Your grasp of etymology and its use in the telling of the Myths, (Facts) of old present and future is second to none. Enjoyed this immensely.

Thank you for your continued work! It helps a lot of young people like myself to better understand the thoughts, habits, and lives of our European ancestors. Respect from Germany!

@grahamluna6935

Ай бұрын

And respect to you too, brother. from Ireland.

@thegreenmage6956

Ай бұрын

No more brother wars. Ich hoffe zu sehen sie alle, richtig, norenmal. Ac sláinte I chi hefyd, brawd o Celtiaidd.

So often in comment sections I find myself coming to the defence of Zeus when he is slandered for his unfaithfulness. Its refreshing to see someone else come to my conclusion that Zeus' lovemaking is the means of divine creation. I like your idea of Zeus as day. This supports my theory of two Greek pantheons. The Olympians are Order and day while Chaos and night are the domains of Nyx and her many children. These are not hostile or antagonistic groups, just opposite forces to ensure balance. Between Order and Chaos are Divines like Nemesis who move between both. Interested to see the Divines as distributors because that is the origin of the name Nemesis. She distributes good and bad "luck" according to Divine judgement.

@wildmen5025

Ай бұрын

Hail Father Zeus! I hate the slander of Zeus. It's so completely without actual base that it's not even funny. Glad to see there are others out there that adore the Father of Gods and Men!

@daniellogan-scott5968

Ай бұрын

@@wildmen5025 My primary is Athena and Athena loves her father, so what else can I do? People forget that Zeus' Roman counterpart is sometimes called Jove, from whom we get the word jovial. This leads me to one of my favourite stories about Zeus when he picks up his second favourite daughter, places her on his lap, and asks what he can give her. Little Artemis then recites a list of all she wants, like a girl on Santa's knee, and he granted her every one of them. :)

@wildmen5025

Ай бұрын

@@daniellogan-scott5968 I love that story too. Zeus is such a wonderful father. I really think we need Zeus in our community now more than ever and I am so glad that our heavenly father has a growing following. We could use a lot more benevolent father energy

@Uriel333

28 күн бұрын

Zeus is the only God I know that has cried tears of blood when his favorite son has to die (Sapredon, a Trojan, mind you, prince). Zeus is like Ragnar Lothbrok from the show Vikings, he mates with the best women in order to produce the best children that have fame everlasting. As people say, every myth starts because Zeus "couldn't keep it in his pants". Exactly! Zeus is the life-giving, creative spirit of the World/Consciousness!

@wildmen5025

27 күн бұрын

@@Uriel333 Finally! Someone that gets it!

In the Hebrew Bible god does not create water, he hovered over the water in the beginning. He separated the waters but he never creates the water. Almost all near eastern religions say the gods came from the primordial waters.

@rockonpurification

Ай бұрын

"Did God create the waters?" The answer is given in the Hebrew text: בראשׁית ברא אלהים את השׁמים ואת הארץ The fact is that God ברא (created) the השׁמים (heavens - plural) in (the) בראשׁית and so that’s when the waters were made when the heavens were made. In Biblical cosmology the heavens were made of water hence המים (waters - also plural) is incorporated in the word השׁמים (heavens) As such the waters belonged in the heavens because the heavens contained waters and the Spirit of God was over the waters or over the heavens and over the earth for that matter. These were all created בראשׁית (in beginning). And if this is not the beginning then it can’t be called the beginning. Also, the waters were created in Genesis v1 in the very beginning. Because they were part of the heavens which were created in v1 in the beginning at the same time that the earth was created. There was nothing preexistent for if there were (other than God who created them) that would not have been the beginning of creation or the beginning. This therefore means all things in the heavens and the earth are created after this beginning point.

@AnneShirleyMarshall

3 күн бұрын

Awesome!

Thank you for the videos. This is one of my favorite channels.

Excellent presentation; this top shelf, quality work is very much appreciated.

love this style of video. Great work

Greetings ! It's "Theogony" not "Theogany". From "theos" meaning "god", and "gonos" meaning "offspring". Really like your videos, keep up with the good work !

@FortressofLugh

Ай бұрын

Yes, I know. A silly error which unfortunately cannot now be undone.

Thanks for opening up my mind about this video 📹 it was truly interesting to me and I enjoyed it very much 😮

Well done, loved the video. Thorough and engaging👍 Thank you

Love these videos that tie all these big concepts together

The work that’s gone into this is incredible! I could listen and watch these for hours . The filmography that’s gone into this omg ! I am curious where the beautiful images come from? They are hauntingly beautiful

Brilliant!! I have been trying to tell ppl this. You worded it so much better than I ever could have.

