 2-clips within a lecture which can be taken out of context These videos are all public on KZread. The clips are not taken out of context and I am certain that all of the professors and guests would stand behind the comments in the context they are given. Anyone can go and watch the entire videos and decide for themselves. "My concerns about BYU students are STILL centered around their ability to keep the commandments and their covenants with God, and repent from their sins when they fall or are prideful. I do appreciate what the video demonstrates but I still defend the school, the church leaders work with minority groups and the Church overall on this topic." I'm with you!

@hurrahforisrael

2 жыл бұрын

@@CwicShow Thanks Cwic! I appreciate what you are doing and like your topics. I just thought I'd add my comments to help the others that are "shocked" and "horrified" with what they see on the clips. I wanted to re-emphasize that there still is a lot of good as a whole there, even though these kinds of things might be disagreeable. Let God Prevail!!!

Probably a good idea to bring this sort of thing up in tithing settlement and temple recommend interviews. How can our tithing go to support this?

@spenguinfan2967

2 жыл бұрын

I brought it up in my last tithing settlement.

I had know idea that my whiteness was so destructive to mankind. I didn't know being a straight Christian male was responsible for all the problems of the world. I had no idea I am such a racist and saw color in everything. Whoa Nellie, I have 3 grandchildren who are half black and half white and all I see are grandchildren and love them very much.

@livingmombirth4005

2 жыл бұрын

It sounds like your finally starting to understand and we have BYU to thank.

Greg, I'd like to email you a document from my MSW program concerning anti racism at the university level. How can I contact you?

@CwicShow

2 жыл бұрын

Contact me here and I'll give you further info- www.cwicmedia.com/contact

You know what would be so funny is if someone in a class like those featured here spoke up and said “what is being taught here?” and then follow with “the philosophies of men, mingled with scripture” 😏

This is insane. I stopped donating to BYU and will discourage my kids from going there. Wow.

@jaredkmcbride

2 жыл бұрын

If you pay tithing you are still donating to byu

@gowokegobroke2905

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaredkmcbride true. Good point. Well I am convinced that one day the church will have to shut down the education system. The brethren aren’t naive to what’s going on as evident by Elder Hollands recent talk. I do believe the corruption of this school won’t last much longer.

@unknownname8591

2 жыл бұрын

OR, this might be a crazy idea, your kids could go and rectify these crazy people.

I find it interesting that Ryan Gabriel didn't put any effort to explain how CRT isn't Marxism, but merely blasted those who say it is as conspiracy theorists. To mock and dismiss anyone uttering the idea as a radical or a fool. It is shocking to see this kind of tactic being used on an almost daily basis in all of our media today. If you've read The Communist Manifesto it is plain to see the points made there and points made in CRT are one in the same. Thank you for sharing.

@Coreyofthemtn

2 жыл бұрын

That's their MO. Dismiss and advance the cause. They'll never actually engage. Take for example the video with Ben Shapiro and Malcom Nance. They NEVER actually back up their claims. They only ever dismiss and advance.

@kerrythompson9506

2 жыл бұрын

@@Coreyofthemtn If you believe what the marxists say, that human interactions are for the purpose of oppressing others, then you have to believe that they themselves use language for that purpose. So what they say is not important from a truth perspective, because it is said to evoke a reaction rather than to communicate.

@9forMortalMen

2 жыл бұрын

What would you say that CRT is then?

Thank you for sharing this. This... is not good.

These professors will find that their hubris will be their downfall. The things they are saying make me sick to my stomach.

I can't even watch the whole thing- it makes me sick to my stomach. Nothing like people who worship their own intellects.

A big win for BYU! Thank you for taking President Nelson's charge seriously to root out racism from our society. To the people in the comments condemning these teachers who are teaching that racism is wrong.... WTF??? Take a look at yourself and ask how you could possibly be uncomfortable with these lessons.

@amyburbidge2740

2 жыл бұрын

Black lives matter and CRT are not rooting out racism. They are promoting it. They are antichristian movements that the church and it's universities should have nothing to do with. We should root out racism by calling out these evil doctrines!

@randallbateman3418

2 жыл бұрын

You have to love when the prof. says the claim it is anti-capitalist is a conspiracy theory. Hard to believe he has ever read Delgado or Kendi - which claim capitalism is intertwined with racism and must be eliminated.

