The Romulan commander as played by Bugs Bunny. "Of course you realize, this means WAR!"

This seems like as good a place as any to bring this up, but am I the only one who thinks that Robin Curtis' Saavik is hugely underrated? Unlike TWOK (where she's mostly there to roll her eyes at the wacky humans), TSFS gives her a lot more to do, and Curtis handles some potentially tricky moments really well; the pon farr scene could have been totally laughable, but she makes it work. She deserves far better than to be dismissed as Not Kirstie Alley.

@adamlove3295

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. When I think of Saavik, I mostly think of Robin Curtis.

@ErisRising

Жыл бұрын

She was the superior Saavik, no doubt. Alley had a better eyebrow game, but that was about it. Curtis gave the character some depth.

@jackkenefick2696

Жыл бұрын

it's just that Kirstie Alley would have done STIII so much better.

@richardjohnson9543

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. That's why I don't understand why Nick Meyer didn't like Curtis and refused to bring her back as Saavik for STVI when they couldn't get Alley. Valeris was clearly meant to be Saavik originally and her story would've packed far more punch that way

@richwagener

Жыл бұрын

@@richardjohnson9543 wasn't that because Roddenberry objected? I remember hearing Nick say he was annoyed that he couldn't do what he wanted with a character he created.

When my kids saw the Triforce symbols on Spock's robes when they saw Star Trek III for the first time, they came to the immediate conclusion that Vulcan is Hyrule in the future. Thus the pointed ears, the symbols, everything. Spock might even be a current incarnation of Link.

@Ugly_German_Truths

Жыл бұрын

but then who's Zelda?

@Jay0hAych

11 ай бұрын

@@Ugly_German_Truths Kirk, obviously!

@carolinemcgovern4488

4 ай бұрын

I'm very tempted to write that fic now. Sadly I know jack shit about Zelda.@@Jay0hAych

@iceblaster1252

3 ай бұрын

@carolinemcgovern4488 if you know the gist of Zelda there’s not really any real lore to follow. People try to put it into a timeline so that each game goes into the next but honestly don’t fret, just have fun

@carolinemcgovern4488

2 ай бұрын

@@iceblaster1252 Ah thank fuck for that.

Star Trek's first DC run in the 80s holds a special place in my heart. I always admired the way they filled in the gaps between II, III, and IV but then had to sort of undo their plot lines to get everyone and everything in place for the next movie

"The adventure never has to end!" -- The most Star Trek think Steve ever uttered.

It’s a shame that “Star Trek Continues” had to halt their productions. I was looking forward to seeing their adventures evolve into the style, and aesthetics of the films. 🖖🤓

@alexpattison6448

Жыл бұрын

Star Trek Continues was absolutely brilliant 👍

@herozero5555

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, Star Trek Continues has a BRILLIANT episode that reveals more story from the mirrored universe!❤️ Too bad the actor for Captain Kirk, years later, without looking up the details to recall completely, got into some kind of trouble in real life!😐

@annstevens6223

Жыл бұрын

Vic’s Kirk is amazingly good. Doesn’t have to rely on a cheesy shatner impression to do it.

@richardlecomte4874

Жыл бұрын

Star truck continues comes to a halt. That's hilarious. I guess it didn't continue.

@TheRockinDonkey

Жыл бұрын

Grant Imahara was great in that. Damn, he's missed.

People always seem to forget the comics. Almost every franchise has them, and they're usually packed with good to great stories about our favorite characters and more adventures than we know what to do with but so many fans just skip out on them for some reason

@ustrekkie92

Жыл бұрын

Probably because most people would rather watch the story than read the story. To that end I would put it that comics are the most inclusive readable movies ever and people are missing out on these stories!

@davidlordofthesquirrels9839

Жыл бұрын

Tie-in media like books and comics are often non-canon or disposable canon that the showrunners can freely ignore. This sets the expectation for some fans that it doesn't really matter what happens to favorite characters in a tie-in medium because it will never inform their story in any lasting way. People forget tie-in comics because they are often designed to provide short-term entertainment over impactful long-term additions to the lore.

