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What about the Masonic Lodge?

Why don't Lutherans (or most Christian denominations) allow their members to hold membership in the Masonic Lodge? Find out in this episode of "Ask The Pastor." Don't forget to like, share, and subscribe to ATP so that you never miss a answer. And of course, you can email your question(s) to pastor at atpholycross@gmail.com

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  • @user-ly8jb5er1x
    @user-ly8jb5er1x11 ай бұрын

    You've done an excellent Job of selling Freemasonry to all. Thank You.

  • @TheRealist2022
    @TheRealist2022 Жыл бұрын

    What is so hard about understanding that Great Architect of the Universe is a generic term that can be applied to a deity of anyone's belief?

  • @teecee1567
    @teecee15672 жыл бұрын

    Hey there Padre. Sorry, but you are wrong about us. God bless anyway!

  • @jaderogue129
    @jaderogue129 Жыл бұрын

    Welp, now I wanna be a Mason! Thanks for the knowledge padre!

  • @blakegreen2196
    @blakegreen21963 жыл бұрын

    Let me ask you then, sir. Is one of your most famous pastors in all of Christianity the one and only person who speaks for the entire religion? Would you say that the pastor who wrote the most books and preached the most about your faith be the only one everyone should judge the religion on? There are many different options of Christianity and many divisions. It would be unwise for us to judge you and your beliefs solely on one man's opinion. Likewise, its very unwise for you to judge the same.

  • @AskThePastor

    @AskThePastor

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm not judging Freemasonry based on one man's opinion. I'm not sure whether you're not paying attention or whether you're just uneducated but Freemasonry and true Christianity are incompatible because Freemasonry is syncretistic. This is not my opinion or one man's opinion this is the opinion of many who have come out of that organization and have thoroughly studied it. You are welcome to disagree. But this is not the opinion of one man.

  • @AdamtheFreemason

    @AdamtheFreemason

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AskThePastor Freemasonry is NOT "syncretistic", because the discussion of RELIGION is forbidden in a Masonic lodge, hence no " amalgamation" or " attempted amalgamation", can ever be met.

  • @AskThePastor

    @AskThePastor

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AdamtheFreemason But they're offering prayers to the Grand Architect. Who is that? Which God is it? Prayers are offered to a God, and all men can think whatever God they want is being invoked. That is the definition of syncretism.

  • @AdamtheFreemason

    @AdamtheFreemason

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AskThePastor The title the GREAT Architect of the Universe (as He is called in the First Degree) or the GRAND Geomatrician of the Universe (as He is called in the second Degree), is a UNIVERSAL title given to God, so brothers of all religions can worship their "god" without it causing disharmony. So you still believe that "syncretism", HOW SO, by calling God the "Great Architect", we are NOT naming or designating the "god", so a Hindu Mason, a Muslim Mason and a Christian Mason, define WHO the "Great Architect" is "IN THEIR MIND", it is NEVER identified out loud. I may have a Muslim brother, but I DO NOT agree on his religious doctrine, this is how Freemasonry has flourished for so long, because the discussion of "religion" and "politics" is FORBIDDEN in a Masonic lodge. Nothing's worse than having two brothers squabbling about "My gods better than your god...", that is why it is forbidden, and the three principles of: Brotherly Love, Relief and Truth, are applied. I don't even know the specific Christian denominations of my own brothers (apart from one who proposed me to Freemasonry, he's a Church of England, Christian, like me).

  • @AskThePastor

    @AskThePastor

    3 жыл бұрын

    That is the definition of syncretistism. Ignore falsehood and idols by making up a new name for everyone to pray to.

  • @TheRealist2022
    @TheRealist20223 жыл бұрын

    Happy Easter, Padre!

  • @darkijah-andersjehovahsn7893
    @darkijah-andersjehovahsn78933 жыл бұрын

    LOL and here in Denmark Churches are filled with Freemason Pastors. An article from 2003, says every 13 priest, and that number is most likely not less. Although I'm not a member of the Danish State Church as it is promoting Paganism, like every single tradition nearly found in the Luthereans are from Rome or Paganism. You know there are festivals found in the Law of Moses, but that is Judaizing.... OR whatever... Says the Romanizers. Anyway was looking for one single Lutherean who stood on the Biblical, Historical, Prophetical Antichrist. Seems I at least found one.

  • @mugwump242

    @mugwump242

    2 жыл бұрын

    I've heard from what I consider to be reliable sources, there are lots of pastors (including ultra-Conservative, Evangelicals) in the Freemasonry brotherhood in the USA too. Sadly, the pastor making this video has been led to believe quite a lot of falsehoods about the Masonic fraternity -- some being passed around for centuries now, repeated almost verbatim. Further, he sets out to perpetuate the myths instead of investigating for himself without preconceived bias.

  • @darkijah-andersjehovahsn7893

    @darkijah-andersjehovahsn7893

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mugwump242 I've found out my Country men in Norway is infiltrated as well, seems the number is the same or a little bigger confirmed members... Everything is just rotten everywhere. Satanist everywhere. Freemasonry is Roman Catholicism for "protestants"

  • @darkijah-andersjehovahsn7893

    @darkijah-andersjehovahsn7893

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mugwump242 I can't remember what he says about it, so... Can't answer that. But overall Freemasonry is of the Devil, the end.

