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@ChaosSwissroIl

Ай бұрын

Censorship is pathetic. Stop censoring the comments.

@StumpyNubs

Ай бұрын

If I came to your workplace and was overly rude and abusive to you, you wouldn't stand there and listen to it. You would probably have me removed. This is my workplace. If you can't treat me and others with respect, you will be removed. If you think that's pathetic, then this isn't the place for you and you should go somewhere else where you will be happier.

@groypersupreme2918

Ай бұрын

Most of these people never even touched a powertool much less owned or used one.

@KenFullman

Ай бұрын

The problem I have with the blade guard on my saw is that it is a two man job to install. It hinges on the riving knife which stands taller than the blade. Unfortunately in the examples you gave (dados, non through cuts etc...) I have to remove the riving knife which involves: Remove the insert on the table top (two crosshead screws). Remove the bolt from the end of the blade arbour. lift out the blade. Locate a spanner on one of the bolts that holds the riving knife. Now climb underneath the table and locate the nut on the other end of that bolt. Now carefully undo that nut hoping that the spanner on the other end doesn't fall off that bolt. Then repeat the last three steps for the other bolt. These two bolts can now be removed, followed by the riving knife. To replace the riving knife is the reverse procedure but you will need someone to hold the spanner from on top of the table, while someone else climbs underneath to put the nuts on. It is technically possible to carry out this procedure without removing the blade, but the injuries to the knuckles are just not worth it.

@karenkrone6156

Ай бұрын

Thank you for all your videos, they are always thoughtful and so informative.

"Then the internet will be happy and we'll only have polite, reasonable conversations about important topics." Best punchline ever in a woodworking video.

@andygardiner6526

Ай бұрын

sorry, my hilarity muscles are hurting! :-)

@Goibniu001

Ай бұрын

You forgot the ellipsis after "topics" to indicate the 1000 other words unspoken but indicated by the single eyebrow raise.🤨🤣

@MyName-tb9oz

Ай бұрын

That was... Beautiful. Really great delivery. ROFL!

@emerybryant

Ай бұрын

problem is. even if every single thing is done completely properly.the "trolls" will still find ways to attack or demean the content of the video. its sad.

@petrushka1611

Ай бұрын

*in any video.

Wow. I didn’t think that previous video was all that controversial. Seemed pretty informative.

@rayvanacore4889

Ай бұрын

Same here but you will always get someone that will nitpick as he has used that film in many of his Utube films.

@Oktokolo

Ай бұрын

The video wasn't - the ad was. I too didn't see it the first time because SponsorBlock skipped it automatically.

@joesmith1574

Ай бұрын

There are a lot of keyboard warriors with nothing better to do then to nitpick everything, and I mean EVERYTHING!

@Mighty_Atheismo

Ай бұрын

Nothing more infuriating to the internet that information

@tomm2519

Ай бұрын

There are some people who are so hostile that they could walk into an empty room and start a fight; they are as drawn to the internet as moths to flames.

I thought I had the fence parallel to the blade on my Delta. My back porch is my ‘shop’, and after a kickback shattered a window 20’ away, I unplugged the saw and decided to mow the yard instead. Thanks for your sound advice 👍

@alohadave

27 күн бұрын

When the universe tells you that you are done for the day, it's best to listen.

@MarkZart

27 күн бұрын

@@alohadave and it’s a fine day when one learns to listen.

@lgDukeCity5018

20 күн бұрын

@MarkZart Because there is no blade involved in mowing. right? 😆😆😉

@MarkZart

20 күн бұрын

@@lgDukeCity5018 Living on the edge!

@davidchristensen2572

8 күн бұрын

Wild what 1/10th of a degree will do isn't it? Those missiles are crazy.

The only noteworthy injury I've ever had working in my shop or in the field was tablesaw kickback. I had an aproximately 1'x1' piece of half inch plywood come spinning back into my stomach. The force of the blow was what I imagine getting hit with a golf club would feel like. The blunt edge of the plywood hit me hard enough to draw blood through my shirt. This was after it lost some momentum bouncing off the tablesaw fence and crushing the corner of the plywood. I'm so glad you are talking about this topic.

@jtotheb-ip2hh

Ай бұрын

had a similar event a couple years back, but it was 1/4" plywood and about 6" x 6" square. I had to cut several of them and was on my last one when I stopped paying attention. it came spinning back at me like a ninja throwing star and left a pretty good welt over my ribs. no blood fortunately. glad you're okay! stay safe.

You’re one of the best content creators in the woodworking community. The other day I was cutting some plywood strips and stopped and thought “why am I not using the blade guard for this cut?” These gentle reminders are very useful.

@grizzlyrider9649

Ай бұрын

Agreed, I’m 40 years old started building houses with my dad when I was 11. We never had a guard on because it got in the way. Then we got Dewalt job site table saw and we cut the guard down to arriving knife which eliminates more than 99% of kickback But does not protect against other problems. I am going to find that card and put it right next to my saw and start using it. Thank you

@MonkeyJedi99

Ай бұрын

He calls himself a woodworker, but he is quite evidently flesh, bone and fluids.. An outrage!!! (sarcasm, because too many internet users can't figure that out by context...)

@robertmceuen3630

Ай бұрын

I own and use a Saw Stop table saw. After watching the video, I went to the garage and put the guard back on my saw. Thanks.

@brucehansen7949

28 күн бұрын

​@@robertmceuen3630and tomorrow you'll remember why you took it off. I'm no expert but with proper equipment and proper use, there's no need for me to put the blade guard on ever, 80% of my cuts don't work with the guard on. He has links in this video description. The last one says bow featherboards. I recently bought the bow xt xtender fence and featherboards for $305 and I'm blown away at the quality of cuts I get. The featherboards prevent kickback and I use 2 push sticks so my hands never get withing 10" of the blade, for small cuts I shut off my saw before I grab my pieces. No need for that guard cuz what's the point of it when you have to remove it for certain cuts? Then your untrained when its out of the daily norm. Typing with all 10 fingers today and I don't believe that's gonna change for me. Also don't get complacent, cuz that's how folks die

I thought your "mandatory blade break" video was a well-rounded, reasoned presentation. And, as owner of a used, guardless table saw, I look forward to your aftermarket blade guard information. Thanks for sharing.

@SuperDavidEF

Ай бұрын

Same here.

@fepatton

Ай бұрын

Ditto

@Yellow.Dog.

Ай бұрын

I will too.

@mwoody4560

Ай бұрын

Me too. I’ve got the same problem. I did solve one problem by using the MicroJig splitter. That really works, I’ve unintentionally tested it. I guess the next thing will be the floating blade guard. Just gotta save some more pennies. I’ll wait a little longer to see the video.

@Beakerbite

Ай бұрын

I have a guard but installing it severely limits my cut depth because it's so bulky. I'm curious if aftermarket can help since my saw is no longer sold.

My grandfather worked in a sawmill about 1963. A 2x4 kicked back and went through his chest. He turned to the guy beside him, his best friend, and said goodbye then fell down dead. I used to stand at the door of his little workshop and watch him. He wouldn't let me go inside. He said it was to dangerous.

