What are the Differences Between the Nod Factions? | Command & Conquer 3: Kane's Wrath
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Command & Conquer 3: Kane's Wrath has three separate Nod factions: Nod, Black Hand, and Marked of Kane, and I aim to help you understand the differences.
C&C Kane's Wrath is an amazing RTS (real-time strategy) game for PC and with this channel, I want to help boost your skill and understanding of it.
0:00 What the video is about
0:12 Production Structures
0:26 Support Structures
1:13 Infantry
2:12 Vehicles
3:09 Hit the like button?
3:14 Aircraft
3:30 Support Powers
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I have kept my word by posting this on Sunday.
@DreadGrimReaper
2 жыл бұрын
"Awesome work~"
@TheStrategistYT
2 жыл бұрын
@@DreadGrimReaper Thanks.
@lolghp299
2 жыл бұрын
Great video! And also it seems you are getting your first 1k views soon :P congrats! You really make some high quality content
@frocurl
2 ай бұрын
I committed recently I love this game to bad I'm old and ur Ok old but loved good games I played on 369
@frocurl
2 ай бұрын
@@DreadGrimReaperhere Black hand trumps anything cheap cheap powerful infinity lol blue flam will take up entire base down in a blink the only rival is armored chopper carriers that splash damage that shoot out missles.... Black hand
I feel that Black Hand set themselves apart from regular Nod better than MOK does. The focus on Cabal and flame weapon is very distinctive, and the lack of stealth and airforce is also noticeable.
@TheStrategistYT
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. When I was younger it was the opposite for me, especially because of the Cyborgs, Awakened, and Tiberium Troopers, but I see what you mean.
@odyseehasdislikesyoutubesu1892
2 жыл бұрын
MoK is better imo.
@odyseehasdislikesyoutubesu1892
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheStrategistYT i love the Mok , awesome faction.
You also forgot that the purifier comes with a flamethrower attached to it, and benefits from the purifying flame upgrade like all black hand flame units do. Black hand commandos also start at heroic veterancy when trained, flame tanks also start at veteran status when trained. Any black hand troopers tied to militant squads also benefit from purifying flame. There's more changes there with infantry (MoK gets cyborgs, for instance), but this was a good start.
@TheStrategistYT
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@bubbajoe117
Жыл бұрын
It may not be competitively viable, but lining the black hand purifiers up in a line and having them auto move comb through a turtles base with their blue fire is one of the most satisfying things ever.
4 weeks ago? Damn I’m glad people are still making content on Kane’s wrath
@TheStrategistYT
2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad people are still interested.
@bashdance
2 жыл бұрын
yeah me too. But it makes sense: there are not so many RTS games as in other game genres, and kanes wrath was the last good game of this saga
10 months ago. it brings a tear to my eye to know people still play such an old yet amazing game
@TheStrategistYT
Жыл бұрын
Big players like BikeRushOwns, GreenZero, and Masterleef still play, and Sybert casts it still.
Apart from the standard bike buggy the factions play very differently. Vanilla Nod has the popular mass scorpions with laser upgrade tactic. Black hand gets huge value out of massed basic infantry due to the cheap black hand member upgrade. MoK is imo the most difficult to play since its unique tactic is disabling enemy armor with emp of their basic and elite infantry. Its micro intensive and their completely lack of flame weapons makes it extra hard. Of course these are not the only faction unique tactics but just an overview.
@odyseehasdislikesyoutubesu1892
2 жыл бұрын
interesting.
@Toast_94
Жыл бұрын
Yea, black hand usually wants to flame tank rush or reckoner BH rush to try to end the game early. Due to how expensive purifiers are they struggle to keep up in the late game.
Not having an air tower is so stupid and artificial excuse by game developer in an effort to make factions different. Instead game developers should have given these factions exclusive units and buildings.
The mantis basically takes the place of the stealth tank, it trades stealth, speed, and the ability to target ground in exchange for a much lower price tag, lower tech requirement, and stealth detection. Because, you know, a stealthless stealth tank would be a bit nonsensical.
2:50 SILO! 😁
Would you do this for the other factions scrin reaper 17 and traveler 59. And then GDI steel talons and zocom this is pretty helpful for a beginner like myself
@TheStrategistYT
2 жыл бұрын
I 100% intend on doing that at some point, but it won't be anytime soon for reasons I will be making a video on soon.
@tntsoccer21
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheStrategistYT Good luck with finishing school and your military career. I can't imagine how busy you're keeping! With that said, like the OP of this post, I'm getting my friend and sister back in to C&C 3 and VERY MUCH enjoyed your shortcut key video and this video as well. Just wanted you to know that there is demand for your content! Thank you!
damn this is incredibly helpful, thanks for the time on doing it
I have received been really getting back into C&C this video is that exactly what I was looking for!!
Thanks for making this!
