Studies have found intermittent fasting has a greater cause and effect relationship with binge eating than just eating your normal 3 balanced meals a day. Also please stop telling people they have to be an “ideal” body comp to have an enjoyable hiking experience or to be “a hiker.” Do you have legs to help you walk? Do you have a core and spine to keep you upright? Do you have arms and hands to balance? Great, have fun on your hike. Also how f cold are you gonna be on a mountain with sub 10% body fat?

I love how this interview is very much in line with the channel, which emphasis on body AND mind , and generally re-simplifying health. The same way you publish videos both on training and relaxing the body, the guest guides us on: - listen to your body (eat when you're hungry) - trust your body (on its billion years history of adaptation) - prepare the body without fear (supplement more without the too much)

@alvaroenparo

3 жыл бұрын

Eat before you are hungry , drink before you are thirsty. Otherwise you are compesating with your own body . A lot of people do not feel the need of drinking in winter or eat while they are hiking.

@xolo_music

Жыл бұрын

@@alvaroenparo then they are not listening to their body, which is literally written in the post you responded to. For drinking you may be right, but if you need energy in the form of calories, your body will usually give you very clear hints before you run out of it.

Really liked this content..... glad it was more about body intuition👍

very smart well conducted info

Great stuff. Thanks!

Great info! Nice interview !

I recommend watching GearSkeptics analysis of hiking nutrition.

Hmmm... It’s important for women to look at protein and fasting recommendations from science that is specific to women. The amounts of protein needed and when (the uptake timing) is incredibly different to men. Researcher Dr Stacy Sims has some great info.

Great video. Your next one should be "vegan/vegetarian recipes on the trail". Though, that might not get too many views. Maybe something for IG. 😅

@carmenrizzo9951

3 жыл бұрын

I would watch it! 🙋🏻‍♀️💚🌱

@xXAnthony619Xx

3 жыл бұрын

@@carmenrizzo9951 I just started messing around with TVP and it will definitely be a key component of my trips.

@ChaseMountains

3 жыл бұрын

you saw it already but here it is for everyone else kzread.info/dash/bejne/f5Vkp66TiK61hrw.html

@ChaseMountains

3 жыл бұрын

​@@xXAnthony619Xx yes TVP is the bomb, just posted a video with a recipe with TVP in it

Thank you for this video. As a long-distance hiker who has only recently added intermittent fasting to my lifestyle, I have been wondering how I might incorporate that into my daily hiking routine. This discussion was very helpful.

Mostly good information here. Liked that he debunked the myth that you should eat way more protein than you actually need. As he said, calories are energy so no matter what, if you take less energy in than you need, you are going to loose fat no matter what. There are no other factors that play into fat loss. If you dont loose weight, then you are not in a deficit, its pretty easy. Dont overcomplicate things. Hope you have a great day

@newvocabulary

3 жыл бұрын

He's a skinny manlet. Eat protein. Lots of it.

@swirlathon2k

2 жыл бұрын

I think his recommendation is still on the high end. If you eat enough food to maintain your weight then your probably getting enough protein.

@xolo_music

Жыл бұрын

If you start working out or doing sport, eating lots of protein will help you gain muscle mass, which will in the end burn more calories so you can lose fat faster. Still important to mention that. That is usually not the goal when you are out on a trip, though.

@bensosnowski1128

Жыл бұрын

@@xolo_music it takes months to put on muscle in any significant amount. And unless you are a body builder, your muscle mass won’t make an incredible difference in calories burned. The easiest and fastest way to lose weight is just to eat less

@xolo_music

Жыл бұрын

@@bensosnowski1128 That is simply not true and was disproven a lot by objective studys. I gained around 15kg of muscle when i started working our, over the course of four years. I can tell the difference when i do not eat enough protein over several day for many reasons: i start losing weight, i do not perform good, my appetite for "unhealthy" carbs like sugary stuff or white bread increases. When i now have an active day at work or when being outdoors or simply when i work out twice that day, i can burn about 500kcal to 2000kcal more on that day (depends on the activity, but i shit you not). Even on restdays there is a difference. If you really believe that you do not know anything about nutrition and / or you are not active enough to feel the difference. Protein supports a healthy lifestyle in many ways.