One of the best videos ive ever seen on the subject

Fantastic work as always.

Another beautiful video! Thanks!

Always a great day to receive your new work. Thank you Kevin ✌️😎🇿🇦

Such an amazing video! Dyaus = Day and light Light =Conciousness, perception, clarity, and as such, agency and power.

Hmm...ur closing comment was really insightful, and something I'd never really considered before. Well done connecting those dots.

I loved this. Really resonated well with a video I myself recently made about the PIE gods.

Excellent video, thank you sir.

On the topic of how Zeus, Poseidon and Hades pair with Hera, Demeter, and Hestia here are some idea. Zeus (king) pairs with Hera (queen) because as stated the indo-european theme of marrying the land to gain sovereignty. Poseidon may translate as master/husband of either earth or water or even lord of rivers depending on whose etymology you go with. Demeter may translate to earth mother. Poseidon in the linear b tablets is associated with Demeter and Persephone. This could point to a watering of crops association. Hades could pair with Hestia as he reigns over the home of the dead and she over the homes of the living. Hades not having a wife and Hestia being the eternal virgin could also reflect this as they live in mutually exclusive realms.

@wildmen5025

Ай бұрын

If we go by the Roman account of the Dii Consentes, the pairs are as follows: Jupiter (Zeus) and Juno (Hera) Neptune (Poseidon) and Minerva (Athena) Mars (Ares) and Venus (Aphrodite) Apollo and Diana (Artemis) Vulcan (Hephaestus) and Vesta (Hestia) Mercury (Hermes) and Ceres (Demeter) Pluto / Hades doesn't get listed because He isn't an Olympian in the proper sense though (for obvious reasons) He is paired with His wife Prosperpina / Persephone. Obviously these ideas all came later but based on the lore of all of these Gods I think these are the most appropriate pairings (though the argument can be made just as strongly that Poseidon and Demeter should be paired together). It should be kept in mind however that there are accounts that list Poseidon as Athena's father. They're linked much more than just the one time They fought over Athens

@williammills1942

Ай бұрын

Hades is strangly absent from linear b. In my opinion another name for Hermes/Zues.

Great video, Lugh.

Very astute conclusion!

Really glad you aren’t AI. Great VIDEO. Keep it going. Thanks

Great video! So it seems like simulation theory has been with us right from the very beginning.

Personally, I prefer Homer over Plato Nice video🤘🐺 Slava Veles

Plato in the Cratylus also traces the etymology of Kronos from a verb meaning "to sweep," saying it signified a "pure and garnished mind." He goes on to say that Uranus is rightly so called, "from looking upward, which as the philosophers tell us, is the way to have a pure mind."

Thank you

I love the fact that these gods were not tasked with the absurdity of creation ex nihilo.

Thank you for the information in this video

water the gods? oh shit, thanks for reminding me

@kkech1

Ай бұрын

Can you put in a good word for me while you're at it?

@aariley2

Ай бұрын

😂🤣😂

@joarGyjuRanar

Ай бұрын

Jupiter is Lugh and Tyr and Zeus. The real sky fathers are Ouranos, Mac Greine - Mac Cecht - Mac Cuill, Ymir, and Caelus or Cœlus.

Just found you 😍 Fantastic ✨✨✨

6:11 "Bagh" in Persian also means orchard. Interesting that in the clip people were distributing fruit while the discussing the Slavic word "bogh"

i like the switch up at 18:40 😂

Amazing

Hesiod's Eros & Nyx turned out to be an allegory of Gravity & Dark Matter. Brilliant Genius.

@DevoteeofThunor

Ай бұрын

According to who?These are literal beings not metaphors

@artawhirler

Ай бұрын

​@@DevoteeofThunor That's right! (But then, I even get upset when I hear someone refer to Athena as "Minerva") 😊

@Djhuty

Ай бұрын

Swine nibbas when pearls are cast before them:

@arturhashmi6281

Ай бұрын

@@DevoteeofThunor It depends for whom for many Greeks they were personification of various phenomena not real beings perse

@arturhashmi6281

Ай бұрын

@@artawhirler Im Canaanite and I get upset when someone reffer to great goddess Anath with this trendy greek term

"Chronos" actually just means time in ancient Greek, like in "chronology", not to cut. Like Ouranos means "sky" - these first generation gods are all personnifications of natural phenomena.

@Karatop420

Ай бұрын

OK, fair enough....so, uhm, what natural phenomenon was so explained by separating heaven from earth.....or castrating heaven? Which phenomenon was represented by the firmament? Lmao, sometimes ya just have to accept that the ancients didn't know much about nature, but they had an imagination and could tell a helluva story.🤷‍♂️

@ArcaneMormon

Ай бұрын

Chronus is a different name from Cronus.

