I find that the classic models have more a statuesque pose, most likely due to technical limitations but I really much prefer this look, as well. When the arms and weapons are held out in the poses, it's much simpler to clip and customize them and the READABILITY and cohesiveness of your entire army looks so much better when you have a whole unit of guys. The problem I have with the modern range of WH stuff is how almost every unit is in some dynamic heroic pose, jumping through air, tiptoeing on a spent shell casing etc. and this makes your army look like a group of collectible figurines.

@TheSorrowOfTheReaper

2 жыл бұрын

It also sucks when you want to paint your minis and half your guys hold their guns across their chest so fully painting them becomes much, much harder unless you do some fancy assembly acrobatics.

@JEKAZOL

2 жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more. A marine standing alert with a weapon is potential for imagination in the game. A marine firing a grapple hook or throwing a grenade on one foot is just that only. Digital sculpting will only make the models look like a computer game come to life.

@hideshisface1886

2 жыл бұрын

That also depends on model, there are some older models that have better poses than modern ones. Good example are daemonettes - modern daemonettes are insanely static in their poses - pretty much all just... standing there with pincers up, they look clunky and fail to convey this strange elegance typically associated with them. Newer models featuring daemonettes largely rectify this, like infernal enrapturess, or contorted epitome, but still, the troops stand out here, not in a good way, especially when compared to classic ones. For some armies, very dynamic poses make sense, like Slaaneshi demons, or certain Eldar troops. Others, like Necrons or certain Guard regiments work very well with more static poses.

@tsm688

2 жыл бұрын

uh, sir in what way were they ever *not* collectible figurines?

@flintlockbeithir4823

Жыл бұрын

@@tsm688 i think he means like the anime statues a better way to phrase it would be the newer models all seem to want to be the centre of attention in both pose and detail leading to the armys looking like a disjointed mess

Eldar players when they can't even get new models to compare to lol

@lazerhosen

2 жыл бұрын

Meh, some of the best sculpts in 40k history, but do need the update love

@Timearkgameing

2 жыл бұрын

@@lazerhosen this

@emile1365

2 жыл бұрын

@@lazerhosen Based take.

I love the range of Warlocks and Farseers throughout the ages.

@EonsOfBattle

2 жыл бұрын

throughout the ages but they are all still the current sculpt

@oliverp3545

2 жыл бұрын

@@EonsOfBattle theres been quite a few variants of them ever since Rogue Trader. Currently GW still sell 2 variants of Farseer and 4 Warlocks (excluding bikes), throughout the time there has been 8 Farseer and 10 Warlock models (to my knowledge) and they are all really nice and I'm happy to own a large chunk of that.

If I'm generalizing, I'll say I like retro models more than modern. Modern models tend to get too busy. The retro hand-sculpted look is one that I find endearing. Retro sculpts also usually lend themselves to bright color schemes which I'm partial to. Realistically, though, modern and classic both have a place on my shelf. They're both great.

@historypunkwargames4760

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed, I love the perry Brothers that used to work for games work shop and there the only metal sculptures that I'm willing to pay the uk shipping fee for (:

The Eldar at 1:53 are still great and I'll fight anyone who disagrees.

@geirgilath

2 жыл бұрын

I hit the comments at 1:54 to make sure this comment existed already.

@Messermarkmauritz

2 жыл бұрын

Disagrees

@moogiibat5845

2 жыл бұрын

I'll back you up.

@ArmandDupin

2 жыл бұрын

Most of those models look freaking awesome. Dunno what Eons' issue with them is.

@viktordickinson7844

2 жыл бұрын

Same. Got actually mad when he just showed the whole eldar HQ setup as "bad models"

I'm a new painter but I find myself liking old GW models (sometimes). They're much simpler and more cartoony than the new stuff, which I tend to like. The new stuff definitely espouses grimdark better, but the old stuff has such a nice charm to it. The old orks are great.