What a great trip! Looking forward to making some more

@max.lowery

3 жыл бұрын

@@Aelinda419 it really depends on how tough the walk is going to be, if it’s going to be challenging, with a fast pace and you are trying to travel light it would be beneficial to eat in the morning because you can carry less food. If it’s not a tough hike, a slow pace and you don’t need to keep up with anyone, make the call. Above all, listen to your body and do what feels right for you. Don’t be peer pressured by anyone else .👍

Great discussion! Another benefit of IF is less well known -- in the fasted state hormonal changes supporting important catabolic processes are in play. We are so accustomed to the anabolic POV that we forget that building up goes hand in hand with tearing down.

I am glad that someone out there recognizes the importance of protein and the results of not getting enough. So many long-distance hikers think calories are the only thing to worry about on the trail.

@senadapasic1732

2 жыл бұрын

Another commenter said he debunked that myth?

so useful!

Hey, really like your channel mate. Totally different to the thru hiker type channels. G'day from Oz.

@ChaseMountains

3 жыл бұрын

Gday champ, thanks! I appreciate that. Yeah I'm new to thru hiking. More of an all round mountain lover, cheers for stopping by!

I'd love to see some of your favorite vegetarian recipes for the trail!

@ChaseMountains

3 жыл бұрын

It's in the pipeline 👍

@ChaseMountains

3 жыл бұрын

here it is kzread.info/dash/bejne/f5Vkp66TiK61hrw.html

Really liked this video, have started learning about this eating pattern and have adopted it for a few days now.i have some concerns as someone who suffers from a crazy fast metabolism (have been the same weight all my adult life, can eat endlessly and I never change.) I’ve found the morning fasting fine but in the evenings I feel that I’m ravenous and wondering if I need to restructure meals to compensate? Or do I need to replace or add certain foods to counter my endless hunger? I’m pretty much naturally little to zero body fat and often worry when I’m hiking or climbing a lot if I’m just eating away my muscle mass. Any advice/tips or pointers towards good info is hugely welcome!

Quality video 👍

I started IF about half a year ago and it's been fantastic. I dropped fat, maintained muscle and managed to ramp up my training volume both for endurance and strength. I don't really like exercising during the fasting period but I've always done that in the afternoon anyway so it's not an issue. After about 5-6 weeks I stopped being hungry during the fast and just have a nice stable energy level.

Thanks

I've found that I'll snack out of boredom. That being said I've more or less eaten two meals a day most of my life. Like Max said I eat when I'm hungry and not just because its "time to eat". Like he said you have to listen to your body and be sure to understand the difference between real hunger "need to eat" and just wanting to eat. I've started to put on a bit of weight but more so moving into BMI for my size rather than exceeding BMI. Two meals a day is, in my opinion, a great way to maintain weight if not lose it depending upon activity level.

Are there any studies of biometrics and food intake of professional mountaineering guides out there? Sherpa guides come to mind.

I will be eating mainly greens protein powders and dried fruit nuts seeds and celery/courgette spinach. Carrot. Cheesy oatcakes. Plus multi vitamins. Powders for me are eazy to consume dry or pasted. Over a long period I have not tested yet! So who knows on that. Sweet potato is shamazing ha.

Hey! David here from Ireland. Im new to your channel. Great video. I'm hitting mont blanc in September

@ChaseMountains

2 жыл бұрын

Hey David from Ireland! Welcome to the channel, Good luck on Mont Blanc mate!

@ChaseMountains

2 жыл бұрын

Hey David from Ireland! Welcome to the channel, Good luck on Mont Blanc mate!

