Great advice, thanks for sharing, we will get a whale pump as had all the problems you had and are fed up with reattaching the jubilee clip after all our water spewed out!

Fantastic advice Dan. I didn’t even realise this design of pump existed. I’ve experienced exactly the same issues as you over the last 12 months with the Truma pump, so I bought the Whale after seeing this and what a difference it makes! I can stand my barrel upright now and no longer have to fill it up three times a day, despite it already being half full of water! Thanks again for the great tip.

Another great Video! Thank goodness ive had Bailey caravans with the Whale pumps for the last 5 years. Prior to that i had a new Lunar Quasar with the Truma pistol grip pump, absolutely horrid! I always remember the pistol grip part kept coming apart. So now you have a UK company showing the Germans the correct way to make their own pumps!

OMG thank you for this video, I've been at my whits end with my trauma pump. Dan you are a god, I'm on my second pump in 3 months as I thought the leaking was an issue with the individual unit, not the actual design. I had no idea you could change the brand of pump, naively I thought they were specific to the make of caravan. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Excellent idea. Didn't realise that the fittings are the same. Have had problems with our truma pump, so will give it a go. Thanks

@TheTrudgians

6 жыл бұрын

No problems.

Wow! When I first saw this video, I wondered how anyone could talk about these pumps for 6 minutes. But what a brilliant, detailed, and clear review! I'm very impressed, and my motorhome doesn't even use one of these external pumps!! :-D But I'll certainly be checking out your other videos now. Thanks.

Hi Dan I found the truma difficult to locate and the grip constantly falling apart. Took your advice and got a whale WOW what a difference, better flow and soooo much quieter many thanks keep up the good work

We have exactly the same problem Dan. Thanks for the great advice. We'll go Whale when we've had enough of Truma.

Thanks for that we are always having pump trouble and go through so many, will take a look at that one..

Hi Dan, finally gave up with Truma & did the Whale Swap. Simple as! Works great. Thanks for the tip.

Brilliant! First time out with our recently purchased Sterling last weekend and we had a nightmare with the Truma pump. It had clearly been rolled fairly tightly by the previous owner, had a couple of nasty kinks so the flow was very slow, and was so inflexible that it kept rolling itself up out of the water in the aquaroll. It had worked ok on a warm September day when tested in our garden, but a cold November day on site was a different matter. A quick search on the 'net brought up your video and I'm delighted to find that whale have produced a better alternative. Mine's on order, I'm confident the air will be less blue next time out.

Thanks Dan this is really useful. We too have a Lunar Clubman and we are away in Cornwall on our holiday. Arrived yesterday and the b****y Truma pump played up right from the off. Then we had a water leak under one of the beds so not using our system at present. I have had all of the issues you have mentioned and have also been fed up with it.Was going to buy another pump now it will be a Whale. Thanks for the info 😁

At last! a quick easy explanation, thanks Dan, saved me loads of research!.

Another great video Dan and fantastic support for a great Northern Ireland company like Whale. Their customer service should you need to use it, is second to none. We have the Whale heating system on our Bailey and its great. We have had one issue with it whilst on holiday, they even sent their Managing Director to our caravan site to fix it for us, but luckily their phone engineer fixed it before he got there and the Manager Director was turned back.

Huge difference in these two items, the Whale pump looks so better made!

Thanks for this very useful video! I had a whale-pump from the start but accidentally had it run dry (which happens quite easily). I replaced it with a comet pump which basically looks the same and was a little cheaper plus it has a 30min dry run capability. But I keep forgetting to turn the pump off in the van before I drive away in the car to get the aqua roll filled. There is much danger in damaging the pump again, so overall I'm not too happy about this design.

Thank you so much! I thought it was just me that had this problem. My Dad, an experienced caravanner thought I was daft!

The submersible pump that came with our 2006 caravan, Truma Trauma, was a pathetic dribble. Les, bent my ear about it on several occasions. So I did some homework and bought a Whale. What a difference, I have carried the original for a few months in case there was a problem but the next trip will be a pump lighter.

Dan, this is exactly the video I needed right now! Going off now to buy the Whale as I absolutely hate the Truma one. Causing me no end of issues. Thanks so much

You must have read my mind. Exactly the same problem with my Quasar/Truma setup. I've been trying to solve this for a while. Will look into the Whale equivalent. Cheers.

@TheTrudgians

6 жыл бұрын

Happy to help

Thanks Dan . Great advice. My Truma pump has now been relocated to bin !