  • @brandonjohnson9257
    @brandonjohnson92573 жыл бұрын

    I'll pray for you Pastor. Please pray for me also. I know you have good intentions, you just have the wrong information

  • @blakegreen2196

    @blakegreen2196

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agreed

  • @ugonwafor473

    @ugonwafor473

    3 жыл бұрын

    I love you bro, I pray he really takes his time to understand this subject. He will be of great help to the world with right information.

  • @TheRealist2022

    @TheRealist2022

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Biblisk Kristendom If your post is allied to anything the "Pastor" has said in the video, then you are 1 million percent wrong. I and all Brethren I know, have not done anything wicked....in fact it is quite the reverse. I'll give you an example. The local kids playground, run by our local council was closed because some of the equipment was deemed to be needing repair and therefore not safe. The council did not feature the repairs in it's budget forecast meaning it would be closed for at least 6 months. With the Councils permission, several Masons and myself, used our funding and personal expertise to refurbish the playground. We got a Council health and safety officer to certify it as safe and now small kids can play in it safely and have fun! We didn't HAVE to do it... nobody ASKED us to do it.. but morally, it was the right thing to do. Does that sound wicked to you?

  • @jeffhein7275

    @jeffhein7275

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheRealist2022 So some "good works" will save you? Have you kept the 10 Commandments perfectly? That's God's standard. "And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment" (Hebrews 9:27) For the Christian though, we know "For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast." (Ephesians 2:8-9) and "For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit" (1 Peter 3:18)

  • @TheRealist2022

    @TheRealist2022

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jeffhein7275 No. There is no promise of salvation in Freemasonry. This alone proves it is not a religion. We do not do good works to earn a few cheap points to het us in to Heaven. We do them simply because they are the right thing to do. We do these things with no expectation of reward or favour... but because we are good people. wanting the best for others. How sad it must be to have so much hatred in your heart to not be able to accept that there are simply good people wanting to good for others... just because it is the right anything to do and not like you, for the hope of a reward of a place in Heaven. No. I have not kept the 10 commandments because I am Christian. I am NOT Christian and ALTHOUGH I HAVE A BELIEF THAT THERE IS SOME SORT OF SUPREME BEING RESPPONSIBLE FOR THE CREATION OF EVERYTHING, I have NO religion, because I believe religion was created for the control of the gullible. I live my life relying on my, moral compass and so far so good! I've been with my wife for over 35 years, my kids have grown up well adjusted and both have good jobs and good families. I have a wide range of friends, both religious and non-religious. I don't need some self-proclaimed "Pastor" (Pastor!?....the religious equivalent of "Assistant Stage Manager"!)telling me how to live my life. How on Earth does he think he knows me better than me? Talking to you, simply enforces that feeling. The whole thing is a bloody big con and gullible pillocks like you are falling for it. Don't bother answering, there's nothing you can possibly say that I would be interested in.

  • @francesbrisco776
    @francesbrisco7763 жыл бұрын

    JOHN TODD SPOKE ABOUT THIS Kuinka Illuminates Toimil

  • @trevorwright2
    @trevorwright23 жыл бұрын

    And*

  • @milesbennetdyson5
    @milesbennetdyson53 жыл бұрын

    I'm a Mason and I'm also a believer in Christ. I will not let a religion or a church tell me what to do. I'm thankful that Jesus allowed me to live the life I have.

  • @TheRealist2022

    @TheRealist2022

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Nick Pitts Well said, Brother. Fraternal greetings from England.

  • @teecee1567

    @teecee1567

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Mr Nobody You have misinterpreted that passage. Read it again... but this time, without prejudice!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @TheRealist2022

    @TheRealist2022

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Mr Nobody Royal Order of Jesters? Is that a thing? If it is, it's a far cry from Freemasonry. Baphomet doesn't exist and as such the kissing of it's behind. The moral philosophy....yeah? So? What's wrong with that? That video was filmed in a Lodge room.. THAT WAS RENTED OUT FOR THE EVENING. THE INTENT WAS NOM KNOWN AT THE TIME. YOU'LL NOTICE NOBODY HAS ANY REGALIA ON. PROVING IT IS NOT A MASONIC MEETING. No, it does not sound like Christianity. It's not SUPPOSED TO. WE ARE NOT A RELIGIOUS ORGANISATION. God, you're dumb.

  • @brandonjohnson9257
    @brandonjohnson92573 жыл бұрын

    Know it all

  • @lancecarter100
    @lancecarter1003 жыл бұрын

    Book of John. God is Spirit.

  • @scorpio622
    @scorpio6222 жыл бұрын

    Hey, thanks for enlightening me. I will no longer strive to be moral and put forth the great effort that it takes. I just accepted Jesus as my savior and my work is now done. Man that was easy. Thanks again!