@davidm8354

2 жыл бұрын

Im a little nervous after watching this video. I've been doing non competitive weight lifting for 16/17 years. I'm not a big rounded steroid head but I'm roughly 13.5/14 stone of lean muscle. So I'm hoping my three separate 45min fast pace runs i do each week will help me high up on the mountain when weight becomes an issue along with getting oxygen into the muscle

Gotta know yourself, like how well your metabolism works.

with regards to protein, all diets end up with around 15-20% protein. doesn't matter if vegan, vegetarian or carnivore. it's just how protein is distributed in food. the issue is the amino acid balance. only meat has this in both the appropriate proportions but crucially it is bio-available. vegetables (carbs/fibre) block much of the nutrients in food including amino acids which is why vegans need to eat a large variety of vegetable types to get a reasonable amino acid profile but also a lot lot more food generally because of the lack of availability of them when digested. in short it's very difficult to get this right for non meat eaters.

Planning on hitting a long trail over the coming holidays and I'm pretty sure the nutrition is gonna be all over the place. I'm thinking a couple of protein bars and a multivitamin per day should be enough to maintain for a 10 day trip. I'm not "big" but I have significant amount of muscle and I don't wanna lose my gains..

@edrader

Жыл бұрын

anything you "lose" in 10 days can easily be regained

Good info! I went vegan over a year ago and sometimes struggle with food choices on the trail but I'm learning what works and doesn't. It definitely pays to understand proper nutrition and so far no issues, feeling healthy and strong! I appreciate the info in your vids. Keep them coming.

I don't have anyone to do hard hikes with, so I'm gaining weight to make the easy ones harder.

A multi-vitamin is a great idea!

I've seen a couple of girls trying to lose weight on a trail. They discarded the idea at day three after getting 85 sat and almost blackout.

Still waiting for that video on how to make lentils on the trail... 😉

@darthkek1953

3 жыл бұрын

You can buy precooked lentils, e.g. in the UK our best brand and it's a 2 minute warmup. www.merchant-gourmet.com/food-discoveries/ingredient/green-lentils/ Or you can sold-soak during the day and boil them up with over a campfire (curry powder for daal).

Very interesting topic clearly explained so thanks guys. As an intermittent fasting vegan that was right up my alley and only today when I was on my training walk I thinking about the mass of food to carry on extended walks. Cheers.

How do we know how many calories we need to determine deficit?

@jimbojimbo6873

Жыл бұрын

Use an online calorie calculator for a good tdee indicator

So you're a vegetarian... 😍😍😍😍 Thank you! From me and from the animals! 😍😍😍🤗😘

@darthkek1953

3 жыл бұрын

I've nothing against vegan food - it gives my food something to eat. 😈

@carmenrizzo9951

3 жыл бұрын

@@darthkek1953then you should cut the middle man and go directly to the source of your nutrition. ;)

@darthkek1953

3 жыл бұрын

@@carmenrizzo9951 my digestive tract is incapable of extracting nutrition from grass.

@carmenrizzo9951

3 жыл бұрын

@@darthkek1953 you're underestimating your body's capabilities ;)

@pawnriot3269

3 жыл бұрын

@@carmenrizzo9951 if you are what you eat, then the cow I eat is actually grass. I guess I'm vegan after all :)

Hey I really enjoyed this but it seems like everywhere I turn everyone is always talking about weight from the perspective of going from big to healthy rather than small to healthy. I eat a solid 3 meals a day and snack, and most nights I'm having a protein shake with almods, oats, peanut butter, bannana (and protein) for desert, and I still only just manage to keep my weight above 62 kg (for 178 cm height). Basically I would be super concerned with intermittent fasting, at this rate it feels like cutting any of the 3 main meals out will lead to me loosing the only mass I have.

@ChaseMountains

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I'm no expert but I'm pretty sure IF is not your path to long term weight gain. Sound like you have a classic ectomorph body shape and if you want to put on mass its gotta come in the form of muscle. Training hypertrophy 4-5 times a week and sticking to that for quite a while!

@Dylan_Scott

3 жыл бұрын

@@ChaseMountains Thanks for the reply. Yeah sounds pretty accurate . I'm at my heaviest now due to a shift in my attitude towards fitness thanks to COVID (I have been training hard both running and some home gym work). But yeah, to pair up all that activity I'm doing (last month was 330 kms), I gotta be topping it back up again. I think I need to start switching my weights up to something heavier and doing less reps. Cheers.

