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@LunaWitcherArt

22 күн бұрын

I am scared to watch the crow video because I don't want to be spoiled for the movie

I was happy for Bridgerton to be racially diverse and set in the 1800s with no explanation because I thought of it as a fantasy. The minute they brought race relations it became something else entirely. When it became evident that the writers had no range to discuss these issues it took me out.

@LadyJenevia

23 күн бұрын

Reading your “had no range” line made my brain transport to Tiffany Pollard saying her “unqualified” / “nothing of the sort” rant from Big Brother 😭😂😭😂😭😂

@maireflannigan5087

22 күн бұрын

I am done with Bridgerton anyway. I will never watch another second because the Michael mess....it is just a step too far.

@thulaganyomodise

22 күн бұрын

@@LadyJenevia omg😭😭 why is that the perfect comparison

@moustik31

22 күн бұрын

I 2nd this! I was blissfully and happily suspending my disbelief until the show brought it up so clumsily! I hope future showrunners learn from that mistake!

@paracletelux

22 күн бұрын

@@LadyJenevia I thought of the Little Britain skit where Matt Lucas plays an artfully reclined Shirley Bassey, who dismisses other singers with “She doesn’t have the range! I’m sorry darling, but she doesn’t have the range!” Which apparently Bassey really did say about Tina Turner when Goldeneye came out lol. But in this case it’s true, Bridgerton doesn’t have the range. “We were two separate societies until a king fell in love with one of us” is sure a weird way to suggest systemic racism underpinned by hundreds of years of the transatlantic slave trade was solved overnight by the love of a single rich (mentally ill) man. 😬

🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯 Making Brigerton like Brandi's Cinderella would have been absolutely perfect.

@LadyJenevia

23 күн бұрын

Truly, Whitney made the blueprint in the 1990’s and too many industry people are ignoring it! 😎

@chanelsimone6072

16 күн бұрын

I truly think there needs to be more people of color directing, and being the show runners and writers.

@lilianaledesma7254

9 күн бұрын

I love Brandy's and Paolo's Cinderella. I hate how Disney change the whole storyline of this Cinderella movie to fit the Descendents agenda.

@IjeomaThePlantMama

7 күн бұрын

​@@lilianaledesma7254I'm almost afraid to ask what changes they made. I'm already pissed off at the idea of them messing with that perfection.

@lilianaledesma7254

6 күн бұрын

@@IjeomaThePlantMama I know I was. They changed the whole story of how Cindrella and Charming meet. Cindrella's childhood home life is changed too. It's like they were thinking if we get Brandy and Paolo back it will draw that demographic of audience into this Disney franchise. It doesn't matter if we disregard the original story we still got the viewership numbers higher. I mean it worked. I'm a grown woman. The only reason I looked into that new movie is because I was excited to see the two reprise their roles ( even though they didn't really because now they have whole new storyline that don't aline with the old one).

Brandy and Paolo are the OG couple I shipped as a child 😊 love this

@LadyJenevia

23 күн бұрын

AND THEY'RE STILL ONE OF THE BEST LOOKING (fictional) COUPLES AROUND 🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻

@brynbailey7132

23 күн бұрын

@@LadyJenevia 💯

@ReeniEspino

22 күн бұрын

I think of H.E.R.'s Belle as their spiritual child

As a black woman, I just can't bring myself to watch bridgerton fully because I know that I am going to nitpick it because of the diversity problem. I watched season 1 and after THAT scene with Simon and Daphne I was done because that scene was too much on the surface. But when I thought about it some more....it kinda exemplifies the whole race dilemma and I started to unpack all the ways that Bridgeton fails it bipoc cast because there isn't enough bipoc people behind the camera. For examples: - THAT SCENE with Simon and Daphne (imo) kinda subconsciously veers too closely into the feitshzation of black bodies in the 1800s for the pleasure of white people and the lack of agency to say 'no' for fear of punishment. - how all of the bridgeton women besides Eloise has been romantically linked to black men (it kinda giving Kardashians and we loved mixed children lol.) - most of the women of color on bridgeton (including lady danbury, marina, Edwina, the dressmaker, Charlotte etc) always has a bittersweet ending to their stories. They can't never seem to get a true happy ending. Queen Charlotte is the most powerful woman on the show, but her husband has gotten sick and can't remember her most of the time. And I suppose to say 'Yass queen. wear that wig.' No it's truly sad that on a romance story that we have to watch a powerful woman see her husband become mad and the only time we see her happy is like 50 years pior and the fact that lady danbury doesn't have a lover most of her life like Lady Tilly with Benedict is mind blowing. - the fact that most of the dark-skinned black men meet horrible fates (John, Simon's father, lord Danbury) - the fact that we didn't have Kate's wedding to Anthony WHEN she is marrying the head of the main family on the show. The show is called Bridgeton and Kate is becoming the Lady of the entire family. But we get the wedding of the two white heroines. - the desire of keeping Will and Alice on the show because they are the only black ppl on the principal cast but not giving enough of a storyline to justify their inclusion.

@moustik31

22 күн бұрын

Im Black and I think, that's why I enjoyed season 2 better. It's hard to watch the Black characters in Bridgerton and not notice the blatant colorist/anti-Black tropes: Simon's dad in the flashbacks was an "interesting" choice, to say the least. I didnt finish the season after that and I didnt bother watching Queen Charlotte either. 😕

@Willow-cw9te

22 күн бұрын

@@moustik31 Season one really rubbed me the wrong way upon 1st watching, Which is why season 2 is what redeemed the show for me and made me a fan. you should definitely watch Queen Charlotte though, because it also shows the suffering that the King endured because he loved Charlotte (and that suffering had nothing to do with racism)

@moustik31

22 күн бұрын

@@Willow-cw9te You are missing the point Willow: I want to see a Black woman have a happy ending similar to Daphné and Penelope's. I wont settle for less, so no, I wont be watching Queen Charlotte.

@Jiinx123

21 күн бұрын

You should add "A lack of diverse couples" to this list. You mean to tell me that for all Bridgerton's bragging about being diverse and using an interracial royal relationship as a lazy excuse for desegregation, there aren't more diverse couples in the show? Why is every romantic lead couple between a POC and a white person? Don't POCs date and marry each other too? The Black relationships we get in the entire show (Lady Danbury's marriage, Simon's parents) are also usually terrible. But between Penelope and Colin's dynamic dumpster fire, and Cressida's parents' bad marriage, I guess it "balances out". I agree with all your points 100%, and I haven't even watched the show. I've only seen clips of the shows, press tours, and watched video essays about Bridgerton. But I have no interest in watching it, and I'm glad cause I'd be nitpicking too.

@Dee_Dee216

19 күн бұрын

@@Jiinx123 To be fair, the show is about the Bridgetons and since they are a white family, all marriages would have to be with a white person. But I agree with you on everything else.

Brandy’s Cinderella still means so much to me ❤

@LadyJenevia

22 күн бұрын

SHE'S AN ICON, SHE'S A LEGEND, AND SHE IS THE MOMENT

As a black woman I have always been attracted to attractive men regardless of “race” and learned more and more from society as I grew older that I was not “allowed” to think white, Asian or Hispanic men are attractive. Cinderella with Brandy as the lead justified my feelings as a child. I feel a bit ashamed that societally we still have to tell black women that they can date any men they want that also want them. It is also so nice to see a non black woman cheering for positive and equal black representation without jealousy, bitterness or bigotry…❤

@prettynpetty8342

8 күн бұрын

I think society does telll black women you’re allowed to think non black men are attractive. I think every woman is suppose to praise white men in particular because they have control over their own image and they paint themselves as the most manly and desirable. What is not taught, what’s taboo even, is finding black women attractive. Non black men, and even some black men, are taught to not allow themselves to find black women attractive. Like it’s wrong and I think that’s what leads to fetishization.

When the advertisements for Bridgerton first aired, I thought it was inspired by this version of Cinderella. I wonder if color blind casting will ever truly take off in Hollywood.