@johnbristol8498

27 күн бұрын

I'm sorry for your loss and should consider myself lucky. I once had a piece of wood kick back from my saw and hit me in the forearm. I thought my arm was broken, but was only very swollen and badly bruised. I was foolish and didn't have the guard in place.

When steering wheel airbags were first introduced as standard fittings for new cars, someone from a road safety lobby suggested that what was needed on all steering wheels was not an airbag ready to inflate, but a 6" steel spike pointing directly at the driver's chest. The point being that the more safety measures provided, the greater risk of complacency or sheer recklessness. I've still got five digits on each hand, but since acquiring a sizeable scar on my right-hand third finger (still visible 37 years down the line) I'm far more focused when using any power tool, not just a bench saw.

@alohadave

27 күн бұрын

Being proactive and working safely does not protect you from random accidents that aren't caused by your error. It seems rather draconian to suggest that someone else's mistake should mean that you get a spike in the chest. Bad things can happen even when you do everything correctly.

@Maltloaflegrande

27 күн бұрын

@@alohadave I think that suggestion was intended to make a point rather than be a serious proposal. Of course safety measures are a good thing overall.

Sir, the comment, "the Internet will be happy and we'll only have polite, reasonable conversations about important topics" is just another shining example of why I follow you on KZread. Your humor, directness, and open honest way of sharing information is refreshing and needed in this current environment. I applaud you for doing the follow up, even though my personal views are not wanted or needed here. Please continue the great work and sharing the great wealth of information you have. Thank you!

Haters will hate, this is one of best channels on KZread useful info without fluff, no buy from online store ect... And you remind me of my shop teacher, from fifty years ago, he was a great teacher as well.

@bluewren65

Ай бұрын

You had a teacher as nice as Stumpy 50 years ago? Lucky you. My husband had an insane woodworking teacher who used to say things like "wood doesn't grow on trees, you know!". He ended up sawing his thumb off while doing a band saw demo and refused to have it sewn back on because he wanted the workers compensation. The funniest thing was my husbands school report from him. It simply said "no comment". Hate to say it, but in terms of my husband's innate fine woodworking ability, I have to agree with him. 🤣

@joeg2942

Ай бұрын

@@bluewren65 I was lucky, the other shop teacher had missing fingers.

@joeg2942

Ай бұрын

@@christophersavignon4191 He still has to make a living, he tells you ahead of time if it's a promo. Others refere you to their store.

@lgDukeCity5018

20 күн бұрын

@joeg I was not allowed to take shop, forced to take home ec. What a total waste.

My shop teacher taught us how to use the saw without the blade guard and riving knife. I honestly didn't realize it was a problem until I started watching your videos, which was a real eye opener. You are a big proponent of safety, and I've learned so much from the channel. Thank you!

@hamptonwoodturnings

26 күн бұрын

My shop teacher did the same thing until my friend lost two fingers during class. All of a sudden he was giving entire classes on safety and every tool had its safety guards in place.

@thegardenofeatin5965

21 күн бұрын

The table saws at the high school I went to did not have riving knives, one had a guard with a splitter. I did witness a kickback event that fortunately resulted in no amputations but the operator did catch the thrown board in the gut and caught a nasty bruise. He was cutting a long, narrow piece of plywood into short pieces, using the miter gauge with the fence as a length stop. He did not set up a stop block because "this isn't a cross cut because plywood doesn't have a grain direction." An educational moment, to be sure.

@eloscuro704

Күн бұрын

40 years ago, it was the same with my shop teacher. We had a 5HP Powermatic with a 16" blade. Back then, they didn't have riving knifes and the guards that came with even the industrial saws were complete garbage.

The blade guard/riving knife discussion never fails to amaze. It’s a standard safety device on any table saw here in Europe.

@uNiels_Heart

23 күн бұрын

True, I don't think you're even allowed to sell them without those over here. However, as in general nobody will regularly come to your shop verifying you use them and there can be bosses with a strange mindset, unsafe use can still happen, unfortunately.

@eloscuro704

Күн бұрын

@@uNiels_Heart The US didn't require riving knifes until about 2011 or so, and none of the saws had one. Once they did, I bought one of the first ones available with one.

I’m outraged that the clamps in the background are at an angle. It’s an affront to straight clamp organizing everywhere. I can’t believe you want me to organize my life so that all 10 fingers stay on my hands, but you don’t do the same with your clamps. Im going to go out and buy a domino and then return it immediately.

@jbirzer

Ай бұрын

The OCD people have entered the chat.

@charlesfield9286

Ай бұрын

You ruined the whole video for me.

@kwilliams2239

Ай бұрын

@@charlesfield9286 Even I noticed it. It is disturbing. Treating nice clamps lile that.😁

@TheHumbleCarpenter

Ай бұрын

😂

@TheHumbleCarpenter

Ай бұрын

I immediately noticed them lol

Unwavering dedication and humility make you a standout. Congrats!

@-_.._._--_.-.-_-_-_-...-.-

Ай бұрын

Truly one of KZread's Greats!

@billytheman

Ай бұрын

I agree and I'm a 60+years wood worker and never use a guard, still have all my fingers,but I'll never tell anyone to do what I do.

@pete_lind

Ай бұрын

Did you spot his "error" , Abrasive net was invented by Mirka , under their patent still ... few more years.

Fantastic content! Keep up the good work! You're the reason I re-installed my splitter on my saw. It's a low-end saw which it came with a "blade guard shaped device" (great description) that I threw away on day one, it was that pathetic. Big fan of push sticks and push shoes. I also approach every cut with the assumption that a kickback is always possible, so I plan for many "what if" situations to keep me safe around the most dangerous tool a typical homeowner might own.

Both of your videos are spot on! I worked in a cabinet factory for 6 years making high end custom kitchen cabinets. Never used blade guards on our table saws, which we probably should have, but only had one issue in that time frame and it was due to a kick back. We had two table saws running every day all day long, to keep up with production. We were so fast using table saws that most people wouldn’t believe it even if they seen it.

Eminently sensible as always. You're an asset to the entire woodworking community.

I learned a valuable lesson about blade guards about a year ago. I'm a very occasional woodworker, using a DeWalt jobsite as my table saw. I was ripping a board while building a desk for my granddaugher- no blade guard and my push block laying on the workbench behind me, when my thumb made just the slightest contact with the blade, giving it a relatively minor cut- it frightened me like few other things. I shut down my saw, went over to my shop seat, sat down and regained my composure enough to tell my wife what I had just done, clean and bandaged the wound. After I gathered enough courage, I went back to my saw, installed the blade guard- pretty easy to do- and have used it ever since. Something I thought was a hindrance to using the saw is not- period. I'd love to have a SawStop saw, but I don't see myself spending that much money for one when other tools in my shop need upgrading (Porter-Cable tabletop jointer and planer, I'm looking at you!) Thanks for being an advocate for responsible power tool usage Stumpy, I should have listened to you before I tried to shorten my right thumb. Thank God I was unsuccesful.