@unknownname8591

2 жыл бұрын

Problem is they use woke language, maybe they don't know what they are really saying..? Because if they know what they're saying then they are not helping forwarding the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I think most of them (if not all) are ignorant about what they are really pushing, a clear example is when one of them mentions the term "anti-racism" in a positive light, when in reality "anti-racism" is pushed as good racism, sometimes heroic racism.

@rachael780

Жыл бұрын

CRT in and of itself is racist. It pushes liberation theology which is antithetical to the gospel.

I am shocked and disturbed at the extent of this heresy, not just an occasional dissent in the name of academic freedom. Where is the army of professors who should be articulating a rebuttal?

This is very divisive and I can't believe this is being taught at BYU. CRT is completely divisive and an erroneous philosophy and these poor students are falling for it because they don't want to label as racist. Also BYU doesn't want to be labelled as racist also since it is a PWI (Predominantly White Institution). These liberal professors are doing more harm than good. That's why I'm a Black Conservative and appreciate voices such as Larry Elder, Candace Owens, Dr. Ben Carson as well as MLK because he wouldn't tolerate this!!!

@CwicShow

2 жыл бұрын

Simon, would you be willing to contact me here - www.cwicmedia.com/contact I have a couple of questions for you. - Greg

@truthshinesforth

2 жыл бұрын

"The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution." SDS movement, David Horowitz

Brigham Young said at the inauguration of Brigham Young Academy that the school was to combat the philosophies of the world. Not so much now.

What are they doing at BYU!? Has church leadership seen this??? BYU IS FINISHED. There is no safe place for us to go to school. We're done. Welcome the BYU staff to the Great and Spacious Building.

Stupidity is a social construct. Ignorance is a choice.

I'm currently in my last semester at BYU, and I can say with absolute relief that I have not heard any of this horrifying rhetoric in my classes in the linguistics department! I also avoided it in my general ed classes, thankfully. But I was vaguely aware that these things were going on in other departments, and I'm sickened to actually see all these clips.

BYU is a university. If students are not taught to think for themselves by being exposed to differing ideas then the point of an education is being missed. Academia is not meant to be an echo chamber.

@CwicShow

2 жыл бұрын

M one wants an echo chamber. I am not talking about critical thinking. I am talking about indoctrination

I've been thinking about this situation.... Which both saddens me and makes me a little nauseated. First of all, I firmly believe that if Jesus Christ wanted the world to be involved with CRT, He would have brought it forth through His prophets. It amazes me that these teachers of our children, are seeking to influence them away from the true gospel. They want these kids to share their testimony. I suppose a testimony can come from anything one believes in. But when it comes to the church, and church schools, one should be seeking to build their and others testimony on truth. To seek the truth about Christ. Secondly, I believe that the way CRT was brought about, and is being taught, is Satan's counterfeit to the gospel. There may be a truth or two in the book this comes from, but it's purpose is to gradually lead people away from the love of God. Third, speaking of that, I don't know why people don't see that just living the first two commandments would bring us to treating EVERYONE as God's children. No one would be labeled, belittled, or segregated. Seems pretty simple to me. All their "wordiness" of these instructors, takes away from the simpleness. I just had to put this out there. Maybe someone else has already said this. If so, thank you. Thank you all for standing up for Christ.

@CwicShow

2 жыл бұрын

Well said!

@Coreyofthemtn

2 жыл бұрын

You're exactly right. They are intentionally verbose and imprecise. It's a tactic so that they can claim the high ground when called out "oh no we just mean people should not be racist" and use the politically loaded definition when they are able to insert it into procedure and policy.

@rodneyross607

2 жыл бұрын

@@Coreyofthemtn "Root out racism wherever we find it." it sounds like the prophet has spoken.

@tubamomof4

2 жыл бұрын

I 100% agree with following the 1st and 2nd commandment. I don’t see anything in this video that goes against that. In fact I believe it supports it. They are just taking it to a deeper level, which IS the purpose of academia. If we just wanted to keep it at a basic level, there would be no need to go to a university to study anything further, right? I don’t understand why standing up for the marginalized, the least of these, is not standing up for Christ, as that was his mission on earth?