@LadyJenevia

23 күн бұрын

The director of Warcraft, Duncan Jones, is David Bowie's son and he said to me on Twitter that he had to battle the higher-ups/studio/whomever to be able to cast Travis Fimmel (white Australian) and Ruth Negga (Ethiopian Irish) as brother and sister because 'middle America won't understand that' (or something like that) and Duncan had to outright remind them that he himself is a white man with a Black sister (David Bowie's wife for many decades until he died was Somalian supermodel Iman). Even then they were still making an issue out of it. Warcraft came out in 2016!!! 🙃

I legit thought as a kid that Black + White = Asian, but I didn't question it. I adored that the step sisters were different races from each other, and having a black step sister made it clear that the step mother wasn't just racist against Cinderella. Having grown up with all 3 televised versions of Rogers and Hammerstein's versions of the story, this is the one I enjoy revisiting most. EDIT: We 100% need a JJ Field cameo. Between Northanger Abbey and Austenland, that man has my regency heart in the palm of his hands.

That version of Cinderella meant everything to me as a kid. Thank you so much for speaking about its impact!

@LadyJenevia

22 күн бұрын

Not nearly enough people talk consistently about the level of impact this film had on the culture at large. A whole generation of children who grew up watching it see that world as normal which is probably at least part of the reason why we're now inclined to nitpick if you underdeliver compared to the standard Whitney (and DMC) set with their vision! 🥰❤️‍🔥

Brandi is the prettiest Cinderella and Barbie ever. Also Keke Palmer on Broadway was an excellent casting....and I love Lily James but the throne is still occupied in my heart.

Thank you for bringing up the vast disparity of press for Kanthony. Everytime I bring this up I get attacked by fans that I’m jealous and I’m not. I am Tamil South Asian and I get emotional seeing Simone Ashley as a lead in the season. She and Johnny didn’t get the same measure of press or photo shoot for Season 2 or Season 3 which had massive promotion. And then for their characters ,Kanthony, have had NO milestones on screen and have ultimately been written off the show. Additionally (if I’m not mistaken) in Season 2 fans were told that they didn’t shoot or plan a wedding for Kanthony because it’s not possible to film two weddings in one season but then they turn around and do that exactly in Season 3! It’s honestly soured my outlook of Shondaland and Bridgerton because why aren’t they good enough to get any of that but the white leads are? It seems like POC’s get all the coverage for suffering but when it’s time for celebration there’s all of a sudden no room.

@katrinarichards7891

22 күн бұрын

So Glad u exposed these horrible choice's by the writers and show runner even. In their season they left off the marriage.honeymoon now season 3 we hear about a baby and never see it shame on them I agree 💯 thank u we Simone and Jonathan Kanthony deserve better!!!!!!!

@candymax2065

21 күн бұрын

I 100% forgot they said that bullshit about not having the budget for 2 weddings in season 2. But they went ahead and did it in season 3. Actually, even in season 2 we saw one of Peneloe's sisters wedding if i am not mistaken. They were a cute couple, but we all came to season 2 for the Kanthony wedding and love story.

@thulaganyomodise

7 күн бұрын

@@soundmind174 You hit the mark. I don’t know how people can chalk these opinions and observations to jealousy when people are just pointing things out. I’m not South Asian so I cannot relate to anyone who is but it still rubbed the wrong way when I realised that there wasn’t going to be a wedding. The entire promotional campaign for S2 prided itself on providing representation for South Indian people but when it was time to deliver on that there were crickets. It makes no sense that the show runners and writers for this show would spend time on a fake wedding with Anthony and Edwina when they knew that it was not gonna go anywhere. On top of that we don’t really know much about Kate compared to Anthony and she’s marrying into the family the show is about😭 It makes no sense that we don’t see any of their milestones onscreen like the other 2 couples. No wedding/wedding night, no honeymoon or the baby, despite that being their whole storyline for S3. The promotion on its own was so bad. It looks like they didn’t believe that a South Asian woman would be able to carry her own season. All the promo was about that stupid ‘love triangle’ and they didn’t even try to make it about our main couple or give memorable promotion that highlighted the main couple.

When I tell you I rewatch this version of Cinderella a couple times a year because of how timeless it truly is. I think Mr Malcolm's List did a good job of casting diversely too. I wished they did the same with Bridgerton.

@LadyJenevia

23 күн бұрын

I never made a video dedicated to Mr Malcolm’s List but I’m pretty sure it did get a mention in my 2022 video ranking my favourite films of the year. I don’t remember where I put it but I think it was somewhere in my top 15 of that year. It was good!!

@Secret413

23 күн бұрын

@@LadyJenevia Not enough people talk about this movie. It's also an adaption of a book and is actually better than book because of how it fleshed out the characters. So good.

@Ellington3

22 күн бұрын

Mr. Malcom’s list was a lovely film!

@niyaakbar1098

22 күн бұрын

It’s my comfort movie!!

Lets be real, Bridgerton season 3 was the least diverse season. Diversity isnt just a check box, its giving diverse actors meaty storylines and importance. All the characters of importance were white and PoC only revolved ariund their white counterparts

@LadyJenevia

22 күн бұрын

I felt strongly that the show missed an opportunity to do better for the Mondriches and Madame DLC. I really thought that there would be more exploration of the Mondriches so that we as the audience would get to know them (and love them even more as a result!) and Benedict would learn something meaningful from them that would better set him up to be the (hopefully) leading man of season 4. And for Madame DLC, I thought we could learn more about her love for fashion and creating, the dilemma of having to make things she might not necessarily love but it’s what the paying customer wants so she has to do that, and then Penelope could also have her exploration running alongside that as it applies to Operation Lady Whistledown. Instead we got SCRAPS for both of those concepts. 🙃

@wonder-wall1914

22 күн бұрын

@LadyJenevia I'm not going to lie, I enjoyed the featheringtons in season 1, but I need them to go so we can focus on other characters in season 4. I also need the Lady Whisteldown plot to be over and done with. Because you're right, we need to explore more of these side characters we have seen for years but barely know anything about. And I'd also love for Lady Danbury to finally have a plot that doesn't revolve around white people next season. Amd don't get me started on how Bridgerton clearly only sees value in Kate when Anthony is around. Simone was free to film so many scenes to build her character as viscountess but NOPE! No Anthony means no Kate, which is pretty insulting

@thulaganyomodise

7 күн бұрын

@@wonder-wall1914 Omg yes. I need Lady Danbury to have a meaty plot in the next season. The one with her brother this season was so forgettable and didn’t feel like it was important. I just want one that would be about her specifically and not about her playing the magical black person that helps these white rich kids find true love. I feel like it’s such a waste of a very iconic character and makes her feel like she has nothing important keeping her rin the show. Also with Kanthony, these writer need to give Kate a proper story that doesn’t just revolve around her husband. She feels like a love interest when she is the head of the family that the show is about. We can get more of her backstory, bonding with other people in society like Alice. I just want her to be more than just Anthony’s wife.

The press surrounding Season 2 was foul. So many people tried defending it, using the COVID excuse, but Nicola, Claudia, Charithra and Luke N got a photoshoot, while Jonny and Simone did not. And Phoebe and RJP got a photoshoot during COVID too so that’s a sh*t excuse.

@LadyJenevia

22 күн бұрын

Right, and my issue is not that the other couples shouldn't have had what they got. It's that Jonny and Simone should have had MORE to match the other couples, and more of that should have showcased them TOGETHER AS THE MAIN COUPLE OF THAT SEASON. 😎

@mrskvall1

22 күн бұрын

@@LadyJenevia Idk the validity of it, but I heard rumors that several journos asked for access to just J&S for interviews and were denied. I 100% believe it.

@LadyJenevia

22 күн бұрын

@@mrskvall1 I can't speak from my own experience because all I asked for in the lead-up to season 2 was press screeners for reviewing purposes and I got them. I didn't even THINK to ask for interviews at that time because I just assumed I wouldn't have enough status to get in for a show as large as Bridgerton. I was fine with just getting the screeners. I didn't even become a FAN of Bridgerton until after I watched those season 2 screeners because I didn't watch season 1 until immediately before my first watch of season 2. 😂

The way I screamed "Yassss!!!" when you featured "Romeo Must Die." I was just listening to the soundtrack last week.