@Strideo1

Жыл бұрын

Most of the adventures described in this video were goofy as hell, even for Star Trek adventures. 😂

@dawrushesin

Жыл бұрын

*cough cough* transformers *cough cough*

@accidentalmadness1708

2 ай бұрын

It’s a real problem just look at alien and predator comics.

I admire how some of the artists made no attempt to make the ship interiors, control consoles, etc. look anything like they did onscreen. Also, I know that at this point we’d seen no Romulans outside of those two episodes of TOS, but wow … the 1930s Buck Rogers yellow peril aesthetic here is really something else.

The comics had some fantastic arcs. The Trial of James T Kirk was great, not to mention when the crew had to escape Dante's Inferno.

As big a Trek nerd as I am, this is a question that has never actually occurred to me.

@pokepress

Жыл бұрын

I kind of just assumed they were in some sort of legal limbo for a while. Perhaps as a founding member of the Federation, Vulcan has some sort of special status or whatever that makes it more difficult to just hand over Kirk and his crew.

My nephews love it when I pick them up and yell "Give... me... Genesis!!!"

I'm impressed that they were able to make the stories match up without using time travel or erasing all the previous issues from history.

Captain Jesus, lead character of the hit novel The Bible 2 - This Time It's Biblical. I do like that Jesus is still always portrayed as looking like the same young Italian guy that Da Vinci was doinking when he made all those paintings.

Never seen a Star Trek comic and frankly, I’m intrigued by the art alone

@D21BeastReviews

Жыл бұрын

I've read a lot of Star Trek comics. If you're looking to jump in, I recommend anything written by Peter David in the 80's or 90's and anything written by Scott & Dave Tipton in the modern IDW era. Have fun!

Well that was fun. And even though the comics you spoke of did do a fun job of “maintaining continuity” in a convoluted manner, they can also be an example of the fun you can have by ignoring continuity and telling your own story.

I enjoyed those comics very much. Also, after The Undiscovered Country, these comics went on for a few more years telling stories set BEFORE that movie. Then one day they decided to go on telling stories set at the TOS time. I didn't like that. I felt Star Trek had evolved beyond that. Even today, when I think of Kirk and Spock, I see them in their monster maroon uniforms.

@wills2140

Жыл бұрын

And there have been a few comic books covering Star Trek : The Original Series, or varying iterations of varying quality.

I remember being obsessed by this particular run of issues for the reasons you mentioned, namely how they managed to adapt to a film that completely upended the status quo in a way that allowed them to get back to telling the stories they wanted to tell (and the readers wanted to read), and then reset everything back to the ending of the film without discarding any stories they'd told along the way. With the exception of the minor cheat you mentioned in the trial dialogue, I thought that it was a masterful solution, and worked well within the spirit of the franchise.

I really appreciate how you make your videos accessible to those who only have a casual familiarity with Trek. I've seen most of TNG and Voyager (it was current when I was a kid), Piccard season 1, about half the movies, and a smattering of episodes of the other shows and I know more than is needed to enjoy your videos.

@bottombarrelbudgetfilms1854

Жыл бұрын

Highly recommend finishing TNG, the ending is phenomenal!

@bottombarrelbudgetfilms1854

Жыл бұрын

Also Deep Space Nine is amazing especially if you see a lot of TNG before it

@brucemorris3830

Жыл бұрын

Picard season 2 is well worth watching, and I’m on pins and needles for S3 of Lower Decks to drop this weekend. I enjoy that so much more than I expected to. By the way speaking of Trek cartoons, the old Star Trek: The Animated Series from the… late 70s? Early 80s? Is often forgotten but well worth checking out. And fun fact? That was actually where the concept of starships having a Holodeck was first introduced!