@CwicShow

2 жыл бұрын

@@rodneyross607 that's like saying communism was the answer to poverty. President Nelson has never condoned CRT.

It is frustrating being called a racist by people who have tied this important issue to an anti-American agenda. They have no right to define for me what racism is. When I was 7, a family friend spoke derogatorily of colored people. I didn't even know racism excited because my parents befriended blacks with love and respect. I grabbed a sheet of paper and held it against this woman's arm and told her she wasn't white, that she was a tan color. She sputtered in horror but finally laughed and said, "From the mouths of babes". I've been fighting racism ever since only to learn from "new-speak" that I'm now racist. 🙄

One common thread among people who think like these guys is they don't know where the boundaries are. It won't be long before what we know are truly socialist/communist views, begin to rule their lives and then their most hidden secrets become known. Quite often they commit suicide, offend against someone, end up in jail or worse. My 25 years experience dealing with folks on the fringe as a case manager leads me to think the latter. They can't last in the Church. True Christian religion is anathema to them regardless of what disingenuous ramblings come from their mouths.

Just wow!

I’ll be discouraging my daughter from going there. And I don’t like the feeling I have walking around that campus. Something is “Off.”

BYU, Desert Book, KSL, and Deseret News are in desperate need of house-cleaning.

@RichardChappell1

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, the Church's PR department (Church News) is heavily influenced by them as well.

@sadiegirl1243

2 жыл бұрын

@@RichardChappell1 Really? Why is that?

@livingmombirth4005

2 жыл бұрын

Amen Brother!

@RichardChappell1

2 жыл бұрын

@@sadiegirl1243 Just read the work they put out. There are at least periodically articles that are not quite in line with what the brethren teach or have been taught, or that don't accurately represent a statement. There tends to be a progressive slant to some.

@rodneyross607

2 жыл бұрын

@@RichardChappell1 I have personally listened to the leader of the Church Public Relations Department. Nothing goes out without the complete approval of the First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve. It is we, not them, who need to do some changing.

My question is, who are these professors following? More importantly, who do they think they are following?

@silbannacusofoxyrhynchus6096

2 жыл бұрын

They’re trained in the leading institutions of the world

This is teaching hate at BYU!

Good grief! Is this being taught after Elder Holland's message?

I actually thought that first guy was demonstrating what was being taught, and as an example of how far BYU was falling. Nope, he was actually teaching kids to share their testimonies about Ibram X Kendi's teachings...

Always ask yourself this one question honestly - "Are you feeling the Spirit?" Is it pleasing to the carnal mind or is it pleasing to God? See Alma 30:53

Great job professors!! Maybe the next generation members with have fewer racists, homophobes, and misogynists?! 🙏🏼

@CwicShow

2 жыл бұрын

I feel sorry for those who see all of life through this lens.

@richardtong3099

2 жыл бұрын

These professors are raising a generation of accusers, revelation 12:10 comes to mind. Those of us in the UK who voted for Brexit were accused of being racist, we were even compared to Nazis. We simply wanted to preserve freedom and accountability of government. These accommodations have to stop, it is not Christian, it is antichrist.

@jbroblox6976

2 жыл бұрын

@@richardtong3099 Wrong, and look at the one who is accusing now? Hypocrisy much?

@richardtong3099

2 жыл бұрын

@@jbroblox6976 I don't mind so much being called a hypocrite if that's what you believe, much more acceptable than being called racist or a nazi! Please explain how you think I'm wrong? Are you LDS? If so how do you feel the BLM stance on the founding of the US compares with what is written in scripture? D&C 98:6 Therefore, I, the Lord, justify you, and your brethren of my church, in befriending that law which is the constitutional law of the land; 7 And as pertaining to law of man, whatsoever is more or less than this, cometh of evil D&C101: 80 And for this purpose have I established the Constitution of this land, by the hands of wise men whom I raised up

This comments section does not pass the vibe check

4:28 "...and makes Him Political Messiah liberating us from the oppressors." Skinner/Kendi doctrine is exactly what the Zealots in the New Testament promoted about political liberation from their Roman Oppressors. But Jesus brought us The Gospel. So obvious to me that Kendi page 15 is NOT the teaching of Christ our personal Savior who we EACH make a covenant relationship with. Kendi is quite opposite! And speaking of opposites, Gutfield summed it up: "Wokeism is not the opposite of any political party, it's the opposite of forgiveness. " I don't want these people teaching my grandchildren. Unconscionable that these people are paid with my tithes!