@LadyJenevia

23 күн бұрын

I LOVE THAT MOVIE!! Jet Li was asked about it during the live action Mulan press tour and the interview blew up because that’s how iconic Romeo Must Die is. 😍😍😍

@KerraBolton

23 күн бұрын

And the way you pronounced Aaliyah correctly. Girl. Chile. Please. You just got a new subscriber. 🎊 🎉

@LadyJenevia

23 күн бұрын

Sometimes I get stressed out not knowing how to say someone’s name but people really have no excuse for Aaliyah because there’s multiple clips of her explaining it. 😭😂

@KerraBolton

22 күн бұрын

You were like, “Before you come for me, here are the receipts and the clip.” Thank you for pointing out the importance of music in Romeo Must Die. You can see the Asian influence in hip hop music and culture during that time. Wu-Tang Clan anyone?

@LadyJenevia

22 күн бұрын

@@KerraBolton I actually did the press junket for one of the seasons of the Wu-Tang series on Hulu. "Method Man" (specifically referring to the song here) is a BOP! 🥰✨

im now noticing that for my entire life ive been comparing every fantasy romance to Whitneys Cinderella and honestly i will continue to

I would love to see Lady Danbury rebuild her relationship with her kids and have her own adventures.

I think that it was imperative for one of her spoiled stepsisters, Minerva in particular being black like Brandi, to show her blackness wasn't the motivation for her oppression and exploitation by her stepmother, played by Bernadette Peters who is white. In addition to showing Black women of high status, like Queen Whoopi and Godmother Whitney. Bc it also would have been questionable if Minerva who is part of the comedic slapstick and physical humor duo, was the only other core character bc it could feel like black cast members and characters were subject to abuse or the butt of the jokes.

@LadyJenevia

22 күн бұрын

100%! And in general I think that if any of them had been THE ONLY Black lead, there would be a way to interpret that material/casting negatively as something potentially stereotypical. But since you’ve got all of them in there, you can better understand that no one is saying that that character represents the entirety of their ethnic or cultural identity/experience.

I think that I may be able to offer some more context to the tensions between the Black and Asian communities that during the LA riots. 13 days after the video was released of the police attacking Rodney King another travesty of justice occurred in LA, specifically between the Asian American and African American communities, where a Korean woman who ran a convenience store fatality shot a 15 year old girl named Latasha Harlins for supposedly shoplifting. The Korean woman, Soon Ja Du, was sentenced to 10 years in prison for voluntary manslaughter but the sentence was suspended to community service and a measly $500 fine. The injustice of this case added to the emotions that boiled over during the riot and is said to have contributed to so many Korean owned businesses being burned during the riots. A short documentary about Latasha Harlins was made into an Oscar nominated film in 2019 which is how I first learned about this part of history.

the timing for this is soo perfect bc even a new star wars show (the acolyte ) has some blasian solidarity! i wish so badly that briderton would've done colorblind casting for every character

@LunaWitcherArt

22 күн бұрын

The way I would have died for an Asian Eloise and and Latina Featheringtons you don't GET IT

@persephone342

20 күн бұрын

We have two Asian male leads and a female black lead. I’m loving it!

@strawberrylime33

18 күн бұрын

Shondaland had a truly colorblind TV show called Still Star Crossed, and it got canceled before the end of the first season. Maybe the writers thought people wouldn't like it.

romeo must dle and brandys cinderella were my favs growing up and im excited for benedict and sophie with their rendition next!

@LadyJenevia

22 күн бұрын

THOSE TWO COUPLES WERE ICONIC THEN AND ARE STILL ICONIC NOW! 🥰❤️‍🔥

About Brandy’s and Paolo’s appearance in Descendants spin-off Rise of Red: They’re in a couple scenes together. The rest of the movie, they’re in separate scenes. I recommend watching the press tour videos instead.

@LadyJenevia

20 күн бұрын

I wasn't ever really planning on watch the film; I assumed that if there were any good clips of them, they'd pop up on my KZread feed. 🤭

@sakunaruful

20 күн бұрын

@@LadyJenevia Okay.

I've been thinking about this topic a lot lately. So many of Bridgerton's problems could've been solved if they had just did colorblind casting. I don't need for my fluffy historical romance to attempt to solve racism or explain why there is no racism. I just want the main couple to have a happy ending and some fun banter between the Bridgertons. If the Bridgertons/Featheringtons had been casted without race in mind, then we wouldn't be at the point where we are now where the love interest has to be a certain race in order to check a box.

Thank you for saying it's not fun to watch bridgerton season 3. I've been meaning to go back and watch it but just don't wanna😭

@LadyJenevia

23 күн бұрын

We were watching season 3 on my Patreon watch parties and were supposed to do part 2 when I got back from my trip but I was so over the overblown melodrama that I just scrapped that and we got back to rewatching Derry Girls 😂🇮🇪

You are so right about how vibes are important for romance stories, and how a lot can be forgiven if the vibes are right. I feel like this is the case for a lot of genres; horror, romance, and comedy movies don't need to be perfect to be memorable, but they definitely need to have the right vibes. Also thank you for pronouncing Aaliyah's name correctly, it's so annoying when celebs tell people how to pronounce their names and everyone just runs with a different pronunciation.

@LadyJenevia

22 күн бұрын

When Henry starts making heart-eyes at Catherine within three seconds of meeting her in Northanger Abbey 2007, THAT'S IT, I'M INVESTED. Are they wealthy parasites who do nothing of substance to try to overthrow the colonial empire in which they reside? Probably, but I'm not thinking about it while I'm watching because THE VIBES ARE VIBING! 😆

I have never had anything I have said featured in a video before, and I am so honored to have my first time be a video of yours. I don't always comment, but I have loved your content for years. It is true that Jonathan and Simone paid for the season 2 wrap party. They called it boozy bowling. There are some pics and there was an article about it, but I can't for the life of me find it. I wonder if it was srubeed, but, it is true. I really enjoyed this video. I wish more creatives would talk about this subject,not only for Bridgerton, but all shows that claim diversity in appearance, but the actual stories and plots for the show fall short. I love the concept of Bridgerton, but if season 4 doesn't do better, I don't see myself continuing to watch.

@gems3604

22 күн бұрын

Bravo.

@LadyJenevia

22 күн бұрын

Obviously Black viewers are not a monolith and there will be plenty of variety in the opinions about any number of Black characters in different works but you were making valid points so it made all the sense in the world for me to share them. I don’t really like to overly nitpick Lady Danbury’s on my main channel (though I DID share more opinions in my Queen Charlotte review for Patreon only 😆). I just felt as though it wouldn’t be productive for me to overly nitpick LD’s material for this video when I can just as easily redirect the train of thought to “You do realise if there was a strategy from the beginning of being suuuuuuper multiracial like Whitney’s Cinderella, this would probably be a much less heated discussion” 😂🤷🏻‍♀️

@gems3604

22 күн бұрын

@@LadyJenevia What is exciting about your statement that Black viewers are not a monolith is that Black viewership/audience now includes Black people from all over the world from France and Germany, to the US and Canada to the Caribbean and to Africa and the Near East and beyond. Nigeria and South Africa have a budding film industry and increasingly the importance of themes, character development and the semiotics of the camera image is enlarging the conversation. Because of the racism and colorism, featurism and texturism in America, Black viewers may not be in agreement with certain conclusions, but we do, I believe, recognize patterns. So I fascinated by what Africans think when they watch Bridgerton or what Black Parisian or Brazilian thinks. Black people are not a monolith. But Black people need to understand how we are perceived through the power of images and storytelling.

@shniyacarter9496

21 күн бұрын

Everytime I think about Jonathan and Simone having to pay for their own party it pisses me off. Because this season compared to their season Nicola and Luke got nothing but promo and parties yet Jonathan and Simone could barely even get any interviews of just the two of them alone because it was always with Charithra. That’s no hate to any of them I just feel like Jimone weren’t treated the same way as everyone during their own season. People love to bring up the fact that it was during covid and yes I can see how that would’ve been an issue, however, people who weren’t even the main cast (the side characters) got an entire group photoshoot together and Jimone could’ve even get one together for Vogue.