@bluewren65

Ай бұрын

So glad the incident was minor. I have the same Dewalt jobsite saw. It's a good unit, but I never take the guard off. Honestly, the table saw is the only machine that truly terrifies me, and so I treat it with reverence and respect and concentrate on every cut. If I can do a cut on any other machine, such as a bandsaw, mitre saw or router, I will do it every time.

@sferg9582

Ай бұрын

When I was in high school, I enrolled in "Metal Shop". I was using a surface grinder without the teacher ever taking time to instruct me in the proper setup and taking safety into consideration. I took a narrow piece of steel and stood it up on the magnetic chuck and proceeded to grind the end of the piece. It wasn't ever going to stay there in the upright position and immediately took off across the room with a loud bang, taking out a huge chunk of the grinding wheel! That single incident spooked me sooooooooo bad that later in my professional career as a toolmaker, I hated working on surface grinders for a looooooong time after that. A close call like that is a serious wake-up to open your eyes to "what could have been", and safety with a proper setup and execution is paramount. Shortcuts will never be okay when working around machinery.

@stevehenrickson5939

Ай бұрын

Congratulations on avoiding a terrible injury. Grateful for your story because I think my experience level is similar, and one day my miter saw threw a small workpiece at me and scared me straight instead of injuring me.

@chaunceyfeatherstone6209

Ай бұрын

@@sferg9582 Same. Sliced a nice flat spot on inner side of the tip of my thumb -- while reaching for my push-stick. Oh, the irony. Shaved off a sliver of my nail too. Strangely, it grew back nice and round, complete with fingerprint. No scar. But it never regained sensation. My silent reminder.

@Mighty_Atheismo

Ай бұрын

That dewalt job saw blade guard is pretty swanky!! Glad you were able to dust off and get back in the shop. That woulda freaked me out too.

I have my Dad's 1953 Craftsman table saw. There never was a blade guard or splitter on it. I have been allowed to use it alone since I was 12 years old, and the greatest safety device was my Dad said if I ever got cut on it, I would never be allowed to use it again. I'm 76 now and still have all my full-length fingers. If you are going to look into aftermarket safety devices, I would really like to fit it with a splitter. I hope you can find such an add-on. Thanks for all the great info you put out about woodworking.

First, thanks for all the useful information you have provided over the years. I would be very interested in a video, or videos, on aftermarket blade guards, and DIY blade guards, as I have one of those less expensive TS's that had a cheap blade guard the was impossible to put back on the saw. At least the riving knife was not integral to the blade guard. Having the blade guard on your table saw in your videos, is a good idea. You can still show the blade,fence and show how to set the cut up, and then put the blade guard on when you actually make the cuts. One thing you might want to consider is showing the situations where you don't use the blade guard and why you chose to remove it. While people will differ on when they use and not use a guard, I would find it useful to hear your reasoning for not using one and, of course, the precautions you take in those situations. It will at least give us a process to use when deciding to not use a guard. Even though we may differ on when to use a guard, or not, the method of deciding may be the same regardless of the actual decision.

Previous video was 100% analytical, sensible, open to conversation. One of the best videos on this channel. Very surprised that people found it controversial, it was by far the direct opposite.

@robertvermaak801

Ай бұрын

I am surprised that you are surprised. Didn't you notice in his sanding he didn't wear sharkproof chainmail gloves full face shield or respirator ? And where is the CIA trained bodyguard? 😂😂😂

@constantinosschinas4503

Ай бұрын

@@robertvermaak801 What???? unsubscribing.

@robertvermaak801

Ай бұрын

@constantinosschinas4503 This is just pure reckless behavior , teaching other people to think for themselves. 😆

@constantinosschinas4503

Ай бұрын

@@robertvermaak801 how dare you!

@MonkeyJedi99

Ай бұрын

I don't know. Using something that reduces kickbacks is not going to make our corporate overlords happy. Not one bit.

Thank you for another informative video. As someone who junk picked his 3.5 hp table saw with No Riving Knife, I’d appreciate information about retrofitting one to an older saw. 😉

I used my table saw twice, and now it sits in my garage holding up a box of cleaning supplies because that tool terrifies the hell out of me.

@lgDukeCity5018

20 күн бұрын

@Killerator Sam here. Hand tools are slightly more friendly to your fingers.

Found it! You put the paper on without showing the paddle trigger sander wasn't unplugged. Now the internet can remain the angry place we all know and love! ;)

@yngndrw.

Ай бұрын

Good catch!

@user-xh9pt8zu2l

Ай бұрын

Sigh! And here was me thinking it was the ungloved or otherwise at risk hand stabilising the wood. My best practice ambition has always been to have all the squishy bits behind and/or away from the tool, so clamping the piece while sanding would be the better demonstration. Otherwise the only real objection is that you are just so damn reasonable. It makes me feel less than perfect! 😉 Keep up the good work.

@vallejokid1968

Ай бұрын

I remember that video. People lost their proverbial crap over that one.

@geoffb108

Ай бұрын

I though he didn't have the wood safely clamped. Or maybe wasn't wearing safety gloves and a condom

@OldPumpMan

Ай бұрын

I thought it was just the act of sanding in general; damn I hate sanding sometimes😀.

I have an old Craftsman table saw, circa 1975, that came with a blade guard. In two moves with the saw and the rest of my tools I have misplaced or forgotten what I did with said blade guard. I have never been hurt by the blade and once with a minor kickback that hit my hand was more surprised than hurt. After watching your recent video, I plan to try and find my original blade guard or see if I can purchase one, new or second-hand, to stop tempting fate. 50 years of relative safety may just mean my turn is due. Thanks for restating the obvious for us woodworkers, both high grade and weekenders (like me).

@joer5627

Ай бұрын

I have my grandad’s 1964 Craftsman. Safety is between my ears. Grandad lost all safety features decades ago.

@wayner806

Ай бұрын

I too have a Crasftman 113 that I added a SharkGuard guard and splitter. I don’t use the saw enough to stay completely comfortable and felt it was a decent safety upgrade vs a new saw.

@zaxmaxlax

Ай бұрын

My grandad had a lumberyard in Brazil and was in the business since he was a child, never lost a finger. The secret is to always be scared of the machines. You guys have no ideia how hard exotic woods are, you cut them so slow the chances of kick back are minimal.

Wow, people are so full of themselves. There will always be keyboard warriors that will comment on something they should be quiet about. Keep doing what you're doing sir.

I love that you are taking such a strong and fact based position on this topic. I have been woodworking (strictly amateur) for 40+ years. My table saw is a Craftsman, also 40+ years. While I have not been a fanatic about it, I almost always use the blade guard. One reason is that the splitter is part of the blade guard. So no guard, no splitter. I learned early on that it is wise to have a splitter. No doubt more modern saws have better guards that are easier to attach & remove, but it only takes a few moments to do so. I don’t really see why most woodworkers don’t use them. Maybe if more people watch your videos…

Thanks Stumpy for all the great content!! Just have to add one comment... I found the 3M Cubitron Ad to be very abrasive! 😁

@opendstudio7141

Ай бұрын

😮Well, that was a cutting remark!

@bruces6778

Ай бұрын

What​ can we so to smooth this over?

@ChiefTiff

Ай бұрын

It certainly wore me down much quicker than the other Ad...