  • @AskThePastor

    @AskThePastor

    2 жыл бұрын

    The work of your salvation is complete, yes. Your work if gratitude and love for that free salvation has just begun. kzread.info/dash/bejne/lIV1x7Z-f8fYqrQ.html

  • @Popular_Novel

    @Popular_Novel

    2 жыл бұрын

    I read this as very much a snarky jab. If it is, very well done 👏 😂

  • @teecee1567

    @teecee1567

    2 жыл бұрын

    @scorpio622 LOL... there's slightly more to it than that. You accept Jesus in to your life by BEING moral and trying to be as good an example of a man as you can be. Your version is like trying to give up sugar in your coffee by putting lots of sugar in your coffee!!! LOL!!

  • @Popular_Novel

    @Popular_Novel

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm amazed that people don't realize this is pure sarcasm. LOL!

  • @TheRealist2022
    @TheRealist20223 жыл бұрын

    What's the difference between a Pastor and a Priest?

  • @AskThePastor

    @AskThePastor

    3 жыл бұрын

    Depends on what the priest is doing. Roman Catholic priests are called that because they offer the unbloody sacrifice of Christ in the Mass. Pastor means shepherd.

  • @TheRealist2022

    @TheRealist2022

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AskThePastor So, that would be you?

  • @AskThePastor

    @AskThePastor

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheRealist2022 Reread the name of this channel.

  • @TheRealist2022

    @TheRealist2022

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AskThePastor Sarcasm. Nice character flaw. Reread the question and then apply the lack of information your answer gave. Don't bother to answer. It's no wonder people are turning away from the church in droves. Your view of Freemasonry, even when in conversation with Masons here, setting you right where you are wrong, is bordering on bigotry and crassness. Your closed mind does you no favours and I pity your "flock". All you will do is to sew a fresh field of bigotry and ignorance among them. Bigotry begets bigotry. There'll no shortage of that with you around.

  • @AskThePastor

    @AskThePastor

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheRealist2022 Wow you're judgmental! So I get my information from books written BY freemasons AND from former Master Masons who left the organization, and I'm the bigot? Take your psychological projection somewhere else.

  • @TheRealist2022
    @TheRealist20223 жыл бұрын

    Good afternoon Pastor, I hope this finds you and your flock as well as can be expected in these unpredictable times! Have you heard of Geoffrey Fisher? He was the Archbishop of Canterbury, the head honcho of the Church of England. He carried out the coronation of Her Majesty the Queen of England....and he was a Mason. What are your thoughts on that? He obviously did not find anything incompatible with his Christian faith.

  • @AskThePastor

    @AskThePastor

    3 жыл бұрын

    I know many who confess to be Christians find nothing incompatible with transgenderism, homosexuality, abortion, communism, etc.

  • @TheRealist2022

    @TheRealist2022

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AskThePastor Hi Pastor and thanks for the response. I think a man in the lofty position of A of C can't just "confess" to being Christian. You don't get much more Christian than him, do you? So surely, if an uber-Christian like Geoffrey considers Freemasonry to be fine, then his thoughts should be at least considered to have some merit? May I ask, what denomination you are? Obviously you are Christian, but what name does your church have? Also, who is the head of the church of which you are a member? Does he/she set doctrine? I'd like to run a scenario by you, if that's ok. If the head of your Church woke up one morning and said he now considered, say, homosexuality, to be no longer a sin. How would you react? I know it's never going to happen in a month of Sundays... but let's just imagine it did.

  • @AskThePastor

    @AskThePastor

    3 жыл бұрын

    1. A Christian's private beliefs have no merit when those beliefs contradict the Scriptures. 2. I'm Lutheran. The Scriptures are the sole source and norm for our doctrine. We confess this publicly in the Lutheran Confessions. 3. If your scenario occured, he would shown his error from Scripture. If he repented, all is well. If he is impenitent, he is removed from his leadership position for teaching contrary to the Scripture.

  • @TheRealist2022

    @TheRealist2022

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AskThePastor I really appreciate your a answering these questions, thanks a million. 1. So in your opinion, Dr. Geoffrey Fisher, The Archbishop of Canterbury, had no business being so, while he was a Mason. It's very obvious that he took his masonic membership seriously. You would have thought that if he considered his membership to be contrary to his Christian faith, he'd have left one or the other. And he was a Mason till death... so he must have been comfortable with it. 2. Lutheran. I have to admit, I have limited knowledge of the Lutheran faith, so will do some studying. 3. This is, of course, extremely unlikely and is of course hypothetical. But who would have the authority to tell the head of the Lutheran Church (I guess it would be (Musa Panti Filibus?) that he was wrong? surely, e would know scripture better than anyone and would have considered the question at length before disseminating his decision to the faithful. And even to remove him from his position? Surely, once he had made a decision....it would be a decision. And then all the rest of the church must follow suit. There is a similar scenario in the Catholic Church. At one time, it was a mortal sin to eat meat on a Friday. Now it's just GOOD Friday. I don't recall anyone trying to remove His Holiness from his position. Padre, have you ever sat down with a Freemason to discuss this subject and the rejection of it by your faith? Also, may I ask where you get your information on Freemasonry? I really do wish I was in your neighbourhood to discuss it over a beer.