The lady that plays Lady Danbury said the diversity was always there in UK history really proudly. Yes but not quite the way Bridgerton is presenting it. In a time when new money was resented, I have no doubt that black people that did gain wealth, freedom, independence etc but I don't think they had the easiest time. I quite liked the film Belle for representing that. For me it gets even more complicated with Bridgerton saying Anthony's off to visit India. Is this a fantasy version of India with no colonisation? Are they travelling by ship while she's heavily pregnant? I love the diverse casting, they should have just kept it simple like you say. No explanations.

@LadyJenevia

22 күн бұрын

WE'RE HERE FOR THE VIBES and I need the people in charge to understand that. Anthony being completely obsessed with Kate, always wanting to cuddle her (and other NSFW things), just obsessed with how much he loves her, being completely unhinged with excitement over her being pregnant, THAT is what we want to see (and more, obviously, but that's the correct vibe). Also Anthony screaming during trivia. HILARIOUS.

@mk46794

5 күн бұрын

⁠@@buffyslyth1517 This!!!! This right here is why I can’t watch the show, have my cake and enjoy it! Cuz at the back of my mind is always “but, colonialism!” Also a reading rec: the interesting narrative of the life of Olaudah Equiano

@kohlinoor

2 күн бұрын

This is why the scene where Anthony tries to instruct Kate on how to correctly hold an "English gun" (because apparently the Indian ones were different enough to require unique positioning) made no sense to me... So in this universe, the gun wasn't a European invention that helped colonize the subcontinent?!

I agree with everything you've said, but particularly the VIBES. I did not enjoy S3 - it was stressful, paced badly, the balloon nearly gave me a hernia because I was laughing so hard at how cringe it was, and it was missing the fun Bridgerton family scenes and the fun feel I expect from a fun frothy show. It was neither fun nor frothy and other than some Kanthony scenes that I can get from youtube, I have no desire to rewatch S3.

@LadyJenevia

22 күн бұрын

The vibes were so far removed from what I want from Regency Romance fiction. I was honestly baffled because Nicola and Luke N have had YEARS to build a genuine banter and friendship so in theory, they could have done SO MUCH with that and it didn't feel like they fully embraced the FRIENDS part of the "friends to lovers" concept. I will say though that I've had fun poking around the Polin tag as a 'fix it' to give them the cute vibes that I wanted to see for their season. If they don't fix the vibes for season 4 I will need to see what sort of renewal announcement is given (for how many seasons, which couple is season 5, etc.) to determine how much or how little I will cover the show. Right now my plan for the hiatus is only to do AT MOST 1-2 Bridgerton videos per month. It's really more so like 1 video per month (originally the July video was going to be Francesca's book but that video is taking a lot longer to finish than I thought it would which is why this video came out first 😂). But also, there are plenty of Bridgerton video topics I have on my to-do list that are not about season 3. I feel like I've made more or less all the points I want to make about season 3 (and my issues with it) that if I'm going to carry on talking about the Bridgerton series I would rather put the energy into topics from the show that I LIKE. 🤭

@katrinarichards7891

20 күн бұрын

@@LadyJenevia Thank U Jonathan Simone Kanthony. and their fans deserve better. No wedding Honeymoon real outward courting and plot of this season they trying for baby Kate pregnant but never deliver the baby for us to celebrate their continued love story What u say about a spin Off for them CALLED Kate Anthony Milestones A Bridgerton Un interrupted Love Story

@AJ-ff2os

20 күн бұрын

I know how you feel. I've decided that I'm going to try and rewatch season 3 after I forget what a disappointment it is and see if I feel differently towards it.

I agree! By trying to give a logical explanation to the racial diversity, they pull you out of the story and it only ends up highlighting all the points that make it illogical. Even their in world explanation doesn’t work because do we really think that in a single generation all backlash of interracial relationships would just be gone? Violet was almost a teenager when society removed segregation, and yet her children have zero backlash, even from the older member of the ton, for intermarrying? As a white woman married to a black man in America, where society has been integrated for considerably longer than a generation, and who has faced a lot of backlash for my choice of spouse, their explanation is illogical. I would much rather they took the Cinderella approach and just cast people who were fantastic actors and let us really enjoy the story without explanations

I feel the sudden need to rewatch Mr Malcolm's List.

@LadyJenevia

22 күн бұрын

Yesss, definitely rewatch it! 🥳🫶🏻✨

@emilyhaas6136

22 күн бұрын

OMG, I LOVE Mr. Malcolm's List. One of the few movies I have actually purchased so I can watch it as many times as my heart desires.

I justify my Disney+ subscription by watching Whitney/Brandy's Cinderella at least twice a month. The songs still get me in the feels 🥰

@poohbesr19

2 күн бұрын

@@JaiTheFaeBae Me too! It's one of three things I always watch on it.

The historical deep dives in this video are actually so fascinating! Also... the Cinderella casting makes me think of theatre where they really _do_ often cast in a colourblind way. They probably should have done so with the Bridgerton family too to avoid some of the unfortunate connotations the show sometimes has. 36:57 also the cutaways to "What did we learn on the show tonight, Craig?" and Eames' "you mustn't be afraid to dream a little bigger darling" 41:09 had me screaming... the editing is too good!

The article is Daily Mail, “After all those Regency balls, Bridgerton stars revel in booze-up at the bowling” from Nov 27, 2021, author Katie Hind

Here for all the Blasian content - more please ❤

aaliyah said in an interview that they had screen tested a kiss but it didn’t bode well with the focus groups

@moustik31

22 күн бұрын

Pity.

@persephone342

20 күн бұрын

They should’ve done it anyways. That’s what Star Trek and it pissed people off and made millions of minority children and adults scream, “hell yes!” 😂 I’m mixed myself. My dad is black and my mom is white. Sci-Fi has always been more inclusive IMO.

@persephone342

20 күн бұрын

16:18 can I just say how gorgeous Bernadette still is!!

@cyt8284

11 күн бұрын

In the theater I saw it in, there was communal yelling at the screen that there was no kiss. The collective "WTF" at the end was a moment. 😂

The shirt looks like you've just lifted it off the bed of the husband you just killed and you are on your way to give your alibi to the police. Honestly, a perfect look

@LadyJenevia

22 күн бұрын

THIS SOUNDS LIKE THE PLOT OF A MOVIE I WOULD WATCH AND LOVE 😂

Regarding the wrap party that Jonathan and Simone paid for, it was published by Daily Mail. For seasons 1 and 3, Netflix/Shondaland paid for those seasons wrap parties but for S2 they only paid for sandwiches after wrap. I am also glad you pointed out the discrepancy between the press for the all white couple of S3 vs past seasons especially S2. People love to blame covid but they had all the supporting actors doing photoshoots and press all over the place, covid cannot be used as an excuse. Heck they had Rege and Phoebe do a photoshoot for British Vogue few months before the first season's release in 2020, literally the first year of covid when there were no vaccines available. It's very clear they just didn't want to promote Kanthony thus Jonathan and Simone as the main leading pair of the season. And I can't help but see how it is most likely due to racism (since Phoebe and Nicola seem to have gotten so much more press as the romantic female leads unlike Simone) and homophobia with them not caring to promote Jonathan and Simone since they can't push the pr dating agenda that the Bridgerton pr team seems to have pushed for Nicola and Luke. Like for a romance show, you would think that the leading actors would have gotten at least one photoshoot together but nope they couldn't even bother doing that for them. They just didn't care to promote Simone and Jonathan as the leading couple and it stinks of bigotry especially when Netflix/Shondaland have a history of treating their non-white and queer actors unfairly.

@LadyJenevia

22 күн бұрын

Jonathan and Simone don't need fake-dating rumours to sell the show! The chemistry was simply THAT GOOD that all you need to do is put them together. Also, they can still look good together in a photoshoot, what does that have anything to do with fake-dating for PR? Dress them up in some exquisite fashion and have them pose! I still want someone with SENSE (and a whole lot of money and influence) to pair them together for another rom com/romance story. If Meg Ryan and Tom Hanks can do two Rom Coms together and Julia Roberts and George Clooney can play married couples 20+ years apart, WHAT MORE IS THERE TO UNDERSTAND? 😂

@Nightingale691

22 күн бұрын

@@LadyJenevia Exactly! They both looked absolutely gorgeous together in season 2 and 3, they have that spark and charisma that is often rare to find nowadays on TV or even in movies. I truly hope they can work together in a romcom or so, cause their chemistry is just that amazing. They both also have had great photoshoots done individually and are extremely photogenic, they would have looked amazing together in a photoshoot for sure.