@LYLEWOLD

Ай бұрын

The Dad-joke force is strong with this one. :-)

50 year retired millwork professional. The only time we had the guards on was if the OSHA inspector was coming. Stumpy is correct when he says that "kickback" is the most recurring injury accident. All the really bad finger cutting injuries I saw were on the band saws because the guard was too high. The table saw injuries occurred because of "chatter" as the work was not held down properly. This also applies to the shapers. After a few years I could hear a "kickback" about to happen. When I saw Stumpy push that board thru, I see no hold down at all. I preached this my whole career. Hold that work DOWN !!! And wax your saw !

@brucehansen7949

28 күн бұрын

Great advice, I'm still a novice of 8 years wood working in my hobby time, and I learned after 3-4 years when kickback is about to occur and last 4+ years not once have I had any kickback at all. When that motor starts working harder, pull your wood back and push into the cut again. Either they don't know what they're doing or they get complacent, which I learned in the army that complacency gets people killed. So I'm serious about safety, every cut I make I make a mental note "don't be complacent, don't slop your way thru this, where are my 10 fingers before the cut and where are they after?" A table saw is no joke, I take mine seriously and no I don't use the guard cuz it sucks on my dewalt table saw, I take other precautions besides what I already mentioned, also i recommend getting the x bow fence and all the accessories, don't even need a jointer anymore since I got it. $300 same price for a fence as what I paid for the table saw and I'm getting absolutely beautiful cuts perfectly straight, the accessories (feather boards) help big time. They prevent kickback as well and keep my fingers far from the blade, I also use 2 push sticks which I rarely see on KZread videos, just be sure your front of the cut is pressed down when using 2 sticks or it can kickback if you don't have featherboards. Done atleast 10,000 cuts without featherboards 2 push stick method not 1 kick back, so it's not complicated

@rhetorical1488

26 күн бұрын

my shop teacher told us never stand directly behind your work being fed into a machine. He specified thickness planers and table saws as the main culprits for kickbacks and we got to watch the industrial accident videos to prove it. if its not your personal band saw its always too loose or tight lol.

@costidisa

25 күн бұрын

​​@@brucehansen7949I am also a hobbyist (15yrs) but don't know that I agree with your "back the work out and feed it again" comment. First of all, many hold down devices like featherboards and anti-kickback pawls are designed to specifically stop the piece from backing out. If you're using any of those, they will make backing out difficult or impossible. You have to shut off saw and lift piece off or forward once blade stops spinning. Secondly, backing out while saw is running involves a 180deg change in direction which increases the likelihood of racking the piece and pinching the blade (especially without a riving knife but i try to always have that on except for very unique cuts). I choose to keep feeding forward but make slight adjustments. A safe pushstick, sharp/clean blade, and good force direction ensure the work piece stays on the fence straight (if you can't afford expensive Jessem stock guides etc). Riving knife takes care of inherent wood tension collapsing offcut on the blade. On large/deep cuts, ifbthe piece allows, I usually leave a little extra wood on a quick rough pass so precision isnt important, then make the precise final cut once the bulk is gone and kickback is far less likely because the offcut doesn't have the mass to pinch the blade. Slightly more waste but makes it easier, as long as you're not trying to perfectly match grain on a lamination etc. Using the right blade for the task also matters. Sometimes I have to fight my lazy impulse to "just use the blade that's on the saw" because I don't want to blade change. However, toothcounts and sharpness matter for different cuts and materials. The added benefit is reducing additional work later. For instance, a quality glueline rip blade cab significantly reduce, planing, sanding or clamping demands down the line if laminating.

@thomaschandler4831

24 күн бұрын

Absolutely brother …. I use guides on the side of my wood as well as a hand held for the top … I have had kick back and was very very lucky it missed me 3 times … so I got safety equipment… and that solved that .

@thomaschandler4831

24 күн бұрын

@@brucehansen7949I just got a brand new Dewalt table saw and a grizzly plainer … that table saw is awesome … I learned the way you did on the use of a table saw … now I do NOT rush my cuts … I push threw very slow … and I use guides and proper push tools … what a big difference…. Brother you are spot on 🏆👍☕️😁

Happy to be one of the middle-of-the-road fans of your excellent channel. Appreciate the well informed presentations that have made me a better woodworker. I don’t see being able to afford a StopSaw anytime soon. I do look forward to a comprehensive discussion of aftermarket blade guards, which my wife will get for me if I don’t do it myself. Thanks James.

I never appreciated how important ease of removal/installation of the blade guard is until I recently got a new saw. With my new saw, I can very quickly pop out the blade guard/riving knife (as a single assembly) and pop it back in without even removing the throat plate (it's a Harvey saw, like yours, so it has that little riving knife locking pin you can pull back with a finger through the hole in the throat plate). Now that I have that simple, little feature, I find myself more often putting the blade guard back in after taking it out for specific cuts, instead of like I used to do with my old saw where I would remove it never really put it back on for long periods of time. My old saw had the more typical process of removing the blade guard from the riving knife, removing the throat plate, unlocking the riving knife with a cam lever, repositioning the riving knife to the lower position (so that it would allow non-through cuts), relocking it, and putting the plate back in. With the new saw, I just pull back and turn the locking pin to the side (through the hole in the throat plate), pull out the blade guard/riving knife assembly, push in the new non-blade-guard riving knife, and turn back the locking pin so that it springs back into the lock position. That's it. It makes the transition noticeably easier.

Thanks Stumpy for keeping us abreast of regulatory issues we aren’t paying attention to!

@-_.._._--_.-.-_-_-_-...-.-

Ай бұрын

Yeah, they almost slipped it by right under our noses.

Looking forward to the video on aftermarket/diy blade guards and riving knives. I've got an old Delta 36-640 that has sentimental value. Replacing that missing part would be half the cost of a new table saw.

Your humility & honesty make you all the more a woodworker to appreciate. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

My old Delta Unisaw (like many of us are using) came with a blade guard that was so much work to take on and off that I never put it on. I finally discovered Sharkguard who make aftermarket solutions. Most important to me is the riving knife. (Though it has to be manually adjusted because it is an add on device.) The Sharkguard setup also has a fantastic easy to remove blade guard with dust collection as well. I have all my fingers, but I know from over 25 years of woodworking just how much safer a saw with a riving knife is. The blade guard and dust collection are great added bonuses for me.

James, I appreciated your coverage. I don't know why people would get upset with you. Thank you for your channel. So much valuable content! ❤

@StumpyNubs

Ай бұрын

I bring it on myself to some extent :) But most of the time it's that they don't listen to what I am saying and instead run to the comments.

@wayner806

Ай бұрын

@@StumpyNubs At least you got a lot of algorithm exposure from the controversial episode. I love my Ridge Carbide 😉

I've only had 1 kickback during my years of woodworking on my old 10" table saw. No harm was done but the way that piece of wood whizzed past me and up against the wall behind put the fear into me. I looked for a retro curf splitter but couldn't find anything that was workable so I fabricated my own. It works well (tilts with the blade) and I feel more confident when ripping. Thanks for posting you video. ps the splitter was fashioned with portions of a framing square.