@Arbbal

2 жыл бұрын

Grim dark, is part of the tag line for the product. Until recently it wasn't a descriptor of the ascetic, and was never meant to be.

I think the new models are incredible, but less fun to paint. I love painting older models, the new ones are often tedious to paint because there’s almost too much detail.

@jonathangagne88

2 жыл бұрын

You are right ! The dynamic poses are great but having to subassembly to reach those almost hidden details isn't as fun as the good old models.

@Marthe535

2 жыл бұрын

I like the detail but i paint T’au so i don’t speak for everybody

@varisware

Жыл бұрын

This 1000000000000000000000000%

@cameronconnery2080

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. They’re scaled up as well, which doesn’t make them “easier to paint” like some noobs believe- because “bigger is easier” right? No, it makes them harder and more tedious because they’re huge and crammed full for tiny computer generated detail in very difficult to reach places, unlike hand sculpted models.

@OGXenos

10 ай бұрын

@@cameronconnery2080 Honestly it sounds more like you're the noob projecting because they can't handle macro-details on a model and prefer simpler models where your lack of ability isn't as glaring.

Dude Chaos Pumba is one of the most hilarious and therefore great models ever created!

@flintlockbeithir4823

Жыл бұрын

agreed

Old - "This is a Gargoyle." New - "You can't even tell what this is."

@lazerhosen

2 жыл бұрын

Brode-sode!

@josephskiles

2 жыл бұрын

That video gets better Everytime I watch it

@lazerhosen

2 жыл бұрын

@@josephskiles I binged all his videos after I saw it. Great stuff.

@josephskiles

2 жыл бұрын

@@lazerhosen yeah his necromunda review was awesome as well

The '90s aesthetic was charming in its simplicity and it's being clearly representational rather than realistic. It fit the frivolous, fantasy setting better. Of course, this was before GW went corporate and started taking itself seriously.

I like scattering a few older models in with my newer ones, specifically with my guard. Gives the illusion that some of the troops are hard core veterans who've been there for the long campaign while other guys are new with shiny army.

03:01 TRIGGERED

@Josh24861

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Very much.

@EonsOfBattle

2 жыл бұрын

Search your feelings, you know it to be true

Its a hard choice, but the best thing about it? We don't have to make it! Go with whatever catches your eye the most! Old? New? It doesn't matter as long as you're having fun with it.

The little viles aren't poison, I can't remember the exact wording but in the genestealer codex it talks about them being some pheromones or something that radiates to close by hybrids. to keep them in "frenzy of war" mayb?

@peterburner6486

2 жыл бұрын

Vials were said to contain the same gene changing liquids contained in a purestrain's ovipositor...allowing hybrids to currupt their opponents.

@lazyvipurr4698

Жыл бұрын

Correct.

I really love your relentless positivity and attitude in these videos. More than the content, they are what makes me keep coming back.

@EonsOfBattle

2 жыл бұрын

and there is plenty more where this came from!

@FkRoP

2 жыл бұрын

That's why this is the first painting channel I subscribed to. Just what we need in 2021 🙂👍

Genesteal cult magus looks kind of like a Klingon, and I love it.

Cutting off the tad on classic models is like cutting off the Spirit of Ecstasy from a Rolls Royce. Go buy an old model and feel the grimace when you see those tabless models. Watch yourself pay double for the cleaned ones with tabs because you know it's not a recast and you don't need to worry about if the paint will come off. Watch all those tabless eBay listings sit unloved. Embrace the tab. That is the makers mark.

Including the Eldar, dragon and Ragnar in a montage of “bad” models is seriously fighting words.

@lazerhosen

2 жыл бұрын

I've always thought Ragnar was a dumb model... always looked stumpy.

I have a space marine tank army of mostly classic tanks, I prefer the og predator over the newer one for sure.

@tomburden5935

2 жыл бұрын

OG Rogue Trader Rhino hull all the way.

