Welding Fixture Table Shoot-Out: DIY vs PRO

Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары

I "needed" a weld fixture table and ended up with two! The first one is a complete DIY and the second is a CertiFlat knock-off. If you've ever wondered if you should build or buy a fixture table...this is your video.
Result - DIY around 20 thou max out from flat. PRO - Can't measure it...it's FLAT.
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  • @todayletsbuild2153
    @todayletsbuild21535 ай бұрын

    Great video and great job. I just finished my table over the holidays. Not sure how we lived without these great tools.

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    5 ай бұрын

    Thanks - I'm 100% with you. I would struggle to go back to working without a table. So much harder than it needs to be.

  • @paullatour7012
    @paullatour70123 жыл бұрын

    A future project for our shop. Getting a lot of ideas from this video. Can’t wait to see how you put it to use.

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    Next video I make a ton of fixtures for the table. It's really a tremendously useful tool - more useful than I thought.

  • @SimonCoates
    @SimonCoates2 жыл бұрын

    I'm about to build a small welding table and for my needs your own design table is ideal. Thanks for the walkthrough 👍

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @MegaCountach
    @MegaCountach3 жыл бұрын

    Nice stuff Throttle, glad to see you back, cheers, Doug

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks - It's been a brutal past 6 weeks. Hardly a moment away from work to get some garage therapy.

  • @fredygump5578
    @fredygump55783 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing. This gives me ideas for the work table I need to make...it won't actually be a welding table, but it needs to be as flat as possible. The serious welding table will have to wait until I build a new garage.

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @TheAngel207
    @TheAngel2073 жыл бұрын

    Gosh, was worried about not seeing new videos for a while, glad you're safe.

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    All good...just going like crazy at work.

  • @garymyers4496
    @garymyers4496 Жыл бұрын

    You got a USA fan.Im just getting in to welding.I have fun watching for tips and tricks.Thanks for your video .

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    Жыл бұрын

    Awesome! Thank you!

  • @gayshelley2677
    @gayshelley26773 жыл бұрын

    Great fab work Craig. 5 degrees in your workshop and you are still wearing a short sleeve shirt. Will send you some pics of my re-furbished composite shop. Thanks Ian in G.B

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    You get used to it. As I'm working the temperature comes up.

  • @garybrown9719
    @garybrown97192 жыл бұрын

    I picked up some plates from the scrap yard with holes 24"×40"×1" Now i need legs And a base for the playes Headed by to the scrap yard

  • @oswelds
    @oswelds6 ай бұрын

    Very enjoyable channel, subscribed!

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    6 ай бұрын

    Awesome, thank you!

  • @rudyrivera5256
    @rudyrivera52562 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing! Good video and info!! 🤙🏻

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @KUGW
    @KUGW3 жыл бұрын

    Cool Channel always cool to see other folks from Canada on KZread....

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Someone's gotta plug Timmies and the art of working when you can't feel your fingers.

  • @KUGW

    @KUGW

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ThrottleStopGarage thats funny I just got in from my garage making KZread videos and my fingers are numb lol

  • @michaelsimpson9779
    @michaelsimpson9779 Жыл бұрын

    Nice work

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Cheers!

  • @ryanzenzen9088
    @ryanzenzen90883 жыл бұрын

    I just built one two weeks ago. I used a 1" thick steel sheet and bought a $40 bit for a mag drill. Took a while, but some patients and drilling lube, and after the 100 holes I drilled the bit is still as good as new.

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    I wish I had a mag drill...I already get complaints about my "DIY" involving "tools" LOL. I can see the advantage of the thicker plate when using my clamps etc.

  • @ryanzenzen9088

    @ryanzenzen9088

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ThrottleStopGarage I was lucky enough to be able to borrow a mag drill. I have to admit that purchasing a 1" thick sheet of steel doesn't mean that you get a 'flat' sheet of steel. The piece I got has 0.025 crown in the center.

  • @todayletsbuild2153

    @todayletsbuild2153

    5 ай бұрын

    I just finally finished my table. I use the annular cutters from the mag drill in my drill press. Works very well.

  • @RR3EURO
    @RR3EURO3 жыл бұрын

    Personally like the home made one. No offense to the CertiFlat table, they are cool but I really liked yours.

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    The lower table will get more use I think. Lighter to move around. I'll pull out the big one when I need the extra space or want two planes.

  • @shadybot6787
    @shadybot67873 жыл бұрын

    I would like to suggest some videos on how you mount the CF parts to your car. Great Channel!

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    Coming - time is short and you're watching in real time. Installing and finishing these panels is coming in a few months.

  • @Ilsabug1
    @Ilsabug13 жыл бұрын

    Nice vid. Found that site. Premade would save allot on drilling holes.