@morleycrabbe193

5 жыл бұрын

You can get everything on Amazon

Another great, useful and informative vlog Dan. Looks a great product, thanks for sharing 👍🏻

We bought one of these about a year ago on the advice of the good folk at Jackson's of Old Arley when we had to replace the inlet plate. Much better product, it's much more flexible than the Truman one which always felt ready to break. Does seem to suffer more from airlocks though when swapping barrels.

@TheTrudgians

6 жыл бұрын

ah, thats a good point, Thanks for sharing ! Hope you are well Dan

Certainly very useful Dan. We currently have a Trauma, and have noticed how stiff it is and everytime I refill the Aquaroll it has to be removed and refitted again. The Whale looks a much better design. Looks like you've helped me spend money again, although for a beneficial reason! Best wishes to you all.

@TheTrudgians

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you Simon, Glad its helped. Take care Dan

Great video and advice. I have had a terrible time with our Trauma pump.

Nice informative tip Dan, a year before we buy but it is on ze list! Thinking of getting the accessories as they appear on offer on t’internet.

I was convinced that the pump was inside the caravan and it was just a filter that sat in the aquaroll....your videos are amazing, saying that...i now have umpteen jobs to do at the weekend lol...water-pipe cleaning...gas-level checks...battery checks, although it does have a solar panel on the roof....damp-checks, have purchased a meter and will put it to good use :-) I have apps to download too, and also workout how our virgin media can transmit the F1 races to the smart tv....it's supposed to be a "weekend break" lol...

Good vid Dan ,been there done that ,got fed up of reconnecting hose ,you would think the makers would see this problem ,anyway was looking around spares shop and saw a flexible double hose right length ,fitted same ,works perfect nice and flexible,will look at whale as my pump is getting a bit noisey

Oh Dan you need to think outside the box! Get a spade dig a hole drop in the aquaroll and hey presto problem solved!

Watching this video and found myself thinking yes me too, and again, and again. Ordering a whale pump for that hassle free ease of use. Thank you for the video, most useful

Thanks for that. I have had the same problem so will give this a try.

Been having the same issues. We're on site at the moment and I have actually broken the clip trying to get it to latch to the van. Like you say it's just too flimsy. Didn't realise I could change the pump, next on the list !!

Hi, thank you for your advice on the whale pump v the Truma - I have had the same problems so I will be going for the Whalke next time

Huge thanks for this Dan, I've been struggling to work out which Whale Pump model replaces that Ultraflow. We've been away twice now in our new caravan and I'm not a fan of the Truma pump so have been looking for a replacement.

Always great info from you Dan. Thanks!!

@TheTrudgians

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you !

@redsreds6598

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheTrudgians Ok mate wonder if you could help please. I have got a bailey 2006 caravan. I am a complete novice to caravaning the problem I have is the pump is not turning off. It runs all the time even when all Taps are closed what could this be would I have to change the blue pump which plugs from van & sits in water butt. Any advice would be great thanks mate

Just upgraded my old van to the ultra flow system and decided to buy the whale pp off the back of this video. Brilliant advice

@TheTrudgians

Жыл бұрын

Excellent. FYI - I’m still using this very same pump now, even when I thought I broke it, it was just a corroded terminal on the caravan. - so they do last!

@user-ll2vs8yv5k

Жыл бұрын

That's brilliant. Thank you for the video. 👍🏻

Couldn't agree more with the issues with the Truma pump, it's a real pain when you're on an uneven pitch. I don't know about you, but I feel the water pressure is very low with it too. It's annoying to have to buy a different pump to solve this issue though, more expense.... Great video as usual!

1st time to your YT channel, but I have to say, that was excellent. Excellent video and audio quality and content VERY well explained. Will check out your other videos and will probably subscribe on the basis of this one. Regards Mark in the UK

Same problem here, didn't knew about this whale solution. I changed the Truma hose by a sillicon protection hose and a sillicon innertube. I have the impression that this will work fine. No force to the connector, no bends.

Thanks for the info, you had the exact problems I'm faced with

Hi Dan. I agree. The Whale is a much better pump assembly all round. It is a bit longer than the Truma as well so suits more situations. Steve.

@TheTrudgians

6 жыл бұрын

Hi Steve, yes thats a good point also. Take care Dan

someone should let Truma engineers know ... amazed they can't work this our for themselves. Great video

Brilliant. My problem solved. Thank you so much.