@AuntieM27

15 күн бұрын

I also felt that the writers did not play fair with the storyline in season 2. I love season 2 and I adore Anthony and Kate. Their chemistry is electric. I wasn't too keen on the Viscount in his book - I think Lady Jenevia called him a toxic caveman, which summed him up and Kate was just too compliant. Their show characters were much more suited. However, the story itself was rather bland and too much like Season 1 (forced marriage). It certainly needed some changes to liven it up, but why did the writers make it SO complicated. It really did require careful watching and judging by many posts on Facebook and on KZread a great many people totally misunderstood the story and thus misjudged the characters, turning Kate and Anthony into villains, which they certainly were not. It saddens me that so many viewers became haters and I blame the writers for that, Those of us who took the trouble to follow the storyline carefully, were treated to a beautiful love story, superbly acted.

@thulaganyomodise

7 күн бұрын

@@AuntieM27 I agree. I think that main issue with the storyline in S2 is that the writing paints Kate and Anthony as villains when that is not what is supposed to be happening. I am not a book purist so when I saw them change some storylines I wasn’t fazed. I do feel like they didn’t have to drag the love triangle when they could’ve focused more on their PTSD as individuals and their inner conflict that comes with choosing your heart over everyone else. Even though its still my preferred season out of all 3 its still disappointing to see how the writing made our leads look selfish and inconsiderate.

Love this video! When they put Cinderella on Disney+ I cried it brought back so many memories. I played that vhs OUT.

@LadyJenevia

22 күн бұрын

When Brandy and Paolo do their meet cute I just DIE from how good they are together. It’s just ICONIC 😍🤩🥳

Love 1997 Cinderella Brandy perfect Cinderella

@LadyJenevia

22 күн бұрын

TRULY ICONIC, THE BLUEPRINT, THE STANDARD, NEVER BEEN OUTDONE

Wow! The timing is amazing. I just rewatched Whitney’s Cinderella with my niece so she could experience how amazing it truly was and still is even after all this time❤✨ and when we watched the new Descendants movie she was so happy to see them back together as the parents! It was so cute and moving! Bringing it all together!

I cant lie. I wanted John & Michael to be East Asian or SEA. They didnt even need to be the same race as they are cousins not brothers. The actor who plays John is great i just remember being a bit disappointed that we still only have EA & SEA actors playing idiots or simpering bg characters. Also, it's definitely a...choice...to keep the Queen alive when only the first book or two are set during her lifetime.

@nct127anddojacatcollabplea9

22 күн бұрын

sophie is going to be east asian

@persephone342

20 күн бұрын

Why can’t she be Latina?

@rosedalinevaletine6931

16 күн бұрын

I was hoping for that too. I’m not surprised or excited about Sophie being SEA/EA. I don’t want to expand on why.

@persephone342

16 күн бұрын

@@madelion24 I must have responded to a comment to a comment here, but I don’t see it.

@indigoskies5434

6 күн бұрын

@@rosedalinevaletine6931right I personally don’t know how to explain it but I’m not

Season 2 of Bridgerton is the best for me, I will not be rewatching season 3 and I highly doubt I will watch season 4 because how they wasted Benedict in season 3, and kind of jacked up Francesca and John’s story. I love diversity and Whitney Houston’s Cinderella, Romeo Must die( it annoyed me that they didn’t kiss!) and Rush Hour are three films that I enjoyed and still enjoy! A great video essay Lady Jenevia! 😊

@LadyJenevia

22 күн бұрын

I am curious how the really casual audience is responding to season 3 because I’m assuming they don’t have THAT many complaints if they’re still tuning in to watch it. TBH I think the 2 year gaps between seasons are more harmful than the issues I addressed in this video. People grow, evolve, and move on to newer things. I don’t mind doing ONE video per season whenever a new one drops but if seasons 4 onward stick with the melodrama angle I won’t be emotionally invested anymore. 😅

@shniyacarter9496

21 күн бұрын

@@LadyJenevia taking 2 years for each season is gonna be insanely damaging for them. if you do the math there’s 8 seasons and for each season it takes two years in between to film. that’s 16 years of production plus when the season is releasing. by that time florence (hyacinth) will be in her 30s playing whatever age she’s supposed to be when she gets married 😭.

'Ninja Assassin ' also had BW/AM leads that didn't share a kiss at the end when they should have.

@Heal627

14 күн бұрын

@@teewhyemm1130 That was irritating... Love that movie...

@prettynpetty8342

8 күн бұрын

That movie is my guilty pleasure. Rain (AM) has always been fine. They had so much chemistry too.

@teewhyemm1130

8 күн бұрын

@@prettynpetty8342 I love the part where he says, "Oh Mika, Mika." So cute.

@prettynpetty8342

8 күн бұрын

@@teewhyemm1130 When I tell you I was screaming, crying, throwing up, and fainting at that part. Like not this butterflies feeling 🦋. I need to rewatch that movie now.

@teewhyemm1130

7 күн бұрын

@prettynpetty8342 LOL, I watched it after I made my first comment. 🥰🥰

I literally just listen to your vids regarding bridgrerton and I love every angle you explore this show with one can see the love and labour gone into this !!! Lots of love 🤍🤍

@LadyJenevia

23 күн бұрын

I actually had the ‘Blasian Solidarity’ video in my head for YEARS but I kept feeling pressured by KZread to put it off “because algorithms” and then I found a way to thread it into Bridgerton and I jumped at the excuse. 😂

Wow. I couldn't believe I just agree with every single thing you said and also got a "small history lesson" at the same time

@Ana_Paula.Frasson

22 күн бұрын

Also, I have something else to say. That's all I've been thinking for a few years now and not enough people talk about it. Especially the "marrige ends racism", most of my friends have either both or at least one parent black and more than one has spoke about suffering racism from their own grandparents who don't accept their children married a different skin color. If imeddiate family can be left unconvinced in situations like these, how do you want me to believe a whole country would be ok with it? They claim "fantasy", but it's too close to home to suspend disbelief. And mind you that my country's history tells that black people were incentivated to marry white people so the next generations would be "less black"(no need to say that it backfired), so even being common to see interacial couples everywhere prejudice very much still exists centurys later, one couple, the very same year of their marrige in a vrry white england, fixed it all? They use the "it's a fantasy" card for everything and never really laid out their worldbulding properly, which shoved them to corners they didn't antecipate. Other races families (asians, indians, blacks)are valued because a black woman married a white man even if other races had nothing to do with it, because fantasy. But gay people are closeted because "the time period". The aristocracy living of taxes and exploiting other people to live very superfulus lives is not talked about, and they talk like we talk today, because fantasy. But women suffer sexism because "time period". They don't draw a line where it ends, they don't know the rules of their own world, they keep contraditing themselves, all because they want to explain everything when they could've just go with stuff and let people enjoy being creative as well (and yes, a real colorblind cast would be a good way to go no questions needed), that goes from the ton itself to the costuming, the formal situations and manners (practically inexistent at this point). They lack solid ground.

@LadyJenevia

22 күн бұрын

Literally the more they try to explain things the worse it gets. All you have to do is Jane Austen except in Elizabeth Bennet’s family, everyone is a different ethnicity/culture a la Whitney Houston’s Cinderella. THAT’S IT. And crank the romantic yearning and banter up to an 11 out of 10, add some NSFW scenes (that only appear after enough emotional / relationship buildup) and you’re good!