I am so glad I stumbled into your youtube video on these classic Star Trek issues. As a kid I really loved these issues because they were able to give depth to these legendary characters in a way that the original series was unable to accomplish. After Lein, left the series Peter David would become the primary writer and I absolutely loved his era with the comic. In the late 90s, Mr. David also wrote Star Trek novels and I was actually able to invite him to the bookstore I managed at the time and converse with both him and Robert Greenberger the editor of the book at the time. Man, they loved doing those books as much as we loved reading them. And as a bonus they actually signed all my comics that I had over that time period even though they were there to promote their novels.

I hope you will include "Dark Mirror" by Diane Duane in your perspective of the mirror universe. Having not seen TOS before TNG as a kid, that was my first introduction to it. I think it definitely holds up. AND, your favorite TNG character gets to play a bigger part in it 😀

@albertnewton8296

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that was the First Trek book I got, and it's still my favourite

@ErisRising

Жыл бұрын

I loved Dark Mirror so much. Even though I'd already seen the original episode, and had caught a couple of the issues he'd mentioned above, that was the beginning of my obsession with the concept.

@RideAcrossTheRiver

Жыл бұрын

That?! I read it recently and it seemed as if Duane had never seen TNG--or she didn't like it much. Data had barely a role; Crusher was non-existent and a brunette (what, how?); and there was some weird premise about telepathic porpoises. The few interesting things were evil-Troi and altered Shakespeare.

@pdbouie

Жыл бұрын

That was definitely a classic star trek novel. The mirror universe in that novel was indeed very dark. I think I might've fit in nicely or die early for some snarky remarks. " is old shiny still taking his afternoon nap?" "References to my head withstanding, i stop needing naps in kindergarten and you Mr. La Forge are just asking for trouble!" Classic absolutely classic!!!

@pdbouie

Жыл бұрын

@@RideAcrossTheRiver yeah the dolphin bit was a stretch a long taffy like stretch indeed. This is why the enterprise official has subaquactic(?) quarters and other areas of ship filled with water. What the fk? Really! I mean, come on Really SMH...... I don't recall data being in the mirror universe and of course crusher was the captains woman (ugh). Got to admit wesley in the agony booth would've been. Hoot to see and Troi was absolute beast. Tho no change in Riker, he was just as slimy and useless in the mirror universe as he was in the normal universe.......

Spock was busy studying the whole time to determine the answer of "how do you feel". Gets him every time.

I'm always interested in the Enterprise-A era (canonically, the period between movies 5 and 6), not unlike the Enterprise-E era outside the movies. Would love to see a deep dive into that.

Most important Trek, Actually entry yet. Star Trek III is close to my heart.

When I was a young lad of 12-13, I'd repeatedly spend chore/allowance/birthday money on DC's Star Trek and TNG issues. It was frustrating, because I'd routinely miss a month or three and wind up having no idea what was going on, but I still have a bundle of issues of both series I bought in the early 90s.

@richardjohnson9543

Жыл бұрын

Missing issues was what eventually drove me to start buying my stuff from the local comic book stores. Didn't miss any after that

Wait… you’re telling me this comic I’ve never heard of has “Sorak” in it, and I just started playing Solasta which also has “Sorak” in it? OMG IM IN THE MATRIX

Apparently there’s a six year gap in-universe between Final Frontier and Undiscovered Country. Plenty of time for a whole other Five Year Mission.

@michaelaker1621

Жыл бұрын

They pretty much did. Halfway in is when Sulu left to take command of Excelsior. The comics and pocket books have enough adventures to cover a large part of this era. By VI they had either completed another five year mission and were back on earth for occasional assignments, or were doing the "ongoing" thing for the last six years. It's stated at the beginning of six that Spock had requested personal leave for a few months when he was negotiating with Gorkon.

First time watcher. The writing and delivery in this video is top tier. Wow.

I could never get into the comics when I was younger but your narration and presentation made them seem so exciting. I would love to see more of this.

I loved those two runs of Star Trek. It gave me ST when there was nothing new for years. So great.