  • @cletust.darrell8363

    @cletust.darrell8363

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheRealist2022 being in a position of power in the church has arguably nothing to do with your relationship with Jesus. High ranking people (such as popes) are involved with pedophilia....

  • @BirdDogey1
    @BirdDogey13 жыл бұрын

    Sounds just like any Mayor's Prayer Breakfast just fill in the city.

  • @lc-mschristian5717
    @lc-mschristian57173 жыл бұрын

    Thank you.

  • @brandonjohnson9257
    @brandonjohnson92573 жыл бұрын

    First of all Mr. Pastor no it all. You don't have a clue what you are talking about. Secondly, some pastors are free and accepted Masons. Masonry is charity, and it is a brotherhood that makes good men better. Not saying that God's word can't do the same thing. I'm just letting you know what's what. Please don't judge if you don't know.

  • @AskThePastor

    @AskThePastor

    3 жыл бұрын

    I stand by everything I have said, as it has been confirmed by master masons who have left freemasonry for the Christian faith and the writings of masons themselves. I'm sorry you know so little about what you're wanting to defend.

  • @brandonjohnson9257

    @brandonjohnson9257

    3 жыл бұрын

    Pastor in your dreams!

  • @AskThePastor

    @AskThePastor

    3 жыл бұрын

    So I read books written by masons and talk to former master masons who habe left freemasonry and your response is "Nu-uh." Your ability to reasonably discuss is phenomenal. 🤔🤦‍♂️

  • @AdamtheFreemason

    @AdamtheFreemason

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AskThePastor Not ALL books by former Freemasons are legit. Take Rev James Drayton Shaw, in his book, "The Deadly Deception: Freemasonry exposed", On the cover of the book, Shaw makes FOUR claims 1) He was a 33rd degree Mason. 2) He was a Knight Commander of the court of Honor. 3) He was a PAST Worshipful Master of a Blue Lodge. 4) He was a PAST Master of ALL Scottish Rite bodies. 33rd degree Masons, ART DE HOYOS, and S. BRENT MORRIS, research his claims and found numerous discrepancies in his claims: SHAW'S FIRST CLAIM. The full title of the book is The Deadly Deception: Freemasonry Exposed by One of Its Top Leaders. It is laughable to suggest that Rev. Shaw was ever a "top leader" of Freemasonry. He served the Craft decently during his membership and received recognition for his work, but he never attained any position of prominence. Rev. Shaw's co-author, Tom C. McKenney, however, was apparently embarrassed at this claim. SHAW'S SECOND CLAIM. The cover claims Rev. Shaw was "Past Worshipful Master, blue lodge." To be elected and to serve as Master of a lodge is a great privilege and honor for any Mason. By identifying himself as a Past Master, Rev. Shaw seeks to establish himself as one who has achieved Masonic recognition through hard work. As with so many of his statements about Masonry, the factual record establishes something quite different. Rev. Shaw received the First Degree in Masonry on September 11, 1945, in Evergreen Lodge No. 713 in Indianapolis, Indiana. The Second and Third Degrees were conferred by courtesy in Biscayne Bay Lodge No. 124, Miami, Florida on May 21 and July 23, 1946. He transferred his membership to Allapattah Lodge No. 271 in Florida on July 1, 1952, and remained a member until his resignation on October 25, 1966. He never held office in any Masonic lodge or affiliated body in Indiana.(83) In 1964 he was appointed Junior Steward of Allapattah Lodge, in 1965 he was appointed Junior Deacon, and on October 25, 1966, he resigned from Masonry. The names of the principal elected officers of every Florida lodge, the Master and Senior and Junior Wardens, are published annually in the Proceedings of the Most Worshipful Grand Lodge F.&A.M. of Florida. These Proceedings can be inspected in any of the 300+ Florida lodges. The name of James Dayton Shaw never appeared in the list of elected lodge officers. He was never elected an officer in Allapattah Lodge, much less Master of the lodge. A LIE SHAW'S FOURTH CLAIM. Rev. Shaw was indeed invested with the rank and decoration of a Knight Commander of the Court of Honor on December 18, 1965. The award was honorably earned and is properly claimed on the cover of his book. THE TRUTH SHAW'S FIFTH CLAIM. The 33� is an important honor in the Scottish Rite Although Rev. Shaw served decently in the few positions he held while an active Mason, he was relatively unknown outside of his local circle, and did nothing which would have warranted his reception of an Honorary Thirty-third Degree. All Masons elected to the 33� have their names published in the Transactions of the Supreme Council. These volumes are easily available for inspection in any Scottish Rite body in the Southern Jurisdiction. The name of James Dayton Shaw was never listed as the recipient of the 33�, despite his claims to the contrary. YET ANOTHER LIE SHAW'S SIXTH CLAIM. The upper right-hand corner of the book's cover has a bright red, eye-catching band with this come-on, "The 33rd Degree initiation ceremony revealed for the first time in history!" Rev. Shaw takes almost seven pages in the book to describe the events leading up to his so-called receipt of the 33�. The ceremony he describes is not based on his personal experience, but was rather been plagiarized from another source. The source Rev. Shaw selected was an expos� of the Cerneau 33� ritual in Jonathan Blanchard's Scotch Rite Masonry Illustrated, which has been in print since 1888. It helped Rev. Shaw in his deception that such sources are easy to come by. A casual search shows that authors have "revealed" versions of the Thirty-Third Degree initiation ceremony repeatedly since at least 1813. A na�ve anti-Mason might be forgiven for not knowing that the Thirty-Third Degree has been "exposed" for the better part of two centuries. Rev. Shaw, however, obviously knew about at least one such "exposure" because he lied about receiving the degree. Not only did Rev. Shaw lie about receiving the Thirty-Third Degree himself, he did not have the intellectual integrity to cite the source he pilfered for his so-called description. THE FOURTH LIE ON THE COVER www.themasonictrowel.com/books/is_it_true_what_they_say_freemasonry_by_Art_De_Hoyos/chapter_5/the_reverend_james_dayton_shaw.htm