I always love watching your videos, and a point I would like to add on is their choice for the “explaining diversity in the period drama” leaves questions/opportunities they are not willing to answer or follow through on. For example, I think you’ve mentioned on your season 2 review the issue of these British ppl going to India, and how colonization is still probably happening but we the audience are supposed to ignore that. As someone who studies ethnic studies, it’s hella jarring to ignore that a lot of these wealthy ppl including BIPOC would’ve gotten their wealth from slavery/colonization. Another is we don’t get more into was cultures these characters come from besides the Sharma family and that’s because Simone pushed for it. For the Black characters i asked my friend what is the culture for Black Brits as I understand that it is not the same for Black Americans, and she explained it’s the mixture of African and Caribbean cultures due to majority being from immigrant families. This made me think of other cultures like what does different Asian cultures in Britain are like. I would like to see that on my screen if I’m supposed to understand that racism is not an unheard thing in this universe and from Queen Charlotte is actually a plot point. I also need them to hire more writers of color for these stories. And I agree with your opinion on how they should’ve went with the Bridgerton/Featheringtons being a multi-racial families because I think it would eliminate the scarcity mentality of which race/ethnicity gets to be leading lady/man. It allows for everyone to get a chance to see themselves on screen. Sorry for the long comment, I really enjoy your videos, they are always so engaging with the topics you introduce. Thank you for creating them.

@LadyJenevia

22 күн бұрын

Yes to soooooooo much of this. The Regency Romance setting was always riddled with privilege stemming from especially dubious origins but we love to get into those stories because it’s just about viiiiiiiiiibes. I remember being a child and hearing Mrs B go on and on about “5000 a year” and “10000 a year” for Mr Bingley and Mr Darcy’s income and thinking “What is their job? I’ve never seen them go to work ONCE” but then I just didn’t prod it further because it was ultimately about the romantic viiiiiiiibes and hilarious family banter (only the 1995 version had that, to be clear, the whole family was hilarious). 😂 All we need to love the Bridgerton characters are romantic vibes and hilarious family banter (and heartwarming moments too). It doesn’t need to be overcomplicated, it’s not the right premise to tackle those topics the way they would need to be addressed.

@_benniag6300

21 күн бұрын

@@LadyJenevia EXACTLY! I just wanna watch these folks fall in love, like don’t force me to now question the merits of their wealth and society lol. I feel like Bridgerton wants to have its cake n eat it too you know? Like I know shondaland is known for its drama but I’ve always felt that even Shonda’s other productions i.e Scandal, Greys Anatomy etc don’t do a good job in tackling the themes of race and class. And for a romance show like Bridgerton adding in those elements that the show runners are not entirely comfortable with telling or and let’s face it, can fully authentically understand will just make your viewers more upset in my opinion.

Cinderella and Romeo Must Die really did something to my brain. Speaking of the kiss I think they also did the same thing when Ninja Assasin came out.

Firstly, yes, love romeo must die and Whitney's cinderella. Go to happy films from my childhood. Thank you for talking about them and also give me more passion projects. Also hell yes to S4 giving me more vibes. The actors have beautiful friendships and chemistry as a family, I want that on screen!!!! So the bridgerton discourse. You are right Jonny and Simone paid for their season wrap party as netflix wasn't throwing one. But that was Nov 2021 in UK, we were still dealing with covid issues (I know my work was hampered by an outbreak following a team gathering at that time) and I suspect due to the production shutting down apparently 3 times during filming due to outbreaks, netflix probably thought (wrongly) that it was irresponsible to promote a social gathering by throwing a wrap party in case it caused a superspreader event (those were fun). Regarding the lack of press and tour for S2, Jonny Bailey was involved with a westend play from Feb 2022 through till June 2022, doing 8 shows a week over 6 days. This massively limited his availability for press. Throw in the drama surrounding his play co-star catching covid then ending up dropping out the play, he probably didn't want to do too much press dodging questions about that. This was at a time people wanted to get back to in person appearances rather than zoom ones. Why him and simone didn't do the junket alone I don't know, the show seemed to push the unnecessary triangle between the sisters. In both situations there is more to it than it seems initially but netflix do not get off scot free, in both cases they could've done better (reimbursed Jonny and simone for the party, even if they had organised it, they shouldn't be covering the cost, done more to give Jonny and Simone some promo or where jonny couldn't do promo e.g. in America, let's have both Simone and Charithra talk about being sisters) We will have to see what happens when we eventually reach promo for S4. We know Luke Thompson, likely lead of S4 doesn't do social media and is guarded when it comes to talking about anything other than his work (good for him) will be interesting to see who his costar is and if the 2 of them agree to undertaking a press tour or have the opertunity to do so. I'd love to know how much of press is in actors contract and how much is them willing/agreeing to do it. Also will netflix go all out for press following S4 when in some ways this press tour could've been so big to ensure the numbers stay up so they guarantee the S5&6 renewal. If that renewal comes soon after they get the final 91 day viewing figures, we'll know why they promo'd the hell out of it, they needed numbers for the renewal guarantee

I'm so glad you made this video!!! I was saying to friends just last month that Bridgerton casting should have gone the same route as Whitney Houston's Cinderella, and I absolutely ate up this video!

@LadyJenevia

22 күн бұрын

I think some people are averse to the use of the word "colour-blind" because they associate that with people in charge being exclusionary by going "anyone can audition" but then they don't think enough about diversity in the sense that you do need to keep it in mind so that you proactively pursue being more diverse, inclusive, not falling into tropes/stereotypes that could have easily been avoided, etc. When people say they want "colour-blind" casting like Cinderella (1997) we mean that we want it to go SO FAR FORWARD that you break new ground towards creating a truly multiracial ensemble at every level of the story (main characters, supporting leads, extras, etc.) and creating multiracial families without explaining the reason why the family is multiracial because the explanation really ISN'T NECESSARY for the story to play out as is.

@lauradavison8068

22 күн бұрын

@@LadyJenevia yes! When I was super young, I lived in the Middle East, and as a small child, I didn't register that I was "different" (I'm white), until the adults started pointing it out to me. And like, that's what I want in shows like Bridgerton and why I fell in love with Whitney's Cinderella. Worlds where people don't feel the need to point out "oh you're white/black/Asian/Arab" and instead everyone is just human. Because we are! Which is not to say that we don't need shows and stories that do tackle systemic racism. We absolutely do. But we need to present a vision for a world where race is not a defining feature of how we perceive and treat each other, as well as challenge the ways in which we currently do perceive and treat each based on race. Have you watched Space Sweepers? I don't know if sci-fi is your thing, but I adored the way the universal translator was depicted: everyone got to speak their own language, and they all understood each other. Like, the "solution" to differences (cultural, linguistic, racial, etc) is not to make everyone the same, but to not let those differences become barriers. Plus, the villain is a white capitalist, which I appreciated.

@lauradavison8068

22 күн бұрын

Oh, and to follow up, just thinking of Star Trek: I loved that in OG Star Trek you had Nichelle Nichols, George Takei and a character who was meant to be Russian in such prominent roles without their races and heritages being A Thing™️. And I hated when Discovery came out that the marketing made it A Thing™️ that Michael is black. They should have just let Star Trek continue to be a world where race was irrelevant to the roles characters could have, either within Star Fleet or in the story-telling. Did earlier Star Treks get it all right? No, of course not, but isn't the point to always be learning and growing? And, with Star Trek, to again be creating a vision of a world where systemic racism has been undone.

Mind reader! I was about to go on a rant about this, so excited to hear your perspective!

@LadyJenevia

23 күн бұрын

@@jamdoe6486 Rant away, the comments section is open (within reason, of course 😂)

I work in tv production and the wrap party happens at the end of filming and includes talent and crew. Typically factored into the “expendables” part of the location section for a show’s budget, they can be super expensive ranging from a couple of thousand to tens of thousands of dollars for an evening party at a restaurant or on location with catering. Talent usually don’t fund these parties because they usually host their own but showrunners tend to pay for them more often. It’s a tax write-off for them. I have no idea how many people work on this series but wrap parties tend to only include crew on site for filming and not post production, so 2/3 of the crew participate. Hadn’t heard the rumor about Bailey and Ashley paying for it but when episodes cost $7mil (average) to film, that’s wild to know they possibly didn’t have enough budget for a wrap party.

Lady J, I love that shirt on you. It looks super chic 🥰 P.S. It didn’t escape my attention, as a woman of colour, that the couple that was given the most press was the one couple in Bridgerton that was entirely white.

@LadyJenevia

23 күн бұрын

Thank you! I more or less NEVER go shopping recreationally unless I’m back in 🇯🇵 because it’s where I can find clothes that actually fit me AND that I like the style of so now while I’m filming videos I get to try out different things I got there! 🤗

Your videos are so great! I appreciate how you set media into the historical and cultural context and the world of business. Art is ALWAYS a product of its time and that is so often lost in the discussion of media. Please keep reminding us of the connection between the world at large and things the things we love to watch/ read/ listen to. 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 Also, love Brandy Cinderella 🫶🏿. I still sing the songs to this day!