Fun facts: Black hand rocket squads can get tiberium infusion if you research it from a nod/mok secret shrine. Reckoners benefit from dozer blades (you missed this) Mantis in vanilla is the worst AA unit in the game. In 1.02+ it becomes one of the best. Beam cannons can use hammerheads for their reflector beam ability. Obelisk can be empowered by a maximum of 4 beam cannons. Black hand is one of the strongest factions in the game dominating the tournament and competative scene for years until its nerfs in r12. Its still regarded as a powerful faction.
@TheDude50447
2 жыл бұрын
Mok Awakened infantry benefits from the Black Hand particle beam upgrade. if the scanner pack research finishes the zone trooper railguns are instantly reloaded. finishing the extra hardpoints upgrade reloads firehawks and orcas mid flight even if they had expended all their ammo already. timed correctly several Avatars can share the same donor vehicle like a beam cannon or stealth tank. Steel Talons titan is the only vehicle in the game with 3 visible damage states.
@quangvunhat8193
2 жыл бұрын
Hammerhead is an GDI unit
@Phantom-9399
2 жыл бұрын
@@quangvunhat8193 i know that.
Great video men keep it up.
Honestly dude good vid man good vid
Great video man. Subbed 👍🏻
@TheStrategistYT
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm glad you liked it.
good video man keep it up Nod Rocks :P
i just love people who points out the missing/bad things and try to higher themself, with comments like "but this was a good start", which is such an arrogant comment. And to top it, this person hasn´t even made a video about C&C 3 TW/KW him/herself. I just wanna thank you for a good video, good info and ty for the work behind it!
good job bro, nice video.
@TheStrategistYT
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
Much thanks.
Each one has its own Daddy Kane
Good video! have a sub
@TheStrategistYT
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm glad you liked it.
You should try "One vision" mode. Really cool upgrades and support powers, such as Nuclear component for the Renegades (this is the classic NOD called there). You can literally shoot nukes from Specter, or drop nuclear bombs from the Vertigo.
@TheStrategistYT
5 ай бұрын
I did! It was a blast. Link: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZHtqlMiGY8a4ebg.htmlsi=mTTFKZmqzFfZAT9_
What button do I press repeatedly for another video for GDI?
Beam/phaser light defense turret (and generally obelisk temple scorpion rush (allied to somebody maybe) mosquito and bike sneak gaming).
Pretty cool as I play the game for myself, I pretty much know all of these and the Nod factions are pretty fun,
@TheStrategistYT
2 жыл бұрын
They are pretty fun. I find myself going as Black Hand and steamrolling the enemy.
for units that receive different upgrades between subfactions (Venom, Shredder Turret) I think it would be helpful to have the number data in terms of what that does for their damage output if you could find it. Might be helpful for new players to know how impactful or not impactful those differences are.
@TheStrategistYT
2 жыл бұрын
So, maybe I could do a video on how each faction works?
Wait- People still make C&C 3 content? How awesome!
Black Hand faction is probably my favourite one the Infantry is powerful
They are the same but different!
@TheStrategistYT
6 ай бұрын
Yeah!
Side-note: Cloaking Field has a lower CD in MoK than Nod's
forgot to mention purifier comes with flame thrower and the flame tank for black hand comes trained with elite
Hey what about cnc rivals game
"SILO!..." 😆
Black Hand buggy is the only one with stealth detection.
It would have been better if you also made a small demostration of each difference beetwen these units.
@TheStrategistYT
Жыл бұрын
What kind of demonstration do you propose?
can you make one for gdi too
@TheStrategistYT
Жыл бұрын
I already have it recorded and edited, but I'm waiting for some other things first before I publish it.
I'm Egyptian and I like your video
@TheStrategistYT
2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you liked it! What's Egypt like? I haven't been.
@nourmohamd1948
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheStrategistYT مصر جميله نسبين ;)ولاكن انتا رأع
@nourmohamd1948
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheStrategistYT مصر جميله نسبين ;)ولاكن انتا رأع
Black hand harvesters cannot stealth, mok disruption towers are half price, the purifier costs 3000 instead of 2200 and only affects infantry like a confessor or voice of kane, the buffs do not stack. And i think the black hand and mok raider buggies detect stealth, not sure about that one that might be an R19 update. If barracks or research from opposing nod factions is obtained upgrades can affect sub factions that don't normally recieve them like black hand rockets recieving tib infusion from nod
@TheStrategistYT
Жыл бұрын
I figured that saying that Black Hand doesn't have stealth covered it. I didn't write down prices to compare them until the GDI video (which I haven't posted yet).
1:13 Disruption towers are less expensive for Marked of Kane.
@TheStrategistYT
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
You passed over the bit where scorpions and reckoners can get bulldozer blades
@TheStrategistYT
6 ай бұрын
Dang it.
I feel like the Marked Of Kane should have had a Cyborg Commando and the Cyborg Reaper. mods fix this tho.
@TheStrategistYT
2 жыл бұрын
That would be very interesting. Do you know of an exact mod?