The only old sculpt that I can think of that I prefer over the new sculpt is Typhus. Everything else in plastic is a clear upgrade for me.

@Is_This_Really_Necessary

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@kglguy

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, old Typhus had such a great pose and design.

Personally, I love the weight of the metal miniatures in my hand. I constantly find myself putting clay in the voids, and adding weight to the bases.

@landgin3781

2 жыл бұрын

@Lucien Swift the my also break, and melt. Forheworld resin the worst. Broke in the package or wrapped on delivery

@ScorpioDB

2 жыл бұрын

@@landgin3781 What hell on earth do you live that your plastic miniatures are melting? :D

@landgin3781

2 жыл бұрын

@@ScorpioDB laredo

1:53 hey now those Eldar and the boar look great today.

I tried out your rail-into-peg technique the other night with some old Tau Stealth Suits and it worked like a charm! Thanks for adding a new trick to my arsenal.

Dunno why, but I do love that goofy Razorgor! 1:52 it looks like someone poked him with a hot iron and now he's stampeding like crazy 🤪

As someone who’s been playing since late Rogue Trader, I can say this: the new model are truly amazing! The detail, the character, the quality, is all top notch. That said, I think the loving of the older, here I’m thinking early to mid 90’s, models is all nostalgia. And I love that. I painted up some old Rogue Trader marines to use a scouts and I just love them. A big part of my Chaos marine date back 20 year and the are so cool. But that doesn’t take away from the quality of today. Cheers! 🖌

@OdaManjiro

2 жыл бұрын

I just got into 40k a year ago, but after I discovered the RT Chaos Renegades I couldn't go back to GW's modern sculpts for standard csm. The new definitely have more detailing, but I prefer the varied often Giger inspired look they used to have. They are fun to collect.

I started into WH and 40k in 1986, Im not into GW stuff anymore, but GW is not the only company using digital sculpting. I agree that it is a powerful tool and that it has improved the look of models overall. But I have a huge soft spot for the Rogue Trader era of figs. Cool video, thanks.

"He has a great attitude and I love his space backpack, buuuttt..." seems like telling a friend about a strange date.

I watch a lot of 40K content on KZread. I think you’re the best presenter out there. I watch your videos even if I’m not that interested in the content of that particular video.

Great content as always! Thank you!

Love that classic miniature and great paint job. Always like how upbeat and positive your videos are in a world of negativity. Keep it up

I took the lady magus and made her into an inquisitor using a salamanders brazier, power maul head, and a sister's of battle head

I do find a charm to older models, though modern stuff looks bloody good. And I'd agree lots of variety is nice. Honestly it's really nice that genestealer cults get a couple character options that can be kitbashed. As well as access to some guard gubbins. I just wish more armies had those extra options. So much choice potential for Aeldari (plus new kits for them), guard, chaos Marines etc I will also argue that the metal missionary with chainsword has one of GWs best faces. Because I want to be contraversial

i will say that i recently took the plunge and got a nice set of nippers, and what a godsend they have been. truly one of the best tools that i have purchased.

@EonsOfBattle

2 жыл бұрын

nippers are a must! I buy a new pair every year or two!

@sirrathersplendid4825

2 жыл бұрын

Toenail cutters also work well.

I have been wondering why my white ink has been splattering and now I know, thanks for mentioning that in the vid. I've been thinning it down as much as I would paint but I'll try more next time I airbrush

One thing to talk about after seeing the St. Celestine example - many new models are OVERsculpted. I'm painting them right now for a friend and it turns out sub assembly is almost a necessity and the rest of breaking them is real just while handling normally. Half-hidden detail on them is also incredibly annoying since it's just visible enough to need painting but hidden away enough to risk making mistakes. Let's not even talk about the in-between dark days of Finecast XD Honestly I can't see many newer gamers preferring the old stuff (nostalgia is a hell of a drug), but with GW's current pricing it's actually cheaper to try and buy old models quite often - especially in Australia!