  • @AdamtheFreemason

    @AdamtheFreemason

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AskThePastor And this is from a REVEREND, I think he need to go read his Holy Bible: Proverbs 12:17 “He that speaketh truth sheweth forth righteousness: but a false witness deceit.”

  • @trevorwright2
    @trevorwright23 жыл бұрын

    Blue lodge is not a religion that's the first thing you learn. Does have rituals,prayers, fellowship so I guess seems like that.... Hello pastor I went to Lutheran school growing up. Lol. Then became Antiochion Orthodox.

  • @TheRealist2022

    @TheRealist2022

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@patrickmcneil76 LOL.. we have Catholics in Freemasonry. The ones that can think for themselves and that let reason, logic and the balance of probability aid them in their decision making. Blind faith can be abused.

  • @TheRealist2022

    @TheRealist2022

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@patrickmcneil76 If you come from generations of Masons, you must consider them all to be evil and anti-Christ. How lucky they are to have a relative like you... NOT! Your assertion that if you are not FOR Christ, you are against him, is wrong. I am a Freemason and am a rare beast..I do not belong to a particular religion, meaning I am neither for nor against him. It is MY assertion that we know nothing of what created us and to say we do is arrogance in the extreme. Thank you for proving my point.

  • @TheRealist2022

    @TheRealist2022

    3 жыл бұрын

    @joel ellie Matthew Ch7 v1-3

  • @TheRealist2022
    @TheRealist20223 жыл бұрын

    I wish I could have a 1 to 1 with this guy. I'd be able to prove he has it so so so wrong.

  • @raymondsaint4156

    @raymondsaint4156

    3 жыл бұрын

    Care to expand on that?

