01:40 idk how he survive ruan mei break passive, that should be a perfect no hit run instead. On showcase 2, each enemies only attacking once lmao.

@cuongvohoanghuy8297

4 ай бұрын

It's because enemy has to be attacked once when having ruan mei ult active, if you use pela ult after ruan mei, the enemy will get delayed

@Kekon

4 ай бұрын

@@cuongvohoanghuy8297 Ahhh ic, thanks for the insight

@daze3400

4 ай бұрын

At 1:38 when ruan mei and Pela have enough energy , you should have save Pela ult to apply the ruanmei's flower

@sydorovich2532

4 ай бұрын

​@@cuongvohoanghuy8297 On top of that it would generate energy for acheron.

"Survive or be destroyed, there is no other choice"

@foxyrouge8775

4 ай бұрын

Literally his whole play style as a sudo-sustain😭😭

@mkmj1643

4 ай бұрын

“Destroyed, there actually is no other choice”

@aikawa-kun9871

4 ай бұрын

​@@mkmj1643 Welt: _"nah, i'd survive"_

@Helperishere

4 ай бұрын

​@@foxyrouge8775 Ruan Mei lowkey aswell so it's just a sexy combo.

@mmdda

4 ай бұрын

生存还是毁灭，你别无选择。

the techniques syncing with the music at 2:29 is chefs kiss

1:02 Welt Tech + Acheron Tech, can fill the stack is crazy

@cykrya5156

4 ай бұрын

BS passive also works

i suggest you to use welt's ult on enemy's extra action to delay their action value even further, its not that big of impact if his ult hits enemy when their turn is about to come👍 (you will take dmg obv💀)

@ianhurley6475

4 ай бұрын

From experience, every single one of these units can be one-shot by these enemies and end the run if unlucky. There's not really a choice to tank that hit for maximum delays.

@ScientistA

4 ай бұрын

@@ianhurley6475 1:51 gepard will normal punch once and slam on his second action, usually its best to blackhole after the punch for like 170 action delay instead of 30ish as you see here

@chickensky1121

4 ай бұрын

@@ianhurley6475 I have very rarely had a built character (even someone like Tingyun who is squishy as fuck) get oneshot by any single enemy attack from full HP in MoC, much less from *all* attacks. If they did, my Lynx' healing would be useless. Waiting to get the most out of Welt's delay will probably cause your team to avoid more damage in the long run, especially if the enemy normally makes multiple attacks on their turn and you Imprison them during their turn (so they won't get to make the remaining attacks at all).

"I would use Tutorial lc on my Sustain Welt... IF I HAD ONE!" -literally me and everyone who wasn't around 1.1

@jaliskarimahmad3693

4 ай бұрын

but you can use sustain welt when you e2 right? because my e2 welt using gnsw s5 and it can 2 rotation ult

@damboiThiccc

4 ай бұрын

The disadvantages of not starting Hoyo's games early🥲

@maxmanchik

4 ай бұрын

@@jaliskarimahmad3693 You don't need GN&SW to trigger his talent, it's better just to give him Resonance lc. But yeah, with Sparkle on the team and Welt's E2, it would be possible. Unfortunately, I do not have Welt's E2. He's E0

@timoteocea1046

4 ай бұрын

meanwhile there's me wanting another s5 copy of tutorial lc

@Kuhekin

4 ай бұрын

Glad I got the LC then quit, now I’m back fully ready for this

Oh, a fellow Persona enjoyer. Refined tastes you got there.

@bakailfrozen1944

4 ай бұрын

Persona overrated. Sleeper game 😴

@felipetomaz1087

4 ай бұрын

@@bakailfrozen1944 agreed. it's just boooooring

@yotadinz270

3 ай бұрын

@@felipetomaz1087 different people, different taste. and I respect ur opinion

Nice! I was telling my friend about this exact team comp this morning since he never heard of a sustain Welt before. Good to have f2p proof to support the claim.

@wetnoodlex

4 ай бұрын

It's not exactly free to play with acheron and ruan mei on team lol, but if you're going by the metric of "never swiped", people can still get eidolons of welt if they're lucky (or unlucky) with their free pulls. Welt's not a sustain unit, though. Stop calling it sustain welt, he's a cc bot/debuffer.