Thanks Dan, lots of helpful advice.

@TheTrudgians

6 жыл бұрын

No problem, glad to be of service Dan

Well done dan the man. I like truma products and the company they are very professional and great at design....... however when we got our 2015 Lunar it came with a truma outboard pump and wed only used whale in all our previous vans. What an under whelming experience with exactly thr issues you said. So as ever brill video. More power to your elbow

@TheTrudgians

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you John. Take care Dan

Hi thank you for sharing this video I’ve been having this problem and broke the pipe today I will be ordering the whale 👍🙏

Just changed over to Whale and what a difference - I would not revert back to the Trumar pump which always was a nightmare

hi dan great review lots of usefull info for future reference thanks

Good useful info. Thank you.

Very useful video. Do the caravan indicators and pump auto-stop still work as they should if you use a Whale as opposed to a Truma?

Love to know how to fit this setup to my system. If I need to keep my old system and add this to it or is there a way of using both together. Have a hobby kmfe 650 2017 with 50lt water tank. What would I need and how I could connect it.

That's brilliant

Quick question - do you hook up the pump when refilling without removing from van - and have you had any air locks / issues with this? I always used to remove the Truma pump completely - but this Whale option seems to encourage not bothering? cheers

Great product review! I didn't know that Whale did a Truma fitting but now I do I will be getting one for next season. The truma pump is glued on to the pipe which meant I could not replace it with a generic pump when I had an issue a while ago. Is the Whale one the same, or is there just a jubilee clip?

Get rid of the Aqua roll all together. Just buy the Truma Ultraflow Waterline that runs straight to tap. Saying that, the Truma Pumps are very tinny and it did leak a bit even when it was brand new when I first used it. Every time you unplugged it, it felt like it was going to break apart.

Spot on thanks

Hi Dan , any tip on getting the air out of the Truman pump when setting up . Thanks Jason

thanks dan thats my problem sorted

Hi Dan. Another great video. Just purchased our first van and found your content invaluable. Quick question about this... Do you find you still have a fair amount of water in the barrel when the pump is not able to draw water?? Any tips to get the most out of the barrel?? Get the most pipe in??? Just enough to touch the bottom?? Tia. Andy

Useful video.thanks We have the Truma system but our problem is different, namely, the system does not shut off when pressure is reached. perhaps a video highlighting the problem and the remedy?

It does always feel like it may break. But I just unplug the pump from socket Then lift from barrel Refill barrel Pump into barrel then its a straight run to plug back in. When my truma pump does break I will take your advice and purchase the whale equivilant. Cheers

@30bren

3 жыл бұрын

That's what I thought. Pretty simple really 🤣

@30bren

3 жыл бұрын

Would make the video too short though 😜

useful practical stuff

Hi Dan. I really like all your videos there all really interesting. I have a question can these whale pumps still be used if the caravan has an onboard pump . I currently use a truma pipe so I have a plug on one end and just a filter on the other end.

Hi Dan just taken your advice and upgraded to the whale pump, not able to test it yet due to our van being in for shower repair. I am thinking about the fix for the pump turning up in the water container.

Hi Dan, I hope that you are well. We have on our Lunar the Truma ultraflow system. I used it for the first time since fitting a new inlet due to the old one cracking, I had the problem of the handle getting stuck and needing to be prised out with my multi tool. Have you come across this problem and if you have , how did you solve it? Cheers Richard.

Thanks for this.

Can i use this whale external pump when i have an internal pump in the caravan? not sure new to caravaning its a new 2019 Sprite Alpine 4. Thank you Dan

Dan thanks for this. I do have a couple of Q's though - I presume the pump needs power - where does it get this from? I have a new 2017 swift conqueror. It came without a pump just the truma filter lead & so im guessing this pump/filter wont effect the onboard one?

@TheTrudgians

6 жыл бұрын

Hi Steve, Okay it might be best to check what you have in your van. These are submersible pumps that take the poor from the connection on the side of the caravan, it sounds like you have an inboard pump. You can call Whale and check what they have for you in terms of upgrading. I hope that helps. Dan

Very interesting, thankyou. Just about to purchase my first second hand 2 berth caravan and find your videos invaluable as I'm a complete novice.

Hi, I have just changed my Caravan, I now have a Compass Corona 505. I appear to be using a lot more water in this van compared to the Elddis Riviera 482 I used to have. They both had the Truma water heating System. The problem I have is the heater over flow is constantly dripping, sometimes quite rapidly when the hot tap is open. Is there anything I can do to stop the Leak Please.