@petrapetrakoliou8979

Ай бұрын

@@ArcaneMormon Yes, the name Κρόνος must reflect a more ancient pronunciation of time but most greek authors still did make the connection between his name and time (χρόνος). It is like in ancient Swedish they said "thing", now they say "ting".

@ricksmith9256

Ай бұрын

Maybe the concept of time has connections to cutting or dividing. Like you take boundless infinite sacred time and you slice it up into discreet units of mundane time like seconds, hours, days, etc. so you can measure and record it. Idk it sounded good to me :^]

The most ancient Greek believers did not have a philosophical understanding of their gods, nor an Indo-European one -which was not yet invented by speculating scholars - but genuinely believed in their gods as actual living beings who did procreate each other and hold special powers as well as were immortals.

@Thunderous333

Ай бұрын

The philosophical understanding is putting into words what the subconscious cannot. Sure, the average ancient European or Greek may have seen them as real beings, but that subconscious connection to the mind and the overall themes of the Gods was always there, just waiting for men to discover what they'd created.

@skeletorlikespotatoes7846

Ай бұрын

They still had a philosophical understanding 😅

@petrapetrakoliou8979

Ай бұрын

@@skeletorlikespotatoes7846that is a perfect illustration of the historian's phallacy. Usually it is actually committed by non historians or by those who never had the opportunity to think about how different is the world-view of people separated from our culture by a vast amount of time or space.

@skeletorlikespotatoes7846

Ай бұрын

@@petrapetrakoliou8979 😂 they desperately need to say it's fake. They desperately need to project their disgusting boring worldview into the past to feel certain. They're so afraid of things turning out to be different 😂

@skeletorlikespotatoes7846

Ай бұрын

@@petrapetrakoliou8979 I'm of the view that the ancient Greek experienced the world differently....that consciousness wasn't the same....and that they may very well have experienced these deities. We simply don't know. Again moderns refuse to admit anyone in the past could be as smart as them or have experienced these things....it's an identity crisis for them....they freak the fuck out when they hear how some ancient Greek lifted a 1000 lb stone because they cant believe they could be stronger. They can't believe maybe just maybe deities are simply beings or forces that dont fit into the classical view of physics.....just like quantum mechanics didn't 😂

I appreciate that the voice in the video sounds less fake here. Still sounds like a deepening/altering of a natural speaking voice but doesn’t sound as “kid trying to make his voice deeper” that plagued some older videos

@duskevalek4407

Ай бұрын

He is altering his natural voice, but not electronically. He's speaking slowly to enunciate. Why? Listen. Can you hear the accent? This man is FLUENT in English, but his first language is Soviet.

Thanks!

@FortressofLugh

Ай бұрын

Thank you

Well you can't accurately access greek myth's allegories without studying ancient greek philosophy and certainly can't if you do not now greek or ancient greek I am going to give you two hints hades Poseidon and hades are the same god at different plains of existence and hera symbolises the soul and the feeling of humans while Zeus logic and the human and universal mind

The story's to connect the meaning in the stars amazing in them days without technology knowledge my god

You have not given us facts to hang our hats on but an experience to wash over us.

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Hail Odin!!!!

Hail to the Gods of all nations! I believe the Gods are divine beings that control the cosmos and provide the various good things necessary for life. I believe it is important we have relationships with these beings so we can be in alignment with the order that They bring. This video was wonderful and I will be definitely revisiting it to contemplate it further. It's amazing how profound the traditions of our ancestors were.

@audreyroche9490

Ай бұрын

It's early astrology explaining in story's how planet works threw stars and moon amazing how thet put it into story's

@wildmen5025

29 күн бұрын

@@audreyroche9490 I disagree

@Dice_roller

27 күн бұрын

​@@audreyroche9490A complete and utter nonsensical claim with no evidence whatsoever. What you're rhetorically and insultingly describing as just mere "astrology" are religions in their own right.

@audreyroche9490

27 күн бұрын

@@Dice_roller nope astrology is science based on energy u know what energy is u can't see it can u see electricity no thats energy are u saying that u don't understand the energy of planet and how energy works as when u die your body loses its energy spirt leaves the body lol the hole world is an energy u clearly no idea how planet works moon an energy son an energy your negative comment an negative energy if u don't understand something a suggestion research it classed as sending out black magic been negative and argumentative

@audreyroche9490

27 күн бұрын

@@Dice_roller a belief is something that doesn't exist lol science exists so do moon stars sun we be dead without them and dead without energy we wouldn't be dead without reglion lol

Is there anywhere in this video where you deal with the question what are the gods?