@derpasianboy3699

4 ай бұрын

@@wetnoodlexits sustain welt lil bro

@Ironsuaba

4 ай бұрын

​@@wetnoodlexit's technically "pseudo-sustain". He doesn't literally sustain, but his cc can be enough for certain fights to replace a sustain while being Welt. This is, obviously, helpful. For Acheron it lets you take a harmony unit while maxing out The Abyss

@Evra22

4 ай бұрын

​@@wetnoodlexNah it's f2p as long as they are e0 with 4* lightcone. And that Welt have the role of a sustain in this specific team because his slow effect and imprison is the only thing preventing team from dying

@fravalle8543

4 ай бұрын

@@wetnoodlex what a clown.. there was plenty of time to save for both ruan mei and acheron if u didnt pull for them its on u

Feels more like Ruan Mei sustains with how much her secondary break comes in clutch.

@mrdeafter

4 ай бұрын

Fr

@wylsonagustino7947

4 ай бұрын

You don't understand how slow and delay works mate

@maikcampbell

4 ай бұрын

They both contributed massively to delaying enemies

@sgnomiya.odidi1362

4 ай бұрын

​@@wylsonagustino7947slow doesnt effect enemy at all in moc, they have massive base SPD u know. But the delay one was correct, its effective on moc

@expeditor5895

4 ай бұрын

@@sgnomiya.odidi1362 more base spd = more value of slow no?

I also did the same thing on both MoC 12 versions available today. Same team comp but with Incessant Rain LC on Acheron and 160 speed on all supports (E0 Welt w/ S5 Tutorial LC, E6 Pela w/ S4 Pearls, E0 RM w/ S5 Memories of the Past LC, E0S1 Sparkle). Also tried replacing Ruan Mei with Sparkle, same 2-cycle clear but your team receives more hits. What i found was that Ruan Mei is better for sustaining but you sometimes run out of SP, while using Sparkle is more comfy SP-wise but can be harder to sustain. Anyways good video!

@jaykayy4268

4 ай бұрын

I tried to fighting sam but I always die first, how did you do it?

@phxgamingxd-hatdogedition1157

4 ай бұрын

@@jaykayy4268 Nah what I meant was the 2 versions of MoC 12 (Gepard boss 1st half older version MoC and Yanqing boss 1st half on the current version MoC). I never fight with Sam. Welt can't sustain consistently when fighting Sam. You die easily with his AoE attacks and with his passive that eats away at your health when using skill points. Maybe if you try 0-cycling you can clear it. Sam is just too hard for me. Same with Memory Zone meme MoC 12 old version (constant hits, Welt cannot keep his ult all the time to stop the team from dying). I don't wanna do 0-cycling on MoC 12 because it needs too much investment on relics and strategy (still building traces for Ruan Mei, Sparkle, Bronya, and Clara). I'm content with clearing it within 2-5 cycles per half and receive 3 stars.

@warkingiv1199

3 ай бұрын

​@@phxgamingxd-hatdogedition1157 based

Persona music? Great taste! Also will trying this comp in the future

Wow thanks you actually did my request 🤗

Beautiful work chief. Glad the word is spreading!

man using persona 4 golden bgm suit so well💯🔥

Didn't expect to find someone who uses exact same team as me and his Welt even uses exact same event LC as me lmao thanks for proving that this team works

Sidereum is pride

nice music taste

Liked for Persona 4 battle music

respect for playing "i'll face myself"

My e2s1 welt has been a very good friend to my acheron. Still need to optimize his relics. Definitely my favorite standard 5star.

I honestly thought sustain Welt was greatly exaggerated and more of a meme, but this made it look pretty viable, not super reliant on RNG. And the stats on all of the characters are actually pretty achievable, even Welt only has 60% EHR but is still keeping all the enemies in check. Damn, guess I'll be building my E1 Welt properly now.

@dante19890

2 ай бұрын

the combination of welt and ruan meis is pretty much equivilant to Fire MC sustain. It will give you a few cycles to clear before getting overwhelmed

Welt sustain for Acheron's team is pretty smart because that means we still have 1 slot left for harmony. Plus they seem like good peers in canon story

@sgnomiya.odidi1362

4 ай бұрын

Not really bro, its only works on gepard boss, because have both lightning and imaginary weakness

@thucoannguyen5447

4 ай бұрын

And you really need ruan mei for it. Slow is not that great with mob in MoC.

@TheAnaz41745

4 ай бұрын

​​@@sgnomiya.odidi1362It can work effectively as long as the enemy is weak to Imaginary, so you can land the Imprisonment debuff + delay consistently Even against Lightning resistant enemies, with both Acheron and Ruan Mei there having 45% Res Pen it won't be that much of an issue in terms of dealing damage

i need to build welt this instant, i didn’t know he prevents sanction rate from increasing this is so cool!