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes - for sure. The pro built table took 1/2 the time to build.

  • @joell439
    @joell4393 жыл бұрын

    👍👍😎👍👍. Always good times at TSG .......

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @camperlab6546
    @camperlab65463 жыл бұрын

    Nice ta see ya!

  • @TWX1138
    @TWX11383 жыл бұрын

    Every time you go into voiceover mode I'm reminded of actor Steve Smith on the, "Adventures with Bill," segments of _The Red Green Show._

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    High praise indeed.

  • @TWX1138

    @TWX1138

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ThrottleStopGarage Well fortunately you suffer many fewer calamities than they would.

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TWX1138 I really, really, really want to sign off each video with "Keep your stick on the ice."

  • @TWX1138

    @TWX1138

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ThrottleStopGarage You will find no objection here.

  • @davidevans8826
    @davidevans88263 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting which one will you use more ?nice video👍

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    I can see the little table getting more use. It's easier to move.

  • @91rss
    @91rss2 жыл бұрын

    where do you get the fixture pins from etc for it,, wondering what size holes they are and how close can a laser get or do you have to final ream each hole? thx

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    2 жыл бұрын

    I designed the table. The common pattern is 5/8" diameter (16 mm) on a 50 mm regular spacing. The laser cut table did not require further reaming. The plasma cut table for sure did require that further step.

  • @melgross
    @melgross7 ай бұрын

    Great!

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    7 ай бұрын

    Glad it was helpful.

  • @ferrariguy8278
    @ferrariguy82783 жыл бұрын

    Any general suggestions on where to go hunting for some of the used machinist tools like you've acquired? Or how to begin looking?/right people to know?

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    eBay works. That's where I got these large blocks. Most of my machinist tools are used.

  • @miguelcastaneda7236

    @miguelcastaneda7236

    3 жыл бұрын

    alot of us old guys are retireing but there are woodworker swapmeet and have been finding guys there selling machinist tools also check ...toolswapusa.com one in so .calf is soon to be happening again...and there are others midwest and back east

  • @CTXSLPR
    @CTXSLPR3 жыл бұрын

    Craig, thanks for helping me both learn many new tricks AND get moving again on my ‘64 Riviera pro touring project with that “bit of time every day” plan. Also admitting that while I can do wiring it’s an convienent excuse to not go work on the car when that’s on tap. Side note, as a fellow scientist, which discipline are you in?

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great news...I've been putting in 70 hour weeks for the past few months and am pretty exhausted. Getting some boring design work when I can - I try to never stop. I'm putting together another episode to drop this week. My area of research is remote sensing physics.

  • @CTXSLPR

    @CTXSLPR

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm a medical physicist by degree but I work for a national security laboratory doing stuff with explosives now. Like telling kids when they ask me how do they get to blow things up for a living... Get good at Math!

  • @haraldolsen5724
    @haraldolsen5724 Жыл бұрын

    Great to see, what is the thickness of the plate you got from the plasma cutters? 6mm?

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes - 6 mm. I'd consider going to 10 mm if weight wasn't an issue.

  • @TheOriginalSinnerman
    @TheOriginalSinnerman2 жыл бұрын

    That’s odd… I got a certiflat table and I’m in Vancouver BC. But that was in 2019, maybe they’ve changed their policy? They even gave me a very good shipping quote on it.

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    2 жыл бұрын

    2019...a very different time.

  • @dankskids6863
    @dankskids68632 жыл бұрын

    It's nice to know that AvE has a less ambiguous brother.

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    2 жыл бұрын

    LOL...he's a national treasure.

  • @dankskids6863

    @dankskids6863

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ThrottleStopGarage so I am right lol. And yes he is.

  • @b4runner25
    @b4runner252 жыл бұрын

    Does your brother have more of these? Where abouts in Canada are you? It does suck living in Canada sometimes for all this stuff. It's always a struggle to get stuff. Especially when you see all that is available in the states for cheap. Nice job on the table btw.. looks great

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Bryan - he doesn't...this one was kicking around his shop after he made a run. I'm in Alberta and he's in Manitoba. The struggle is real - many think we're playing it up, but honestly - the number of times I get an online shopping cart loaded and just walk away when the shipping comes up - or companies like Send-Cut-Send (who are trying...) look like the answer to my problems and won't ship to Canada. Local industry with water-jets, laser etc. would really rather not deal with the public. I'm thinking about this as a business when I retire - but maybe it's better by then. My front end has been sitting for over 4 months waiting for the custom parts to get cut/machined. Simple stuff - if I only had the tools/space.