The Trek comics after ST3 were my introduction to a monthly comic series I could get into. They had great adventures. Some of the highlights included: a ST annual issue that focused on the transition between Pike and Kirk, a second annual that dealt with the end of the five year mission, unique Surak crew members, and the Ajir and Grind fighting to the death! (nudge nudge, wink wink). Sulu also got to fight in a giant robot once. Then there were the original characters of Lt Bryce, Bearclaw and a Klingon named Konom. The stories the comic dealt with were some of the best out there IMHO. There was even a "Who's Who in Star Trek" set of special issues which acted as a Trek Encyclopedia years before the Okudas did theirs for Pocket Books. Great stuff!

I loved ST III when it came out and it's always been one of my favs! "I.... have had... enough of... YOU!"

I really loved those Star Trek comics as a kid. Growing up I was the only person I knew who read them.

I was not as big a fan of Robin Curtis as Saavik, and I can pinpoint exactly why. I read the novelization of The Search for Spock before I saw the film itself, and the novelization gave Saavik such a rich inner life, characterization, and then in the film, not only was Saavik portrayed by a new actor, but the character didn't act like the one from the novelization. The half-Vulcan half-Romulan conflict from the novelization was largely absent, as was the relationship between Saavik and David. I will admit to not having consumed either piece of media in a good twenty years, so it's possible if I rewatch with fresh eyes I'll enjoy it more. Does Saavik get any good character moments in the DC comics' run? I did enjoy the character greatly in Wrath of Khan, and would love to see more story for her. There's part of me that wonders how Star Trek VI would have played out if, rather than Kim Cattral's new Vulcan character being the traitor, it was Saavik instead.

@mikavirtanen7029

Жыл бұрын

It would have been dramatically fantastic if Saavik had been Valeris character like Nick Meyer had originally intended. Meyer was mighty pissed when Roddenberry went to the Paramount brass and forced the change.

Those action adventures between Star Trek 3 and 4 reminds me of a few series of 4 novels about the action adventures between TOS and The Motion Picture. These were 'The Lost Years' by J.M. Dillard, 'A Flag Full of Stars' by Brad Ferguson, 'Traitor Winds' by L.A. Graf, and then 'Recovery' by J.M. Dillard. (I've just read the first one.)

The mirror universe was an interesting idea in the original series, and it was a nice nod to the original series to revisit it in Deep Space 9, but I am sick of seeing it featured in every new Star Trek. Discovery was particularly bad for this in that they built such a convoluted plot around it, including a redemption arc for a mass murdering dictator from the mirror universe. Redemption arcs are tedious at the best of times, but for mass murdering dictators they are absurd. Also, the mirror universe seems to be the bad makeup universe.

4:59 I'm immediately reminded of Star Trek: TNG's "Family"... one of the best and, in a way, most radical episodes of the series because that kind of thing appeared so rarely. I was going to wonder what happened to Mirror Spock's revolution that was implied at the end of "Mirror, Mirror", but I guess in these stories we kind of get the beginning of it.

I used to have Star Trek comics from Gold Key when I was a kid about a hundred years ago, of the original series, of course. I don't remember much about them, but for 8 year old me it was just like having new episodes in comic book form.

@lukesomers2031

Жыл бұрын

Man, the Gold Key comics were pretty good classic 1960s-1970s science fiction, but Star Trek? Often not a great fit.

Currently reading Legacies (pre-flashpoint DC thingie) and missing Len Wein's as a writer. And Mike W. Barr never disappoints, tbf.

@SteveShives

Жыл бұрын

Barr is an incredibly underrated writer. He wrote a lot of Batman stuff in the '80s and '90s that I have loved since I was a teenager.

Thanks for this. I never got a chance to read this story and this helps fill in the blanks. As usual you did a great job summarizing this story.

I know it maybe doesn't matter, but I thought of a way to link the continuity error you mentioned about the charges of theft, destruction, etc. Let's say the Romulan situation blew up amongst some Romulan Government Officials and Certain Military leaders, so as a show of good faith, the Federation offered to play the whole incident down to the point that it never happened. Capt Stiles was happy to go along with keeping everything hushed up, as he now had the chance to keep his repeated getting embarrassed by Kirk from never getting out. Plus, basically, the Mirror Universe people's actions had stirred up tons of trouble, and the Federation didn't want that becoming public knowledge either, as could they be held accountable for actions of Star Fleet in another dimension? I mean, Star Trek ships and people go between dimensions and timelines as part of their daily routine, and they don't have immunity when they're there.