Hi Dan - I followed your lead and swapped water pumps and there has been a positive difference. However, it still float up in the aquaria. So, having looked at your recent video on 'The Aquaroll' I noted your comment on the 'Pump Connection' which holds the pump at the bottom of the container. So I bought one. I think you know what comes next - how do you use it? Do I have to disconnect the pump from the hose and electrics and thread it through then re-connect? Or have I just lost the plot!! Your advise would be very much appreciated. Trust you and your family are well and well have good times away this summer. Cheers. Mike

A easy fix if your confident and a bodger. I would shorten both inlet and wiring to pump connector inlet so it wont bend to the extent of breaking or and leave enough to fit in to aqua roll.

Hi Dan. First timer here with a Lunar Ultima 2015. I have the Truma Ultraflow, which came with the van. Stored in the sink bowl, it has several kinks, problem one, and lifts in the aquaroll so sometimes it's running dry, and it's sheer luck I hear it and rush out to dip it into the water. Will the whale model here replace this one? If so, I'll get one and keep the truma for a spare. Thanks so much for your advice. Les

Have a chat with your local roofer, ask them for a small sheet of lead and wrap it round the pump head. The weight will keep it down at the bottom where it belongs. Keep it tight with plastic pull through tie.

@TheTrudgians

4 жыл бұрын

Lead? in fresh water? nope. To keep it down, just use a straight section of plastic pipe, split down one side. that will hold the pump straight facing the bottom of the Aquaroll.

Hi can you do a video on noisy internal pumps. We have a 2009 Buccaneer Caravel and the pumps are very noisy I can’t find a Uk video on quietening then down or a quite replacement.

Hi very informative video. I have an older caravan, our first van. The water inlet is broken. There is a hair line crack inside the van. It's a cascade. Do you know if I can convert it to a whale?

Another great Vlogg again Dan. Can i ask you your Truma Ultraflow had the pump on the end, My Truma has a filter with a onboard pump is there a Whale adaptor for that one? been on to Whale website and it is a little confusing for me.

Hi thanks for your superb video, I've got a Sterling Eccles Ruby that has an internal Flojet pump which is turned on or off by a switch on the control panel inside, does this pump just turn on by itself? cheers

Nice one anyone got any good ideas to stop the noisy pumps that creates vibration through the swift caravan

Wished I'd seen this video earlier as we had this problem recently when we ran out of water at Burford (just after dark!). Re-filled the Aqua Roll and when connected with the Truma pump got drenched when the pipe connector had come off inside the pump connector at the caravan end. As a result got drenched , cut finger and sweaing trying to get the offending Truma clip back onto the pipe once back inside the caravan iwhere there was some light Ended up repairing with a s/steel jubilee clip and some electrical tape to stop the jubilee clip touching the spade connectors. My brother had the same problem with his coming off too. Anyone who hasnt replaced their Truma pump might want to do this fix before it happens to them. Now thanks to Dans vids off fix the loo warning light and make some LED awning lights.

Thankyou 'The Trudgians' - like many others I've been having problems with the Truma for 2 years, way too stiff, won't turn into the Aquaroll due to the height issue and keeps blowing the hose end off! thought it was just me, like you I also had problems turning the aquaroll on its side, not least (without realising) the top cap leaks so on its side all the water slowly drains out. Also felt I was going to break the damned thing every time I connected it. So many times I've had to stand outside pressing down on the hose in order for the thing to unkink so we can have water! - excellent review on your experience, thank you for sharing .. I can see light at the end of the tunnel and water emerging the taps!!! .. just one last thing! is the flow volume from the Whale a match for the Truma?

@TheTrudgians

6 жыл бұрын

Stuart Lawson hi Stuart - glad to have helped. No the flow rate isn’t the same. It’s far far greater. It really is light & day. Also after months of usage I must add that initial priming and air locks are now also vastly improved. Hope that helps.

@stuartlawson8128

6 жыл бұрын

It sure does! Thanks again .. just bought the Whale from Amazon!

Have had issues with the Trauma (as you have) and do not like the design at all so going for a Whale. Do you have any advice for adjusting the pressure to avoid all the pump noise? Or did the Whale pump sort this? One guy said the pumps are supposed to over-run for a few seconds after you switch a tap off to pressurize?