The xenogears background music fits lol

The image at 15:04 is misleading: it should be the one at 9:30. The River rising from the Well below the world in the far east, flowing to the far west, is described as Milky. The map is universally (catholicus) seen, only the regional (paganus) tales vary.

Why do you think that the English word "God" is related to Gaelic? You can find the same word in all Germanic languages to which English belongs to. In Swedish for example it is: "Gud".

Logos is the root from which logic comes from. It means speech in a sense but not so much as as sound, more like the will that is expressed through words.

Consciousness in the old Germanic world!? They didn't even have a name for such a notion. They lived way before the philosopher Locke. Germanic gods go back into Prehistory, thousands of years before the 17th-18th century notions that you are discussing here. Nor do I grasp the link between Canadian populistic politics and ancient Greek gods.

@TheWizardOfOunce

Ай бұрын

I’m glad someone else noticed the shoehorned populist politics. I’m still deciding if it ruined the video or not.

No religion can claim to have a monopoly on virtue-wholesomeness and goodness-, veneration of creation, and claim over the universe's power. Remove any practice of human sacrificeor extremes of behavior, and paganism becomes quite palatable.

@audreyroche9490

Ай бұрын

Reglion was forced on people in Europe Britain Ireland basically god rules the planet threw the sun moon and stars including our karma good or bad very clever floral back then ti know si much about stars so on

@audreyroche9490

Ай бұрын

Pagan just a negative word the reglious ones put on the astrology beliefs when uts the leaders whi carried on using astrology for evil gods consciousness is your intuition third eye which they took away with reglion

@Dice_roller

27 күн бұрын

​@@audreyroche9490Complete and utter nonsensical claims with no evidence whatsoever. What you're rhetorically describing as just mere "astrology" are religions in their own right.

fantastic that this pops into my recommendations right after I started reading American God :)

I this k it’s not exactly correct to think about ancient chaos as cosmic structures. Back then the stars on the sky were thought as a part of the Earth world, the idea of them being a distant world maybe presented but not popular at all. The chaos in that view was representing the idea of uniformity - a great ocean. Many cosmogony myths are describing the uniform water as the origin state of the world, then a creation of the land and sky by some miracle event like crack of the egg in the common diver myth and depiction of the body like in two brothers and a cattle myth.

Black library writers would benefit from watching these videos

@Dice_roller

27 күн бұрын

The hell are you going on about?

Thanks for the connection ti astrology as greeks were good at astrology

I heavily recommend the entire religious history series by Schwerpunkt on the topic

@Bautista503dhdb

Ай бұрын

Stop recommending this guy. He’s not a reliable content creator and doesn’t even mention the sources he uses.

Unsurprisingly, the original question is not answered, but I appreciate that it is discussed, especially the part about gods as those who are called to and who can answer these calls. This is both a very specific thing to say about their nature, as well as a foundational principle of religious practise, and I would go so far as to say it is the most important thing to know about the gods from the perspective of a worshiper, whereas many other other questions about their nature are of much less practical concern to us. Another important aspect you mention is the distinction between goods being the same as something that exists and gods being actors who act upon that thing, govern its course and distribute it to human beings, though I would add that the same deity can relate to something in both ways, be identical with it and be a governor and distributor of that thing. Finally, the notion of the gods as creators not of the world but of the order of the world, not of things but of their purposeful configuration, is well put, though I doubt your reading of the myth of Cronos and Uranos as linking to day and night sky since the event described is a different one from Zeus' emergence from the cave, and while they may share a theme, by the time Zeus emerges, the separation of sky and earth has long been taken care of in the Hesiodic timeline. The idea is better supported by other myths like Zeus sending eagles in the cardinal directions every morning to stretch out the sky above the earth.

I wonder if this cut is symbolically recreated every time a Jewish or Islamic person is circumcised for religious reasons? any thoughts on that?

@stargatis

Ай бұрын

Circumcision is for us to remember famine, we have to remember not to have so many children we can’t feed them. It supplanted child sacrifice.

Bhidio sgoinneil mar a bha e an-còmhnaidh, slàinte mhath dhut.

❤

Controversial topic. Haven't watched it yet, but i believe the neo platonists got the most right, even though i disagree with some of their views. One thing to remember is the knowledge that was held secret by the aristocrats in their mystery cults. To me it's very clear that Plato got a lot of his ideas from the Dyonisian mystery cult.