@libraryplayer9154

Жыл бұрын

That would be my take as well. Events being covered up. Especially as Kirk's hearing at end of IV seems to be in public, Kirk facing the original charges of taking the Enterprise to rescue Spock etc. probably sound more palatable and cause less alarm to the public then Kirk breaking treaties to go into Romulan space (potentially starting a war etc.)

Star Trek 3 very much opened up the universe. I loved the new ships and new looks

I love the Kirk et al on the Excelsior comics. Such a neat alt- reality example. I hadn’t realized they did that course correction to line up with the movies.

Im waiting for a "A stitch in time" video from you. I really liked the book and i think Andrew Robinson captures Garak so well in it.

Thanks for the trip down memory lane. I still own the entire run of both DC's Star Trek series. Pardon me while I pop open my comic book boxes and sit on the floor, visiting some old friends.

@richardjohnson9543

Жыл бұрын

One other cool thing about that run was none other than George Perez doing the first few covers!

@robertbanning9138

Жыл бұрын

“visiting some old friends” is exactly what I tell people when they ask how I can possibly like TMP and TFF.

9:37 ahh yes, the conclusion of the "first" of the "New Frontier" type stories. Fans eventually got a novel *and* a Star Trek book series with that title, over the years. Nice commentary and review, thanks! ☺

@wills2140

Жыл бұрын

17:21 talking about crazy "ol Jim Kirk plans" Star Trek V has what you need. lol 😉

Loved this Steve, I have read and own all of those original comics, and for me this was a great stroll down memory lane. You have a subscriber sir.

Yes I read the D. C. comics they were pretty good actually. It was the crew's adventure on the excelsior.

Excellent narration by Steve "Waylon" Shives, there at 17:17 😄

Thanks for this. These were my only connection to Trek back in the 80's. No internet, only the comic shop or Waldon's Books keep me in the know for Star Trek. Funny that just two weeks before this presentation, I found all the back issues I missed for this run at a comics shop for a buck a piece. Quick piece of info, Harve Bennette wanted the crew to get the Excelsior after ST:IV not the Enterprise-A. But Gene Roddenberry said no.

Great video. I was surprised by how nostalgic I got seeing some of the comic panels I hadn't seen in years, especially from the Star Trek VI adaptation (which I read before seeing the film in 1991). Only a very few months before she died, I watched Star Trek III with my late mother for the first time in about 20 years. I believe she had only previously seen it once, on a black and white TV with poor reception, so this was the first time she was *really* seeing it, and she *loved* it. After the movie I mentioned that "Voyage Home" was a direct sequel to "Search for Spock", and that the ending flowed directly into that movie. Unlike "Search for Spock", she had seen "Voyage Home" many times and it was always her favorite Trek movie, so she was pleased to be reminded of this. However, although I hadn't read most of the comics featured in this video, I then qualified my statement about III leading into IV by sketching out what I knew about the comics. My mother seemed very displeased and unhappy about this, and I felt guilty about wasting her time talking about it (since she was, after all, terminally ill). Then Mom said something I've never forgotten: "Only the TV shows and movies count, not the comic books." And she said this categorically enough that it was clear she was talking about, not only Star Trek, but any fiction franchise in which TV shows and/or movies are the primary component (e.g., "Doctor Who"). Therefore, I asked, "Does that mean that for characters like Superman and Spider-Man, who were created for comic books, that only the comic books count?" And with the same certainty as her previous comment, she said, "Yes." The MCU already existed then (in 2012), but Mom never saw any of it. As much as I've enjoyed what little of the MCU I've seen (and as much as Mom respected RDJ as an actor), it's fascinating to realize that Mom wouldn't have regarded it as being "as real" as the Marvel comic books. Similarly, Mom would be unfazed by the dumpster fire the DCEU has become -- and as for "Riverdale", the less said the better...