@LadyJenevia

22 күн бұрын

Some works of art are more/less political than others but all art is influenced by the world and circumstances surrounding it! ❤️‍🔥 Thank you for your support! 😊

NGL my mixed race kid self thought this being as multi cultural as it was was normal. Like the royal family not looking alike but being related made total sense to me because that is my family

I really enjoy how thorough this video was. When I first started watching Bridgerton I wasn't even thinking about race until they mention it. Honestly, I thought it was going to be like Brady Cinderella where in that universe that fantasy world race didn't exist. I love how you brought up one of my favorite movies. Hearing of all this reminds me of a book that turned into movie the sun is also a star. I personally prefer the book but yes, I love that you mention ways to properly executing cross culture friendships whether it's in a form of blasian solidarity or other interracial relationship. I love a good movie or book that knows how to allow the character to be a character without restricting them because they form their own conclusion or fear that it would not be receive well in the real world. Or because of their close mindedness and bias falseness. It reminds me of a character I love in a show but since the writers had a biased opinion of their race, they didn't allow the character to be a character. Someone did an essay video called The "Updateable" BIPOC CO-STAR. Which goes more into depth on topics like these. But it does rise an issue later down in the storyline and cause the character to be singled out, which no longer makes sense not only for the character but for the whole plot of story.

Black Americans knew who Jet Li was in 1996. That fight scene in Once Upon A Time In China II was legend.

I need the Blasian solidarity movies to have a comeback! There’s been more Blasian couples in shows and movies as of late, but I need more stuff on the big screen featuring us together!

You did this video well. Brandy’s cinderella deserves her own video. But you made some excellent points about the casting choices. They should have taken a page from Whitney’s (Queen mutha) creation.

Oh I LOVE this video. I distinctly remember getting Cinderella on VHS for my birthday after it came out ❤. If they would have built Bridgerton this way it would have been SO much better. As usual, another amazing video from you.

Whitney Houston's Cinderella is the GOAT production period. The fact that the production team was so on point and made sure the background actors also relected the level of diversity we saw in the lead cast, it just felt natural, and as a Bay Area native (shoutout Oakland) it reflected the world in which I grew up. It would've been amazing if Shondaland's production team had "dreamed bigger" and went with the Brandy style colorblind casting, with Black, Asian, Indian, etc. actor's making up the Bridgerton family. But hopefully this is a jumping off point instead of a foot note. Also here for the Blasian movie trifecta, Romeo Must Die and Rush Hour were some of my favs growing up. Would've also loved to see a mention of Mr. Malcolm's List, tangential representation and a delightful movie.

I'm about a minute into the video, but I just had to stop to let you know the cool shirt and awesome makeup combo makes you look like a fabulous vampire on vacation 😍

@LadyJenevia

23 күн бұрын

So… Morticia Addams? 😂 I LOVE HER BTW 😎🌹🥀

@AN-kc9td

23 күн бұрын

​@@LadyJeneviaomg yes, i love her too! I also really loved the thoughts you shared in this video, definitely will be checking out the rest of your content ❤🌹🥀

PLEASE MAKE A FULL VIDEO ON BRANDY'S CINDERELLA 😭 I need that in my life! Also as a side note I found it really funny when the whole controversy with The Little Mermaid happened and in the back of my mind I kept thinking y'all would absolutely fume if you knew about Brandy's Cinderella😂

How funny,I just rewatched this Cinderella a few days ago!

@LadyJenevia

22 күн бұрын

It’s always a good time to rewatch it! 🤗🫶🏻✨

That diverged wildly form where I initially assumed we were being taken, but I appreciated the journey, in the end. Thanks.

@LadyJenevia

22 күн бұрын

Yay, I'm glad you appreciated it! I just really wanted an excuse to talk about those movies because I LOVE THEM. 😊

I am so in love with this take! I have always held Whitney Houston’s Cinderella on a different level than anything I’ve ever watched that tried to “add” diversity. I first watched it when I was 4 years old and think about it always! 10 minutes so g and sequence lives rent free in my head. Thank you so much for talking about it and the mark it made for so many people and the movie industry. ❤️❤️❤️❤️

@LadyJenevia

21 күн бұрын

There’s people saying that Whitney’s Cinderella casting the way it did only works because it is for children and truly what a WILD take. It’s not only children that watched and loved it. 😂

@violetotaku

21 күн бұрын

@@LadyJenevia 🤣 absolutely a wild take!!! My mom loved that movie and would watch it with me if it ever was on abc movie night or when I would break out the vhs 🥰 it was a family sing-along-long ( she is a Whitney fan and musical fan) ❤️

Also the news source I’ve seen regarding the wrap party of Season 2 with Johnny and Simone is found by the Daily Mail. The Article is titled: “After all those Regency balls, Bridgerton stars revel in booze-up at the bowling”

I remember as a 90s kid watching Brandi's Cinderella and similar to you, I wasn't analysing the diversity. I don't think I even processed it as, 'she was a black Cinderella'. I remember thinking she was someone who looked so similar to me without linking it to her being black. I think kids are very good at embracing the effects of something without knowing/understanding why it has that effect.

@LadyJenevia

22 күн бұрын

In the reunion panel there was mention of a “before” and “after” of watching that movie but if you grew up watching it as a child? There wouldn’t really be a “before”. It would simply go into SHAPING how you understand the world and humanity itself, and what’s possible. 🥰

Finallyyyyy!!! Not enough people talk abt the BEST Cinderella movie ever made the songs arent even on spotify its a DISGRACE

Loved this video. Thank you for this! I remember recording and rewatching Cinderella on repeat as a kid. Truly amazing & completely disappointing it’s not been done again in other media. Also I loved the segue with the Late Show with Craig Ferguson meme thrown in there.

@LadyJenevia

21 күн бұрын

If I randomly think of a reference that makes sense at a particular point I will try to get the clip I need to make it happen. 😂

I clicked so fast seeing that someone is talking about my favourite version of Cinderella since i was 3 years old. Nothing! Comes close

I will always check with you first Lady J before I watch any entertainment media. You are so intelligent. Thank you for sharing your great insights!

@LadyJenevia

22 күн бұрын

Thank you so much for watching, every little bit of support helps! 🙂‍↕️

When I first started season 1 I thought they were doing Cinderella casting and was so shocked when it wasn’t that! Would have been so easy

Time to watch Romeo must die! I feel like I watched it before maybe it’s been too long?

@LadyJenevia

20 күн бұрын

Definitely recommend going back and watching/rewatching it! ❤️‍🔥

I really do like this video that you made. it brings up the conversation that writers and other people making movies and TV shows need to be having.

Thank you for this video, it just took me back to my childhood! I watched all of these hundreds of times I absolutely loved them all. You are absolutely right when it comes to Bridgerton s3. There are on a few scenes I would go back and watch. This season was just different and not fun. I think I will go back and watch these movies though 😊

@LadyJenevia

22 күн бұрын

Yessssss, always fun to go back and watch some classics! Enjoy your movie marathon!

I must subscribe now. Loved all of your takes. If we could just get Disney to remaster the 1997 Cinderella version so its at least 1080p and has dolby because that movie is a masterpiece.

I love how Cinderella offered no explanations because it didn't need too. It's a fantasy, a fairytale. Anything can happen.

3:40 So I actually looked into this because i was very curious when the press tour started and people began complaining. The earliest i could find is a pretty recent Reddit post linking to a Daily Mail article with picture of the cast leaving the party and there was a screenshot of a tweet but I can't find it anymore. All I could find after that was an interview where Johnathan Bailey and Simone Ashley said they had another wrap party that they organised at a bowling alley but there were no mention of Netflix (and why would they during promotion). Then I couple days ago i was listening to with Nicola and Luke with the BBC where they were talking about the press tour and how extensive it was she mentioned that it was their first bridgerton season post covid restrictions and that Jonathan Bailey had been doing a play during the season 2 roll out (like Luke Thompson this year). That all i could find after that it's not much and i doesn't really change the optics. P.S: I was going to say your shirt is giving Romeo + Juliet and that not a bad thing at all.