Hi Stumpy - I agree - For info, In the UK, whatever you do in your own workshop is ultimately down to the person, but commercially there always has to to be a blade guard for this very reason. Dado cuts are legal here as long as you have a 'floating guard' We certainly can't sell any saws without a guard. I would never use a TS without a guard or riving knife. When I was involved with CE on USA Saws to Europe - your standard USA blade guards also didn't qualify as the plastic moulding wall thickness was too thin to meet the exact specs. needed. New 'heavier duty' guards were introduced for CE.

You sure are right about blade guards, I'm glad you brought up that subject because all my table saws suffer from exceptionally poor design, (all were cheap machines), which forces one to remove it all each time one need to make a limited depth cut, then one stand there with lots of small fiddly parts that not just all has to go back, but one has to tune in the knife each time. One can wonder if there is a law regulation that states that the knife always must reach over the blade…🤨

James - keep up the good content and remember, you can’t fix stupid. Honestly, in my opinion, the most unsafe thing you can do with a table saw is to use it when you are tired. Making that “one last cut” was how I had my first/only kickback accident. I’m lucky I didn’t lose fingers and only ended up with a nice bruise on my abdomen.

@bluewren65

Ай бұрын

Definitely stop way before you get to being tired. I also like to check that I'm paying attention constantly when doing repetitive cuts. I had to cut a whole lot of stickers on my mitre saw to put between boards for storage the other day and had to pull myself up because I started day dreaming during the process.

@joer5627

Ай бұрын

Amen! I found kickback hurts a bit on a last tired cut years ago on a cheap skill. That left a mark plus a hole in the sheetrock.

I recently disposed of my 15 year old Ryobi table saw from Bunnings (Australia). I couldn't find any aftermarket riving knives that would fit and the one that came with it was wider than any blade I could seem to buy. I had to struggle to force timber past it, which would also push the incredibly bad fence away from the back of the blade. The fence was also that bad that it would flex from side to side, giving an inaccurate cut. I never really did feel safe with it out of the box, but the added issues after replacing the blade was the final straw. I bit the bullet and ripped it to bits and threw it in the bin. When I told my father-in-law that I threw it because of safety issues, he sneered at me. One of those "old timers" with the "it'll never happen to me" attitudes. But it wasn't his fingers on the line...

@johnadamski4012

Ай бұрын

🌲🍀🐾Should have sent it back to the manufacturer, and warned them not to put something that "resembles" a table saw back out on the market again! Or else🐾🍀🌲.

@ratofvengence

Ай бұрын

They are absolute crap. I've recently upgraded from cheaparse Aldi saw to a Hikoki, and DAMN its nice to use!

@stephencorsaro954

27 күн бұрын

You can run across the street without looking at 2am because no one is driving but eventually someone will be and.....

@uNiels_Heart

23 күн бұрын

I'm glad you're listening to your feeling of safety or lack thereof. It's like your subconscious telling you something.

James you are a great teacher. I watch your videos all the time. I am 71 and been an avid woodworker all my life. I have had several saws over the years. I have never had a problem with all the saws because in the early years I had great knowledgeable teachers like you. You do a great job showing all sides of the issues. Some nay sayers out there need to get a life. Maybe their shorts are on too tight. Nevertheless keep up the great work that you are doing.

James, I appreciate all the vids you have done with safety in mind. I'm a very part time, mostly self taught woodworker who can use all the help he can find. Thanks for giving us the benefit of your experience.

My main critique of Sawstop from the beginning is that it may create a false sense of security from all table saw dangers, most of all kickback. And that's why I really feel safer using my Gripper to be able to apply a good amount of pressure to the workpiece for a good clean cut while protecting my hands by putting space and a big chunky push block between me and the blade. Even if I had a Sawstop I would still want to use blade guards and nice push blocks like the gripper, which is why I feel it would really be a waste of money. The main danger left that I have to deal with is keeping away from the blade as it spins down after use. It would be nice if manufacturers would add a brake to the saws to stop the blade much faster after shutting off, and maybe some do already.

@philshock3805

Ай бұрын

Yeah, too bad there isn't a safety device that stops / retracts the blade if accidentally touched even while the blade is spinning down? Oh, wait ...

@chrisschultz6129

Ай бұрын

So we shouldn't drive cars with airbags because it creates a false sense of security? I get what you're saying; and you're not wrong; but I think anyone who can afford and wants a SS should buy one; and all woodworking businesses with employees who use a table saw should be mandated by their insurance carrier to use SS; but we should also be free to use something else. There's multiple ways of doing everything in woodworking so if something doesn't feel safe than use another method to accomplish your goal.

@fins9584

Ай бұрын

Aren't blade guards and the Gripper mutually exclusive? The Gripper is designed to straddle the blade, which would preclude using a guard. You can still use a riving knife or a splitter, but how would you use a guard?

@coolbugfacts1234

Ай бұрын

seatbelts in cars give drivers a false sense of security. we should repeal those laws and see how many peoples' lives are saved by not having to wear them!

@bluewren65

Ай бұрын

@@fins9584 I guess if you were ripping wide stock? I mostly use my gripper on my buzzer because I never take my table saw guard off.

Hey Stumpy, I have been watching your videos for several years now and I do not have an expensive table saw. Mine is the Skil spt 99. If you do make a video or videos about after market or diy blade guards I would certainly appreciate it. My table saw has a very weak blade guard with a riving knife that is easily misaligned. I did watch the video about saw stop and the future of table saws and I am glad that I did. I have learned so much from your videos and I thank you for what you do. I am a disabled Viet Nam veteran who picked up woodworking to help me with my combat related PTSD. Keep up the good work you do!

I have one of those $700.00 Delta table saws. Bought it maybe a year ago. It's not perfect, but the best saw I've had after 30-40 years of using table top job saws. The other day I put the blade guard on... and immediately removed it. In addition to it being just plain chintzy, I could not move the thing up and out of the way so that I could use my tape to measure my rip... from the fence to the blade. This is how I make sure my rip fence is right where I need it. If I had a high-quality blade guard that I could lift up and have it stay put while I measure, that would be great. So I'm going to look into getting a high-quality, after-market guard that has this feature. Thanks for the great videos. I use what I learn here almost every day. You da bomb!

Clever way to make sure people watch your sponsor! Yay! Seriously, I came to this channel in the beginning to learn how to be safe with my first table saw. A Saw-Stop table saw. As many have said, including you, cutting something you did not want to cut is not the only danger of having a spinning sharp blade in your house.

Aftermarket options will be much appreciated! I have an early 2000’s model Craftsman and the guard / splitter is not great. I’ve mostly used it with guard removed. Lately, I’ve been making cuts for projects that require more accuracy and precision and the lack of a good splitter/riving knife is creating a lot of post-cut work to clean up.

You’re a professional and I don’t question anything you do. I figure out my own level of safety. That video made me rethink the way I was holding a chisel the other day. Thanks.