  • @b4runner25

    @b4runner25

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ThrottleStopGarage ya I hear ya.. I often look at the shipping as well and think..." This is more than the part costs and is worth". The other reason I wouldn't buy something is when they only offer UPS shipping. UPS is a rip off every time and I have been burned too many times with brokerage fees. Some places are getting better and offering flat rates which is awesome. And other places just suck and wont ship to us.. Not sure why as all the issues are usually experienced by us and not them. It was nice when I was in university in Windsor so I would order to the states and take the 10mims drive across the border. I cant do that now. A cnc plasma table is gonna be my next purchase if I can find a nice used hobby one. I would love a waterjet but I dont want to take out a second mortgage on the house lol. Seems like you are doing alright with what you have. I just recently picked up a mill and lathe and it comes in so handy. Dont know where I would be without them. Still lots of stuff I have to get done elsewhere though. I was prepping for a retirement plan as well....or perhaps a side job. I just find garage and fabricating time so relaxing.

  • @iocifiocif2789
    @iocifiocif27892 жыл бұрын

    Hello, I would like your help, welding tables that have holes on the plate from which specific metal is the plate of the table? thank you very much

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's just mild steel. 6 mm or 1/4" thick.

  • @iocifiocif2789

    @iocifiocif2789

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ThrottleStopGarage what is it that makes the plate on the welding tables not stick on what the electrolyte comes out?

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@iocifiocif2789 I spray mine with anti spatter.

  • @GoGoGarage
    @GoGoGarage3 жыл бұрын

    Nice video, what is the cost comparison?

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    The home built table was $200 all in. The pro version is about 3 times that cost.

  • @davidcraft4909
    @davidcraft49092 жыл бұрын

    Hey summit racing sells certiflat tables. maybe they will ship to Canada. Either way thank for the video.

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nope - I tried that trick. Eastwood as well. No dice.

  • @iocifiocif2789
    @iocifiocif2789 Жыл бұрын

    Hello, I want to make a purchase and I would like your help....which is better, the milling drill or the pillar drill? I want it more for holes, but I would like it for everything, etc... some people told me the milling drill is not suitable for holes because there is a chance of damage, is that true? What's your advice? Thank you very much...

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    Жыл бұрын

    Interesting question. If I had to do it again, I'd buy a Mill/drill rather than the pillar drill I have. They're more flexible and the way the bearings work - are able to handle lateral loads. For this table - doing it the way I did worked fine.

  • @dbourdea
    @dbourdea2 жыл бұрын

    how did you do you sit stand welding table? Can you provide some details. I'm very interested in making a sit stand welding station.

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was given a motorized lift table and I have attached my tables to the top of it.

  • @dbourdea

    @dbourdea

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ThrottleStopGarage Would you mind sharing the brand of the motorized lift table, if there is one. I'm currently contemplating converting a sit/stand station (for computers) into a sit / stand welding station. I decided to get a manual crank lift station that I can use a drill with the cycle it up and down. I thought that the welder might cause issues with the electronics of a traditional electric lift sit/stand desk. Your thoughts? thanks, David Bourdeau

  • @jasonkimmel3061
    @jasonkimmel30612 жыл бұрын

    So does your Canadian buddy ship to the US?

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    2 жыл бұрын

    He's not making them anymore. You've got options.

  • @briansexsmith
    @briansexsmith3 жыл бұрын

    They make ball pins that would allow you to pin one to the other... Maybe you already thought of that and will be in the next episode

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    I went another way...not as fast, but I've got time.

  • @jwiereng
    @jwiereng Жыл бұрын

    I got a laser guy, would I still need to drill and ream?

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    Жыл бұрын

    Nope. You should be fine. My laser cut table was fine...my plasma cut table needed the work.

  • @jwiereng

    @jwiereng

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ThrottleStopGarage Do you think I need to specify an an oversized hole to the laser guy? or is 5/8 good enough, - Don't want to have a interference fit, the clamp pegs need a little wiggle room to they cock over and bind

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jwiereng No need for that - just 5/8" and let them do their work.

  • @cjbiggar240
    @cjbiggar2403 жыл бұрын

    Can you maybe set me up with your buddy who sent you that cirtaflat type table I would love to buy one from him like a 4 by 6 footfixture table

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sorry, my brother just had one in the shop. No interest in selling them now.

  • @denttech2515
    @denttech25155 ай бұрын

    5/8" and 16mm are not the same size. Nearly everyone says this, but it's wrong. 25.4 x .625 = 15.875mm. When precision is needed, they are not at all the same

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    5 ай бұрын

    Indeed - no question. Approximations in welding are a bad habit.

  • @GFPRACING
    @GFPRACING3 жыл бұрын

    what would your brother sell his table for

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    He doesn't have anymore and isn't planning on producing more. Plans are for sale on eBay.

  • @jimallen199
    @jimallen1993 жыл бұрын

    I'm in Australia & very rarely buy anything from USA because the shipping cost are just a ripoff.