  • @TheRealist2022

    @TheRealist2022

    3 жыл бұрын

    ​@@raymondsaint4156 Good afternoon, Raymond. Sure, I'd be delighted. I'll watch the video again and call pout every point on which he is incorrect and note them down here. *sits comfortably.. coffee at the ready and here we go*. @26 seconds. He says we are a religion. We are not. Why not? We have no deity of our own, we have no sacraments, we have no promise of salvation, we do not teach anything about god, we have no clergy and we have no dogma. @48 seconds. He says "the god of Freemasonry is not the triune god". We do not have our own god...showing a clear lack of understanding of what he is talking about. @55 seconds. He says "The god of Freemasonry is always referred to as the Great Architect of the Universe". Wrong. As previously mentioned, we do not have a god... that phrase is used so that men of all faiths can use it...while referring to their OWN god. For example, if a Christian Mason uses that phrase, HE is thinking of God (capital G!), when the Muslim Mason says it, HE is thinking about Allah, when the Jewish Mason says it, HE is thinking of Yahweh and when the Hindu Mason says it, HE is thinking about Brahma. Each of these Masons believes that HIS deity is the real one and that all others are false. BUT, they do not use that difference to create division and discord. We simply agree to disagree. The Christian KNOWS that God is the creator of all things.... and does not agree with the Muslim who KNOWS that Allah is the creator of all things... who does not agree with the Jewish Mason who KNOWS that Yahweh is.. and so on. We do not let religious differences cause and division. @1:15 He says that in the Masonic Lodge, all religions are considered equal. Wrong. Each man (as I said in te point above) considers HIS religion be the true one and that is kept to himself. No regard is made to any religion, as any consideration of religion is irrelevant. Why? Because, as stated before, we are not a religion, nor do we have any religious affiliations or allegiances. Do you consider your religion when deciding whether to buy eggs or not when grocery shopping? Of course you don't... because buying eggs is about as relevant to religion as Freemasonry is. @1:37-1:54 He says we must have our members believing in a god and it doesn't matter which one because we consider all religions to be equal. Again, untrue. It is irrelevant which god a Mason believes in because the ONLY reason a belief is required, is to make an obligation a man takes all the more serious and solemn... it is done in the presence of that man's own god...not for the purposes of religious worship. Religious worship takes different forms, depending on what religion it is, so a definite god would need to be indentified as such.. but as this is not for worship, we leave the choice of what a man believes, up to him. Under two minutes in and already I have identified 5 fundamental inaccuracies. To continue... @1:50 "The Lodge views itself as being above all other religions". Ludicrous in the extreme. @2:00 He says that we consider that "Freemasonry is the fountain from which all the other religions have flowed and all those other religions were just corrupted". Nowhere...ANYWHERE is that stated, written, hinted at, suggested, considered or even MENTIONED. Absolutely laughable. @2:37 The writings he quotes from Albert Pike, more or less underpin what I have said previously. In short, it is not for us to DICTATE to all, that a particular belief is THE RIGHT ONE. We must believe what we believe and leave that choice of religion and faith to others, respecting their beliefs and opinions. It would be massively impertinent for anyone, to tell someone else that they are wrong, that they are at fault... while they themselves are correct. Yes, hold that belief... but hold it inside. THAT is the stuff that causes wars, famine, hunger, death and horror. THAT is why religion and politics are private things... and are NEVER allowed to be discussed at a Masonic meeting. 3:18-3:20 "To do either is beyond our jurisdiction". @5:19 HOORAYY!!!!! I'VE FOUND A BIT HE IS RIGHT ABOUT! "The lodge does not teach a man is inherently sinful from birth". Know why? We do not take part in religious teaching. Know why? WE ARE NOT A RELIGIOUS ORGANISATIONNNNN. Andddd on that note of positivity.... I'm getting bored with this. I think I have noted quite enough inaccuracy here, to prove that this man does not have the first what he is talking about. Altogether, I have listed 8 places where he is talking nonsense . As far as I can see, the inaccuracies he is coming out with, are based on the fact that he considers Freemasonry to be a religion. As stated earlier, it is not and I have backed that up with WHY it is not a religion. He is DANGEROUS. Why is he dangerous? He is in a position of power, but more importantly, a position of TRUST. He lacks one very, very important ability. The ability to say "I don't know". To say that, would be honest, but would undermine the confidence his parishioners have in him as their spiritual leader. I have come across COUNTLESS "Christians" (and it always seems to be Christians... not sure why) that NEVER EVER say "I don't know". NOBODY knows everything.....well...unless you call yourself "Pastor" and wear a dog collar. That is a chilling thought, isn't it? This man is, in short, telling lies. And the last time I looked, that was very much the same as "bearing false witness"..and.. isn't that one of the seven deadly sins? Ok, so I've expanded on my first comment as you asked me to. 2/3 of the way through the video and I've called him out on so much, I don't feel the need to go on.

  • @raymondsaint4156

    @raymondsaint4156

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheRealist2022 but you forget something very crucial: that freemasonry promotes monotheistic universalism which is contradictory to the exclusive Triune God. For instance, Islam, Judaism, Zoroastrianism and Sikhism all believe in a monotheistic god- but their gods are false so we cannot worship with them. Only Jesus Christ is God. There is only one valid religion. Monotheistic Universalism is a false belief. That is why Freemasonry is not compatible with any true form of Christianity.

  • @TheRealist2022

    @TheRealist2022

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@raymondsaint4156 You have missed the point completely. We require a belief in one deity.. that created the universe. The identity of that deity, is left to the individual. We do not preach, we do not tell anyone what to think. We have willing members of all the worlds faiths. They all agree to disagree on what form the deity takes. We believe that it is beyond the bounds of any individual to tell another what to think with regard to the creator of the universe. WHY do we require that belief? A Freemason is required to be a man of integrity. One way to validate a man's integrity, is to get him to swear to something before the highest authority there can possibly be... the creator of the universe and to keep that promise. We get him to swear to conceal the sign, grip and word of the Degree being worked before his own deity, so as to make that promise serious, solemn and binding. That is the only reason we require a belief in a deity. It is our belief that this extra level of solemnity and seriousness makes the promise that much more of a symbol of his integrity. This willingness to let others believe as they wish and not use that difference to cause division, has enabled me to meet and dine with Sunni and Shia, Protestant and and Catholic, Arab and Jew. Men who would normally be mortal enemies, meet as friends, Brothers and equals. Now that has GOT to be a good thing.....yes? You asked me to expand. I did so and took apart the Pastors words easily.

  • @raymondsaint4156

    @raymondsaint4156

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheRealist2022 that's exactly the issue though. The god of Islam is not equal to the God of Christianity. The Muslims are not my brothers. My brothers and sisters are through Christ and Christ only. I will not pray with a Muslim because his god is not real and is not the same as mine. (I would gladly pray FOR a Muslim though). Any organization or institution that requires you to deny or ignore the exclusivity of Christ and acklowedge other monotheistic faiths are equal to Christianity- is an institution I have to stay away from. And any Christian would too. Well maybe not those of the Methodist/Episcopal persuasion (example: the 'Christian' preacher who literally prayed to the false god Brahma in the seat of the US government just because he was a monotheistic god in some hindu sects) And about achieving unity with others faiths and bringing them together... Well I don't want any unity with anybody unless it means unity through Christ and Christ alone. I will not abandon one of the core beliefs of my faith which is that salvation is from only from Jesus. So as you can see this heresy that the true God can be found as long as it is a monotheistic God you worship is just a false doctrine unfortunately spread by the USA which was founded by Freemasons. I'm American btw.