I for one would LOVE to see after-market blade guard & riving knife options. I have an old Rigid table saw. I suppose it is considered a cabinet saw, as it's not a portable jobsite-style saw. There is no riving knife, though it does have a splitter. Unfortunately, said splitter is integrated with the blade guard (or vice versa, depending on how you look at it). So if I need to remove the blade guard, like to cut a groove or something, the splitter comes off with it. Since learning about riving knives, this has bothered me. Not to the point that I'll replace the saw, of course. Just to make me question the safety. So yes, please do a video on that. I don't know if I could fit an after-market riving knife on, but having some options at least to research would be good. And I trust your wisdom & recommendations completely. Thank you for all you do, & have a wonderful day! :)

i perfectly understand there are some times when a guard or riving knife can not be used as in one such examples like cutting a lap joint on the table saw without a dado stack, and i have paid the price a couple of times but no bits lost. however i always try and keep it on my triton 2000 saw as i don't have a proper table saw yet but would like a way to make a guard that does hang over the table without a riving knife for cutting above tenons or half lap joints. If you have an idea always interest to try it out

You're one of my fav presenters! Cheers, Mark

@dangre47

Ай бұрын

👍

I was shouting at the TV "where is his push stick!!!!!!!!!", but missed the missing blade guard. 🤣

@StumpyNubs

Ай бұрын

You don't engage the push stick until the end of the board is on top of the saw. I reach for it when that time comes, but the video cuts off before that.

@Korgon2013

Ай бұрын

What if my saw has neither? It’s too old….

@billycox475

Ай бұрын

I was thinking of that Steppenwolf song

@dougggiereid

Ай бұрын

@@Korgon2013 I have the same problem. See my comment above. A throat plate with splitter is the best I can do to improve kickback prevention, but no solution to the blade guard.

@bluewren65

Ай бұрын

@@Korgon2013 Time to trade up, my friend.

Hiw do you find the quick change riving knife on the Harvey? Changing on my Hammer is a pain. I do use the knife and guard where I can but its an effort every time...

@StumpyNubs

Ай бұрын

There is a little tab that you pull and it releases the guard or the riving knife. You don't even have to remove the throat insert to do it.

I have a Jet JWT-10 table saw. To be honest it is an older, bottom of the line model. My blade guard is all but impossible to install or remove depending on the cut. It also doesn't allow me to make cuts on lumber much thicker than a 2x4. Without the blade guard I do not have a writhing knife. I want to use the blade guard and because I don't use it very often, I am always terrified of the potential danger I am in. Do you have any suggestions as to what can be done to make it more feasible to attach a good blade guard. (I look forward to your next video.

You're one of the best Woodworking teachers of this generation… I wish KZreadrs were able to ignore the haters

Absolutely Thank You

Great Response! I agreed with most of the points you made in your first video. Anyone who complained about not having a blade guard on an ad for saw blades clearly doesn't have anything better to do and should probably be ignored anyway. I'd love to see your suggestions for home made/ 3rd party guards. I have two table saws at home. One is a newer cheap dewalt portable saw and I love the blade guard on that and use it most of the time (sometimes I use the riving knife and push sticks for narrow rips). But, my main saw in the shop is an old 60's craftsman with a cast iron top. I love that saw but there is no way I can find to mount any sort of guard or riving knife to it. As a result, it mainly gets used for dados and cross cuts. Anyway, I'd like to see what you would suggest.

My table saw never had a blade guard. It is as old as I am. My mom got it for my dad for Christmas 4 days before I was born in 1966. What would you recommend to use as a removable blade guard?

Appreciate the follow up, but just want to point out that flesh sensing tech would be an AND safety, not an OR. Really looking forward to the follow up with aftermarket options!

@johndoe6032

Ай бұрын

But it could give people a false sense of security if the wanted to do "just a quick cut" without a blade guard or push block. I've seen it in many YT woodworking videos.

@Finwolven

Ай бұрын

I recall the discussion about seat belts in cars, how they would 'lull drivers into false sense of security' and promote speeding... There's always major pushback against any regulation that mandates security technology that adds cost.

@philshock3805

Ай бұрын

@@johndoe6032 Seems many people who make that claim are those trying to justify the decision to not fork over for a SawStop. I bought a SS "just in case", not because I wanted to get lazy. A Sawstop is no more expensive than any other premium table saw but even if it was, it's still far cheaper than a trip to the ER.

@coolbugfacts1234

Ай бұрын

@@johndoe6032Do seatbelts cause people to be less careful when driving than if they didn't have seatbelts? Sure, absolutely. But you would have to be a complete ****ing moron to suggest seatbelts aren't useful or effective.

@hatsuru-hito

Ай бұрын

@@Finwolven Great point. Yes, this will increase prices. HOWEVER, if every table saw manufacturer were to implement the technology, the prices will not sky rocket. Are people really going to complain about a 200 dollar increase in price? Just save for the next two paychecks? If you don't have fingers chances are you're not going to get another paycheck, and you wont be able to support you or your family. few extra hundred is worth every penny.

James. Their are who enjoy criticizing everything. Please ignore them. I have learned so much from your educational videos and have become a better woodworker because of them. Keep the humor and continue what you are doing and don’t bend to the idiots of the world.

I look forward to the discussion of after-market blade guards. The blade guard on my old Ridgid TS3650 is a major hassle to take on and off, doesn't incorporate a riving knife, is pretty flimsy, incompatible with my sleds, and the splitter can get wonky which causes unwanted deflection. As a consequence of these, I seldom use it, but I'm also aware of how this makes using my saw more dangerous.

I think it would be a great idea to see 0:00 the woodworking KZreadrs using blade guards when appropriate. KZreadrs are sometimes referred to as influencers, so I agree you should set the example. Show us ways to creatively use blade guards to make cuts safer that some of us have not thought about. For example I would really appreciate some ideas on a blade guard friendly crosscut sled. I have my dads 1990 delta which allows a splitter but not a riving knife. So don't forget about those of us who have to use guards connected to splitters. I thank you and the other woodworking KZreadrs for all you do for the hobby.

I'd love a D.I.Y guard video, I bought an ancient Rockwell Table saw that doesn't have a guard or riving knife :)

JAMES!!!! You are one of the best at what you do. And have been nothing but one of the most inspiring woodworkers on KZread. I find you to be informative and trustworthy. Keep up the great content.

Bought my first tablesaw a few months ago. 50's style craftsman 103. No splitter, knife, or blade guard option that doesn't cost at least twice as much as what I bought the saw for. Saving up for a delta now.

I agree with your kickback assessment. I was ripping a board years ago and it pinched between the fence and blade and kicked back on me. Caused a huge bruise on my belly, and one carbide tip flew off and hit my cheek just under my safety glasses. Scared the crap out of me. Didn't turn the saw on for many months.

Thank you for the Saw Stop video and for this follow up too. I see you as being totally trustworthy and I greatly appreciate your dedication to helping the woodworking community. I'm sure that the silent majority on here feel exactly the same.

Again, I commend you for being one of - if not the only - voice of reason in regards to blade guards. Despite the faux pas of the particular footage used at the end of that video, you have long advocated for guard and riving knife use whenever possible. I also agree that the user decides when, where, and if to use a blade guard. Unfortunately, KZread content creators are also called "influencers" for a reason. There are so many videos of unprotected cuts on KZread that I have no doubt that many users have had their decisions adversely "infuenced." Even worse are videos dedicated to rationalizing not using blade guards. Thanks for being the one to swim against the tide!