Aye W showcase,keep up the good work!

seeing this video made me think my account is ready for acheron + welt team since my welt got his signature LC also and I will try copy your welt build thank you !

So I'm getting Welt Yang on the 300 standard pulls selector is what I'm hearing

@dragonslayer-ld2gi

4 ай бұрын

might have to

@Stint45678

4 ай бұрын

worth it

@guilhermemonteiro437

4 ай бұрын

i've done it purely for running this team, no regrets

U should try acheron, welt, BS, RM. This team is crazy! BS can do a bit of dmg, welt can do a bit of dmg, and RM buffing all of them and do a bit of break dmg as well. This team comp manage to bring 1 cycle clear time against yanqing on my account where my account is pretty mid. Even my acheron only has 72/148 which is mid.

@lighto5083

4 ай бұрын

72/148 is good wdym lol

@expeditor5895

4 ай бұрын

@@lighto5083 yea its good unless they have the sig lc

@Lol-Lol0

4 ай бұрын

@@lighto5083 i think it's still mid tho. While her average level stats is i think 80/160 even without her signature LC while with signature should be 80/200.

@lighto5083

4 ай бұрын

@@Lol-Lol0 that's not average at all lmao, 80/160 is insane level relics, average would be something like 50/130 with anything above that being good

@Noaxid

4 ай бұрын

@@lighto5083 i'm at 75/ 195 and i still feels like it can be better , maybe because i don't have her set for now , it's full random piece because i don't get better for her set since 1 month ago .

Ahh yes, persona battle theme🔊🔊🔊

Now THIS is what I’m talking about!! Very good video and very good for f2p!! 👍

Bro want fight Reaper😂😂😂

It kinda looks like the real highlight is Ruan Mei prolonging the breaks

I think Welt "sustain" would be much more relevant in the future after Jiaoqiu (future nihility character) release.

Amazing showcase! If you are lacking damage or/ and dont have ruan mei, use gepard with mercant lightcone, it will buy you 1-3 damage turns + more debuffs, if someone want this info :3 (The only 4 star LC that i dont have fk T-T)

@littlelw319

4 ай бұрын

Thing is witn Welt, Gep(or any shielder) with merchant LC will lost their value due to enemy can't act as often

@Kspice9000

4 ай бұрын

​@@littlelw319true e0 makes a trade. Get 1 stack with his skill now or get from enemy hit. However e2 slows enemy after freeze falls off. Fixing that dilemma.

@littlelw319

4 ай бұрын

@@Kspice9000 so E2 Welt essentially equate to 2 debuffs on ult/weakness break. that's pretty neat.

Great idea! Is SW better then Pela in this team? I have e0 SW and e3 Pela

@tooru5244

4 ай бұрын

Hard to say, SW should be better than Pela but Pela has AoE def shred and buff dispel, but from the look of it i think SW will be better (not by large margin though)

@carinalaurel2571

4 ай бұрын

Depend on what focus, if u focus on positive sp and need to generate debuff then SW is better but if u focus on team def red pela is better or u can use both

@zeer7676

4 ай бұрын

You use both in the same team unless u have e2 acheron then either pela or sw depending on the situation

@Jdjdjdjdjdjkehejehebehh

4 ай бұрын

@@zeer7676 I'm going to use team Welt as sustain, Pela/Sw, Ruan Mei and Acheron

Everyday we get closer and closer to welt sustain domination

thx to this video help me full start f12 lol, swapped out gallag with welt

Soundtracks from P5? 😁 I love the P5 and strikers soundtrack.

I forgot to update my ruan mei 4set... i always wanted to recreate sustain welt ever since ❤

This is my dream team I just need Welt all his gears are ready.

anyone here familiar with the Drakengard games? Her ult form reminds me of Zero.

Wouldn't Energy Recharge rope be better for sustain Welt? You lose some of his personal damage but in exchange he does his sustain role even better

@Kspice9000

4 ай бұрын

Yup.

yea really good team comp, but the thing is you’ll have to use Ruan Mei for that delay action w weakness break efficiency, any options else will hardly be viable for this team comp to work properly.

I was using Welt sustain with wind set for a long time. May farm the new sets for him

What's the good stats and substats for ruan mei? Since you didnt show it on this video

I should build my welt... He's been benched ever since i got him back in 1.2 lol

Finally got to pity for standard and got freaking yanqing e2 and lost e2 acheron to gepard e2. Hoyo really feels like they one side the rng.