  • @LuckyGodBilliken
    @LuckyGodBilliken4 жыл бұрын

    Masonic Charitable Foundation provide so many Social services around the world ... Freemasonry is a fraternity that encourages continual self improvement by association and contemplation with other men that have sworn to uphold a certain moral code . "We make Good men Better" , Δ . "Conspiracy Theory is the New Religion" Freemasonry is an Organisation of People who Believe in Brotherhood and Helping Others. . Δ .

  • @AskThePastor

    @AskThePastor

    4 жыл бұрын

    Watch the video

  • @scriptureexamined4664

    @scriptureexamined4664

    3 жыл бұрын

    Read "Morals and Dogma" by Albert Pike and you'll see that freemasonry is satanism...

  • @kinorynn

    @kinorynn

    2 ай бұрын

    Morals and Dogmas pg321 "Lucifer, the light bearer! Strange and mysterious name given to sprite of darkness. Lucifer the son of the morning star. Is it he who bares the light... doubt it not" As a LSCM Lutheran, I'll stand with the pastor. There is a reason the Lutherans and Catholics have been opposed to free masonry from the beginning.

  • @Ianjcarroll
    @Ianjcarroll2 жыл бұрын

    This guy has no idea what he is talking about.

  • @brasilianbounce
    @brasilianbounce2 жыл бұрын

    This man has good intent but poorly informed about Freemasonry and it's views.

  • @TheRealist2022

    @TheRealist2022

    Жыл бұрын

    He's proving himself to be as ignorant as his bosses and doesnh't have the atrength of character to say so.

  • @cieradavis4807
    @cieradavis48073 жыл бұрын

    @ Ask The Pastor , thank you for sharing this information.

  • @TheRealist2022

    @TheRealist2022

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Ceira Davis You might want to check the truth before congratulating this man on what he has said. Just because this man puts a black shirt on with a dog collar... doesn't mean you have to trust what he says about Freemasonry. Ever heard of "white coat syndrome"? Same deal.

  • @cieradavis4807

    @cieradavis4807

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheRealist2022 greetings , thank you for sharing your thoughts with me ! 😁

  • @TheRealist2022

    @TheRealist2022

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@cieradavis4807 You're very welcome. I hope that you take my words on board and think for yourself rather than let anyone tell you what's what. We are extremely open...it's just the conspiracy theorists that will tell you different. That being the case, if there's any questions you have regarding Freemasonry, please just ask. All I'd ask of you, is to take my answers and then apply logic, reason and the balance of probability, then decide for yourself if I speak the truth or not. I can't ask for anything more. Take care.

  • @mrclockman1950
    @mrclockman19502 жыл бұрын

    I don't think your interpretation is incorrect Albert Pike is not considered among masonic order. Masonry is based on Solomon's teachings . Christianity is debatable truth in all other religions especially Catholic

  • @TheRealist2022

    @TheRealist2022

    2 жыл бұрын

    @mrclockman1950 Freemasonry is NOT based on Solomon's teachings. It is a completely separate entity.

  • @mrclockman1950

    @mrclockman1950

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheRealist2022 yes it is from God to Soliman no it's not a religion it is spiritual faith in our supreme being given to us in his scripture as our rule and guide for our faith and practice. No atheist can ever be a mason because God gives us our ability to do charity. Have you ever built a hospital when no child's parents will have to pay. Do you teach dislex people at no cost. Think again what God has put us on this earth to do.our rewards come from our deeds not our chanting.

  • @teecee1567

    @teecee1567

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mrclockman1950 I'm sure that all Freemasons would laud Solomon's wisdom, but other than that, Solomon really has nothing to do with Freemasonry. It's really about a fictional tale of Hiram Abiff and his integrity, which cost him his life. Hiram was the principal architect of Solomon's temple. And, sorry my friend, God doesn't give us the ability to carry out charitable works. I know for a fact, of atheists who are fabulous people and so good and so charitable. for example, look at Rotarians. Half of them are atheists. I know that because I attend their fundraisers! The only reason we don't accept atheists, is because an atheist would not be able to take his obligation in the presence of a supreme being... because they don't believe in one. I happen to know that The Realist is a very experienced Mason. If he says something is so... it is so. He's not everyone's cup of tea....but he IS a very knowledgeable Mason.

  • @TheRealist2022

    @TheRealist2022

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mrclockman1950 Well, we did rebuild a kids playground that was due for demolition. We do run several soup kitchens in my city, that we man and pay for overnight and we do provide a listenng ear servidce to the elderly and vulnerable and we do provide electronics to helkp people communicate when in isolation.

  • @kinorynn

    @kinorynn

    2 ай бұрын

    Catholics are Christians and our fellow brothers in Christ. They do not debate the Trinity or the divinity of Christ.