@OdaManjiro

2 жыл бұрын

definitely

Awesome video, Jay! Thank you!

Wow, that reel of supposedly 'bad sculpts' actually includes some absolutely classic ones, like the Dialogus.

So glad i discovered your channel.

As an RT OG I never could shake my ingrained bias of plastic = 2nd class; metal = proper

I love new models, but I loooooove old ones. I want to see you paint the Lady Magus!

whoa whoa at 1:54. Am I alone in thinking that pretty much all of these sculpts are some of the best eldar sculpts ever made

I have recently transitioned to building a lot of dioramas and display pieces, I find the older metal models and older plastics that are no longer game scale appropriate are my favorite things to work with. I enjoy that the older sculpts are smaller so my builds are smaller but can be more expansive since I can fit more minis in the build and they take less time to paint. I think everything, even the old sculpts and "ugly" minis have a place... I maybe alone here but that old metal Nagash was a banger back in 1998 man...he was metal AF! Great video btw.... when do we get EOB merch?

New models are great, but there’s just something about old metal models that I love.

To my experience, it also helps to add flow improver, if you’re working with white. Sometimes maybe even a little drying retarder, depending on the humidity in the workspace. Also clean the nozzle more regularly.

You made an excellent point talking about Hand Sculpting vs Digital. The toolset is different, but the mindset, the process is all still the same. Regardless of which method you prefer, you still have to conceptualize, design, construct, add material, remove material. Its all the same. Digital just streamlines the process, it doesn't need as much space, you dont need tons of materials taking up space, you can undo and zoom in to add insane amounts of detail. I personally prefer hand scultping, I just love the feel of actual clay. However if I were to ever sculpt professionally, I'd go digital.

For the algorithm! For the channel! For the emperor

@Josh24861

2 жыл бұрын

Subscribe to eob

@EonsOfBattle

2 жыл бұрын

the algorithm is appeased!

I love all the GSC miniatures and yes that Magus is awesome one of the first models I painted. Do love the new magus... maguses... magi ... I do like the new models too though.

the miniatures can be used well together. only the size sometimes sets limits. I tend to like the old, more compact GW miniatures for my Projects.

A good model is a good model, regardless of when it was made.

@EonsOfBattle

2 жыл бұрын

exactly

I started to build & paint them from the late'80s, I liked these old models but the modern ones are easier to build and convert, with plastic you have infinite possibilities

I love the metal Catachan - and many of the old WHFB metal Dwarves. That being said: Look at the old Gyrocopter - those aweful evil propellers have been my bane - still a nice model though

It depends on the faction. For the Orks I prefer the newer models, but for the Tyranids I prefer many of the older ones. You just can't beat those Aliens inspired Hormaguants.

Oh God! You should see the old Battletech plastic hand-sculpts. It's hard to hide imperfection when everything is a machine.

Nostalgia is a powerful drug. I adore my 2nd & 3rd edition Orks. Looking at it critically it's because of the memories I have invested in those old chunks of metal & plastic.

3:44 Ahhhhh you havnt' tried the Tamiyas yet then! try them and I DARE you to say that again ;D

And they're only 1000x more expensive than the old ones! Win!

cant believe you put the last chancers in that hall of shame lineup you HEATHEN

What I like about old hand-sculpted minis (not just limited to GW) is that you can see a lot of the personality of the sculptor in them. In the case of a lot of Reaper minis, for instance, you can see which ones were made by who, and even roughly in what period of time. What I like about a lot of the new digitally sculpted models (especially GW, but the sculpts for Oathmark/Frostgrave/Stargrave have this too) is that they all have very much the same style. Stormcast Eternals and Chaos Warriors look different, but they have a same visual style. I doubt they were designed by the same sculptor, but they both follow the same art direction, which makes them look good when staring eachother down on the battlefield. You can see that they belong to the same game, whereas older hand-sculpted models don't always nicely match the same style.