@factfiend1000
2 жыл бұрын
Would have been awesome if their epic unit was The Core Defender. Like if the Steel Talons had the Mammoth Mark II.
what does voice of kane do
@TheStrategistYT
2 жыл бұрын
It gives a damage boost to ally infantry nearby.
@ohhai1486
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheStrategistYT do they affect garrisoned infantry?
Confessor cabal is OP....build a literal army and rush the base. No anti air capability but the anti infantry and building is OP
2:50 SILO JUMPSCARE
so basically black hand is the most overpowered?
@TheStrategistYT
2 жыл бұрын
In my humble opinion.
This is very different from Rivals. 😂
@TheStrategistYT
2 жыл бұрын
Yep. This is a real RTS.
3:04 doesn't it also have a flamethrower?! It had in the missions
@TheStrategistYT
6 ай бұрын
Only the Black Hand has an Avatar with a flamethrower (called the Purifyer).
@FizzleFX
6 ай бұрын
@@TheStrategistYT ah... mixed em up :D
After watching this video, I feel that Westwood and EALA really lost their mind by giving Nod tanky units like Reckoners, Avatars and Redeemers. In C&C3 and Kanes Wrath, Nod playstyle is identical to GDI. It takes out Nod's uniqueness out from the game and story lore. Because the inclusion of Reckoners, Avatars and Redeemers defeats the purpose of using Buggies, Cyborgs, Attack Bikes, Flame Infantries, Light Tanks and Stealth Tanks, where in C&C1 and C&C2 when playing as Nod you have to resort to hit and run tactics, this what made Nod's unique to the game, and what made Nod different from GDI. GDI on the other hand is mainly focusing on survivability and firepower. I hope future RTS developers will take notes from this case.
@-my4skinwastakeninasickjew426
Жыл бұрын
Probably the only flaw with the game. But excellent point.
Black Hand Spectre can't shoot across the map with Shadow team beacon.
EA should remaster this game already.
@TheStrategistYT
2 жыл бұрын
Why remaster it when it’s already perfect?
@gtsgate
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheStrategistYT exactly, EA would probably make another money grab out of it
Black Hand has bugg u can train more than 2 commandos btw
@TheStrategistYT
2 жыл бұрын
I thought I covered that. Maybe I missed it.
exuse me can I ask you a question?
@TheStrategistYT
Жыл бұрын
Ask away!
@sueflewelling3657
Жыл бұрын
@@TheStrategistYT ok few things in lore what do you think would happen if the scrin invasion happen in the red alert timeliness and not the tiberium war. and to what do you think the overlord of the scrin would look like?
@TheStrategistYT
Жыл бұрын
@@sueflewelling3657 Interesting questions. When in the Red Alert timeline do you mean? As for the Scrin Overlord, I would imagine it(?) to look somewhat like the Annihilator Tripod, but more humanoid and nimble, but still very powerful. Maybe it(?) has mind control abilites.
@sueflewelling3657
Жыл бұрын
@@TheStrategistYT all of the timline of each game like the first one scrin would domanit it all 3 third one would have a bit more trouble like with the rising sun.
@TheStrategistYT
Жыл бұрын
@@sueflewelling3657 Ok then. I don't know much about any before 3, but like you said, Scrin would probably wipe the floor with everyone except for maybe the Rising Sun.
no its nuclear
@TheStrategistYT
2 жыл бұрын
That's what I said, or at least tried to say.
@fly7188
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheStrategistYT u got it right :P
@lolghp299
2 жыл бұрын
No I'm pretty sure its nuclear not nuclear
@TheStrategistYT
2 жыл бұрын
@@fly7188 I'm a little slow sometimes.
Black hand trumps anything no matter air support expensive infantry upgrade cheap powerful infinity overrun!!!! lol blue flam will take up entire base down in a blink the only rival is armored chopper carriers that splash damage that shoot out missles.... only optioned as GDI Zocom armored shoppers several upgraded blast troops with splash damage can also disimbarch off chopper but when fighting mid air upgraded troopers will launch missiles. Its a tough call. I'd give anything to see these two powers go head to head under certain rules baring mega weapons and nukes
I can't defeat opponent in brutal mode 😑
@TheStrategistYT
Жыл бұрын
I'd recommend that you watch Sybert cast some high-level play so that you can pick up some strategies, or just use Black Hand and ignore using vehicles.
Easier way to Explain 1. Vanilla Nod - screaming "Down With GDI" 24/7 2. Black Hand known as flame spammer -Dislike Stealth and prefer to fight head on -Flammenwerfer Lover -"We've got the rockets" Spam 3. MoK also known as Robot Nod - mainly relies on its Robot Forces and Venom - Hates steel talons (Because Of Adaptive armor)
we need to go back to 2d isometric graphics for command and conquer. hate this style graphics
@TheStrategistYT
6 ай бұрын
Interesting. I love them both. The style chosen for C&C3 help it be more timeless imo.
@Jinny-Wa
3 ай бұрын
@@TheStrategistYT Its nearly 20 years and it still looks great. The style carries it so well.