One of my favorite Star Trek moments is when Kirk and crew had to steal the Enterprise James Horner's music and just the effects alone was one of my favorite moments. And of course the destruction of the Enterprise was shocking and awesome at the same time. Love your content you just got to subscriber out of me

I had your t-shirt as a poster, several decades ago. Great vid!

Yep. You and I could have some great conversations about a great number of topics. Your style of presentation closely matches my own. I love this. Star Trek V was supposed to continue the WOK story arch, but we all know how that turned out. With all due respect to Mr. Shatner, Star Trek V isn't as bad as I remember it. It's actually not a bad action-comedy set in a possible future. 'The probe' in STIV was very V'gery, but it was really interesting, and then they didn't do anything with it. The vessel was supposed to be commanded by a crew of aquatic life which can communicate with aquatic life on other planets. I know it's far-fetched. But they team-up with the Romulans in her book "Probe" written by Margaret Wander Bonanno. The probe leaves Earth after making contact with whales, and sets course for the next planet of 'intelligent' life, in The Beta Quadrant, on Romulus. Well done, Steve Shives. Coffee is on me next time you're in Denver.

I randomly ended up with a copy of debt of honor the graphic novel by dc that took place after IV. I liked how it explored kirks guilt over being an absent father and the loss of David. The nod to Dr. Gillian Taylor trying to find her way in the 22nd century was cool too. Only mirror universe stuff I liked was the tng novel by Diane Duane I felt it was a much more solid exploration of the theme.

I really like issue 34 from 1992 where Kirk enters a kind of fantasy land and finds that his son, David, is one of his officers, fighting the (pre-Star Trek VI) Klingons. It seems so much more 'Kirk' than what we saw in Star Trek Generations.

Really great content. I love your posts. I didn't even know about the comics, Thanks. Peace.

Love the fact that DC began their Star Trek comics with stories set between ST2 and ST 3... two films that fit together seamlessly with no gap between them. Gotta love a comic book that publishes stories that fit into gaps that don't exist.

In the early 90s there was an anthology Trek comic called "Star Trek Special." The first issue has a story called "The Needs of the One," by Michael Collins. It follows the crew on Vulcan, as well as Spock coming back to himself and reliving parts of his past (his pet sehlat, his experiences with T'Pring, the events of Amok Time, etc) while his consciousness rebuilds itself. This was always my personal canon for what happened between movies.

You are a great storyteller! I enjoyed listening to your synopsis :)

I remember in the very early 90s having to go on a family road trip for a reunion several states away. I was an only child & we were traveling with my grandparents, so I was expecting a long, boring ride. We first stopped at a truck stop & dad said I could grab a book or magazine. At about 12 yrs old, I had a love for Star Wars, but this was the "wilderness years" with very few merchandise available. I had a lesser interest in Trek, so I was kinda pleased to see some Trek comics on the shelf. The artwork was pretty good & the story took place in between ST:V & ST:VI. It had to do with another mission with Gary Seven & it read like an episode of the old series, but contemporary on the Enterprise-A (my fav!). It made the trip a lot less boring & I'm still appreciate of it.

Impressive! Give that Star Trek D.C. Comics writer/editor who resolved the `inconsistencies' a Pulitzer !!

I'm very jealous of his DS9. But I want a DS9 model so big it can have a Galaxy-Class dock at the spires.

@MikkelKjrJensen

Жыл бұрын

How big does the Galaxy-Class have to be?

Wow you did a fantastic job on this!

Fantastic video Steve. I read a lot of those comics back in the day and got a kick out of clever way they reset the board to movie continuity. I also loved how the comics never caught up to Star Trek VI, except of course for the adaptation of "Ashes of Eden".

What?! Feels from a Steve Shives video. Great stuff.

I enjoyed the Star Trek DC comics as a kid. I particularly liked the Mirror Universe issues at the beginning of the series. I also remember a particularly touching story about a romance that lasted decades, involving the Federation's best engineer, Scotty.