IM SO EARLY! just woke up in the night sick and this is going to be the perfect video to ease me back to sleep, thanks Jay!

That old Nagash model is the very first GW model I ever bought, way back in the early 90´s, it’s not as awesome as the newer one, but I’ll never replace it. 😊

Old, the great days of rouge trader when you got 3 space marines in a blister pack, for 3 pounds (UK currency) Also the tanks were better. great detail for those days and i could get a Rhino and a predator for 11 pounds. Paper round money well spent.

Ngl was pretty excited about the goblin green base

You can hand sculpt and get the benefits of modern tech if you sculpt in a much larger form and then 3D Scan and scale the model digitally. You get the "pure" aspect of sculpting whilst getting much better detail as they sculpted at a larger scale to begin with. I don't mind either but for those who want to create in the old way. It is still possible whilst getting really good results.

A soft brass brush will take the fuzzy layer from pewter model and will improve the look and help paint from rubbing off the mini.

Nothing will ever beat my night goblin models from the early 90's that are giving their enemies the finger,I wish I had enough of them to make a whole unit of stab as out of!

Thanks for teaching me how to paint poison in bottles

@EonsOfBattle

2 жыл бұрын

anytime

I once bought second-hand plastic Eldar Dire Avengers from troll trader and no more. The person, who sold it there superglued unpainted model together and it was a nightmare to put it apart and impossible in few cases without breaking some parts of it. For those unfamiliar with Dire Avengers, it is one of those models that have weapons in front of the belly so you cannot paint the front of the model with the weapon in place. I bought 2 groups of five and half of them were with the wrong bases, (the superglued ones had 30mm instead of 25mm) so I had to remove them from bases. (All those destroyed feet I had to remodel...) By the way, this is not the fault of Troll Trader, they are an awesome place to buy second-hand models. I guess that person, who superglued it sold it there, because they probably could not paint it without breaking it apart and considered selling it there and buying new ones easier than breaking it apart and repairing it. And those superglued models were in discount at the Troll Trader, I now can guess why... From then I buy new plastic models only when I can buy them not-assembled. But since I buy mainly second-hand models, I started to prefer older one-part metallic models, which are much more durable and you do not need to take them apart to paint them.

Your example is exactly how I feel about older imperial guard metals compared to the newer plastics (especially some of the Commissar sculpts) The Commissar with the power fist that has his jacket off his arms and resting on the shoulders, it's one of my all-time favourite minis. I think the new Commissar doesn't even come close to how cool that mini is. Granted the new one is still a good mini, I just really like the older one a lot. It oozed personality, and there were a bunch of different ones as well that were completely different from one another. Now we have one design and that's it (there's a female one as well I think, but not sure if that's even available any more)

I see where you're coming from, and I do agree the newer models have a lot more detail and often look more "realistic", but... I love some of the older, goofier models, like the marauder dwarf slayers! Some of the older models (like Nagash and Ariel) were pretty bad, but for me the sweet spot was around 6-7th edition warhammer fantasy. I find them easier and more enjoyable to paint, and also (as many commenters have pointed out) easier to customise and kitbash. Edit: I didn't hear your conclusion before making this comment, and just wanted to change it to say I actually do 100% agree! XD Getting the minis we like, and having a variety in our collection, is definitely the best way to go! :)

There were also technical limitations when it came to old-school models. The limitations of mold engineering meant a lot of models were restricted to fairly two-dimensional poses. Multi-part plastic meant that the limit was theoretically obsolete, but it still took a while for the sculptors and engineers to discover the freedom the new technology offered. The new issue is that some sculpts go too far in the other direction and become too dynamic, which reduces the interchangeable nature of parts. In a sense, we've done a 360 and come back to mono-pose models.

01:53 - are you for real? LOL Those are amazing sculpts!

Magus not Magus

my favorite red is valjeo game color heavy red, most reds dull down and thats fine but they also dont darken as they dull like blues and greens, heavy red gets a shade darker as it dulls and on primes like yours it gets darker in the recesses and lighter on whites so its like free shading on red cloth

Love the channel, it would be nice to see some outer skin tones being painted.

i love your videos dude!