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Things ever change. I can see the lightning bolts being shied down now!

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I was wrong. I thought that after your video on European women and on Palestine you can't possibly do worst.

Interesting but I don't think you answer the question "What Are The Greek and Norse Gods". In Norse mythology there are many powerful beings but some are consider Gods other not. And the Elves seem to be some kind of semi-Gods. Aesir seems to be all Gods. maybe Vanir as well, or is it just the Vanir that live with the Aesir? The Jotnar is generally not Gods but some are that are connected to the Gods like Skade and Jord. The Gods are not the first beings, and Gods can die, what makes them Gods then? Is it more a matter of what creatures supports humans and protects Midgård? "Our Team" are Gods and our "enemies" are not Gods? Olympians are Gods and Titans are not Gods?

@wildmen5025

Ай бұрын

The Titans had cults

the gods are not allegory. the gods are not nature. the gods are not symbols. they are eternal divine beings who rule justly over all the cosmos. they are personalities beyond tangibility. they are reflected in our world as nature, but are seperate from it. hail to them. let us worship them

@wildmen5025

Ай бұрын

Hail to the Gods of all nations!

@Raphsophomes

Ай бұрын

I was gonna say that. They use our world to express themselves in ways we can understand. Its a basic law of communication that you must have shared symbols. You cannot explain a rock to someone that has never seen one or anything like one, you have to use things they have seen to explain it relatively. These gods are not "Primitive explanations" of matter, matter is a primitive explanation of gods.

@arturhashmi6281

Ай бұрын

Why do you think that?

@dracodistortion9447

Ай бұрын

@@arturhashmi6281 well, because that is the essence of the divine. mere symbols and allegories cannot bless or judge or act.

@arturhashmi6281

Ай бұрын

@@dracodistortion9447 how do know that there are various beings acting not just one ultimate being transcendenting all the others? like eg. a lot of Greeks and Hindu people believed or still believes.

Diolch am holl, fel arfer, am byth.

Great video! Just a remark, because they are juxtaposed in this video, Odin and Zeus are not the same. Thor and Zeus are the same.

@DevoteeofThunor

Ай бұрын

Thor and Zeus are definitely not the same

@EudaimonV

Ай бұрын

You are looking it from the wrong angle. Zeus is equivalent to Odin because they both hold the same position in their pantheon. Not because of their power.

@alinaanto

Ай бұрын

@@DevoteeofThunor Agreed: not the same. But stemmed from the same root. Together with Indra, who is also not the same.

On the topic of Odin, he seems very much like a deified hero, I belive the story of him marching from the city of Asgard to fight the Celts in the black forest. The one where the only seer Odin has is like, "yeah don't know the sticks say it could go either way" (thus inspiring Odin to later trade his eye for reading lessons so he can call BS) The People of the Forest are people not gods and yet match the "gods" in battle. Then when the treaty is made it's agreed by the Druid representative of the People of the Forest that they will stop hunting the Aesir for Human Sacrifice. Then we get the most annoying hostage in all of history send his head to Odin who pickles it and talks to it in private. (cause Odin went a little crazy...) I feel when a myth is about something that must have actually happened, (like the border between France and Germany really did get established) and the only "magic" is reading or singing with no effect other than psychological (like in the Celtic and Aesir war) it can be treated as a historic account.

@RealUvane

Ай бұрын

The Aesir should always be hunted down and bled to death imo.

Fantastic work!

In my personal opinion, they are metaphysical concepts that were taken from natural phenomena. I also think that they're antediluvian, not newer inventions. With some exceptions of course.

I favor the idea of a provider god, rather than one who promotes doctrines. I need a Sugar Daddy god. Hahaha.

The first 10 minutes had no information, so I just turned off. Unless you convey an abstract within the first 15 seconds, people will loose interest.

0/10. not right once.

@EudaimonV

Ай бұрын

What do you mean ?? What was wrong??

@JohnnyMonday

Ай бұрын

Lmao

@bujuminodstrom2076

Ай бұрын

etymologies, relationships, significance. all.@@EudaimonV

tools used to control the great unwashed

The sons of God saw the daughters of Men and took of them wifes, the same became mighty Men of old, men of renown.- Genesis 6.2 Read the book of Enoch

@Dice_roller

27 күн бұрын

Nonsense.

The antediluvian gods, and nephilim. Myths by 3000 BC.

@Dice_roller

Ай бұрын

Nonsense.

Ever cup a fart and smell your hand?

Normally I really like your videos, but must you bring in modern day politics? Not only that but in a manipulative way pushing a certain agenda... Had to quit watching when I hit that part. That really annoyed me.