I really wanna build this team well but man Im gonna be stuck in that relic domain for years with my luck so far x.x

Raiden Mei, Velt Yang, little dr. Mei, dr. Mei

Acheron Sparkle pela and welt is just a op F2P Comb!!

I am really impressed that this is a f2p friendly team, cuz you only need the characters to achieve this result

The rolls you got for Acheron's relics are really nice. I'm jelly.

This is great for bringing in a harmony but imo having a sustain with trend is much better and to keep your broken harmony for the other team

@Kekon

4 ай бұрын

Its just a nice option to play Acheron

@tooru5244

4 ай бұрын

We already got so many good harmony unit so it's not an issue. If you already have all 3 5* harmony, you can run Ruan Mei on Acheron team and Bronya + Sparkle on other team.

Me with SW+Pela+Sparkle sustain (they dead before they get to move)

I think it's a good thing to note that the reason those Aurumaton guys don't get Sanction charges is because they're imprisoned

The supports are giga Chad 🗿

Man i thought i would rock with this team comp when Acheron comes, turns out Nihility LC's are allergic to me, and the fact I missed out on Tutorial LC didn't help

Man, I just realize that Welt entanglement can prevent aurumaton buff countdown 😂

Put crit dmg body piece on Old man and that's what he will do , I've been going with a hybrid build of ehr,break and crits

Lore accurate team.

Lowkey glad i pulled e1 welt within the 1st 55 warps in standard banner now. Slap my e0s1 acheron and e6 pela on the team. Boom 💥

@dan_963_

4 ай бұрын

almost same here got welt in standard banner. bur never used or build him. then on acheron banner I failed 50/50 and got welt E2 + e0s1 Acheron. ...and the rest is history :D

Ik this is Welt sustain vid but, Which one is better to have as sustain Luocha or Fuxuan? I'm short on jades so at least having one of them would mean something to me

@kaze3803

4 ай бұрын

Fuxuan of course

@ouroboros6738

4 ай бұрын

@@kaze3803 alright that's the 6 out of 10 to Fuxuan the rest to Luocha. Thanks a lot champ

@dhtytreal770

4 ай бұрын

Overall, fu xuan offers the most, and loucha already got powercrepet, except in a few scenarios where he has a advantage(he can remove buffs from enemies, so the reviving and healing enemies are literally a joke with him*. A better comparison would be aventurine vs du xuan(both preservation), it would depend on what teams you have, quantum and imaginary is pretty obvius(prefer their repective elements), but for the others, it realy depends, fu xuan might be overall better for more sustain(especialy SU) and offer more stable dmg(gives crit rate), but... on the other hand, aventurine is also not short on defense(huge shield for basically every action), has a decent amount of FU dmg even at E0, and can possibly give higher single targeted dmg(ult), so you have to chosse between a betting safer or betting all in between the two

I usually already run this but with geppie instead of rm... I will give this a try tho

is welt sustain need using ruai mei ? can i swap it with sparkle so it can have consistent ult from welt? because i have e2 welt with good stat overall 60cr, 100cdm, 60% eff hitrate and using gnsw

@thucoannguyen5447

4 ай бұрын

You need ruan mei, slow is not that great in MoC.

@jaliskarimahmad3693

4 ай бұрын

@@thucoannguyen5447 ahh i see, thank you for your advice

@Kyoo1

4 ай бұрын

@@jaliskarimahmad3693 You dont need ruan mei, you can use something like pela, welt sustain, bronya, and acheron and reliably keep afloat in clearing MoC 10-12. Understanding when to use welts ult is a big factor that makes welt sustain viable

ur relic rolls are crazy

howd you get so lucky with the welt imprisons how many times did you try

Ruan MEI must have for this.

How have they not made an alternative for Tutorial lightcone yet, it’s too insane to leave limited.

Whats a sustain welt. I don't understand..full speed wlt is that it? With enough EHR? Is he better than pela e4?

@Purpletrident

4 ай бұрын

Imprison, thus enemies hardly ever get a chance to attack, so everyone survives

I'd be damned if this team could clear the eventual Aventurine MoC

what if you don't have Ruan Mei 😢

Welt is the only Standard banner unit I don’t have. Hoping I can get him someday. I chose Clara for the free unit when I hit 300 pulls 🫤 big regret.

@thelimz1588

4 ай бұрын

U wont regret it after aventurine and robin out, topaz-clara-avent-robin will be nice team as well

@Noaxid

4 ай бұрын

Clara is still nice for pure fiction ( even if himeko + kuru kuru is best combo ) mine help me a lot for my 2nd team because i don't have argenti !