Though GW are now smashing it out of the park with plastic minis, I do miss the personal hand sculpted older ones. You could tell who did what as they all had an individual style. Back in the 90's the box even had the sculpter's name on it, and threw White Dwarf you "knew" them. I knew Jes Goodwin was going to amaze me and also knew a Gary Morley mini wasn't going to rock my world lol. It's impossible to name a sculpter based on a mini today, as they (although great) are clones of each other now, style wise.

The old models were better. They were easier to paint and better to play with. I built a new unit of Wraithblades and I am freaked out every time I touch them that an arm is going to snap off. Some of the old sculpts were trash, but so are some of the new ones. There was more good than bad. I miss metal figures.

@herculeholmes504

2 жыл бұрын

Not that I ever played, but I think the old 1980's and 1990's miniatures were better suited for the business of gaming because they were more compact. The first Warhammer 40K boxed game came with a set of Space Marines + Orks & Gretchins. they were poor sculpts (I especially never liked the weird position of the Orks' axes) but as playing pieces they ranked up easily, and were easily identifiable. something like the modern Sigmar Nighthaunt models look great, but they're prone to bits snapping off and much falling over.

@EcopiuM

2 жыл бұрын

Kek. Righto

@FkRoP

2 жыл бұрын

After making, painting and snapping a couple of bits of my Unmade warband, I 100% agree.

My favorite of the older metal minis are the "famous familiars" from Citadel-GW. They have no real rules anymore, but they're cool quirky little characters, half the height of a regular troop mini. Three personal highlights are the little homunculus on stilts, the moon headed guy with a can opener, and the hooded dude with carrying a pile of scrolls. No suggested paint schemes or army color guides, just paint whatever colors feel good that day. It's a tiny magical fiend, how can you go wrong? I think the old metals had a good balance of details without getting too "busy" with bling, and there are fewer areas hidden by layers of accessories. That said, the old metal Nagash was a freaking joke. We used to call him Silly-Hat-Nagash.

That old necron model wasnt an overlord, it was a necron lord. Which was the main HQ choice of the 3rd edition book.

How many times have I seen this video? Five? Seven? The beginning bit, about avoiding the denim speckles on the zenithal? I never noticed that before. I have been having a real problem with that. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

This one came out dope

I'll have you know old Nagash is absolute perfection. For all the wrong reasons, yes, but absolute perfection nevertheless! :P

Dude listen i live in the forest soo i tryed a cool idea... i do my bases with real plants for example i have a marine with a base like forest and even use a small branch to make it like a tree. that idea is hot as fuxk and have the feel that this kind of base (i know both of u love bases) with a really good paint job... really will be cool if u try Imaginating that u even read this comment

The new model looks like he's giving a big speach about how he and his dance group destroyed a squad of the Space Marines in an epic dance fight, while the old one looks like he's done with everything and just wants to go home

Kasrkin way better than Scions. Metal Grey Knights with belt fed storm bolters way batter than plastic.

@richtheunstable3359

2 жыл бұрын

Storm troopers are better than the kasrkin that are better than scions.

I love the old Metal Cult Minis!

+1 for Monument Hobbies!

I tend to mix old and new models for my games. The size creep of Warhammer 40k tend to give a variety of size and look that make it look like an army of different persons.

wow, our nippers are almost identical. My cheaper pair are the same as yours, only orange and black. My newer ones look almost the same as your newer ones as well (they look the same, might be a different brand. Mine are "Xuron" but the more expensive pair. Still a ton cheaper than God hands though, and are what I use for clipping small parts from sprues) I always wanted the "god hand" but they're very expensive. I use the cheaper ones for any heavy lifting, and I have a really old citadel pair that I will use for anything that's likely to damage or blunt them. The cheaper pair are actually wire cutters though, not purpose made sprue cutters so they're great for heavier duty stuff. I am sure we have the same ones, just different colour handles (mine has the black bit as well)

Honestly really like painting the super textured new models just my taste tho. As an eldar player it’s fun to be able to put your own details on it with paint, but god I want them to get an updated, the ynnari avatar definitely a fav in my army

@oliverp3545

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah let's make a new Khaine model and a new version of Cegorach's chosen, the full triumvirate of Eldar gods returned.