@ChaseMountains

3 жыл бұрын

@@Dylan_Scott you won the covid battle. Sounds like you have two conflicting goals of running and maintaining some more muscle. Not impossible by any means but it sure makes things more difficult!

Omg that you for not saying you need a crazy amount of protein !! I’m planning my first multi day hike as a vegan and super excited

A protein shake after a workout really helps with my recovery as I get older .

I like to backpack and i also like to weightlift, 300g of protein daily is essential for 150kg guy and it's not rare to see 150 kg guy in gym you should account for DIIAS score as well. It is not enjoyable. But hey, it's a verry different sports

I’ve climbed 14k peaks weighing 200lbs. It’s not really a problem.

Love your videos. Only one thing😆....... your camera is always out of focus onto other things and your face and others faces are out of focus most the time haha. Some really great info though

Totally agree with the protein discussion, keep it to 1.5 to 2.0g of protein per kg of body weight. Way lower than people tend to believe and easy to achieve.

I was trying to figure out how to eat protein powders on trail. I found that if I take a package of Jello "No Sugar" Pudding mix and add a scoop of Protein powder and 1 cup cold water, I get a protein packed pudding treat. I use ISOPURE protein mix which has a shitload of vitamins included and 25g Protein. You need less water than normal (over milk) since the protein powder causes a more liquid mix.

Re muscle mass .pro cyclists that are king of the mountain and GC contenders have little muscle mass.The sprint specialists have more muscle and oftain come in half an hour later on the big mountain top finishes.

I ate a box of Chicken Crimpy Shapes and drank a 500mL can of V while watching this.

@ChaseMountains

3 жыл бұрын

What the fuck are you thinking? Pizza shapes will outclass chicken crimpy 7 days a week.

@GypsyGirl317

3 жыл бұрын

Lol 😂 love this comment + reply.

@icewallow2611

3 жыл бұрын

@@ChaseMountains You obviously haven't had shapes on a Wednesday... Everyone knows that's Chicken Crimpy day.

@ChaseMountains

3 жыл бұрын

@@icewallow2611smh. things have obviously changed since I left Australia.

its very bad for you if you have low body fat % to go on extended high duration, fasting, hikes -> you are burning muscle once you get below a certain % body fat.

I'm a muslim. We fast like that a month out of every year and once or twice a week thereafter. There is a story where God told one of his prophets not to fast everyday. Fasting is only for God and he wanted to please God. If you change your intention for fasting(for God) you could get lots of blessings in both lives.

Yes poor cows is right 😢

i'm not sure your friend was very clear about 'fat burning' (fat adapted like carnivore/keto people) and exercise. the only disadvantage to keto or carnivore or other 'mostly fat' diets when doing training/exercise etc is explosive movements. so it might not be ideal for tennis where it covers the endurance but less the explosive movements. but for hiking should in theory be ideal. there doesn't seem to be any reason you couldn't be fat based eating on a multi-day hike as you should in theory have a steady stream of energy when you need it. arguably more so than a carb or carb/fat basis, where your body is switched to sugar burning so you constantly get hunger pangs and energy highs and lows. maybe you wanna revisit this to make it clear.

You're supporting the false equivalency between animal-based eating and a high protein diet. I'm vegan and able to eat 125+g protein per day while hiking via whole foods sources. Aka I don't supplement with protein powder or protein bars.

My guy said 8 percent bodyfat. Keep dreaming lamo

Vitamin D when you’re out hiking every day? Not sure that’s in any way necessary. Show me good evidence on the use of zinc…. And I mean GOOD clinical evidence. Garbage.

@ChaseMountains

Жыл бұрын

Sadly, I'm not out hiking every day. Walking yes, but not hiking.

TLDR: if you have ANY excess bodyfat then carbs are your enemy. If you have any excess bodyfat food should be animal fat and animal meat and green veg, and very occasional natural candies like a plum or nectarine. If you have no bodyfat then carbs are great.

Thanks