@LadyJenevia

23 күн бұрын

I fully believe that if there is hard evidence publicly available about this, online teamwork will track it down. 😂 As for my shirt, aaaaaaaaaah, I’m assuming you’re referencing the 1996 Romeo + Juliet I’m taking that as the absolute HIGHEST compliment because that’s a Baz Luhrmann film, he’s one of my absolute favourite directors, and his wife Catherine Martin does the costumes for all his movies and she is an absolute icon, truly, a legend in her field! 😍🔥

Istg this is all the things I like and hits all my favourite nostalgia notes, only way it could’ve been better is if it somehow included the interracial love story featured in The Golden Child (1986)

Fantastic video!!! Not sure why YT recommended it to me, but Im glad they did. Sidenote: In my experience as an American black woman in America, Rush Hour has not aged AT ALL!!! The jokes HIT...ALL of Them. Great video. Thanks for sharing!

I’m honestly so in love with your videos. You’ve somehow created a video for a very niche concept that included some of my favorite 90s/00s movies. This is a video I didn’t even realize I needed until now. Thank you for your dedication and hard work 🥰

Very interesting analysis co paring Bridgerton/Cinderella/RomeoMustDie/RushHour.

I always love your passion project videos. I just listened to your Elvis video on a drive the other day! SO good! Everyone should go watch - it gave me a greater appreciation for a film I already enjoyed.

@LadyJenevia

22 күн бұрын

I LOOOOOOOOOOVE THAT MOVIE and myself and another stan of it (and all the geniuses involved like Baz Luhrmann, Catherine Martin, Austin Butler), we have been miffed seeing everyone bully the movie and Austin only to start to tiptoe back towards them… NO, WE’LL BE GATEKEEPING NOW CAUSE WE REMEMBER ALL THE NASTY THINGS YOU SAID (though this is a cycle Baz has with literally every movie he’s made where people talk trash and then you fast forward a certain number of years and then people correctly acknowledge it’s a classic 😭)

@kateliness2

22 күн бұрын

​@LadyJenevia My spouse was listening to the Elvis video, too, and he was absolutely floored to learn that Baz has been snubbed from the Oscars! I feel the same way where I really only want to gatekeep when I felt like I had to *rightfully* defend something repeatedly. Like, you don't deserve this greatness now.

That press tour couples thing - could it be that Bridgerton might be losing steam, and the producers are trying to ramp up the appeal to the more traditional romance *novel* audience? Just a random thought. Frankly, I love the first season and was willing to suspend disbelief and enter this alternate multi-cultural universe, probably because Regé-Jean Page was so watchable. His chemistry with Pheobe was excellent, and I found the characters compelling. Seasons 2 and 1/2 of 3 (yeah, I never made it to the second half of the third season) struck me as overblown and less interesting. I dropped out. They are not taking the necessary time to develop the characters as interesting in their own right. Getting worse for me as the series wears on. (Sacrificing character development for soap opera level 'plot'.) Boring. (to me) EDIT: Cinderella -- YEEEEEESSSSS! "Love plus love equals love."

@LadyJenevia

23 күн бұрын

Season 2 had an entire subplot that could have (SHOULD HAVE) been scrapped but the chemistry and vibes of Jonny and Simone truly carried it to where it’s still the season I revisit the most. Romance fans just want the main couple(s) to VIBE, there is zero need to over complicate that. 😆❤️✨

Honestly only reason I clicked is because I saw my favorite Cinderella. 😂❤

Brandy is my favorite Cinderella😭😭 ugh the music is so good toooo

i know for a fact this was served to me by the algorithm because of brandy and paolo's names and the fact that've been watching descendants 4 videos lmao, and i am thankful!

Ohhh, "Romeo must Die"☺️☺️☺️ as someone who isn't American I didn't know Aaliyah was a singer and who Jet Li was. But, girl... after watching that movie, I was obsessed with both! The chemistry was of the charts, Jet Li became my top action man next to Van Damme and I wanted to grow up and look like Aaliyah.😅😅😅

@Blueredlady

12 күн бұрын

You didn't know Aaliyah was a singer? 😢omg I don't know what music you like but please listen to her 3 albums. She was, and will always be ICONIC

@Blueredlady

12 күн бұрын

One in a million is my favourite! Album and song by her. Rock the boat is her last music video

The Brandy version of Cinderella is my definitive Cinderella, over any Disney version or Ella Enchanted or Ever After. (Ignoring ALW cuz fuck him.) Consider myself seated for this video. I also had this idea that if Bridgerton was gonna be authentically diverse the way that Brandy's Cinderella was, the Bridgertons could easily be a Chinese-Filipino family (they give me that vibe of being Filipino) while the Featheringtons could be a Black family.

@LadyJenevia

23 күн бұрын

Is ALW… Andrew Lloyd Webber? Or am I missing a reference? 😭

@AMoniqueOcampo

22 күн бұрын

​@LadyJenevia Yep. Andrew Lloyd Webber tried to make his own version of Cinderella which epically failed.

I love your video! Well organized, with plenty of facts to back everything up. I'm all here for Blasian Solidarity. I was 9 years old when Whitney Houston's Cinderella came out and my whole entire family sat in front of the TV to watch the premiere! I was so happy to see a black Cinderella! My parents got me Brandy's Cinderella Barbie Doll for Christmas and then I was Cinderella for Halloween. Being a little black girl in a predominately white city, attending predominately white schools was tough but that movie really helped me in so many ways! Edit- New Subscriber!

This is an awesome video essay I’m so happy I found it! I immediately went and watched that descendants movie and lived for Brandy and her man. So sweet!

This is exactly right. This is something I have been saying for years not just in Bridgerton but in Hollywood in general that they feel like they have a need to explain why people of color are on screen. like you can't just have a POC in a show or movie without explaining to there audience why they are their in the first place it's rude and I feel more racist then not putting use there in the first place. Bridgeton bated us into believing there was going to be true diversity, but all we got was 2 main white family's every season and interchangeable people of color for every season except Queen Charlotte and lady Danbary. If the Bridgeton or and Featherington where also diverse it would have meant so much more. The only other show I feel like came even close to Brady's Cinderella was " Still star crossed " from ABC that sadly got cancelled after 1 season, that didn't even get completed. Surprisingly it was a Shandland show as well. It had true color blind casting with no explanations as to why people look how they look and are related to each other, in that time period. It just was what it was.

Brilliant! Thank you for the insights.

I agree. The oddest thing about the show is that it’s seems like a white aristocratic family is being romantically invaded by all forms of “othered” people. I’m here for diversity but this show is entirely janky.

There are people such as myself who search for content specifically about Whitney Houston and Brandy's Cinderella. 👀

@LadyJenevia

22 күн бұрын

LISTEN... I've had this video sitting in my brain for YEARS but I kept having to put it off because every time I try to do something that the algorithm doesn't favour (and keep doing that because I'm being stubborn about wanting to do whatever I want) my channel would get stuck. When I finally figured out I could use Bridgerton to put the spotlight on this era of ✨CINEMA✨ (and also because Brandy and Paolo got hired to play those characters again), I jumped at the excuse. It's an iconic chapter of film history and more people need to remember that! 🥰🥳

THIS VIDEO. So good, I wish I could give it multiple thumbs up!

@LadyJenevia

22 күн бұрын

That's soooooooo nice of you to say, thank you kindly! 🥰

3:40 I saw a post on reddit! There’s no way I can find it now, but I think JB mentioned it in an interview and I saw a screenshot of his comment posted on Reddit. But yes, I can confirm, at least, the post does exist somewhere on the internet.

@LadyJenevia

23 күн бұрын

Let me know if you manage to track it down! 👀

@burnt-croissants

23 күн бұрын

@@LadyJenevia fs!

@MalysSand

23 күн бұрын

I just made a comment about this, but that they “had to” pay for it is really not a big deal.

@burnt-croissants

21 күн бұрын

@@LadyJenevia hey, i was able to find that post after all! but how do i share it if links are disabled??

Great video. Thank you for the historical and cultural background.

I loved this movie and Paolo was my first crush 💖💖