@James-9999

2 жыл бұрын

@@oliverp3545 ye would love to see some updated howling banshees and shining spears

@oliverp3545

2 жыл бұрын

@@James-9999 Banshees already got updated a couple years ago.

The infantry in my world eaters army is almost all rogue trader models, except for Kharn. Some of the best minis from that era. metal chipping is a pain though

Hey, those Eldar models are awesome! I take offense at you putting them in such tragic company!

My problem with GW design, mainly, is about the move to monopose minis. Not being able pose a mini imo takes away from the building experience.

there isn't an old vs new for me^^ as you said, it always depends on your taste^^ same with custom parts^^ btw, I still need the old gsc primarch :D

My Ongoing Skaven army is a mixture of very very very old models and the newer ones that didn't exist back then. I prefer the older ones they have more personality.

'Digital tools take no skill' Says brainlets who have never sculpted physically or digitally

@bloodbarage

2 жыл бұрын

I think they mean anyone can use autocad vs physical skills require people who have a disposition. Not everyone can pick up a tape of green stuff and make a Lord Kroak or great unclean one. But anyone can pick up autocad and design either miniatures. The old school hardcore hobbyist is still more skillful than those who spend hours in Cad. I 3D print and use Cad myself. Anycubic owner here.

@Edheldui

2 жыл бұрын

@@bloodbarage that's just wrong tho, digital sculpting takes the same amount of skill as traditional sculpting (on top of more knowledge than what was needed a decade ago, because sculptors have to know about the manifacturing processes they're sculpting for), it's just different tools. If anything, modern tools give waaay more options to artists compared to traditional ones.

@dug1115

2 жыл бұрын

@@Edheldui if GW sculpted each model individually in cad then yes it would be true be true that it takes the same amount of effort than the old traditional way. The problem is that GW seems to make assets that they copy and paste onto other sculpts, sometimes being more than half of the "new" sculpt, giving modern GW a homogeneous feel and less character than the old models. While it is untenable that new sculpts are sharper and of better quality then old sculpts, I'll take and old sculpt over them any day.

@herculeholmes504

2 жыл бұрын

After spending many years trying (with limited success) to learn how to sculpt in putty and clay, I am now royally fxxked by digital. I ain't got enough years left in my life for it to be worth seriously starting to learn. I should probably abandon the whole thing as a bad idea.

@ThatGuy-eu2vt

2 жыл бұрын

@@Edheldui the problem with that is that they make an asset and reuse it. they don't make a new bolter every time they just use the already sculpted one and that's ok, the problem is that they do that with whole models a bunch of the death guard HQ's and other models are just mirrored versions of models that came in dark imperium.

I almost didn’t start up painting because I found some old metal Warhammer stuff from the early 90s I picked up as a kid and tried to give it a go. Without a doubt plastic is way better for building and painting. Now I’d rather OWN a finely painted Pewter mini as opposed to plastic.

Depends how you define better but for me the 90's metals are iconic

Variety is the spice of life!

Honestly i prefer some of the older models. They were a bit simper and chunkier, but that is a good thing, since they are more robust. The latest models seem very 'wispy'. They are full of bits that look like they will break off if you so much as look at them. They feel more like something you would paint to display rather than something that is practical to play with. Another thing about the simpler older models is that they are more recognisable. I feel like the complexity of the newer models kinda makes them all blend together in a tangle of twisty, wispy bits when you see them together on terrain rather than being more distinct, ironically.