Thanks for that review. I haven't read those ST comics since they came out so have forgotten all that stuff. Also remember in the movieverse there were many years between ST V and ST VI. Lots of room for comic stories.

definitely enjoyed this video. well-done.

aww- Steve- i want to hug all the viewers and you for that ending. You are the best!

I absolutely adored this video, I would love to see you summarise some more star trek comics 🔥✨

It's funny, when you were announcing the next topic, I couldn't figure out where you were talking about, despite having thought "Jeez, _again?_ " when you mentioned it during the main video!

You really can't appreciate "Point Break" until you hear it in the original Romulan.

Thanks for this video! I own a couple of issues from the mid-80’s (the hilarious Grond vs. Ajir conflict). I had no context for them, so when I opened to the first page and saw the old faces on the Excelsior, I immediately thought “WHAT?!?!”

Really great episode, Steve. A nice refreshing detour from droning on about DS9 hah!

Ah, the Mirror Universe. I thought you were going to be talking about Riza, the Sandals of the Federation.

Well done. I enjoyed this.

IDW's "Star Trek Year Five" (2019) is pretty good for a Star Trek comic. Recommended if you're looking to try one out.

I love your articulation of the medium between comics and reality. Bravo!

And we THANK her for teaching you, Steve! 'Heard from your daughter lately?' That's 15 yards for clipping. And loss-of-down. And, in all seriousness - all I want for my next birthday is Scotty's rad armor.

Thank you so much - I grew up with these comics in between the movies and LOVED them. They were my fix in between films.

As Mr. Raised Eyebrow himself would say, "Fascinating." Len Wien ingenuity is needed now more than ever before.

Very well done!

First time watcher, nice video. Just subscribed. Thx

Oh, I remember reading these and loving them!

Your Point Break head cannon got me to subscribe, all by itself.

I still live for the possibility I can enter the dimension where Kirstie Allie took the job on VI that was turned into Lt. Valeris. Kim Cattrall did amazing, but the emotional resonance of Saavik being the traitor to the Federation and more so to Spock would’ve been E P I C. And idky but that last part “our heroes, can live forever” really got me misty, true feels on that one.

I used to have those comics back in the day. Great video

Great video!

Hi Steve, Kirk and Co had stayed on Vulcan to allow time for Spock following the refusion beween he and McCoy, his mind was a blank and "Bones" had all his marbles so Spock needed the time to get his entire memory and knowledge back

Was pleasantly entertained by this video, Steve. 👍

Great video

So awesome, thanks for the great book report on these comics, next time I go to my local comics store , I'm going to try and hunt these down!

Very sneaky writing at the end there, kudos!

Fyi. I have not been notified of any of your videos in a very long time.

Excellent video on the golden era of Trek comics! Maybe another video delving into that second DC run from 1989-1996?

The Mirror Universe Saga is one of my favorite Trek comics storylines. I read it in back issue form after getting issue #9 new. The trouble was, I had no idea how many parts the story was, so after tracking down each new issue of the story, I'd discover that it continued into yet ANOTHER new issue! (Eight issue storylines were practically unheard of in the 1980s.) I eventually got them all and was able to read the entire story, but it took me a while.

I have to say, I found this very interesting, and I wasn't aware of the comic, or these events, so to learn about it, after all these years, was great! I often wondered whatever happened to Dr. Marcus, and Regula; what she went on to do without her project, or her son? Kirk didn't really hook up with the lady whale biologist from IV, longterm, bit he didn't seem to be with Carol, either. It did seem weird he wad put in charge of the Excelsior, but was still an Admiral. Some interesting events!

Original script had STAR TREK 3 villans being Romulans but was changed to the Klingons which they didnt even change the Romulan Bird of Prey. There were script leak's and Director Nimoy made change's explaining he felt the klingons made better cinematic bad guys.

Thank you! I loved this and I want to read the comics!

Powerful brother. I fux with you so majorily....this was well done.