1:58 why did acheron apply a crimson knot stack to gepard? Her skill was aimed at the robot so the robot should've gotten 1 crimson knot stack, but gepard got it instead

@Kspice9000

4 ай бұрын

It's always applied to enemy with highest stacks when archeon uses skill.

Finally a build thats relatable

I mean it helps that Ruan Mei and Yomi are there tho…they make it possible 😅

Anyone explains how welt is sustaining the team?

@saintneos4557

4 ай бұрын

It's a 'pseudo-sustain', essentially, with 'sustain' being jokingly called the abuse of his delay mechanic. Essentially, if the enemy can't act, they can't damage your characters, therefore he's 'sustaining' :3

Am I the only guy that disables the 2x just to enjoy Acheron's ultimate at normal speed?

Uh... how did Mei immediately recover three charges after her Ulti? 1:26

is atk boots recommended over speed boots on a standard acheron team without sparkle or welt sustain?

@Kekon

4 ай бұрын

Yes especially E0 S0

@fluffymuffin9089

4 ай бұрын

For Acheron yes

@reqonizee

4 ай бұрын

okay ty!!

@dariel299

4 ай бұрын

speed boots for her is a waste tbh, whether its e0 or e2 as u rely on her ults anyways, just go all out attack

@Noaxid

4 ай бұрын

@@dariel299 yeah i tried it with speed over attack and it doesn't feel better with speed boots , it feels worse for me , my team with acheron pela silverwolf fu xuan work better without speed boots . ( have her lc tho)

the fact that the acheron team doesnt need abundance/preservation because the they die so fast

Debit(card) or Credit(card) there is no other choice....

Team meis!

Welt sustain I think will be debuff playstyle oriented (focusing in speed, ehr and energy). 😂 Nice strategy

Do you think silverwolf or pela is better in this team?

@kazerage

4 ай бұрын

i think pela is better for AoE scenario Context

@xseventyone5336

4 ай бұрын

Pela is better with resolution

@Kekon

4 ай бұрын

its situational, you can bring both Pela for AOE but Resolution is needed SW for single target no Resolution needed, weakness manipulation and more consistent debuff from normal atk

Double black holes lmao

i know this soundtrack... freddy f*ckboy...

should you have saved welt's ultimate for second phase?

Can you play in this team instead of Ruan Mei with Robin?

Who can I replace Ruan Mai with?

What if i run acheron with welt's signature lc?

Nice, I only need welt.

Im now regretting my decision not building my welt despite having his LC too

how could you apply imprison at the start of battle with just 60% EHR?? Mine is at 100% but never been able to hit the robot with imprison. How many times you restart?

@Kekon

4 ай бұрын

I dont know, i always apply imprison every time

@bang-naim

4 ай бұрын

Welt technique was bugged I think

@retrofying4761

4 ай бұрын

it was fixed when they sent the himeko bug fix mail

@3bood_lazy921

4 ай бұрын

Technical issues 😂

@Bos_Meong

4 ай бұрын

@@retrofying4761 ah i see. So it was bug. No wonder it doesn't make any sense lol. Can confirm it works now. This arumatron robot is really annoying, need jingliu or welt technique to make it shut up lol.

Sustain Welt. Why did you skip his extended stats😭. I need to know his effect hit rate

I wish i have Mei

How about against sam?😊

I have welt and his LC should I build him ? I don’t really know what he does and I have all the characters in the video

@Kspice9000

4 ай бұрын

Read his traces and kit....

Using loop s5 is stronger then sig on Acheron if you have welt! Try that instead

@munkit99

4 ай бұрын

No its not. It is already doing lesser raw damage than the sig. And that is also without taking into consideration the extra stacks you're getting per skill for more ult usage over the course of battle. The gap widens even more when you factor in any action advance (Sparkle/Bronya).

Can you do one against Sam as well?

Im using acherons lc on welt rn

is welts signature LC preferred for this playstyle or should i pick the 4 star one that is used here?

@0neleft69

4 ай бұрын

Tutorial allows 3T SP positive/2T SP negative rotations, so for Acheron it's essential. But if you don't have E2 on Welt, I think it's more profitable to give it to Pela for 2T, and make Welt more of a subDPS with signature and on 140+ speed

@Derdaida

4 ай бұрын

Thanks! I gonna try it out, only have him on E0 sadly ​@@0neleft69