Parents and students considering your educational options, consider Mount Liberty College in Murray. IMHO, this BYU corruption is too deep, and best case scenario sees reforms succeeding only a decade down the line.

@marileeblonquist9342

2 жыл бұрын

I give a second witness to Mount Liberty College in Murray! Such a contrast to this disgusting and concerning BYU trash.

@rodneyross607

2 жыл бұрын

@@marileeblonquist9342 Don't you think if this was seen as corruption and trash by the leaders of our Church that they'd have put a stop to it. It is our ideas that are corrupted. We need to listen to these viewpoints. We don't need to agree with them, but just listen.

Is it possible that Pharisees of our day have degrees instead of political clout, and haughty language instead of expensive headdresses and clothing.... The real danger here is that the Pharisees preached a Messiah that would demand justice and freedom from their political oppression. So much so that when the Messiah came, he was not even recognized, and his apostles were rejected.... If Gen Z is looking for a Jesus that promises freedom from racial oppression instead of freedom from their own sins, they risk missing Him when he is present, they risk rejecting his disciples. Of course Jesus wants racial equity, that is so apparent it does not even really need to be mentioned, but He does not promise it in this life, He promises us freedom from THE oppressor... this thought has already been taught on your channel but it hit me real hard today. Let's pray these kids have parents and leaders that are more influential than these teachers.

Tell me what the specific current exploitation is and I am the first to put it down. I stand beside anyone who can identify such "acts" of racism and will be the first to put it down.

I was shocked when I saw Kendis' books in Desert Book and BYU bookstore. I'm so confused as to why this is happening. I envision the day when BYU is sold to the state of Utah. LGBTQ students will cheer as they pull the Brigham Young statue down. It's so sad.

Is this also present at BYU-I and BYU-H??

@CwicShow

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, but to a lesser degreee.

I’m so disturbed by these statements. How many of these individuals are educators at BYU? As a Marriage and Family Therapist, it’s mind rape! The subtleties of mockery and ridiculous intellectual diatribe makes me want to laugh and cry at the same time!!

I know some great people who have retired from BYU. I wonder who hired this bunch. The evidence of really poor thinking is too obvious. I have a PhD in economics but spent my career working in businesses as a process improvement engineer. At one time I was working with a top executive who when discovering that I had a PhD, starting laughing really hard then said I don’t believe you. I have an uncle with a PhD and teaches at … university. If I put him in a cardboard box, he wouldn’t be able to find his way out. Now I have a better understanding of his uncle. 😜

Wow, just, wow...

So frightening. They need to just shut down this school and start over.

It makes me sick, SICK, to see charlatans wresting the words of the prophets in this way.

So does the First Presidency and the Council of the 12 feel this is a good direction for BYU to be moving?

@jlf9999

2 жыл бұрын

Do those 15 men at the top agree? Maybe, in as much as Our Savior thinks a few bumps and bruises don't matter in the long run. I suppose they will or are taking this to The Lord as seems fit. It's His call. Maybe His response will be "work it out among yourselves..." Then what?

@guardianangel9517

2 жыл бұрын

Of COURSE NOT!

@SaxSpy

2 жыл бұрын

i think nelson is woke and the others arent

@deborahkittredge6667

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your responses. I am in prayer about the teaching going on at BYU. A lot of future church leaders come from there.

What I find interesting is all of these faculty had to be approved by the first presidency before being hired. A member of the seventy also has to interview them and approve them to be hired.

@Coreyofthemtn

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, but I'm not sure what you're inferring from that. Is it that somehow they ought to have received revelation or inspiration that they have ill-conceived ideas and therefore shouldn't be hired? Or are you imagining that these individuals would have dove right in during an interview process and declared themselves to be intolerant, cynical woke activists? I don't mean to come off as harsh. I just mean to say that of course people will put their best foot forward, and will play to their audience. Also of note is that many of these people are genuine, and convinced that what they are talking about is truthfulness and fits lockstep with the Gospel.