  • @jeremiahjohnson9908
    @jeremiahjohnson99083 жыл бұрын

    1:47...there is only one God, he has many names and the Masons understand that...2:42-4:23...How you read what Pike said and came to the convoluted conclusion that Pike feels man is above God is baffling...5:44...you are mincing words, the lodge DOES teach that a man is inherently sinful from birth, hence the need for Masonry from the start...7:38...but this in no way admonishes us of the need to improve as we see in James 2 verses 21-24....in conclusion, you are off the mark.

  • @peterdavidbuglass4169
    @peterdavidbuglass41693 жыл бұрын

    The preacher is wrong. Freemasonry IS NOT a religion.

  • @jordantsak7683

    @jordantsak7683

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes it is. Religion means ''bond/connection'' on the basis of specific ideas. If you want the opposite of religion you have to look to christianity/the gospel, especially as described by us lutherans. Please, spend some time to listen to this brilliant lutheran pastor's videos and come with us to the lutheran church. Be our guest, be our brother, Peter ( = πέτρα = rock).

  • @teecee1567

    @teecee1567

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jordantsak7683 Sorry Jordan but you're incorrect. The literal meaning of the word "religion" (which comes from Old French and Anglo Norman circa1200 AD) is "respect for sense of right, moral obligation, sanctity, what is sacred, reverence for the gods. It is ultimately derived from the Latin word religiō".

  • @kinorynn

    @kinorynn

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@jordantsak7683amen brother.

  • @TheRealist2022
    @TheRealist2022Ай бұрын

    1:20 He makes the fundamental mistake that we all believe all religions are equal. This is NOT the case. I'll explain. If you have a Christian Mason and a Muslim Mason sitting in a Lodge room, the Christian Mason believes in God. The Muslim Mason believes in Allah. These are two different deities. The Christian Mason does not believe the "Allah" exists and that his Muslim Brother is mistaken. The Muslim Mason goes not believe that the Christian God exists and that his Christian Brother is mistaken. Freemasons tolerate the beliefs of others and do not let those differences cause any friction between them, unity and harmony being our goal. The "Pastor" in the film is completely INTOLERANT of the right for all to believe as they wish and I being British, understand that that flies in the face of the First Amendment. Pastors and other clergy are supposed to be learned men, so that they can guide their flock...this guy is far from that and is in fact a BIGOT.

  • @ScottWConvid19
    @ScottWConvid193 жыл бұрын

    Spoken from a credentialed executive officer of a US-26-501(c)(3) Not-For-Prophet corporation that honors the highest days of the Babylonian gods... daughters of Babylon ye are

  • @ScottWConvid19

    @ScottWConvid19

    3 жыл бұрын

    Came right out of the looks of the "Mother Church" about 500 years ago. Come out of her my people and be not partakers of her fornications, neither receive ye her plagues....

  • @charleysmith127
    @charleysmith1273 жыл бұрын

    Obviously drank the koolaid served at Seminary. As usual, people fear what they don't know or understand. Masonry is no different. It is not a religion. And religion is a bad thing, it depends on control and conformity. Faith is boundryless an works because of open minds and hearts. And Masons have faith. All profess a belief in the Supreme Being, and no athiest can be made a Mason. It's really very simple and not dark and ominouus as the unlearned propogate.

  • @jeffhein7275
    @jeffhein72753 жыл бұрын

    Wow - There sure are a LOT of masonic Karens posting here. Pastor - I think you hit a nerve. Methinks maybe they protesteth too much? 😉

  • @TheRealist2022

    @TheRealist2022

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Jeff H. If you were attacked, along with 6.5 million others, by someone spouting incorrect information, which painted YOU in a bad light... would you just sit back and take it? I doubt it. In Freemasonry, we promise to defend the character of our Brothers. In making these posts, I am doing just that. The real Karens here, are you and the "Pastor"

  • @jeffhein7275

    @jeffhein7275

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheRealist2022 Too bad you're not as zealous for the God of the Bible (the true God) as you are about the GAOTU (anything goes). Do you think egalitarian religion pains Him?

  • @TheRealist2022

    @TheRealist2022

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jeffhein7275 Too bad you're a religious bigot. And the GAOTU to a Christian Mason IS the god of the bible, half-wit. No.. that's a bit generous.. QUARTER wit. I love it when morons prove their lack of intelligence by their own words.

  • @alangilchrist3278
    @alangilchrist32784 жыл бұрын

    this guy cannot be more wrong it's not even funny. If I had a dollar for every time i saw false information from an ignoramus I would be a rich man lol.

  • @AskThePastor

    @AskThePastor

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hi Alan. You're welcome to interact with the video content. However, insults are not tolerated and if continued, you will be banned from commenting.

  • @alangilchrist3278

    @alangilchrist3278

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@AskThePastor lol ok

  • @thomastucker1649

    @thomastucker1649

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@AskThePastor This a laughable reply from a man using ad hominem attacks throughout his comments.

  • @HappyDaddySatan
    @HappyDaddySatan7 ай бұрын

    Wrong.