Just a minor point is that the trauma (spell checked changed it from Truma to trauma which is ironic) does actually have a similar clip to hold the pipe whilst you’re refilling. It’s the little blue clip on top of I remember correctly. Having said that you are entirely correct in that it is a dreadful design for all the reasons you pointed out. Wish I’d known that whale made that alternative but I have whale now anyway as changed van.

Sorry, sent that too early. What I was going to say was, I appear to have the Truma Ultraflow fitted but I cannot tell if it is the standard one, the compact or the winter. It is a bit confusing. What I WANT to do is fit a filter system so I was looking at the conversion kits for the Ultraflow. The trouble is I don't really know what I have now so I don't know if there is a replacement and , if there is, what one to go for. My aim is to filter the water coming into the caravan. It is potable water but I want to take out the taste and particulates. I really cannot work out where I am now and if there is a suitable solution. Any ideas? Ray

If your like me and wondering does this pump make any difference to the water pressure in the van compared to the truma pump. Then read no further...it does...infact it’s like a power shower now compared to the once pitiful excuse of a shower produced by the truma pump. Purchased and tested this week.

We are caravan newbies; We have Truma Ultraflow, no filter + Water Hog Tank; Blue cap on pipe is too small for the water hog threaded outlet so we either need to get an acquaroll that fits the Truma pump etc or a Whale pump that fits the water hog...can you advise us? Also it strikes us that if you are on a serviced pitch with mains water, the Truma Ultraflow can take that flow without needing the pump to operate...We have a 2013 Eccles Sport 442

Hi can you please tell me how would you clean the food grade water pipe that you use on a serviced pitch ???

Nice info, do you know if whale do a hose kit for a serviced site for the ultraflow?

@TheTrudgians

6 жыл бұрын

Hi yes there is - have a look at this, it includes an adaptor for the Truma Ultra Flow systems. amzn.to/2mm0Att

Hi , would you have any ideas on how to free the impeller, only used twice and it’s seized.

Hi Dan, We have the Truma pistol grip thingy but no pump on the end, the pump is onboard. Same issue though its a pig to fit or remove, the whole fitting on the 'van side flexes and I'm sure it'll shatter in cold weather. Do Whale do a version to replace the Truma jobby i.e. pistiol grip and hose but no pump? Buying the part you show for c£50 then cutting off the pump would be a bit steep.

Great video Dan, have you noticed an increase in flow with this new pump?

@TheTrudgians

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, we did. but we put this down to no kink in the pipe, but one thing Mrs T did note was the flow didn't drop off which the Truma pump tended to do, if running a tap for a while. Hope that helps D

Hi, we have a bailey grande pegasus rimimi used last year fine great water pressure, this year water pressure is very very low. The pump pipe was kinked and i have had to fix the metal clips back on as one came off on this pump. Do you think this will be causing such low water pressure? Thanks

Why doesn't the truma ultraflow pump fit into the barrel. Do you have to have a specific water barrel for these pumps the opening on the top is too small to put it in ??

my caravan has a Whale water system and I can say that I have had no problem with it ,but can't compare with other makes as I have only ever had whale.

Hi we also have had issues with the brand new external Truma ultraflow pump coming apart so we took your advice and upgraded to the whale pump you suggested. Unfortunately this pump is blowing the fuse every time we connect it. Have you any suggestions?

@TheTrudgians

5 жыл бұрын

Hi Susan, Oh dear - that doesn't sound good. perhaps you have a faulty unit. I would recommend you exchange it, it certainly shouldn't be blowing fuses - it pulls very little current, so for a fuse blow i would think it is either jammed or faulty. I recommend a replacement. Hope that helps Dan

Do you find the whale gives better water pressure ? I have the truma and find the pressure disappointing. Great videos BTW

@TheTrudgians

6 жыл бұрын

Morning, Yes the flow was a marked improvement. I did initially put this down to the pipe not being kinked when inserted into the aqua roll. Dan

Hi Dan, we have a Coachman 575/4 7 years old with Truma system. Have bought a Whale pump to replace our Truma one. The Whale pump will not work though the Truma one does. Is our van and Truma smart switch programmed to only work with Truma pumps ? Many thanks Brenda

2006 Elldis crusader 2+2 with carva water system pump working but not when you plug it in turn the tap on and green light underneath the switch comes on but still won't operate the pump

Hi did you get more pressure in the shower with the upgraded whale pump

Yep gotta agree, the whale pump is loads better