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    I can almost see the USA and have the same story.

  • @matiasrivero1964
    @matiasrivero1964 Жыл бұрын

    What thickness//?/

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    Жыл бұрын

    6 mm or 1/4" for both tables.

  • @MrDangerous64
    @MrDangerous64 Жыл бұрын

    Is your brother still having his tables made? I would rather support a little manufacturer than ceriflat anyway. Shipping to and from Canada to the US is allowed, certiflat just chose not to (yes, I'm south of the border)

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    Жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately he's got more work than his company can handle and is no longer having these tables made. I buy USA all the time - happy to support a healthy economy.

  • @geobrown9413
    @geobrown94132 жыл бұрын

    Think you were complaining about $9 5/8" stripper bolts...........Grainger (CDA) has them on clearance for 69 cents ea. Check out all the other clearance items and cheap shipping too!

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    2 жыл бұрын

    We haven't had a Grainger in a couple of years! I just hate single pack bolts.

  • @geobrown9413

    @geobrown9413

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ThrottleStopGarage Go on line, you can see the clearance items across the country. Have had multiple shipments from across the country for $10 on a single order. From Mt. Pearl N.L. to Burnaby and parts in between.

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@geobrown9413 Will do - thanks.

  • @geobrown9413

    @geobrown9413

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ThrottleStopGarage In addition to the fasteners, etc. look at the med. gray spray paint for $1.50.......good and U.S. made. So many bargains.

  • @miguelcastaneda7236
    @miguelcastaneda72363 жыл бұрын

    if the cost of that block is too much my little machine shop has a small angle plate that would work for like 35,bucks..3" × 3 "1/2× 4 "1/2 its withen .0005 flat n square

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nice. It's not so much the cost of the thing...I can't buy it. Canadian's are used to seeing "not available in Canada" or "won't ship to Canada. " on a lot of things. These tables are one of those things.

  • @saonbunames8970
    @saonbunames89703 жыл бұрын

    There is samebody made something like mine. Or i make that thing like your's.😁

  • @ypaulbrown
    @ypaulbrown2 жыл бұрын

    it is Spatter, not Splatter...Splatter is what you get in the Commode

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    2 жыл бұрын

    Looks the same on the finish part. I know...it's hard to keep it all straight when your talking to yourself in the garage. LOL.

  • @ypaulbrown

    @ypaulbrown

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ThrottleStopGarage I understand, been doing some KZread videos my self lately, great job......cheers from Central Florida, Paul , looking forward to viewing more of your work.......

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ypaulbrown Thanks! Have fun with the videos.

  • @alanmony1582
    @alanmony15823 жыл бұрын

    Craig, I'm not going to tell you you did it wrong because now I realize I did mine wrong. Do you really have to think of everything?

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    Awe - come on Alan...I've got no idea what I did right. LOL.

  • @fredio54
    @fredio543 жыл бұрын

    How does one find your brother's DXF files, or is it private to avoid being sued from south of the border? :-D

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    Check ebay - there are files there you can buy.

  • @fredio54

    @fredio54

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ThrottleStopGarage I was hoping for "check github" :-D I'll likely do that first, and crack open FreeCAD second, it's just the way I am :-D

  • @fredio54

    @fredio54

    3 жыл бұрын

    GitHub: No. Ebay: Cheap. From me to you: Thanks :-)

  • @ferrariguy8278

    @ferrariguy8278

    3 жыл бұрын

    Check out GrabCad as well. There are MANY there with the cad files (which can be turned into DFX files w/ the right software if not there... like Fusion 360 and a hobby license)

  • @EnlightenedSavage
    @EnlightenedSavage Жыл бұрын

    I'll buy the extra table from your brother. Ha.

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    Жыл бұрын

    LOL - I'm 100% sure he's done selling these. The one I got was the last.

  • @cuescues1
    @cuescues12 жыл бұрын

    I'm offended by your metric numbers. Just sayin'.

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    2 жыл бұрын

    Seriously?

  • @fredbecker607

    @fredbecker607

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@ThrottleStopGarage we still use the serious measurements down south. LOL... just kidding

  • @markkoons7488
    @markkoons74882 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, what's all this BS at the borders about, anyway? Here in Wyoming we ordered a pre-cut cedar greenhouse kit out of BC. Why, for crying out loud, you'd think we'd ordered grenade launchers out of Cuba. Buncha crap, neighbor.

  • @ThrottleStopGarage

    @ThrottleStopGarage

    2 жыл бұрын

    I know - you'd think we shared the same continent and all lived as close to the border as possible. I'm 40 minutes from the boarder - free shipping to the boarder, only $180 to my house? Makes you believe someone's getting ripped off.

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