Great video, stresses the importance, but leave the decision to the user. I agree, kickbacks are far more common. I have had a few kickbacks, but one stands out for me. On a job making many repetitive cuts, a piece came off the saw so fast I could not possibly react in time. The impact put a hole in a 1/2” plywood door. If possible, I use the guard with anti kick back pawls. If I can’t, I make sure I stand to the side of the blade. Keith

Thank you for your comments about bladeguards on less expensive saws. I have a lower end saw and the blade guard that came with it makes it impossible to even push a piece of wood through. So, I don't use it. I would use a blade guard if it didn't negatively impact my woodworking.

“Then the internet will be happy!”😂😂😂😂 Man! James, that was the best. Great content as per usual.

Bada Bing Bada Boom. Kickbacks often send people’s digits zinging off the blade as well. I’m a 68 year old ten fingered Woodworker who just YESTERDAY upgraded the on/off switch on my ancient Dewalt Rockwell #10. The second upgrade of the switch in the 30 years I’ve owned it. And I did it WITHOUT a mandate. I live in Californistan and I Vehemently oppose just about anything the Government tries to Mandate under the Guise of “it’s for your own good”. Because it practically never is anymore. It ALWAYS has $$$$$ attached. Money that costs US and enriches THEM. Cheers. Keep up the great content. I truly enjoy it. We’re never too old to learn.

@dontfit6380

Ай бұрын

Living in Californistan and opposing government mandates. Wow that has to be a full time job! I feel for you.

@dansanger5340

Ай бұрын

I don't like mandates, either. But, I understand why regulators often resort to them. Many if not most people simply don't behave rationally. Look at all the people destroying their lives with drugs, alcohol, gambling, or cigarettes. That's not rational. Look at all the people who don't save for retirement, even when they can afford it. That's not rational. Look at all the people who drive around recklessly, often without seatbelts. So, while I often cringe at intrusive regulations, I understand the people they are designed for.

@dontfit6380

Ай бұрын

@@dansanger5340 it’s nobody job to decide who behaves rationally. People went many years driving without seatbelts. Government CAFE standards caused manufacturers to lighten the vehicles to the point of you could get killed or maimed in a 30mph accident. This is why so many are hurt in vehicle accidents. The only reason seatbelts laws came about was for insurance companies. The government doesn’t give two 💩 about you. It’s only about power and money. When someone says should the government? The resounding answer should be NO

@williambranham6249

Ай бұрын

You can’t fix stupid.😳

@MarcusRefusius

Күн бұрын

⁠@@dansanger5340 So riddle me this then…..WHY are Cigarettes NOT a Schedule one Narcotic? They fit ALL the criteria. $$$$$$$$$$$$$ The Prosecutions RESTS your Honor!

I think you touched on the real issue in this video when you said that it is the individual woodworker who has the "Freedom to Choose" when to use a guard and not. When Government mandates something they are essentially taking that choice away from us and they are FORCING manufacturers to make products that may well be outside of their business model. I personally don't believe that the Government as any more business to be in my small garage shop than they have in my bed room. Also, like you I think that the threat of kick backs is far greater than the threat of blade contact. I've had dozens of kickbacks and near kickbacks over the years but never once had a contact with the blade. Why isn't there a call for the inclusion of a riving knife on all table saws? But, last I checked, only the upper end, most expensive saws come with a true riving knife.

I found this and the previous video informative. I look forward to information on (affordable) after market guards. My personal saw is a contractor grade saw. The guide is difficult to install and remove. When setting up the saw for a new cut the guard won't stay out of the way as adjustments are made. On the positive side the saw's riving knife is independent of the guard and in place 99% of the time.

I agreed with your comments completely.

I've been hurt by kick back twice. Only nicked my finger once. I almost lost an eye with kick back, never even needed stitched for my nick

50+ years as a professional and hobbyist woodworker (using a 1940s Delta Unisaw almost exclusively the entire time), and I support most everything said here. About 5 years ago, I cut myself on the tablesaw a couple of weeks after the worst (of less than a handful in 50 years) kickback I had ever experienced. As they were sewing up the tip of my thumb at urgent care, they discovered the multi-hued 6 in dia bruise on my stomach. Suddenly, my thumb wasn't so bad. My point is this: both incidents occurred within weeks of each other after a lifetime of experience. Both were serious, but I still have all of my thumb and didn't damage any internal organs. Along with PPE, which guards and stops effectively are, users need experience and education in using the equipment. Convincing people of this is the hardest thing to do, and videos like this are great for spreading tthe word. What's most important is to realize there's no "one size fits all" solution that *must* be used *all the time *. There's a lot to be said for good sense, experience, and education. One more thing and I'll get off the soapbox: if I'm going to do something and it occurs to me that it could be risky, I stop and think it through. I've found that if I ignore that thought, more often than not, something undesired happens.

I use an overhead retractable home made lexan blade guard whenever possible and always use a face sheild and hearing protection when my saw is being used. I also use push sticks on table and band saw. 79 years old and no accidents up to now even though there have been kick backs. Keep up the great videos.

I have an older Craftsman table saw. The blade guard is a pain to put on, have to have a square handy to line up and takes a couple cuts to turn in. Looking forward to your video on this.

Please stop pointing out all the hazards of woodworking, I am an anesthetist and need all those Darwin award winners to stay in business over at the trauma center! Keep up the awesome job, Love this channel!

@bonedaddy996

Ай бұрын

Agreed. The idea of “you can’t fix stupid” provided me with a generous income for my entire career.

as a lifelong woodworker and Carpenter, you've done the best job explaining the balance between engineering and personal responsibility and part of that responsibility is training. Great job! keep it up.

Thanks again James Hamilton for another spot on, well balanced and informative video. You are an asset to the woodworking community. I have a magnificent and accurate craftsman 113 from the early 80's I devotedly restored and have always been interested in at least a riving knife somehow attached to the carriage. Any helpful insight would be appreciated. From SE Michigan.

The internet will never be happy, polite, or reasonable.

We had OSHA inspector coming to a woodshop, saw the woodworker without hearing protection, pulled the main switch and started shouting. The woodworker looked up, looked at the inspector and pulled out a pad "Hi, I'm Henrik. I wad born deaf" He got a bad report "Woodworker, although deaf, not wearing hearing protection "

@richardbrookins5406

11 күн бұрын

And that was the stupidity of the inspector. My main dealing with OSHA came after the tragic death of a contractor employee in a fall. The Jax office sent over an inspector for a falling death that did not know what 100% tie off ment. I had to take 3 employees from the job, have one put on a harness, and the other two stood there and acted as anchor points so the inspector would have an idea of what was supposed to be going on.

@user-nj6yb3ob5j

9 күн бұрын

Friend of mind that worked at a stamping plant. The company hired totally deaf people for jobs in the loudest area. OSHA fined them because the people were not wearing hearing protection. The Inspector even started yelling at this one guy who he claimed later was waving his hands at him. The inspector had no idea even after being told repeatedly that every one he was yelling at were deaf and they were hand signing him trying to communicate.

I have a 20+ year old delta contractor saw. No riving knife. I would love a solution either purchase or diy. Quick detach guard would be great. Love your work.

Thanks for this channel! The first time I used a table saw I had kickback. A piece of wood flew past me and put a dent in a bench. Luckily one video I saw long before I bought the saw said to keep your body from the line of 'fire'. Still am very fearful of this tool and approach it with caution. Another helpful advice I found is to plan ahead; what if x happens?

I am a novice woodworker and I choose to not use my blade guard/splitter. My tablesaw is a ridgid ts3650. A full cast iron contractor style saw with the motor outside the frame. For anyone not familiar with that saw, the guard and splitter attach to the motor mount outside the saw. It's not part of the bearing block, it's externally mounted. That makes it extremely difficult for even some through cuts as it needs to be aligned to the blade and the way its mounted means it can be tilted. I also use many styles of blades including dado, I do a ton of non-through cuts and use my sled for many operations. 90% of the cuts I make the guard and splitter are just completely incompatible with. I understand and respect that safety limitation. My solution is to always have the blade set st an appropriate height. Use push sticks whenever possible. I use long reach ones. And a featherboard for dado cuts or certain rip cuts. Also I never stand directly behind the blade. I always avoid putting myself and the saw in a position where I make a dangerous cut that results in a injury. I think another huge safety thats overlooked is the throat plate. I have a factory zero clearance that was available for my saw. Zero clearance plates are more safe when doing thin rips or thin crosscuts. The piece cant fall in the blade and potentially get kicked back. And you wont be tempted to fish a piece out if its running. Making them for bevel cuts is the same reasons. My worst kickback was from a jobsite saw that didnt have a plate. I tried to move a small piece away from the blade before it could fall in and cause a kickback and thats exactly what happened

I wrote a comment on the previous video describing how I fully intended to use a blade guard when I purchased my table saw (20+ years ago), but that the frustration and time involved has discouraged me from doing so. Well, shortly after, I decided to bite the bullet and do what I should have done years ago: I bought a Shark Guard after-market blade guard and splitter assembly. I haven't tried it yet (it arrives tomorrow), but I look forward to once again having safeguards in place to hopefully prevent future disasters.

Hi, you just popped up on my for you page for the first time and I must say I laughed. Why? My father, grandfather, and father-in-law ALL lost fingers on their table saws. In the case of my dad, the doctors managed to sew them back on. Today, when I use any type of saw, I am extra careful! I do not want to keep this "family tradition" going! (I should add, my great-grandfather lost his leg to a sawmill accident!!!) People who think table saws are safe enough have never seen what they can actually do to flesh.

@StumpyNubs

26 күн бұрын

I definitely don't think table saws are "safe enough."

Hey mate, I really appreciate the effort you're putting into the woodworking community, your videos have been an amazing resource for me over the last few years, thank you. I'd also like to say that I'd be very interested in options for better blade guards on smaller saws. I'm currently running a milwaukee jobsite saw that spends a bit over half its time in a larger bench but also still goes out for field work, the "guard shaped device" that comes with it is absolutely useless (and unfortunately rarely gets used) but one thing that particular saw does well is that it is so easy to change the guard for the riving knife, or theoretically other accessories with the same attachment. A better guard for that system would be an absolute game changer. Thanks again for being a positive (and funny) contributor to this amazing craft. Cheers Aaron

Having worked in a cabinet makers & bench joinery workshops for years I can definitely tell you that experienced people get cut all the time. And it’s usually through rushing to either get a job done quick or because they’re not supposed to be using the machine for personal reasons. Good video. 👍

Great idea to look into the aftermarket. Me like a ton of others I have a craftsman 113. Mine came from my father. When I passed and cleaning out his garage I took it. I love using it. Was planning an upgrade to the fence and a link built and maybe some of the nice billet pulleys that are available. No guard was found. Might have actually been in there, I don't know. I have a micro jig splitter, but have not installed. I would love an actual riving knife. It's a nice saw other than the fence. Heavy cast iron with cast wings. I have thought hard about a sawstop for sure. I might end up with one. Some options and reviews would be great! Many are in my same boat.

Thank you for having this conversation again. So when are we going to see a review of the Big Eye fence?

@StumpyNubs

21 күн бұрын

I already did. Did you miss it?

The most important safety appliance is that one that is supposed to be located between one’s ears. Either you are properly taught how to “work safe”, and then responsibly proceed to do so, or you are/do not. I’m 74 and have been using table saws and radial arm saws (up to 20” diameter) for 60 years (after I was first taught the responsible and careful use thereof by my father). I’ve been using worm-drive skilsaws for 58 years (once again, after I was taught the responsible and careful use thereof by my father). Similarly, my younger brother was taught in the same manner when he reached the ages of 14 years and 16 years, respectively. We were taught to always remain “scared and respectful” of what those tools are capable of whenever one’s attention to safe operation is allowed to wander and those tools then used in a negligent manner. At the same time, we were also taught how to cross-cut, rip, dado, rabbet, and bevel in a cost-competitive, high-production mode. To this day, none of us nor anyone who ever worked for/under us has ever suffered an injury while using those pieces of equipment in either shop or field job site working environments. The SawStop technology is really pretty remarkable. My objection is not toward the technology which I applaud, but rather towards the mindless government bureaucrats who really have no idea of the manner in which inherently unsafe jobs are actually made safe and productive (and thus cost-competitive and hence economically valuable) by those who perform them on a daily basis. Nor are those same mindless bureaucrats capable of working a blue collar job where earning a living is dependent upon the individual taking self-responsibility for workplace safety for one’s self and those around him. I would like to see the SawStop technology adopted by the private sector and then allow private industry to competitively work to lower the cost to the consumer. At the same time, one other “safety” power appliance that I would really like to see more widely-adapted/used on lower-end table saws, is the powered stock feeder. Granted, those of us who are mechanically inclined can presently purchase a lower-end power feeder for about the same cost as a lower-end table saw, and then rig-up a suitable mounting, but not everyone is thus capable or inclined. What I really want is for the “marketplace” comprised of private enterprise and the consumer to develop and adopt the best equipment and not some mindless bureaucrat attempting to shove his/her personal misconceptions and agenda up our posteriors.

I appreciate the topics and information covered on this channel. Keep up the good work. I have NEVER used a blade guard and based on these two related videos I am going to reinstall it before next use

Yes! Please help with usable guards for saws that came with clumsy poor fitting ones like my Delta Contractor saw. I do want to have a guard/riving knife that works.

In our commercial production shop, we have two tables saws. 1) 3 hp 220v Delta 2) Saw Stop. My son loves the Saw Stop. Me, the old man, not so much. We build custom sets and use all kinds of materials. One material we use often is a composite panel material used in the sign industry - Aluminum clad PVC. Those who know, know. The electrical difference immediately triggered the Saw Stop. There goes another $100, sigh. We use both. But for some things, the old Delta is the only way to go.

I saw the ad in the previous video and I was more concerned about the lack of a riving knife. That said, it didn't change my view that you are a great asset to the woodworking community.